Hold on to your butts.
Also bump.
didn't know that they released Magni novel.
Thanks for dumping anon.
Shit, I need prepatch soon, the wait is killing me.
>>343295016
Isn't that almost 1 month away though ?
Out of all the bullshit they're pushing for legion, the has me the most excited. I don't even play a dwarf
It'll probably be brushed over in game though.
LEGION HYPE HPYEh Ypehpyehoyeaspohnsoignoiengonseg
>>343295106
They'll probably annoucne it in the PvP Q&A today (season end), it'll probably be the 19th.
>>343295203
HAHAHAHA TIME FOR OLD GOD SHENANIGANS AND TITAN EGGS.
God damn it Metzen
AN ANCIENT EVIL
>>343295203
>invite the nigger dwarves and indian dwarves to stay in your city
>they now claim it's theirs as much as it's yours
I can't help but feel that it's a subtle critique of Europe's leaders
>>343295409
Except they've actually contributed to society and improved Iron forget. The Dark Irons have done more for the Alliance post-cataclysm than even the Bronzebeards
Why were garrisons bad?
>>343295409
Those Dwarves built Ironforge together. It was after a bloody civil war the Bronzebeards kicked everyone out.
>>343295409
please don't ruin and derail this thread. I want my free read of this shit before this gets archived.
as said
>>343295496
>>343295515
Fin.
>>343295593
go back to tumblr
I wonder what this comic would have been like if that one guy hadn't reminded blizzard that Falstad was still alive.
>>343295620
Moira a cute !
A cute !
>>343295620
>apologizes to a race traitor and a nation traitor
Why is Magni such a cuck?
>>343295620
Are they going to release more of these ??
>>343295642
You clearly tried to derail the thread when you know nothing about the lore. go back to the degenerate hole you came from senpai.
>>343295620
Man, I wish a dwarf made of rock and beholden to a nebulous higher power was my dad ;_;
>>343294479
>dat shit art
just
>>343295781
Is the "higher power" Therazane?
>>343295767
No clue. I'm guessing they might have a few of these "prologue" type of things, but no more Magni I'd also guess.
>>343295828
The fuck you talking about? This art is pretty good. It's at least heaps better than the old WoW comics.
>>343295734
Because he's never been as based as Muradin.
>>343295906
>Is the "higher power" Therazane?
No, it's Azeroth herself, the nascent Titan, the world-soul of the planet.
>>343295938
looks like some tumblr web comic is this shit for free?
>>343295704
>>343295828
Moira a big-eyed animu!
ANIMU!
>>343296017
Beat me to it
All female dwarves should have nice big sideburns in my opinion.
>>343295938
Just because the old comics were pure asshole doesn't make this art good. This art is shit, and lazy as hell. There's no detail.
Look at the first panel in >>343295620
She literally doesn't have a fucking face.
Okay? So Magni woke up and told them about the demons. Why did we need a comic for this?
wow
>warcraft manga
noice
>>343296160
I think it's cool to have other kinds of media to complement the game.
>>343295938
Do you actually believe what you're saying?
>>343296267
>>343296267
I think your opinion is shit and you're a retard
>>343296160
To produce
H Y P E
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>>343296017
They did a shitload of retconning with Chronicles and there's sure to be more to come, but so far the new, definitive lore is okay, it's more wholesome than all the contradictory convoluted mess we had earlier.
I'm just afraid they're going to ruin it all because some of the writers apparently have a huge hard-on for Illidan and are turning him into the hero of destiny who will save us all in the most cringy way possible.
>>343296309
Ebin :--DD
>>343296087
It's stylized, nigger.
Here's some art from a universally praised comic made and published by Marvel for comparison.
>>343296160
They're running out of characters to kill and every new one (read : yrel) is utter shit. How's Metzen not fired yet?
>>343296087
Not everything is fucking Sandman.
When are we getting that new video series like the Warlords one for WoD?
>>343296351
>Naaru hype Illidan up as some big hero of the light
>End of expansion Maiev just outright kills him and tells off the Naaru for being retarded
>Proceed to have Maiev become champion of light
One can hope...
>>343295409
How long until we can have stories where different factions interact again without it being linked to sandniggers coming to europe?
>got 5 chars at 100
>lore master achievement
>play on an rp server
>never read a single quest
how do i get into lore?
>60 days till Legion
>Prepatch still on PTR
>Beta is still up
Uh oh
>>343297951
Don't really need to, WoW lore is trash
>>343296351
>I'm just afraid they're going to ruin it all because some of the writers apparently have a huge hard-on for Illidan and are turning him into the hero of destiny who will save us all in the most cringy way possible.
That's the problem with WoW's writing team, they're split up too much. Just like in cata when they tried to make garrosh grow into a leader worthy of the horde but the other half just wrote him into orc hitler at the same time.
>>343294479
Daily reminder Blackrock Depths genocide never happened.
>>343298438
Pretty sure it did but it got played off as if Thaurissan was already going mad, and Moira had it done.
>>343295620
>he doesn't bash in her skull for betraying the clan, before plunging Ironforge into another glorious civil war
what a cuck
DK is going full edgelord in Legion and I'm loving it, no shame.
Did they give a date yet when the pre-expansion patch is rolling out?
>>343299874
>Paladins all sitting around in Light's Hope jerking each other off by the holy light
>KNOCK KNOCK IT'S KNUCKLES
>WE'RE HERE FOR TIRION
Man I wish we'd got him. It's a shame DKs just go in there to fail.
>>343294479
THICC
>>343295620
>using "ye" as a singular
>>343301167
It was obviosu from the start it'd be Darion.
The only thing that disappoints me about the campaign and attacking LHC is Darion not wanting to, and our character commanding him to. Would've been nice if there was at least the illusion of choice, rather than making the player character Bolvar's bitch 100%.
>>343302026
it's their accent, they're not literally saying ye you autist
>>343302215
Its a Scottish accent. They say 'ya' when saying 'you'. Ye is used as a plural in the British Isles, including Scotland.
I wonder if this'll survive beta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMsCdc3OBG8
>>343299874
>Be warlock
>Go on an adventure for the Scepter of Sargeras
>Kill a small group of shadow council members
>Take their shit and take their place
>Meet up with others
>They don't even give a fuck
>Some guy getting sucked into a avoid
>Knock him in to the abyss as he begs for help
>Cuck some orc out of a promotion
>Gul'dan-senpai notices me
>He just wants me to be his disciple and is proud that I finally am seeing the (fel)light
>Trusts me with opening portals for demons to march over the broken isles and conquer it
>Open portals of that summon fel fire storms instead
>>343294832
>hah,I was just pretending to be trapped there
>I just needed a nap
>now that my daugher is trying to ruin my country i'll go back to ruling
>>343302392
I'd have a meltdown too if I was killed and revived like 3 times then had to do errands for the guy who did it.
Legion already has the prettiest WoW zone so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlXJJoXW2qM
>>343296351
> some of the writers
>>343302392
>when the bleeping starts
But seriously I doubt they'd be based enough to leave it in. I don't recall any other swearing like that, they tend to come up with euphemisms instead.
>>343303530
The only swearing I recall in WoW are Garrosh calling Sylvanas a bitch, and the one orc exclaiming "Thrall's balls!"
>>343302437
I have to say, even if the expansion is shit the class quests are fucking amazing.
>>343302392
>Wildstar does this and everyone says its goofy and immature
>WoW does it and its praised
>>343303727
>WoW has one NPC over 11 years of content that swears at you if you click him too much
>Wildstar has F**KIN EPIC BADASS CUPCAKE YOU JUST F**KING OWNED THOSE KOOKY BAZINGA RATS WITH YOUR F**KING BADASS EPIC SKILLS, CUPCAKE every 5 minutes
>Some anon on 4chan tries to pretend they are the same
>>343295620
Moira staying as an Alliance member albeit with more sinister undertones rather than the overdone cliché of "haha I was only biding my time and betray you all" is an infinitely good thing.
>>343303727
Theres a difference between putting it on one NPC as an easter egg where you have to click him a dozen times and having every single quest NPC yell at you like Torgue from Borderlands.
So what is the thing that has been consistently excellent through every expansion and why is it quest text?
Any reason to sub before the expansion hits?
Am I a cuck or is this expansion actually looking decent?
>>343304252
No reason to resub until pre-patch
>>343304350
They always look decent. Then you hear about all the cool shit getting removed, raids being delayed and everything in general being time gated so casuals who play three hours a week can keep up
>>343304252
Unless you want to start on the Legendary Ring quest that you probably can't finish in time, just wait for the prepatch.
