I have not played this for years. Should i get in to it again? Has there been any big updates? Last time i played was bombnicom and pyro update.
>>343277918
THIS SO MUCH.
holy shit TF2 is garbage. EVEN IF IT'S FREE do not touch it with a ten foot pole. Overwatch is the best classed based fps in the past decade.
>>343277918
>over 48k online
This game has more active players than Overwatch ever had
>>343278206
OVER 10 MILLION AND COUNTING
bug off nerd!
>>343277616
I picked it back after I stopped on 2012 and not much changed desu. There are less community servers, more hats and a few more weapons and maps, but the core game is still the same.
>>343277616
Post your favorite class/weapon/map
>Heavy
>Widowmaker
>Badwater
>>343277616
Team Fortress 2 is a dead game. Buy Overwatchâ„¢ instead. It will fulfill your needs for an ultra-fast-paced shooter.
>>343278818
I knew I shouldn't have written that. Dumb frog poster
>>343278930
Do what the man says OP.
Why play TF2 when you could get something 100 times better like Overwatchâ„¢ for the low, low price of $39.99?
>>343279058
Yeah, considering how much TF2 jews you on hats and cosmetics, Overwatch is the better buy.
>replies: 11
>posters: 6
HMMMM
This is good thread
>>343279058
Don't forget you can buy Overwatchâ„¢ Origins Edition for $59.99 and get exclusive skins for many of the heroes!
>>343279130
Keep walking anon if you know what's good for you. And what's good for you is a healthy dose of Overwatch.
How are you gonna look me in the eye and tell me summerfags aren't real?
>>343277616
You already have the game so why not. Game's still fun (for me anyway).If there's one thing that TF2 did right when compared to Overwatch is that you can just join in and out of servers anytime you want without handicapping your team that much, mainly because the game isn't restricted to 6 vs 6 matches. Also, I like it how TF2 can show you some servers and letting you pick what server you want to join without opening the game. It's pretty nifty.
>>343278741
>Heavy
>Holiday Punch
>Thunder Mountain
>>343279717
Anon, look me in the eyes and promise me you'll buy Overwatch.
>ironically shilling
Now this is why I come to /v/ for
>>343277918
>>343278138
>>343278264
>>343278818
>>343279042
>>343279123
>>343279245
>>343279787
>dumb frogposter spouting shit everywhere
>20 replies
>10 posters
please kill yourself ASAP
>>343280006
ITS NOT IRONIC YOU VALVE SHILL
that's it I'm leaving this garbage forum.
Anyone who wants to have FUN is welcome to purchase Overwatch.
>>343277918
stop trying to make overwatch happen.
It's a shit game and you all know it.
>>343277918
playing a game that has 1 mode.. yeah fuck that
>>343280521
HEY
Cut that shit out. Overwhelming score from critics, taking over the east e sports scene, tanking dead fps franchises, toppling record sales.
IT
IS
NOT
SHIT
Lemme ask you this OP; do you want to play again?
Like, are you actually interested in revisiting the game for the game itself, or are you only interested in going back for new content?
There were some small things added, but the only major thing worth coming back to the game if you've been gone a long time is Mann vs. Machine, and I'm not even sure if that was in the game before you left it or not. Otherwise it's just been some weapons and maps and hats, but nothing incredibly major.
If you have a hankering to play the game again, then I'd say yeah go for it. You can still have fun with it, it's decently populated. But if you only want to play to experience the new content you haven't played already, there isn't much there.
>>343278434
Great to hear that i mainly main Spy and Engineer. Also its nice to see all the kids to switched to Overwatch so i don't have to watch them in TF2 anymore.
>>343280804
I want to play it again. I played it so much last i didn't feel fun anymore so quit it. but i guess now that i keep long break from it i can have some fun again.
>>343277616
Big update on the way. Slin, b4nny and geel have all said it's big, and that they can't give specifics but that they like the look of it, and it DOES include competitive matchmaking and it DOES contain some sort of other thing for people who prefer playing casually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYxGGI8O8JM
>>343280804
>Lemme ask you this OP; do you want to play again?
Can't you see that he wants to play Overwatch?
>>343278741
>Soldier
>Loose Cannon
>koth_sawmill
>>343280948
They also said Gun Mettle was gonna be big too, remember?
>>343278741
Demoman
Short Circuit
cp_steel
>>343278741
>Spy
>Eternal Rewards
>Any playload map.
>>343281041
>>343280975
>>343279769
Do us a favor and leave. There is nothing worth favoriting in TF2
>>343281017
Not him but Gun Mettle was what got me back into TF2. I don't even use skinned weapons, the new maps and balance changes were just that good.
>>343280970
There's no need to try and aggressively force people to play Overwatch, it's not Battleborn. It doesn't need your help, it has a healthy player base.
>>343281017
Who? I don't remember b4nny, slin or anyone from the competetive scene hyping up Gun Mettle.
>>343281219
i would appreciate it if u left please and thank u
>>343281263
I was gonna say something along these lines. Gun Mettle accomplished what it set out to do.
>>343278264
On all platforms. TF2 has 2 million players on PC alone. And that number is going up, not down.
>>343281263
>>343281279
>Skins
Is this CS:GO
Why do people defend this game?
