RX 480 fails PCI-E specification
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>http://www.overclock.net/t/1604477/reddit-rx-480-fails-pci-e-specification/100
LGTSS
>AMD
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
HOLY FUCK
IS THIS THE BIGGEST AMD BLUNDER OF ALL TIME?
>>343288289
poor amdrones
DELETE THIS!
>>343288213
AMD poorfags on suicide watch
From what I read from the bits of the tread above, AMD needs to fix power draw from pci-e slot or won't be getting pci-e certification. which may or may not be important on low end motherboards, but AMD needs to re engineer something in order to make it's card industry stanfdard (pci-e) compliant.
>>343288728
theyre fucked
>>343288213
>SIG Certified
>Fails PCI-e specification
I wonder who knows specification better, SIG or Leddit
nvidia did this like 3 times within 2 years btw
Wow....It's nothing.
Who is Lgtss?
>>343288213
>tfw you bougth 4 480 to match the power of 1080
>it does not work
FUCK YOU GUYS THIS IS THE LAST STRAW I HAVE ENOUGH WITH YOU CUNTS HERE
>>343288728
Will probably be fixed with a new driver or BIOS that throttles the card as it's too late for a recall, in particularly as the manufactuers are already in production.
nVidia fucked up as well - the 1070 and 1080 cards are not fully supporting D-DVI spec and have boot issues on high-Hz displays. Might be fixable with a BIOS update though.
POO
>>343290941
>you fell for the poo man and his card
FUCK
amd is made for poor neets. if you own any amd products, consider suicide.
It's okay they'll just gut the card's performance and power draw with a driver
forget about matching a 970, enjoy your 660 performance poojeets
Yet ANOTHER paperlauch. Shame on both companies. I'm praying for Intel to start producing GPUs as well so I can (at very least) hope for some improvement on the market.
nVidia and AMD are companies run by retards, there's no other explanation.
>>343291005
>>343291168
Holly shittt... This is massive.
So RX 480 users are either going to not be able to use the card due overloading the motherboard...
Or paying $200 for a $100 card?
Guys, I just need something to replace my HD 6870.
What 2 do for about 200€?
>>343291395
It's a paperlaunch.
They HAVE to fix it otherwise they'll get sued into oblivion for destroying entire rigs.
I just hope the customs are able handle all the power draw and heat (wich probably will) so I can buy them.
>>343290906
>this post
welp, guess I'm waiting for the next series when they focus on pure power
>>343291728
You can wait for about 2 months until the cards that come from ships arrives. They'll cost much less than the ones that arrives with planes, and by the time there will be much less hype, thus much lower prices.
I know, the market sucks colossal dicks.
With that said, you'll be able to choose between 1060, 480 and maybe if you save some money the 1070.
>>343291728
buy used 970/980 don't let the jews fuck you
is this real or just nvidia propaganda?
As the AMD guy commented on the thread, he says no one else has this issue except these certain sites?
Either way I'm waiting for the GTX 1060 because poorfag but >amd
>>343290941
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN I PRESENT TO YOU
POOLARIS
>meanwhile I just managed to overclock my gtx1080 aftermarket card to a stable 2050mhz
kek'd
N-no...
why would they do this though?
>>343290906
wait people use dvi?
DELETE THIS
3.5GB
>3.5GB
3.5GB
>3.5GB
3.5GB
>3.5GB
3.5GB
>3.5GB
3.5GB
>3.5GB
>>343293619
there are people who use vga and they need to use dvi converter to do that i guess
I've never seen anyone with dvi cable
>>343293619
wait people don't?
I know an AMD drone that has nothing but problems with his AMD setup and hates NVidia since the 3DFX days that will get really mad about this. Here are some tits in a white shirt.
>>343288213
It's still better than the 970 for $200. Enjoy paying $700 for one card, nvidick riders.
>>343293763
poor people probably
and that's exactly who amd is for
>>343294253
>no dick
dropped
>>343288213
so basically they fucked up because they wanted to say that the card uses just one 6-pin instead of doing the sensible thing and putting an 8-pin just in case.
>>343294390
sisters don't have those
Is this one of the biggest GPU blunders in recent history?
How will AMD recover? Will they recover?
>>343294480
i'm my brother's sister and have a dick, so that's wrong.
>>343294514
they literally can't
>>343294072
>not playing everything at 800x600 and getting 100+fps in everything with an HD 7850
These GPUs are a waste.
>>343294253
muh source?
how do you fuck up this bad?
>>343294718
it's astonishing honestly
CAN FUCKING POOINLOOS DO ANYTHING RIGHT?
SERIOUSLY, ARE THEY THIS INCOMPETENT AT EVERYTHING?
>>343288213What does this mean
Is it drawing more power from the PCIe slot than it can deliver because the 6 pin they've used isn't supplying enough?
Can't OEM companies just put 8pin or 2x6pins?
>>343294953
doesnt matter, they have to play ball by pci-e standards or get fucked up the ass
>>343294704
Elizabeth Zaks
>>343295042
Yeah but why is this bad and why is it hard to fix?
>>343295253
I can't think and process information for you, anon
>>343295305
Sorry anon not everyone s from /g/ here
>>343288213
SO fucking glad i got a 390x and put some custom fans on it
FUCK this shit holy crap i dodged a literal housefire
>>343294072
What? You can get a 980 4gb for ~$400 and a 980ti 6b for ~$440.
I was thinking about grabbing one in a month so I can play witcher 3 with hairworks turned on.
>>343288213
If you actually read the thread, you would know it's all a bunch of nothing. The compliance board does not care if it's out of spec. The spec is just meant to be a compatibility thing. Nothing bad is going to happen if you perform out of spec. There's won't be any recertifications, not by amd, nor by pci-sig. Even nvidia would probably side with amd on this one.
ie it's just nvidia fanboys making a fuss out of nothing.
>>343296743
Toms Hardware is an nVidya fanboy?
>it's okay when Nvidia does it
>>343297563
it's asus fault in both cases donkey
>>343297337
That chicken's like, "I really don't want to be here right now".
>>343297563
Strix card go over 75W from the PCI-E slot in short peaks. Sure, that's bad and shouldn't happen and might be bad for your rig, but the average power from the PCI-E slot stays below 75W.
RX480 is well over 75W on AVERAGE. As in, it pretty much never goes below 75W. There's a huge difference between short power spikes and drawing high power ALL THE TIME.
>>343297834
So is your gf
wait
how?
literally how?
>>343298042
>Strix card go
Fuck me, I wanted to write either "The Strix card goes" or "Strix cards go". Forgive me /g/, it's 86 degrees Fahrenheit outside, my brain barely works.
WHY CANT I ESCAPE NVIDIA.
FUCK I WANTED THIS TO SUCCEED SO I CAN GET A GOOD STRONG CHEAP COMPUTER.
ILL BE STUCK WITH THIS DAMNED 560TI TILL I HAVE TO OVERHAUL EVERYTHING.
>>343294253
whos this saucy wench
>>343298190
Drivers are still shit aren't they
>>343298074
Joke's on you.I've never had one.
>>343294897
Why do people wear these shitty shoes? I see women wear stupid fucking garbage all the time then complain they're uncomfortable.
Just get a 1070
Damn
The 480 hype was unfounded to begin with, heck, they recommended running two for more demanding stuff when they announced it, and we all know how trash crossfire is, and how few games it even supports.
>>343298336
Oh just you wait
>>343298354
They do it literally for your attention
>>343298427
But SLI is bad too.
Why can't using 2 cards be good like in the old days where every card calculaded only half a frame
>>343298482
Even if I was a footfag, the stupid design would probably still make me mad.
Consolefag here.
I'm unfamiliar with graphics cards so can someone please explain what's going on?
>>343298559
I'm a footfag and I don't like it. It looks like fucking garbage.
>>343298554
Yeah, SLI is trash too.
But if you get a 1070, and don't plan on running 4k or VR at optimal fps, you won't need two cards to begin with.
>>343288213
Did anything actually come out of this or was it just more "LOL LOOK AT AMD POORFAGS LMAO"
did the pcie cert get revoked or not
>>343298615
Exactly. Someone needs to fucking say it to the public so the retarded recent shoe fashions go out of style.
>GTX480
>RX 480
I'm starting to believe that the number "480" is the code for "housefire" in kabbalah. It's like pottery.
Does a term exist for the equivalent of the console war in the PC market? Why do people cheer for a company like Nvidia?
