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Please spoiler your shit
ayylmao
Carlos is literally a fucking retard. Jesus.
10 MONTHS!
FOR NOTHING
Side note, anyone know what the pictures are supposed to represent in the status screen? Most are creepy as fuck.
And I didn't see Phi on them for awhile in the early game...
I literally can't get a copy within 50 miles. What the fuck.
>>343287039
>includes BONUS "playing with GAB" pet simulation minigame!
WHY WAS THAT CUT
REEEEEEEE
>>343287121
Yeah, it seems like Gamestops only ordred just enough copies to sate pre-orders, maybe 1 or 2 copies above that. If you didn't preorder, you pretty much have to either get a digital copy or accept waiting several days for one to be shipped to you via amazon or something.
I drove from Gamestop to GAmestop the very day the game came out and they were all out, so I ended up giving up and just buying it from the eshop.
>mfwnobody questioned why there was a fucking old man in a wheelchair next to them
>the robot's name was Sean all along, Q was the old fart's name lol also he's Zero/Brother/ur mum
What the fuck is this shit?
>>343287284
He wasintroduced before the Decision Game
>>343287264
>mfw I was out running errands and the gamestop guy was out smoking before open, and I asked him if he had copies and I got one for vita.
It was the only one in the store.
[Spoiler]testing spoiler tag[/spoiler]
>>343287264
I preordered TMSFE# but not this. I figured I could wait but I'm expecting to be spoiled if I don't get it soon considering the consistency of these threads on /v/.
>>343287336
Use the camera
>>343287356
ctrl-s you fucking idiot
>>343287336
What the fuck have you been doing the whole time in that room, retard?
>>343287356
Quick reply, highlight text you wanna spoiler, control S.
>>343287336
You need acameracheck thething with the monitor
>>343287397
Digital?
>>343287420
>>343287426
I have been using the camera. It isn't doing shit no matter where I point it.
>>343287449
You can't even get to the sky room without already shooting a bunch of keys.
>>343287449
You can't get the background without it. He's just mentally handicapped.
>>343287420
>>343287426
Can't ctrl s on mobile so I was figuring out what to type I had a capital s cause of auto correct
>>343287492
>not owning your games
>>343287495
Then you're being a retard and not doing it right somehow.Do you have water in both containers?
>still not even a shipping day from amazon
That's it, I'm pirating this shit.
>Those SHIFTING shenanigans with Carlos
>Listen Akane, we're gonna protect you with our bodies and...we will die
>THE FUCK?!
Edgypei is truly the best.
Does the fragment selection change depending on what you vote for the execution or is it just a way to get the X-passes from other teams and you always have the "tie plan worked" flowchart?
>>343287572
Yes, you can see that. Using the camera anywhere on that screen just gives me the "it's not right" shit, and I've tried zooming out and using it in the room too. If I put the camera away and examine the stuff it just keeps throwing that same message at me.
>>343287730
Did you maybe already take the picture and you're just stupid?
>>343287707
You need all the executions
>>343287730
Then you just need to gitTHE RIGHT PIXEL. No, seriously, try to visualize a straight line from the star through the objects and click around there.
>>343287797
No, faggot.
>>343287836
How the fuck am I meant to line it up when that screen won't even let me move the camera?
>>343287876
Well you seem pretty stupid, since you've managed to break this puzzle in a way no one else has, as far as I can tell.
No one even has trouble with it, it's literally the "here's a free one to make you feel special" part of the room.
>>343287876
Keep trying. If I remember right this is pretty bullshit.
>>343287876
On your screenshot you don't have the camera as active item.
I sure hope you're not still trying without it.
So zero was with q team the whole time? Is there going to be a fourth game now?
>>343287060
not really, if that didn't happen then the second game wouldn't happen and then this game wouldn't happen
>>343288143
Yes.
No.
>>343288143>So zero was with q team the whole time?
Only one time he is not. And that is when he placed their bodies next to the door in the VLR ending.
>Is there going to be a fourth game now?
HAHAHAHA
Pushing the big blue button was so fucking unintentionally funny
>>343288081
I spent a good ten minutes trying both with and without it before posting in the thread. I also already said that I've been trying to take photos of it in both that screen and the room screen in a previous post.
Why the fuck didQ team leave delta/Q behind in the escape where sean runs back?
>>343288248
It was amazing
>>343288286He is chained in a way that they had to kill Gab to get him free.
>>343288248
What does happen? im too much of a pussy to push it, and the flowchart only showed 1 circle.
>>343288342Literally everything blows up
>>343287578
Did you preorder the watch edition? My regular is supposed to come today.
>>343288332
>Kill old dog that's about to die
>Leave a crippled blind deaf man to starve to death
Jesus christ. Option A is the correct one, guys.
>>343288248
This is the best fucking ending
Blick-Winkel here, stream will take place next week on Friday, usual time.
>>343288414Well they probably had to cut off his head too.
>>343288403
Yep, a year ago. Bough a gift card to pay fully way before release too. Only thing that sucks is having to star over once I get the actual game.
>>343288414At least Dogbert is functional.
>>343288528
Still. Theyleave both. Cruel.
Epic.
>>343288661
Kyle is there.
He's the dog. That's why Sigma feeds him when he should keep the food to himself. He is needed to deliver messages.
So Phi was her own adoptive Mother, or at least OldPhi got BabyPhi out of the transporter in 2008It's never revealed who ? was at the end of VLR. Delta is ruled out as he can't jump. Sean is an amnesiac, which would explain the lack of memories, but is implied he can only jump due to the quantum computer, so can only jump to things connected to it. Carlos jumps a lot, but is never shown jumping to Kyle, and probably can't jump to a body that isn't his own.
Best (un?)intentionally funny moments.Pushing the big blue buttonCarlos punching grumpy Jumpy and him tumbling down the stairsPhi inazuma kicking Delta in the face
>>343288752
Nice headcanon.
>>343288661
I finished both games 100% and I also wondered did they ever explain the purpose of kyle ?
>>343288248
PUSH THE FUCKING BUTTONSigma was right about everything else though, like shooting the gun, drinking the antidote, using the transporter, and running away from the bomb
>>343288804>Headcanon
>Q team has a whole slohck about if you'd notice if you had your memories wiped and if you were an animal
>Dog is incredibly intelligent
k
>>343288879
No. He was literally, literally only mentioned by Sigma once when he was stabbed by Mira.
Uchikoshi botched the ending and now people are in denial and trying to fill in plotholes with their own headcanons like this guy
>>343288897
>>343288752
So, right near the beginning, they see the dog and
someone comments about the necklace, saying they "took the medicine out", and that it was "mean", what the fuck does that mean? Q's medicine maybe?
quickly making my way through VLR, whats the best version of ZTD?
>>343288986
Is that even a question?
PC.
>>343288986
Pc (if it works)>Vita>3ds.
>>343288775Carlos suddenly acting out of character and mounting AkaneTEN MONTHSSLEEP WITH ME SIGMA
and of courseBUT YOU PICKED BETRAY LAST TIME
>>343288775PENALTY PENALTY>robot about to kill them because team C cheated>will he shoot them down with a in-built gun or will he blow up?>nope he start beating the shit out of them instead
>>343288775
>Best (un?)intentionally funny moments.
I think thatRobo-Sean beating the fuck out of C-Team tops the list. Couldn't stop laughing when he started running like Naruto
>>343289086
>BUT YOU PICKED BETRAY LAST TIME
what if you picked betray the first time then jump back?
>>343289139WTF even was the PENALTY? There was no rules against shifting.
