AMD IS BACK
- Home
- Board: /v/ - Video Games
- Reading: AMD IS BACK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTku-GqDSWg
When it comes to price/performance, the RX480 (8GB) can't be beat at $199 USD.
Benchmarks are coming out now.
>>343187248
>>343187445
Yes, it's disappointing. We know already.
>>343187248
>>343187445
>>343188413
>cant even get 60fps on a fucking I7 7600K
HGAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHHAHAH AHAH AHAAAAHGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA LOL
>>343187248
>>343187445
wtf i hate amd now
>>343187248
i want something that i can buy a second of in 5 years and run them both together and actually have good performance on pretty much all games that need it, and crossfire is shit
Remember when it was supposed to match the 1070 after OC?
>>343187248
So better than 970 and 390 but worse than 390x and 980?
Arent the benchmarks confirming what we all knew?
For 200 bucks its a good deal.
if you want price/performance buy a console
>>343188630
Why? For as little as 500 bucks you can make a pc that rapes a ps4.
>>343188738
sure
>>343187248
Yeah, stuck back in the path, its on par with a 970 while the 1070 is on par with a Titan X for half the price.
AMD is a laughing stock.
>>343187248
>RX480 (8GB) can't be beat at $199 USD
Except it's not $199.
>>343188738
enjoy getting raped by people with better internal response times, enjoy not playing anything higher than 1080p all mediums, enjoy your blue screens kiddo.
>>343188797
Titan X isn't a gaming card, numbnuts. being on par with the titan X isn't a feat.
>>343188738
>for double the price of a ps4 you can build a pc that rapes ps4
>>343188630
>console
>price/performance
>>343188625
Nvidia shills don't care. That's why they're shills, no point in arguing with them. They're probably the ones who posted fake benchmarks to overhype it to something it wasn't supposed to be.
Take your hardware threads to /g/ We don't need your shit here
>>343187248
>can't be beat
>beat
>>343189001
$250 with a game thinks its bad deal when pc built for that price cant do the same
I HAVE A //= WITH ONLY " GB SHOULD I UPGRADE SOON
>>343188797
>1070 with custom cooler
>vs titan x with only the stock cooler
>i-it's a-almost as fast a GTX 970!
You did it AMD. Congratulations, and welcome to modern last gen performance!
I'm just so proud of them. The process shrink has just made such a difference.
WHAT HAPPEN GUYS
this was the day we were meant to counterattack and kill the nvidia
Shit's pretty much sold out online and my local Fry's hasn't even gotten it in yet.
Does Best Buy get this kind of shit too?
>slower than 970
>costs the same in europe
amd is finally finished
I don't think any of us 100 years ago could ever have predicted AMD would actually pull it off. They're back baby!
Tell me why I should buy a 480 instead of a 970.
>>343189489
Maybe but it would be reference garbage. Just wait.
amd wins
>>343189692
The RX 480 just completely slaughters the 970 on some benchmarks, just look at this massacre! And with AMD, you know the drivers and support will be second-to-none.
>>343189489
>frys
where do you live anon
>>343189692
make your own fucking decisions
>>343188926
>blue screens
>multiplayer anything
>demanding 4k meme on a budget card
Are nvidiot shills that desperate? Of course a budget card is for 1080.
>>343189927
Fuck off retard
>>343189920
Austin Texas friend.
I've got the rest of the week off, so if I'm going to get it I'd rather just buy it in person.
>>343189875
The extra noise is also a big advantage for Team AMD, it'll help drown out any fighting cats nearby or when your parents come down to ask when you're getting a job, dramatically improving your gaming experience.
>With Tom's Hardware reporting that the RX 480 draws (substantailly) more than the 75W allowed from the motherboard (for example, the PCI Express high-power card spec allows a mazimum of 66W to be drawn from the 12V pins of the PCI Express slot, and the RX 480 averages 79W from the 12V lines alone) AMD seems to be violating the PCI Express(R) spec. Of course, I'd love to see HardOCP try to duplicate Tom's results.
>According to the licensing contract for the spec, if they do not fix this within 3 months, AMD will NOT be able to call the card a PCI Express card. If they do, they face not only litigation, but if my understanding is correct an action before the U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) to ban the importation of the card as counterfeit goods. You might think the PCI-SIG will give AMD a pass, but if they do, they risk loosing the trademark entirely. An unforced trademark gets invalidated. The SIG won't let that happen.
>So what does this mean to the consumer? I think there are two possibilities, if we assume AMD will not choose to remove the PCI Express logos from these cards: Either they will alter the boards to have an 8-pin socket and to pull more power from there, or they will neuter the card to ensure it doesn't draw more power than the PCI Express specification allows. I don't see any other options.
>>343188779
>>343188926
>build PC for around 500 burgerbucks
>can still play nearly all games at 60 fps
>shitpost in epeen comparing amd/nivdia threads because retards have to waste 1K+ to stroke their egos in speccy threads
D-do you guys t-think Nvidia still has any hope? I've always liked them but now I'm scared, bankruptcy seems so close.
>>343188614
And yet 2x480 beat a 1070 while costing 200$ less
Can you build a computer around the GTX 1070 for less than $1000 or should I just settle with this?
>>343187248
>>343187445
>1080p
>Not even close to 60fps
>>343190551
>thinks multi-gpu is a straight improvement over a single stronger one
You don't have to pretend consolefriend, we know you haven't done much PC gaming yet or built your own system. We're glad you care though!
>>343189856
>Make a GPU that costs $50 and runs games with barely 20fps
>Performance per dollar is great it's best card ever!
See how stupid you are?
Show men an Nvidia card that costs $199 is as fast as OC 970 has 8GB of VRAM and full support of DX12.
Oh wait you cant.
Guess amd wins again...
Jesus fucking Christ I'm so tired of Nvidia and AMD fags fighting over this
Can someone just tell me if I should upgrade to the new AMD card when it comes out or just get the most recent Nvidia card
>>343188738
I hate people that try to persuade others to build a $500 "console - killer". At that price range the PC is shit, not even close to midrange. The games that come out aren't equally optimized so the comparison/argument is stupid.
>>343191073
Depends on your current config and amount of money you are willing to put into this
>>343191073
Depends on what you have right now.
>>343190570
Settle with this. 1070's are "daddy's money"-tier.
>>343190570
>>343191271
Or he can just wait for the 1060...
>>343191314
What if the rumour ends up being true and the 1060 only has 3 fucking VRAM? That'd suck.
>>343191073
How much money you wanna spend?
200ish: Get the 480
400ish: Get the 1070
just fuck my wallet up: get the 1080
>>343190570
I would say wait for GTX 1060 or 490 for to get a good $300-$350 card, assuming you live in the US
>>343191370
There is a 3 and 6GB version of those rumors yo uare saying are true
>>343191073
NVIDIA cards have several advantages that you may or may not find important. They run cooler, they use less electricity and they have CUDA cores. The first two prevent your room from becoming a sweltering shit hole and driving up your electricity cost on two fronts. The CUDA cores can be used to speed up 3D rendering if you wanted to get involved in the whole 3D rendering scene.
>>343191370
3 or 6
>>343191073
>Can someone just tell me if I should upgrade to the new AMD card when it comes out or just get the most recent Nvidia card
Here you go anon:
Odd: Get Nvidia
Even: Get AMD
https://www.random.org/integers/?num=1&min=1&max=10&col=1&base=10&format=html&rnd=new
>/v/ creams itself over GTX 970
>AMD delivers the same level of performance for 130 less usd
>waah it's bad
Holy shit you guys are stupid. It's meant for people who didn't upgrade in a long time and want to stick with 1080p 60fps.
>>343188926
>Titan X isn't a gaming card
It sure as fuck isn't a workstation card, thats for sure.
>>343188486
>>343188413
>>343188527
>>343188797
>>343189347
>>343189480
>>343189486
>>343189614
>>343189875
>>343190173
Hey guys what's that 200$ or less nVidia card that beats the 480 called again? I can't seem to remember.
>>343187248
Is this the new AMD strategy of leading from the Bankruptcy court?
>>343191231
>>343191252
I got an AMD A6-5200 (I think) and like 8 gigs of RAM
Pretty outdated. I just wanna be able to play Escape from Tarkov whenever it comes out, man
>>343187248
But why would i need a new graphics card when
UNLIMITED GRAPHICS is coming out soon?
How is AMD even still in business? This is embarrassing.
>>343191506
>/v/ creams itself over GTX 970
Yeah, when it came out 2 years ago, before the 3.5 fiasco and before the 390
My 770 is still fine right? I'm not sure if it's time yet.
>>343191073
Also depends on where you live too
Pricing is pretty fair in the USA, costing significantly less than a 970
I dont live in Europe, but it seems like AMD messed up the pricing there because apparantly the 480 actually costs more than a 970 there. Might have something to do with the Euro/Pound getting killed in value, but idk, might just be a messup on AMD's part
>>343191521
I don't think it will actually be 200$. If nvidia goes for the 250-300$ 1060 GTX it could very likely beat it with the price performance
>>343191506
>Le its perfectly fine for 1080p 60
You buy this you are set for 2 maybe 3 years in 1080p.
