yoo, what do ya guys think of it?
Its alrighty, but hearing generic horror ambient music feels wierd, the original soundtrack added that unique feel of funky cyberpunk adventure.
>>343281002
Doesn't seem to be much of a horror, runs like shit, controls are floaty as hell. Sure seems like pre-alpha, basically.
It looks like someone ate a pack of crayons, vomited on illuminated glass and called it art
>>343281002
I'm waiting for System Shock 3
I hope they keep thetechno music
>>343281002
>we want the Let's Play audience
My only real gripe is the soundtrack, not saying that the original soundtrack was perfect or requisite at all, but I feel like some kind of Electronic themes would be a much better fit
Orchestral music just seems too 'organic' I guess
>>343281002
is is SS or SS2 remaster?
>>343281785
system shock 1 mate
>>343281834
i haven't played SS so i guess now i'll have a good chance
>>343281002
It's great.
>>343281002
It looks pretty faithful visually, in a good way. I want to know: can I still belly crawl, and what does cyberspace look like?
>>343281932
just get the enhanced version on steam, it's only $2.49 right now
SS2 is on sale too for the same price
>>343281381
They aren't, let's hope mods fix that. I could understand an updated version with modern synths, but not removal.
>>343281002
It's alright. Some actions like attacking with the pipe seemed a bit laggy though.
2 WEAPON LIMIT
>>343282072
nah, fuck it, SS is too old, i won't bother
i've tried playing SS2 like 4 times and never got into it
>>343282343
Did you remember to change the tank controls?
i watched a friend play it, looks like Dead Space.
mite b cool
i hope they keep rebuilding the demo as they progress further into development.
>>343282405
it wasn't controls. i don't know why i always give up after 1-2 hours and never go back.
>>343282405
I dont think he means the controls, it just looks like shit and the mdos dont help, its probably a good game but id much rather play the newer version.
>>343282659
Yeah it's SS1 that's getting a remaster. I could tolerate SS2 graphics but not SS1, that HUD is the worst of all time
>>343282430
If Dead Space was slow as shit and a rainbow of colorful bloom
>Remake the System Shock game that no one liked or played
T-thanks, Nightdive
>>343283438
if anything all this remaster serves is to introduce new players to a franchise (and thus ss3) they likely have no idea exists because in their minds anything made before 2010 may as well be 8 bit side scrollers
>>343281351
Well yeah cuz it is a pre alpha
>>343281002
>Love classic FPS games; Doom, Quake, Duke, Heretic
>Never got around to playing SS
>Always felt like I'd be too spooked to play it
I'm kind of a baby when it comes to games with spooky atmospheres, is SS thick with NOPE material or is it more like Quake where it's got the style and atmosphere but doesn't try to intentionally spook you out? I should get around to playing it some time.
>>343282430
No it doesn't
>>343284485
It's kind of spooky at first, but you get used to eventually like every horror game after playing it for awhile.
>>343282769
the hud is fine you gay retard especially with fullscreen mode
interaction with the hud and the leaning/crouching shit is a key part of gameplay
play more ultima underworld
>>343284485
System Shock isn't remotely similar to classic FPS, and it's not a horror game. It has spooky shit, but it ain't horror
Looks like absolute garbage by today's standards
>>343284638
It looks like garbage and it's clunky as fuck. Thank god the remaster is fixing this
>play more ultima underworld
No
>>343284485
Action horror games aren't scary, they're tense, just remember you can kill anything that tries to spook you.
>>343284485
i never really felt scared in SS and it doesnt really try. But it makes you cautious of surprises and enemies attacking at odd angels, which is part of whats so fun about it
>>343283438
Not that that's even true, but isn't that the best way? If you remake the fan-favourite classic everyone's going to bitch about how it's not exactly the same. Which they did when this was announced.
>>343284827
Im bitching more about how it plays like Bioshock
Level design is wasted if you take out all the creeping around.
>>343282769
>I could tolerate SS2 graphics but not SS1
There's nothing wrong with the graphics (I think it looks nicer than SS2), it's the interface and controls that are shit. Turning it into a real first person shooter is a great idea.
