The game would be much better without this piece of shit
>>343211867
literally just git gud
>he still thinks bastion is overpowered
It's time to move on and get good
They need to remove Hanzo so that retards will stop picking him
>Bastion is too far
>Snipe him with literally anyone with medium range
>Bastion is too stupid
>Attack him from behind; he has a gigantic hitbox
>Bastion can't move
>You can. Run to him and start shooting and jumping like crazy. Bastion can't aim for shit on close range.
WOW THAT SURE WAS HARD
>>343211867
Use soldier or pharah same for turrets.
The problem is that people never change heroes.
>>343211867
I've killed this fucker plenty of times as Zen for fuck's sake. You just suck.
He's not op, but defiantly anti-fun, not to mention he rolls with an anti-fun def comp.
>TB
>bastion
>reinhardt
>mercy/lucio
>smetra
>tech offence hero (76/winstion/phara)
Pretty much just want to stop playing attack on maps like temple of Anubis. But bastion isn't really the problem, mercy/lucio need to take a hit.
>still complaining about bastion
>>343211867
Bastion isn't OP but he sucks ass. That fucking sentry form does damage faster than anything else in the game that isn't an ult.
>>343213101
If he didn't do that damage his trade off for being a fucking immobile target wouldn't be worth it.
Pick him off from a distance or flank him, literally git gud.
I used to think Bastion was OP, but no, he's pretty shit and easy to counter. The only ones deserving of deletion or nerfs are either Roadhog or Mei.
Roadhog is fucking cancer
>>343213408
Roadhog is fine m8, you just need to take into consideration his cooldown for his healing.
You want to play someone like reaper or Mcree and widdle his health down until he's forced to heal, back up, and repeat.
>>343211867
>playing ranked and rein since nobody wants to do it
>bastion is fucking my team up
>tell them to get behind my shield and take him out
>nobody does
>he ults like 5 times that round
>get stomped but block almost 40k damage
>gold in elims from having to charge the bastion player myself after ultng
He's a pubstomper and nothing more but with the average skill level of an overwatch player it will take until the end of the year where people will be able to deal with him.
>>343213408
I hope Mei never gets nerfed.
>>343211867
Are you fucking retarted? He's the second worst character in the game. If there's a non-shitter genji on your team, bastion will end up with zero kills. Stop sucking at overwatch.
Only op character is torj on consoles, and he's getting nerfed but not nearly enough. There's nothing like facing 5 torjborns on every defense stage and you die the second you turn the corner because widow can't hit a damn thing with the controller.
>>343213408
Roadhog literally gives the other team free ults
Hes great at pubstomping but in premades his effectiveness caps out at making all the other tanks respect him
>>343212176
This. Or buff him into overall usefulness.
Good Hanzos are fucking rare, but holy shit why do so many shitters pick him
>>343213408
>Roadhog and Mei needing nerfs
Are you fucking serious? Roadhog is balanced just about perfectly, and Mei is underpowered if anything.
>>343213408
When will the "Mei is OP" meme stop? Literally garbage hero next to zenyatta
>>343211867
Quite literally acquire skill.
>>343213820
not just genji. Anyone that has any long range weapon that can peak can take out a genji easily. Even a tracer with a good flank/sticky ult can kill him before he knows she's behind him. I constantly shit on bastion as tracer.
I never had a problem with bastion on PC but holy shit is he cancer on console. Same with Torbjorn.
>>343213408
Mei is just fucking annoying to play against. Nothing about her is overpowered.
>>343214028
>genji
whoops, meant to say bastion
>>343213408
>The only ones deserving of deletion or nerfs are either Roadhog or Mei
I knew /v/ was shit at videogames but I'm always surp^rised when I see posts like this
>>343213948
She's not even slightly garbage. She's fairly op actually. Most just don't know how to play her
Anyone who complains about heroes are the kind of people who only play one and refuse to switch.
>>343214167
>x is not shit you just need to know how to play it
your shitty pubs adventures don't matter faggot, mei is shit and you stomping 12 years old with her doesn't mean anything
>>343214167
>the best players in the world just don't know how to play her
Listen to yourself.
>>343214150
Dear god what kind of a fucking shit player says shit like this? I'm assuming he plays as someone roadhog counters and never switches.
And mei? Lolol
>>343211867
>whining about one of the weakest characters in the game
I can tell you're either new or in MMR hell
>>343211867
t. shitter
>>343212781
Defiantly?