It's been years since I played the last 2 games, is there a page somewhere with just a concise plot summary of what I need to remember to jump into this one or am I gonna have to just binge the wiki for a couple hours?
>>343289249
Using an X-Pass when the person linked to it hadn't died yet.
>>343289249
They tried to escape early, pretty clear rule violation to me
Explain to me how the monty hall situation with just the 2 lockers is not 50/50.
i want to fuck phi
>>343288970
Uchi didn't botch the ending. Kyle was always meant to be a teaser, not some Ever17 shit.That headcanon is insanely stupid though.
Well fuck
>>343289357
http://www.grand-illusions.com/simulator/montysim.htm
>>343289357
there are 1000 doors and only 1 of them has a prize.
You pick door 483.
Will you really go with the 1 in 1000 chance you had that the prize was behind door 483?
>>343289357
Because the 8 lockers that open must be empty, the probability when picking a random locker is skewed toward switch.
>>343289345
>>343289346Here are the rules, directly from the game's files. Tell me which one(s) they broke.
The X Door in the lounge is your only means of escape.
X door can only open once, for 30 seconds. After that you're out of luck.
Six X passes must be inputted for the X door to open
Every death reveals a single X pass
That means six people must die for the x door to open
The last one seems like a result of the rules, not a rule itself. It's worded like that too.
>yfw you pushed the button
>>343289430
I always fell that way too ?? felt so out of fucking place in that game honestly, also the dog thing is a joke dude it's been going on in these threads for a while
>>343289037
>>343289048
Ok cool, also looks like the cheaper option thanks to it being digital only.
>>343289617
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
>>343289357
Probability of you picking the correct locker: 1 in 10.
Probability that the mask is in any of the other 9 lockers: 9 in 10.
>>343289459
I did that simulator 50 times with varying combinations and techniques and the car was literally on the left door 100%
>>343289357
Assuming you pick door 1
Door1 Door2 Door3 Stay Switch
Prize Empty Empty Win Lose
Empty Prize Prize Lose Win
Empty Empty Prize Lose Win
Therefore switching is more favorable and is clearly not 50/50
When I pull the trigger in the incineration room on Sigma, is it random if he dies or not or am I missing something from another flow branch, he got killed when I did and it gave me a bad end
I wanted more phi god damn it instead I got a shit ton of fucking eric
[sppiler] they could have replaced sean with left and the story would have been the same. I just realized that when Uchikoshi said ztd was made more accessible for new fans he meant that they were dropping most of VLR's arcs[/spoiler]
>>343289698
>>343289797
The door is on the left side, yes.
But the simulator picks a random choice, you're supposed to run it 1000 times
>>343289797
>Cheat
Let me tell you a good thing, /v/.
>>343289840
Lol that fuck there. Welp not much I can do now. Still stand by what I said
>>343289898Why did Delta kill Gab? Just to fuck with them?
>>343289784
I know right. People are raving on Phi, but she did nothin in this game. I did love Eric though.
>>343289840
>[sppiler]
ctrl+s
Is there a youtube vid ofPENALTY PENALTY NARUTO MODE ENGAGEanywhere? Can't find one
>>343289898
DELETE THIS
>>343289898
D end 2 was sadder because they were all left to starve to death.
>you know that biscuit I gave you... that was the last one
>>343289727
Yeah it's random. You just need to get lucky
>>343289727
It's random.
>>343289586
Also, please put "ZTD" in OP next time, i ain't gonna type anything more than 3 symbols into catalog search. TY
Brother did nothing wrong
>>343289898He still has the smuggest face in the world while dead
Game was fantastic until the last 3 hours.
What a fucking disappointment of an ending.
Uchikoshi went full Danganronpa.
So to those who have finished.
I enjoyed it, and don't mind things being left a little open and up to your own interpretation. But I think I would have preferred an epilogue that's a little more in depth than a few files with it being the final game. What do you think?
>mfw everyone complaining about being unable to get a copy when I'm playing it comfy on my hacked n3ds with a cia from eshop
>>343289357
It is.
>>343290262
I would have preferred closure and no plot holes left, but we didn't get any of that.
Not to be a memelord, but the blue button countdown scene where Phi and Sigma were arguing reminded me of the Glados/Wheatley press the button scenes in Portal 2.
>>343290262
Yeah files would have been nice but Im sure a new Q&a will happen that will answer
>played all night and now stuck late game 15 hours in
What a fucking ride, going to reorganize all my notes during the day and play again at night. I'm probably going to be stuck for a while but I wont give up with my husbando, carlos at my side.
>>343290347
We did get epilogue files man. I'm saying I want more than that. If you haven't read them though, go do that.
>>343289357
>>343290302
Oh wait, I understood you wrong. I thought you meant with 2 Lockers in total. With 10 Lockers it is:
>>343290402
they arent really enough, specially since D team wasnt even on them, the team I was actually curious about. I was thinking more of VLR style files
>>343290460
I guess D team would have added even more complexity to the situation, since they'd have probably gone on to make even more little Phis and Deltas.
So I guess brother was a 169 year old man in VLR just because?
I know the mementos arePhi's pendant and the little birdcagebut what exactly do I need to enter here?
I stayed up all night playing this and I don't want to sleep until it's done.
God help me if there are more puzzles though, I'm getting retarded.
>>343290262
I don't know how I should feel about the entire 3 game series resulting fromone major bootstrap paradox introduced in the last game's final portion.
>Incinerating PhiThat hurt so badly.
>>343290609
Super genes and ayy lmaos transportation
>>343290634
brooch and music box
>>343290609
Because:He, K, Clover, Alice and whoever "?" is all hang out and exist outside the creators attention.
>>343290634brooch and music boxDon't listen to blue bird faggots
So, just finished the first vote with all three teams and spread out the votes so that everyone survives for now. Where do I go now, am I supposed to randomly try those story segments? I would prefer to just start at the top of the flow chart, though.
>>343290634try Blue Bird
supposedly Music Box works too
>>343290701
Go rig the votes so everyone dies
>>343290653To be fair, 999 was a bootstrap paradox as well.
where did Radical-6 even come from?
Brother just had it in his shelter because... yeah?
Old man always being thereis the stupidest shit out of the ass in the whole game. Such bullshit.
Even in the sequence where he is revealed, when you don't type his name, he's then NOT shown in the place where he should've been (near Gab), however he was shown there if you did type in his name. wut
O U T O F A S S
T E N M O N T H S
Just finishedwhat the hell did Phi do anyway?What was the shower stuff with Eric?Why does Sigma get such a terrible life?
>>343290867
Basicallynothing is explained.
was it all for nothing? the world still got infected with radical 6 on another time line, it still happened why even try when we know this happy timeline would happen anyway since it's the opposite of the other? why even bother
was zero the second a good villian?
>>343290932
So that atleast one timeline goes another way.
In the Bio rooms when you have to input three liquids into a machine isn't the order Green Purple Blue like the numbers in the pills tell you?
I'm slighty colorblind so I might be screwing it up
>>343290943
No. Literally Dio and Ace were better because they weren't last minute asspulls.
>>343290701
just go through all the options possible so you have the maximum amount of unlocked routes
D > C > Q
>>343290867I assume he made it using his vast wealth and power to kill the terrorist. Kill 6 billion to save the remaining 2.Although technically it was to kickstart the VLR timeline, which is required for the whole decision game thing to work.
The entire the thing can just be summed up with 'All according to keikaku'.I bet Delta put that bastard snail there as well.