You buy a 1070 you are set for fucking life on full HD
>>343191521
It's called not being a poorfag.
Also my meme card cost 100$ more in October 2014. I think the 100$ for enjoying the 480 level performance for the past two years was worth it.
not vidya
>>>/g/
>>343189576
Basically this
Pack it up
>>343191521
>$200 or less
Hey what's that artificial condition AMDfags have to use to in order to justify their shitty cards called again?
>>343191521
970s are nearly $200
GUYS GUYS......i went ahead and bought one.......testing shit out now
>>343191546
I would say go for 480 if you don't plan on upgrading the CPU
Also it's a laptop processor, how did you even manage to get it
>>343191810
holy SHIT you madman post some shit in this thread then
>>343191637
I don't know you dumb nigger, you tell me. You own the fucking card retard, play some fucking games with it. Do you think it's fucking fine? Do you like the performance you've been getting in recent games? If not than sure upgrade it you fucking cock wrangler. Otherwise hold onto it fuckboy.
>>343190312
[citation needed]
seriously is /v/ this poor?
I get this card is interesting for people who play LoL or BF/CoD now and then.
But for "core" gaming?
>>343191637
Pretty much. I have a GTX 670 and still don't really want to upgrade.
>>343191675
Well the 960 didn't beat the 285, and the 480 is way better at price/perf so I doubt we'll see that this year.
>>343191687
>if I pay more I get better
Wow, yeah, fuck AMD.
>>343191735
>no counter-points
>resorts to generic meme insults
>>343191739
Yes nearly, and yet only the OC editions which aren't nearly 200$ actually beat the 480.
>>343191865
Giving witcher 3 ago first. Will post some shit. Coming from a r7 370 so big ass upgrade for me.
>>343191739
But they perform worse and choke on games that need more VRAM which is most new released games
>>343191868
don't bully me!
>>343191739
Maybe used ones on ebay. The retailers in my area are still selling 300 dollar new and 270 dollars for a used/open box
>>343191924
>I have a GTX 670 and still don't really want to upgrade.
Maybe you should try playing more modern games
>>343191924
>if I pay more I get better
A 100$ discount in two years is mindblowing how?
>>343191930
I'm curious on this game at 1080p. If this card can't run 60fps on every game for the next few years on at least high maybe I'd be better going overkill on
a 1070?
>>343191739
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600536049&IsNodeId=1&Description=gtx%20970&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=30
Can't find a single one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601203818&Tpk=rx%20480&ignorear=1
>$239
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You can buy a 970 for that already! This is what people were waiting for? A 970 with more RAM? No one is going to be using one of these at a resolution where all that RAM matters.
What a waste of money.
>>343192196
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Is this one fucking person?
I swear on /g/ and here there is one retards spamming this fucking HAHA
>>343192319
Nope! There's just enough of us that aren't retarded to have bought into any of this AMD bullshit. Sorry, friend!
>>343192319
yeah, welcome to 4 chan, if you saw something similar, it's from the same neetkun
>exceeds the GTX 980 according to marketing
>benchmarks come out
>literally only outperforms the 980 in Fire Strike and Ashes of Singularity, a benchmark and a game people only play to see how their rigs handle DX12
Congrats on achieving 970 tier performance and power efficiency AMD, only took 2 years.
>>343192152
GTA V runs at around 50FPS, dips to 30 in explosions like once. Skyrim with a fuckton of mods runs at nearly constant 60. I believe if I tried Witcher 3 my PC would shit itself, but I can count by the fingers of my hand the games that are unplayable on a GTX 670.
>>343192156
I don't understand your point, it seems like you're contradicting yourself. You can find OC versions of the 970 that beat the 480, yet those cost more - not mindblowing to assume a considerably more expensive card beats it, is it?
>>343192170
Well i just tried it on 1080p. I upscaled it to that. Since i run at 1600x900. I'm hitting 55-60FPS on Ultra, with AA on. HBAO+. Only have DOF and Motion Blur off cause i hate that shit. So far so good.
GPUz. I should probably restart after having installed drivers. But fuck it ill do it later.
>>343192319
using haha dethroned lol on facebook
it will replace top kek here soon too
>>343192196
3.5gb vs 8gb
The answer is clear, mr shill
I say this as a 970 owner
>>343192389
>>exceeds the GTX 980 according to marketing
When did AMD ever say this?
>>343191739
nvidrones on suicide watch, they always say 970, nigga its $50 more
DRIVERS
R
I
V
E
R
S
>>343189614
>>343189480
>>343189347
>>343189875
>playing at 1440p
lel thats some gay ass shit
>>343192485
Who gives a fuck? It's a card that you could've had since 2014, minus the RAM.
I say this as someone who doesn't tie myself down to a single GPU manufacturer. Get the fuck out of here.
>>343192416
>I don't understand your point
Obviously.
I bought my 970 G1 for 396$ two years ago.
AMD is now offering me virtually the same performance for 308$. Those prices are direct conversions from our currency.
So a 88$ discount on performance I had for the last two year doesn't seem particularly exciting.
>Card does exactly what it was advertized to do
>Woooooow, AMD is terrible, it doesn't even fit my headcanon where the 480 was meant to beat the 980!
>>343192485
Honestly though, you're better off buying the 4GB version @ $200. The 8GB version is absolutely worthless and only exists to fleece people who buy into the VRAM/Higher numbers marketing as it doesn't help with performance at all at higher resolutions >>343189614
A card that performs that bad has no use for VRAM that high.
>>343192624
>970
As a 290x owner i've had that level of performace since 2013. These days my 290x now fights a 980.
What you have to realize is that a lot of people have the 970. It being the #1 card on Steam for example.
And a lot of the AMD fans are sitting on the 290(X) or Fury series
There is literally no reason at all to buy a 480 when they have one of the mentioned cards above. Even older cards like 960, 770 is not even worth the upgrade.
If people want something new and refreshing there is literally only the 1070 and 1080 available right now.
The 480 is at best a card for people that does not already have a computer like console players.
>>343192624
>Who gives a fuck?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm5ZCJah-FY
>>343192663
it's not about amd, it's about baiting other fishers
>>343192782
i have a 280x. should i upgrade?
>>343192468
>12_0
Well, that's disappointing.
>>343192785
Bad game to test, and I say this as a AMD owner. There is a problem that DICE hasn't patched involving Hyper level shadows on nVidia cards. I'm kinda mad, because it's shit like this that just shows there's no clear winner, since every benchmark is skewed in favor of one way or the other.
>"It's shit"
>"Yeah but it's CHEAP shit"
>>343192782
What about cards like the 960 and the 750TI? Those are the most used cards behind the 970
Would a 480 be worth the upgrade assuming they are going to be playing 1080p?
>>343192782
Roughly 85% of the market has a card around as fast as a 960 or slower. For these peopel a 480 is a good upgrade.
>>343192974
Nobody supports every feature of DX12 - in fact Intel has higher support for certain things than both AMD and Nvidia.
>>343192782
>Have 760
>Practically every game I want to play has stuttering at some point.
>Drives me insane.
So do I need windows 10 for a dx12 card? If so that might be a deal-breaker.
>>343192782
nah it's the perfect upgrade from poorfagcard aka 70ti
>>343192785
Same issue as AMD's flagship, the Fury X, because it only has 4GB of VRAM.
Defend this, AMD drones.
>>343193125
You need W10 for DX12 modes, but if the games ahs a DX11 renderer you're fine.
>>343192416
I run 670
Arma 3 runs like shit on most settings
Warhammer Vermintide is on 40-50 fps regardless of settings
Cities:Skylines dip into 20 fps after 6 thousand citizens
XCOM 2 is in the 40-50 territory even on lowish settings
Siege is only playable on lows
Doom 4 doesn't even run at 60 on minimalsBattleborn also ran like shit during beta
Most UE4 games don't run good, unless on med/low. Some don't run 60 even with lows
Tomb Raider is unplayable
Dark Souls dips into 50 sometimes, regardless of settings
Latest Total War games also run and look like shit
Far Cry 4 is on 50 fps max regardless of settings
CoH 2 can dip to 40 on 3 or more players with mid/lows
I can go on, but you get the gist. Some of them are badly optimized, some are more CPU bound, but having a better GPU would at least get me 60 fps on settings I run now. Most of those games are not even that modern.
>>343193125
DX12 is windows 10 only because thats how MS rolls.
>>343187248
Or is it? 970 performance for maybe $40 less? Whoa, hold yer horses, m8, that will really show nvidia cucks.
It maybe it's half the price of 1070 but it's also only half the fucking performance, how could they fail so hard?