>>343214150
you realize you just said you were shit at videogames
>>343214358
> I'm assuming he plays as someone roadhog counters and never switches.
Roadhog is a strong character, the McRee nerfs really helped him, and is great in pubs, I never said the opposite, Mei is literally the weakest character in the game right now
>>343214330
Do you even pay attention to usage stats? She's used more often than quite a few heroes, actually. And you're an uber faggot for misquoting me, fucking faggot. You were created in a faggoty laboratory and assembled from parts harvested from lesser faggots
>>343213925
You cant exactly get better at playing a different character if you dont? I dont see why people get so frustrated at someone trying to play more characters because the game is all about changing and it just makes it that much easier to do so when have a large pool to pick from. Yea theyre gonna be shit when they start but theyre never gonna get better at that character if they never play them and learn the ins and outs of the character.
>>343213408
>he thinks pubstomp heroes are OP
>>343214605
>She's used more often than quite a few heroes, actually
you even manage to be wrong at facts that are easy to find
/v/ babbies whining about bastion and mei, the pub shitter low MMR characters oy vey.
>Its a "/v/ continues to try and convince people that low tier characters are secretly OP but will never get a team together and win what should essentially be free money to them" episode
>>343214557
No she fucking isnt, omg you unimaginable faggot. Stop announcing that you know nothing about the overwatch meta with this bullshit misinformation.
The worst character is zenyatta. He didn't even get picked once during a recent tournament, and that was out of about 900 opportunities. Not once. Mei got picked 163 times.
>>343214605
You're a special kind of retarded. But carry on in thinking arguably the worst character in the game is overpowered.
>>343214731
Actually I'm right. The fucking usage stats are posted quite often. I'd suggest looking at them and then flossing your teeth with your teeny tiny pennis.
>>343214815
I'm surprised McCree is that low, honestly. In the right hands he's still a motherfucker. Clockwork was destryoing dudes with him. It's a shame Splyce kind of sucks at teamwork still; hopefully they get their shit together or Clockwork gets to join a better team.
>>343214976
>The fucking usage stats are posted quite often.
like these one ?
>>343214815
>>343214904
Who the hell said she was overpowered? Nobody? Die via forceful sodomy you ravaging homosexual
we're literally 2 months past that bro, now it's Genji fags abusing his broken movement
>>343215112
>nerf this character that isn't overpowered!
>>343211867
>He ooga
>me booga
I want overwatch threads to be bannable.
>>343214989
Why? They nerfed him into garbage. Reaper is 10 times better than McRee in any situation now
>>343214989
Its mainly a kneejerk reaction with him and Widow, many people have said they'll probably rise up a little bit but they definitely won't be the powerhouses they once were. Now that its literally impossible for McCree to take a character like Reaper from 250>0 in a combo and shred tanks it opened up a lot of the offensive character choices.
>>343214976
You mean >>343214815 these stats? The ones that directly contradict you?
>>343215112
see
>>343214167
>She's fairly op actually
>>343212781
>attacking in Anubis
>defending team is a tromblerone, Bastion, Rein and Mercy (dont remember the other two, maybe one was a hanzo)
>We finally break their defenses
>HEROES NEVER DIE
lol these nubs are seriously complaining about frigging bastion? Still? The only real hero than needs a nerf is zenyatta, fuck that guy
>>343215315
T r o m b l e r o n e
>wtf
>>343211867
>high tier players say to buff him cuz he's trash that competent people have no issues fighting
>low tier players say to nerf him cuz they're trash that competent people have no issues stomping with bastion
>>343215361
>the only hero that needs a nerf is the worst hero in the game that nobody even picks to begin with
>X IS SO OP
>X IS NOT OP
>Y SUCKS
>Y IS OP
Hey guys, just wrapping up the thread for everybody, have a good one.
>>343215361
yeah, he's hidden op, people just don't know how to play him, these usage stats I don't have agree with me
>>343215564
Don't forget
>heh, you just haven't ran into a good X
>>343212280
>bastion has his back to a wall, and can turn completely toward you in half a second anyway.
I would be more impressed with this "attack him from behind" meme if he could only turn like 180 degrees in turret mode.
>>343215246
i was actually joking about a moba board (or even just an OW board) but yeah it is really starting to get the fuck out of hand
actiblizz certainly know how viral marketing works, it was such an effective blitz that now the game fanbase is sustaining itself on complaining nonstop, while refusing to stop playing because somehow they've already spent hundreds on skinner boxes for shitty skins
>>343212176
White list genji and hanzo when.
