>yfw when Itagaki nuked his entire career with Devil's Third and said players are too shit to understand his masterpiece
>>343219928
Source?
NG1 was a fluke.
>>343219928
>mfw /v/ started trusting reviewers to not be shit
>>343220509
This. Devil's Third is perfectly fine. I'd put it in the Star Fox Zero camp of critics trying their hardest to downplay Nintendo games.
I love how none of the critics for the game seem to know anything about it. For example, the PC version is still getting updated with new content, which is probably the real reason the online play for the console version is being discontinued.
I kinda feel for him
>Get money to make a gamechanger action game
>THQ moneyhat it
>Lease engine for it
>2 years of work
>THQ goes out of business
>They liquidize all the assets
>Scrape away with enough funds to buy the IP
>No developer for a year
>Pitch game to Nintendo, who buy it and moneyhat it
>Nintendo were under the impression the game was further along than it was
>Have to rebuild game in different engine, with different assets, for a different console than you originally wanted
>2 years of development and have to let go some of your team because of money concerns
>Finally get to show off your game at E3
>It looks shit, and you probably know it looks shit, but you're here to show off gameplay and that's all anyone cares about
>Nope
>Game gets trashed as looking shit and mistakingly referred to as been in development for 5 years even though you had to restart
>Hire new employees, double down to get game finished
>Game's online mode isn't ready to be shown at E3 2015, so skip it
>Missed 3 deadlines at this point
>Nintendo says enough is enough
>Scramble to finish game for publishing in August
>Release game
>It's a bit shit
>Gets torn apart in reviews even though it's no worse than other disappointing games released that year
>Get depressed
>Shitpost on Facebook with your fans
>Nintendo closes your online component (the only fun part of your game) in 2016
>PC version on hold
>>343220265
NG1 was a fluke, NG2 was a fluke, DOA3.1 was a fluke
That's a lot of fluke desu senpaitachi
It's okay, Hayashi will save us
>>343220889
>This. Devil's Third is perfectly fine.
No it isn't, reviewers really ripped on it but the gunplay and the little close combat it has is just bare bones; you can tell Itagaki tried to make a game with mechanics he is not familiar with it, and the thing he was familiar with (close combat) was half-assed.
>>343221505
This man literally killed Ninja Gaiden and then allowed another company to make a mediocre spin-offs.
If he hadn't made DOA5 to be decent and profitable, his career at KT / Team Ninja would have been terminated.
>>343221343
NG2 is mediocre. DOA was and always has been shit.
>>343221505
Hopefully they locked him in the broom closet so he can't hurt anything else
>>343221865
>NG2 is mediocre.
Kek
years have passed and I still can't take cookie seriously he always came as a goofy fuck instead of the badass he pretends to be
>>343221919
It is mediocre, the only thing improved was the shouted if combat. Compared to Ninja Gaiden Black its trash.
>>343223131
>Speed of combat*
>>343223131
It has better combat than NGB and it's also the best battle system of all time. Keep those shit tastes to yourself.
>>343221865
Your taste was and always has been shit. NG2 was god-tier and DOA is the second best 3D fighting series behind VF.
>>343223732
not him but I think the extreme flaws of ninja gaiden are stronger with NG2, just like its strengths (atleast some of them)
I liked the exploration elements of the first one, areas and the world in general, both story and visuals wise seemed more realized, atmospheric and interesting, the enemies were pretty varied, has some pretty memorable bosses (doku, alma): pretty much none of these carry over to NG2
I actually hate NG2 because everything else about it is atrocious apart from the core combat mechanics- I think I would genuinely like the game if it had no graphics or music but it was just like a fucking VR mission made out of white blocks, enemies and the player character included
>>343224401
>DOA worse than a dead game
kek
>>343225579
Yes. VF 4 and 5 are the best playing fighters ever made, community be damned. FGC has shit taste in fighters and only cares about Capcom shit.
>>343224941
>I like NGB because it's a LoZ clone
Ok
>>343226124
Nice shitpost. NGB had much better pacing than 2 as well as more variety. It also had better level design and bosses, and definitely better balancing. This is coming from someone who loves NG2.
>>343224941
The best thing about NG2 is how it removed the exploration.