>>343277616
MvM is pretty cool. The higher levels are very challenging and require a good team. It's tower defense with upgrades. Otherwise it's pretty much the same, some new maps like power_house are much more balanced than old ones.
Competitive mode is in beta right now, you can join with a free ticket from someone, but requires a steam authentication on your phone to join until it goes live
>>343281263
The fun from those maps lasted, what, a week before they got stale just like the rest of the tired old maps?
And the balances? Lasted a little longer than that, but still devolved into boringness. There was barely anything new brought to the table, and now they only provide content from the community at most.
>>343281279
Literally everyone did. Even the retired folk.
>>343280909
The comp update is expected to come out today and from what I've played in the beta the gamemode is really good. Now is the best time to return to TF2.
>>343281413
He means these skins.
>>343281494
>it's just the same old shit except ranked
REALLY GOOD
>>343279058
>he didnt pay for tf2
>>343281586
>man i love this shitty WWI hat
>>343281545
>pubs are 6v6
what
It also wasn't filled to the brim with casual shitters. People actually used their mics and coordinated together. I don't know in what way 6v6 is similiar to a pub.
>>343281691
Okay hold on let me rephrase that
>it's the same old shit except ranked with less people
Anything else?
Dudes, if you liked tf2 you will really enjoy Overwatch, you can trade in those lame hats that are losing value due to waining interest in TF2 and use that money towards Overwatch.
I'm sure you've noticed all your friends moved on to Overwatch so why lose your friends when you can pick up Overwatch now?
>buy Overwatch for my wife's son
>he's still playing TF2
>>343281494
Sounds great cant wait.
>>343281687
>he prefers autism hats over actually fitting hats
>>343281795
This was meant for this >>343281760
Sorry for the confusion. Overwatch sounds great indeed.
>>343281848
Be honest with yourself, does that hat actually look good on anyone?
>>343281770
>getting cucked by your wife AND son
Just end yourself man
>>343281017
Gun Mettle was reasonably large. Lots of bugfixes, a host of balance changes, four new maps, new taunts, weapon skins, weapon pickups, basically everything but new weapons themselves (and the rebalances on stuff like Cloak and Dagger was roughly equivalent to new weapons since they actually became useful).
Matchmmaking itself as an addition would be bigger than Gun Mettle put together, so anything on top of that is just a bonus.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHy7G7ndrUmq933tLi_nTlFlvmJKZpmAi
As you can see, there's 4 private videos on Valve's "taunts" youtube channel, which is what happened the last time they brought out a bunch of taunts.
>>343282018
When you own tf2 you're cucked all the time by the dwindling player base. Why limit yourself when you can get a game that's alive like Overwatch and World of Warcraft?
>>343282095
>Dwindling playerbase
>2 million players and rising
>>343281919
T b h
I forgot it was multiclass and only good on sollyI regret crafting mine with the spiral knights hat
>>343282127
>Your face when TF2
>>343277616
>Should i get in to it again?
Do you have access to a time machine and/or are able to travel back to 2008?
If the answer is yes: definitively.
>TFW tf2's limit of 9 classes
>>343282095
WoW is an bad example, because they don't care about the dropping playerbase, since they still make the same profit with less people through the pay2win cash shop and game time for gold
>>343282034
Competitive play isn't going to do nothing but keep the comp tryhards happy to be not playing in pubs and the pub shitters salty they're bad.
>>343282130
>tfw always wanted the triclops but didn't want to play SMNC
>>343282282
9 basic classes that have several houndred different weapon loadouts that change the playstyle :^)
>>343277616
Wait until the next update (coming really soon apparently)
It'll add competitive matchmaking to the game finally, but if you don't give a flying fucking shit about that then you should also know that their goal is to make every weapon "viable for comp", so the massive balance changes that'll happen will affect everyone.
>>343278741
>Widowmaker
This is a TF2 thread you fag.
>>343281758
Well yes, that is the whole point of ranked. You get matched with people that have a similiar skill level and want to play the objective.
Because it has 12 players less the games are much more objective based.
Saying that "it's the same old shit except ranked with less people" is simply wrong. Because of the player limit the whole game plays differently, not dying is much more important and the game isn't as chaotic as a pub.
>>343281758
15v15 insta respawn dustbowl has not much to do with competitive bra. It's fun in its own way, but still different.
>>343281413
>>343281413
Overwatch has skins now
>TFW tf2 will never be as good as Overwatch
>>343282302
>Competitive play isn't going to do nothing but keep the comp tryhards happy to be not playing in pubs
It'll give people a reason to keep getting better at TF2, potential monetary reward and recognition. The existing TF2 competitive leagues, UGC, ETF2L, Ozfortress, Asiafort and ESEA, can barely muster up a $1000 prize pool between themselves for the winners, and so a lot of people who would otherwise play competitive in hopes of a reward don't do so.
With Valve supplying the same sort of prize pool as they do for the Dota internationals, people will be excited to play TF2 more seriously in the hopes of gitting gud and gitting emone, so they'll spend more time in the game.
With people coming back to TF2 to play competitive or spending more time in the game, that'll mean more people in the market for items, and more people making content like maps and hats, etc.