>>343304402
>>343304728
What is coming with pre-patch that is worth subbing for?
>>343295620
thanks for the dump, anon.
>>343304627
All the shit that was removed from WoD was announced way before the point we are now for Legion's upcoming release.
>>343304941
Pre-patch event, Demon Hunters playable if you pre-purchased like a good goy.
>entire comic just to revive Magni and say the Legion is returning
WOW MASTERFUL WRITING
>>343304941
Doomsayer event, Demon Hunter starting area early access, Broken Shore scenario, transmog system is in and new class mechanics.
>>343304350
Everything looks pretty damn good so far, but I'm still pissed about a second fucking ability pruning.
>>343305126
It was just a 10 page preview...
>>343305042
>>343305132
Is there some info on what the pre-patch event is going to be like?
How are the warrior class quests looking?
>>343304091
what quest?
>>343305776
A Rather Long Walk, it's in Azsuna
>>343305643
http://www.wowhead.com/guides/legion/pre-patch-demon-event
Repent, for the end is nigh!
>>343295906
It's probably Azeroth, the baby titan in Azeroth
Therazane is just the strongest earth elemental on Azeroth, which are natural world spirits.
Also, the reason Azeroth elementals are huge assholes compared to Draenor is because the 5th elemental presence determines how comfy elementals are but the titan baby consumed too much of it, also the old god brainwashing made them into assholes.
>>343296493
He's the fucking head of Blizzards creative departments. He could only fire himself.
>>343296160
To appease players who get angry when their race doesn't have any lore focus.
>>343305643
Demon Invasions of Azeroth, on the ptr they're instanced and buggy as fuck but fun when they work. Rewards i700 gear and a pet.
Doomsayer event is also pretty fun by letting you turn into a Dreadlord for a minute and making npcs hostile and such.
So if they gave Azeroth gender this early and it's she, dose this confirm that Azeroth will born not just vanish.
Any one can tell me if Elune is super god of wow universe why is Cenarius so weak and corrupted in Legion.
>>343306534
If Azeroth awakens as a Titan it means the death of every creature on it. It'll probably turn out she's compassionate and cares about the mortals that inhabit her shell, and she'll empower us to defeat Sargeras.
>>343306624
Because he's probably been retconned out of being Elune's son since she's a baby planet now.
>>343306807
Elune is't Azeroth, Elune is one who created Naarus.
>>343306624
It's still not clear what Elune actually is.
She's either the counterpart of the void gods, a god of light and creator of the Naaru, or she's just an aspect of Azeroth's world soul.
>>343306887
Warcraft 2
>>343306887
It's why they're retconning everythong now and establishing "what really happened" in the Chonicle books.
Elune is the one thing they're still leaving in the dark though, even with the in game text speculation that she created the Naaru.
>>343307080
Is't there coming out second chronicles and maybe third one too.
>>343307080
It's actually been cleared up though?
The night elves could sense Azeroths throgh the Well of Eternity and started worshipping that as their goddess of the moon Elune
>>343306620
Because they don't
In BC they just re-opened the portal they already had. This time the same guy who made the dark portal just made a new one using something from Illidan.
>>343306875
While the idea that Elune is a "Light lord" in the light like the Void Lords exist in the void, I've seen more connections to her being the baby titan. Blizzard retconns like crazy but the titan baby concept they had to work hard to not make it fuck with too much shit.
In the old lore the highborne thought Elune lived under the well of eternity, since the well is a world "wound" this would make sense.
The night elves owe their existence to being enhanced by the blood of the world.
>>343307238
That doesn't explain her creating the Naaru.
>>343307240
Yet there is evidences how elune feels like naaru and has naaru like powers. Currently it can go either way titan or super god. My money is on Super god because blizzard said that they are going towards one big god in universe, but blizzard retcons stuff daily and says things they aren't true all the time.
>>343307581
>Super God
If she made the naaru, she's the equivalent of a void god living in the light, since the naaru are the light equivalent of old gods (bizarre considering they never fight old gods and mainly deal with demons, but it's blizzard.)
>>343297290
Maiev is going to be a Villain even though she has been pretty fucking right about everything.
She hunted Illidan because he was a dangerous bastards.
She locked up all the demon hunters because they were dangerous and loyal to Illidan with some defecting to the burning legion.
She killed the mages who returned to night elf city because they are dangerous and tried to blame it on the worgen because they were dangerous too.
And finally she tried to kill that stupid cunt Malfurion because who was he to decide that the night elves do not deserve immortally and who was he to let the mages back into night elf society that almost ended the world.
She sees him as arrogant and dangerous as Illidan.
But of course Malfurion has Metzen plot armor and Maiev is declared insane.
>>343307517
Elune creating Naarus is still theory made up by Khadgar and not just 100% confirmed, most likely blizzard left wigel room for them self if need arise to retcon.
>>343307517
I don't remember that being in the Chronicle
>>343307789
It's in quest texst on legion.
>>343299874
Fucking this, DKs not giving a fuck for the greater good and serving the lich king.
Reminds me of the DK starting questline and I love it.
>>343307724
might just make next Warcraft game
WARCRAFT:Night elves and Orcs
>>343306887
The writers are complete shit at big story arcs, the only time they were sort of decent was original WoW with the Prestor stuff or for Old Gods in Classic/Wrath/MoP. Cata was way too forced on Old Gods and just made it feel tired, and the lack of one appearing didn't help it at all.
The only reason perception of this shit writing is skewed is because they are kinda good at writing small character stories. BC, Wrath, and MoP were all really great on this.
>>343306751
Theres no evidence that the planet gets destroyed, only killing the Old Gods does that.
She will probably just teleport out.
>>343307779
The only way to activate lights heart is with something of Elune, there is definitely a connection.
Velen proposed that she may be a Naruu and almost got kicked out of Nelf city for it.
>>343308079
Yea it's titan soul not her body.
>>343305042
Demon Hunters wont be playable on day one of the pre patch, only like a week or something before Legion goes live.
>>343307778
That last part was pretty objectively wrong. But yeah Malfurion is a Thrall-tier retard that the plot insists you should love.
>>343308219
Yea evidence for one true elune is relay strong but so id dark forces of retcons.
But one of pilars of creation is Tears of Elune and pillars are titan relics.
>>343307861
I see. Could be the NPC is talking out his ass though?
>>343308230
I like how Sargeras was turned into an anti hero instead of the typical I have been corrupted and Insane route so I will destroy everything just because.
Sargeras gave up his sanity for the sake fo the universe.
>>343308384
Maiev being Insane or Malfurion being a cunt?
They state at the end of Wolfheart that she is insane or at least the night elves and everyone else thinks she is.
It is possible she will turn evil since Illidan will become a good guy.
>>343308427
They have yet to connect the Naruu and the Titains.
They have the same goals and enemies.
>>343307901
Actually they do care, it keeps popping up, Darion only invades LHC because you tell him to, and you only do it because Bolvar placed his mark on you and you're being influenced by him.
I fully expect the final chapter of the DK order hall story to be the Ebon Blade realising they're being used and manipulated by the LK again and that they need to destroy the Crown of Domination once and for all. But they'll probably need to kill/capture the Nathrezim who crafted it in the first place.
why does this fucking company get away with everything?
>>343308658
>Maiev being Insane or Malfurion being a cunt?
The murdering people and framing the worgen part
>>343308079
>>343308230
Titan's bodies are literally the planets they originated from. If Azeroth awakes, the planet ceases to be to create the Titan.
>>343295734
I mean. That's his kid. Granted she married a Dark Iron but still.
>>343308731
Fanbois that how Bethesda get away whit stuff.
>>343297290
Get fucked. Maiev is a terrible character.
>M-muh vengeance
>>343308802
But she did.
She and her new band of wardens were killing the Highbourne and framing the Worgen.
She was appointed the person to find out the killer and it was her all along.
>>343308835
And where the fuck does it state that, they are born from planets but nowhere does it say the planet no longer exists.
>>343308361
A week seems short, considering they're adding DH weapon drops to HFC and the Invasion event.
I think July 19th for 7.0 then DH and Invasion activated early August.
>>343308984
>But she did.
MORALLY wrong.
>>343308861
And she had baby whit dark iron king so king of dark iron will be king of ironforge too, so Dark iron dwarfs won the war.
>>343308921
She never cared about vengeance against Illidan, it was her duty and job to imprison him.
It was vengeance against Malfurion and Tyrande though.
