>Worse performance than a mildly OC'd 970
>Worse performance than a R9 390
>Draws a higher average wattage than what the maximum 75W limit allows through the PCI-E rail, AT STOCK CLOCK
>Long term use will result in a fried motherboard
>Uses more than 150W at stock clocks, despite it being claimed to be a 150W card
>OC'd draws 200W easily, and pushes PCI-E way beyond it's specified limits
>AMD reps trying to silence reviews where power consumption results have found the card to not comply with PCI and ATX specifications
>AMD first claimed it was 150W TDP, now claiming it's 110W TDP
I was really hoping to upgrade from my R9 370, but this is just too much. I'm seriously underwhelmed and disappointed in AMD and this card. I don't have a fantastic motherboard, so I don't want to risk destroying it, and I'm sure AMD won't replace it due to their dodgy workmanship.
Multiple reviews revealing power consumption, with power measurements taken at the rails
>http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10,4616-9.html
>http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-RX-480-Review-Polaris-Promise/PC-Perspective-Advanced-Power-Testin
>https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/22.html
>http://www.golem.de/news/radeon-rx-480-im-test-eine-bessere-grafikkarte-gibt-es-fuer-den-preis-nicht-1606-121715-6.html
>http://www.hardware.fr/articles/951-9/consommation-efficacite-energetique.html
I didn't ask for this. I was expecting better from AMD, but now I'm thinking I might just keep saving money and use my shitty underpowered card until the 1080Ti drops.
>>343281191
From Tom's Hardware
>We skipped long-term overclocking and overvolting tests, since the Radeon RX 480’s power consumption through the PCIe slot jumped to an average of 100W, peaking at 200W. We just didn’t want to do that to our test platform
>>343281191
AMD pisses me off so much. They are like a bitch who's got a great personality but when you get her home she reveals she has a dick and it's bigger than yours.
You just can't fucking win with this company. They get your hopes up and then disappoint you when they whip out that fat tranny dick.
Which card would be a good upgrade from a 7950 at 1080p@60hz on a 520W PSU with 40A on the 12-volt?
I'm thinking the 1070 right now.
>>343281612
And then on their way out the door they leave a hot steaming pile of shit on your doormat.
I'm over them. I've been team red for years. I'm going green this year.
>>343281191
>costs $199
>was marketed to be better when using two of them
>mean while in finland, it costs around 300 euros
Good thing I didn't wait.
>>343281612
Sounds hot
>>343281359
This is a failed compliance with the PCI-E standard, which could mean the rights to use PCI-E are revoked and it's ILLEGAL to sell the card.
>>343281191
Apparently only those few reviewers are experiencing that problem. And it's a 150w card with 75 from pcie and 75 from psu or something
>>343281359
Does it turn crossfire into housefire?
How is that legal? Or do they not care?
>>343282073
And they have to get certified before selling, so that furthers the isolated theory incident. But thats really fucking weird, only those reviewers having extremely similar defected reference cards.
>my friend was telling me to buy it
boy, she'll be real mad tomorrow
>>343282118
Lmao
>>343281612
do you speak from personal experience?
>>343281954
I'm actually surprised that its "only" 288 eur here, maybe its that only nvidia gpus are expensive here.
I thought it'll be around 320 here, to be honest if it was nvidia it definitely would be around that much.
>that TDP
>to get the price/performance bang they claim, you have to crossfire
What a fucking joke, to say nothing of AMD's pitiful Crossfire support.
>>343282183
apparently the official explanation is it was "affecting only a few hundred" cards or some shit like that. BUT I WOULDN'T RISK IT, especially since I have an OEM (dell) motherboard that's rare to find a replacement.
So it's a 960 for the price of a 960?
>>343282303
A few hundred lmao, I hope they give those people refunds. But that's why you don't buy reference cards.
Being poor and skeptical saved me some shekels.
>>343282447
I don't even need to upgrade many more times, I only have interest in a few games with modern graphics. But fuck man, don't stray the path. When people say nVidia is good, maybe it's better for everyone to listen rather than to dismiss him/her as a fanboy. I just hope that anyone who got ripped off either learned his lesson or got a refund.
>>343281191
Should i upgrade my XFX R9 290x to a R9 Fury or a 480? Been seeing bad reviews on it.. was wondering if an upgrade would be good, will be going to 1440p soon.
>>343282338
its 970 for the price of 960
>>343282183
No, apparently it's not isolated to reviewers. Other users on leddit and other forums have found the same thing. Some official reviewers have even bought a retail version of the 480 and compared it to the review version, and they both had the same problems.