>>343193150
>$800 AMD card can't run Mirror's Edge on hyper settings
L M F A O
>>343193109
I know, but it's a new card, good reason to implement a few things. Less cards support it, less chances we will see it implemented anywhere outside of GameWorks titles
>>343193039
So every car ever is shit because it is not a Lambo or a Ferarri?
>>343193039
>970 / 390 performance is now considered shit
>>343193125
You don't need W10 for a DX12 card
You only need it for DX12 itself
>>343193243
need gwaphix for a running simulator zozzle
>>343193295
If you're not the best then you can fuck off like the rest.
>>343192661
But how is this bad? If they were charging the same or just a little less I'd get it, but offering slightly better (the 480 does beat the reference 970 in everything I've seen, even Gameworks stuff, and beats a 980 in DX12 titles) performance for almost 100$ less and with better efficiency is bad? What did you expect?
>mfw waiting for aftermarket 4gb card and have to read all this shitflinging and shitposting
I know I'm poor just let me wait for it
>buying reference
>>343193109
>Roughly 85% of the market has a card around as fast as a 960 or slower.
Nigga roughly 85% of the market runs integrated graphics.
>>343193246
For what its worth 12_1 exists mostly to overcome Nvidia's shortcomings.
>>343187248
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01H3P9CKI
$375 - only offer on Amazon, ahahahahaha
>>343192782
This post makes too much sense. I think you are in the wrong thread
>>343193251
well if you're into cars, you care about the qualities of them. thing is cars can have qualities apart from pure speed.
GPUs only have speed, so yes, it's shit unless it's fast
>AMD is back !!!
>... back to 2014
It's funny AMD fanboys wonder why the majority buy Nvidia. RX480 has same power consumption as 1080. How is that even fucking possible?
>>343193413
just close your eyes nigga
or walk away from the screenor just fuck close the thread
>>343193543
no it doesn't, it's a separate feature level(several feature bundled together) that may allow for for some interesting stuff.
nVidia weakness is binding tiers and "async", 12_1 has nothing to do with it
>>343187248
>all these graffix fags argueing whose color is superior
Come on guys, its not about red or green its about destroying console performance with a 200 dollar card.
I have a 1GB GTX 650, so whether I wait for the 1060 or a better RX 480, it's win-win from here on out.Lucky I didn't get the 970.
>>343193724
I think the choice between 1060 and 480 will depend on how they fare on DX12 and Vulkan.
>>343193672
eh I got nothing better to do at 2am except save cute anime girls and read shitposting.
>>343188413
>highest performance/price on the market
>disappointing
about 50% more fps per dollar compared to a 1070
>>343193724
>win-win
until you realize almost all new games are shit :^)
I got a Radeon 7990, should I upgrade to the 1070?
>>343187248
$200? Not quite.
Add:
$370 for an air conditioner (since that AMD will increase your room's temperature by a lot)
$50.000+ for possible housefires that will burn your entire property
A monthly $50 for the Internet connection you need to seek the drivers for that bad card
Monthly $80 for psychological support that you'll need when you get bullied for using AMD
an extra $3 per month because AMD consumes more electrical power since it is so non-efficient
In the end you are spending like around 51.000 on that card, congratulations.
>>343193786
I'm happy to wait it out and see how they stack up, the shitposting makes for quality entertainment in the meantime.
>>343193894
There's always at least one that makes it all worth it.
>>343193593
>RX480 has same power consumption as 1080
You know that's a blatant lie, right?
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_r9_rx_480_8gb_review,5.html
>>343193983
well memed. I give it a 3.5/8
Bought 8gb version this morning to replace my pretty dated 660ti.
Benchmarks all look fine to me. It can play all the games I can enjoy at max and didn't break the bank.
Which is exactly what I was looking for.
>>343193983
xD upboat
>>343193983
wtf i hate amd now
>>343193593
>Own a card thats pre-2014
>Can finally play games at 1080p and get 60fps to boot!
This card was never marketed toward enthusiasts who spend 600 dollery doos on a new card ever year or so. I think it falls right where it needed, the people that have dated cards that don't want to wait another two years for price drops on cards that can already do 1080p60.
>>343194015
Oh sorry, its less than 20 watts difference and does take more than the 1070.
Leave GPU-kino to me.
>>343193189
4570k + evga gtx 670
this guy is full of shit
the only games i've ever had fps issues with was dolphin pre 5.0
by the way, everyone, download the new 5.0
i cannot believe i'm getting 60 fps @ 4k with 8xSMAA on this old hag, but she is pulling through and the results speak for themselves
>>343194219
Yes, you lied, we know. Moving on now.
>>343193687
yeah if only it were superior in any other way. even controller supported games need you to get up and use your mouse to click okay on dialogs and separate configuration programs dont work with controllers either (sonic generations comes to mind). boy i sure do love installing fan patches just to play dark souls with a camera resolution higher than 240p or having four separate software clients just to play all my videogames. sure while pc has multimonitor support its broken, every other game opens only on monitor 0 so you need to turn it off anyways. and once you do the game cant find monitor 0 so refuses to start because settings dont match or some shit (also sonic generations for an example). seems like not even singleplayer games are designed to allow you to get comfortable at all. always have to sit in an uncomfortable office chair and wait until you get into a game before you can even lay back down for fucks sake
I hear people saying we can't notice the difference between 30 and 60 fps.
But when I'm playing WoW I can notice the difference between 120 fps vs 60 fps or under
>>343194260
what the fuck happened to my picture? it looks like it went from 32 to 24 bit? the colours are all messed up?
im comparing it to the emulator?
let me try in full screen
>THIS CARD IS GOING TO CHANGE EVERYTHING
>It doesn't
>It turns out to be a dud
>>343194329
just do it faggot who gives a shit
>>343194329
It depends on what resolutions and framerates you're going for. GTX 1070 is built for 1440p or 144hz gaming. If you have a monitor like that then go for it. If you're playing at 1080p 60fps, then the 1070 is overkill.
How much does it cost for you fellow eurocucks? Seems to be about 300€ here which is exactly same as 970.
is an i5 4690k unclocked fine for the 480x?
>>343194338
>hurrr steam big picture doesnt exist
It alleviates 95% of the problems you mentioned. Only outliers that are old as fuck dont work with it and really you shouldnt be using a controller with those to begin with.
>his console cant play games from 2002 or earlier without re-buying them
>>343194423
whatever i do, whenever i save the picture in paint, the image quality reduces by TONS
the colours are so fucking BAD
its so much softer in the emulator? what is this?
some how this card runs meme ark at 40-50frames on the high preset and 60fps when it rains.....interdasting....
>AMD caught up to the 970
>AMD fags are classing this as a victory
Literally how?
>>343189239
>pay to play online
you console cucks can never argue around that
>>343194260
>i cannot believe i'm getting 60 fps @ 4k with 8xSMAA on this old hag
1920x1080 screenshot
30 fps
kek. Enjoy lying about your 60fps at 4k you nvidia shill.
>>343194714
>its so much softer in the emulator
what do you even mean? do you mean warmer colors? If so you might be using flux
>>343194727
It's not "catching up", the R9 390 was already the same price as the GTX 970 but performed the same as or better in every game.
>>343194691
of course it is, RX480 is a 2014 card. If your CPU is 2014 you'll be fine
I've always used Nvidia and unlike all the faggots that shill products on /g/ I have to say that the 480 looks good but as a 970 owner I see no reason to buy this.
price in 'straya, cunt.
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/35886/msi-radeon-rx-480-8gb
What I have price/perf is better on the 480 but not by much.
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/29086/msi-geforce-gtx-970-gaming-4gb
>>343194696
IM TALKING ABOUT WITH BIG PICTURE MODE YOU LYING FUCKFACE
>>343193574
In what ways is a Subaru/Nissan/whatever the fuck inferior to a Lamborghini?
>>343194727
>>AMD caught up to the 970
You act as if AMD didn't already beat the 970 back when they had the 390.
>>343194691
the 4690 is fine for basically everything. it's still a really powerful cpu for gaming.
>>343188853
The 4 GB version is.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202222
>>343194818
>what is internal resolution
Hey buddy you just blow in from stupid town?
>>343194678
300 for reference
330 for the XFX
>>343192503
I'd pay fifty dollars more for drivers and software that isn't absolute shit.
>>343194908
It automagically switches default monitorsso games open on the correct screen. It has a keyboard so you can still input text when needed. All you need is a mouse for that 5%
>>343192152
>playing modern games
>when everything worth playing stopped coming out 3-4 years ago
How are you enjoying the Division, CoD, etc?
>>343194862
>>343194930
>performed the same as or better in every game.
>didn't already beat the 970 back when they had the 390.
>>343194727
Because "muh price to dollar amount"
They think it's cool that a GTX 970 that is two years old can be equaled by a brand new card that is 80 bucks cheaper because now the 970 is price reduced due to 1070
>mfw asus 970 with a decent cooler is $240 on newegg
>>343195035
Have you been living under a rock during the entire past generation of cards?