>>343281348
Well, it is a free game.
>>343282382
Baited
>>343282370
So are there any new weapons coming out with it?
I'm really curious how they're going to balance pyro. Maybe he'll actually the close range powerhouse he's actually supposed be.
>>343282538
But they're FREE you idiot.
They don't change silhouette significantly and the look GOOD!
Try harder next time Valve SHILL
>>343282393
>Well yes
Thank you for agreeing with me that it's just the same old shit.
>You get matched with people that have a similiar skill level and want to play the objective
Which other games like Overwatch or hell, even CS:GO have already implemented. Glad it took TF2's dev team this many years to get on the bandwagon.
>Because it has 12 players less the games are much more objective based.
Objectively wrong. Watch any "competitive" TF2 player to see they're just doing the exact same shit they do in pubs of the same objective type.
>Saying that "it's the same old shit except ranked with less people" is simply wrong.
>>Well yes,
You agree with me and then contradict yourself by taking it back in the same post? Wow.
>Because of the player limit the whole game plays differently, not dying is much more important and the game isn't as chaotic as a pub.
This is an opinion, not a fact.
>>343282508
>>it's the same old shit except ranked with less people
>>>less people
Read the post before replying, retard.
>>343282590
And what does that have to do with anything? The point that I was trying to make was that the TF2 playerbase is large and still increasing.
Despite all the frogposting, this is still a better TF2 thread than what you'd find on /vg/.
Hopefully the update is tonight. I know they like to update shit on Thursdays. I wonder what else is in store.
>>343282393
Don't reply to him, it's very obvious what he's doing. Nobody worth convincing is going to be fooled by his bullshit.
I don't know if these are turbo blizzdrones or next level ironic shitposts
>tfw loved TF2
>then the F2P-update happened
>the main server I used to play crumbled to pieces with all the newfags and russians
that being said it gave me a good couple of years, god bless that server
>>343282361
>Tfw all those weapons and play styles are banned from competitive.
It's time we tf2 players kill ourselves.
>>343282582
>It'll give people a reason to keep getting better at TF2, potential monetary reward and recognition.
>The existing TF2 competitive leagues, UGC, ETF2L, Ozfortress, Asiafort and ESEA, can barely muster up a $1000 prize pool between themselves for the winners
Way to contradict yourself in the first two lines of your response.
Also, to compare TF2 to DOTA 2 is not fair in the slightest, considering DOTA 2 is hyper-successful and TF2 barely gets by despite being free.
>>343282770
It's prime time shitposting hour in Australia.
>>343282648
Naw man, phlog got nerfed for good reason. It was not fun at all to play against. It also empowers the w+m1 meme this class suffers from, even though there are cool things he can do, like deflecting rockets and stop burn on team mates actually gives health back, so people do it now
>Tfw playing the next big competitive game, Overwatch, as I watch the TF2 community burn to the ground.
>>343281348
not taking sides but the player count is actually going down for tf 2.
All time peak was 117k people and now its usually at 65k
>>343282754
>I wonder what else is in store.
We know for sure matchmaking, taunts, "something both for serious and casual players" according to b4nny, and slin says Valve said they "want to make people able to play the classes they enjoy".
Also, recently a couple seconds of an SFM model of Saxton Hale's face was cut out of the video of a tour of Valve's headquarters, so some are speculating about that.
>>343282770
>t. turbo valvedrone
>>343278741
>Medick
>Vaccinator
>5gorge
>>343281348
>And that number is going up, not down.
This is so false I cant even stand
>>343282985
Yes my friend. We should all jump ship and move to better pasture with Overwatch. It's only 39.99 right now and with the up coming sale the price will be an enticing 19.99 USD. I hope to see you guys soon at Overwatch.
>>343283041
Yes, this is a tf2 thread. There are enough overshit threads to shitpost in
Are you guys hyped for the Disgaea hats/cosmetics?
>>343283183
>Disgaea hats/cosmetics
what
>>343282689
This is a little known fact, but the reason that it took Valve so long to implement mm into TF2 was the competetive community itself. In 2013 Valve invited Sal and cbear to discuss competetive matchmaking. After sharing the results of the discussion with the rest of the comp community responded with huge negativity to the proposed mode. After that Valve postponed the update for the next year or so.
>>343282985
http://steamspy.com/app/440
Look at the "Audience (2 weeks)" and "CCU (Daily)" tabs. You can see that the general number of active TF2 players is rising, and the CCU is much more leveled out. Right now TF2 fluctuates between 70-60k players, while a month ago it was 80-40k players.
>ITT: Competitive Overwatch hit people like a brick wall so they have to shitpost after getting a horrible qualifier rank
>>343278741
>scoot
>FaN
>koth_sawmill
>>343278741
>soldier
>stock rocket lawn chair
>double cross
>>343283183
I'm really hyped for the three new heroes Overwatch is adding in the next two weeks and the subsequent loot box sale extravaganza. They will be 75 cents!!!!
>>343283183
That would be the day.
>>343283145
Everyone expected it to be free2play and that little amount of content is not worth paying for in addition to the ingame shop. The greed of activision makes me sick
Your face A.V.A is region blocked in your region. Tfw have to hack to get my promotion items.