>>343298854
Nobody cheers they just like misery on both sides
>>343298713
>dat filename
Those aren't too bad, though, they look like normal shoes. The ones I hate are the shitty ones that look like a jungle.Although heels in general are stupid because they just make women walk stupidly and make their feet take weird shapes and get dirty as fuck
>>343293619
>he doesn't use dvi
>>343298854
I have no clue, honestly. I own a 970 and I'd never fucking cheer a company worth millions. They're not in it to make anyone happy or even give a shit about any of the faggots here. Hell, they lied to everyone's face with the 3.5 thing then tried to play it off as though we're retarded.
>>343294390
Fucking poof.
>>343298912
did you copy that most from /r9k/?
>>343299040
Me too. I would never get an AMD card but I don't have anything against others getting one. The reason for shit like the 3.5GB debacle is the lack of competition.
>>343299148
Oh come on, I didn't post a shitty frog or complain about having no gf.
>>343298563
PCIe certified means that the card is compliant with the electrical standards fitted to every single motherboard on earth with a PCIe slot. It can not exceed the standards without putting the motherboard at risk of a power overload, which can literally cause housefires on shitty cheaper motherboard made for OEMs (aka pre-builts, AKA over half of the PC market).
The RX480 failed to meet these specifications by putting too much power draw through the PCIe slot, putting much of the intended audience at risk of some smoky computers.
AMD fucked up again. This is the last straw for them.
>>343298173
we aren't on /g/ right now lmao
>>343298563
AMD decided to only put a 6 pin psu connector on the card, so instead of getting large amounts of power from the psu, it gets lots of power through the pci-e port on the motherboard that the gpu is connected to
basically they're being dumb as usual
>>343299209
But you showed a complete lack of understand why high heels are a thing
>>343299268
So the next batch of card will have 8 pins?
>>343299375
I guess so. I'm not a girl or give too much of a shit about shoes other than the ones I hate seeing.
>>343299247
Aaaand that proves that my brain doesn't work in hot weather even better than a missing "s" at the end of "cards".
>>343299536
>tfw it's so hot you forget what board you're on
Jesus anon, go cool down.
>>343298713
>>343299375
Nope. If you looked at the reference board PCB, there is only a 6-pin mount, no eight-pin mounts. That means redesigning the board, which could take months to recertify and test.
The RX 480 will get gimped instead with some sort of power management system that the Nano had.
Expect sub-970 performance, closer to a heavily overclocked 960 or stock 380X.
>>343295940
>witcher 3 with hairworks turned on
It honestly looks exactly same, you'd need to be some kind of real autist to actually notice it in average gameplay session.
I wanted it to be good. Fuck's sake, AMD.
>>343299930
>looks the same
>Geralt's hair looks like spaghetti
Remember to get the mod that makes hairworks show up for everything EXCEPT Geralt's hair
>>343299268
>AMD decided to only put a 6 pin psu connector on the card
That's not the cause though. While the ATX spec says the 6pin connector can only supply 75W, just like tha PCIe slot, most PSUs acutally allow you to draw a lot more than 75Wfrom it without any problems or danger. There previously have been some non-referential constructions that were drawing more than 150W just from the PCIe slot and a single 6pin connector, but didn't go over 75W from the slot.
The problem lies in the fact that the card itself "decides" to draw too much power from the slot instead of the 6pin connector, and if they don't change that, then replacing the 6pin connector with an 8pin connector won't change anything.
>>343299880
Except this problem is only on few of the cards.
>>343299880
Please stop being dumb.
http://videocardz.com/61687/sapphire-shows-off-radeon-rx-480-nitro
>>343298713
JAZZ HAND
>>343299880
Non-referential cards often have different power connectors than the referential ones. For example, there are GTX960s with 6pin, 6pin+6pin and 8pin power connectors.
>they fell for the AMD meme
>>343299880
>Months to rectify
>Sapphire already mentioned their 480 nitro
Based sapphire
>>343300169
>posting an AIB custom PCB card
You stop being dumb first. I was talking about the reference cards, which are the ones violating the PCIe specification.
>>343300154
And those problematic cards are out on the market right now. There are no AIB cards on sale right now, only reference cards.
>>343299880
That's a huge leap of logic there.
Given that the 480 apparently passed PCISIG certification, and given that they haven't pulled the cert yet(they're usually on the ball), AMD must have made a decent case to them that it's just a "rare occurrence in a few cards". it's likely that nothing at all will happen.
You're just rolling the dice if you stick a 480 into a cheapo motherboard and put load on it, is all.
>>343300390
Not that guy but I think anyone wanting a 480 would probably just wait for a Sapphire one now. That's what AMD-exclusive people usually go for anyway instead of reference designs.
>>343300473
>That's a huge leap of logic there.
It's not. It does take months to retest and recertify any electronics because you have to send them to dozens of organizations around the world for them to give their stamp of approval on it.
>Given that the 480 apparently passed PCISIG certification
The cards AMD sent to get certified did not have the same drivers and firmware that was being put on sale today, that much is clear. What AMD did was send the regulators a compliant card and boost the wattage draw through the PCIe on the consumer version without physically changing their card.
>>343300498
I doubt that AMD will change their reference board design this late in the game when aftermarket AIBs are about to hit the market. This still does not look good for them in the PR world, that's for sure.
>up to 200W through PCI-e slot
>>343300839
Yeah, I agree. It doesn't look good in PR but we all know even retarded marketting can be rectified with some shilling and a couple million.
>>343300839
>The cards AMD sent to get certified did not have the same drivers and firmware that was being put on sale today, that much is clear. What AMD did was send the regulators a compliant card and boost the wattage draw through the PCIe on the consumer version without physically changing their card.
I highly doubt amd would gamble the livelihood of their GPU division with that kind of fraud anonymous.
>>343288213
>linking the page within the thread that contains an analysis that refutes the entire thread's argument
well done
>>343300970
Then you misunderstand AMD, and Nvidia to a lesser extent.
This is nothing new.
i'm so glad im not poor and dumb like AMD fags.
>>343300473
Why would you buy a 480 and not buy a cheapo motherboard?
If you are buying anything from ATI/AMD, its strictly a budget item.
Are you going to buy a $200 motherboard and a $200 graphics card? Of course not, you're going to buy some $60 ECS crap.
>>343300921
That is on spike, which occasionally happen.
GTX960 on the other have have constant spike (around 20 per minutes) that goes close to 300 watt and nobody make such fuss about it.
Also PCI-E compliant is not enforced and unless you have shitty $40 budget motherboard this shouldn't be an issue.
>>343288213
I'm kindly asking you to delete this thread.
NVIDIA ALWAYS WINS BBY
>>343301325
>If you are buying anything from ATI/AMD, its strictly a budget item.
What? AMD and NVidia compete in every price bracket, with AMD usually having better performance all the way up until the toppest of the top tier with the -80ti type cards.
>>343301325
Any quality MOBO shouldn't have an issue with less than 14% extra draw through their PCI-E circuit.
There's ton of $100 range MOBO that have higher spec rate than normal not to mention that any recent MOBO can handle these extra load just fine.
>>343301639
I wouldn't risk my rig with these cards. I mean, I know it's probably safe, but it isn't just worth the risk.
I don't know whether AMDrones or Nintendrones are more funny when they get booty blasted, but I'll take what I can get.
>actually expecting a $199 card to match a 970 without a catch
Not only does it not match a 970, but it also doesn't fucking work
Only AMDfags are delusional enough to think they wouldn't get horribly cucked for $199
>>343297676
its like watching chandler from friends
>>343301886
Tons of GPU in the history have been known to suck more juice out of their PCI-E circuit.
If your board have multi GPU setup then the risk is almost nonexistent.
Your board won't fry or anything, the worst case scenario is system failure.
>still falling for the AMD meme
THEY CHEAP POS CHINEAS CARDO THAT NO WORK
>>343288213
Oh my god who the fuck cares? It still a very good card just buy it you wont regret it.
>>343303602
>TURBOCLASS ENGINEERS SUMMONED FROM THE BEST UNIBERSITIES OF DA WARUDO TO MAKE STATE OF THE ART NECKBEARD RENDERING HARDWARE
>Can't even design pcb draw within the specifications
>Building a new computer this month since my old computer was like 4 years old and the hard drive was failing
>Bought a slew of parts plus a second hard drive for the old computer (Gave it to my brother) except for the GPU
>Wanted a GTX 1070 but this was right when it launched and was sold out everywhere for the first week or so it was out.