>>343215315
When its a comp like that, if you don't kill their mercy, you cant win.
>>343215664
That's how he worked in beta, but he had a shield in front of him
>>343215247
He's better against tanks, but McCree is still vastly better at killing Genji, Tracer, Pharah, Lucio and Mercy. Reaper has better survivability and a huge ult, but for picking out a flanker or someone out of position McCree is still great. You just have to actually hit people in the head instead of being a right click retard.
If anything he competes more with S76, and S76 is just flat out the best damage character because his only weakness is that he's a jack of all trades kind of character. I don't think he needs a nerf because he can definitely be countered, but he's almost never a bad pick in one hero limit.
>>343215250
The Widowmaker reaction is an even bigger kneejerk. Most of the pros that played her even said the main reason they haven't recently is because the scope change completely fucked with their rhythm. Once people practice her again and relearn her she'll be back. The best players already weren't doing bodyshot into partial charge bodyshot, they were hitting people in the head. If you can still do that and weren't doing the quickscope bullshit Widowmaker wasn't really even nerfed (the callout change honestly seems like a bugfix).
tl;dr it's only a matter of time before Widowmaker dominates the meta again at the highest level because she's still a hyper mobile sniper with 200 health, an assault rifle with no weapon switch time and can semi auto one shot people one after another.
>>343213619
>mfw you switch reaper and sneak up behind him, get two pointblank shots on him while jumping like crazy and he turns around, hooks you and one hits you.
>mfw you switch to reaper and we both see eachother, i bait his hook and uses my wraith form to dodge his hook and now I am stuck in wraithform for 3 seconds exactly.
>mfw I now have 3 seconds to do 900hp before his hook is back off CD
>mfw when I get him down to 10-20 before he remember that his hook is only on a 6 seconds CD
>mfw he hooks me and kill me with one shot
A roadhog in a pub who has played him for more than 5 hours to "master" the hook+blam+meele combo is worse than McCree pre-nerf. A decent roadhog will beat everysingle character once he hits that hook just like a decent McCree could beat everysingle character once he hit the flashbang. At least the flashbang wouldn't chase you around corners nor had the range of a Widowmaker high on adderall.
>>343215720
>enemy team has a genji
>literally all he does is randomly throw shurikens that never hit anything, and then double jump and dash around like an idiot so hes a pain to hit.
>he is literally nothing but an annoyance that probably gets 2 kills the entire game
why do they think this makes sense
>>343215718
Let me guess, games that you like are never viralled on /v/, but instead generate discussion through genuine interest?
>Pick Genji
>Teleport behind him
>unsheathe your ninja stars
>make him turn towards you and shoot
>reflect
>bweep bweep boop
honto sugoi, onii-chan
As pharah
>line up shot
>fire two missiles at bastion from any decent range
>dead bastion
As genji
>use deflection
>dead bastion
As tracer
>use blink
>shoot
>dead bastion
As widow
>point gun at bastion
>shoot
>dead bastion
As soldier
>point reticle at bastion from any decent range
>shoot
>dead bastion
Good lord I could do this all day
>>343215745
>if you don't kill their mercy
I am all hears about how to kill that slut hidding behind the platform her team was on.
>>343215827
I dont really see the issue with it. As is, he just instaturns and kills people behind him with any situationaly awareness at all.
If he took double damage from behind, or somehow couldn't put his back to walls, or something, I would say attacking him from behind works, but as is, the only real strat is to sneak up on him with someone that can do 300 damage in 1 second, or blitz him and let 2 people die while the other 4 shoot him to death.
I would prefer he had a 90 degree shield directly in front of him but be squishy as fucking from every other angle.
>>343215919
Stop using reaper you non-knowing-how-to-play-overwatch motherfucker
I hate offense heroes like genji and tracer more because of how fucking hard they can be to kill. I wind up spending tons of time and effort killing these two shits than anything else.
>>343213619
>Roadhog is fine
wew lad.
>>343216128
>>If he took double damage from behind
that's kinda how it works already, since his head hitbox is the blue box behind him in turret form
>>343216219
Mei is legit anti-fun though.
>>343216128
Are you kidding? The games low tick rate basically artificially increases his reaction time if you get behind him.
>>343211867
No it would be better without.
>hanzo
>widowmaker
>mei
>genji
>>343216246
he's very strong since mcree got nerfed but he's still a walking ult battery for the ennemy team
>>343216297
congrats on being panel 3 you fucking retard, get over it.