>>343299874
Who the fuck are the other three? Is that fucking Saurfang Jr.?
>>343308835
Yea >>343308984 is right, there is no word that if azeroth is born planet get fucked.
>>343308984
Chonicle book, very first chapter.
"For ages, the nascent titans slumbered, their energies suffusing the celestial bodies they inhabited. When the titans fnally awoke, they did so as living worlds. Cosmic winds howled across their gigantic forms, bodies shrouded in a cloak of stardust, skin crisscrossed with silvery mountain peaks and oceans shimmering with latent magic."
>>343309169
Nazgim, sally whitemane and some trollbane
>tfw no Warden Armor for all Night Elves
>>343309169
Orc is Nazgrim
Woman is Sally Whitemane
Dunno the last guy but looks like Thassarian
>>343309169
General Nazgrim
King Thoras Trollbane
High Inquisitor Whitemane
Highlord Darion Mograine
>>343309038
>Highbourne almost wreaked the world
>Tyrande killed her watchers and freed Illidan
>Malfurion was arrogant enough to deny the night elves immortality while his brethren were growing old and dying around him.
>Malfurion allowed the Highbourne back into Night elf society.
>Worgen were animals that were sealed in the emerald dream for fucking shit up, Malfurion let them back in too.
Maiev is a grey character but so far she has done nothing wrong besides being extreme in methods and getting people killed along the way.
>>343309270
Doesn't say the planet get fucked, they could live on the titan bodies.
>>343308835
The way chronicles describes them as having plane like features on their bodies means that nothing on the planet will die from it.
Will I get to see everything the pre-patch offers if I sub a week before the expansion launches?
>>343309478
Nice gymnastics but the worgen in the Alliance have proven to be nothing but steadfast allies and are at best tangentially related to the worgen sealed in the Dream. Framing them for murder to justify her own murders is madness and works against her supposed goals.
>>343309690
I somehow think that the planet bursting and restructuring into a humanoid form would do at least as much damage as the Cataclysm, probably a lot more.
Stormwind
August 30, 2016
>>343309393
What kind of backwords thinking would drive the Ebon blade to ressurect a bunch of cunts and traitors into deathknights?
Doesn't this mean Darion is also now just as guilty as Sylvanas in continuing scourge-like behaviors.
>>343309823
You might not be able to farm for the event sets and pet and some achievs. But you would get all the essentials.
>>343309960
Except if life, arcane and elemental activities fuel the life of the titan why would it's birth extinguish them?
>>343310016
Nazgrim isn't a traitor.
>>343310002
Legion just fuels my hate against the elves
>>343310218
did you miss him being a boss in siege of orgrimmar or something?
>>343310218
You're right, he's a hero who pledged himself and died honorably even though his leader was starting shit.
That makes it even worse, he doesn't deserve undeath.
>>343310016
Nazgrim was loyal and honorable to the end, even if he was on the wrong side.
Thoras Trollbane was one of the greatest human kings who ever lived, nothing to see there.
Whitemane was a zealot with a sad backstory, she was offered a chance at redemption and took it. There's a lot of implications about the afterlife in the WoW universe in the quest text, it offering a lot of perspective life doesn't offer.
>>343294479
>No Varian
Why even bother?
>>343309905
I am speaking from Maiev point of view she has been outside night elf society for over ten thousand years.
Worgen and Night elf relationship when she returned were tense already, she seen them as beats and used it for her advantage.
Maiev is reckless but her goals are sound.
>>343309960
>>343310167
Why would we support the titans as well if we are doomed to die.
>>343310002
I weep for roleplaying servers, God only knows how much worse Silvermoon and Stormwind will be.
>>343310327
Nazgrim was following the honor code to a T, he would die for his warcheif even if he was a cunt.
>>343310413
None of those except whitemane deserve undeath though.
>>343310327
Only because he was honor-bound not to betray his Warchief. He knew he was on the wrong side but still fought because of his oaths.
Makes him to raise him as a DK, he'd never betray you.
>>343295938
Certainly hope you mean the later issues of the WoW comic.
The first 6 or 7 were crisp as fuck.
>>343310327
>Nazgrim fulfills his oathsworn duty as general of the Horde even to death
>Traitor
Are you retarded or something?
Remember Blizzard's Legion PVP Q&A is in 25 minutes if you want to hear the death of PVP in real time.
>>343310471
Hes dead jim.
>>343310413
Whitemane was physically insane from her traumatic childhood.
In the after life she was sane and regret her decision.
>>343310553
Also repeatedly mentioned in the quests, but they're all asked, not forced, and they all answer the call.
Except for Tirion because the light doesn't allow it.
>>343310327
He didn't want to be. Ultimately he was loyal to the Horde and followed his warchief no matter what. When you start his encounter he even tells you he doesn't want to do this but he has to.
Basically this >>343310393
>>343299874
>the first content patch after legion releases
>bolvar turns out to have been a bad guy as no-one can fight ner'zhul's influence
>cue the resurgence of the scourge with the reformed four horsemen at the forefront, presumably with someone other than mograine leading them because he already got turned into a good guy
>mfw
fucking calling it right now boys
>>343310528
>Maiev is reckless but her goals are sound.
That's not just recklessness though, she is dangerously misinformed and even delusional about the state of Night Elf and Alliance society. Her actions are fueled by conclusions and facts that only exist in her head.
>>343310528
>>343310576
>>343310631
oh yeah i can't wait until his new master goes insaneâ„¢ or becomes corruptedâ„¢, which is pretty much inevitable being an undead (see: Sylvanas) and he places his blind loyalty over reason again
>Zul'jin was never resurrected.
>The greatest Troll champion and legend was killed by a bunch of tomb raiders.
>>343299874
Hopefully it'll go into Warhammer 40k territory, where everything is so over-the-top it becomes amazing.
>>343310762
Ner'zhul's soul was literally expelled from the crow of domination by Arthas.
DK Nazgrim is pretty OP.
>>343310802
Night elf society is shit though, Night elf lore has been shit since they let Knaak jizz all over it.
>>343310684
Like that holy guy in original four horsemen? whos faith in light was so strong that he wielded it even after being made servant of lick king or Alexandros Mograine?
>he isn't maining a Male Night Elf Demon Hunter in Legion
What are you, gay?
>>343311008
Ner'zul's soul is in frostmourne with Arthas' torturing Arthas for fucking him over.
You fight both during the frost dk quest.
>>343311096
Blood Elves are the true heirs to the Highborne. Suramar resembles Silvermoon, meanwhile night elves are squatting in treehouses.
>>343311228
I thought Arthas was in the belly of Yogg-Saron, the reason Sylvanas clings to life?
>>343311218
>playing as an elf
>a male elf
>thinks he can call anyone else gay
good one mate
>>343311008
>>343311228
oh well, they'll find some other bullshit corruption cop-out instead
scourge raid is going to happen though, mark my words
>>343298152
Didn't Jaina throw a tantrum and leave the Kirin Tor?
>>343294479
so they're finally advancing dorf storyline? about goddamn time
We Lich King now.
>>343311218
mne is worst dh tho
fne> mbe > fbe > mne
>>343311264
Sin'dorei master race, Quel'dorei traitor genocide soon.
>>343311365
I don't know man, souls are weird in wow.
First his soul was trapped in frostmourne
Then part of it escaped and was running around as a little boy with his name jumbled up
Then his soul reunited with body before death
Then his soul went to hell
And now he is back in the sword.
>>343311447
Yes. The Kirin Tor override Jaina trying to go full retard in the middle of a world shattering crisis and she throws a bitchfit, then leaves.
>>343299874
Speaking of DKs, will Koltira's story line continue? I want to know if Thassarian saves his bro.
>>343311575
I think in the frost artifact questline they're called "echoes" not the actual souls.
>>343311447
Yep, we Khadgar now.
>>343311528
Gold looks dumb but at least they changed the pupils.
I want the Lich King's glowing eyes though.
>>343311651
He does and you help him infiltrate undercity which makes it confusing as a Forsaken DK.
>>343311651
He's one of the followers, and the only one you can have accompanying you as a bodyguard.
You save him from Undercity with Thassarian somewhere after getting the first two Horsemen.
>>343309379
It hurts, I would like to play as warden.
Do rogues still have shadowstep and fan of knives?
>>343311651
Yeah, one of the DK quests is breaking into UC with Thassarian to free him.
>>343310002
>eww, playing a girl. are you a fag?
>>343311681
They are reffered to as Echos but Ner'zhul claims Arthas' soul is his and that you ruined his plans.