>Friend says I should just forget the 1070 and get a RX480
>Consider the idea until I see Nvidia put some more 1070s in stock
>Pop it in a few days later and it runs perfectly
>See this shit now about the RX480 from the last two-three days
>>343293619
what the fuck do you use then
>>343304635
RX 480 is great, it's the best 1080p 60fps card.
But why are you comparing the 480 and the 1070? The 480 is a $200 1080p card and the 1070 is a 400-500 dollar 1440p card. They're in two completely different brackets.
Poo in the loo technology at it's finest.
>>343304770
Because AMDposters have been saying that there's no reason to drop an extra $250 on the 1070 since the RX480 is coming out for the past month now.
>>343298554
you don't need sli though, one 1070 or even 1080 is plenty
one 480x is a fucking joke
>>343299880
J
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S
T
>>343305195
You should listen to what people are actually saying. They were saying that if you game at 1080p 60fps, then the 480 is the card to go with. Because the 1070 is far overkill for that, it's a card that was built for 1440p or 144hz.
>I need a car to drive me to the grocery store once per week and that's it. Should I buy a Ford Focus or should I buy Lotus Elise?
>>343305306
>even
you mean let alone
>>343298354
This particular one is so her feet don't sweat. Yes, I asked.
>AMD fags trying to justify this
Kekekekekek
So what's the meme we can greentext with this like with
>3.5
Also someone make a video with that Mexican guy.
>buy AMD card
>PCIE slot fries
kek, feels good not being poor/
>>343290906
If you're using dvi instead of displayport for high hz youre fucking retarded and deserve your issues.
>>343306041
i won't justify it, i just don't care lol. the aftermarket cards most likely won't have this problem and that's what i always planned on buying.
>>343298713
Why would you wear panties bigger than your shorts?
>>343303602
P-please guys just buy it before our stock craters again.
I have 15 hungry little Pajeets to feed back in India, we don't even have a toilet.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>343306441
why does [company shill]man always wear a winter hat?
>>343306516
He skimped on heating so he's cold when his Radeon™ card stops running.
>>343306516
So he can pretend the tears are sweat
From OP's thread's own source
>>343306832
That's just AMD damage control.
>>343306954
I don't think you're allowed to lie about certifications anon, that's illegal.
>>343306280
this tbqh
>>343306832
so it was a big stink over nothing
nvidiots btfo, like always.
cuckvidia-drones confirmed for failing to poo in our loo.
>>343305459
Some displays change their calibration settings to be more "cinematic" when you connect them with HDMI instead of DVI, because they assume you've connected a video player/cable box/game console. They oversaturate the colors and fuck up everything.
>>343306832
But multiple sources have that problem? I doubt they all just fucked up reading the numbers. So it probably is a bad first batch
>>343306832
>buy AMD
>it's a russian roulette that can destroy your PC
No thanks, poo.
>>343305459
hdmi does not support 1080p 144hz so DVI here i am
>>343306406
Why did you name every single one of them Pajeet, Pajeet Sr.?
I'll probably buy a rx 470
>>343293619
My 2560x1600 monitor is from 2009 and uses DVI only.
>>343290906
b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bbut NVIDIA!!!!!
Every single time, without fail.
>>343305459
>using High Definition Meme Interface when DVI is available
Nvidiots.
>>343288213
OK, will AMD finally dies? If so will Nvidia monopolize the consumer card market and jew us however they want?
>>343291760
>They HAVE to fix it
The design is already out in production with their partners, it's too late to solve it in any way that won't involve gimping the card post-production.
>>343293619
Sure, I use HDMI for my PS3 and DVI for my PC.
>>343307786
>not using display port
FAG
>>343291864
God that AdoredTV channel is such a huge fucking shilljob. I hope he at least gets paid for it.
>>343291760
The cards are already produced.
The only way they can fix it is by throttling the card so it draws less power while lowering performance.
i wish GPU's would stay more ahead of games
this meme of new top end cards barely pulling 60+ on current games with ultra settings on and high end monitors is lame
a high end GPU should blow anything that comes at it out of the water for atleast 2 years
I was saving $250 for an RX 480 but after seeing what a blunder it is I know what I'll be spending it on to get my money's worth.
I guess if you're too poor for an Nvidia+intel PC you should stick to consoles after all.
>>343307908
I think he does now. AMD finally noticed he'd made a nice tool.
>>343291951
Hard for me to get assblasted by things like this since i always buy stuff 2-3 series ago.
>>343298713
whos this fridge
>>343306832
Gee, if you can't supply good GPU's to the market, you shouldn't be in the market, you know what I'm saying?
WHY DO AMD AND NVIDIA SUCK SO FUCKING MUCH HOLY FUCKING CHRIST
>>343308067
your future gf
spoiler alert btw
>>343306832
>only hundreds
Out of how many?
>>343306208
Just do
>75w
>>343308004
true master race is nvidia+intel PC and a PS4, tbqh though, my ps4 is just collecting dust atm
>>343306832
>Only some cards are prepped to destroy your PC, so there's a chance you can buy one and your PC will survive.
>>343308170
fuck off
>mfw upgrading to a 1070 from my 7970 ghz this fall
>>343308184
And WiiU
>>343307216
Basically.
Independent certs gave the standard licensing the OK, so while that doesn't rule out a possible design fault, it does mean that there isn't anything malicious going on, short of maybe questionable quality control.
>>343304747
display port nigga
>>343308337
Remember how independent certs gave VW the OK on emissions?
>>343308551
but that was because VW was cheating, doing some weird change in how the car operates doing testing or something. is AMD doing anything like that? i don't think so
>>343308705
I'm sure people thought it ridiculous to think that VW would be cheating.
AMD just fixed it guys!
https://www.thestreet.com/story/13624880/1/why-chipmaker-amd-just-acquired-a-software-company.html?puc=CNNMONEY&cm_ven=CNNMONEY
>AMD (AMD) has bought HiAlgo, a developer of software tools that improve a PC's gaming performance and image quality, and also prevent a PC's CPU and GPU from overheating while playing demanding games. Terms were not disclosed.
>HiAlgo offers three products: Boost, which makes gameplay smoother and reduces lag; Switch, which can instantly increase a game's frame rate by cutting its resolution in half; and Chill, which intelligently limits a game's frame rate to prevent overheating and increase battery life without hurting a game's performance. AMD suggests it will integrate HiAlgo's technologies with its Radeon Software, which comes bundled with graphics cards based on its GPUs.
And you all were worried.
>>343308551
But with VW they fucked it knowingly
Still they will bounce back, if AMD would have done some shady shit like that knowingly I think they are done and would sell their shit. Which would be bad.
>>343308836
Most of VW thought it would be ridiculous too
>>343308705
Not that anon, but if I make a chip that does things that it shouldn't be doing, there are two options;
I did some houdini tricks to make my chip look less power consuming
My engineering team forked something and it somehow passed.
My wafer supplier is a dork and trying to make me bend over.
>>343301596
>What? AMD and NVidia compete in every price bracket,
show me a single amd card that can compete with a 1070 or 1080 or 980ti
>tfw you bought axbone
>>343309263
FASH
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H
>>343309178
>AMD RX:2 Electric Boogaloo
>>343309263
Jokes on you, the new xbone is going to have a 480 in it.
what are the long term effects of overloading your pci-e slot
>>343302634
fuck off amd
>>343309486
yes
I still don't get the deal.
Will it have exclusives? Lmfao nope the normal Xbone didn't even have any, so will it just play the same games that are on Xbone and PC in 1080p? Will it have Oculus/Vive support? If so it's just a Steam machine.
>>343305989
>Yes, I asked
You're a good man.
>/v/ says its gonna be bad
>decide to wait a day for reviews
>all the reviews point to it being exactly as advertised, a great mid range card that out performs nvidia at a cheaper price
>they shipped TWENTY FIVE TIMES AS MANY as nvidia did 1070s
>its already sold out everywhere and the only places to get them gouge the price by $100 or more
where were you when I learned not to trust /v/ ever
>>343293547
Best guess: at the last second they realized their card was underperforming the 970 and boosted the clocks. Would also explain why they run so hot and why they can't be OC'd past 1.5% without massive artifacting and past 1.6% without dying.
AMD shouldn't have focused on the power consumption meme.
It's a 290 for $200 or a 390 for $240. Great deal, end of discussion.
The 1060 is going to be another gimped memecard with 3GB and crap memory bandwidth.
>>343310395
>Censored.
C'mon anon you can do better than that.
>>343310425
>>343310591
50 rupees have been deposited into your account.
>>343310667
You need to stay pure little Anon
>>343305989
I thought they are going to fight in the arena.