>>343216005
>Two missiles
Uh
>>343215919
Play S76, shoot him in the head outside hook range. Roadhog's head hitbox is huge and if you play S76 correctly he has zero bullet spread.
Play Zarya, shield people as they're hooked and hold down shift if you are hooked. Most people flat out switch off Roadhog if you play Zarya against them correctly because it completely shuts down his ability to do literally anything.
>>343215537
What you fail to realize is that there is a hidden meta above the current tourney scene, and that's the level i'm on. Only the best of the best play there and it is basically 6 zenyattas vs 6 zenyattas with the occasional bastion thrown in just to counter zenyatta.
>>343214989
who the hell are you talking about? just play the game for your damn self
>>343216157
Name one character who can "counterplay" in any way after getting hooked.
You can't by the way because the only counter play against it is "Just don't get hooked" which is unrealistic as fuck.
>inb4 use your defensive if your character has one.
Not on a 20tick server and with the fact that the hook actually stuns you for a period.
>>343216250
It doesn't help NOW because he can set up right in front of a wall, making getting behind him virtually impossible and even if you do, he can instant turn to you the second he knows you are there. Unless he is dumb enough to let a widowmaker/hanzo get a full view of his back from a long fucking way away, which NEVER happens, its kind of pointless right now.
His backside being a head shot zone isn't a weakness. Its a strength.
>>343211867
I stopped caring about Bastion when I learned running at him and hoping I kill him first isn't good strategy.
>>343211867
>I'm telling my team that Bastion isn't gonna work against the enemy time because they aren't dumb
>Let's Bastion anyway
>Lose
Once you reach a certain MMR it's over for Bastion, he really needs a buff to be competitive same for the fat bitch Mei.
>>343215952
I don't like any game being "viralled", it is a shitty and manipulative way to force people to acknowledge your game.
it's literally "well you better start liking overwatch cuz we won't stop spamming it until you take the bait and get hooked on RNG loot boxes"
everything blizzard and activision do is just so suspicious and deceptive. i don't know how people can in good faith continue to buy their crap.
isn't it interesting that the "tracer pose" scandal came out of nowhere when people were shitting on Blizzard for their anti-consumer "you think you do but you don't" at Blizzcon? notice how not a single person has mentioned that since the Tracer pose thing happened? and then, oh psych, we were just adding a NEW pose, we're the good guys, yeah screw those SJWs amirite :^) supporting overwatch is cool and trendy now, all that stuff you heard about us being evil and grubby was just sjws!
>>343216474
>>343216526
That's what I implied with my post, also the hitbox is very small and hard to hit when he rotates
>>343215938
If your whole team is shooting at him and not killing him, he's being useful.
Zarya and junkrat nerfs when
I fucking hate these two more than anything else in the game
>unlimited spam grenades
>free ult kills
>lmao shield XD
Fuck them
>>343216442
Go back to fuck over your own team with you shitty wall.
>>343216467
A an on looker I agree. Zarya does fuck him up with her ability to shield teammates. You are not shielding yourself after being hooked though. The hook has a stun to it and remember here in overwatch we favour the shooter to make sure we keep the game as non toxic as possible. No one likes losing out on a kill :^)
Remive widovmaker and ults and the game becomes a solid 9/10.
>>343216651
Why would we shoot at him?
He wasn't hitting us.
The tiny bits of damage he did do were being healed by lucio's passive healing. He was like a gnat.
>>343216702
Junkrat would be balanced already if the Grenades would only half the damage if they bump off the environment.
>>343216759
>9/10
>when Hanzo exist
At least Windowmaker has to hit you
>>343216759
>and ults
so winning on offense maps is impossible ?
>>343216702
Zarya needs a buff to her ammo capacity. She doesn't need a nerf at all.
>>343211867
The game would be much better without a piece of shit like you.
>>343216005
Pharah needs 3. And bastion moves away after the first hit, if not the second.
If bastion stops shooting genji is dead.
Tracer dies faster than you can imagine against him. Only her ult can fuck him up.
Widow, same as pharah but most likely wont come far then.
>>343216702
PIECE OF JUNK
>>343216501
>being this retarded
When hooked:
Mei's ice wall
Pharahs jump
Tracers blink/recall
Genji dash
My mercy has never been hooked once because positioning
And that's just my rotation, I'm sure other heroes have easy roadhog escapes. Don't blame roadhog because your timing sucks
9/10 games I've been in know how to deal with Bastion now
Consider you or your team might be brain damaged if you can't by now
>>343216702
Junkrat really isn't that hard to deal with
Zarya is amazing though, holy shit. So fun to play.