>>343194946
You're not fooling anyone. Get a 4k monitor with 4k resolution, then come back and argue about 4k. Otherwise, you're just in 1080p.
>>343194714
no the colours in the emulator just look a ton more natural, its probably hard for you to see but the other pictures have such a heavy GREEEEEN tint, its awful
the emulator is a lot warmer and softer in between the colours
i just checked the properties of my pictures, they really ARE 24 bit!
im downloading something called 7capture, i hope this helps
serious question, why the hell are people still using 1080p monitor in the year 2016? you guys realize that 1440p monitor is the new standard?
>>343192483
Truly, it is the audible laugh term that neets love most.
>>343194678
~300eur (330usd) here in Czech Republic if converted from our monopoly money
exact same price as 970
>>343195128
Not even the same guy anon, but downsampling exists and has been popularized on /v/ ever since shank souls 1
>>343195169
Budget.
>>343195035
390 beats the 970 in like 90% of all games. You must be a fool to ignore all the evidence.
>>343195169
It's not the new standard though, at all. If you look at steam hardware survey, only like 2-3% of people are playing at resolutions higher than 1080p. It's a niche market for niche memers.
No one wants to spend $400 on a graphics card and another $400 on a new monitor just so they can play console ports (which were designed to run on $200 hardware) at 1440p.
>>343195157
use IrfanView or download Photosop portable.
Or you're using the incorrect color profile.
>>343195169
Because 4k will wipe floor with 1440p soon.
>>343195169
>1440p monitor is the new standard
But it's not.
1080p is until something happens to 4k.
>>343194727
Because they are deluded fucking Drones.
Couple days back they were claiming 1080 performance and beating the 980 easy mode.
Now they eat shit from the floor and can`t get over themselves because it comes close to 970 performance.
In EU and UK the prices are way to fucking high and not worth it. But overall at 14nm and current gpus on the market its is a fucking joke and shouldve been way better as they claimed.
1060 will literally destroy it at the same competitive price.
>>343195169
>tfw using a 720p/1080i tv from 2006 for all my gaming
>>343191739
The 970 is indeed interesting for the current 260€ price point. But what are the benefits?
> nvidia logo
> physx
> 2014-2015 games are optimized for it
what are the drawbacks?
> 3.5gb vs 8gb
> crippled dx12 support
> nvidias eol cards don't receive performance updates
If you enjoy playing past gen games, go for it. But it's most likely that the gpu will suffer a horrible death.
>>343195242
Only retards believe they are playing in 4k when they have a 1080p screens. It's a placebo effect for retards who don't have actual 4k equipment. These people are idiots that pretend to be elites.
>>343191521
The 1060
>>343187248
The division is a CPU based game though :/
>>343195435
Dropped your glasses?
>This will be the mainstream king.
>Until July 7th when Nvidia releases the 1060.
>>343195516
>The division is a CPU based game though
Then why don't you play it with just a Intel processor and no GPU.You're a fucking idiot.
>>343195435
>look i posted again
I know this is my own fault but I'll bite one last time. Downsampling to achieve a higher IR is a great way to make edges and textures more crisp. It costs as much hardware as true 4k. Theres no difference in compute power required, only the image seen buy your eyes depending on the monitor/tv.
>using AA in 2016
>>343195432
> crippled dx12 support
> implying a sane person would run win 10
Don't do this to yourself anon
>>343195581
Enjoy your placebo "4k" you dumb poorfag.
>>343195668
I run Linux full-time and Windows 10 for gaming, what's wrong with this?
>>343195668
> using unironically w7
install gentoo
>>343195169
Most people still use 1080p monitors. 1440 and 2160/4k are far from standard use.
Also, it seems like 4k will eventually become the new standard due to how hard manufacturers are pushing 4k rather than 1440
>>343195725
What is this toaster? AMD CPU? DDR3? Samsung 830?
Holy shit are you from 2010????
>>343195753
boogeymans
>>343195725
>i spent money so i must be right
>>343195816
>A cheap $200 heater that plays games
I'll take 4
I like living on the sun
>>343195169
Because I have a decent IPS monitor
So my only option is getting a 1440p IPS monitor which is a bit expensive
>>343195783
w7 is only option for gaming atm .. also for photo editing / music production . I'd like to see anyone outside from /tech/ using linux.. you know the people who value their other hobbies too.
>>343195783
>he fellf or the win10 meme and the RX480
holy shit kill yourself
>>343195615
The 1060 might fill the spot for 300-350€ and be in competition with the rx 490. If not they'd need a 1065 to fill the gap.
>>343195816
Most games will never even reach that temperature since the wattage the card uses is so low. It only goes that high in torture tests.
Should I just buy a 960 or wait for a non reference 480?
I mostly would want to try out games but I will end up not even play like a good chunk of those. To be honest I don't play even those who I like that frequently, unless the game is really good.
So I don't really want to spend more than 200 eurodollars on a GPU considering that I'm more interested in trying out games, and I often find myself not giving a shit about them anymore.
>>343196124
Wait for 1060 and see how it compares to 480, then get the better card.
>>343195860
Don't get me wrong, Windows 10 is bad, that's why I keep it where it belongs: as a purely gaming OS.
>linux lets me remove my fucking kernel if I so wish
>windows won't let me disable updates
>>343194818
im the poster youre replying to
4k internal resolution, 8x smaa
"VPS represents the amount of frame render requests the emulated CPU sends to the emulated GPU in Dolphin. FPS represents the amount of frames that are actually rendered."
60 frames are called for per second, however only 30 are displayed
same thing that dsfix did
i can turn and twist a few knobs and actually have it output 60 fps (or more), but that would cause glitching, not to mention the game would run at twice or quadruple speed.
>>343195169
>serious question, why the hell are people still using 1080p monitor in the year 2016?
Because I have 2x high quality 1920x1200 screens, and that's still good enough until the REAL upgrade happens, which to me is 5k. I want 2560x1600 HiDPI (so 5120x3200 true), at least true 10-bit (preferably 12-bit) color, and preferably 90 Hz. All the tech for that is getting very, very close to coming together at long, long last, it'll only be another year or two given that we've already got 5K displays shipping in multiple places, the color is being pushed by UHDTV (hooray for Rec.2020), and VR is pushing refresh.
Since displays are easily the longest lived part of a setup I'm completely fine to wait until they're a true massive leap and then pull the trigger on quality stuff. I've got $6000 waiting, just a little bit more. I'm so happy that at long, long last display tech is moving forward all at once again, there was a huge period of stagnation in the 00s after LCDs became standard where it just sat at the exact same max res, color and refresh in the mainstream and even pro markets.
Fuck I'm pumped. What a great time.
>>343191637
If you have the 4GB 770GTX you're still fine, if you can play on lower settings if it's not atleast 60 fps.
The 2GB needs some updating, but is still fine if you use a slightly lower resolution on most modern games.
I'd like to see some final Prices in germany for the RX480. The leaked ones were not worth it, but I haven't checked today.
>>343187248
Console fag here.
I want to build my first PC but I'm also poorfag.
I want to run games in 1080p at a range of 30-60fps in medium-high.
Also I want to get into PS2 and Wii-GC emulation.
Is the RX 480 good enough?
>>343195169
144hz > 1440p memes.
>>343195850
>AMD CPU?
Nothing wrong with amd cpu. They've been working great for me for ages.
> DDR3?
No reason to upgrade for me yet. DDR3 isn't that old and DDR4 is fairly new. There's no big jump in performance for me if I upgrade now. Maybe in a few years.
> Holy shit are you from 2010????
Post your specs. And you better not show me some cuck 970.
>Samsung 830?
The higher number Samsung SSDs are actually just rebrands of the 830 with a price increase.
>>343195860
> >i spent money so i must be right
You enjoy your 1080p "4K" while I'll enjoy my 4K.
>>343196276
Get this https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/benq-bl3201pt-bl3201ph/ and call it a day
>>343196065
mmhmm
>>343189347
Something something budget card something something beating $XXX priced card something something NVIDIA BTFO -AMD Shills
>>343195169
Because I spent my money on the GPU.
Do you want Good GPU + 1080p or Shitty GPU + 1440p?
Pick one.
>>343194845
im not using flux, that shit is for pussy eyes
i have male alpha eyes
they dont need no shitty tint
also i tried to take a photo with my potato, however, i don't think it furthers my point much. on the far left, is the picture, saved and uploaded. the floorboards looks so much darker, his clothes are darker and the green is darker, it just has worse depth overall
the middle picture is the emulator and the right one is a picture i JUST captured (but DIDNT save, and isnt compressed to 24 bits yet)
how the fuck do i change the image quality paint saves in? i used to be able to do this, now i have no idea
>>343196434
>get this shitty garbage with no significant advantages over what I've got and that satisfies none of the criteria I'm interested in
Sasuga /v/.