>>343294654
>have a 7850
>can play TW3 on medium 1080p at 30 fps
Haha get fucked richfags
>>343310919
All you've done is making me sad.
>>343310928
Women can't do that. They are the AMD of genders in fighting.
>>343288213
what does that mean ?
>promise a vr ready card for cheap
>deliver a vr ready card for cheap
Apologize
>>343311616
b-but my $800 1070
m-muh nvidia
AMDKEKS BTFOOOOO
>>343310818
>there are people on this board that legitimately think any major company would waste any money on people who come to a polynesian sand art trading board to shill for their product
When did /v/'s head get so big that they think companies give 2 shits about this board?
>>343311768
"I don't have an argument so I"ll use a buzzword in hopes for (You)s"
>>343308184
are you me?
I would play my PS4 some more but I still got to get around to fixing the power supply
>>343311616
>promise a vr ready card
>deliver a card that can barely match a 3.5GB card from two years ago that fries motherboards
nice one pajeet
How did Nvidia trick everyone into caring about the power consumption meme?
AMD should have just put an 8-pin on this card and not pretended it was under 150W.
>>343311843
Reading comprehension a little drab there, sonny?
The 8gb version is 350 fucking euros in my shithole of a country. Fuck.
>>343312020
no I read it just fine please try again.
>tfw all the reviewers having their cards locked to 1080mhz makes sense now
Amd literally locked their card at a lower clock to lower power draw for testing. All those chink reviewers saying their early drivers were locked at 1080 mhz makes total sense now. Fuck amd. I'd take 4gb of slightly gimped vram over something that'll fry my motherboard and kill my pc.
>>343312038
>he believed the $199 meme
it's a classic bait and switch
>>343311768
You're greatly underestimating the amount of people who use this site.
>>343306257
DVI is fine for 144hz. You only need display port if you're also doing something like freesync/g-sync, higher resolutions, or a mixture of the two.
>>343312112
Okay, when the fuck did retards like you start seriously buying into the shill meme?
>>343312262
You are confused. I said that the poster you quoted did not believe what he was saying. You replied to bait. You are the baited. You can't recognize a 12 year old trolling you.
Have a good day.
>>343311456
>more women in the force they said
>its a good idea they said
>>343311768
>waste any money
Do you know how cheap it is to find work on that?
The average person would have no trouble affording a few internet shills let alone a whole company.
>>343312361
>pretending to be retarded
>>343311958
>barely
It clearly beats a 970 at 1080p and annihilates it at 1440p
It has yet to do anything harmful to a MB and that is literally a non-issue considering the custom cards will be 8pin.
India: 1
Israel: 0
Man AMD drones will defend literally anything holy shit.
>>343310340
To my knowledge, the long-term effects aren't so much an issue as the short term effects. Standards dictate that motherboard makers have to supply at least 75watts to the slot, so the problem becomes if you've got a manufacturer that gave the bare minimum(in which case the system will probably shut down), or one which provided an extra allowance. The slots themselves are actually rated pretty high, pcie3.0 can sustain something like 300 watts.
>>343306338
Because boyshorts are literally the best panties.
>>343291951
>Manly tears installs RX 480 for a cuck.jpg
So the reference is shit. Will the aftermarket cards fix this problem or is the 480 doomed forever?
>>343312546
>Rise of the Tomb Raider DX12 aside, the RX 480 manages to effectively trade punches with GTX 970 at 1440p - perhaps down to them both using a 256-bit memory interface.
They're neck and neck at 1440p with digital foundries benchmarks showing they're both within 1-4 fps of each other in 7/8 games tested. How is that annihilation?
>>343293619
>>343306257
So someone mind summerizing the difference in Monitor connects? And what's best for what?
>DVI, VGA, HDMI, Display-port
>>343313038
Aftermarket will probably fix it with 8 pin power connection, never buy reference
>>343313038
Outlook hazy, ask again in two days once smart overclocked have figured out if the card is just power and temperature limited, or architecture limited.
If it's just power and temperature, theoretically aftermarket cards could fix things.
>>343312118
Don't give Nvidia any more ideas. They already think we're retards who are okay with 3.5
>>343313215
http://videocardz.com/61687/sapphire-shows-off-radeon-rx-480-nitro
8pin and DVI port. It should fix any issues the reference cards have.
>>343313580
Based sapphire
Is it just me or has sapphire released the best aftermarket amd cards every gen?
>>343313089
With 8gb of vram, the 480 will continue to chug at 1440p while the 970 falls sharply.
>>343312739
Oh, also really old pcie slots(1.0/1.1) can't sustain that so those would be at risk of actually frying. I don't think anyone is still using motherboards from 2006 though
>>343313836
If it doesn't burn down your house before then lel.
>>343313215
>Picture
Since when do gondola have arms?
>>343290906
>too late for a recall
No its not too late, Amd is just too poor to handle all those refunds. They also don't wanna admit they made a mistake.
>this AMD drone attempting to detail the thread by constantly posting semi nude/eceleb women webm that aren't even VIDEOGAMES
Holy shit kill yourself new cancer
Do your job jannie
>>343313836
You literally just confirmed what I said. Your own graph shows a 4fps difference between them both at 1080p and 1440p. You seem to forget that this is stock vs stock and there isn't a single 970 you can buy from anywhere currently that uses stock clocks. Even shitty reference designs from msi and Zotac which are piss cheap have at least a 20 mhz overclock to base. And those cards are currently cheaper than a 480 where I am. Hell, even aftermarket cards with good coolers like the Zotac and evga superclocked are currently cheaper for me to buy than a 480, which is reference and which also has 4gb (8gb is even more expensive).
Aftermarket > reference
Cheaper, faster cooler > expensive, slower, hotter.
Not to mention that the 480 can't overclock past 4% on average. Just accept that the 970 is the better deal for a lot of people outside of America right now.
>>343314625
Derail
Goddammit.
>>343305989
>Yes, I asked
Yeah, just like they tell you that they are wearing yoga pants because it's """"comfortable""". Lets get fucking real there, they are doing it for attention.
>>343314740
soiled it
>>343308184
>owning a PC
>when the PS4 has all the good (read: Japanese) games exclusively to it
>when the PS4 has just seen more worthwhile exclusives than the entirety of PC's life in just a single E3 presentation
PC is worthless chicanery. PC gaming is a scam where publishers are ready to fuck you over with shitty, broken ports, and delaying the PC version almost exclusively. You need to buy 300 GPUs every two years because they either burn out or are gimped via software. Not to mention, you absolutely NEED to buy a PS4 just to play the good games on it, none of which are on PC.
So what's better? Paying $1,000 dollars to play poorly optimized, broken, and abandoned console ports, or playing 300 bucks to play the same games, as well as being the only place where you can play some of the world's best games?
>>343315004
Back in my day baiting was more subtle. Trolling used to be an art form. You're not even trying.
>people are losing their shit over overpriced graphics cards
>whose only use is to play fucking CONSOLE PORTS
>not actual exclusives, or anything decent
>but jerking off over who can play shit like Crysis 3, The Division, or Hitman
>>343314646
>And those cards are currently cheaper than a 480 where I am
Maybe I'm not looking at the right places but I've never seen a 970 drop below $300.
>>343315004
When a PS4 can play every NES/SNES/N64/GCN/GB/GBA/DS/3DS/PSP/PSV/PS1/PS2/DC/etc etc etc, AND is backward compatible with every game ever released for PC, I'll consider it.
>>343312739
Yeah 300 watts from the slot and two 8 pin connectors. Not just from the pcie slot.
>>343315312
>muh bait
Investing in PC is literally a waste of money. Even spending thousands to fill up a pool with thousands of gallons of coke to drown a $2,000 drone is a more sound investment, at least you make that back with YouTube money.
>>343315480
>PC is so fucking worthless it NEEDS to emulate console games
>PC games are so shit nowadays, they have to play old games
No wonder PCfags shit themselves when based Japan decides to humor them by porting a game older than they are.
>>343315723
>>343315004
50 rupees have been deposited into your account.
>>343315474
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-3979-RX
>>343313146
DVI is best
VGA has literally been for poorfags the past 10 or so years
HDMI is for casuals
Displayport is the HD-DVD of video cable technology
>>343316104
>someone isn't falling for snake oil
>poorfags
The only real issue with VGA is the limited resolution support. Don't tell me you're going to play games above 1080p when most console ports are designed to be played at 900p.