>>343216894
Good luck getting any of those off without dying cause a proper hook/shot will kill you before you can
>>343216467
This Zarya dicks the hog.
>>343216894
You can't escape a Roadhog hook. If you hold down fire as you hook them, they can't escape as you shoot immediately while they're still stunned.
>>343215917
>The Widowmaker reaction is an even bigger kneejerk
Yeah, that's why I put more of an emphasis on how much the McCree nerf changed the meta. Widowmaker can still tear an entire team a new asshole, she just takes a little while longer to do it without the scope/unscope shit. I imagine Winston will rise up a little right with her.
>>343216880
Every single point you made is wrong.
>headshots exist
>if bastion stops shooting, Genji dashes, turns, kills
>objectively wrong
>objectively wrong
>>343216894
>dash
>not reflecting so he kills himself
I dont really have a problem with bastion being in the game, but im sure if he was never added no one would be going "Man, i really wish I could play a character that remained completely stationary right about now."
>>343217004
>>343217083
>being this wrong
I got the idea for all of these escapes from watching videos of people doing them and now I do them all myself. Constantly. The mei one in particular is common as fuck.
Git gud, stop sucking, etc
>>343217113
A good bastion kills genji.
>>343216740
If they have ping advantage, the hook doesn't do something stupid with inherited velocity, and they click on you correctly you'll take 200-300 damage, shield, then walk back to your team. More often than not pub shitters fuck up the timing by a fraction of a second (which is all the stun duration gives you) blast you in the face as the shield comes up giving you 50 charge, realize their mistake, then spaz out and die. It's very, very rare that you actually die to a hook unless you're already almost dead.
>>343217091
Maybe, the thing is that a if you play her perfectly Winston doesn't even really counter Widowmaker. 295 headshot as you're flying in, now you're just a 205 HP giant gorilla with a magic tickler. You can't really counter Widowmaker with Winston unless you use double Winston (which you can do with Blizzard's rules) but in OHL it's not possible.
>>343217113
>headshots
>>turret form
you've never played the game, huh?
>>343217225
About anon:
>he's just making stuff up so he has a reason to complain
>>343217318
>Watching videos
>Not from experience
Then you're fucking wrong
You won't escape from a Roadhog who has proper timing and shoots in the right spot
>>343217318
you're watching a bad roadhog that doesn't realize he can queue up his shot during the hook.
>>343216894
Wow you must be really skilled to be able to ignore the stun that is programmed onto the hook.
Or maybe you are a hacker and removed the stun when you play.
Or just maybe you are so shit that the roadhogs that hook you can't even hit their bullets even after you get dragged onto their screen.
Or maybe you just misunderstood my post. I said there is literally no counter play AFTER being hooked. Like how there were no counterplay to McCree after being flashed. At least after the McCree nerf you have time to wraith, wall, jump or whatever your abillities are after being flashed now.
>>343216702
>Junkrat does a lot of damage so he is overpowered
He's designed to prevent heroes from advancing in areas. Like every defense hero. That's what shitters don't understand, and why they bitch about balance. You can't play reaper every game, and you also can't expect to win a defense with 4 offense heroes against any team with 1 person with game sense.
>>343217373
So flat out wrong it's absolutely laughable
Are the people who complain about Bastion the same people who die to sentry guns non-stop?
>>343217318
>Watching videos and not from experience
The Twitch generation is a fucking stupid one
Mei is not overpowered but she is easily the least fun character to foght in the game. She is not bad by any means because she has the sigle most reliable kill confirm on the game outside of sniper headshots. Her ult also takes up entire points and she can contest in a regenitive and impervious state. She could definitely use tweaks so she isnt so insanely unfun to fight against.
>shoot her from a distance lmao
Not every map has that luxury and she still has a formidable ice shard shot.
>>343217405
the blue glowing bit in the back brah, that's his headbox for damage in turret form.
you're welcome.
>>343217519
t. only fought bad bastions
>>343217318
You're an idiot and wrong.
>>343217373
>water is dry and the sun is cold
About the same level of truth
>>343216880
>Tracer dies faster than you can imagine against him. Only her ult can fuck him up.
Stop running straight at him like a retard. Flank him, empty a whole mag before he turns around (and when he does, he'll be out of turret form, if he's doesn't, then use your E). When he turns around and tries to kill you, this gives your team a gap to push up or kill him. If he gets out of turret form to relocate, you kill him. By the time you do that shit, your ult should be around 30-50%.