I have a battle system to learn and have fun with, don't make me do boring shit I do in every single other games.
>>343226880
They made it more casual. That's not better.
can't spook the cook.
>>343227246
Casual? No. But they did make it more repetitive and one-note. I love the game but the pacing was far worse than the original's. Same reason DMC1 is the best in the series. Sequels just turned into endless streams of empty combat rooms, which is the same mistake NG2 made. Even with a combat system as great as NG's that shit gets old fast if there's nothing else to the game.
>>343227608
>Same reason DMC1 is the best in the series
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>>343219928
Holy shit is that oatmeal cookie holding a sword?
>>343228638
Fuck off CUHRAYZEE faggot. DMC3 is a mediocre game propped up by retards who were desperate for anything halfway decent after the trainwreck that was 2. 4 was half of a good game copy-pasted over itself and released at full price. DMC1 is the only legitimately great game in the series. Your taste is godawful and your opinion was never relevant.
>>343221643
Gunplay is fine, swordplay lacks the combos and special moves NG has, but being able to throw weapons is a pretty nice touch
>>343227608
>Even with a combat system as great as NG's that shit gets old fast
I have to disagree. All these years later I still love the fuck out of it, at this point I'm certain I'll NEVER EVER get bored from NG2's combat. It's still my to go game if I want to rip and tear shit up.
That said you're right for everything else.
This is why NG4 should have the big open and detailed hub-based world of NG + NG2's gameplaywith Razor Edge's cancels and meter management
>>343228957
>>343229987
SOBs were passable, Tests of Valor were good, the rest of RE was shit. Kunai Climbs and Falcon Dives every now and then to give you your dose of QTE, more linear than ever, shitty bosses, one of which you'll fight at least four times (that shitty robot), and that you have to use karma to upgrade weapons so you're punished for experimenting
>>343229987
>3RE's cancels
mind being a bit more specific?
>>343229987
>Open world
you're part of the problem, anon
>>343230891
Well that's what happens when you try to rework a game that's as rotten as NG3. I'm honestly surprised they managed to push it up to around "mediocre" from "complete trash".
>>343219928
>leave game kino to me
>>343219928
I still say the original trailer is everything he wanted it to be
>>343219928
Devil's Third is a great game. Wii U, a dead console, already has more worthwhile exclusives than PS4 and Xbone (which will have none) will have at the end of their lifespan.
I don't blame Itagaki for failing in the current marketplace. The #players are the problem. Hope DT does well on PC.
>>343220265
this
>>343221343
no, NG2 was a bug ridden unbalanced glitchfest
DOA was pure shit until DOA5 which he had nothing to do with.
Itagaki held back Team Ninja.
>>343235441
>any doa game
>good pick one and only one
how many of you had issues with your fathers?
>>343236410
are you trying to insinuate that my father was an oatmeal cookie?
>>343235902
The only ones that aren't good are 1 and 4. That other anon's still an idiot thought because while 5 is the best in the series, it's only by a little bit. And the game brought it's own host of issues that the others didn't have.
So do I pick up NG Sigma or Sigma Plus? I don't have an xbox but I do own a PS3 and a Vita.
>>343237602
Definitely the PS3 version. Vita versions are gimped. Just know that either way you're getting a downgraded gameplay experience (although upgraded graphics at least) compared to Black. Still good though.
I wonder what Nioh would be like if Itagaki had stuck around long enough to helm it
>>343237743
No alpha survey for one.
>>343222892
He's legit a bit of a headcase.
>>343237743
I wonder what games would be like if dickriders would stop swinging from that one hit wonder hack's nuts.
>>343219928
Itagaki actually acknowledged some of the criticism of Devil's Third on his facebook account. I also remember him posting that he was unhappy with the technical shortcomings in the final game, but I can't find that post.
Don't worry Itagaki, Aerosmith will save you again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkK8g6FMEXE
>>343238537
>DOA2
>DOA3
>XBV
>NGB
>NG2
All better than anything Team Ninja has made since his departure, save for maybe DOA5. Go to bed Hayashi you ruined the fucking studio.
>>343238108
>They don't like durability, eh? That's that, we're making equipment even more fragile now!
>>343237719
Thanks man.
