ask a guy who just won wwii as germany anything.
also let's talk why pic related game is absolute casual trash.
>>343218387
I don't really care desu.
>>343218387
>>343218458
Savage
go back to /gsg/
All Paradox games are casual trash desu
>>343218458
you don't care about me winning or about the game being trash?
And those images are still not enough to show how awful HOI4 is.
>>343218387
Only thing that bothers me about the game is that some minor alliesi like hungaryi always gets 1-province puppets during Peace Treaties. Is there a way to prevent that?
>>343218697
Both
Everyone knows the game is casual, but if you think that winning as Reich is an achievement - kill yourself
>>343218603
i know this is bait, but still
>>343218864
kek'd
i'm sure your idea of achievement is winning as england or USA, right?
>>343218806
yes, if that minor country did some significant shit in the warl, it will get more points to spend in the peace conference and thus more new territories. and anyway, this game has plenty of things that should bother you. unless you are a fucking casual, that is
>>343218889
>dude map painting so hardcore xD
kys cuck
>>343218889
Hes not wrong
Ever since EU4, Paradox games have become super casual
>>343218387
what make it more casual compare to the older one?
>>343218387
Most of my experience is DH/Arsenal of Democracy. I'm aware that 4 is pretty casual. How is 3 as a wargame?
>>343219142
>i'm sure your idea of achievement is winning as england or USA, right?
You seriously consider winning as germany an achievement? Wow
>>343219224
Don't really matter as long as you have fun desu famalam.
>>343219302
Quite inferior compared to the likes of War in the East/West
>>343219163
>>343219224
only a retarded nigger could seriously consider casual vicII or hoi3. and if that's what you are implying, than make the world a favour and drink a bleach shot
What is it about Paradox games that makes for such awful threads
>>343219427
>war in the east
>manual is like 600 pages
>stickied on the steam forums is a short bootcamp tutorial
>It's 200 pages
whyyyyyyy
I don't get why paradox ruined their own franchise. I mean it doesn't matter how much you dumb down or casualize hearts of iron. No normie faggot would ever in a million years buy it regardless. All they've done is ensure the hearts of iron franchise goes down the shitter.
>>343219475
They don't mean those. But they're elitists who got cucked by Paradox for not giving them Spreadsheet Simulator 2016™®
>playing casual trash games
Must be tough having such a low IQ that you think shit like HoI4 is difficult.
>>343219585
It's from Matrix Games, what the fuck did you expect? Wargames are not for the crowd
>>343219641
>ruined their own franchise
Aren't they selling really well, anon? And besides, it's not like the market is either LE HARDCORE GAMER or le casuls.
>>343219641
Paradox is following the Bethesda model of endlessly hyping up their game for casuals and then delivering a shallow mess
>>343218497
wew
looks like a vic 2 germany after reaching 25 infamy
>>343219585
War in the East is actually quite easy to learn when compared to War in the West or War in the Pacific.
>>343219302
quite good, very complex, but obviously not perfect, it has some minor flaws.
never played war in the east so I can't actually compare the two of them.
>>343219292
research, diplomacy and trade have been extremely simplified. espionage has been completely eliminated. management of both aerial and naval units has been pretty much automated and heavily limited in terms of choices.
the game is considerably easier than its predecessor. i've never beaten hoi3, but I beat this one on the second go
>>343219789
The market is mouth breathing normies, weebs, and the very small niche of jaded pcfags that know they should quit video games but can't.
>>343218497
>China
This game is such a joke
>>343218497
>China
>>343219753
>>343219835
>want to find out more information on a game mechanic (hypothetical example, let's say supplies)
>google "war in the east supplies"
>hundreds of articles about historical wars and nothing about the game
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
>>343218387
Has the latest patch even tried to fix the braindead AI?
The game was practically unplayable last time I touched it, Paradox is becoming a fucking joke
>>343219938
The UK owned Hong Kong.
Why do they always use Rommel instead of someone better like Manstein or Guderian? Damn brit propaganda.
>>343219706
sorry you're an adhd autist who can't handle actual in depth mechanics
>>343219789
Stellaris sold well, and then they made steamspy take down their numbers on Paradox games because they showed that 90% of people had already dropped it a week later due to no content past the early game
>>343219976
Their forums are very helpful, especially to noobs like you
Just ask there and they will point you to the right direction or answer themselves.