I have yet to find a bastion that I can't kill with tracer.
>>343211867
Are you kidding? just get phara and peek shot him to death.
>>343217583
I literally said I do it all the time.
>being this illiterate
>>343217595
76 is pretty good at dealing with her. Just outside of her m1 range and he has way more DPS aiming at her head, which is big.
>>343216894
You can't really recall after hook for tracer. You can, however, predict the hook and press E right before you get hooked, and you'll recall right after he hooks you before he can even melee/shotgun.
>>343217717
You can even do it with S76 or, if you really want, double S76. Helix is literally just a Pharah rocket, so two of those is going to do 235 damage after armor. He either gets up to run away and dies because his hitbox doubles in profile while standing or you each shoot a burst and he dies anyway.
It blows my mind that no one knows how to peak shot turrets or immobile players with projectiles. It's so obvious.
>>343217423
Probably.
>>343217596
Oh yeah sure, let me just skidoodle on behind hi- and I'm dead.
>>343211867
The game would be much better without this piece of shit
>>343212781
log in
>start playing mercy
>don't die as fast as usual
>realize they buffed her health
Fuck yeah man
>>343218052
but they didn't
why are you telling lies
>>343217402
>you'll take 200-300 damage and walk back to your team
I don't know what shitters you play against but if a Roadhog does 200-300 damage to you and you pop your shield you're not walking home anyday soon unless that RH is a real retard.
I guess you turn around and kill him before 6 seconds pass then right? 900hp in 6 seconds as 0-50% zarya if he plays it right. I see. I guess I just haven't met whatever trenchhogs you meet every game, maybe you meant your team will help you now? But what if his team helps him?
>>343217595
>she can contest in a regenitive and impervious state
This. Fuck her ice block shit and fuck Reaper's ghost bullshit. If it technically pulls them out of combat you shouldn't be able to contest a point.
>>343217963
His Helix travels much faster than a Pharah rocket, it seems.
>>343217932
>I suggested using recall to escape hook
>anon argues with me while suggesting using recall to escape hook
Seriously it's getting pathetic now
>>343216501
>unrealistic as fuck
If you're this bad at the game, stop playing
LMAO TURRET MODE GORILLIAN DAMAGE, WILL JUST FUCKING CAMP IN CONVENIENT CORNERS LMAO, PUT WEAK SPOT AGAINST THE WALL AND FIX MYSELF DURING TURRET MODE LMAO + BIG MAC HUGE ARMOR LMAO, ONLY COUNTER THEY SAY IS A SHITTER HERO LMAO
>>343218307
>just don't get hooked
>just don't get shot
>just don't lose
Wow we got a real badass over here. The king of videogames. I am honored.
>>343216501
>asks for examples of ways to escape roadhog hook
>says "inb4 someone gives the proper answer"
Your defensive is the answer you fucking terrible overwatch player who moonlights as a massive faggot
>>343214815
I want him to be good, /v/
How do we make him good?
>>343212781
Pharah pops her E to scatter them. Bastion doesn't move in turret form, everyone else does. That gives the window to drop the Bastion.
Dva throws her ult toward them landing behind, making them have to scatter or die.
Reaper drops and ults onto them.
>>343218645
I'd like advice from someone who has played the game or at least can read. The sentence right after what you quoted should help you find peace, little one.
>>343218812
Bump his health up by 50 and give him faster movement. Other than that, there's not much else you can do outside of giving him some shift ability, which I doubt they'll do.
Holy shit ranked is FUCKING BAD
Why can these incompetent game developers NEVER manage to make a proper ranked mode?
You know there's something wrong when you get ALL gold medals in ALL placement matches, and still lose the game because of retarded players
I must've fallen 20-30 ranks or so just through losing so many placement matches
>>343218145
>maybe you meant your team will help you now?
This is what I mean, usually I just get healed. I mean, Zarya's a tank. Usually the support is watching your ass, and if there's a RH your team should be watching for hooks to support someone who is hooked. RH usually has to peak a choke point to hook someone in the first place, so the rest of your team can put pressure on him when he exposes himself so that he has to heal or back up instead of killing you.
Now, yeah, if I get hooked while completely alone, hit before shield, and no one else is around? I'm probably going to die. But that shouldn't happen - Zarya is all about playing with her team and RH is all about isolating people away from their team. RH should win 1v1s against other heroes because he's designed to. Don't be an idiot and play into that, basically. You don't have to fight him in a 1v1 - it's a team game for fuck's sake, that's the entire point. It's really easy to negate Roadhog's influence on a game just by sticking with your team and focusing him every time he pops out to do anything. Unlike other tanks he doesn't negate ult charge by diverting damage to him, so there's no reason to avoid fucking him up at every opportunity.