AMD have fucked up.
>>343282545
1080 is your best bet right now unless you wanna wait for vega
Post yfw you didn't fall for the nvidia meme
>>343282749
>He didn't buy Nvidia
>He doesn't buy the card whose company has dicks in all the cute pies/traps
>>343282303
That's bullshit. They're lying through their teeth. Cards from North America, South America, Europe and Asia are reporting the same thing. So it's definitely not "just a hundred cards".
>>343282545
290x to a 480 would be a downgrade.
Better off with a 1070 or 1080, or wait until 1080Ti drops, as that will likely have better DX12 support
>>343282873
>Hey buying this 200bux card would be downgrade
>Buy this 500bux or 800bux card.
>>343282338
I'm about to buy a 960 my man.
>>343282908
Well you don't upgrade by buying a worse card.
I suppose you do if you're an AMD fanboi
>>343282749
*AMD meme
Ftfy.
>>343281191Just recommend dumb goyim AMD while you get NvidiaAMD makes console GPUs, and guess what the ports work better on Nvidia GPUs
>>343283230
>$499
That's $100 too much.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125875
>>343282749
Can't believe someone actually took the time to draw this.
>>343281191
Even if you like Nvidia, this isn't good.
Intelvidia seriously need a competitor. AMD dying will just hurt the industry.
Fuck.
>>343282749
Can someone tell me what's wrong with having a career and being able to afford good gear for your hobby?
>>343282283
>to get the price/performance bang they claim, you have to crossfire
What? CF is, has always been and will always be worse price/performance than a single card.
>>343281612
>you can't fucking with with this company
I bought an MSI 390 and I have zero complaints.
the problem with the 480 is that everyone was going full retard over it and now that the benchmarks came out everything's screaming like a child. It's like a competition with you retards, "who can shitpost the most"
it's a good card (for the price)
still waiting for after market designs tho, when are they coming? the reference cooler is awful, and hopefully there will be some 8-pin variants.
>>343283148
I am... I don't know i like AMD because it's more colorful.. Nivida feels more bland... sure more AA but i don't know... i feel more comfy with AMD... but i was wondering if a Fury would be good for 1440p, running 1920x1080 here atm. CPU is FX 8370. PSU is ECGA 700 Bronze.
>>343283495
Some people assume that CF works in every game and always has 90-100% scaling.
>>343282746
Any release date of Vega?
>could have bought shitloads of AMD stock when it was really low at like ~1.7 USD
>now they're worth almost 3 times as much
oh well
>>343283540
>le comfy meme
???????????
>>343283329
>logan uses Nvidia and intel
>recommends AMD in all his builds
>says crossfire is "good"
here, have the other image.
>>343282545
>to a R9 Fury
No
>a 480
That's not an upgrade, not unless some AIB custom 480 gets released and runs at 1.5GHz+
>>343283673
Donchu worry, I have em all
>>343283525
Mid-July.
>>343283593
October.
>>343283381
Damn, that's better than I thought it would be!
>>343283673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg7DPighyk4ORGANIC JEWS
>>343282073
Obviously it isn't because they certified the card. They also certified the 1080 which similarly draws more power through the PCIE slot than the spec allows and there are probably a lot of cards that go over especially when overclocking.
>>343281191
use the containment thread on /g/ you spastic cunt
>>>/g/55333602
>>>/g/55333602
>>>/g/55333602
>>>/g/55333602
>>343283230
>GameWorks
>A fucking feature
lmao
>>343283676
Ahh.. How about a R9 390x? I'll prob just wait and just upgrade my monitor to 1440p till they release more AMD GPU this summer. If not i might switch to Nividia or maybe do SLI. I'm always messing with the crimson settings on AA, and i don't know which is better for best quality....
>>343283463
>AMD dying will just hurt the industry.
Not necessarily. If AMD go bust someone will end up buying their tech, and the government won't allow Nvidia to buy out the gpu tech, and they won't allow intel to buy out the cpu tech. They won't allow them to have absolute market control. So what we could see is intel picking up the gpu side, and nvidia picking up the cpu side.
It could actually be better for consumers.
>>343283876
>They also certified the 1080 which similarly draws more power through the PCIE slot than the spec allows
Why do you lie? Are you a shill?
>when overclocking
The manufacturer isn't responsible for your overclocking, dumbfuck, the same way the guy working at the gunstore isn't responsible for the murder you committed just because he sold you the gun.