>more than 300€ for reference RX 480 in Europe
Nope, getting GTX 1070.
Nvidia is going to get cucked. The battle is fought and won on the low-mid tier range ($100-200), anything more and you are targetting a very small niche market and will be lucky to even claw back your R$T costs.
What AMD needs to do now is to make sure their driver support is up to scratch, so the card "just werks". Then they can mass flog it at your average "gamers" running 1080p on mediums (in a pre-built mind you) and they will be rolling in cash.
>>343196607
> 7capture
You could of just use snipping tools that's built into windows.
>>343191231
Got a 280x and was recently gifted a 144fps monitor. Will this suffice?
>>343196386
Sure, but don't get a fucking AMD CPU.
Get a 4690K (any K series)or better.
>>343196760
280x is kinda dated. Like two generations ago dated. Get a 480.
>>343196616
>is a 4k monitor
>is IPS
>is larger than 27-28"
>has same input time / response time as 1920 IPS monitors, if not better
>has built-in scaling for 1920x1080 which most monitors lack
>not good
whoaaaa wtf m9, it's only lacking adobe RGB, but not even all the photog like that. Can you just gtfo if you don't know what you're doing?
>>343196619
MSI's 480 goes for 350€. Nice competition AMD.
>>343196386
If you are getting into emulation just make sure you get an intel CPU with the highest clock speed.
Recent AMD cards fare very well on Dolphin.
>>343196619
The 1070s are even more overpriced here right now, if they're in stock that is.
>>343194918
sound
>>343196839
Nothing wrong with amd cpu. Everyone who shits on it are just idiots who never tried amd cpu in their lives.
>>343195432
>3.5gb vs 8gb
Only if you're running anything higher than 1080p
>>343188797
>Spend $200 and get 970 performance
>Spend $400 and get titanX performance
That's pretty linear scaling of performance per dollar yo. 970 SLI is on par with the TitanX.
>>343196386
As long as you get an i5 or higher, then definitely.
>>343195021
no it doesn't, steam doesn't control that. left monitor is defaulted to monitor 0 which most programs default to. windows 7 has no option make monitor 1 for example monitor 0. so since it started on monitor 0 for first startup and i turned off the monitor, sonic generations wont even start because it cant find monitor 0. need to go through the filesystem and delete its configuration file just to change this. and since windows 7 doesnt support controlling the operating system with a controller (like android for example supports) you need to get up to even deal with sonic generations external configuration software since you cant navigate it. unless there is some shit im missing in which case please tell me. i would use xpadder or similar if it didn't make controlling games that actually do work well with controllers work less well
>>343196403
>>343196956
>Nothing wrong with amd cpu
>8 core 4.7GHz with same performance as a 4 core 3.3GHz.
He's gonna emulate PS2 and GC/Wii games you retard.
AMD CPUs can't do shit with their pre-1998 IPC tier per core performance.
>>343196890
>Recent AMD cards fare very well on Dolphin.
That's because they added DX12 support to Dolphin and nvidia sucks at dx12.
So what's a good sub $500 rim with the rx480?
>>343196607
use a different tool m8. Paint.net or gimp, anything really.
>>343188413
For its price tag it's really not though.
>>343196980
>Only if you're running anything higher than 1080p
While most situations in gaming will never go above 3.5gb of ram for 1080p, it CAN happen in some situations. For example, pic related. The player climbed really high and looked down. The card would then have to keep rendering wandering NPCs until it fills up 3.5gb of ram. That is when it has to access the cucked .5gb of ram and then the card shits itself. Frames drop like bricks.
> in b4 ass creed suck, can't do garbage collecting
That's not the fault of the game. The video card reports that it has 4gb of ram to the mobo, OS and game. So anything 4gb of ram is fair game to use up.
>>343192624
This isn't a card meant for people who were buying 390's or 970's or 290's 2 years ago anon.
It's meant for people sitting in anything lower than a 380x who only ever spent $200 on their graphics cards in the first place.
How are you fucktards so stupid all the time? It's called market segmentation.
>GTX 1070 is £400 odd
I don't remember the meme70 costing this much
>>343196607
Liften for fuck sake.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+7+color+profile
>>343196386
If you want to do dolphin emulation (wii and gamecube) you NEED an intel CPU, and a relatively beefy one. Nothing below an intel i5
For a starter PC a RX480 is a good start but it depends on where you live. Apparently according to all the Euros in this thread, it makes sense why they are mad, they are getting way overcharged for the RX480 so a GTX 970 is probably a better choice
You could also wait for the GTX 1060 as well, however we dont know any details about it.
>>343196386
while I'm dead retarded when it comes to AMD gpus because I never had one, I can tell you a few things about emulation.
If you want only to emulate you need a decent cpu, nothing fancy. But If you like to fiddle around and make games look better on emulation than their original counterparts, you'll need a strong intel cpu.
As for gpu the RX480 should be fine, but again I don't know shit about them.
>>343196842
Oh cool, thx
>>343193189
Bullshit. I'm running i5 3570K + GTX 670 and I'm doing just fine. It's not smooth with everything maxed out, but a mix of high/medium settings. Currently playing Fallout 4 with most of the stuff at Ultra, and a FEW settings at medium.
>>343195169
I'm not even on 1080p.
>>343196956
I changed from a FX-8350 to a Xeon E3-1231v3 and honestly..
Huge difference in performance in most of windows and gaming in general.
However, it really comes down to if you're willing to spend the money. AMD CPUs do what they're told to for the money. Reasonable price for reasonable performance.
>>343197060
>>8 core 4.7GHz with same performance as a 4 core 3.3GHz.
That was back in DX11 because DX11 doesn't use more than 1 core. The whole point of DX12 is that it actually makes use of all your cores.
Pic related, it's also true for intel processors just as well as amd even tho the pic is from amd.
>>343197210
Places around here are selling the founders edition one for 500 USD
>>343192782
The top card on Steam is the Intel HD 4400. Less than 20% of people have a 970 or better.
>>343190937
Basically integrated graphics, except it's free.
>>343196856
>>is a 4k monitor
Yes, in other words it's fucking nothing.
>is IPS
So are my NEC LCD2690s. And higher quality IPS at that.
>is larger than 27-28"
Are you actually implying that's an advantage with such a low res?
>has same input time / response time as 1920 IPS monitors, if not better
This is a basic standard.
>has built-in scaling for 1920x1080 which most monitors lack
Not mine, not that it matters anyway.
>not good
>whoaaaa wtf m9, it's only lacking adobe RGB, but not even all the photog like that. Can you just gtfo if you don't know what you're doing?
Nice memes friend. My current screens do ARGB, but that's also a completely obsolete standard. You listed a budget tier trash screen that meets nothing I want. You could have at the very least posted that 5K Dell which at least is a little of the way there.
If you're fine settling for that that's cool, it meets your needs. But you (or whoever it was) asked why we weren't on 4k in 2016 and I told you. 4k is a shitty in-between step. I'm not investing a penny in that.
>>343190897
MultiGPU, if you're doing it right, will outperform any single GPU available by a significant margin.
The whole point of multiGPU is "I can't get a single GPU fast enough to meet my performance needs".
Unless you're upgrading an old rig though. If you have a 270x, throwing a second 270x in there will bring you up to 290x performance levels which can be a nice boost for the cost of a used 270x.
>>343195169
You do realize that it's not, right?
>>343197453
Just took this from Steam stats;
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4.94%
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 3.28%
Intel HD Graphics 4000 3.25%
>>343197414
Then post a non-AMD promotion image benchmark of a game then that runs on DX12 that runs 3.4x faster than the i5 2500K or similar CPU.
After all, it have twice the cores, this 2x and it runs at 1.4x MHz so adding that it should be 3.4 times faster than the i5 2500K.
>>343191440
You do realize that even AMD's hottest modern GPU's run with less power usage and heat output as any GPU 4-5 years old, right?
We weren't melting back in 2009-2010 from heat output and our wallets weren't empty from electricity usage.
>>343196619
>300
ah fuck man even a damned gtx960 is 200+eurobucks here.
When it comes to black electronics we are always cucked.
I sell my r9 390 for this shit
>>343195431
Ouch, so sorry anon. Particularly response time
>>343197061
Actually it was before that.
https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2014/03/15/pixel-processing-problems/
>>343197036
Before my monitor shit on me it was the default screen, monitor 0. This would autamagically switch it to my tv whenever I started big picture and switch it back when I closed big picture.
I will say that choosing the right setting is fucky at best. They were both generic 1080p monitors so it took a few attempts to select the right one. For some reason they didnt stay in the same order, probably because it was switching the default monitor which is always at the top of the list I guess.
So unless they changed something in the last 3 months it should work fine anon.
>>343197638
I have no sympathy for someone as retarded as you.
>>343197197
>That's not the fault of the game. The video card reports that it has 4gb of ram to the mobo, OS and game. So anything 4gb of ram is fair game to use up.