>>343311651
Blizzard took the meme route and instead of making it like Sylvanas brainwashed him they instead make a joke about it that implies Sylvanas did sexual things to him.
>>343311528
Holy hell those textures are really good for WoW.
>>343311790
Being a forsaken DK has got to be all kinds of weird in general.
>>343311790
Not really. The whole shtick in Legion is player becoming class faction leaders and the factions doing stuff themselves because Alliance and Horde are incompetent.
An Alliance DK would have the same problems with raising Thoras into undeath.
>>343311810
Only Ass. Rogues do.
>>343311931
He disobeys her and she can't help but have sex with him.
Koltira is an alpha male, confirmed.
havent played for real since WoTLK and im kinda craving to
definitely going to play the xpac, but i guess now is a shitty time to resub?
wait its real?
looked like shitty fan art done by a 8 years old
>>343310002
>No IllidanDMSwe
I miss Wotlk
>>343311983
>Raised from the dead by the scourge
>Fight the scourge
>Freed and Join the Forsaken
>Killed
>Raised from the dead by the scourge
>Fight for the scourge
>Freed and join the Forsaken again
>>343312007
Still though, the Forsaken are loyal as fuck to the Queen, she is basically their God.
>>343311931
She needed to satisfy her cravings for Lor'themar.
It's also why she put Nathanos' in a new body. She didn't like sexy times with his bones showing. Hue.
>>343296351
The naaru never used to have voices, right?
>>343312178
>Still though, the Forsaken are loyal as fuck to the Queen, she is basically their God.
Yes, hence why she's been betrayed twice by Forsaken already. Once by Putress and his apothecaries, once by newly rezzed Godrey who actually killed her.
>>343312204
Is Nathanos in a new body or did he just get a new Model change.
It finally confirms that he is a Dark ranger.
>>343310002
>whole duration of legion will be like this even if servers are empty the 4 retards playing will all be dh
>>343311528
this is cool and all but are they finally going to add in something like a tattered cloak to go along with this set
there's so little cloak variety in wow, it's almost pathetic
>>343311615
I really really hope they don't try and pull another garrosh
>>343310528
>I weep for roleplaying servers
I'd like to say that after more than 9 years of blood elves, and almost 8 years of DKs, or even just almost 12 years of edgy kids playing warlocks or rogues, people would develop enough self-awareness to think "maybe playing another "CRAWLING IN MY SKIN" edgelord/anti-hero isn't original and tiresome"
But then I read profiles and my hope dies. God damnit, I'm a blood elf shitter myself, but I wanted to be one since Frozen Throne days, and I always tried my best to play them as something other than ponces who sit around gossiping in Silvermoon. God damn, it's a race that's had their entire world view get flipped twice in an extraordinarily short time by elf standards, do something cool with it.
>>343312384
Cloaks could use variety, I've been wishing for something like Kael's cloak for about 8 years now. Superhero capes are so boring, but I feel naked without one.
>>343312325
It hasn't been explained really. A few dialogues have banter that could be construed as there being feelings between him and Sylvanas, which ahs already been implied way back.
So giving him an undead human model would make it less creepy? But probably a retcon unless they explain why he doesn't have his old model anymore.
>>343312570
because metzen little girl wanted to change it
you have a problem with it?
>>343312420
Your best bet is joining a guild, I know some good Blood elf guilds on Argent dawn EU but every guild will have some form of shit roleplayers so there is nowhere safe.
I love Blood elf rp but in general it is crappy.
Forsaken rp is where it is at though.
>>343312570
He and Sylvanas defiantly would have boned if they had not been killed, looking at their close relationship, her family history and the fact she told the Prince to go fuck himself shows she was fond of him.
Though it confirms he is a Dark Rangers and shuts up all those nay sayers that claim he was not.
>>343312673
>you have a problem with it?
Getting tired of important npcs getting a dk skinned human model rather the easily more Superior forsaken model.
The death of PVP starts in a moment on Warcraft's twitch channel
>>343312384
There's a somewhat tattered cloak in WoD at the edges. PvP cloak from S2 for casters, but through transmog you can wear it on DK in Legion.
So I've never played wow but I've played a fuck ton of other mmos. Is it worth giving a try these days? I'm currently playing ffxiv and I'm just sick of the complete lack of content.
>>343311686
>Gold looks dumb but at least they changed the pupils.
No it doesn't. That looks great.
PvP Q&A is streaming.
What is the best part of modern wow and why is it Brawler's Guild?
>>343299874
I have very little doubt that the class quests will be the best part of this expac. I spent all my time on the beta rolling new characters and seeing the intros for every class and I'm loving it, mostly. Some feel pretty half assed, at least initially, but goddamn, still cool.
Also love how they are bringing in some "Forgotten" lore elements. This expac feels kind of like Cata in that regard. Taking these lore things that have been basically ignored for years and doing something with them. Getting the Blade of the Black Empire as a shadow priest and FINALLY seeing what the shit under Tirisfal is was cool as shit, even if it wasn't anything TOO exciting.
Though its kind of detrimental to people that don't like alts. You really have to play EVERY class and do all their shit to get a proper picture of the "current" lore. Like you won't know what the fuck is up with Thrall if you don't play a shaman and get the doomhammer.
>>343307778
Maiev helps the Demon Hunters escape in their intro. She appears to be a protagonist for the time being.
Not sure they need TWO corrupted Wardens in one expansion.
>>343313087
It's getting temporarily removed in Legion.
>>343313087
Because it challenging, fun, different and something to do.
>>343312809
As far as what Horde RP interests me it's Blood elves (if done right) > Troll > Tauren > Undead > Orc = Pandaren > Goblin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most blood elf rp
>>343312384
so far from datamining it looks like we may be getting tier cloaks as an added slot to swap out and afford more flexibility when choosing gear
Every time I start up with WoW again I feel compelled to make a new charecter
but then I get tired of it after lvl 60 or so since I've got so much more grind until max level
it just goes on and an and the early areas (i.e. 90% of the game) are so dead all the time or full of twinks rushing through.
my highest level character is 82
>>343304402
People should resub before the end of july for the really fucking cool movie transmogs.
>>343313087
So good it's not in Legion
>>343313219
Like you won't know what the fuck is up with Thrall if you don't play a shaman and get the doomhammer.
I actually think it's kind of clever. Now there's additional content if you decide to level alts, which will make the game's lifespan last longer than normal if someone wants access to all of the content
>>343313262
You play on EU or US because I like your taste besides undead being so low.
But my first RP was trolls and it made me fall in love with Troll.
Horde Troll rp is dead on argent dawn eu sadly, everyone is rping as Zandali sympathizers or survivors but I was always playing as an Amani spy anyways.
Should I get into Legion m8s?
My pros so far:
Melee hunters
Cons:
Free Oranges for everyone
No more rolling need on all of the various hunter items
>>343311218
>ever playing a night elf male
>ever playing a walking refridgerator when one of the most fappable races of all time is playable isntead
you gay nigga
>>343313219
>Void Form lasts for almost no time
>Insanity generation is fucking slow, even with that talent
>10~ seconds later, you're dead and can't be revived in battle (puts on a debuff that prevents any form of battle res)
As fun as the talent SHOULD be, they need to make Void Form last longer by default. I want to use that talent just because it sounds fun, but when I tried it out I was severely disappointed.
Haha PvP loot is completely RNG.
>>343312420
>tfw you just want to play your blood elf as an originally self-interested cunt whose adventures through all the expansions made him develop compassion for his fellow Horde members and go from using his faction to further his pursuit of arcane knowledge to seeing himself as a guardian of Azeroth and its people
>But everyone assumes I'm just some prissy wizard that embodies the "I'm too COOL and CONFLICTED for friendship" cliche or else an ERPing twink.
>>343312936
WoW is a grandfathered in MMO, the content claim is inflated because half of each expansions content is abandoned once the new one is set in.
You're be paying for every expansion which is essentially just paying to move forward through leveling up in it's territories, all the raids and other content are made useless.
>>343313326
I agree with this but I blame the fact that Outland, Northrend and cata zones are boring a second time round and really fucking slow in comparison to whats before and after.
Northrend is still cozy though.
>>343310002
Not like having a bunch of death knights was any different. But they got garbage thrown at them and boo'd by NPC's so it was fun.
>>343313087
>Fighting the eye maze guy
>Fighting the final guy when you're not decked out in heroic/mythic gear
>Fighting Epicus Maximus
The Punchout boss is my favorite, but the three I mentioned? Fuck them. They were the only difficult ones. I beat everything, but still fuck them.