>>343283557
B-but Ashes of the Singularity!!!
>>343284060
The government can't force someone to compete, nor to buy a company that is failing or not showing profit.
It would also be perfectly legitimate for someone to buy the company, kill the discrete GPU division and focus entirely on consoles, where they have market dominance.
AMD dying either way would be bad.
>buying rx480
enjoy your dying motherboard
>>343284076
>>They also certified the 1080 which similarly draws more power through the PCIE slot than the spec allows
The spec allows for 75W, the 1080 barely peaks at 60W, and draws an average of just over 40W.
>>343281191
What is it about AMD cards that they always need a fucking ridiculous amount of power compared to Nvidia
>>343283910
AMD defense force in this thread is in full force
>>343284227
Not saying they would be forced to compete or buy the tech, but it's just an example of what they could do. Nvidia gaining access to the cpu division would allow them to create APU's for the console market, a market that is dominated by AMD.
>check prices
>349 euros
>1070 is 419 euros
Yeah, nah, fuck AMD.
Bros I probably will be building a PC at the end of the summer
What do you think of Logical Increments $665 PC build with rx480?
http://blog.logicalincrements.com/2016/06/building-pc-amds-rx-480/
Is nVidia going to come out with a card to match this? Maybe the 970 price will drop and I will just pick that up.
>>343284569
>1070 is 419 euros
Where? Link.
>>343284618
GTX 1060 will be released "soon"
>>343284618
wait and find out
>>343284693
I was mistaken, it was 419 before tax.
Being a yuropoor is suffering.
>>343284076
Here's a 980ti drawing more than the spec allows:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti,4164-7.html
And a 960 with an even more serious problem:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960,4038-8.html
Why don't I remember any huge outcry about them?
>>343284618
You can pick up a 970 for around $200 now, and the 3Gb and 6Gb models of the 1060 will be released sometime in July.
If history is anything to go by, the 1060 will perform better than the 480 even though it has (technically) inferior hardware.
>>343284180
Ashes actually has like 50-60% scaling, at least that's what I get on my 290X CF at 4K.
>After market 1070 will never come
>>343281191
Thank you for being so concerned about what video cards I buy, guy who totally isn't astroturfing for Nvidia.
>>343284901
>other cards that are out of spec to the OP like the Asus Strix 960.
>There are a few fundamental differences. Most cards that are out of spec over-draw from the external PCI-E power connectors.
>The Asus Strix 960 has issues with power spikes on the PCI-E slot according to Tom's Hardware. Other 960s do not.
>the spikes are the not the issue; the average is. A power spike can last 1ms, if the average is taken over say 1 minute it will be lower than the maximum 75W. With the RX480, both retail and review samples from different board vendors have had this issue identified AND THE AVERAGE POWER DRAW EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM SET BY SPEC
>It is not about power spikes, it is about sustained power draw above the 75w limit from the PCI-E slot.
nice try shill
>>343285125
>posts facts/sources/tests
>lol shill
epic
DELETE THIS
![15-Gaming-PEG-Total[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/UeqpfjU.png "15-Gaming-PEG-Total[1].png")
>>343284901
You fucktard. Did you not even read your website link you sent?
"Nvidia should be commended once again for doing a great job limiting its new card’s power consumption via the motherboard’s PCIe slot to under 75W. Load spikes, which we often see even from mainstream graphics cards, are practically nonexistent. Dynamic power distribution across the rails functions perfectly and without a hitch."
Also, here's an image of the power consumption that's ON THE PAGE YOU LINKED. AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S UNDER THE PRESCRIBED AMOUNT.
>>343283673
He recommends it in all the budget/value builds and seems to regularly reiterate that while intel and nvidia are definitely win at the high end you get good value for money with AMDs ageing architectures.Wendell a best
From the german review:
>Anders ausgedrückt: AMDs neue Grafikkarte mit 14-nm-Technik weist eine ähnliche Effizienz auf wie Nvidias 28-nm-Generation, was wir ziemlich enttäuschend finden.
>In other words:The efficiency of AMD´s new GPU with 14nm technology is comparable to that of NVidias generation of 28nm cards, something we found to be rather disappointing.
>>343284012
"NVIDIA GameWorks™ pushes the limits of gaming by providing a more interactive and cinematic game experience and thus enabling next gen gaming for current games. We provide technologies e.g. PhysX and VisualFX, which are easy to integrate into games as well as tutorials and tools to quickly generate game content. In addition we also provide tools to debug, profile and optimize your code."
>implying PhysX is not a feature
you dunn goofed.