Yeah, the devs optimize for what is reported, they don't (and shouldn't) try to figure out if the hardware is somehow fucking lying to them. It'd be bad coding if it tried to use 5 gigs and that shat itself or something, the devs of course need to make sure it scales to whatever VRAM the card has. But if the card says "yep, it's cool to use 4 gigs" that shouldn't come with a million gotchas.
>>343197510
4k has 4 times the working area of regular 1080. Sure you might be ad adventage with 2x monitors, but who's to say you couldn't have 2x 4k monitors? The benefit of 32" is that the PPI is same as 23" 1080 monitor, so there's literally very little scaling required. If you were to get 5k monitor, you'd have to have a 40" or larger because the PPI will be too high for windows.
>>343191614
Console APUs
>>343190551
2x480 had less performance than a single 480 in this
>>343191685
It's ALWAYS more cost effective to buy a $200 GPU and upgrade to a new $200 GPU in 2 years than it is to buy a $400 GPU and wait longer to upgrade.
Just ask Titan Black bros how their $1000 card is doing three years later.
>300 euro in yurop
>>343187248
Is there a fucking pricetag now for europe?
I want to know how much it costs! "$199 USD" is not a valid answer. There's still fucking tax.
>>343197742
That's because it's DX12 and doesn't support Crossfire yet moron.
>>343191390
im in the 200-250 range
i have a r9280x and im gonna get a 480.
>>343197728
>Same file name, no source.
https://warosu.org/g/thread/54190949#p54195979
I have no idea why you all get so tribal about which California technology company makes a certain part in your PC.
Personally, I'm glad that the companies keep topping each other. It's better for the consumers.
>>343197809
around 280€ in europe for RX480
so a clear no
>>343198004
>no source
Source is in the picture you dumb fuck. It's a youtube video from the Hardware Unboxed guys. Do I have to spoonfeed you the link too?
>>343197760
Nah
If you bought a 980 or 970 you would have had a better card for what? 3 years? and still have a better card than the 480. So there is no need for them to upgrade till the 480 has to upgrade as well.
The only thing that matters is what you play and what settings you want to run them at
If you want to save money then just run integrated
>>343197723
Are you fucking serious? I said specifically I plan to just use 2x scaling, so a 5120x3200 screen would give me a general 2560x1600 working area, except at HiDPI resolutions. Gaming is only a secondary usage for me. This is not something that's an issue in 2016, or earlier for that matter. x2 PPI screens have been shipping in even consumer products for a while.
Are you seriously from a third world country or something? I could understand then if you're a ways behind the curve, although even there phones/tablets should have taught you at least a little something.
>>343197674
programs at least on windows 7 open on the screen they were last used on. if you moved steam over to the other monitor and opened big picture mode it would open there too. this has nothing to do with monitor order, it doesn't change that. if you opened the resolution screen like you were changing monitor resolution you could see your monitor's labels without a way to change them and that is just that problem and not even really the big point i was making either, which is that it isn't an option to get comfortable while playing pc games since there are no universal standards
>>343197809
Around 300 euro for reference
>>343198236
Are your that retarded that you don't know what spoonfeeding is even though you have one full of shit and eating it too?
It's like 300€ here
Fuck thar
>>343197084
>sub $500
>>343197809
270-300 euro for 8gb
970 here goes for 350-370 euro
so if you have 960 and lower it's a good card
>>343198328
Dont know what to tell you anon, changing that setting made big picture work beautifully for me.
I guess you could get ultramon and save a profile as a shortcut to run through steam to do the switching each time.
>>343191739
>card that shits itself past 3.5GB of VRAM and on DX12 games
>still not $200
I hope you retards buy a GTX 970 and gets anally frustrated in upcoming games.
>>343196276
>5120x2880 (or 3200) @90 Hz, 12-bit panel
Nice, but hold up here I think will actually be DisplayPort. That's too much bandwidth, even for 1.3. It'd have to be a multicable system right now, or else hope they update DP in the next few years, maybe finally go optical.
>>343196398
This
>>343198393
You're the retard who claimed no source despite the picture giving you all the information you need to find the source.
I only asked if you need someone to spoonfeed you the source. Now you're claiming I don't know what spoonfeeding is... you are full of shit because you are the idiot who doesn't know what spoonfeeding is.
Stop being a retard.
>>343198596
There are specs for 1.4 but iirc its not been finalised yet.
>>343198325
You wont benefit much screen space if you're using scaling and small 5k monitors. What point is it to have 4-5k monitor on 27-28" when a 1080 @ 23" is sharp enough ? With a big 4k screens (32" and above) one can have all the benefits of the "bigger than 1080" resolution.
>>343198638
An image is no source if it doesn't redirect you to the actual fucking source.
You're fucking retarded if you think it's meant that people should fetch the source then it's on your fucking duty to bring proof and sources of your poor argument.
>>343195169
I'm on a 144Hz screen.
>>343196398
120hz 1440p > 144hz 1080p
>>343198550
i think you've been misinterpreting my posts, big picture mode works fine for me
YOU SAID IT WOULD NOT BE POO IN LOO /V/!!!!
YOU FUCKING LIED!!!!!!
DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME TO FUCKING WAIT FOR VULKAN!!!!
>>343198596
specs are done already, copper can take a ton more bandwidth
compressing is sort of easy mathematically it jsut takes some cycles, so as hardware moves forward we are getting more for less
hell 15 year ago nobody believed in video chats
Oh and this says everything there is to be said.
Not only that but it seems to only use 2 cores since an i3 have the same performance as the i7.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zxkqdqYwGs&feature=youtu.be&t=320
>>343198539
eh I'll just buy a fucking 960 then.
>>343198912
DESIGNATED GPU
>>343198912
wait for vega :^)
>>343199106
960 has x2.3 less fps than 480 though
>>343198853
Maybe, I thought you were saying that it didnt switch default monitors and games would still open on the original screen rather than where you want on a second screen.
Maybe im just an idiot and tired.
I'm a complete poorfag skrub with an i3 and GTX 750Ti - how would this card affect my performance?
>>343198743
>An image is no source if it doesn't redirect you to the actual fucking source.
You're a retard. The image tells you it's a youtube video. The image tells you the name of the video. The image tells you which group of people did the video.
If you can't figured the rest of on your own, you're a retard who needs someone to spoonfeed you.
>>343198252
22 months.
If you bought a 980 when it came out, you paid around $600 after taxes et all.
The $200 480 actually offers very similar performance to a stock GTX 980.
Here's some of eurogamers benchmark data at 1080p
The Division: 55 FPS for 480, 58 for 980.
The Witcher 3: 61 FPS for 480, 66 for 980
Crysis 3: 70 FPS for 480, 75 for 980
FC Primal: 58 FPS for 480, 63 for 980.
So basically the 480 is within spitting distance of the 980 performance in less than 2 years for 1/3 the cost of the 980 on release.
So in terms of cost effectiveness, you can either pay $200 every 2 years or you can pay (total of $400 over a 4 year period) or you can pay $600 and upgrade once every 4 years. In the first half you'll have better performance, in the second half you'll have equal performance. You're paying a $200 premium to have better performance within the first 2 years. (And keep in mind, when it came out the 980 was overkill for 1080p. Your $200 280 could run most games in the same performance bracket as the 480 runs modern games.)
For some people that's worth it, but for 90% of the market it isn't.
>>343199278
about 350% more
>>343198672
No it's done, was published in March, but 1.4 is basically a software update of 1.3, has stuff like new lossy compression modes, more inline audio channels, and updates for compatibility with the new BT.2020 color space (which is the standard for UHDTV). But it doesn't provide any major fundamental bandwidth leap, no new transmission modes, so we're still on HBR3 from DP 1.3, ie 32.4 Gbps.
It's going to be harder from here though, we're really starting to push the limits of what copper can handle for any significant distance in a flexible cable package. I know Intel is working on Thunderbolt 4, and apparently they might be able to squeeze it to 80 Gbps, and that really would be enough display-wise. But no word on cable lengths, and TB has to use active compensation chips so cable prices will definitely go up if they go that route. Interconnect is going to remain a challenge until silicon optics really hits mainstream and copper can be dumped for data IO (I expect we'll still see copper jacketed or composite with optical for the purposes of power).
>>343199340
90% of the market is people with shit GPUs you dumbshit
>>343199278
your cpu would bottleneck
>>343199427
more what m8thanks for the reply
>>343199106
the 970 will drop in price in the next few weeks you can find them cheaper than the 480 if you look around.
>>343199340
>28nm 980
>14nm 480
I want to fucking break your face so bad
>>343199278
you can actually play new games in 1080p high or ultra settings
>>343199278
Your performance would be multiplied by two or three.
Your CPU would hold you back though.
>>343199503
So I should basically skip the card and focus on a new rig further down the line instead?
>>343199340
The 480 is priced at 1/2 of what the 980 cost at launch here in Europe
>>343199198
well its cheaper, there is no fucking way I would pay 300 eur for the rx480.