>>343313326
>start at level 1
>find a nice podcast or something to listen to, with plenty of episodes
>read the quest text
>go slow as hell
>investigate shit even though there is no 'reward'
>stop caring about efficiency
There is no comfy like that comfy.
>>343313683
>You're be paying for every expansion
Except not. They roll the old expansions into the base game fairly quickly. WoD is already part of the base game.
>>343313704
I've done outland and northrend so many times now it just kills me every time I go back, i always just want it over with
desu though I haven't seriously played since Cata
>>343313731
I'm on the last boss of rank 7 in normal raid gear. I'm hoping if I just learn how to dodge his light ball things I'll wear him down
>>343313683
Well, there's Timewalking now. Would be nice if they expanded that into raids.
>>343313508
Wasn't impressed with survival, or any hunter spec, when I tried them. Might be better once you get all their artifacts and a legendary, but you have a lot of dead time in your rotation, which is boring as fuck.
>>343313776
that's why I always start fresh, its comfy at first but starts to drag on around lvl 40
I played a vanilla server for a while (Nosgoth) before Blizz shut it down and loved it by comparison, forgot how great vanilla was especially with a populated server
>>343313731
Fuck the eye maze guy. Especially as any class that has more than a 2 button rotation.
Titanforged PVP gear, hah.
>>343314003
If Vanilla was more balanced for all specs, it'd be pretty much the perfect game.
>>343313504
US. I fell in love with trolls as an extension of my years playing Island Troll Tribes back in Warcraft 3, and also because my favorite locations to explore in vanilla were Shatterspear Village and Old ZG and ZF. Trolls were way cool man.
>>343313595
I know that feel well, it's why I'm going to try and mosey on in with Tauren sunwalkers on my blood elf paladin.
That's quite an unappealing artstyle.
>>343313326
>are so dead all the time or full of twinks rushing through.
I remember getting rock hard when I got my first shoulders even if they were shitty greys with no stats. Now people just get heirlooms or green/blue handouts.
>>343313776
One of the biggest issues I'm seeing with legion is a couple classes seem "balanced" around having their artifact. Like balance druid seems like it would be just awful to level because it really feels like integral parts of your kit are missing until then. The moon spell is actually a big part of your rotation, unlike a lot of artifact skills which are just "do damage every 45-90 seconds".
>>343314101
>tfw used a rotation bot, and I focused entirely on using the mouse to dodge the walls
It was justified.
>>343313842
I can understand why they are giving free level boosts and shit to new players.
I mean you go from 1-60 full of interesting mechanics and diverse quests to Outland which now has an ancient quest system full of lore that is no longer explained since Vanilla questing is gone, plus you pretty much go back in time.
Must be confusing as hell for a new player.
>>343313087
Got the epic shirt in MoP, it was really good
i was looking into the survival spec for a reworked class to play with during legion
i dont have anything against it mechanically
but boy it looks really terrible
christ just make it into an engineering class already
you have talent choices devoted to throwing grenades
but for some reason your "turret" is a magic spitting cobra
>ameriturds consider wow comics art and capeshit art good
>>343310002
>play NElf rogue
>seriously consider race changing because everyone will be a Nelf in Legion
>>343312285
They are telepathic.
>>343313087
Ahoo'ru was a pain in the ass with an avg ilvl of 680, but i killed him nonetheless.
Thank God enh shamans have so many cd's to use.
>>343314602
Night elves are one of the most played races on alliance side anyway. You picked the wrong race if you wanted to be a special snowflake, long time ago.
>>343314421
yea it honestly just feels really outdated
desu instead of adding more and more upper level stuff they should go back and upgrade the existing zones
like if instead of WoD creating a second Draenor they should have had some temporal rift where Outland was replaced with Draenor and 60-70 lvls were spent there plus maybe an upgraded Outland rift once you reach max level for players to revisit and do new things in.
>>343312285
Yeah they did. They have talked into your head since they were introduced into the game.
>>343314517
Different ballparks. You shoudln't compare US comics with a couple of months production length, with the drawing mostly taking under a month, to graphic novels and European BD's with superior art that take months, even years to draw.
>>343314703
DH will be a special kind of retarded tho. Easy as fuck to play and mobility out of the ass. If they had a healking spec I'd be fully prepared to see full LFR groups of those faggots.
>>343314703
>Night elves are one of the most played races on alliance side anyway.
Not since Every Man For Himself became a meme.
>>343314517
the French treat comics differently because they are superior.
notice how the French versions are always superior to their american counterparts
>>343314982
Second most played is still "one of the most played"
>Made a Worgen Rogue, specifically for a visual exploit
>Method of doing so is going away in Legion
>Regret having a Worgen Rogue, except for the skinning
Pickpocket with Glyph of Disguise > Running Wild = NPC carrying you in their left hand. Most fun I've had is running around as one of those big orcs from Black Temple, a dude trying to use the skymirror on me, and turning into my worgen look. Dude claimed I was a hacker, and it was funny.
Leveling to 60 is a joke, and I still have my 100 boost from preordering. How shit is a Dwarf Rogue?
>>343315069
Rogue Dwarf best Dwarf.
>>343315265
this
stoneform+vanish was a godsend back in the days where vanish didn't work more often than it did
>>343315069
>Pickpocket with Glyph of Disguise > Running Wild = NPC carrying you in their left hand
i need to fucking see this
thinking of trying Kronos for that vanilla fix, hope its as good as Nosgoth was
>>343315717
It's a pretty solid server, just steer clear of /vg/ guilds.
>>343311218
>Male Night Elf
>ever
>>343315601
Give me a few minutes, and I'll get you a good image.
>>343315824
>just steer clear of /vg/
Fixed that post for you.
>>343315039
how can americans even compete?
>>343315824
Is there any RP on it? Vanilla rp was comfy as hell.
>>343311528
Is this the Mythic set?
>>343316204
honestly I'd love to find a populated private RP server from Vanilla, or at the least BC/Wrath
I imagine most would be worse than Goldshire though
>>343314517
Nobody considers the WoW comics art at this point.
>>343315892
Me again, I fucked up.
It's
>Pickpocket with Glyph of Disguise
>Select self (F1)
>Use Ai-Li's Skymirror
>Use Running Wild
I made a mistake and pickpocketed a human, which doesn't work. I didn't know this, and now my mirror is on a 1 hour cooldown.
If you leave the /vg/ wow thread open for an hour or so, I'll post an example then, unless there's a way to reset this toy's cooldown.
>>343316290
Yes. Unfortunately the other variants have rather shitty color choices.
This is LFR.
>>343307778
You work with Maiev in Valsharah and she's the one that opens the cages to free the demon hunters when the demons attack
>>343316471
>gives the coolest looking gear to Mythic and not Heroic
ya fucked up blizz
It always goes Heroic > Mythic > Normal > LFR
Is Maiev a yandere for Illidan?
>>343316595
I like the Mythic models. They have cool effects since WoD.
>>343316619he killed her gf
>>343312415
You mean you hope Metzen doesn't get butthurt that another character's writing trumps his little green Mary Sue and shapes them into a villain as soon as possible? Yeah me too.
>>343313582
you can easily make it last for a minute during Surrender if you're not a complete fucking retard.
>>343316668
Yes, but it's nice to be back to Mythic only having a different color and more elaborate shoulders/helm.
LFR is too easy, but I still like to get tier sets on all my alts, and the LFR gear in WoD was just crappy dull looks rather than a low-brow tier recolor.
>no more 2 healers or 3 dps in arenas
Hue.
>>343316454
should be up by the time the cooldown's up, i can wait
>>343315879
Been huntarding with my male nelf since mid bc, you wish you could dance as well as I could.
>>343301167
>Get BTFO by the Paladins again.
DK taught their place.
>>343313219
The new Shadow Priest fluff is awful.
>shadow is supposed to be the reverse of the light
>forsaken priests made a church of shadow to spite humans and their church of the light
>naaru are perfect light beings but when they get fucked up enough they turn into void gods and start eating souls to heal themselves
>nope none of that is canon it's old gods now
>everyone else doing cool shit to prepare for the Legion
>hunters basically just jacking off on a mountain somewhere and occasionally killing/capturing "legendary" animals
>>343317110
Fun fact, I was wrong. No need for the mirror.
http://webmshare.com/3v6E8
Webm was just too big, so here's a link.
>>343317372
Isn't it? Aren't Old Gods servants of the Void Gods?
>>343317372
Doesn't really bother me at all. I never really cared about old shadow fluff though.