>>343285013
It never ceases to amaze me how nvidia cards always outperform amd cards with nvidia cards having 20-40% less teraflops
>>343281756
>I'm going green this year.
>He treats graphic cards like being on a team
You faggots are half the reason we have a shit sandwich and a piss milkshake for options when it comes to cards.
>>343284901
>Here's a 980ti drawing more than the spec allows:
By an insignificant amount. There are very tiny peaks to 80W, something that isn't particularly concerning.
On the other hand, RX 480 averages numbers over 80W, and peaks to over 160W at stock clocks. That's a pretty big difference.
As for 960, it doesn't average over 75W either, but the peaks are a lot more frequent. However, the problem is mostly limited to the ASUS model (other manufacturers show much fewer peaks or none at all), so it's not a problem with 960 really, it's a problem with the power delivery that AIB partners implemented. Not many people cared about 960, and even fewer people care about a specific 960 from a single manufacturer. It's a bit different when 1) the problem is more severe, 2) it actually affects the reference card AMD put out.
If you want to claim that people are only complaining about the issue because it's on an AMD card, then I'll have to tell you that you're wrong. If 1080 or 1070 had the same problem, you'd see tons of threads about it. 970 being an nvidia card didn't stop the 3.5 GB stuff, but did you know that 660 Ti had a similar memory structure as 970? Didn't hear about it? That's because no one cared about the 660 Ti.
>>343285304
you're talking to an amd shill, do you really think they know how to read?
if they knew, they wouldn't be shilling amd
>>343284901
A random spike is not so much of a problem as a constant average draw that is above spec. The 480 has a constant above the average spec, and that spec can be lower in cheaper mobo's, which the people that is card is aimed at are more likely to have.
That's why there was no outcry.
Fuck, I still don't know what card to get for 1440p/60fps gaming.
1070? 1060? 480X/490?
ty 480, I can finally upgrade from medium settings in csgo
>>343285304
Obviously not all 960s though as the one they tested had a problem. Why wasn't there huge outcry demanding that the ASUS Strix be stripped of its certification and made illegal to sell?
I don't see this as a huge deal, lots of GPUs go slightly over spec in their power draw under load, especially if you're overclocking. Hopefully we'll see driver updates to better manage the power on these reference cards, and the partner cards will have better power supply and cooling.
>>343285635
1080
1070 too, depending on how far you want to drop settings and what sort of AA you expect
>>343285635
1070 is probably the best choice right now
>>343285635
Only one of those cards is out.
>>343285502
When's the last time you sucked a dick? Or have you always been hetero-exclusive?
People like you are the reason we have so many social issues in society.
>>343285635
You want to max everything with consistent 60? Then 1080 - trust me it's overkill at that resolution
>>343281954
>boohoo i want my high end card for 199$
god damn cheapfags
>>343285879
not*
>>343285852
I know and I'm still willing to wait a little while before upgrading.
>>343285796
>>343285879
I would be able to afford a 1080, but I'm too stingy to spend that much money on a GPU.
>>343285635
1070 is probably what you want, 1080 would be ideal but I don't know how much you want to spend, 490 could be good but until it's out and tested nobody knows.
>>343285778
>Hopefully we'll see driver updates to better manage the power on these reference cards, and the partner cards will have better power supply and cooling.
I don't think drivers will help the power situation in any meaningful way, I think it'll come down to waiting for non-reference 480s and having the power addressed with more than just a 6pin connector.
>>343286095
>I don't think drivers will help the power situation in any meaningful way,
It could be a bug in the power management code keeping it in a higher power state than it should.
> I think it'll come down to waiting for non-reference 480s and having the power addressed with more than just a 6pin connector.
I was waiting for those anyway.
he fell for the pc meme, spent $600 just to run games at 1080/60.
>>343286081
That 1080 will give you a couple of years of solid gaming at 1440p. Then you can slap on an NZXT G10 and an AIO cooler and overclock it to get some more out of it.
>>343286248
I read earlier today that the powermanagement side of the 480 comes down to the engineering of the PCB, and that they can't do much to the power supply without redesigning the entire card.
Bros I'm using a 7970. Would the 480 be a solid upgrade?
>>343286453
It would, but wait for partner cards, the refernce model is shit.
>He fell for the AMD meme
>>343286453
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1722?vs=1748
Note: 7970 overclocks pretty decently while current 480s barely OC at all.
As a comparison, 7970 vs 1070
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1722?vs=1731
rx 480 is a pile of shit, gtx 970 is a pile of shit
the fuck do i buy then? a fucking 1070 for a billion dollars?