>>343284485
It's spooky in the sense that you're alone on a derelict space station that's been overrun with mutant zombies and robots, and it's very stressful in general with constant ambushes and those "man i just know there's gonna be some shit down there" moments, but it doesn't really go out of its way to scare you.
>>343285027
press e to mouse look
>>343284638
>It's shit by design!
>>343285027
>There's nothing wrong with the graphics (I think it looks nicer than SS2)
Nah
>>343285091
no its good by design
>>343284485
>SS2 is spooky meme
There's some tension going on on the levels, but the game is defo not scary at all
>>343283438
>no one liked or played
>top project on kikestarter atm
>We're planning an update early next week that will fix various issues and bugs you've encountered while adding in a few additional features for you to experiment with.
p. cool, may be grenades will work this time
ss2 is a meme game
only people this remake appeals to are bioshock fans who heard about how much they should like sysem shock and how its their favorite horror series because theyre horror games
>>343285634
better be classic mode
The original System Shock UI is a part of experience, even though it's clunky, it definitely feels cyberpunky. The first time I beat it without mouselook and it felt like I was playing a space sim or something. The second time I beat it with mouselook and it was totally comfortable to me, it was more like SS2 or Arx Fatalis kind of thing which I really like in games. I was pretty excited for the remake until they announced a Kikestarter for it, now I'm a lot more cautious. I can't run the demo because I don't have a DX11 card, but from what I've seen on videos, it looks really good. I just feel like they're shoving that horror vibe into it which wasn't really a thing till SS2. If I were to make a movie comparison, SS1 would be Die Hard and SS2 would be Alien, in regards to the general feel. You're not really supposed to feel like a helpless bitch in any of those games, since in 1 you're a badass hacker who actually created SHODAN and got enhanced with a military grade cyber rig for it. It's like a more reserved, cyberpunky Doom.
Reminder not to buy Enhanced Edition, as System Shock Portable is the same thing and was free for years before the EE cash-in.
>>343285645
Gee Bill! How come your mom lets you insult two fanbases?
>>343284485
>Love classic FPS games; Doom, Quake, Duke, Heretic
If you by chance played Doom 3 (original, not the expasion pack), there will be nothing surprising in SS.
But again Doom 3 was far from original Doom concept and played like a survival horror at he moments.
Pickup animations need to be sped up or completely removed.
>>343285027
>>343282769
>>343282343
>>343283438
kys
>>343281002
It feels kinda soulless to be honest.
I can easily see them trimming away the clunky mess of the original to make something that looks a whole lot better, but in doing so lose the stuff that made the game interesting.
Turning it into a standard FPS would just be missing the point.
>>343286276
>Turning it into a standard FPS would just be missing the point.
I'm considering to pledge 150€ to get dev forum access to convince them to keep the point and click elements. At least for the inventory and weapon settings like SS2.
Old news retards
>>343281002
they wanna make the ss1 remake into ss2
It's pretty cool but isn't gonna replace the original
and they fucked up having an orchestral score rather than remixed tunes and then adding them as a stretch goal
>>343284485
it's nothing like a typical fps
think of it more like a first person metroidvania or dungeon crawler without the rpg stuff and also controls like a dungeon crawler (literally ultima underworld)
ss2 shitters hate it because it's not like a typical run and gun action game
>>343281204
https://soundcloud.com/nightdivestudios/system-shock-soundtrack-zircon-jonathan-peros-ethical-constraints-removed-ss-intro-remix
sounds great to me
i love cyberpunk DnB
>>343286246
They are played once in a playthrough, It's only a problem because demo is 5 minutes long and people replay it over and over again
>>343282621
maybe you're a pleb
>>343286339
>point and click elements
>At least for the inventory and weapon settings like SS2
You have zero clue what point and click stands for.
Inventory already works exactly like in ss2, it's just bare bones and lack proper textures.
Weapon settings are also already in the game, beam spark has 4 firing modes (although feels like just two). I assume you just want to change modes with hud button rather than key bind.