>>343288486
Finally got an upgrade from my shitty AMD setup last night. I ended up getting a 6700k and a Hero VIII with water cooling. My AMD setup use to run at 70°-90°. New setup maxes out at 50°
>>343316104
DP isn't like HD-DVD at all. It's necessary for free/g-sync, which is rapidly gaining in popularity and is amazing for people (like me) that play FPSes and hate the input lag from vsync/triple buffering.
>>343312429
>Post Reddit memes they said
>Cuckchan isn't dead they said
>>343288213
All those cucks who bought it already will have MB failures in the coming year.
When the fuck is the RX 480 going back in stock?
>>343290856
That's because you need a A10-5800K to unleash the power of these beasts... Don't fall for the muh Intel meme. Just look at those DX12 AoS benchmarks, AMD rules. Don't listen to the ignorant and nvidia shills.
>>343316735
Team green gives the best power consumption, heat output, and performance. If only Sony and Microsoft could work something out with Intel and Nvidia, maybe their consoles wouldn't be so gimped.
>>343318490
No one can say.
>>343292732
>he says no one else has this issue except these certain sites
Dude that was like half a dozen of the most knowledgeable hardware website in the English language... Hardware websites in my language came to the exact same conclusions.
>I bought a 970 instead of a 480
>impatience saves the day again
>>343298638
Why would you do SLI with 1070s? It would be more cost effective just to buy one 1080. The cost-per-frame with SLI is so much higher that it only makes sense to do it with to of the line cards, not to mention the power draw.
>>343288213
holy shit lulz
so glad I went with the 960 jesus christ
BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY
>>343319724
DELETE THIS
>>343297676
I'm listening to gourmet race from canvas curse and it fits this webm for some reason
the fuck
so what does this mean?
>>343319526
Just because the 480 is shit doesn't make the the 960 not shit.
>>343288213
From that same thread, on the same page.
>According to the internet, the PCIE slot pulling over 75w was from 2 reviewers out of 20, of the other reviewers who were shared this information, none were able to recreate the scenario.
>>343299148
That overbite tho
>>343320182
At least it doesnt have amd drivers
>>343293619
im using dvi for extra monitors
>Bought EVGA 980ti
>Have had 0 Issues
Hm... really makes u think...
>>343300297Another shieldbro! how are you doing
>>343319989
Nothing and it's misinformation to boot. Some reviewer's mother board fucked up and he reported it and no other reviewers were able to reproduce the problem. That particular MOBO just derped. /v/ is just being an ignorant mob as per usual.
>>343297676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb2GsazQbkE
what cheap alternative should i get?
i have a GT 630 atm
i'm thinking this ($250 ish)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121926
Ya think we'll ever have a third major GPU manufacturer again?
>>343320958
Would be nice. The current market is a shit show.
>>343314834
Well, everything they do is for attention but it's also probably just because most of them are lazy.
>>343320958
>>343321075
Intel is making grat strides with their iGPUs
>>343308318
Same exact situation here. Also getting a 1440p monitor
>>343320958
Nobody because the desktop market sucks balls.
>>343320958
Impossible. The overhead would be insane and your first iterations will be trash.
Been using my 1080p monitor for both PC vidya and my PS3/WiiU via HDMI. Since those consoles only upscale to 1080, what exactly is gonna happen to the visuals if I try and use them with a 1440p monitor?
>>343290906
It's more likely they'll just update production to 6+8pin entirely
They might've actually already gone ahead and done that, and the current 480's are only being sold to get rid of the stock they produced before they noticed the problem.
>>343321201
Wonder who's keeping Nvidia so rich then?
>>343292732
It's nebulous, nobody else but a few select sites have the issue, but there's more people looking into it now, so we'll eventually find out.
It might just be a bunch of bad cards that went out, might be nvidia shills lying their asses off like they usually do, or it might be a genuine hardware fuckup.
I don't think the hardware fuckup is very likely though, since the card had to be certified during design/production for the pcie spec to begin with, meaning it's already passed the specification testing. It's more likely to be bad cards or lying shills.
>>343321704
>It's more likely they'll just update production to 6+8pin entirely
literally why the fuck would they do that
A: Production for the reference cards is probably already done for good, with the rest to be aftermarket cards
B: It's not the first time a video card has gone slightly overspec, and never before did it need a manufacturing change
C: 8+6 is way overkill, if they were to do it it'd be just changing the 6 to an 8(like all of the aftermarket boards are doing)
>going to college
>cant really get a desktop under the cirumcstances
>decide if im going to get a laptop to at least make it half decent
>find a decent one online
>order
>get emails saying its been updated, should take 3-7 business days
>two weeks pass
>send email asking if theres been a delay
>get email back, one of the parts wasnt in stock, back in stock yesterday
the wait is agonizing.
>>343322231
What laptop? Specs?
>>343321840
That's not the point.
There's no incentive for any other company to try and make inroads into a shrinking market that's completely dominated by 2 companies.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aarontilley/2015/04/09/pc-market-continues-painful-plunge/#51e2832d5643
>>343308170
Can you not read?
He said a couple reviews out of hundreds, not hundreds out of an unstated number of reviews
jesus christ
>>343305409
Obviously the Lotus Elise
>>343310425
/v/ is fucking chock full of nvidia shills, it's amazing
even /g/ is pretty bad, but there's more people who actually know a fuck about tech to counter the shills
>>343311768
This site gets like 40 million pageviews a day
>>343312038
Wait a month or two. The cards are made in new york, bulk shipping takes time by ship, the cards available in europe right now are mostly (probably enitrely) shipped by plane.
Once the larger shipments come in the price should go down (depending on demand)
>>343322416
980m and 17 6700hq
I know i could have gotten a much more impressive thing on a dekstop but ive been living with a complete toaster my whole life so im still hype
>>343322231
It probably doesn't help that i didnt order right from them and ordered from someone else
>>343288728
They got full PCI-E certification. There is only a few samples of the card that consume more power. Probably a production fault by Samsung.
Reminder that Reddit is a shit source.
>>343323193
How much you paying for that
>>343288213
What does that mean?
>>343288213
>>343322093
The aftermarket boards are doing 6+8 pin dumbass
>>343290856
>4
Epic
>>343323363
2k almost exactly. But thats mostly because i added on stuff like microsoft word and windows 7
>>343297676
bouncybouncy
>>343294924
>it's okay when Nvidia fucks me in the ass without lube
polaris
more like
poolaris
:^)
>buying pc parts on release
Just like consoles, you shouldn't.
>>343323717
Jesus christ, I don't think I could stomach that. You didn't consider just making a mini tower at that same performance at half the price?
>AMD CPU's aren't PCI-E 3.0 compliant
>neither are their new GPU's
Jesus Christ AMD
>>343323324
you know what else is a shit source?
my ass
>>343323492
Sapphire is already confirmed to be just an 8 pin. I seriously doubt very many if any will do 6+8 because 300 watts is simply way too much for a card of that class.
>>343324149
Like i said, i would but situations being what they are a desktop literally isnt on the table. I will as soon as i get a half decent job though.
>>343322786
The 480 was probably the most shilled card in /v/ and /g/ history. I don't even remember the 970 being marketed this hard here.
>>343299228
>putting too much power draw through the PCIe slot
Hold on a second
You mean the two pci-e cables connected directly to the PSU weren't enough?
>>343324240
It really is like they're trying to end themselves. So bizarre.
>>343323717
Silly fuckilng billy. There are plenty of tiny cases out there for cheap.
>>343324750
It only uses one 6pin cable
>>343324720
All the cards this year were. Not sure why, everyone invested in VR maybe? I got a 1080 FTW card, but I'm upgrading from a 660ti, no idea why people with recent cards were going crazy.
>>343288213
I love these threads.
We don't know if this is an intentional fuckup to rush a product, or one of AMDs suppliers fucking up and delivering sub-standard parts for those cards.
It is clear that this card stretches the limits of the power supply, and thus lowering quality of the components might bump it above the limit. Maybe GF process is not consistent and some chips draw more power then they should. After all 270 and 260 are binned from the same pool.
What we also can gather, is that the chip might have a significant clock headroom, but it is constrained by power supply. Most likely because AMD is binning higher quality chips for 480X with bumped clocks. So constraining OC headroom on lower end SKU by limiting power supply makes sense.
Overall, this seems to be a PCB/Bios issue and most likely is going to be resolved by either bios updates and/or pcb revision.
All we can gather from this is that it is rushed. Considering that even AMD is selling them to vendors at prices above MSRP suggests they want to establish presence on the market, not sell tons of those just yet.