>>343283235
>This is a little known fact, but the reason that it took Valve so long to implement mm into TF2 was the competetive community itself
No it's because Valve are lazy bastards and don't give a shit about Tf2.
>>343282868
>Way to contradict yourself in the first two lines of your response
Not sure if I'm being baited here, I am saying that there is no money or recognition in current TF2 competitive.
1000 dollars divided between five leagues is 200 dollars. 200 dollars divided by a 6-man team is 33 bucks a player. That's actually less than your expenses for going to a LAN.
Replace that $1000 with a $1,000,000 prize pool, and people would be a lot more enthusiastic about competitive TF2.
>Also, to compare TF2 to DOTA 2 is not fair in the slightest, considering DOTA 2 is hyper-successful and TF2 barely gets by despite being free
Okay, this is definitely bait.
Dota 2 is also free, and TF2 is the third most played game on Steam, that's not "barely gets by".
I'm not being baited, I'm only responding so people won't think the wrong thing based on your post.
>>343283183
>>343283228
>just googled it
>it's just a bunch of shitty prinny themed items
>they don't even look that good
welp there goes my hype.
>>343283235
I see a whole lot of heresy and not enough proof to back up your claim.
>>343283228
http://steamcommunity.com/games/405900/announcements/detail/877455595174544843
>>343283305
>>343283228
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=22641
Reminder that ironic shitposting is still shitposting, no matter what.
>>343283307
I wasn't about to play another shitty F2P just to get a promo item I wouldn't even use. I just used SAM.
Getting to level 15 or whatever in Super Monday Night Combat was bad enough.
>>343282034
>Lots of bugfixes, a host of balance changes, four new maps, new taunts, weapon skins, weapon pickups,
Lots of new bugs introduced, balance changes were garbage and barely changed a thing, the new maps were all garbage, taunts are meaningless, skins are garbage, weapon pickups are dumb shit imported from CSGO.
Tf2 players are so dense. I just wish I could blow them up with my D.VA ULT or Junkrat ULT.
comic when?
>>343283450
/thread
Do the world a favor and kill yourself, frogfag
>>343283283
>50 dollars for a beta, since you have to wait a month for new content
>also, 75 cent microtransictions on a 50 dollar game
>>343283362
>I am saying that there is no money or recognition
>>potential monetary reward
You're an idiot.
> $1,000,000 prize pool
Speculation. TF2's current userbase is not worth that much going into the game, especially how Jew-grubbing the dev team has become.
>Dota 2 is also free
That's my point, idiot. Notice how many more people are playing that than TF2, despite TF2 being out for longer? Way to fall into my trap card.
>I'm not being baited, I'm only responding so people won't think the wrong thing based on your post.
You are literally retarded and have done nothing to back up anything you say; everything you spout is from your ass because you know TF2 is dead and shit. The only person wrong here, is you.
>>343278741
Soldier
Kritzkrieg
powerhouse
I stopped playing it when I realized there were no women of power and color in it. It's a too misogynistic game for me.
>>343282937
>phlog got nerfed for good reason. It was not fun at all to play against.
My ass. Pyros are fragile as fuck.
>but they're going call me w+m1!
Who cares? The pyro isn't shit because he takes little skill to play, he's shit because he's too outclassed(especially CQC) and his only true standout role is shitting on spies, the other weakling class of the game.
>>343283636
>>50 dollars for a beta
>>50 dollar game
>>343277616
FORGET ALL THESE NORMIES
listen here bud, get Overwatch and be happy to be apart of a game that isn't a loss leader for valve and features constant updates.
>>343283419
>>343283395
Well shit.
Look kinda bad, to be perfectly honest.
>>343278741
>pyro
>scatter/shotgun
>any payload map
>>343283681
>everyone is a sheep like me, that only jumps on the most popular game, because I have no personal prefference of genres and can't have fun with something else
>>343283681
>>potential monetary reward
Yes, I know what I said. Getting 33 bucks from winning a LAN doesn't even cover the cost of going to a LAN. And that's just in a hypothetical world where all five major TF2 organizations band together to raise a 1000 dollar prize pool, they don't actually have that kind of money.
>Speculation
Yes, of course.
> Notice how many more people are playing that than TF2, despite TF2 being out for longer?
That's my point. TF2 and Dota 2 are both free games. TF2 doesn't have a supported competitive scene, Dota does.
Again, posting this so nobody gets confused by your incorrectness, not because I'm actually being baited.
>>343277616
no it's been shit since they added different weapons
they should have just kept it at a few really good hats for each class
everything else is stupid and dumb
>>343278741
>Sniper
>Darwin's Danger Shield
>Trade Plaza
>>343278741
Medic
Crusader's Crossbow (seriously holy shit this thing is so OP nerfs when?)
Process
>>343283776
I agree with you that pyro is very situational and by far not as an allrounder as the other classes. He's in an awkward spot, but on some maps he can shine, when there is a way to ambush people instead a big open place
>>343278741
>Scout
>Scattergun
>Black Mesa
>>343284043
>>Trade Plaza
I thought all the maps running that one were dead
Does tf2 even have golden weapons that DONT cost 5,000 dollars?