>>343294832
>time to wake up
What the shit this is not how it works.
>>343311015
Yeah fuck those forsaken clowns
>>343317435
ahahaha
thanks for the good kek; though i'm guessing this only works if you're a rogue using glyph of disguise?
>>343317393
That's unbelievably fitting.
>>343317725
Worgen Rogue, since "Run Wild" is a racial. No other race Rogue can do it.
Works with any humanoid, other than Human obviously.
>>343316739
Hello Ferlion, have you quit the game yet? It's me, Onimontu.
>>343317393
>not wanting to just be up in a cozy hunting lodge for the entire expansion, doing absolutely fucking nothing
sounds pretty fucking great to me fampai
>>343317775
It is. Its just so incredibly boring compared to the crazy high end shit EVERY OTHER class is doing.
>>343295409
get out, wrong board >>>/pol/
>>343317545
That's just something they added in Legion which is also stupid because of all the time they spent trying to hype Old Gods as the ultimate unkillable evil.
>>343317393
Is there even a reason to resub before the legion patch? Also, why the fuck do orcs only have 3 racials? What happened?Haven't touched the game since early 2009.
>>343317372
If naaru become void when they start to die then clearly Old Gods become light.
>>343304091
my favorite wow quests were probably the dwarf fortress one in cataclysm barrens and the one in WotLK alliance grizzly hills with eating and shitting out a bucket of nuts
>>343318006
Sargeras was hyped up to be the ultimate evil. And he still is pretty damned close to that.
>>343317848
was just wondering since i play a worgen hunter and have experimented a lot with skymirror fuckery, but never found something quite so broken as this
>>343318058
There's never a point to resub before a prepatch unless like in your case you haven't seen most of it want to experience the disaster that is WoD before it's a relic of the past.
>>343295183
>It'll probably be brushed over in game though.
It won't even be mentioned. Because you were supposed to buy the comic.
>>343294479
Fuck you, Metzen.
>>343317943
Just like huntards themselves.
>>343318118
Sargeras has some character and motivation for things, Old Gods are pure evil Lovecraft blobs that only exist to be dicks.
>>343308861
>>343309074
FUCK YOU METZEN
>>343311572
male blood elf demon hunters are the worst though, animation wise. Just compare their walking animation with glaives up to the other DHs
>>343318124
Do you have any transformation toys, like Bones of Transformation or Coin of Many Faces? If so, do this;
>Use toy that transforms you
>Skymirror yourself (You'll get an error if you try mounting before this step)
>Click off the toy buff (Not Skymirror)
>Use Running Wild
Bonus points for Bones of Transformation. If you have it, use it. It's...interesting.
>>343309367
>sally whitemane
rings a bell....
>>343317545
Void Lords which are apparently some kind of far realm entity that can't manifest in reality except for slinging small parts off which are the old gods
>>343318524
Scarlet Monestary. "Rise, my champion!"
>>343309905
>but the worgen in the Alliance have proven to be nothing but steadfast allies and are at best tangentially related to the worgen sealed in the Dream
Fucking crazy rewrites
>>343316619
She carries a memento of him, so yes
Artifacts and Order Halls for next weeks q&a.
Shit, no prepatch date announcement. Was hoping it'd be in this Q&A because it coincides with ending current pvp season.
>>343317393
Well I mean shit what is there to do as a huntard besides get bigger pets and guns?
>>343318586
Ohh that one, she was a semen demon in life. She hated undeads so much, but now became one, I like the new horsemen.
>>343295620
>Time is not on his side
>Fucking walks
>>343318834
Hunt stuff that's not just mindless beasts?
>>343318496
going to test this out and see if it works, thanks
>>343318883
>>343318586
>>343311831
Not anymore forsaken players whined too much about Sylvanas actually losing for once
>>343318340
Nothing about the old gods has changed other than their purpose and their creators.
The only issue I have with the concept is that it implies naaru are the equivalent to Old gods, despite not really being "equal.
I originally perceived the concept of naaru going dark as there being an equal number of naaru and void gods in the universe, and that their number represented the strength of light. I thought the plot was going to be that the naaru hate the legion because their destructive motives are causing the void to grow more and more powerful.
With this new lore, the "equilibrum" concept is out. Now the naaru turn into void gods simply because of their physiology and their creator is implied to be the light equivalent to the Void lords, that can not enter reality.
Strange enough, the new magical sphere diagram shows a void god where the word Void Lord is written, implying that void lords are indeed some kind of void walker.
But since they can't enter reality, this needs to be explained by blizzard because void walkers, especially powerful ones like Dimensious go around and eat worlds. Thus far, there have been no indicated relationship between void creatures and old gods.
>>343317393
Hunters are lonely fucks that chill in nature anon.
>>343317613
Didnt know you were an expert in Dwarven-Planet commune rituals.
>>343296351
This scene looks familiar, hmm I wonder where I've seen it before...
>>343319052
Maybe I'm not, but I didn't know it was this simple. I mean I suppose they tried everything, like talking to him before.
>>343318970
Don't talk shit it's still in.
>>343302437
Shit, that sounds cool.
What is the mage questline like?
Thinking of rolling a caster alt to go along with my DK main in Legion.
>>343319158
the higher power set him free, the her magni is referring to in that dialogue is not moira
>>343311831
No "what took you so long" line from Koltira. Kind of a shame, really.
>>343319057
>a rock that talks
vs
>a chandelier that talks
Gotta say, WoW did it with some style.
>>343319158
It's the "earth" that's talking to him, not Moira.
>>343319057
That gameplay looks familiar.
>>343319357
>calling a crystal a rock
>>343319382
Yeah I know right, looks a lot likeEverquest
>>343319057
please don't pretend ff14 created this space chat warning of greater evils to come scene, it's an old as fuck anime trope
>>343295704
I wonder how does her poo smell and taste like?
>>343311528
Almost look good.
>>343319407
looks like on of those switches in Zelda
good job japs
>>343319407
>crystal
Jesus, anon, they're minerals!
>>343319504
Like fucking hell it does. Don't drag EQ down to the casual garbage that is WoW and it's clones.
>>343302365
Ulster Scots would call ye a thicko you uneducated cunt
>>343319549
>WoWfags will call FFXIV a WoW clone (even though WoW is an EQ clone) but plug their ears and deny the constant copying of FFXIV WoW has done lately
FFXIV is the only MMO I've seen where the player is brought to a dimension outside of the game's reality to converse with a gigantic crystal of light that is essentially a cosmic entity that transcends time and space.
>>343319708
WoW is literally an EQ clone headed by asshurt former EQ crybabies.
>he isn't maining a Male Night Elf Demon Hunter in Legion
What are you, a faggot?
>>343319995
>maining the newest class
Truly a pleb
>>343319897
WoW is an EQ clone the same way Overwatch is a TF2 clone. Only retard millennials think WoW is better than EQ.
>>343311528
>DKs finally getting armor that doesn't look like shit
Nice.
A lot of the new tier sets look good, only ones that look like shit are the Hunter and Monk ones.
REMOVE DARK IRON
REMOVE WILDHAMMER
MAKE KHAZ MODAN GREAT AGAIN
>>343319995
>horns on the weapons
I know that's not the silliest we've seen from this game, but man.
>>343319995
They look kinda lame as far as their combat rotation goes.
Double jumping and gliding are both cool but novelty and gimmicks can only carry a class so far.
>>343320069
I didn't say anything about anything being better than anything else.
>unironically using millennial as an insult
Unless you're in your 40s you really shouldn't be doing that.
>>343320178
More edges on your edge so you can edge while you edge!
>>343319995
War Glaives are probably the dumbest weapons every designed.
WAIT so where are black arrow and lock n' load and other survival ranged abilities going?
>>343320146
>complaining about DKs, who got alright sets in MoP and cool af sets in WoD
>complaining about a class getting the short end of the stick in terms of set gear when hunters exist
hunters literally have not gotten a single cool looking set since the end of TBC, and you think you can talk?
>>343320373
away
>>343320373
Gone, survival is melee now.
>>343320373
black arrow and lock n' load are both abilities that marksmanship has, at least from what i've seen
most of it is just being funneled into other specs
>>343320326
>>343320178
>waaaah why isn't WoW just like my Dark Souls weapons with realism!
>>343320454
>hunters literally have not gotten a single cool looking set since the end of TBC
Fuck you, I like the murloc set from Cata.
>>343320523
>marks
fug
>>343319995
Face it, the males night Elf will never look good as Illidan.
>>343319995
>everyone and their mom rolls a demon hunter
>i roll a dk instead
damn did i win?