>you're getting a downgraded gameplay experience
How so? I might consider borrowing an xbox if it's something significant.
>>343238737
DOAXBV was always shit, every iteration.
DOA2 sure is wonderful with all that shit balance and counters that take 50% health off a simple jab
DOA3 see DOA2
NG/NGB is his one hit wonder, he's never done anything good otherwise
NG2 is pure shit
>>343238790
Better than removing it completely. I'm so worried they're going to butcher the game because of the casuals who likely wouldn't have bought it anyway. The durability was fine as it forced you to try various weapons and the game gave you new ones constantly.
>>343238945
Enemy configurations are different, AI is less aggressive overall, and the game is just balanced differently. Sigma is still a great game but Black is the definitive version. But Sigma is still well worth playing. Sigma 2 isn't quite as good though.
>>343238981
a durability wasn't needed to get people to use other weapons in Ninja Gaiden, stop with this durability forcing people to use other weapons fallacy, people will use what they want and if a situation calls for it change their weapon for what's appropriate.
Now fuck off Soulsfag and take your artificial difficulty garbage with you. TN games are skill based difficulty not shit like OH FUCK MY WEAPON BROKE IN TWO SWINGS NOW I'M GETTING MY ASS KICKED nonsense.
>>343238974
XBV was good. Xtreme 2 is when they started sucking.
DOA5 has even more balance issues than 2 or 3.
NG2 is the second best action game ever made.
Only thing shit here is your taste.
>>343239353
NGB/NGS , DMC1 , DMC3SE, DMC4SE > NG2
It's shit babby. deal with it.
>>343239353
Even Itagaki himself apologized for how bad ninja gaiden 2 was, now please kys and stop posting.
>>343239207
I don't even like Souls. A durability system is not "artificial difficultly". I'm sorry you're too much of a casual to learn more than one weapon at a time. Forcing players to learn more weapons also forces them to develop more skill, not just in combat but also in resource management. Developing skill may be beyond a faggot like you but don't ask them to dumb down the game just to accommodate your retarded ass.
>>343239726
>all this projecting and deflecting
hit a nerve soulsbabby?
>>343239594
DMC3 and 4 are shit games. NG2 is far better in every way.
>>343239858
I'm loving every laugh, just how butt devastated are you?
>>343240101
Not very. How's that DMC 5 coming along BTW? Those post-Sony conference threads sure were entertaining. Hope you like pachinko.
>>343240284
yeah you got triggered alright, it's hilariously obvious just how pissed off you are.
>>343240459
Looks like somebody's upset their favorite franchise got relegated to pachinko hell. Don't worry maybe you'll get a DmC2 to look forward to.
>>343240762
you keep trying yet I'm the one still laughing. Go back to your souls games kiddo.
>>343241138
OK sure and you can go back to your... oh, wait.
>>343224941
One thing I actually really like about Ninja Gaiden Black is the grim tone and grotesque aesthetic that the sequels basically ignored. It looks and feels like a game that spent several years in development whereas as 2 and 3 completely lack that feeling.
>>343240284
I'm not sure an NG fan should be shittalking anybody about the future or current status of any other franchise
>>343241605
Razor's Edge, hell vanilla NG3, is still better than DmC was and a hell of a lot better than a fucking pachinko machine. And while a new NG is inevitable DMC is as dead as a door nail.
>>343242065
The sad thing is even if Capcom wanted to make a DMC5 they probably couldn't afford to, especially with SFV underperforming.
>>343220946
Is the campaign ever even coming to PC?
>>343242623
they're also ruining RE by turning it into yet ANOTHER FIRST PERSON SHOOTER
>>343242904
>first person shooter
Where are you getting this from? All we know is that it'll be first person and yes will have guns in it. But that hardly makes it a fps. That's like saying Xbox Breakdown was an fps or that the old REs were tps.
>>343220946
if he had some brains on him, he shouldnt have wasted money on buying back the IP
>>343242065
Both NG3 and DmC are embarrassments. RE is definitely an improvement over vanilla, but there's only so much that can be done with something as bad as NG3. Not to even mention Yaiba.
I prefer NG to DMC in general. I'm just saying glass houses throwing stones etc.