>>343286670
1060 when it comes out
>>343286670
This dick bb
>>343286391
There's a ton of software involved in the power management, you can even check out a lot of the driver code for it since AMD opened it up so that it could be merged into the main Linux source tree.
>>343286670
Get a PS4
I'm about to buy gtx960.
Should I go for the 2 or 4 gb version?
>>343286453
It'll be a decent step up but wait for non-reference cards.
>>343286391
That is what we're getting at when we say "wait for non-reference cards".
>>343286783
why dont i just hang myself instead?
>my face on behalf of all nz/ausfags when this "budget", "entry level" card is 500 dollary doos
>>343286081
i am planing to get a 1080 too and hoping it will last me for the next 4-5 years. i ll probs gonna slap another 1080 when the next gen comes and it gets cheaper.
>>343281191
>Uses more than 150W at stock clocks, despite it being claimed to be a 150W card
GTX 980 does that too. It's "claimed" that it's 180W card but it actually takes way more than that.
>>343286670
You wait for black Friday and buy the 1070 at 20 off. That's what im doing at least ill buy the cheapest one even power fucking color i don't give a shit.
>>343286796
If you're only playing mobas, 2gb, otherwise get the 4gb, could wait for a 480 since it's about the same price and gets you nearer 970 performance.
>>343286891
You're better off buying something cheaper and then upgrading to something similarly priced in 2-3 years.
A 1080 is a beast now, but it'll be beaten by midrange cards a couple of new architectures down the line.
Don't bother with the 1080 unless you're actually using it for VR or 4k
>>343286993
TDP is defined in different ways. Not exactly sure how nvidia defined it, but average load while gaming is certainly lower than 180W. Peak during furmark obviously goes above it, but I don't think anyone defines TDP like that.
As for 480, its average power draw while gaming is above its TDP as well.
>>343286891
$600 card not last 4 years lmao pc gaming
>>343287131
but when are the new architectures coming? i reckon it ll take at least 3 years for 1080 to be properly beaten. even 780 is a good card today, 2x 1080 will definetaly last 5 years.
>>343282749
>>343283230
HD remake
>>343286586
>>343286649
>>343286825
I want to upgrade next month though. Will the non reference cards be out by then?
>>343283381
https://www.4launch.nl/producten?keyword=gtx+1070
500 Euro equals
555.04 US Dollar
Just fuck my country up senpai.
>>343281191
Nvidia GTX 950 > AMD RX 480
>>343286750
>you can even check out a lot of the driver code
sorry bro i'm not a hacker
>>343287191
Defining the TDP under maximum possible is unhelpful for anything but the marketing department. My MSI 980 Gaming claims it has a TDP of 165W, but this is mind numbingly bullshit. It goes into 200s. Shit is overclocked.
>>343281359
>100W, peaking at 200W
Where is the AMD master race shills now?
>>343281954
>using two
>400W
>Goodbye Motherboard
>>343286847
Cheapest 480 I've seen in Aus is $319 for the 4gb model, which is about on par with US prices.
We don't traditionally get charged high prices for AMD products, but that's probably because nobody buys them.
>>343285815
So, I thought the non founder 1070 cards would be 100dollar cheaper, I dont see that? Does that come later?
>>343287519
>Where is the AMD master race shills now?
Sitting in their sauna's while playing """""high end games""""" on their """""high end equivalent graphic card"""""
>>343286847
Isn't Australia's minimum wage like three times as much as the States'?
>AMD fails again
Oh dear
>>343281359
HAAHHAHAHA
>>343287896
I pity those who buy the AMD meme and don't have air conditioning
It's gonna be africa 50C in their rooms
>>343287964
It's about 2 dollars more
>But the australian dollar is worth 1.5x less
>>343287801
$70.
Cheapest 1070s are $400 now, $20 above MSRP.
>>343287964
According to google, and converted to USD, America is 7.25 and Australia is 12.86.
In 2004 I build my first PC
I fell for the AMD meme and I bought a AMD processor. The avg temperature was 71C and I had a fucking loud cpu fan at max settings
NEVER
AGAIN
>>343282228
>she
>>343288067
It can be a winter computer.
I just got a GTX Titan 6gb for £260 since the 1070 has gutted the pricing for them, did I do well?
Reggie CEO of AMD in 2017
>>343288109
Thanks senpai, do you also know if the gtx 970 will get a pricedrop?
>>343286847
It's around 1000-1200 kebabucks.