>>343310002
Speaking from the beta DH will be more like monks in the long run, they are going out of there way to make dh not op plus they suck on pvp
>>343320617
Well?
Why isn't it?
>>343320697
Are you kidding nigga
Everybody is hyped for DKs in Legion
>>343320770
fuck off don't remind me
>>343320454
The Cata sets weren't that bad (Murloc, wyvern-thing and looking like those fire guys from Firelands)
Demon hunter pvp vs death knight
who would win post expansion?
>>343320941
Same as the original fight where Arthas won.
>>343320941
probably DH since they're going to be broken and OP just like every other new class for the first few months
how is WoW's RvR?
does it compare to DAOC, WAR, GW2, or ESO?
There has been surprisingly low amount of shitting on wow in this thread and mostly just discussion. Why is that? Why cant it be more like this?
On another note, When will blizz either remove LFR(hahahaha) or give players a reason to actually perform well? Its such a fucking chore to having to waste more hours than what should be neccessary just because people dont give a shit in lfr and just go afk or auto attack. Just give the top dpsers/healers a nice little reward for saving the other people some time.
>>343321060
There is no such thing in WoW really.
>>343320061
knowing blizzard
it will be fun till the first patch hits 2 month into the expansion
>>343321081
>On another note, When will blizz either remove LFR(hahahaha) or give players a reason to actually perform well?
Right after they launch Legacy Servers and announce Warcraft 4.
> tfw working on wowpedia is more addicting than WoW itself
>>343320753
>Everybody is hyped for DKs in Legion
Are you a faggot? Blood is super boring, Frost is retard-bait again, and Unholy is mediocre as fuck.
>>343321060
>wow
>RvR
that means fun, most wow players dont like that
>>343321081
If they make skill a requirement casuals will get pissy and complain about how they're entitled to the same content as the best players in the game.
>>343321081
LFR can't be too difficult or else no one will want to fucking do it and we will have groups that never fill.
On the other hand maybe they could increase the luck in loot of the people that performs well in dps, healing etc.
>>343321306
>he isn't maining a DK in Legion
No anon, YOU are the faggot.
>>343321306
Frost has always been retard-bait.
>dual wielding dks
Shameful.
>>343320924
>looking like those fire guys from Firelands
they pretty much copy-pasted the armor that one of the bosses was wearing
the design team for hunter sets is just so misguided, they have no idea that we've mostly grown tired of the whole "take animal, skin animal and use animal as armor"
>>343320423
Honestly, the first one is the best. Everything else is a bit too silly.
>>343321081
The only true incentive beside old school challenge conquering is cosmetics. Mythic tier versions look way better than the regular tier variants.
The people who want to conquer challenging content won't be in LFR in the first place. They skip LFR and msotly Normal to go to the real challenge as fast as possible.
>>343320770
loving the sylvanas look, but what's the alliance set look like?
I was originally going to make my DH simple looking with no glowing eyes or horns, but now I think I want him to be as edgy as possible.
Which race is edgier, NE or BE?
>>343321542
No such thing. This is Hunter T19 Mythic for everyone.
>>343321374
>go in LFR to gear up
>dont get loot since people with better gear perform better
i like my idea from a year ago
>the more LFR you play , the harder it gets and the better rewards you get
limit would be normal or heroic gear/difficulty clearly
>>343321576
Blood Elf. They have the better voices and model stance.
>>343321576
BLOOD elves.
>>343312415
>I really really hope they don't try and pull another garrosh
I kind of do. Imagine if she goes full kel'thuzad.
>>343302086
>The only thing that disappoints me about the campaign and attacking LHC is Darion not wanting to, and our character commanding him to. Would've been nice if there was at least the illusion of choice, rather than making the player character Bolvar's bitch 100%.
You don't understand being a DK with the lich king in play. You don't get choices, you carry out the will of whoever wears the helm.
DKs in wrath never really got "free", arthas let them go.
>>343312415
You mean she'll have completely reasonable arguments and be doing things for her own people's interest but the writer's self-insert will swoop in to kill her off because he disagrees with her?
>>343312415
She's getting a redemption arc for sure. Main reason being there's literally no one to replace her.
And judging from the Broken Shore event, this time she actually didn't betray anyone or start shit, it was Graymane blaming her for everyone getting rekt for no reason.
>that one guy, the literal madman, who actually plays a male draenei
>>343312415
Too late, she will definitely become a loot pinata in Legion patch because becoming a little bit interesting and completely opposed to the other faction in world of WARcraft is haram to Metzen.
>>343321998
the madman was my brother before we went horde.
>>343318901
Well, he's made of stone. Probably too heavy for your average gryphon.
>>343321647
well, i-it's a sligh improvement I guess...
>>343322009
i think we have more choices of raiding undercity again and kill slyvanass
>>343321231
They already removed the fun in the beta
eye beam damage was reduced
DH have 0 self heal other then a very low rng talent
or a talent that lowers your dps alot
dh get shutdown REALLY fast by war and DKs
DH damage out side of Meta is shit
>>343321998
They look cool in plate, my DK was male dranei before I re-rolled for Horde.
But I agree, most dranei you will find are female.
I'm feeling the wow bug again.
QUICK.
TELL ME WHY I SHOULDN'T SUB AGAIN!
>>343322184
Hunter will never get nice sets.
>>343322290
you should sub during the legion event not right now or you could download the ptr, is free.
>>343322290
Pre-patch isn't out.
>>343322290
Because the prepatch isn't out yet.
>>343321050
they arn't
>>343322290
play ptr
>>343322290
Give in to the darkness, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlXJJoXW2qM
I've been prepping by farming for some mog shit to unlock in the wardrobe.
>mfw I've run shattered halls each day for the past 3 weeks and still no Bladefist
>>343322290
Wait for the pre-patch, there is literally nothing to do now (unless you care about achievments like the raid ones etc).
I unsubbed months ago and I will return for the new content.
>>343321998
male draenei look fucking amazing in paladin T17
>>343322184
no dude what the fuck, this can't be real
please
>>343322551
How long would it take to level a fresh char and be raid-ready?
I just wanna have multiple characters ready for Legion.
>>343322650
yeah dude is a joke
xd
>absolutely gigantic world to explore
>absolutely empty and nothing to do but glorified fetch quests or sit around for the dungeon finder/raids
remember when WoW rewarded exploring/adventure and quests forced you to interact with the world?
>>343321998
Their /laugh is insufferable
>tfw Fury Warrior and looking at those artifact skinsOnly good one is the axe and that's a hidden skin
Guess I'll be rocking Whirlwind Axe for a long long time.
>>343322539
Been rocking that bladefist/bloodsail set in town ever since tbc, good choice.
>>343321745
Don't listen to this man, male BE DHs are easily the shoddiest out of the 4
>>343322727
If you are an absolute madman and you have heirlooms you can level up in a couple days. Gearing up I dunno, I suppose it is easier now because of welfare epics and shit.
>>343322539
>last time i played i was farming every raid in every class to get all tiers > weapons/offhands whatever that could be tmogged
i was done with a few full tiers of most classes (primary t4-t10 pack was almost done with everyone)
imagine a week like this
>log in
>do LFR for tiers i didn't save
>do every raid from t1 to t13 on most classes
>try to find time for mop raids since i still lack those mounts + tier
>>343322893
>remember when WoW rewarded exploring/adventure and quests forced you to interact with the world?
not really
>>343311528
wait
werent those shoulders on some pvp set 5 or so years ago?
>>343322893
Yes, and it still does. There's far more fault with the player knowledge base than with the game itself in that.
You want exploration? Try to find all the WoD treasures without an addon.
>>343322184
literally just some parts of the WoD levelling set meshed together with some other shit and some obligatory corruption on the shoulderpads and helmet
fucking hell this is insulting when you look at what stuff warriors get
>>343322906
>tfw holy priest but discipline has best artifacts
>tfw the book one would b perfect for the tier set
>>343322893
I've been playing on Vanilla/TBC servers for the past two years now. I can't think of a single quest that you "interact with the world
>>343323020
Those didn't look quite as impressive. But yes, dragon skull shoulders has been done before.
>>343322893
almost went a whole thread without someone coming in and going "back in vanilla", fucking hell you autists are unstoppable
>>343323042
>Try to find all the WoD treasures without an addon.
This was more enjoyable than it had any right to be.
Also killing rares.