>>343243851
>work passionately on something for years
>expected to throw all that work away when there's an opportunity to salvage it
In the end it clearly wasn't the best decision, but it's perfectly reasonable to see why he did it.
>>343244330
well, look at it, it doesnt even feature the same characters from original THQ one, the work has been thrown away anyway. Even the combat has been changed
the released Devil's Third is similar with the Devil's Third THQ version in nothing but name
Sucks the online already shut down. I wanted to play the PC version.
>>343239721
You lying piece of fucking shit. He never said that.
>>343244808
Well actually, some shit from the original version did make it to the final version. Watch the Hard Gay video for Devil's Third, they show off the model for the second boss, Grundla Saha. IT IS ALSO NO COINCIDENCE HE IS THE BEST BOSS IN THE GAME.
DT really is conflicting, because you can definitely see the really good parts of the game by playing it. They're there. But the game's fucked development really hinders everything about the game.
Nintendo really left the game out to die by doing three things.
1. THE SMALLEST FUCKING SHIPMENT EVER
2. Amazon Only in Japan
3. $60 launch
I do appreciate that it got a physical release in all honesty, but NoA almost shouldn't have bothered.
>>343244808
Because they had to cobble together whatever they had ready to meet Nintendo's release target. They likely banked on getting the IP and finding someone else to fund the rest of development, but when nobody bit they went with Nintendo who basically told them to get whatever they could ready to ship ASAP. Again it ultimately didn't work out for them but that was only really knowable with the benefit of hindsight.
>>343245195
yes he did, he was sorry for how poor a state the game was in.
I wonder what Itagaki's wife and daughter are like? You'd figure having a nutjob like Cookie Monster as the main man in your life would be rather interesting.
>>343245082
They shut down in December. Doesn't really mean a thing because the MP is pretty goddamn dead anyway. Japan just got Devil's Third Online if you care.
Also, THE FUCKING DRAMA WITHIN SEIGES AND CLANS HOLY SHIT.
>>343245320
I have to wonder, would the game have been more polished if it came out globally in December instead of mainly in August?
So what happened to the planned PC version?
>>343245616
They've shutdown the Wii U version's multiplayer to focus on cobbling together the PC version, which is multiplayer-only.
>>343245742
Does it have a release date yet?
>>343245810
Still officially TBA, as far as I know.
>>343245894
And how much do you know?
>>343245894
>>343245810
Apparently came out in Japan a few weeks ago.
Also, Chickens is the best mode.
>>343245320
>>343245236
well it's because he has struck with the Sony Curse™
the curse is put on developers that bad mouthed Sony. anyone struck with this curse will be struck with bad luck and doomed to irrelevancy.
Shinji Mikami hated Sony, so he is now Bethesda's butt monkey.
Sakaguchi hated Sony for saving Square, so now he is making mobile games.
Swery laughed at PS4 owners because they will not get D4, now, he is "sick" and D4 is in limbo.
Suda5's mentor hated Sony and mocked them in Sony stage by presenting a Dreamcast logo, so his games bombed and died poor.
>>343246168
I thought the Sony Curse was how their hardware always shits out on you after a few years.
>>343246168
Sony didn't save Square, Enix did.
>>343246168
Capcom declined to add trophies in P3rd and now MH is stuck in handhelds that have the build quality of a bootlegged console
>>343238945
The PS3 version also has some slowdown in certain areas. It's not game breaking but still annoying when it happens. It's also missing the opening movie that actually explains key aspects of the story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzKFrIjgbhI
>>343246550
Sony bought enough non-controlling shares, mind you, enough for Square to operate enough so they can go ahead with the merger to save Square.
Mind you, Square and Enix was going with the merger, but the Spirits Within bombed so hard and tanked Square so much, Enix backed out.
Sony basically saved Square. and Sakaguchi hated that. He has a massive ego, like Inafune who lies being the creator of Megaman. Sakaguchi lies about Final Fantasy saving Square, when it was actually Rad Racer saved them from being in the red
>>343246568
No, Capcom burned Sony when they released a statement that they said 360 is their lead development platform.
The following year, they reaveled Capcom has little money left in the bank.
Now, they came back groveling at Sony's feet.