1 dollar is around 2.9 liras.We dont gain much money as well
>>343288362
Wow £260, that's like $130 that's a really good price.
>>343288362
>GTX Titan
>260 britcong pound
Whom did you steal?
I'm real happy with my 1080 with an EK water block.
>>343288430
It got a price cut 2 weeks ago. Another one is a bit unlikely.
>OCed draws 200w easily
wew, lad.
>yfw switching from AMD to Nvidia
>Unlike Nvidia, AMD's Radeon RX 480 won't kill support for extreme multi-GPU setups
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3089516/components-graphics/unlike-nvidia-amds-radeon-rx-480-wont-kill-support-for-extreme-multi-gpu-setups.html
>>343288362
GB has no economy right now, i'm surprised he didn't get a 1070 for 300$
>>343283381
400 now 300 on black friday. Whooooo|@2
>>343288362
Titan is about as good as a 970 for video games. 970 can be had for what, £220?
So if you got it for games, you wasted your money.
>GTX 1060
>$250 USD
>2x better than rx480
hold old were you when AMD failed?
>>343288720
That's because you don't need to use 2 nvidia cards to get good performance.
>>343288601
>still 290 euro (340 dollar)
I just made a bid on a used one for 210 (245 dollar)
I just need to last 1.5 year untill the HBM2 cards.
>be canadian
>deliver 25 pizzas per night
>receive cad 9 dollars/hour
move to freedom america
>deliver 30 pizzas per night
>receive 11 dollars hour
>+5 dollar tip for each delivery
Now I can (finally) buy 1070 master race
>>343282073
It'd be still legal to sell as an experimental hobby board without guarantees.
>>343281191
>mfw fell for the rx 480 meme because of you faggots saying it would be like a 980
>tfw cancelled my 1070 preorder
At least I waited before I bought it could have been much worse
>>343289508
AMD MASTER RACE
AMD delivers high quality products for video games
You know how they do that? by using cheap components in the graphic cards they sell your. by doing that they can use the profit to deliver the best for Sony & Microsoft
>>343289659
Wow, that power bar is almost full. That CPU must be really powerful.
>>343281191
>depends on the game
>depends on the game
>at stock it's around 75W
>questionable, depends on the mobo
>uses 120-150W at stock
>true
>they are saying it's an issue with few specific cards, which it is not
>the 110W is the power that the GPU draws, the processor itself, the 150W is the graphics card itself WITH the GPU
How much do you get paid? Who do I write to?
>>343290783
>few specific cards
>>343289659
how do you manage to fuck up that bad?
>>343281749
1070 is for 1440p, anon. or 1080p120fps.
Something like the GTX 970 would be perfect for you. I hope it drops to $200.
>>343289659
>obviously did something wrong with the installation
>ITS TOTALLY AMD's FAULT!
>>343291084
that's arguable. more and more games demand 4+ GB vram.
>>343291141
>installation
>all CPUs handle few seconds of cooler off
>expect AMD
>which burns in less than 10 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSGcnRanYMM
>>343290783
>depends on the game
On average, though "mild oc" is pretty vague.
>at stock it's around 75W
More like 85W.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10,4616-9.html
>uses 120-150W at stock
See above, 164W at stock.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/22.html
163W on average at stock.
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/951-9/consommation-efficacite-energetique.html
164-170W at stock.
No one has gotten values anywhere near 120W.
How much do you get paid?
>>343289735
Nvidia uses the same. Stop making nvidia look bad you utter retard.
>>343291250
Intel =cool beer
AMD= holy fuck the bbq melted
>>343291273
AMD suffers from overheat problems since I build my first PC in 2004 when I used a AMD CPU
People who try to argue with that simply are 13 year olds who pay someone else to build their pcs because they don't even know how to apply thermal paste
>>343281191
This kills the AMD.
Why didn't you listen?
Now Nvidia will release a 1060 and go for the jugular and kill off AMD or if they are good they will just leave AMD cripped to avoid litigations for monopoly,
Nvidia, at this point they don't even need to make the GP106,l they could easily match the 480 with a cutdown die from chipset that failed to make the cut to 1070/1080 and still have better performance/watt.
>>343281191
>worse than more expensive cards
Is this really the first thing you wanted to list?