Why not play a real game that rewards you for being good and not because you stole daddy's credit card?
>>343278138
>in the past decade.
>>343283852
When has anything they've put out in recent years been good?
>>343283913
If anything you've said was true, why haven't I jumped on TF2 yet?
>>343283989
>TF2 doesn't have a supported competitive scene, Dota does.
CS:GO does too, and it just kinda sits there minding its own business, you know?
>continuing to go on about correctness while being wrong continuously and not fixing your mistakes
>actually agreeing with me that you're wrong but still not admitting it
>>Yes, I know what I said.
>>Yes, of course.
>I'M the one who's wrong still.
Now I'm being baited.
>>343283989
>>343283362
Be advised new readers, everything stated by this user is false. Please do not confuse anything they say for fact.
>>343284269
thanks for the heads up
>>343278741
>Medic
>Dead Ringer
>Mario Kart
>>343284217
>If anything you've said was true, why haven't I jumped on TF2 yet?
OW is new and if you haven't played tf2, a decade old game, you missed out and I feel sorry for you. Do whatever you want, but the game still popular and getting updates to this day speaks for itself
>>343284094
>I agree with you that pyro is very situational and by far not as an allrounder
Don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying he need's to be able to do everything. He just needs to be really strong at very close ranges to make himself a strong asset in most scenarios except for the most open of maps(And at that point, this would be just fine..
>He's in an awkward spot
He is, but I think the biggest culprit is just that the playerbase just doesn't like getting killed by the flamer.
People can't be this retarded right?
Why chose TF2 over Overwatch? I can't think of one logical reason.
Tf just doesn't offer anything but a fun evening right now. Before it at least felt like you're getting better at it, now it feels like time stopped for this game. I haven't played for a year and when I came back there was nothing new but few hats I don't give a shit about in the first place.
>get in the server
>only couple good players
>basically destroy everyone without even trying
>switch teams when bored
I used to play on server with tons of amazing players, but it died out. Game is not as popular anymore, everyone even left or moved to cs:go or overwatch.
>playing tf2 since it went f2p
>shitty hats and poorly balanced guns everywhere
Valve ruined TF2
>"but muh playerbase"
Fuck off with this shitty excuse, CS:S costs €20 and still has loads of great community servers
>>343284490
>but the game still popular
>>If anything you've said was true, why haven't I jumped on TF2 yet?
>>>everyone is a sheep like me, that only jumps on the most popular game
Can you not even remember what you said less than 5 minutes ago?
Are you actually retarded? Do you just reply without thinking of all the shit you're going to spew?
>>343284604
This is why I moved to Overwatch. So much fun !
>>343284094
Pyro needs something to make it a good class offensively. Right now it gets used on last point defenses sometimes (to repel Ubers) but nobody in their right mind would run one to mid because it's so damn statistically average with shit range.
>this thread
>>343284652
You implied that everyone thinks like you, which is not the case, or we would only have one game being played online. If you want to be a mad shitter nobody likes, just go on. I'm sure you convinced a lot of people in a tf2 thread to buy a game that has people like you in it
Like, I wasn't even trying to argue into getting people to play Overwatch, I just think TF2 is dead, and comp is only going to beat a dead horse.
But seeing how the TFags fail so badly at trying to make a single point defending the game, I'd side with Overwatch for that alone.
>>343284217
>CS:GO does too, and it just kinda sits there minding its own business, you know
No?
>actually agreeing with me that you're wrong but still not admitting it
Except you literally just did that.
>Now I'm being baited
No, I'm still the one being baited.
>>343284816
I don't think a pyro really needs to be so complicated. Just ramp up the damage big time and cut the ammo a bit if anyone's really that worried about spam.
>>343284816
I have a great idea anon! Why not try overwatch?
Its a game that lets you play how you want and caters to all playstyles.
INB4 VALVE DRONE TRIES AND FAILS TO REFUTE THIS.
desu you're better off moving to overwatch.
overwatch is casual and easy to play so you'll have a good time pretty often
also: hot female characters
>>343284269
you are legitimately as autistic as the frogposter
never mind, you're more autistic. at least he kinda reminds me of toddposting
>>343281760
The matches are too short to allow for any strategy besides "having a good team". There is no place for suspense in OW. And probably never will be. The game design screams that. OW caters to people with handheld console-tier attention spans.
Skill ceiling in Overwatch is incredibly low
>>343284919
Like, I wasn't even trying to argue into getting people to play tf2, I just think Overwatch is casual shit, and comp is only fun for a minority of the playerbase.
But seeing how the Overfags fail so badly at trying to make a single point for the game, I'd side with TF2 for that alone.
>>343285049
So you want every weapon to be the backburner, just from all sides
>>343285213
≥OVERWATCH
≥LOW SKILL CEILING
TF2'S DEATH IMPLIES IT'S SKILL CEILING ISN'T AS HIGH AS PEOPLE CLAIM.
I have you even played Overwatch ?
>>343284902
If that's what I was implying, I wouldn't have bothered to argue in the first place because you would be thinking like me, so why would I need to argue in the first place?
I think you have me confused with the frogposter. Because you clearly have me confused with someone else, or you are legitimately retarded to believe any of the shit that comes out your mouth.