>>343324750
No. Those are PSU cables. The rail the card sits in also provides power. That is where it is drawing too much power from. And no matter how much power you out into it from the PSU, it will still draw that much from the rail.
>>343324916
I know. Just wasnt an option ;_;
>>343321165
Intel is only improving their integrated graphics for media, not for gaming (it's a side effect mainly). They were bragging about Skylake being able to display in 4k resolution and and native HDMI support, this wasn't for gamers but people who wanted to watch UHD movies on their computer. Same reason the PS4 NEO is coming out, main reason is it supports 4k blurays.
>>343295461
390x strix here. Card runs hot, but I got it for 395 and it was leaps better than my 550ti. It's better to buy a card at the end of its cycle than to risk being an "early adopter ".
>>343325320
You could've just bought some shitty cheap chromebook, or whatever for class, you know.
>>343315351
Can anyone actually explain why console ports are bad? I mean, some ports are broken (Arkham Knight, Dark Souls, etc.) but it seems like /v/ is inherently against the idea of porting, anything not exclusive is shit. Why? That seems like retarded logic. If I'm going to play a game anyway, why not play it at 1080p/60 or higher? I don't get how paying fir the performance you want is supposed to be a bad thing.
>>343325876
It is atavism from times when consoles were not PC-in-box and unreal engine did not have build targets for all consoles.
So games were made for consoles and then hacked and bodged to PC. Sometimes it worked ( like mass effect 2 with load times ) sometimes it did not.
>>343322231
I don't see how college is a detriment to having a desktop. I bought mine before going to college and transported it back and forth between CA and OR with no issues.
NOOOOOOOOO
IT'S NOT FAIR
NVIDIADRONES ARE GOING TO BE LAUGHING AT US AGAIN
OP DELETE THIS THREAD QUICK BEFORE THEY READ IT
I CANT DEAL WITH THIS RIGHT NOW THE 480 WAS SUPPOSED TO SHUT THEM UP FOR GOOD
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>343325590
Basically a desktop in the dorm im going to be in really wouldnt work.
>>343294514
I dunno man, they've been hemorrhaging for a long time
>>343326452
College is a positive. Every college kid I know uses half their financial aid on hardware. Which is only 2 people, but still.
>>343288213
Pajeeeet
>>343288213
>He fell for the AMD meme
>>343326452
Sure, if you go to school within driving distance of your house. I went to school in PA (from CA) and a desktop just wasn't feasible. Either I'd pay an arm and a leg in shipping for every break, or I'd have no computer on breaks.
Of course, now I'm going to grad school in CA and I'm totally getting a desktop.
>>343293750
>>343293763
>>343294301
>>343305459
>>343307245
>>343307368
>>343307786
>>343307845
so I'm the only one in here using display port, nobody has gsync in here, is this real life?
>Make a $200 card that is as "powerful" as a 970
>It's actually shit
When will both Nvidia and AMD stop making blunders?
>people are celebrating that nvidia's only competitor is hemorrhaging
noice
>>343288213
Fuck you just had to go to leddit to find out that tom's hardware doesn't know how to test shit and made false claims. Stop spreading your false information retardo.
>literally all the console kiddies / shitposting anime avatarfagging cancer come out later in the thread saying LOL PC ISNT WORTH INVESTING IN LOL PC IS A WASTE OF MONEY
Like clockwork, come late, post incoherent ramblings and piss poor math logic.
Can't hear you over all what I actually DO with my PC just besides videogames. Running Vegas/Premiere editing, watching videos at the same time, some minor music production in Ableton/FL (mostly trying my hand at synthwave), making a lot of simple windows bat, powershell, gwin/bash (emulator) and js scripts for various different projects and personal use.
Cool memes.
Also,
>shitposters with file.jpg or image.jpg
Third world IE/Opera posters and Apple iPhone shitters, lol.
I also have a 144Hz monitor as well, and run most games at 120Hz (because I have a 780Ti I bought before I got my monitor and the Ti only has 3GB VRAM, gonna upgrade eventually to maybe a 1080Ti if I feel its right, or still wait for a midrange card to drop further or the next gen off in a year and a half, idk).
Shitposting, shitposting everywhere!
>that 960 deflection
It's the ASUS version only, btw, other third parties of the 960 do not have the overwattage issue like the ASUS 960 Strix bullshit, unlike where this is with REFERENCE designs of the AMD 480, lol.
>>343329696
Dude, apple invented multitasking with ios9 on the newest ipad^tm. You can't do that shit on a PC.
>>343329782
>^TM
Take the extra thirty seconds to google "TM ascii" m8
I got you, famalamadumbzams™
>>343328964
>gsync
nvidtards everyone
how much would you pay for a gtx 480? friend offering one.
>>343331454
>gtx 480
>fermi
Literally nothing.
>>343325087
holy shit objective information in a fucking thread, what the shit are you doing here
I have a 670 GTX and I'm willing to replace it with a revisioned version of a 480, with all the bugs/mechanical stuff ironed out. cunts gouge the prices though here in europe. thinking of importing it
>>343331578
>cunts gouge the prices though here in europe.
You tell me. I almost sold my 290 for this one, hoping to cut on power usage, because at load my machine boils my balls ( 140W cpu + 270W gpu ). But, as I mentioned, AMD sells those cards at inflated prices in EU.
>>343332372
>AMD sells those cards at inflated prices in EU.
Its fucking frustrating. Why am I supposed to pay 120+ euros extra for a 8gb version?
>>343290906
>nVidia fucked up as well - the 1070 and 1080 cards are not fully supporting D-DVI spec
Stop telling me these lewd things anon ^#_#^
>>343332572
Limited availability? Maybe they want to off load the first revision somewhere where it's not going to be so difficult to handle? Early adopter tax?
I dunno really. I want to switch to 3440x1440 screen soon, so I was eyeing the 8 gb version, but at current prices, well, I'll wait.
>>343307650
there are people that still use VGA
>>343332868
Well they did say they would have 'more than enough supply' but still, with the euro so close to the dollar you'd think it would be cheaper
>>343331454
Nothing.
I remember some time after 7850's release, GTX 480 went on sale on newegg for a fairly long time. It cost $200, and had comparable performance to aftermarket 7850s (prior to overclocking) that cost some $20-30 more. There were people on /g/ thinking it was a good deal. People bought the card. People told others to buy the card.
It was pretty fucking embarrassing.
>>343333489
That's totally the card that brought about the housefire jokes, isn't it?
>>343328964
you won't be for long. displayport is the display adapter for the future so usage will only be rising with time. hdmi isn't "bad", but it's and older standard and displayport supports higher resolutions, higher frequencies, and higher numbers of display adapters on the same gpu. there's a reason all cards are shipping with displayport now, it's just that hardly anybody has started using it yet. hardly any stores carry displayport cables yet (you'll never find them in a brick and mortar) and not many displays support displayport yet either, but it's really only the beginning of displayport's adoption trend
>>343307786
DVI is a very outdated technology reaching the end of its relevance. while hdmi supports higher specs than dvi, displayport supports even higher specs than either of them. dvi can't support the higher resolution and refresh rate displays that are and will be coming out; you'll have to start using display port in the future. this isn't a trivial "amd vs intel" thing; display is just a newer and far better specced technology with plenty of growth room to support future displays that DVI doesn't really have
1. This isn't a issue
2. It's overblown
3. It will not kill your motherboard unless your motherboard is 10 years old and was bought for 2 dollars but any gpu would kill that motherboard
4. It's a great card for a gamer wanting a cheap card that gives good fps in all games and is good for future proofing in terms of DX12. 970 is a meme card that's built on old technology.
5. Why the fuck do you guys want Nvidia to be dominant? For all of our jewposting you sure do support the biggest jew in the gpu market.
Where the fuck can I buy it? Every single one on Newegg and NCIX is sold out.
>FEMALES IN CHARGE OF ANYTHING
LMAO
M
A
O
>There are people in this thread who don't use Display-port
Lmao'ing at your lives.
>>343334430
>a issue
>>343313146
>dvi
fine for 60hz 1080-range displays
>vga
legacy. avoid when at all possible
>hdmi
higher data transfer rate than dvi. can transmit video and audio signals. supports up to 1080p-range at 120hz and 4k at 60hz depending on the version of hdmi implented, can support multiple video and audio streams depending on version implemented.
>displayport
even higher data transfer rate compared to hdmi. can support (depending on version implented) 8 1080p 60hz video streams simultaneously, stereoscopic 4k at 120hz, up to 8k at 60hz with color subsampling, supports many types of additional data streams (usb, audio, etc)
>>343334430
AMD has been and always will be trash. It's forever the poorfags choice. NVidia at least works with developers so thier drivers aren't shit.