I never personally bothered because I just don't have the time to invest in those games
>>343219976
Well, it actually seeks to simulate the conflict rather than being a vehicle for REALISTIC WORLDS so real-world knowledge should be applicable to a high degree
>>343219976
theres a massive manual you shithead
>>343220052
if they used either of those on the cover art people would just ask why rommel looked weird in the promo art
>>343218602
This exact same thing happened in one of my games
>>343220032
Yeah and? You think the British Empire is comparable to the RoC?
>>343220020
>becoming
>>343218728
there is nothing wrong with this image
players should be able to have option to control their nation
>>343220156
historical knowledge about supply trains won't help me figure out whether it's alright to let the HQs automatically run railroad repair or I need to do it manually
>>343219706
kek
>>343219717
I don't think it is you autistic faggot, that's exactly the point of this rant-thread of mine
>>343220020
they already died definitively with that shit stellaris
>>343220052
>implying rommel wasn't the best
manstein was pretty good for special ops, but as a general tactic rommel is second to none
>>343220052
Because in the public you're only allowed to like Rommel, because he was a "good nazi" and helping to try to kill Hitler made him "good" too.
>>343219961
>>343219938
i played a game as communist mexico where China ended up with most of Germany and all of Turkey except Ankara
Ask a guy who kept the USA intact in Kaiserreich anything
>>343220492
Fuck off syndicalist
>>343220492
You better not be some fucking syndicalist.
>>343220492
>implying that playing as usa could ever be considered hard
>>343218728
This one is fine and realistic
>>343220278
>map painting
>>343220314
>as a general tactic rommel is second to none
Whatever you say my lad
>>343220673
>>343220661
Not a syndicalist. AUS for days
>>343220706
>he's never played kaiserreich
>>343220717
On the Ethiopa part...
>>343220706
AUS can be pretty hard until your first round of MIL comes in because the AI is too retarded to produce a proper number of divisions
>>343220767
Nice try, that's not keeping the USA intact, that's just winning the civil war
>>343218387
Did you leave Luxembourg alone?
>>343220871
Fugg I've been detected :DDDDDDD
>>343220969
There's no doubt Long a best though
>objectively superior Free Market
>can still go full Authoritarian to declare war on anyone
>>343220718
>>map painting
its the starting map with governments changed
>>343221093
True. Still, now I have to go play again and try to preserve the union. Brb.
NEVER FORGET EAST VS. WEST. the cold war dlc for Hoi 4 will be garbage
What's wrong with the game? I played darkest hour back in the days, how does this game compare to it?
>>343221214
That's not really fun because you need to bend over for the syndicalists at every opportunity, and even if you manage to avoid the war, you're still stuck with most of your peacetime IC penalty
>>343221308
It doesn't.
Bought hears of iron 2, gave up in short order. the game is overwhelming
it is worth getting gud?
>>343221103
>not knowing that map painting can be used to describe a game that lets you change anything in random ways
You're supposed to lead a country, not be a country.
>>343221346
Ugh. I guess I have to stick with based Australasia to restore the Empire for my next run.
>>343218497
I once saw Australia launch a successful naval invasion on Germany. I was impressed at long they managed to hold that tiny bit of land.
>>343221530
you can always just cheat a bit and remove the IC penalty in your save file
>>343221453
>not knowing that map painting can be used to describe a game that lets you change anything in random ways
thats a really shitty logic that only leads to railroading destroying replayibility
if you want to create german-russian alliance against allies, you should be able to work for it
>>343221308
It only improved on production and somehow managed to make nearly everything else worse
The AI is inept and cannot perform maneuvers more complex than just pushing their line, if even that. It'll often fight over useless territory in the middle of Africa or conduct suicidal naval invasions
Naval balance is completely fucked up, you can just make a bunch of high speed screens and annihilate everything
Speed seems to be the only thing you need to focus on for both ships and planes, anything else is just a waste
There aren't battle outcome statistics and it's difficult to keep track of how much equipment you're losing at any given time
The tech tree is a joke and allows minors to easily keep up with majors
Logistics have been massively simplified, tanks essentially have infinite fuel
You can essentially lead every single division using a single field marshal
Don't bother with this shit, Paradox is dead
>>343221530
not him, but I would recommend trying out National France at one point. They have pretty decent tech teams and are backed by the entente, and have the option to either take other countries like Italy and Britain to help you retake france from the german barbarians, or make a beachhead during the second weltkreig and try to take as much of southern france as possible when the commune collapses
>>343222109
They have the option to declare the Napoleonic Empire reborn, right? That was pretty cool, second only to Mongolia
>>343220052
Actually, the game includes Manstein as an available general for your armies (as Germany obv) and he is equal to or better than Rommel in all circumstances.