>>343290932
Akane wanted to timejump to this happy timeline and marry his Jumpy, but I guess they couldn't SHIFT to timeline E because it didn't exist, so they had to create it.
Basically, Akane is just a selfish bitch.
>tfw wanted Sigma and phi because shipping shiteven after the reveal I still wanted it
>asspull
GuysWe are literally viewing the whole game through Delta's eyes. It's Sigma all over again.He's just aimlessly wheeling himself around the room getting cinematic shots while everyone else is having hard boiled emotional conversations.
>>343290741
True, but that one made more sense thanks toAkane's morphogenic field shenanigans, glimpsing into various possible futures and how she'd have to make that paradox occur. Prior to that initial crisis, nothing was required for her to exist.
Instead we gotcreepy old man voyeur can read the shifters minds so hard that he might as well be a shifter himself. He's not glancing at potential futures, he's just reading over the shoulder for other field users. And he only exists in the past due to a very specific future with an alien macguffin machine.
>>343291160
Me too. Too bad Uchi dashed our hopes in that Q and A, and also made the parentage reveal a bit too obvious, in addition to the eyebrows and all.
>>343291160
They've always had more chemistry.Sweaters a hot though.
>>343291310
>and also made the parentage reveal a bit too obvious, in addition to the eyebrows and all.
It really was too obvious
>Loved 999
>Played VLR the day it came out, wasn't as good as 999, but still excellent
>ZTDstarts amazing, turns into an abortion, only redeeming part being PENALTY PENALTY
I'm dissapointed.
I rememberUchi saying that Clover was going to be mentioned in ZTD and she fucking wasn't
>>343291175
>that blind deaf old man that still manages to follow everyone around
>that old man that is just rolling around during puzzles
>that tenth participant that is ever ever mentioned
>that "free x-code" old man
anything else?
>>343291310
>and also made the parentage reveal a bit too obvious, in addition to the eyebrows and all.
It was another Dio. He made it so obvious that most people would think it was a red herring, but then the surprise is that it's not.
>>343291491
But anon there's clearly a bitch that helps you in this game
>>343291491
Snake too :(
>>343291508
>he only ever dies in sync with Sean
>>343291508
>>that tenth participant that is ever ever mentioned
but that'sSean
WHERE ARE THE PUZZLES
I'VE PLAYED FOR 2 HOURS AND NO PUZZLES
WHAT THE FUCK
>>343291629
sean cant die so everytime q was on the board was because q was dead
Anyone noticed when Akane explained to Carlos and Junpeithat SHIFTing requires the user to be in danger? But after that she SHIFTed at will and chased after them after they get shot by miniguns.
did zero the second ever call his game the nonary game? Did sigma, junpei and akane just assumed it was the nonary game?
>>343291665
The puzzle density vs time graph is a complete bell curve, enjoy the 6 hours of no puzzles at the end of the game.
>>343291692
I know he can't really die, unless the computer goes caput, I mean a body concidentally goes kaput each time Q would die.
>>343290062>Sigma thanking gab for staying with them and listening to his shit
>>343291508
It's uber realisticYou wouldn't want to recognise that this retard is around the whole time or even make eye contact because it's so uncomfortable to look at. It's like if Helen Keller was taking part in the game
>>343291746
the DECision game, with an X door, with10people
>>343291693
she was always full of shit, that's also why all her "what hapenned to you, junpei" and "how could you Junpei?" dialogues fell flat
>>343291693
Did you play 999 or VLR? I vaguely remember that Akane can shift anytime she wants.
>>343291852
oh fuck
>>343290983
The pills are for something else
Try the microscope
>>343291886
I did. But it's been a long time, can't remember all the details.
>>343291852
Oh this is good.
Phidid she actually do anything or was it more just "She's around!" like the last game? Am I missing something?
AlsoWhat was up with the Eric shower stuff?
>>343291828
They at least talk and call outSean. Theold manis literally just there doing nothing ever, totally useless.
Aslo, Q team leader is Q right? Then why is""literally who and why" the kid" doing all the decisions for the team?
>>343291886
Akane didn't fucking shift in 999 and neither did Junpei.
All they literally did was speak to each other telepathically across time
>>343292110
>did she actually do anything or was it more just "She's around!" like the last game? Am I missing something?
to give me a boner and create chemistry with sigma
>What was up with the Eric shower stuff?
what do you mean
EVERYTHING WILL BE ANSWERED HE SAID
>>343292110
Shedid a kick like she was back on the moon, like it's VLR even though that makes no fucking sense at all.
>>343291852
It would make a bigger impression on me if I hadn't experienced that shit ending
>>343292110
X-FACTORShe does nothing but die and making smug comments.
>>343292287
New /v/ mascot.
>>343287623
>his reaction whenit was all for naught
this fuckin guy
>>343292346
Why do you think she is in the OP of this very thread?
>>343292180
The stuff with the lake and the brother?
>>343292110
she had to be there, so they can"resonate" and shift mira and eric at the end
so yeah, she was the resident smug anime girl
You did get the platinum right? I mean its not hard whatsoever
>>343292160
False. Akane did shift in certain 999 endings. Actually, in those endings, she literally shifted both body and mind like the alien transporter.
>>343292464
Please don't remind us of Akane's super special powers that only get mentioned in Q&A.
>>343292464
>Actually, in those endings, she literally shifted both body and mind like the alien transporter.she literally disappeared from existence in those endings, not shifted.
Best honest guysYou thought it was the dog at one point
>>343292442
Of course.
ERIC BEST BOY
>>343292571
How would a dog do it?
>>343292571
Why would Kyle do it?
>>343292632
The question is not how, but WHY.
>>343292464
Akane kinda existed as a Paradox if everything went well she would exist and do all the stuff she did do but if it didn't she wouldn't exist?This game kinda ruins the original.
>>343292632minfhacking
>>343292110
she was there for thefamily reunionscene
;_;
>ayy lmao
why
>>343292524
what was her power?
>>343292703To save 8 billion humans. Good dog
>>343292442
Where do you see this platinum? Is it on the 3ds version?
>>343292828
becauseregular time travel comes with too many paradoxes
Guys how do I know if "ve gotten all possible endings on the 3ds version?
>>343292912
Making my dick erect.
Do I buy ZDT or Danganronpa.
>>343292964
no its an Xbox exclusive
>>343292912
Just he said, Akane can just shift her body and mind into another timeline.
>>343292931
Dogs are the best.
>>343293028
you can just pirate danganronpa, so zdt
>mfwPhi's brooch is a bootstrap paradox
Like pottery
I don't feel bad about pirating this game anymore.
That ending completely ruined the game, and not just that.
It ruined VLR and 999 too.
>>343292828
It's probably just another asspull, don't worry.
what if...Since people sent through transporter are most likely immortal, Delta and Phi from true ending, sometime in the FAR future, created the transporter and sent it into the past.with more advanced transporterkek
>>343293045
>Reminding me about Ghost Trick
Wow this game really is mediocre in comparrison.
>>343293026
Phi and Diana can do that too
>>343293045
so why she needed any help from people with vastly inferior powers? Why wasn't this shit mentioned in later games?
>>343292828
>psychic people, ice that never melts and somehow could change the freezing temperature of all water, humanlike robots that bleed white liquid, bootstrap paradox and quantum mechanics where a choice in the future changes a choice in the past is ok
>aliens is not
>>343293124
ok? thanks for posting I guess?
>Luna was... like a daughter to me
>you don't know how much the doctor loves Kyle
>so I guess I'll just abandon them and keep living in 2029
>>343293207
>so why she needed any help from people with vastly inferior powers? Why wasn't this shit mentioned in later games?