>>343291761
>Now Nvidia will release a 1060 and go for the jugular and kill off AMD or if they are good they will just leave AMD cripped to avoid litigations for monopoly,
There is a market for AMD
1) Cheap builds
2) People who have absolutely 0 idea about PCs and buy the cheaper one
3) People who buy what journalists say
Usually what journalists say is this:
"Oh don't worry AMD is good, is a great value for your dollar, it's just not as powerful but it's a great deal don't worry"
99,9% of the time the same people who say this have Nivida GPUs and Intel CPUs.
>>343291761
>Every new generation of nvidia chips beat the previous generation by leaps and bounds.
>Every new generation of AMD chips pull the same performance as the previous generation.
This is why everyone prefers nvidia.
>>343291960
That's the market they've been going for since 2006.
See for yourself how well it worked out for them.
>>343291960
Depends on whether nVidia wants to just make a lot of money, or whether they want to take away the prestige of having the bang-for-the-buck-crown away from AMD.
The latter would hurt AMD more. Bang-for-the-buck is everything AMD stands for. Intel did exactly that with the Core2Duo E6600. They went straight for AMD’s jugular, and priced it at about half of what AMD charged for a similar performing Athlon64. AMD is still feeling that one.
AMD is literally on borrowed time, in hands of the merciful hands of Nvidia.
>>343281191
>tfw reference rx 480 costs almost as much as slightly oc asus 390x in my country
what a fucking joke
guess i'm going to buy 390x then
>>343292035
Actually is a bit earlier than that
I said I build my first PC in 2004 but no, it was in 2003.
August 2003 and the seller used that tactic with me "oh it's a great value for your money"
Back then I didn't make much money and it took me another 3,5 years to finally build a decent PC
>>343291761
RX480 will dominate in its mid range market.
Nvidia won't release that 1060 shit until next year
>tfw 1070's founders is CHEAPER than any other in this country.
On what fucking principle?
> amd
hurr let's release some mid range trash
>nvidia
alright lets make some powerful shit people can afford.
Sometimes i hate being an amd fag but i got my 390 i year ago so it doesnt really matter what they do now
>>343281191
>200W wattage
It's a feature, so it can overclock more.
>>343281612
>They are like a bitch who's got a great personality but when you get her home she reveals she has a dick and it's bigger than yours.
So, um.... What are you supposed to do in that situation?
>>343281191
I like the RX480.
I would buy it, if it'd cost less than 270€ (Which is pretty much the same price as a fucking 970GTX)
>>343292605
At least you got the 390 and not this. Dodged a bullet there anon
>>343292434
You never know.
The GP106 was spotted months ago.
Not to mention the 1080/1070 came otu of nowhere and also the chips in the 1080 are from week 16 of the year.
Besides.
http://videocardz.com/61583/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-to-be-released-on-july-7th
https://www.nvidia.com/content/apac/event/au/pascal-launch/
>>343292749
Do what any gentleman would do and give a reach around.
>>343281191
Another German website confirms the increased power draw at stock clocks
>http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Polaris-ist-da-AMD-Grafikkarte-Radeon-RX-480-mit-hoher-Spieleleistung-und-einem-Makel-3251042.html?wt_mc=rss.ho.beitrag.atom
>In games, the Radeon RX 480 exceeds 150 Watt thermal design power and PCIe specification. On average, we have 156 watts measured at games, in Furmark the card even pulls at reduced clock 169 watts. Extremely problematic is the fact that the Radeon RX 480 draws up to 88 watts from motherboard slot, although specifications only allow 75 watts.
>>343292753
I actually saw the GTX970 as low as 220€ recently lel
>>343293000
>in Furmark the card even pulls at reduced clock 169 watts
>reduced clock
>REDUCED
It just goes from bad to worse.
Time to sell my 970 then. I was keeping it as backup but now seems a good time to rid
>>343293047
Got a Link?
>>343281191
I just want a quiet, cool, power efficient, upper low end card that dosent cost more than 200$.
Is that really too much asked for?
Looks pretty decent for a 200 freedomdollar card
Probably waiting for the 1080ti, though
1060 when
1060 WHEN
>>343292781
Thanks. It's my first real non integrated GPU. I expexted more but it's pretty amazing, coming from an amd HD 3450 amd a ps4.
Alright im done blogging
>>343293338
July 7th
So are we now finally at the point where we need to hook up a separate power supply just for video cards?
If so, should probably run a 240v line in case I buy AMD.
i see you nerds will get angry over anything
but for nonwizards the rx480 is a legendary card
regular people dont want to spend thousands on the newest and most OP gaming hardware just to be able to play metro last light at 100 fps instead of 60
>>343293221
> quiet, cool, power efficient
GTX 950 & GTX 960 are your best options
>>343293141
If you throw away the money to side grade a GTX 970 to this, then you're the biggest fool in this thread.