Rate my lebensraum, /v/
Italy did fucking great in north africa and won single handedly, and Japan beat the shit out of the USA on the high seas somehow.
Rommel ended up dying leading an armoured assault on Moscow
>>343222109
I would like to try that actually. I like the idea that Canada and nat. France have to cooperate to retake the homelands.
>>343221990
And then I can remove syndicalists to my hearts content.
>>343222463
I only ever played Kaiserreich and HoI3, how can you even pull off Barbarossa when there's barely any provinces to maneuver in? This game just seems made for static line warfare
>>343222581
It's pretty easy to smash the russian line, and since the majority of the terrain in western russia is flatlands, tanks do exceptionally well in encircling and keeping divisions from regrouping.
Also, an event fires if you or one of your allies capture Stalingrad, Leningrad, Moscow, the Baku oil fields, and Vladivostok which gives germany 1/3rd of russia, japan 1/3rd, and leaves the rest of the USSR as a minor power which I moped up once the peace treaty expired. The initial war lasted from May until September, the second one from May until February because the winter slowed everything down.
>>343222905
Well my point kind of was that it's either impossible to get through or way too easy because it's like 2 provinces from frontline to Moscow
>may till september
definitely too easy
>>343222463
richyboy get out
>>343223180
If you sign the molotov-ribbentrop pact then it's actually a decent ways to moscow, the only reason it was so easy for me is that I completely ignored the navy and the Luftwaffe in favor of producing more infantry and armoured divisions, to the point where I actually outnumbered the russians. I also invaded in 1940 so russia was still quite behind technology wise.
>>343223363
What did you about the Republic of Britain or Syndicalist France?
whats the best GSG to start with?
Which country should I play?
>>343223860
FINLAND
>Post-CK2 Paradox
>Casual trash
You don't say.
>>343223603
Eu3 or 4
My test game for fast world conquest. You should be able to conquer Allies + US and Soviets well before august '39.
>>343223575
I invaded france ahead of schedule in october of 1939, got a surrender in about a month. Then I fortified the northern coast of france, invaded norway, and made preparations for Barbarosa. After the first war with the USSR ended in their surrender, I moved tanks through Baku into Persia, and after that India. Once that was done, the peace treaty was almost up so I built up my forces a bit more and took the rest of the USSR.
After that I spent roughly 2 years fortifying europe and building up a massive navy and airforce, which I then parked in the English Channel to allow for a landing on the UK, which went flawlessly for the most part.
Britain still held Gibraltar so I had to end up invading Spain to get to them so I could annex Britain (as well as doing a naval assault on Fiji for the victory point needed to annex and New Zealand while my ships were there).
>>343218387
Is the game really as bad as the dev diaries suggested?
I stopped following after no counters
>>343223860
Hungary, undo Trianon
This game is pretty fun if you don't feel like dealing with the micromanagement of HoI3
Holy fuck naval invasions are tedious as fuck. Makes me not want to play any naval powers.
>>343218497
This is what will kill paradox
>>343224157
Sounds like you fucking rekt those syndy fucks. Good work.
>>343219938
I had such high hopes for this game. Maybe Podcat was right about the game not being dumbed down? But no, the 1,5 year delay did not yield results.
>>343220032
The UK acquired Hong Kong through centuries of gradual naval and mercantile supremacy. It's not like they just sailed across the globe non-stop from Liverpool and seized it.
>>343221228
>EvW died for this
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
>>343220152
>stellaris
The worst purchase I have ever made on steam.
Can't even refund because I kept thinking it would get better.
>>343225216
Yeah, Italy nutted up and became a real nigga though. They won North Africa super fast, then kept going and kicked England, Belgium, and France out of Africa. Then the allies invaded Vichy France's West African holdings, which Italy also repelled. Then South Africa declared war on the Axis, and Italy promptly marched back down there and stomped their shit as well.
>>343221228
>>343225489
To be fair, EvW was scrapped because it was an unplayable mess. The issues ran to deep to be repairable. But yeah, PDS will most likely settle for a garbage DLC of the Cold War.
>>343224716
Naval invasions are the shit tbqh.
>>343218497
What if they patched peace conventions to give states a modifier that affects cost to annex based on distance from your nearest province or capital. I think there should also be a modifier affected who's troops did the hardest fighting or were most effective in that region. It's annoying to work your ass off taking a particular peace of land only to have some nation a million miles away annex it before you can.
>>343226156
>On the next episode of Mussolini's Wet Dreams
Seriously though Italy stepping the fuck up.