Like I said, it was Akane's super special awesome power that only gets mentioned in the Q&A.
It exists to resolve plotholes, not as a plot device. It doesnt even exist until you find a plothole.
>Akane, Carlos and I are gonna be your shield wall
>THE FUCK JUNPEI
Question, this makes no sense...If all of them know what happened in other time lines why do they trust mira? If they don't then how does Carlos remember the pass for the box if he wasn't there. Also when they use the watches to determine the time difference: Sigma's and Diana's can't have that time since they come from the future.
>>343293260
Why need fake family when you have a real one, also that's in a different timeline there's a sigma that failed and went back to his time line. They don't exist on the one where they succeed
>>343293260
>The doctor loving Kyle
Nice joke.
>>343293383
Sigma can jump through timelines, not just back and forth in time on the same one.
>>343293370
they're just afraid to bring it up, probably.
Also read the files, they tell what happens with Mira after the ending.
Do you get anything on the 3ds version for getting all the endings and completing all the routes?
>>343293370>If they don't then how does Carlos remember the pass for the box if he wasn't there.
Akane told him offscreen or whatever.>Also when they use the watches to determine the time difference: Sigma's and Diana's can't have that time since they come from the future.
Maybe the time comes wireless from the bunker or something.
>>343293447
yeah and why would he go back to that timeline if another sigma would have done so to begin with? luna and kyle would end up alone regardless because sigma died in many timelines meaning there arent enough sigmas to fill timelines without sigma returning
>yfw when Q teamcould have been Kyle, Sean and ?
>>343293343I love how the robots just waited like 3 or so minutes before shooting them
>>343293484
well if you complete the game under 3 hours and the 5 secret passwords you unlock bikini mode
>>343293370mindhack
>>343293559
Swap back with the Sigma on the garden after VLR ended.
Just accept Uchikoshi fucked this up and didn't even know what to do with half his characters.
>>343293591
>?
fuck uchi
answers my ass
pirated
>They threaten to call the copson Delta>Not the fucking serial killer that actually murdered people in every timeline.
>>343293484
some files to read andbuyer's remorse
I think I just finished the game, but it doesn't feel complete. Is Payoff 2 really the 'true ending'? Does it really just stop at a fucking cliffhanger wherewhat Carlos does is up to the imaginationwith only files showing you what happened afterwards?
So what happened to Blick, Kyle, and everything else VLR implied was gonna show up explicitly?
>>343293241
You gotta reach a point where it's one fantastical macguffin element too many, and just start breaking down any form of writing consistency.
I don't even know what point that was anymore, but I feel like it was definitely crossed at some point.
>>343293290
That's pretty much how most elements in this goes. Half this crap feels like deus ex machina that solely exist to shoddily explain away plotholes.
>>343293484Disappointment
>>343293678
im not defending him, I just don't understand why you have such a hard time realizing that we literally don't know what happened to D team because there are no files left, and that was most likely done on purpose
>>343293752
They're gonna be in the next game
Uchi Money Escape.
Did you all think she was going to lick it?
>>343293752
>So what happened to Blick, Kyle, and everything else VLR implied was gonna show up explicitly?
I always took that epilogue as a glorified teaser, like the files that broke the 4th wall on vlr so I don't feel that bad about it
>>343293752
>So what happened to Blick, Kyle, and everything else VLR implied was gonna show up explicitly?
Dropped.
And yeah, that's it. No secret ending, no secret fragment. Nothing.
Did u rike it
why is phi an ugly hipster now?
>>343293885
There's some truth to this cause that segment isn't voiced at all when you use Japanese voices.
Remember we asked for this.Even though I wanted a game telling Phi's story and how Sigma had to stop the disasters with her while keeping the timeline in tact.
>>343293858Sigma's dick?She did.
>>343293923
> now
>>343293953
I asked for
what happens to clover, Alice, Kyle, how radical 6 came to be, origins on fts, among other things.
>>343293858
USED GOODS
S
E
D
>>343293975
she was a hot hipster in the last game
>>343292442
Last night. When it popped up, I realized the questions I still had where not going to be answered.
>>343294008
>what happens to clover, Alice,
who the fuck are you people that you care about these shitty characters
holy fuck I bet some of you even wanted clover to return
>>343293885
I really don't get this mindset, you're making it sound like it was a trailer or something. The story continued on for a good half an hour, it was the true ending. Everything led up to that point.
>>343292569
This is also true, but read this from Uchi.
"However, there may be some of you that will say “Hey, Akane did exist in the B End route though”. Well you’re exactly right. In that history Akane should not have existed. So in other words, the contradiction isn’t the setting between 999 and VLR, but rather it is in the B Ending. However, if you consider that Akane had jumped to the B End route with her whole body and not just her psyche then it would all make sense… If that is the case, then Akane did not disappear in the chapel but she just made her escape, or you can say that her whole body jumped to another time line."
>>343294073
Sorry for wanting the developer do what he said he was gonna do, anon.
>>343294073
>Not wanting Clover to be in a 4th survival game
You have to admit, it would be kinda funny if she just doesn't care anymore
>>343294109
i take it that way because it felt completely out of place for me
>In another timeline all the questions from VLR were answered in ZTD
Rate the protagonists
Sigma>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Junpei=Diana>Carlos=Q
>>343294270
just wait for q&a its like you guys have only just gotten into the series
It will be hilarious if Uchikoshi does a Q&A just to listen to all the shit he'll pull out of his ass to fill in the gaping holes he left in the game.
>>343294270
>In another timeline all female characters wore swimsuits
>>343294294
Sigma (VLR) > Carlos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever
>>343294270
Life is unfair.
>>343294294
Jumpy>Siggy>Diana>Robot boy> TEN MONTHS
>>343294270
>Good character designs
I miss this. The only one I kinda liked wasSean
>>343294294
Old Sigma>Carlos>Sean>Diana=Junpei
What did Carlos do for those 10 months? He couldn't go home because the other Carlos was there. He couldn't have used his bank account because the other Carlos would have noticed.
>>343294491
He chilled, fapped, and raped his sister like he always wanted to do
>>343294491
He shitposted on /v/
>>343294294
SIGMA>>Carlos in the 10 months ending>>>>regular carlos>Diana>Sean
Why wasSigma's SHIFT connection cut in the ending where he gets shanked?
>>343294646Maybe he did, but he wanted to make a dramatic exit before he jumped
>>343294558
Wow like that wouldn't make things awkward for Carlos B.
What was the lake about?
>/v/ is the only community that's calling ZTD's ending mediocre
????????
>>343294758
Eric was forced to throw his little brother's body in a lake after his father beat him to death
>>343294758Eric dumped his brother's body in there
>>343294491
He hid under her sister's bed.
>had to study for exams
>kept playing ZTD and shitposting on /v/
How do i SHIFT irl bros?
>>343294784
which "communities" are praising the ending?
>>343294784
meh I liked it but wished some questions were answered, then again that's what the q&a will be for
>>343294784
People are sad it clearned nothing up from ZLR.
Additionally, the game begins story vomiting near the end, and doesn't really raise many of it's own questions.
It feels like a poor mish mash of trying to explain things while mainting itself as an entry point for newer players, and fails at both.
>>343294854
Pretty much everyone else that played ZTD
>>343294847
You need to be in mortal danger, I recommend playing in traffic.
>>343294784
Well, that's correct. Now, calling the game shit is another thing. A wrong thing.