Its worth for americans but for europeans, hell fucking no, and 300 is the reference card anyway, so the actual one what I would buy will probably around 340, and thus it doesn't worth at all.
>>343198971
>compressing is sort of easy mathematically
Compression is not the answer for a PC display. A PC display needs to display even incompressible content without artifacting, lossy is not acceptable.
So yeah, we'll need at least one more round of bandwidth boosts. It looks like we'll probably get it though, we'll just be limited on cable length.
>>343199606
It's tempting just for that increase, but the sensible part of my brain is telling me to wait.
The problem is that my PC is dying and struggling with things that, last year, were totally fine for it.
>>343199634
No one cares about Europe. Only US prices are relevant to any discussion.
>>343199316
The image tells me it's a picture from a benchmark from a user with hundreds of videos.
It's not the source.
The source is the specific video you braindead face fucked mentally handicapped castaway.
You brought that image, YOU are the one that should bring the fucking source, but nope, you're probably face deep in feces and can't remember which deleted video it was from their account.
Back on topic, AMD CPU are shit and core count doesn't save them because their IPC is shit and Intel have 6,8,10,12,14,16,18, 20 and 22 core CPU all designed to shit the fuck out of AMD.
http://ark.intel.com/products/91317/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2699-v4-55M-Cache-2_20-GHz
>>343198539
If it's really that fucking expensive I might aswell just take a 970 since they already go for less than 300
>>343191171
i built a PC for 500 dollars with an R9 270 and i play all my games on high at 60fps
>>343199672
Too bad euro has shitty import tax. Or you'd be able to just import one from the US.
Is there any loopholes to getting around import tax in your country?
>>343199582
Calm down you angry autist and face the reality your GTX "3.5+0.5" 980 isn't peforming the dollar's worth.
>>343187248
>energy drain on load comparable to gtx 1080
>energy drain on idle WORSE than of better performing 390x
amd is going down the shitter
>>343199737
AMD has always had terrible prices in Europe and look how their marketshares are now
>>343199672
How much is 980 worth?
>>343199737
>"im a nigger and I know it"
the post
>>343199962
Might a well start discussing the price difference in Brazil, you inbred tard. US has the most objective market prices.
>>343199619
you should quit vidya and get a jawb
>>343198693
>You wont benefit much screen space if you're using scaling and small 5k monitors.
Yes I will. I've tried it already. You're acting like HiDPI screens have not been a thing for literally years. Fucking iMac shit has them.
>What point is it to have 4-5k monitor on 27-28" when a 1080 @ 23" is sharp enough ?
Because it's not sharp enough at all. Well, maybe it is for your eyes and that's fine, but realize you are not the universal.
Also, just in case it somehow wasn't obvious we're talking PC viewing distances here, ie., 18-26" or so. In a living room it's a completely different story.
>With a big 4k screens (32" and above) one can have all the benefits of the "bigger than 1080" resolution.
Nope. At 36" I'd want an 8K display.
>>343200110
tru
>tfw bought rx 480 right when store opened
>tfw when im very happy with it
>>343195096
>newegg
>>343195169
Because 4k is a meme, it's been made for customers to keep buying stuff.
Even in high end post production, workstation screens are rarely over hd resolution. Also why bother because films are usually still done in 2k resolution no matter what.
There is no reason to invest in 4k on any level unless you have special needs (medical visualization for example, or examining huge data sets like in oil industry, or defence imaging etc).
>>343200138
I fucking love my 5k iMac. Shits a beast...except for games. :(
>>343199562
If this Is true I would wait, but again, I don't want to wait another months.
>>343199853
If I would import even from the UK I would need to pay so much for it that I would end up on the same price as it'll be here.
Again Its nt accessible in middle yurop yet, but if other europoopers say its 300, then I estabilish its price around 320 for reference and around 340-ish for aftermarket.
Everything what is considered as computer electronics has retardedly huge price here.
>>343191810
>buying a reference card
>ever
>>343199739
>It's not the source.
>The source is the specific video you braindead face fucked mentally handicapped castaway.
Goalpost moving. I only claimed you can EASILY find the source from the picture without having someone to spoonfeed you. But that clearly isn't the case. I overestimated your abilities. You're obviously too stupid to do that.
> You brought that image
Yes I did. Problem?
> YOU are the one that should bring the fucking source
I rather mock you for your stupidity of not being able to find the source with all the right information given in the picture.
> and can't remember which deleted video it was from their account.
The video is still there on their channel, never deleted.
>>343200243
*tips respectfully*
A reminder that this 199$ AMD GPU still needs at least a decent 4 core Intel CPU to maximize it's performance, otherwise it's quite a bit weaker than it appears in most benchmarks.
Not that the performance is that good in the first place while running on top tier Intel cpus.
>>343195624
>fucking idiot
>not understanding the comment
my god this place is atrocious
>>343200226
Attach a "custom" heatsink to it and overclock it.
gtx 1060/1050 when?
Will gtx 970/960 have a price drop?
>>343200415
>still needs at least a decent 4 core Intel CPU to maximize it's performance
DX11 doesn't use 4 cores. It only uses 1 core at most.
Why do they compare it to the 970?
I'd rather get a 1070 and never mess with Crossfire or SLI.
Stop caring so much
>>343199862
Swallow cum you faggot. Your pathetic 480 isnt even close to 980. So everything you say is irrelevant to me. Your stupidity and lack of knowledge is just hilarious. A fucking 2,5 year old 970 GPU shits on your polaris architecture and 14nm. Congratulations my poorfagging autist.
>>343196607
>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+7+color+profile
I DID IT
I FUCKING FIXED IT
GYAZO DOESNT MESS UP YOUR QUALITY
thank you based gyazo
i mean just compare it with >>343194423
this is what i meant
fucking 24 bit png jpg paint default quality makes anything on pc look like garbage
>>343200349
Thus no proof that AMD have anything against Intel.
Hope you get run over by a truck and in court you'll tell the judge that the truck driver have to bring proof that he run you over.
Like the poor fag you are he's just gonna laugh in your face and shit down your mouth because he knows you're an AMD user.
>>343200319
Well, glad you enjoy it. I do have my parents on a couple older ones, it reduced my tech support load a lot. I'm not shitting on OS X here, it's done a lot of good stuff and I'm glad it exists and it's part of my mix, but AIOs are just never going to be for me. In fairness, for something which is mostly laptop parts Apple was actually pretty aggressive with the highend iMac GPU even, the real problems are more software related (Apple dumped OpenGL dev a while ago so it's outdated as fuck now vs Linux even). Still I don't see towers leaving my life in the near future. And it's too bad Apple gave up on them entirely, I liked seeing what they tried back when they cared more about the Mac market even if I wasn't going to get one. It doesn't hurt to have a big company aggressively pushing forward the envelope on standards.
>>343195816
>Temperatures in Celcius (Less is better)
hahah holy shit like really?
I'm guessing if it was fahrenheit it wouldn't have the text in brackets lol kek
>>343196956
>Nothing wrong with amd cpu.
Except Intel shits on them repeatedly and has been since the Athlon days ended.
AMD's single core perf is bad.
can someone tell me what to do right now?
i wanted to get an r9 390 should i get the 480 instead ? help :(
>>343200850
Wait for vulkan. :^)
>>343188486
>GPU depentent games aren't affected much by CPU performance
Wow, who would've fucking guessed
Try rendering on a fucking Pentium 2, though
>>343197728
>AOTS
>As if it means anything
>>343200850
get a bag of potatoes
GTX 1060 soon, comrades
http://videocardz.com/61507/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-spotted-in-hong-kong
>3GB/6GB
And it will still shit all over the 480
Not only that, but the 1060 Ti (half-gimped GP104) is also coming out and will cream the 480.
>>343200850
Whichever one is cheaper which will probably be the 480 most places.
>>343200982
sounds good
GTX 1070 - $799 CAD
Being a leaf is suffering
>>343196276
>5k
you seriously should try to improve your real life instead of wasting money in garbage manchildren gimmicks dude....
>>343195169
>he fell for 1440p
Grats on your stopgap.
>>343200138
I'm still confused how you will manage to get more screen space than your current setup AND definition. If you're scaling, aren't you throwing away both the definition and the screen space? Basically it sounds like you want monitors that are "sharper". I think you can't have both, if you go for ppi everything will look small on windows, if you go for screenspace the sharpness is not much better, but the screenspace is literally 4 times more (provided monitor is big enough to not need scaling). I'm not getting your choice
>>343187248
>>343187445
Reads like shilling.
>>343200067
rarely seen a nigger patrioting this hard
>>343200850
480 is faster, cheaper and cooler
Goys, help me out.
1080p poorfag. Is there a purpose for 8gb over 4gb at 1080p?
My graphics card is broken as fuck now, so I can't really wait for the 1060.
>>343200641
>Your pathetic 480 isnt even close to 980.