>>343288213
I am assuming that if the 480 had one 8-pin connector, power draw issues relating to the pci-e bus wouldn't be such. The only downside would be that the card would surely draw more than the rated 150w tdp, right? But how much higher?
What would be the next highest TDP AMD would be justified in bragging about that would enable them to put an 8-pin on the 480 and thus avoiding the debacle? Maybe they shouldn't have given two fucks about harping on per/watt and just stick to their guns regarding $/perf.
Seems like they took a great card that delivered solid 1080p performance and tried to tack on more 'pros' that ended up hobbling the card in the long run.
Is this a stupid assessment?
if you have a decent motherboard (most of you do) this is a non-issue.
shill less.
>>343335734
perf/$ *
>>343335747
heh that's right i bought AsRock so i'm covered. feels great to buy high quality products
>>343335912
>high quality
>amd
BIOS update will fix it
So does this impact performance or is this just hardware standards specifications that make no difference?
>>343290614
no, they did not.
>>343293195
top fucking lel
>>343294693
>>343294253
![amd-splits-in-two-meet-rtg-or-radeon-technologies-group-491346-3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BVxgBgc.jpg "amd-splits-in-two-meet-rtg-or-radeon-technologies-group-491346-3[1]")
POO
>>343336523
It means it's not guaranteed to work with your motherboard.
>>343319250
>tfw bought a 970 in a year and a half ago
I still have no reason to upgrade until I get a new monitor.
>>343337073
970 was one generation ago, wait a few before you jump shit at least
>>343312962
>manly tears
What year is this?
>>343331578
>>343325087
some of the wrongest posts concerning "objectivism"
>is it due to one of AMD's suppliers?
No, this is reference from AMD itself, to fucking review websites. They own the goddamn foundries, you dumbasses.
Two
>It is clear that this card stretches the limits of the power supply,
No, it stretches the PCI-E standard of 75W minimum power from the motherboard itself, not from a separate rail of 8 or 6 pin.
You people just outed yourself as incompetent, ignorant, and unknowing in the first 3 sentences.
Stop posting.
>>343288213
DELETE THIS
>>343290856
>4 480 to match the power of 1080
>4 480
Enjoy your stuttering games.
>>343334393
Ha ha, I'm on VGA.
>>343291215
And Intel is struggling financially so good luck.
>Nvidia are a bunch of lying jews
>AMD are a bunch of incompetent idiots
WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO GET MY CARDS AT
>1) The RX 480 has passed PCIe compliance testing with PCI-SIG. This is not just our internal testing. I think that should be made very clear. Obviously there are a few GPUs exhibiting anomalous behavior, and we've been in touch with these reviewers for a few days to better understand their test configurations to see how this could be possible.
But leave it to /v/ to get rumors straight from fucking /R/PCMASTERRACE
back to /g/ with you cardbabbies
>>343338010
but that's wrong.
>>343338010
but you're wrong.
Also, since I googled "PCI-SIG" since they're getting a lot of limelight lately (I know who they are, I just wonder how much of a role they want to play in this), and what comes up as the first reply?
I wonder:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4qfwd4/rx480_fails_pcie_specification/
Look at Update 22, 23, and the one beyond it.
Yes, its reddit, but it proves you incorrect.
>>343318798
They get burned when they try.
>>343337396
>They own the goddamn foundries, you dumbasses.
No.
>nvidias recent cards are shit
>amds recent cards are shit
>no game has even taken advantage of cards past 3~ years ago
Here's a question, why should I give a shit and why would you? Why do you exactly require ANOTHER new fucking card?
>>343338702
Its been a while, but I thought the AMD group owned the foundries, unless my brain is really fried. Ill assume Im wrong since I dont want to look it up.'
Also my post mean maximum 75W, not minimum.
>>343338834
b-but what else am I going to spend my money on
b-but I need to defend my brand or else I'll feel bad about my purchase
b-but look at me running this benchmark
>>343338834
>nvidias recent cards are shit
>no game has even taken advantage of cards past 3~ years ago
kek
is this what AMDfags really believe?
>>343338963
Sold off their stake in 2012.
>>343339215
how's that company dick taste like?
That goes for everyone in this thread, AMDolts and NVIdiots.
>>343305934
thats german comedy btw :^)
>>343322453
>http://www.forbes.com/sites/aarontilley/2015/04/09/pc-market-continues-painful-plunge/#51e2832d5643
>No PC Gaming mentioned.
Disregard this article.
>PC Gaming market to grow to $30B by 2018
http://jonpeddie.com/publications/pc_gaming_hardware_market_report
>>343339497
>durr you are just sucking on company dick!
No, I'm just not a delusional poorfag.
Graphics have been coming along, both cards and game implementation.
You have to be delusional to disagree.
>>343293619
I repair PCs for a living, and have done so for over a decade. Plenty of people's PCs use DVI connectors, even today. Most cheap and average LCD monitors from 1999 onwards didn't necessarily have displayport and it would be a long time before HDMI was common enough for most graphics cards and displays to have the port for them. Unless you're an enthusiast who trades in their monitor when newer technology comes out, many people will hold on to their displays until they no longer function. I think of the forty or so PCs in working condition in my home and office, only about three of them have HDMI monitors.
My CRT monitors that I used in my old office network (RIP IPX/SPX) all exclusively had VGA or S-video, with a very rare RCA connector, so we've come a pretty far way in twenty years or so.
>>343313146
DisplayPort is objectively the best for everything (has adaptive sync, HDR, highest resolution and refresh rate support possible) but it's not supported by all monitors.
In practice, the best interface is the one your display has.
>>343288213
This is only a problem if you have a shitty/low end/ASRock Motherboard.
PCIe can supply more than 75w.
>>343337396
You are doubly wrong.
AMD does not own any foundries.
Reference cards are manufactured for AMD by external contractors - such as Foxconn.
If the card is maxed on power demands, and contractors use lower quality power circutry then efficency of the whole card will drop.
Also, there is a spread of efficiency of the chip itsself. This is what causes binning. Some silicon will yield a chip that can do its job at 100watts, some chips will do the same at 120watts. As GloFlo process matures, the chips are going to be of increasingly higher quality - ie - lower power requirements.
This, along with chip size, might be reason why Vega is postponed and/or Polaris rushed. AMD felt confident enough to launch this chip now, but larger, lossier Vega would need - say, 400watts with the current process.
>>343288213
If this was actually a PCI power only GPU
and it has no external power
how can the 480 possibly pull more than the PCI's available wattage?
>>343339634
>However a new wave of TV optimized PCs from Alienware, iBuyPower, and other companies could buck the trend.
>literally talking about Steam machines as a source of growth
"No."
>>343339880
>doesn't matter, just throw all standards out the window!
Kek
AMDcucks, everyone.
>mfw 2560x1080
>love it but
>cpu bottlenecks everything cuz no HT in my 3570
>my 970 is too weak
>980 is too old
>480 is shit
>1070 too expensive/strong
1060 please be good
>>343339765
Sure lad whatever makes you open your wallet.
I am a huge retard. What the fuck is the problem here?
>>343310425
Literally nobody in EU buys them since 970 is cheaper. In stock everywhere. Meanwhile 1070 still impossible to get.
>>343298563
i want to hold this creatures hand.
>>343337956
>Nvidia are a bunch of lying jews
>not knowing they are anti-semantic despite using the jewish practice due to shitty competition, thanks to inept AMD
>AMD are a bunch of incompetent idiots
Buy the shitty card for the sake of Israel... Be a good goy.. i mean guy! heheh....
>>343340335
Shit is dangerous for low end motherboards.
Otherwise there is no problem other than not following the PCIe standards.
It would kill the PCIe slot it uses eventually.
AMD is dead! Long live Nvidia!
This is why I buy Nvidia. It just works. AMD have fucked the gamers for the last time.
>tfw still no good cheap midrange GPU like the 560ti was
Have they fixed this issue yet?
https://youtu.be/cfwjq2KDHJU
>1k tax return should come in sometime this month.
>Finally going to have enough to order the last of my computer parts.
I'm so excited.
I think I'll go with the 1070. It might be overkill for 1080p but it will give me a lot of leeway, especially for when I get a "VR" headset.
>Flight Sims with my Thrustmaster HOTAS 4 and HTC Vive.
Shit's going to be great.