>>343294847
justoverload the fucking reactor, works every timet.Akane
>>343294847
you have to be in danger
just shoot yourself in the head, don't worry you won't die
>>343294847
Just write about ayy lmaos and their strange materials for your essays
>>343294847
Think you're about to die.
>>343294784
/v/ is /v/
>>343294784
We expected answers and maybe more detail about old characters.
We didn't even get the identity of Left.
What happens to Carlos in the timeline where VLR happens? does he literally get btfo?
>>343294982
>We didn't even get the identity of Left.
does it matter?
>>343294847
Press the button. What are ya, chicken?
>>343294982
>We didn't even get the identity of Left.
you make it sound as though that was even important
>>343295018
>what about Clover and Alice?
>what about Snake?
>what about Left?
>what about Kyle?
>LALALA DOESN'T MATTER WOW WHO CARES?
So how does Uchi's asshole taste like?
>>343295014
T E N M O N T H S
>>343295057
I mean afterwards not within the 10 months
>>343295014
He was too devastated by Junpei and Akane berating him for his actions he lost the will to live
>>343295107
>tfw almost forgot about snake
Fuck. It's been too long.
>>343295107
kyle is literally the only that matters on that list
>>343294932
Akane's hypocrisy is great
>I'm gonna blow this whole place up with no regrets to SHIFT us. Gab dies, but no one thinks about him at the moment anyway
>Set up the same in VLR for it to work
>It's not ok, when you kill us, Delta
>>343295162
Same answer.
He also comes to these threads and defends Uchi
>>343295107
Why would you care about some side characters? If every game gave you all the information about everyone, that wouldn't be fun. Some mystery should remain. Ins't that what Zero Escape is all about?
Why didn't Team DGet an ending folder? All we had was a beginning folder featuring GOOD Sigma
>>343295107
>what about Snake?
Clover already told you about him in VLR, what more do you wanted to know?
I agree with the rest, especially Kyle.In the end, the secret ending was a mistake.
>know you got all the clues you needed
>can't figure out the puzzle
worst feeling
>>343294982
That wasn't even important. Left was just Brother's bro that died
>>343295107
Clover&alice are awful and boring people
>>343295014
He's still processing his mistake.
>>343295335
>plot holes should remain
Stop it, you're literally worse than Kojidrones in denial from MGS V
BUT WHAT ABOUT "???"
I STILL DON'T GET IT
>>343295376
so we got fucking Eric and Mira instead, what a great trade
>>343295471
VLR epilogue was a mistake. Should've just ended when the nuclear reactors went off
>>343295107
Well what does it matter? Because your fan theories spun Snake into brother and you're upset?
>>343295471
I thought it was going to come up that ? was making the decisions like voting or pushing the buttons.
But no.
How do i open the second heater in the nuclear room as D-team?
>>343295436
something about his fucking face in the scene is just priceless. Like he cannot comprehend how he literally was the biggest retard ever.
It's like a small child running up to his parents and happily showing them he managed to slice off both his arms.
>>343295540
You have to place 2 objects in the plate before it before you can open it.
>>343295520
>people are upset shit wasn't answered in the last game in the franchise
Wow excuse me for not being a drone just lapping up that abrupt, anticlimatic unfinished ending.
>>343295436
underrated post
So who has the highest kill count?
Named characters only, because otherwise Mr. 8 billion would probably win.
>>343295368
>Make army of clones of deceased brother
>Dismissed as not important in a single passing mention by Brother
>>343295703
Carlos for killing more Carlos than everyone else combined
>>343295703
Depends on how you define it.
Either delta for putting the virus in the site, or Diana for releasing it
>>343295637
what has the ending to do with snake, clover, alice or left? I agree on Kyle but I don't get the other shit
>>343295703
Not counting killing themselves via shifting
Mira>Ace>Akane>Dio
>>343295703Snail8 billion/6 billiondepending on universe.
>>343295749
Forget that Left's death was the reason why brother created free the soul and all the shit that happened
Nope, not important.
>>343295749
Cloning your best friend/brother is standard procedure, don't you know?
>>343295701
>>343295436
I know this is a joke, but fuck, he might be.
He had 10 months to release how fucking stupid he was, and there wasn't a lot for him to do really. You don't think anytime in ten months he was like "wait, this is fucking stupid"?
>game asks you to put in a name for something
>always try outdog
It's hilarious
Alsowhat do I put in for the 4th standoff ending? It isn't locked so I assume I can right now.
Anyone haveDelta in 1080p?
>>343295859
I just don't see why Left needs an "identity".
Couldn't he just have been someone who died? Who were you expecting it to be, a young Ace transported into the past?
>>343295919
you are asking for a spoiler
>>343295919Q's real name
>>343295919
You will know after you've seen the ending.
Hint: If there is a timer in decisions, try letting it run out.
>>343295919
You put inQ's real name
>>343295919
You can input anything, but you should learn about it first.
>>343288248
The reason that button exists is to erase all evidence that Zero had planned the Decision game in the true ending.
>>343295919
You will know the answer after you open the door of truth. Don't try to brute force it.
>>343295986
Alright, I'll come back to it. I figured I was just missing something obvious since it wasn't locked
>>343295990
>mfw I thought it wassean
>it was actually Q's real name
>>343295989
But anon, jumpy had that throwaway line in the showers, remember? :^)
>>343295919
>Who killed Mira?
>Gab
>HE'S NOT EVEN HERE
>>343295989
>>343296053
>>343296137
>>343296198
>>343296206
can't wait to see how he'll get out of this one.
>>343296232
inb4
>I wasMINDHACKED
>>343295107
I don't get it. Why do people think that all characters from all previous games should be in this one?
>>343296232
He probably will say it was because of budget
>>343296232
>This will be revealed on the 4rd game. Hope you guys look forward to it :^)
Rate the Jumpys
>>343296258
>>343296334
Why do you guys keep posting this? Junpei literally tells you.
>>343296367
999>ZTD>VLR
>>343296318
Gee anon I have no clu-
>>343295989
>>343296053
>>343296137
>>343296198
>>343296258
>>343296334
>>343296367
Punished Junpei>Old junpei>Junpei
>>343296367
Cranky>Teen>Edgy
>>343296410
>Does Ace die or escape when radical 6 hit
>JUMPY TELLS YOU
>before radical 6 even hits
2/10 you tried.
>>343296367
VLR>ZTD>999
>>343296258
Ah sorry, didn't edit that well enough.
>>343295964
It's not even that. Brother pretty much gives you the most dismissive remark when it's brought up about his brother. Said the people who raised him had another kid, and it wasn't a blood sibling or anything.
Free The Soul goes from this super secret militaristic cult built from his disgust of humanity, with an elite army of clones based off his dead brother,
To some schmuck cult club on the weekends for funsies populated by aryans who looked like some random kid he didn't even seem to give two fucks about.
What was even the point of building up those details it was going to be flushed down the toilet?
>>343296367
999>old>nothin personnel
Which fragment hints or at least gives a clue to this code?
>>343296571
you will know, literally no way to confuse it
>>343296419
He made those promises for the game which was cancelled and the script scrapped. Get over it already.
>>343289439
I enteredSeanlike 50 times and it wasnt working. Now it all makes sense.
>>343296571
who is Zero decision gives you the code
>>343296571
You'll know it when you get there, go down a different path for now.
>>343296571
The Eric Snaps conga line
>>343296621
>and the script scrapped.
No?
He always had the fucking idea in his mind.
They were even planning to develop both VLR and ZE3 at the same time.