>>343286637
This sounds pretty damn good desu familia. Isn't it just an extra thing though and not the official soundtrack?
>>343287003
>Inventory already works exactly like in ss2, it's just bare bones and lack proper textures.
No it doesn't, you fucking mongoloid. You can't drag items from and to the game world, because the inventory takes up the entire fucking screen. You also can't toggle weapon settings on the hud anymore.
>>343287003
>I assume you just want to change modes with hud button rather than key bind.
Exactly. It's what makes SS1 and 2 comfy as fuck. It's also delightfully unique. Never seen that in any other game.
It's not that the graphics are the greatest thing ever, but it looks really appealing. Must be the colors or something.
>>343287003
you know he means having the mouse seperate from the camera controls s click and drag stuff in the enviroment to interact with it including the hud sections
it's far more immersive for the player than "look at thing and press E"
>>343287152
>You can't drag items to the game world
Yes you can, you fucking mongoloid
What's the deal with Enhanced Edition? I heard there was a portable version that supported widescreen and mouselook and all that, but was taken down when new publishers got their hands on the IP.
Is Enhanced Edition basically that, or do I need to try and find the old abandonware version?
>>343284485
It's unnerving, but not scary.
Not much other than It's too hard for Polygon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoK6SDYRHdk
>>343287432
How? The Inventory takes up the entire screen.
>>343287256
>It's what makes SS1 and 2 comfy as fuck
When will this meme die?
>>343287447
>System Shock can now be purchased at GOG (and Steam), as result, SSP cannot be distributed in its original form (including copyrighted game data). SSP has been converted into SSPtool - a simple installer that will create a copy of SSP on your hard drive as long as you provide it with your own original game data (CD, or GOG classic edition). The resulting SSP install is identical to what has been available before the original full download had to be removed (SSP 1.2.3).
So yeah, basically EE is just SSP being sold after they got the rights.
>>343287549
>When will this meme die?
When will THIS meme die?
>>343287516
>wow it has audio logs like in Gone Home!!111
>>343287527
Inventory area is only the item grid, the rest of the space is considered game world (it's just covered with dot pattern texture)
>>343287447
heres the deal with enhanced
>ss1 has been abandonware forever and modders freely distribute the game along with dosbox and mods in a package called "portable"
there is also a seperate project called SHLink to get ss1 working natively on windows
>nightdive acquire the rights to ss1
>modders take down portable at the request of nightdive
>nightdive work with modders and SHLINK guy to release EE which is just SHLINK + most of the mods that portable had
the old mods are still available as well as legacy versions of SHLINK so i don't know why some people get so upset about this, they could have just dumped it on steam with dosbox and called it a day...
>>343287648
If you drop and item it always spawn from the same location and not where so mouse is (like it did in the original). Also if you allow the player to decouple the view from the cursor, you can aim and shoot while browsing your inventory.
>>343285086
Aren't you funny.
I keep crashing before the long hallway with mutant in the end, anyone else? It worked fine the first time i played, now it always crashes there
>>343288359
I think the end of the demo is just after that so you are not missing much.
So it's not just orchestral shit?
https://twitter.com/jonathanperos/status/747644558184452096
>>343281002
I expect to be disappointed. The original System Shock tried to be many things; being an FPS was just part of it.
Whereas this feels like they'll make a paint-by-numbers FPS and bolt on whatever stretch goals they meet.
No mention of cyberspace is a bit of a worry.
>>343289040
I guess not but what the fuck is that dnb?
the tunes should be groovy rather than energetic
>>343289231
yeah i have a feeling they will completely redo cyberspace and probably won't even bother with the MFD minigames
>DOOM
>System Shock
My, oh my... Quake when?
>>343290076
Don't you mean Quakeborn?
>>343290076
This year's E3, dog, where've you been?