>>343323186
no
not dragon skull, I definitly remember a higher tier DK pvp set with goat skull on helm and shoulders
>>343323286
that's his point I guess.
you can still do that kind of shit in legion but it will never be as a "good" as vanilla because you're not a kid anymore and you have addons to do everything for you.
How are enhancement shamans?
I forgot dwarves could be shammies these days heh.
>>343309367
>Nazgim
who let those filthy corpse fuckers defile our great hero?
>>343323042
>You want exploration? Try to find all the WoD treasures without an addon.
>vendor with map of all treasures
>>343322290
Wait until July 30 ish
>>343323459
>actually wasting your money on the vendor instead of getting it for free just for completing the zone's loremaster, which you would do anyway while leveling
>>343323410
enh is pretty fun on the ptr, meaning it'll never see live because blizzard's fuck fun policy
>>343323459
it's not like they force you to buy it.
>>343323459
>majority of treasures are just garrison resource's
>>343322184
>people have been clamoring for a set that isn't some weird neon light show
>lets give it to them!
and people still complain
>>343310872
Trolls get mo respect and it's bullshit. Zul'Jin shouldn't have been a raid boss, and Vol'jin shouldn't be getting punked out of the warchief position. Why make him warchief if you're not going to do anything with it Blizzard?
>Can't decide on what class i want to go
>Or faction for that matter
What's a good class to start with? Everywhere i look people just say "Don't go X it's shit in legion".
>>343323658
The troll empire will rise again
>want to be a balance druid
>All spells are moon related and not plants
I thought there would be more nature related stuff but whatever.
>>343323624
nigga what, that's the minority. Plenty of armor/weapons, some toys, some pets, and a decent amount of gold in the form of gray vendor items.
>>343323751
>the troll empire will be defeated again
fixd for you anon
lmao
>>343321231
or they'll be the new DK and be the most OP class which will never change until the next class comes around
>>343323706
Play whatever you feel like. No one knows or can predict what class will be good/bad in Legion so it's pointless to discuss.
>>343323564
>moving the goalpost
>>343323592
right , i'm not forced to , neither i care of finding hidden shit items in a 1pixel model for doing it "the fun way" you speak of
>>343323658
He's dead, but considering he's tied to the troll loa of death, Bwonsamdi, that probably doesn't mean much.
I fully expect Vol'jin to return later in Legion, possibly with all the remaining troll tribes behind him to fight the demons.
>>343323656
i don't think that's what people take issue with
i'd say it's because the set is objectively ugly and bland in comparison to the rest of the sets from that tier
>>343323828
Not this time
>>343323891
>I fully expect Vol'jin to return later in Legion
That would be hard when you're a bunch of ashes.
>>343323849
Dks were only fun till ulduar patch hit
but hey thats me that i played one as second main till ulduar patch
>>343324036
Why do memers like the troll so much anyway? Is it because of le weed?
>>343324085
>second main
that's called an "alt", bro.
>>343313707
DKs also had to go and run through a bunch of old content until we could catch up with everyone else.
I remember the full DK HFC dungeon runs and how literally 100% of the BC zones were filled with DKs.
DKs also had constant changes and balances going on the entire expansion.
Aside from the retarded number of them, the Demon Hunter experience won't be the same.
>>343323849
you fucking delusional m8? dks died with 3.0.2
absolutely GUTTED
>>343324085
>blood DKs have been OP
>since literally forever
>only just NOW getting nerfed to make way for the new tank
>>343324156
They're pretty cool dudes.
I've never met a troll player I didn't like.
>>343323891
>I fully expect Vol'jin to return later in Legion, possibly with all the remaining troll tribes behind him to fight the demons.
EY MON, WE BACK! AND WE BROUGHT HAKKAR!
>>343324041
You should know nobody stays dead in this game, especially if they can wring a few more bucks out of fans with them.
>>343324242
I miss shadow of death and old raise ally
>>343324156
I like them because they are the only pure evil race. Orcs are muh misunderstood noble savage who are too stupid to stop calling demons, BElfs are simply cunts, and Forsaken are evil but it's easy being evil when you are an undead. Trolls are the only ones who have no problems sacrificing people. practice cruel magic and so on.
>>343324190
i raided with him
i dont raid with my 9 alts
>>343324396
>tfw dks lost all their spec auras
w-well at least they have unholy aura now.
>>343324396
i miss unholy and blood being fun
>>343324560
they are pointless anyway
like warriors stances
>>343324265
>>343323891
An expansion is only good if it has a troll patch. That's why WoD was bad. No trolls.
>>343324617
i miss wow being fun
>>343318989
Naaru are shown to be super OP. The best way to handle the lore would be making Naaru weaker but more plentiful light based equivalent of the old gods, and have some greater forces of light that are as foreign to Azeroth as the Void Lords are. Basically just have Naaru be the agents of another greater set of entities. Or Entity.
Worgen druid or dwarf shaman?
>>343323908
all of the T18 sets are incredibly plain. the entire theme for that tier is "barely fancier looking than dungeon gear"
>>343318058
If you resubt before the end of July you get the movie promotion transmogs, which are cool as shit.
You also can do the pre event and prep for legion. Pre event gives some okay gear and a pet.
>>343324749
enhacement shaman is really good in the ptr.
>>343324662
This, to be honest. Slaughtering trolls and destroying their culture and entire civilization is one of the pillars holding up WoW.
>>343324845
>resub
you just have to log in as any level 1-20 character and you unlock them. you just can't get them until you resub
>>343324698
Please no, I don't want the light to be CHristianity 2.0 with God and angels.
>>343324560
I like that unholy is basically a pet class now. At least, you can talent it that way. Even the artifact ability it basically a convoluted second army of the dead.
>>343324749
Dorf.
>Wildhammer tattoos never
>>343324671
>only have fun with exploits for years
>arcane missiles hitting 11k peer tick during wotlk for 1 day before being stealth hotfixed
>timeless isle leveling exploit with the whole isle full of corpses and players (only time since tbc it feel like a mmo)
>>343324749
Druid is boring as fuck.
Unless you want to be a shittier version of 4 other classes.
Shaman is the greatest class of all time.
>>343324950
army of the dead with auto-corpse explosion on your little zombies
So how are the Class Quests / atmosphere and which ones do you think are the most badass?
>>343324948
It always was anon. Did you not notice all the light based shit was all angels and angel wings and light pillars and shit?
>>343294972
>hes not ME king
jesus christ
>>343325028
Its a fun ability. A lot of the artifact abilities are just PRESS MACRO FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE. Unholy actually takes a bit of prep to make the most of. They should all be that way.
>>343325110
But there was no god. The vision of angels and shit is mostly human, it's not necessarily part of the light.
>>343325204
THE LIGHT is said god.
And Elune was always a bit of an oddball in the lore. She could fit in easily since she is basically the night elf equivalent of THE LIGHT.
This thread is terrifyingly less hostile than most WoW threads. Whats the deal?
>>343325307
The Light was never a sentient being, anyone could use it if they knew how. There was even that DK in Naxx who could.
>>343317953
kill yourself nigger
>>343325307
The light is not a god in the sense usually given to the word, it's closer to a pantheistic idea of god. Making a Light Lord with Naaru as angels ruins this.
>>343325007
Ele is garbage. Enhance is okay, but just okay. Still too much downtime. And its resource system is basically the exact same thing as what druids have, except druids are ranged and have cooler spells.
>>343325493
>Still too much downtime
what? Take stonefist and you ill never have downtime
>>343295620
why is he wrapped in a furcoat? does he even get cold anymore?
>>343325405
People are discussing why the game is shit and not just calling it shit.
>>343325613
not to freak people out I guess since he looks like a walking statue
>>343325672
but people have known about the earthen for years
and golems arent exactly new either
R.I.P. ;_;7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6ua3DAw36o
Lion's rest will be my new AFK spot, this music is so damn good.
>>343325804
well he's earthen freak regular dwarves maybe?
plus golems are robots and the king is not a robot
>>343325405
When new content is released/or about to be released it gets discussion.
>>343325859
i'm just saying given the setting it isnt all that unusual
i doubt people would really care beyond a few curious stares
>>343325804
>people
some people who keep a close eye on events on an other continent I guess. not your random stone farmers though. even then I doubt they've SEEN one
>>343326007
well they are regular people, who probably never travel outside dun morogh they are not well traveled people as we are
>>343324627
>he's never played a warrior
>>343326132
plus golems tend to be monsters that kill people. you don't want to see them walking around
>people KNOW about giant man eating spiders, why would they care if they saw one?
>>343309367
>>343309382
>>343309393
>whiteman is now a DK
lelerino