>>343340335
It means the 480 could destroy your motherboard and won't be certified for PCI-e which means AMD will get sued and lose all their money and the 480 will be removed from shelves. AMD is dead. Dead. Dead.
>>343340596
>>343340724
>wanting competition dead
At this point it isn't even company dicksucking, it's just being RETARDED.
>>343340630
>Installing new gen drivers on old gen GPUs
There are people this stupid?
Ok, all memes aside I just want to know something.
Is this something that could happen to non-reference cards? Cause I was planning to get a Sapphire to begin with anyway.
>>343340621
And there never will be.
The 960 proved that Nvidia doesn't even need to be competitive in the midrange and people will still buy the cards.
>>343340817
>competition
>AMD
kek
AMD isn't competing. They exist to ripoff idiots who don't do research before they buy.
>>343320435
Hey, only a 10% chance it's going to destroy my motherboard.
That's the tried and true AMD brilliance right there, a $200 card that puts out amazing 2 year old nvidia performance while also giving that primal thrill of a game of Russian roulette.
>amd
>multicard setups
>anytime
>>343340834
sometimes you have to when new games like Mirror's Edge have driver issues
you're living in the past dude, game ready drivers exist for a reason. Maybe 5 years ago you could not update your drivers ever and be certain new games would work but that's no longer the case.
>>343340867
They could fix the problem adding another 6pin power slot easy.
Or try to make it more effective.
>>343341001
it's retarded that they didn't include an 8-pin connector from the beginning
>>343291864
Updated
>>343340867
No.
The Sapphire Nitro is already confirmed to be using an 8pin connector.
GOT
IT
DONE
>>343340924
yes shecklestein, get rid of the other producers
then you can sheckle the goys for 100MHz increases at a price cost of 900 more dollars each upgrade
>>343340834
>nvidia geforce experience upgrades drivers
>official website while looking for said card drivers shows modern day drivers
>doesn't show any difference on what driver was the last that was okay for said card
yeah stellar A++ work I'll make sure to install every driver until I find the last one that was meant for it.
>>343341261
and yes AMDolts don't get this but the only reason they don't is because their drivers NEVER FUCKING UPDATE
both sides are garbage, voodoo coming back literally when
>>343341105
don't forget the denial of industry progress
i don't know how to put that into image form, though
>>343335003
is the head of amd female?
>>343294031
Nice. But does this bitch flash her tits or nah?
Yeah old as fuck post but damn those tits.
>>343341261
>>nvidia geforce experience upgrades drivers
Only if you tell it to, Jewstein Shillbot. How much does AMD pay you to lie for them? Hope they pay you in motherboards because you'll need many new ones after the 480 piece of shit burns them all out.
>>343341418
Yes. Lisa Su, Asian woman.
>Asian
>Woman
>Company makes shit drivers
Pottery.
>>343339961
"Yes."
http://hexus.net/gaming/news/hardware/91469-gaming-pc-diy-market-will-continue-grow-2016/
>>343341710
You can't play new games with old drivers, they refuse to launch. Stop pretending the drivers aren't meant for older cards, they just fucking downgrade them intentionally so you spend money on the next fotm.
>>343340621
AMD 480
>>343337396
>They own the goddamn foundries
AMD sold all their foundries a long time ago, m8
I wonder how many people will get butthurt because of this image
>>343341710
>not upgrading your drivers
Fuck off Ping Ching, nobody is going to fall for your attempt to keep people on older versions of shit that might have major issues/backdoors/god knows what the fuck
>>343305409
buy a lotus elise because it can still haul groceries at far faster speeds saving you time
>>343341389
>don't forget the denial of industry progress
Send me the article about it or post the pic you like me to add.
>>343340076
>2560x1080
So you decided to go ultra-wide but then chose the retard resolution?
Sell that garbage and buy 3440x1440
>>343342059
>You can't play new games with old drivers, they refuse to launch.
You can stop now.
>>343340963
b-b-but my nebulous, theoretical DX12 multi-card capabilities
>>343341898
Good thing we're talking about accessories and keyboards.
So tell me how mechanical keyboard sales will make it profitable for a company to come in and try and compete with Intel and Nvidia?
>>343341105
>Ashes of the Singularity
I love this game. You can always count on it being the only game shown in 95% of all things discussing AMD performance.
It's like they're funding that game solely for using it as their own benchmark.
if nvidia is so good then why aren't there any modern consoles that use their cards
honest question
>>343342615
Because consoles only use low end GPUs.
>>343342457
>what are gamer focused PC components
>>343342615
Because Nvidia doesn't have an x86 license, so if the consoles went with them they'd need to pay another company for a seperate CPU or go with Nvidia Tegras.
Going for a separate CPU would drive up costs a lot and murder already low profit margins.
Going with Tegras would also be super expensive because only the highest end ones are good enough performance and using them would also turn the console into an ARM machine, not x86
>>343339634
Dunno why you bothered responding.
The only thing going down are those shitty pc pre builts that can't run any games worth a shit and integrated gfx
You know when people ask for upgrades and their specs are literal garbage not fit for gaming. These people were never gonna game on pc in the first place
They'd be better off with a tablet/surface to do their pc stuff.
>>343342615
Because AMD shits out cheaper cards and they also make CPUs
doesn't matter if they're weaker, their price : performance ratio is superb and thanks to that you don't see 599 US DOLLARS anymore
>>343342615
Google APUs.
>>343342919
The reason you don't see 599 US DOLLARS any more is that consoles are sold at a loss and they expect to make up the difference by locking multiplayer behind subs.
>bbut muh powers n shit
wow grats both companies make shit cards REVOLUTIONARY!!
>>343342615
Because companies unlike individuals are for profit and care about things like price/performance.
>>343343424
>480 under 150W
>960 over 225W
so is nvidia just defacing AMD or is the 960 somehow ok?
>>343342312
>confirmed for not trying to launch doom on older drivers
keep talking out of your ass, please
>>343343682
>Doom
Sorry your shit game doesn't work, but my 600+ strong Steam library runs fine on old 353.00 nvidia drivers.
guys im running a 5750, is it time to upgrade? if so what to upgrade to on a budget?
>>343343668
>Official card is a massive power hog
>Custom design fucks up
The 960 draws below 150
>>343320804
those pigtails hnnnnnnGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
>>343342059
>>343342059
>You can't play new games with old drivers. they refuse to launch
Are you actually retarded?
>>343343424
>>343343668
False equivalence, one is a partner design peaking higher, the other is the reference design sustaining higher averages.
>>343343792
>>343344136
proofs??
So is AMD the new house fire meme?
>>343344254
>>343344136 (You)
>proofs??
Fuck, I dunno. Maybe those fucking graphs in the fucking post that I fucking quoted, you fucking fuck?
>>343344651
>New
Did you miss half the R9 series running hotter than Fermi?
Or the Fury X being so fucking hot it had mandatory water cooling?
>>343344945
>343344136 (You)
NVIDIA SHILLS ARE REAL
THEY ARE CURRENTLY IN THIS THREAD
>>343307926
It's because they can better push products if you have to buy a new card every year to stay ahead. Game developers do this shit on purpose.
holy fucking shit
they thought they can just get away with it
>>343292291
>but 970s
i wouldnt wish the 3.5gb meme on my most hated enemy
>>343313774
>first time building my own pc was with a sapphire 9500 pro
Those chinks have always been brettygud tbhfam
>card literally performs better if you tell it to use less power
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38328993&postcount=768
what the fuck amd
>>343346661
I guess AMD really did win.
Its impossible to get better performance with undervoltage. Spread lies somewhere else
>>343346938
If by win you mean pajeet was so dumb he cranked up the default voltage for no reason
>>343306832
>a few rx480s have a small problem on cheapo mother boards "we will fix it"
> every gtx 970 is fucked out of vram "lol fuck you go buy a new gtx"
>>343347071
Pajeet literally bested physics.
He's getting a Nobel for this.
>>343346938
what did they win exactly my little autistic AMDrone? A fried mobo?
>>343315351
this is why i still use a gtx760, because most new games are garbage
>>343347019
undervolting it stops it from power throttling. since card can run at stock speeds undervolted, it means pajeet amped the voltage for no reason aside from melting people's motherboards
>>343347676
I won a free (You).
Thanks for playing.
>>343347934
>Pajeet uses more power than needed to avoid making his technology seem too advanced and threatening for loo users
What a madman
>>343347934
Still doesnt change shit on the fact that undervoltage will bring you better performance. You are not supposed to undervolt at all. AMD is a fucking disaster.