>demo is 5 minutes long instead of just being the entire floor
>no shodan insulting the player until he has an orgasm
>>343290271
>>343290307
Oh shit, I took a break from video games in awhile. That's fucking rad.
perfect for cucks and nu-males who can't deal with """""""""""""aged"""""""""""""" games. The original was fine and still is fine. The idea that games "age" is retarded.
>>343282343
ss1 is way better than ss2
>>343290378
You DID want a hero shooter in your Quake, right?
>>343290441
Uh, you mean abilities and stuff? Not really...
>>343290486
Too bad
>>343287516
I SHOT THE ZOMBIE POINT BLANK AND IT DOES NOTHING FUCKING BROKEN GAME MECHANICS
>>343289392
I suspect there simply won't be any cyberspace. Unless it's hidden in one of the stretch goals we can't see yet.
>>343287116
Cybernetika is great too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_jbpeEREvM
>>343290520
Well, I'm fine with it anyway.
>Implying anyone on this board was even born when System Shock 1 came out
I'm too old for this shithole
I like it
>>343290646
>Everyone is underage except for me
Cool meme gramps but shouldn't you be at the communal room playing bingo or something?
>>343290321
Showcasing the graphics is more important.
>>343290854
Nah I'm busy playing System Shock because apparently it's too old for /v/
>>343291035
You shouldn't hog the communal PC or do they let you bring your own stuff to the nursing home?
>>343290646
truth is most people on 4chan aren't older than 16-18
>>343290646
time for bed abuelito
>>343289392
>groovy rather than energetic
the fuck is even supposed to mean, groovy is energetic by default, dnb is groovy
>>343284640
i dont think you understand the concept of horror
also that enhanced version of system shock - does it have higher resolutions than stock?
>>343290321
>demo is 5 minutes long instead of just being the entire game
It's like they aren't even trying
>>343291513
the root word of groovy is groove, which is a shallow engraving on a surface, which can also be construed as a shallow movement of one's body
DnB does not make one want to groove
>>343290631
i'm liking this
ayy
>>343292052
JUST
Game looks unremarkable so far and the people making it don't look very reliable. I think it'll turn out to be pretty average.
>>343291532
This isn't a literary medium
>>343281002
>Unity Engine
Stopped reading the kickstarter there, closed the tab.
>>343292547
horror is an emotion, bruv
Dont know why but i keep getting crashes when i kill the repair bot at the bottom of the ladder. Its good but i cant say much if its having a lot of technical difficulties with everyone else.
I liked the demo and thought the pixelated textures combined with the lighting and everything made it look really cool. The combat was clearly not that great but all I really want from this game is for the combat to be tolerable enough that it doesn't detract from experiencing the environments, story, etc. and I felt like the combat was already at that level.
>>343292693
So is spooked
>>343292606
Yeah, it looks like a game from the mid 2000s yet it runs at sub 30 FPS on your average rig, it sucks.
>>343292146
KANGZwait is that not the right meme?
>>343292950
spooked is an adjective
"dat nigga look spooked"
horror is noun
i mean you ever seen anyone say "dat nigga got horrored"?
well anyway im not gonna continue on with the semantics speech
horror is just an intense feeling of fear, shock or disgust
if you feel like that while playing any game, you are horrified and if the game was made intentionally for you to feel that way then it's a horror game
>>343293283
You should learn semantics first
>>343293470
stay in school son
>>343284485
Way more like Quake
SS1 isn't scary at all
>>343281002
good job OP nobody fucking knows that game
some poeple...
>>343286637
eh...
I liked Chicajo's remixes better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPoeM2jNlrI
anyone know where i can get a hq version of the MACversion ost?
>>343286260
i too have not been playing it as much as id like. only 4 hours in
>>343292052
I fucking hate these people so much
>>343296252
weird
when i found out there was a mouse look mod for system shock, i loaded it all up and binged on the game
not many games make me want to binge play them
>>343296438
>mouse look mod
Doesn't the Enhanced Edition have native mouselook in it? Or are you DOSboxing it up?