>>343284974
>"Maybe if I pretend to be trolling they won't think I'm retarded!"
I'm sure your ego must be very hurt, but don't reply to me anymore since you've lost.
>inb4 they reply again saying i'm wrong or that they've been baited or they aren't trolling/retarded/continue to spout the same shit he believes as fact
>>343285132
Someone's upset they lost the argument. Too bad yet again you're wrong.
>>343285232
Thanks for proving my point, they're literally interchangeable pieces of garbage.
>>343285232
>>343285389
BUT Overwatch is a newer experience so it garners more attention.
>>343285389
jesus christ, seek help
>>343285464
>filename
>>343285363
>exaggerating
Christ. Just up it about +20-50% or something.
>>343285389
Will TF2 ever have waifus as hot as this?
I'm losing my patience with tf2, if we don't get some females in the next update I'm moving to Overwatch after I sell all my hats and load outs.
>>343285597
I'd rather have a sperg like you on my side than retards like them, brother.
>overwatch fanboys actually think overwatch requires skill
you do realize that overwatch is a casual game, right? it's call of duty-tier when it comes to skill. just look at literally any gameplay of overwatch on youtube. you can get kills left and right. seriously you'll have a harder time playing as fucking pyro in tf2.
>>343285049
I wouldn't mind seeing damage upped, but damage isn't the problem, it's getting Pyro in range to do that damage without getting shot on the way there.
Sure, people say "Pyro is an ambush class", but unlike Spy or Scout or even Soldier he doesn't really have the tools to ambush people.
>>343285389
I was not baited, and I am happy with myself for that success.
>>343286073
>mfw I fucking called it
This thread is an autistic spergy climax of retardation and sfadnnbljkbd
>>343285896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qytdp4obq9g
>>343286021
Backburner is killing everything with less than 200hp in under 2 seconds. If he gets there, he can do a ton of damage. A combo that requires more skill with critting a burning player with your axe is also oneshotting soldiers.
>>343286161
>>343286172
Feels bad man. All these TF2 fags ruin everything
>>343286219
>implying it's hard to play fps games on pc
lmao
>>343278741
Spy
Back-Scatter
Pl_upward
>>343286219
Come back when your game doesn't have retarded hit boxes and tick rates or at least normal rocket jumping
>>343278741
>engi
>piss jar/sandvich
>landfall
>>343286294
Then TF2 must be a fucking breeze.
>>343286294
It totally is, except when you play TF2. That shit is weak compared to Overwatch.
>>343286370
>pointing your weapon at your feet and firing is the epitome of skill
>>343284438
>dead ringer
>>343286390
>>343286434
>literally the same overwatch sperg posting two times
the only problem I have with this game is that all the good servers with people playing, communicating, being average-to good has disappeared, like, vanished from the fucking earth
right now there's only valve servers, full of scrubs, or skial shit, full of memefags
>>343286219
HE TOUCHED A WALL
WOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzmHLakUx0g
>>343286501
Here's your (You)
>>343286501
Tf2 drones c-c-cant be t-this stupid...
*Hugs Lucio plush tight*
>>343286021
>damage isn't the problem
One of the biggest reasons the pyro is outclassed is because other classes with more mobility still outdamages him. Damage is a huge problem.
>it's getting Pyro in range to do that damage without getting shot on the way there.
You're right, it's still absolutely true. And I don't really have an answer to this other than a slight boost to speed or less self damage and/or bigger jumps with the detonator.
>>343286225
>critting a burning player with your axe
>he doesn't know
>>343286219
Jesus christ overwatch is an eyesore.
>>343286568
>gets no kill assists
>pockets b4nny
>using beta footage
Wow man, impressive. I like the way you cherry pick.
>>343286476
For a game made for consoles, that movement is too hard, that's why they removed it
>>343286597
>>343286639
well then, overwatch fanboys are all equally autistic. that proves another point of mine,
>>343286487
>Mfw can only ever use the DR while playing spy
I don't want to use this shit but spy gameplay is way too punishing for me to play without the DR. What does it matter how good you are at acting like an ally and staying cloaked, if any retard can just shoot around or spycheck anyone and you just die in a few hits? Fuck that.
>tfw tf2 players don't see the shinning beacon that is Overwatch.
We can only hope that they will catch on soon.
>>343286803
The only point you had was that you thought we were the same person, you had no other points. Stop trying to damage control.
>>343286793
>game made for consoles
>forgets TF2 started with the Orange Box
Oh how naive you children are.
![4E0421F51BAAF2F2167A7F99EA209ED82E8E715C[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dvjKCOO.jpg "4E0421F51BAAF2F2167A7F99EA209ED82E8E715C[1].jpg")
rate don't h8
>>343286568
HE HEALED A GUY
WOW
>>343286871
no, i usually say that overwatch fanboys are pretty damn autistic. and my point is being proven in this thread alone, just look at the frogposter. btw i'm not a tf2 fanboy, i stopped playing a couple years ago.