>>343247120
Guess that partly explains their willingness to jump at Sony's offer to do Deep Down with Japan studio.
>all these devs and publishers shit all over sony
>get fucked in the ass so hard they can barely walk
>come crawling back begging forgivness
>sony picks em back up and puts them back on their feet warmly
>devs/publishers proceed to spit in their face again
Sony really are the nice guys.
You know what Itagaki's top seven worst games of all time are
Tekken
Tekken 2
Tekken 3
Tekken 4
Tekken 5
Tekken 6
Tekken 7
>>343248203
I thought he made up with the Tekken people though?Tekken has been mostly shit since the PS2 days anyway. Hopefully 7 ends up decent.
>>343246168
I wonder if Team Ninja is making Ni-oh PS4 exclusive just to spite him.
>>343220946
>>Nintendo closes your online component (the only fun part of your game) in 2016
Shit, really? Harsh.
I was looking forward to the PC port, too. It DID look fun. Last I checked it was in open beta in Japan only, I hope it comes to SOMETHING after all this time.
>>343248203
>>343248372
>DOA always does worse than Tekken with Itagaki at the helm
>Itagaki fired
>Hayashi makes first good DOA with DOA5
>it outsells TTT2
If you want more proof of what a talentless hack Itagaki was look no further.
>>343248203
I'm still amused to this day that he was still using Ninja Gaiden promotional sad a chance to take pops off at Tekken.
>>343248496
Ni-Oh was originally a PS3 project. ALL THE WAY BACK IN 2005.
>>343248595
DoA Ultimate is still the best Dead or Alive game. Dimensions and 5 are both fantastic at least.
Also, DoAX3 is dogshit.
>>343248595
Literally none of that is true though.
>>343248857
literally all of it is true
>>343246168
Don't you dare make fun of Swery I own a ps4 if people want to talk shit let them it's not that serious. Don't start taking shots at a sick guy
>>343248843
Xtreme 3 is okay. Much better than 2 and Paradise.
>>343248892
DOA has been good since 2 and TTT2, despite being a worse game than DOA5, sold equally well on less platforms.
>>343249092
>better than 2
Not with that lack of content. Paradise is also a post-Itagaki game.
>>343248857
DoA is another one of those series that was never good until recently like Mortal Kombat and Killer Instinct. If DoA5 didn't have 6 $95 season passes I have no problem telling people it's a good game
>>343249317
It also lacked 2's fuckton of bugs, horrible graphics, and performance issues. I'll take the nice looking voyeur sim with less content that actually functions over the awful looking one with more content that shits itself constantly.
>>343249392
MK2 and UMK3 were good, underage-kun. Much like DOA2 and 3 were.
>>343249568
Or just play the first game, which was the best one anyway. The only fucking reason people give such a big shit about 3 was because it wasn't localized and PlayAsia used that to their advantage.
Wow, the fact this almost parallels Ninja Gaiden is fucking astonishing.
>first game is the best
>second game is full of content, but is sorta rough around the edges
>third game obviously looks the best and works, but has the least amount of content and is generally a worse game
>>343249663
>You underage
What a dumb thing to say, the love of old MK is purely based on nostalgia. List what makes those games good and I might be willing to let you get away with being a little shit
Mechanically, the game looks like Vanquish without the polish. Has anybody actually played both and compared them?
>>343250697
It's a game that has an incredibly satisfying melee system, that despite being rather simple, feels great to actually use.
But then decides HEY LETS MAKE THE PLAYER USE THESE SHITTY WEIGHTLESS GUNS A LOT. The game is lots of fun when you can just use your melee weapons (which there's a variety of), sadly that's almost only on boss fights or small mobs. There's a really big variety of guns too, but they're all samey.
>>343251197
Dead to Right: Retribution handled transitioning between shooting and melee pretty well. Shame nobody played it.
>>343251498
Devil's Third handles it incredibly well and it's obvious that the mechanic was something that was always in the game.
Guns just don't feel really well to use. They're not awful, but they either kill enemies to fast or in the case of the BIGHUEG enemies take forever.
>>343248997
talk shit, get hit.
Swery talked shit, so he got cursed. What's so good about him anyways, he's just a bargain bin Suda5