>>343296960
enhanced edition is a collaboration between nightdive and systemshock.org modders
it's basically SHLINK + mods for the dosbox
>>343296960
i played it before the game got re-released as enhanced
>Stephen Kick, the CEO of Nightdive Studios and Creative Director on System Shock
the business guy who has never made a game and has a massive hard on for ss2 is the "creative director"
>>343286637
sick wubs
>>343297958
good, more butthurt ss1farts
*DONG-DING*
>>343299447
maybe if they dont reach their goal theyll release it for free but without any bells and whistles no one fucking asked for (reboot)
>>343299447
only a million more before you can have most of the gameplay features from the original goy, maybe youll get a vending machine, and if you are lucky we will allow you to have more than 2 weapon loadouts
>>343300084
You'll have Citadel for that.
>>343300364
Thanks, looking forward to it
>>343300084
No chance, they'll hit the goal with ease at this rate.
Best we can hope for is that they open it up for modding.
>>343300494
>>343283438
SHIT TASTE UNDER AGE DETECTED
Wew,are you even TRYING?!!
>>343300494
>You'll have Citadel for that.
i dont gather your meaning
>>343300929
citadel is an open source 1:1 remake inunity
>>343300494
>You'll have Citadel for that.
Is there a slightly more faithful remake project going on?
Seems like the sort of thing Nightdive would quickly put a stop to.
>>343300798
We at NightDive studios are very sensitive to memes, please don't hurt us
>>343300929
http://www.moddb.com/games/citadel
(just noticed it also uses unity lmao)
>>343301087
Nuts to that.
I'll go make my own.
>>343301087
>>343301134
HO FUCK WHY AM I HEARING ABOUT THIS ONLY NOW
well ill check it out but im not expecting graphics like the reboot
>>343281002
I worry that it will strip away the complexities of the original so normies can pretend they've played System Shock.
You know, like Fallout.
>>343301268
it looks exactly like original, just crispier and it's proper 3d, this is what you wanted right?
>>343301091
I thought that too but it will probably just require the original assets to use
it's supposed to have co-op and deathmatch too and being open source it would be possible to make your own singleplayer campaigns and such
>>343301268
It has been around for years it was originally going to be on darkplaces (quake engine) but switched to unity to make things easier
>>343301380
Some stuff in the old System Shocks were fucking clunky though so hopefully they'll streamline it a bit.
>>343301446
>>343301457
what source assets are they using (win or Mac) or are they recreating it from scratch?
>>343301380
Yeah man, i mean, how can i live without 10 variations of crouch and lean. I hope each will have it's own button.
>>343301663
I dunno you can get it all from the github page if you want
i don't see why it couldn't use some of the improved mac assets though
>>343301091
Nightdive okayed it, it's in ceo's ribbit ama
>>343301663
Not sure, but all models are brand new since they're 3d
>>343281002
Didn't play the demo yet but it looks fucking great. Looks pretty close to a 1:1 replication aside from modernized controls, which is exactly what I want from this.
SS1 was better than SS2, so I'm looking forward to it.
>>343301380
It will happen to every game series that you hold dear eventually.
Can't wait till they make an fps reimagining of Planescape.
>>343285142
No it's shit
Maybe it was almost decent 22 years ago, but the times, they are a-changin'
>>343301891
>fps reimagining of Planescape
If done by a competent dev, that could be awesome.
>>343302548
>but the times, they are a-changin'
I dislike the way they're making it like Shock 2 instead of the original
>>343281204
It sounded pretty goofy, though.
>>343283438
It's the best one though
>>343302868
That's not a valid opinion.
>>343302548
yes these streamlined modern games are just so much better than the old ones
>>343302752
i love it
>>343302548
gamers are so much smarter than they were 20 years ago
>>343303434
>YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS TO COMPLY
>doesn't go upsstairs
>9.. 8...
>>343301617
the clunk was what made it fun
they should have just remade 2. 1 is never going to work in 2016 and 2 has the whole DUDE HORROR LMAO shit going on
>>343303434
the bottom one i always have trouble believing
>>343303091
>>343303434
I was hoping there would be more time before System Shock got this treatment.