At the end of the day, hooking a Zarya is usually not what Roadhog wants to do, and he knows this. He's going to try to hook someone other than Zarya, but that's also not very good for him. Do this enough times and eventually he'll switch. Like, shit man, I've made MoonMoon switch off Roadhog on his stream before and that dude plays Streetpig like 95% of the time.
>>343218193
I used to think that but I'm not so sure anymore. I don't play Pharah much so I need to test it.
>>343216894
Lucio's push has gotten me out of so many Roadhog hooks.
>>343218812
By becoming Seagull.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdxRSVAvTBI
>>343219030
So pretty much never, then. Got it.
>>343219030
>e-celeb shit
No thank you, overwatch general has some kind of retard obsession with this guy, i don't want to hear about outside of there
>>343218980
>This is what I mean, usually I just get healed. I mean, Zarya's a tank
>Zarya runs around with a pocket healer at his mmr
I see. I'm sorry I didn't know about your situation.
>It's a "everyone presses Q at the same time" match
Epic "competitive" game
>>343214610
The problem is that even if they get "good" with hanzo, he is still significantly worse than if they had gotten good with something else.
>>343219030
>>343211867
Nah. He's too easy to kill.
Genji, Soldier 76, Pharah kill him instantly
>>343211867
i main bastion/reinH and the classes i have the most trouble against are widowmakers andgooddvas.
people think bastion can snipe, but not rly. at long/extreme ranges, i can put a bullet or too in a widowmaker, which is like 10-20 damage in the time it takes her to shoot me 2-3 times. at medium or short range the problem stops existing of course.
dvas arent usually a problem unless they are good at flanking and timing their defense matrix, in which case i obviously have to stop shooting and basically restart when she also starts, which usually results in a double ko between me and her mech thanks to the insane dmg that dva does at point blank to a fuckhueg hitbox like mine
>>343219226
He's a pro player that streams a lot, is one of the top individual players, and he's actually very jovial and friendly. It's no surprise he's become so popular. A lot of the pros just grumble and bitch and moan all the time, but Seagull keeps a positive attitude. That makes it a lot easier to watch.
>>343219286
I mean... that's not what I said? Does your Mercy just pocket S76 and Pharah all game long? Ours usually, like, pays attention and heals people that need healing as things change. Y'know, as one does.
That's not even the main point either. RH has to expose himself to hook. Everyone shoots him when he does this. RH can't do much about getting focus fired when every other tank can, and he's the easiest tank to hit with the largest and most stable head hitbox. He's got a solo DM kit in a team game. Play as a team when the enemy team picks him and the hooks aren't his main contribution, his damage against barriers is.
Honestly, I think the main reason he's used a lot these days is just because someone has to break Rein's barrier and it's not going to be McCree anymore. Like, he's not bad at all, but he's not this overpowered god that everyone seems to think he is.
>>343218307
Pro strats. Don't get hit, hit the enemy till they die. It's that easy.
>>343218113
Didnt she have 150 health before?
>>343218025
You watch your mouth
>>343219030
You mean that he becomes good if there are two tanks and also a mercy?
>>343220168
No? Why do you think everyone bitches about Zenyatta all the time? Hint: it's because he has 50+100 HP+Shields.
Mercy has always had 200 HP (that may as well be shields because she heals after she gets out of combat).
>>343220292
zenyatta should never be the sole healer, it's awful
>>343211867
>Expecting proper balance in a Blizzard game
You've played yourself OP.
>>343220378
Why is he on support anyway? he is literally all pure damage.
76 is more support than he is
>>343220329
>Hint: it's because he has 50+100 HP+Shields
Isn't it 50hp + 100 shield?
>>343220759
That's what I meant, forgot to say "respectively."
>>343220512
Pure damageSupport
That Discord Orb is for everyone, after all.
It's a shame the damn Discord symbol doesn't show up for everyone.