More like stop the damage control and accept Uchikoshi fucked up.
If Phi dyed her hair, how did the dye last the 45 years she was in status before VLR?
>>343296621
>Why do people expect x
>He said X
>WOW HE CHANGED SCRIPTS GET OVER IT
It's almost as if fans don't like the new script v the old one he had in mind, and are dissapointed in the game.
We've come full circle.
>>343296232
that is pretty easy
>>343296206
>>343296198
>>343296137
>>343295989
>>343296053
>>343296258
>"ZTD takes place before the outbreak of Radical 6. We decided to not include an epilouge describing the fates of those suffering under radical 6"
Also none of this shit will be revealed in a 4th game because it doesnt make sense that a game that takes place in a radical 6 free world would explore the fates of your shitty irrelevant 999 characters in a radical 6 world
>>343296709
Pretty well.
>>343296709
Hair dye only comes out when you wash it or your hair grows out. It doesn't just drop out of your hair for no reason.
>>343296621
>Final game in trilogy canceled
>Outpouring of fan support helps give the game another chance
>Completely rewrites script and ignores promises to said fans and make it more "newcomer friendly"
>J-just get over it guys
Like the game isn't bad, but people have legit reasons to be upset about Uchi ditching on them.
>>343296764
so basically
>I lied, lol.
>>343296865
Her dye actually got better over time. In VLR there's no red tint on her hair anymore
>>343296764
>licking his balls this much
Get over it. He botched this game.
And on the way he ruined VLR and 999 too. What a way to end this fucking franchise.
Wait, is the pressing theSean copying buttondecision as Q not supposed to show up on the flow or what?
>>343294847
>ZTD released the day after my last exam
>>343296716
>copypasted response for questions he didnt care about
>WAH WHY WASNT THE GAME TALKING 3 HOURS ABOUT THE RADICAL 6 INFECTED WORLD????
>>343296989
>And on the way he ruined VLR and 999 too.
No he didn't, stop overreacting. You're as bad as the people defending everything.
>>343296981
That's because
old man eyes are shitty, and the robo eye doesn't see faint colours as well
Just started playing on PC here, only got up tochoosing which team to execute
I really like how Junpei isa smug fucking cunt.
That being said, I don't really like the way the "fragment" system works in that you pretty much have to see both outcomes one right after the other. I liked it better how in VLR when you pick a path on the flowchart you go down it for a while before seeing the other possibility.
I also thought it was funny howif you guess the coin right you really are set free and the game ends right there complete with a credit sequence
>we're in the timeline where ZTD exists but is also the timeline that it has a garbage, unsatisfying ending
>>343296919
The game that was put on hold was the ending to the trilogy. This one was not. Things change in four years, you know?
>>343297097
you're in a timeline where you shitpost instead of just moving on life is unfair anon
>>343297097
Truly the history that god abandoned
Also Akane is getting on my nerves with her moralfag talk to Junepi when she has already killed multiple people
>>343297051
>I have set up a game with elaborate mysteries. I will explain them in the third game
>Third game explains nothing about these mysteries
>People shitpost on /v/ about he didn't have to explain anything
does Uchi's cock taste like sushi?
It's not a bad or terrible game, it's just a disappointment to what a lot of fans on /v/ were expecting, especially those playing since 999
>>343297092The first coin option you pick is always right
Am I missing something in the 3-way?I input Sean for Q but it still gives me an error
>>343297186
>BUT THAT'S TERRIBLE! KILLING PEOPLE IS NOT OKAY!!!
>oh by the way, never mind that I put bombs in 3 guys and watched them go off
>>343297360
Yes. A Spoiler. Go another path.No one is also a non-spoiler option, if you didn't try
>>343297265
Is it really, I knowthe diceis rigged andthe maskisn't.
What aboutthe gun?
>>343297360
Why do you think that is?
>>343297092
the ones that got the coin right get absolutely fucked
>>343297416
Yeah, I had nobody.
>>343297437
I just wanted to know if I wasn't doing something wrong, the wording in this game for inputs is kind of awkward sometimes.
>>343297421Gun is random. I got blank my first shot, my friend got live
>not just waiting for the next Q&A
Chances are he'll clarify most of the open questions in it as he did with the past games
ZTD's ending is basically like 999 in which it's just open-ended enough to still stand on its own
>>343297454That's kind of funny, you go through the whole game thinking they got one of the best endings, when they actually got one of the worst.
>>343295107
We don't get an epilogue for Team D either.
>>343296989
>And on the way he ruined VLR and 999 too.
>>343297550
He will pull shit out of his ass.
>so what happened with Kyle?
>eeer um... um, he was Gab... I guess?
I'm right before thedoor of truthpart, and i finished every single path i could go down, but now i cant progress on any timeline i try. I also did every alternative ending of every doable route. I was told to do that one path of team Q and D, but every storyelement necessary is blocked. What the fuck is going on?
>>343297126
>Cover art literally says Zero Escape Volume 3
>Not the third game in the trilogy
You "things change in 4 years" apologists slay me.
This isn't a AAA title with some big wig suits dictating a truckload of changes to try and milk a cash cow.
The only person that changed it so drastically was Uchi himself. And the changes pretty much amount to him fanficing his own universe and tossing out any and all development prior to ZTD to fit some half baked twist with Zero he probably thought was super cool at the time.
>>343286863
>999 was spoiled for me
>still enjoyed it
>deliberately learn spoilers of ZTD before playing the game, knowing I can still enjoy the game
>mfw I spoil it for /v/ like how they spoiled 999 for me
>See people I added from /v/ playing ZTD on steam
>spoil it
>they delete me as a friend
>kek
>>343297517
Agreed. I vaguely remember one instance in which spacing did not matter. Then suddenly, spacing mattered for fucking Music Box.
>>343297657
And this is why I'm glad it wasn't in the game. Chances are he had no good ideas on how to incorporate Kyle so he just dropped the concept. If he wasn't so definite in the VLR Q&A, people would be less mad.
>>343297728
What ending icons do you have?
>>343297186
>>343297396
also in the last choice shetalks about murdering people living in the other dimension by shifting
but a few hours ago she herself started a reactor meltdown just so the team C can shift
fuck that bitch
>>343296514
>>343295989
Ah so, I hope you like this version!
>>343297191
People were disappointed because the things that they were expecting are things that they speculate on their own, like snake=zero etc.
I'm following this series religiously since 999, and I'm quite happy with the conclusion that ztd showed, which is the resolution of junpei-akane and sigma-phi-diana relatinship.
>>343297191
okay smartass. You mindhacked uchi and can now rewrite the two ending leading into vlr. Whar do you do?
>>343297736Blue Bird also works
>>343297728
Did you answer to Eric about who killed Mira? Don't. Thanks me later.
>>343294918
Hive mentality of /v/. Someone aggressively disliked it, then others followed suit instead of generating their own thoughts and processes.
I just finished ZTD. While it is the weakest in the series, it's still one of the better games I've played this year.
There are a few smaller things that should probably be addressed, nothing that can't be answered in a Q&A. Given the game was funded by hopes and dreams, that's fine.
There were so many moments where something just goes *CLICK* and you realise so much.
Phi a shit, just like in VLR.She's wrong about almost everything aside from the giant explosion button.
Here's something I enjoyed quite a bit.> At the three way standoff.
> Entering all sorts of things for giggles.
> Enter Q.
> "PLEASE ENTER Q'S REAL NAME"
> Shit my fucking pants, come back later when I know the name Delta.
> Witness the Perceptive end, figure maybe Delta is the player or something. More confused than ever.