>>343286862
>shining beacon
>widowmaker
>widowmaker's shiny ass
do you want me to fap you fucking nigger
>>343286225
>Backburner is killing everything with less than 200hp in under 2 seconds. If he gets there, he can do a ton of damage
Nah, again Backburner doesn't work because good players have higher mouse sens and will turn as soon as they hear a thing. Even turning slightly will make the flamethrower stop critting, because Backburner only crits 90 degrees of the target's back, so directly behind them (as opposed to the 180 degrees in which the Knife will backstab).
On top of that, in game modes like competitive matchmaking where both teams have a small count of players, it's really hard to ambush the enemy team like that. They try and keep one player on each flank, so it's rare that a Pyro would ever be able to get behind an enemy team unnoticed.
>A combo that requires more skill with critting a burning player with your axe is also oneshotting soldiers
No, they nerfed Axtinguisher in Tough Break and it doesn't do that anymore. It used to do 195 damage on crit, which combined with the puff of fire would kill a Soldier basically in one hit, but now it only does 131 damage on crit and takes an entire second to equip, so using the Flamethrower to W+M1 is actually faster.
>>343286989
Cool but what's up with the alien head?
Serious inquiry
Do people still play Team Fortress Two?
Serious replies only from serious Team Fortress Two players only.
>>343286989
no fez
>>343286487
Dead Ringer got nerfed, it's no longer what people used to complain about. In fact I'm reasonably sure it won't even let you survive a half charged headshot any more (though my maths might be wrong).
What is up with the assblasted Overweight players ITT, christ
>>343287170
>i usually say
Funny how you neglected to say anything before your previous statement and instead are using it to damage control, or that you expect people to remember what you say on an anonymous image board with no recognition who you are whatsoever.
That aside, glad you're not a TFag. You see them trying to argue? It's just shit on both sides to be honest.
>>343287234
If you talk about competitive, yeah he is bad there just like spy. And these two classes benefit much more from the overall chaos on pubs with more players. Considering the game was created with that in mind instead smaller organized teams, every class has their place
>>343287289
There was an alien invasion update and this was a drop I got. It's strange and I have lots of kills on it.
>>343286989
Looks fine, the only thing I would change is painting the tie black.
So is there one aspect of Overwatch that's not in some way directly derivative of TF2?
>>343287408
>damage control
no, not really. i'm just glad that i know i'm right
as for the tfags and overshills fighting, i don't care. i mainly play battlefield anyway. i played overwatch a few times thanks to a friend letting me try it out, and it was easy to play. only character that required a bit of thinking was zarya, and maybe reaper with his shotguns that have a range of twelve inches.
>>343287170
stop replying to frogposter bait
>>343286829
>acting
Don't bother. Just use disguises to avoid the enemy team seeing your colors so they don't shoot on reaction. I find that spy works best on payload pubs.
>>343287626
muh waifus
Any tf2 bros out there? I feel like I'm the only one that plays this game.
Maybe I should get Overwatch.
>>343278741
>Sniper
>Bushwacka
>Badwater
>>343287626
Cast of characters and abilities.
>>343278741
Scout
Flare Gun
Gullywash
>>343287929
I wish TF2 had ULTs, maybe then we could have enough players for a few matches.
>>343278741
>Sniper
>Huntsman
>Dustbowl
>>343286709
>One of the biggest reasons the pyro is outclassed is because other classes with more mobility still outdamages him. Damage is a huge problem
I wouldn't say it's that huge of a problem. Pyro only has 10-11 less DPS than Scout (Scattergun is 168 and has reloads, Flamethrower is 157 with no reload time). And it actually has better DPS than Soldier (RL has 140 DPS, with reloads). Pyro's damage isn't that bad. But it could do with minor improvements.
Considering Pyro's entire gimmick since the beginning of the game is DoT, yet fire does shit damage and takes ages to do anything and is easily put out, I'd like to see afterburn damage buffed from 6/second to 8/second (same damage as bleeding), but only on the stock Flamethrower.
>And I don't really have an answer to this other than a slight boost to speed or less self damage and/or bigger jumps with the detonator
Yeah, I was thinking buff Backburner so it acts kind of like a Gunboats for Pyro- reducing self-damage from explosions by 60%. That would kill multiple birds with one stone: it would make Backburner actually useful in comp, give Pyro some skilled movement, and provide a competitor to Degreaser.
I never played TF2, even though I actually played TFC back in the day. I was always turned off by the cartoonish looks and f2p later on. Is there a point of getting into it until the new Quake comes out? How high is the overall level of the players and how much effort do you have to put in, if you're otherwise fairly proficient at fps? It seems class/hero based is here to stay.
>>343278741
>Demoman
>Stock weapons
>2009 version of mario_kart
>>343277616
more new hats
>>343288267
it's abysmal in pubs except for the occasional 2 or 3 friends pub stomping
competitive users are usually good but it's srs business
>>343284141
Sadly they are. Reason I stopped playing :(
>>343288418
So it's basically CS?
>>343288267
Some classes are harder than others. If you like quake, you will enjoy scout or soldier. Even the medic crossbow is fun, that acts like a rail gun.
It's free , you have nothing to lose
>>343288621
sort of except pubs are filled with third worlders playing a computer game for the first time in some internet cafe
>>343288621
I exeperienced the same on BF4. There is always a team that go 40:2 each destroying everyone
>>343288703
>>343288739
Alright, thanks for the serious answers, sounds like it's at least worth trying out.