>>343219908
Point isn't that he is an over powered god. It's the fact that he has a kit that once you get hooked offer no counterplay at all. Just like old Mcree. McCree still has the ability to completely decimate everyone but Roadhog but he still isn't a character to be complained about anymore because now there is conterplay added to the mix. Everyone with a defensive can save themselves by simply holding their defensive. Which gives them a fighting chance while McCree still has the upper hand from either the damage he inflicted before his opponent used his defensive or the fact that he forced them to use it. This is why Flash+Fan isn't a problem anymore. The hook AFTER being hooked offer no counter play for most of the characters. Not saying that he is OP as fuck. But he is completely anti-fun and in my opinion share many of the problems Pre-nerf McCree did. You have to have almost 300 hp to have a chance at counterplay after being hooked.
The keyword is -After you have already been hooked- I am aware that you can negate it by predicting it but then comes my second point. 6 seconds is insane and many battles against this effective 900hp fatass lasts longer than that unless he is completely unresponsive.
>>343211867
weird pic of zarya OP
>>343220951
Yeah, all they see is the purple ball above their head. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing his Harmony/Discord orbs move at a faster speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxO8AqZcekk
>>343211867
>Last competitive match, playing Mercy.
>We lose the first round on defense and our Bastion starts having his autistic fit because Reinhardt didn't shield him the whole match and was doing his job trying to block all corners.
>Tell Bastion maybe he should switch because we are not interested in devoting half our team to protecting him, especially when the other team has a pretty good Reaper that has managed to stomp Bastion in every fight.
>STFU! WE WOULD HAVE WON THAT ROUND IF YOU JUST BOOSTED ME AND REINHARDT HAD OD SHIELDED ME!
>"Bastion we are not interested in helping with your k/d ratio and helping you get play of the game. Pick another hero that fits our comp better."
>He proceeds to play Bastion for the whole match, attack, defense, getting stomped my Reaper the whole time.
>We only won cause the other team was going against 5v6.
Are Bastion players truly the worst people in the Overwatch community?
>>343216005
>as Pharah
Move as you see the next telegraphed rocket
>as Genji
Ignore deflection since he is harmless while using it
>as Tracer
The only valid response
>as Widow
Do it long range or you're dead
>as Soldier
Not enough range
git gud faggot
>>343221232
>I'm going to salt the earth with their tears.
>>343221069
Honestly, I don't even think flash+fan was McCree's main problem. It was just how much damage fan actually did - you only had to hit 3/6 shots to kill a 200 HP character, and 6/6 shots threatens to kill tanks. Now that it's been nerfed most people don't even use fan at all now except to spam barriers at long range (fun fact: it has no damage falloff anymore because it was reduced to his minimum falloff damage of 45, so if you're spamming a rectangle at falloff ranges you may as well right click it).
If someone catches you with the thing that's supposed to kill flankers when they catch you... well, you got caught out, and now you get punished. Or you switch characters to someone that outranges him, like Pharah, 76, Widow or Junkrat. You can even bait the hook and then dodge or use an ability that blocks it if you're inside their head enough, although this can be risky if you don't have decent ping.
So yeah, dying in a stun isn't fun, I'll give you that. But that's the game we've got. Avoid getting stunned and cover your friends so that at worst it's a one-for-one trade. Yes, his hook is crazy long, and just like everyone else I've had moments where I had no fucking idea how the hell I got hooked from what seemed like half a map away, but usually it comes down to mistaken perceptions of where my team and their team were positioned at the time.
By the same metric people that play RH a lot are just as often bitching about hooks then hit, bounce around a corner and then get stuck, or get hooked and then fly behind him, because if a player is moving in the air in the time that the hook hits him but before he stops moving they inherit their in-air velocity and can do some really weird shit. Goes both ways.
>>343221232
literally every low mmr match ever
>>343216501
D. Va can safely take his shotgun close range while destroying him in close range.
It's like, "hey, thanks hooking me"
>>343222214
Personally, I'd much rather have a low MMR than a higher one. At higher ranks people just take it too seriously and aren't as laid back. They also complain to high hell and pretty much sabotage games for the team just because you would be playing something they just don't like.
>>343221232
>You can put lipstick on a pig but you can't beat Bastion.
>>343212176
I've played Overwatch on and off since release so I don't understand what is so bad about Hanzo. Can't decent bow aim let you do a shitload of damage?
>>343221812
While that Bastion was a dick, he wasn't wrong either. If you get a team defending a bastion even partially well, he can stomp all over the enemy team single handedly.
>>343222891
A lot of Hanzos don't aim. They just spam an area and hope for headshots. Which, as you can imagine, leaves them pretty useless for most of the match.
>>343223256
I know that. But we were not interested in doing that considering the map we were on and our team comp.
>>343213408
>Roadhog is OP!
>Mei is OP!
how to spot a complete scrub