> Learn that the robot boy's name is Sean.
> Enter that.
> Error.
> Mfw I realised what was going on.
>>343297812
Everyone survives and c-team dies. But it doesn't make any sense because i did every route.
>>343297883
I'm happy you're happy anon, but surely you can see why people who were told they'd have a wrap up to plotlines, including Kyle, who was very very set up to be critical, and tonnes of side characters/mysteries, would be dissapointed when it doesn't even seem to try.
>>343297903
I don't know, that's why I'm not writing games. I don't need to know how to cook an amazing steak to notice mine is just okay vs amazing.
>>343298028
No. The icons. In your save file. There are little icons. Which ones do you have?
Did you also see all the executions and hit all the gas chamber buttons?
>>343297924
i just answered with nothing. Do i have to know the killer?
>>343290896
>Nothing
>His dad choked his brother to death in the shower and made him dump the body afterwards.
>Life is unfair, don't you think?
>>343298154
No. Let the timer run out.
Cone on guys, it's obvious that Uchi was in over his head when doing the Q&A. I had no doubt he had the overarching plot of the games mapped out and fully intended to deliver on everything he promised. However, he was overambitious in attempting to resolve all the plot points that he introduced and there is probably no way he could've answered everything in a coherent manner in the format of a puzzle VN.
>>343298128
oh i got the standoff crossbow thingy, theradical 6ending, and of course the first one.
>>343297903
I'd rewrite literally all endings leading to VLR except for one that leads to everything not being shit.
...Since that was the exact plot point of VLR, only one time line leads to everything not being shit that had to be carefully worked toward.
>mfw fucking Akane starts moralfagging
I just figued out where Kyle is in VLR!He's Gab.
Deepest Lore Confirmed!
So early on if youbetray C-team when controlling Diana, she freaks out and says that somebody else was controlling her.Was this supposed to mean that Zero was mind-hacking her, or that The Player was controlling her?.
>>343298238
Well when you promise the moon, and have an amazing first foray, people are going to be dissapointed when you don't even TRY to deliver on your promises.
>>343298263
You're missing something for thedoor of truthdo you have every execution, and did you push every gas chamber button?
>>343296989
>And on the way he ruined VLR and 999 too.
I know you faggots are addicted to drama but this will never catch on, sorry anon
>>343292431
His alcoholic dad killed his brother during one of his drunken rages then made Eric dump the body. Eric gets triggered by the shower because his dad killed his brother in the shower... for some reason.
>>343298371
It's strongly suggested thatmost of those spur of the moment binary choice decisions were Mindhacks.
>>343297657
and the last 2 Q&A weren't asspulls?
>>343298378 Like i said, i did every ending of every possible route and yes i tried every way in the gaschamber for every team. So is my game just bugged?
>>343298370
he fucking loved cheese
>>343298154
Literally every answer gets you shot.
>>343290896
>what the hell did Phi do anyway?Telling you to not push the button
>>343298569
Post a picture of your flowchart. You fucked up somewhere, but your game isn't bugged.
>>343298569
no. post top of flowchart
>>343298367
> Mfw -AKANE- starts going on about how the ends don't justify the means.
>>343298634dontknowworks
>>343289840
Except the only thing he dropped from VLR was Kyle.
Learn how to use spoilers.
>The doll icons change on the status screen when one of the players die
Really nice touch
>>343298747
This was totally weird. Uchikoshi himself has stated MULTIPLE TIMES that Akane is all "the ends justifies the means" EVEN IN 999.
>>343298824
>phi turns into red hair zombie/ayy lmao
>>343290327
There was closure alright.
They don't need to show them catching the terrorist, you know they're going to.
>Q is actually an old man in a wheelchair pretending to be deaf and blind who is actually Zero, the kid is called Sean
>Recording of Zero specifically says that the leader has to enter the vote, which for Q-team is Q
>The fact that he should be unable to vote is not even brought up, Sean is the one who enters the vote for Q team (as evidenced by the other characters chewing him out over the vote immediately after)
>none of the characters worry that there might be a penalty for someone other than the leader entering the vote
>get clear shots of the entire Lounge multiple times, Q is nowhere to be seen
This twist is complete garbage and only works if the game is outright lying to you for at least half of the time.
>>343298930
with the power of friendship
>>343298747
>>343298867Akane felt guilty for what Junpei has become. She never wanted him to become like her and gave him the speech in hopes that he returns to his old self.
>>343298747
>killing people is wrong Junpei, what happened to you?
YOU DID, YOU FUCKING BITCH
>>343293752
Kyle was dropped, Blick Winkel was never implied to be in the game, he was just in the epilogue so Akane could tell you to play the third game, it was a glorified teaser.
Those are the two things that were immplied to be in ZTD.
>>343298646
>>343298656
I would, but my picture qualtiy is shit. I have every option on top of the flowchart doen, the only thing out of the ordinary is that the icons on the flowchart that arent connected at all, are not all activated, only C-team executed and all team survived.
>mfwQ tells Eric that Mira killed Mira
>>343299167
get team D and Q executed
>>343299167
Post a picture or we can't help you.
>>343299217
So i have to redo completed story segments? Thanks Chunsoft
So I guess the twitter not revealing Q was done on purpose
>>343299167
>>343299231
Wait shit, I didn't finish reading.
Fucking execute all the teams like we said 50 times. Jesus.
>>343299085
>Kyle was dropped
He's an existensial conciousness that exists outside of time that can enter and control other people's actions.Kyle is the player that forces them to make decisions even if it is out of character.
>>343298958MindHack
>>343290875
>>343298958
uchifags will defend this
>>343299305
>oh no I have to spend about 2 minutes to fast forward through the dialogue and pick something different
>of course I haven't played VLR
>>343298958
Actually,
it says the leader has to DECIDE the vote, which he does, through what he programmed Sean to do for the first vote.
I am pretty lost right now, I am currently in the Maintenance room with Team D. I activated the robots but I have absolutely no idea what to do next and I feel like I tried everything
I still don't get what the ending whereSigma, Phi and Diana escape, but Diana is implied to be mindhacked to remain was all about. Why'd he have only her remain, and not Sigma too? Why does Zero start bullying her by saying that she was acting and had multiple personalities or whatever. Does he hate his mom or something?
>>343299419
hit the small ass buttons on the bomb
>>343299419
Talk to betty.
Do what she says.
>>343299419
Did youset the bomb timer?
>>343299306
They should've just referred to Q as ? in the promotional materials
>>343299357
That wasDelta using the Mind Hack.
>>343299460
Man I forgot that ending even happened.
I can't think of an explanation for it at all.
>>343298958
If you go back and re-watch the D-Vote scene as Q-Team, they never actually say the namesQ or Sean.Sean never claims he made the decision, he just tries to explain why Q could have made the choice he did.
In fact,Mira and Eric both shout at the screen, which is Delta's viewpoint when he's killed in the Perceptive ending.
It's still dumb, but no more so thanSigma was really old with a robo-eye the whole time!
>>343299558
Go do it, faggot. You have to.
>>343299398
I played both games, but there was never an instance where i have to do something i already did, still get the same outcome AND progress the story through this stupid repetition. Anyway its probably a bug or some shit, altleast i know that now.
>>343299460Maybe. In the ending where you find out who Zero is he leaves Diana for last too.
>>343296991
Anyone?
>>343299602
you don't get the same outcome anon, depending on the team you vote another one of them dies
it's the AB game lite where you had to redo shit for additional branches
>>343299085
>i-it was just a teaser
There were a dozen ways better to do this.