Oh well, maybe in another 2 decades.
>>343292052
Whoa.
She's even transliterated the chat into hacker text.
I backed it, although I fully expect it to suck
Best control scheme for SS2 lads?
Got 7 fps on menu. Put resolution to 800x600 and I got 17. Played through it. Bugged inventory, grenades don't work (or should they be thrown like in the original, or am I missing something)?, obviously shit optimization. Alien Isolation runs on 45 fps 1366x768.
Seemed ok. Slower paced than original, which is nice for a change. And nice to see some color as well, not brown and mud all the time.
>>343303842
SS1 isn't horror?
>>343281002
it looks like it's actually playable
>>343305521
not primarily
>>343305114
Alien Isolation is the best port of the generation and this is literally pre-alpha
>there's going to be puritanical shitheads who complain about mouselook being in the game
I wonder how many of them will be ITTs
>>343306092
I know. It is fucking solid. Yeah, and even if the ending product would run like that, I'd propably still get it.
>>343303842
>the clunk was what made it fun
>>343306262
no there isn't shut up
>>343308003
It's supposed to control and play like shit, this is their version of the tank controls in RE
>>343308206
You have some serious case of stockholm syndrome
>>343308206
>It's supposed to control and play like shit
bait works best when it's subtle, it doesn't work when people can see how hard you're trolling
>>343308292
No it's supposed to be bad, you just don't get it
>>343308694
>I know nothing about game design but still post on a board about videogames
>>343308789
you're are a real good trol bait guy that's for sure ;)
>>343309090
>le funneh anime reaction image
Leave.
>>343281351
Maybe you shouldn't run it on a fucking toaster, Pavel.
>>343309212
No need to get angry, maybe go to bed and have a rest you're clearly sleep deprived and rambling like an insane person.
I'm really interested in the concept of this but they want to bloat it with crafting mechanics and other unnecessary shit that wasn't in the original, which I'm not okay with.
>>343309448
I am not angry. You do not evoke any emotion in me, you are beneath that. Yes, I would murder an anime faggot, but I would do so with a perfectly calm, stone cold look on my face.
>>343309770
savage
>>343281002
I lost the ability to feel hype for anything a long time ago. System Shock is one of my all time favorites, but reading the kickstarter just fills me with dread that they're going to get it horribly wrong.
>>343309770
I actually laughed, thanks, the reality is you're either overweight or underweight with a mentality like that and this is almost as sad as the "game is meant to be bad" trolling, you look ridiculous please keep posting.
>>343281002
DOA
Based Todd is making the real System Shock.
Slaughtering indies one studios at a time. Gentrify the video game industry and improve standard in video game making
>>343310391
>you're overweight
And this matters...Why?
>>343311858
>Based Todd
It's made by Arkane
>>343312091
>...with a mentality like that
I'm just saying it's obvious that you'd (he'd) act like and be unhealthy because usually mental health issues are exacerbated by physical ones. idc I just find it funny
>>343281932
I hope you're not saying you're going to wait and play the remaster. Because it's going to be dumbed down garbage for babies.
>>343312161
arkane is in france
todd is in glorious USA
arkane austin is in glorious USA
>>343312997
SS1 being needlessly complicated didn't make it a good game.
>>343313680
ss1 isn't complicated, you are just an idiot
>>343312997
I'm normally against streamlining and what not....but System Shock's UI and controls have aged like milk. Enhanced edition improves it somewhat, but is still pretty clunky. Theres a reason why System Shock 2 moved with the times in this regard.
>>343314329
Them redoing the UI I can understand. It's stuff like rewriting the story that leaves me puzzled.
>>343281002
Nothing wrong with Unity3D when it is used correctly, but using it to make a graphically intensive first-person game is not the correct way to use it.
Too bad.
>>343315357
would be curious to see this made in CryEngine but I think the game looks fine right now and I think it'll only improve I've not got much exp in unity maybe it'll be shit, runs fine on my Xeon/GTX970 combo
I hope they reach the 1.7m goal. Otherwise it'll be too watered down.