>>343278741
>medic
>blutslauger
>Dustbowl
>>343288267
>Is there a point of getting into it until the new Quake comes out?
I'd say it's worth giving it a try, it's free after all, the download size is like 6 GBs, and it's still a populated game which has a big update coming out very soon.
What may put you off as a TFC player is that grenade jumping was removed, but plenty of other mechanics have been added to replace that.
>how much effort do you have to put in, if you're otherwise fairly proficient at fps?
Well, depends on whether you want to play competitively or whether you want to play casually. Casually, you won't need to learn much, especially if you play as a class like Sniper (all you need is good head-clicking aim) or Heavy (some good positioning is required, but otherwise it's just tracking).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7jelqvvzxE
Here's a video of Kaidus stomping people in competitive as Demo. TF2's also highly customizable, so if anything annoys you in that video, such as the hitsounds, you can easily change them if you want or turn them off (my hitsound is the Quake noise).
Are there any mario_kart servers still up?
i can understand why OW players are scared but why aren't they playing their game
>>343289039
Totally, but most of the ones I know are dead or dying orpopulated by furries, a fate worse than death (though if you have spraydisable and mute everyone it's not too bad)
>>343288267
Depends on what servers do you play and what classes do you use.
Pubs are a chaotic shitshow full of casual players that don't know how to play the game. The only exception are 5CP pubs in Europe, which get a fair amount of good players.
There are very few community servers, but the skill level is higher than on pubs.
Then you have 6s lobbies. People know how to play the game and you won't run into any noobs there.
As for the classes:
-Scout is very fast and heavily relies on twitch and strafe aim. You also need to learn airstrafing to play him properly
-Soldier is probably the class that's closest to Quake. He has crazy mobility with his rocket launcher and requires a ton of learning to be good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT-AmQUhRpw
-Pyro is really easy to learn, but also very easy to master. His main role in comp is to push back people.
-Demoman has arguably a higher skill ceiling than Soldier, due to his sticky jumps requiring precise timing. Used for area denial.
-Heavy is a pretty easy class too. To be a good heavy you need to have good positioning and strafe aim. Used to slow down teams.
-Engineer... well there's not much to this class. After 10-20 hours you probably know everything on how to play him
-Medic is the most important support class in TF2. He can heal the rest of his teammates and after charging his ubercharge meter, he can activate a special effect on whoever he's healing, depending on the weapon he's using (invulnerability, triple damage, increased healing). Surfing and positioning are the most important aspects of this class.
-Sniper. You point at heads, and click on them.
-Spy is used mainly to pick important classes from the enemy team (medic, demoman, sniper). Although he's good only in certain situatuons, a good spy play can turn the game around.
>>343288992
Playing demo efficiently like that is really hard and takes a lof of prediction. I wish I could be good with that class
>>343288097
Remember that both Scout and Soldier considerably outrange and are more mobile than the pyro(Hell, the latter, you pointed out too). A considerable damage advantage either through flames or afterburn won't make him the strongest class, but it at least gives a bit more of a selling point if a strong mobility buff isn't on the table.
But yeah, I don't think we're on too different pages here. I like the detonator idea. He really does need some mobility tools to really define his role the team's go-to ambusher/close quarters specialist instead of Engineer's best friend.
>>343278741
Medic
Scattergun
Turbine
TF2 was the shit, i had almost 1000 hours on it and made a load of money out of it. Surely one of the best games i ever played, maybe the best.
>>343288992
>>343289230
Thanks lads, that's already way better info than what I got out of the tf2g OP.
>>343289230
>Although he's good only in certain situatuons, a good spy play can turn the game around.
I'll say. Did you catch corsa's play? Shit was fucking insane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JADbX2ydDGM
Just a breakdown for anyone who doesn't realize the significance of that video: He takes down the Engineer and Sentry, surfs off an explosion that should have killed him, and lands right into the 100% charged enemy Medic for the med drop.
In one quick play, he destroyed a cornerstone of the enemy team's defense and their main way of fighting back, and his team pushed off that to win the game.
>>343289440
I would like to see Pyro get something like the GRU and Gunslinger (except not as OP as GRU or annoying as Gunslinger) that allows it to be more useful. Hell, maybe some kind of longer-ranged lightning gun that requires tighter aiming, but does higher damage at longer ranges.
>>343289697
Yeah nah, stay far away from tf2g, that place is nothing but a soulless circlejerk husk/personal diary of mentally ill transitioning transsexuals now. Hope you enjoy your time in TF2.
>>343290083
This is legit the best spy play I've ever seen. Was mainly thinking about it when I was writing my response.
>when you give your community tools to make stuff and they make stuff with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQfQLBtdnyc
Shame Blizz didn't decide to give OW a map editor, like they did for WC3 and Brood War. Their stock maps are terrible.
>>343290083
I appreciate good spies, but the whole stab mechanic should be reworked from scratch. He hit him infront of his shoulder.
>>343290501
Lag compensation and the backstab hitbox is 180 degrees. Spy is a weak class already so I don't think changing anything would be a good idea.
>>343278741
ScoutOldBFBRIP
Upward