The series already deals with meta elements, so introducing a meta element as purely a 4th wall way to say "BUY MY NEXT GAME" and then entirely abandon it is fucking stupid.
>>343299357
Except that'sZero/Delta with mindhacks as the only force mentioned to be able and actively doing this in ZTD.
>>343299602
IT IS NOT A BUG YOU DAMN BRAT
>>343299652
you mean thevirtual reality one? you get a yellow icon for it, it's an ending
>>343299617So he seems to only resent his mom and not his dad? or the other way around perhaps? I really wish all of the family stuff was expanded on more. I mean Sigma and Diana hardly even reacted when zero revealed themselves to be Delta, it was kind of lame
>>343299602
It's almost as if you have to go and change two teams to execute someone.
But you wouldn't be that fucking stupid, to think it's a bug, after people tell you it's not, repeatedly, right?
T E N M O N T H S
>>343299782
WHat the fuck is up with you're reading comprehension, i did every possible outcome of the segments and now i did them again and it works now. Thats called a bug. End of story.
>>343299871
It's not anywhere on the flowchart for me, and the decision doesn't appear anywhere else
>>343299973
Let's break it down, because appearently you were dropped on your head a lot.
Lets say you first voted like...
C votes Q, Q votes C, D votes Q.
Q is executed.
Now, we need those other endings!
So we change C's vote to D.
WHAT THE FUCK IT'S NOT WORKING -you
That leaves you with...
C votes D, Q votes C, D votes Q.
You need to actually vote people off.
>>343300116
Are you looking at the flowcharts or the fragment?
>>343299973
no it's not you retard. the game remembers your last decision. you have to actively have 2 votes for a team active to get them killed, not just watch the other cutscene when you didn't have enough votes you goddamn brat
>>343300116
post flowchart, if it's there I get you call you a faggot
>>343300218
>>343300219
Flowchart, can't post it because I'm on 3DS. It's legit not there, though. I chose to press the button.
>>343300282
It should be under the C team executed path. if I recall.
>>343300282
do you not have a smartphone or some shit to just take a picture
>>343299631There's fair enough reason to believe that Delta/Zero is the player as well. We're given his PoV more than once.During the Perceptive end, we have his viewpoint. When he kicks the bucket, we lose our vision over Q-Team.When he's named and revealed, Sean points at the screen. It's through Delta's eyes until he stands and starts his speech.When Sean cuts the camera feed while setting up the Force Quit Box, the screen fuzzes out, as we, Zero, have lost vision.
There are obviously a few issues with this theory, but the idea thatThe player is seeing through Q's eyes or the surveillance cameras (hence the camera-fuzz cut outs whenever a section ends)seems highly plausible.
I believe there are little in the way of Right/Wrong answers, as I definitely feel we're being left a few things open to interpretation.
That's not to say there aren't actual things missing from the game, but the game is still a nice entry to the series. The weakest, yes, but still better than most shit pumped out nowadays.
What was your favourite decision game?
>mine were the Russian Incinerator Roulette and the 3 dice rolls
>>343300282
Go to the fragment and do all the options.
>>343298618
Did he (as in, K or Kyle in VLR)? I can't remember.
>>343300387
>Dice
>Decision
Cool concept, but literally not a choice.
>>343300340
That's the third tree, right? Yeah, it's not there. Only blue and red points are there.
>>343300185
>>343300219
Damn, you're right. I don't know how i got through vlr if the same priciple applied there, probably through try and error.
>>343300471
Didn't they call it a decision game even if its bullshit?
>>343299402
>it says the leader has to DECIDE the vote, which he does, through what he programmed Sean to do for the first vote.
No it doesn't. It says literally "The leader must submit it for the group." Pic related.
>>343300387
Did Zero really need to create 216 timelines and kill team C in 215 of them?
>>343300512
Second. Left most is all live, the C exe, Q exe, D exe.
>>343300541
Maybe check out that head injury before you call bugs, champ.
>>343300589
and then they talk how it sucks and they have to do it by force or some shit
>>343300387
Incinerator/Monty Hall/Inject Rad-6.
I like the ones that are mostly down to weighing risk/reward. I'm also a sucker for the Monty Hall problem
>>343300387
incinerator was the only good one,throw dice or diewas stupid,one gasmaskwas stupid
there's a honorable mention for the "press or dont press the blue button"
Anyone know the track that plays in Zero's study? That one gets you pumped to solve puzzles
>>343300672
I am able to form complete sentences, that's enough for me.
>>343299530
>>343299787
But he's described as a player in the secret ending. He only knows at face value Sigma and Akane's story (like us).
>>343300589
Ah, it's Eric who says "the vote has to be decided by the leader" in the Q execution cutscene, right before the choice. Where is that dialogue again?
>>343300707
and then he's nowhere to be seen anywhere near the computer once the vote has been entered, while Sean is right in front of it.
new thread where
>>343298747
I don't know how to feel about it. In both other games she's (almost) a sociopath with her own sets of morals. Has seen a couple of futures, including lots of death in 999. And then she has a 180 turn around for ZTD.
>>343300812
https://youtu.be/YBAD_9r9ZII
It's my favorite of the bunch
>>343300387
I was actually hyped when the monty hall popped up because I knew the answer beforehand. I could imagine it seeming like total bullshit if I never read it before though.
>>343300908
It's in the "Execution" cinema segment, before you get to decide which team to play as or anything. It's Zero who says it.
>>343300672
Yeah, that has no Q sections for me either except the inject/don't inject stuff at the top. I think the fragment choices looked like the split at the bottom, but none of that unlocked for me. Weird.
I liked young sigma in an old body more then old sigma in a young body
>>343300895
In VLR, sure.
But it's heavily implied if not outright stated thatthe player's perspective in ZTD is Delta's. See >>343300372Also, Delta explicitly states he is unable to shift, unlike Kyle/?/Blick/Player
>>343301063
Huh. I thought I heard that too and it was bullshit, then I watched the cutscene I cited and thought I must have misheard that. Yeah, it's super bullshit then.
But not as bullshit ashow does the acid not dissolve the metal pipes in the wall?
>>343301074
Redo the fragment and try another choice?
>>343301074
>inject/don't inject
oh yeah, this reminds me.
Wasn't there only 3 Rad6 syringes?
So, could you say that the incinerator/russian roulette decision was the most important one of them all? I guess that's why they made it the promo image
>>343301074
>>343301234
Also, I have the vita version, but did you scroll down? The fragment placement is near the end, irrc. Just occured to me maybe you didn't know you could scroll or something silly.
>>343301290
Yes, and?
>>343301409
new thread
>>343301234
>But not as bullshit as how does the acid not dissolve the metal pipes in the wall?
He used a solution that was concentrated enough to melt a body, but not metal.
>>343301341
Shouldn't there be 4? Zero either hinted that there were only 3 humans, or simply forgothimself
Honestly pretty lost on this puzzle unless I missed somethingI wish there was a better way of getting card strengths than that semi random vs thing. Almost everything just goes against birds and flowers and almost everything loses. . I only have 2 chapters in the book but I'm not finding a way to unlock another
>>343301653
>5
>5*5=11
what is wrong with you?
>>343301653
Think for a minute:
The numbers are 0 to 12.
What kind of numbers can't be made with others by multiplying?
>>343301815
semi-guessing since my card fight results were limited. Also forgetting what the book said while trying stuff
>>343301653
How many numbers are there? What number can be tripled without exceeding 12?
>>343301998
the book has more than 1 chapter