>checking prices in Norway
>970 is cheaper than 480
what the shit ?
>>343293481
It's a legendary card for deluded poorfags.
>>343293535
Yeah im not sure where I said what my other card was (I said I was keeping it as backup). I guess my 1080 is a bit of a sidestep
>>343293221
960 or 380/x?
>>343293221
Fucking yes, dude.
You're asking for way too much.
>>343293481
>rx480 is a legendary card
In which extent?
It's worthless for 1440p gaming and while it's good for 1080p, it's way better to stick with Nvidia and save money for the 1060
>>343293505
Isn't there a huge difference between the 950 and 960?
>>343293615
When you post in a thread without context, it's always assumed the gaps ARE the topic.
>>343293681
You're right if the 1060 is as good as people are hoping and is only $250-270
>>343292605
Actually nvidia is about making power efficient cards much like Intel cpu. By doing so you'll end up with better performance, less heat.
>>343293710
The difference is quite noticeable anon
>>343293747
Then you goofed. Never assume.
People here are discussing the 970 being better hence me possibly selling my old one.
>>343293834
That's why you speak clearly and directly on topics. Middle School English class basics.
A trash card for poorfags who claim to be
>hardcore gamers
Keep dreaming AMDrones
>>343293505
lol
I want to say something but "people" dumb enough to fell for the 950/960 kinda deserve it
>>343293902
Middle school?
Theres two, primary & secondary
>>343293934
Regarding power efficiency and almost no noise there is no better option than 960 and 950 for under 200 dollars you retard
>it's an AMDfags hype an upcoming card which will revolutionize the industry only to be BTFO episode
OH WAIT THAT'S THE ENTIRE FUCKING SEASON
>>343293681
480 is around 10-15% worse to 1070 in every benchmark you can find
the 1060 wont be better than that
>>343294069
That's why you should wait and buy 1060 or wait 2 years for 1070 drop in price
>>343294069
>480 is around 10-15% worse
Anon 50% != 15%
Are you so in awe of Raja's loo you forget how to count?
I want to upgrade from GTX 750
What's the best GPU I can get for 300€ or less?
>>343293786
I know anon, i didn't mean to imply they were inefficient. Thanks for clearing it up for other anons though.
>>343294142
why would you buy the 1060 if rx480 is better?
Can't Nvidia cuck Pajeet & Co. by just lowering the 970's MSRP?
Fucking nvidia shills out in force.
How much did it cost for them to buy out the reviewers this time?
>>343294171
Buy 970 from any american store and you will save about 40 euros
>>343294320
>if rx480 is better?
Better than what?
So what card do I spend my $200 on?
>>343294340
Yes, but that's not a long term plan. I doubt they want to keep making them.
>>343294363
1060 you fucking retard
>>343294069
>480 is around 10-15% worse to 1070 in every benchmark you can find
kek'd hard
>>343294365
none, nvidrones keep saying 970 which is $250. There is no other 1080/60 card
>>343294426
How do you know? you have the 1060 specs to compare to rx 480?
>>343294363
I don't want to pay more than 200€ for 3.5 Gb of vram
>/v/ said to me that PC mustard rise was free of stupid senseless console wars
>all this graphic card wars threads
I'm still getting into PC gayming but you are a bunch of deluded fucks just like console babies.
Fuck you all.
its rumored that nvidia pushes the 1060 release to july
if its true, it will be the last nail in the coffin for amd
>>343294525
>200€
Then buy the RX 480 and be happy using it as a heater in winter
>>343294551
Here's all you need to know.
Nvidia=Sony
AMD=Nintendo
>>343294551
it's just part of consumerist culture. people need to justify their choices and the only way you can do that is to try to shit on the alternative.
>>343281191
This literally happened with the ASUS version of the 750ti and Tom's Hardware turned around and recommended the card lel.
Keep up the good work, goyim.
>>343294551
the fact that so many nerds swear to nvidia is retarded
they are basicly bullying amd into bankruptcy and will soon create monopoly and your next gen cards will be 2k$ instead of 500$
>>343294818
>they are basicly bullying amd into bankruptcy
/v/ has the power to bankrupt AMD..
If that was true Nintendo would be already making games for Sony
>>343294365
I really want to know...if I'm not supposed to buy an rx 480 what should I buy...
i have a R9 390 and i dont plan on updating this gen
how long will this card hold out because i dont want to update until its absolutely necessary