Since when a single frame difference is worth 50$? Actually, since when would anyone pay 50$ to get MINUS 4.5 GBs of RAM?
You have be a literal moron to suggest anyone to buy 980 over 480.
>>343199582
So what? How is it his fault that nvidia can't afford smaller nodes?
how the fuck is something with 8gb almost slower than something with
3 . 5
>>343201037
import from US?
>>343200748
>Thus no proof that AMD have anything against Intel.
I have no idea how you jumped to this leap in logic. It's like we're speaking of one thing and now you jumped to another to avoid talking about something else.
If anything, the picture proves DX12 can really help AMD processors pretty much match Intel processors. This is why AMD pushed very hard for DX12.
Also, you're still a retard for not being able to look up youtube videos from the information given.
> Hope you get run over by a truck and in court you'll tell the judge that the truck driver have to bring proof that he run you over.
So salty that you got BTFO over nobody spoonfeeding you. kek. If anything, you'd be the one who has no proof since you cry for others to bring you proof instead of looking for it yourself when all the evidence is right in front of you.
> Like the poor fag you are he's just gonna laugh in your face and shit down your mouth because he knows you're an AMD user.
Like all retards who get btfo, you resort to throwing insults instead of logic and reasoning.
>>343201187
If Mirror's Edge is any indication of how future games will work, you'll need that extra 4GB of VRAM.
>>343201215
AMD
They do the same with CPUs.
Just look at their 8 core 4.7GHz getting destroyed by 2core 3.4GHz i3.
>>343201038
lurk morebecause you're obviously a newfaggot
I'm just waiting for the 350-400 dollar cards on the lower side of high end. Until then, i'm going to stick with my 390. Can OC it a bit too.
>>343200329
If your in europe you might be cheaper to import it from UK seeing as pound if fucked
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-evga-geforce-gtx-970-sc-gaming-acx-20-pcie-30-7010mhz-gddr5-gpu-1165mhz-boost-1317mhz-cores-1664
>>343187248
Well at least in the Euro zone it's about the same price as a stock 970 since the prices dropped for equivalent performances, and as far as power consumption and overclocking goes the RX480 isn't too good.
Honestly sounds to me this is going to be a flop, especially considering we are a couple of weeks away from the big summer sales here...
>hey guys looks like Intel are the better option for gayman cpu right now i will get one
>JUST WAIT FOR ZEN
>hey guys looks like nvidia are the better option for gayman gpu right now i will get one
>JUST WAIT FOR 480
Post yfw you're not part of club always behind.
SOON
Get hyped for the 480-killer
Because the 1070 and 1080 was too hard for it
>>343200817
>2016
>DX12
>still bitching about single core
fool.
>240 bucks for a GPu only to play console ports
>actually only some of them, as most are nvidia biased since everyone has nvidia
>especially with WB tier publishers who ship out broken games and withhold games from PC because "entitled PC gamers don't deserve our games"
>>343201337
>Just look at their 8 core 4.7GHz getting destroyed by 2core 3.4GHz i3.
Show me some proof.
>tfw 950s in SLI beat a single 480
Good thing they're like $100 each right now
>>343201281
>claims AMD is better, doesn't bring link to video, only a cherry picked image of one of the many tests that shows AMD way behind Intel.
like here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zxkqdqYwGs&feature=youtu.be&t=320
Stop breathing, you're wasting the air used by people decent enough to actually do things in life.
I'm not sure I should with with 4GB or 8GB.
I plan to stick with 1080p for another 2 or so years then do 4k, 8GB seems smarter in case more unoptimized bullshit games like ME2 happen.
>>343201038
>gimmicks
Nice meme. And do you really think all of us here use our PCs just for gaming, or even mainly for gaming? You're the kind of retard who blindly shits on people using Xeons too because "oh games don't need that" or "muh OC" as if there are never other considerations.
"Manchild" definitely is a good word for you to know though, since you will see one in the mirror with some regularity.
>>343201425
>400$ USD
>2% faster then a rx 480
People will still try to justify it.
>>343201234
Yeah that's my plan. I usually drive across the border every two or three months and buy a bunch of stuff, so I'll grab one on my next trip across.
>AMD will destroy the 1080
>uh.. AMD will sure be as good as the 1070
>no way in hell the 980 will be able to beat this one boys
>well at least it runs as well as a 970
>I mean 950
>When it comes to price/performance, the RX480 (8GB) can't be beat at $199 USD
Just shut the fuck up already, you're making yourself look bad.
>>343201582
>whole argument was about DX12
>linking to the very part where he was showing DX11 graph
Are you retarded?
>>343201537
The only AMD image I have on my PC.
Ironically enough there's only one AMD in this image as well.
>>343201717
It's time for your lunch break, Pajeet.
I'm rolling with a Radeon HD 7870 and have for a few years now, my tv/monitor is 60 Hz, and right now my graphics card is the worst element in my build.
Is this card the best thing to happen to a 60fps max person like me or would I be better off getting something else?
>>343201591
Meh. Just go for 8gb version. Will be fine. Rather then kick yourself in the ass if that extra 4gb would help later on.
>>343201647
The Founder's Edition starts at $250, the standard 6GB cards will be around $199, the 3GB will be lower
AMD FOREVER KEKED
>>343195096
>mfw 3.5GB
>>343201717
top kek
>>343201728
Does it hurt when you think?
>look up the rx 480 in cyberport (where i get almost everything)
>costs 289€
>look up r9 390
> costs 299 €
>>343201801
480 is a 1080p/60fps card. Don't buy a older card if you're in that budget range.
>>343201935
Now look up 980
>>343201729
> bragging about dual core
> single thread performance picture
>>343201026
>300 dollars
I'll rather get the 1080.
>>343202001
418 €
2 much
>>343201190
>You have be a literal moron to suggest anyone to buy 980 over 480.
where did I do that exactly ?
>Since when a single frame difference is worth 50$? Actually, since when would anyone pay 50$ to get MINUS 4.5 GBs of RAM?
You wont be using your 8GB anyways. You are to fucking stupid to realise that you won't run anything in 4k. A 970 OC is cheaper or same price point as RX480. Keep swallowing cum.
>AMD is back
Yeah back to the garbage
>>343189856
>MFW
>280X is still best AMD card
>bought one for 150$ more than one year ago
It feels so good
>>343202015
>AMD can't even beat a mobile CPU performance per core
>>343202092
>2 much
Are you poor? Can't afford 2% performance increase for just 100€? 980 literally blows the floor out of 480s legs!
>>343201717
>199USD
The cheapest I could find in first world Europe, excluding UK, is 260€ without shipping.
Cheapest GTX970 is 280€ but with a 25€ refund. So 255€.
Nvidia just announced 1060, people are going to wait for that too.
Feel bad for AMD...
>>343200504
Close but no. AMD's driver only uses a single thread - DX11 itself can scale to more than a single thread (typically it stops scaling at 4 for well threaded games).
>>343200469
Did that to a 290x.
>>343201717
fucking AMDrones BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>343202240
>343202240
can't afford it
and not for 2% anyway fuck 0ff
You AMD drones forget the fact that not everyone is running Win 10. Nvidia destroys AMD in DX11 environment. Win 10 flopped, it's time to move on.
>>343201868
Maybe if you stopped using outdated old videos from the 2015 beta, you'd actually learn something. Btw, here's the source of my picture since you need spoonfeeding.
https://youtu.be/_InaE6v_N_k?t=5m11s
>>343202097
>let me tell you what you're going to do
>and why you don't need a 480
>so better get a 980 goy
>A 970 OC is cheaper or same price point as RX480
Who the hell cares about 970? 980 is the only relevant card to this discussion. Literally show me the place where 980 is listed cheaper than 480. They all cost more. Here 480 runs at 320€, while 980 at over 420€. I have to believe the difference is the same in US.
>>343187248
Any Vulkan benchmarks?
>>343202467
>Nvidia destroys AMD in DX11 environment.
Nope. It would be correct to say Intel destorys AMD in DX11 environment. DX11 affects amd and nvidia about the same.
>>343202407
oh sorry meant 1%
>>343201137
>I'm still confused how you will manage to get more screen space than your current setup AND definition.
Because as I said, I'm currently on multiple 1920x1200 displays, running 1:1 obviously.
>If you're scaling, aren't you throwing away both the definition and the screen space?
No? I'd be getting 2560x1600 equivalent for text content, and still have the 5k for 1:1 content. You need to look up how HiDPI displays are used, seriously. It's the same principle as on a decent phone or tablet made in like the last half decade. Or you could look at how Apple handled it back in 2012 with their notebook, and they had a pretty early attempt:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6023/the-nextgen-macbook-pro-with-retina-display-review/6
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6008/windows-8-on-the-retina-display-macbook-pro
Things have improved since on all platforms. Critically, note how backing is NON-GLOBAL, as in you can display both 1:1 and scaling at the exact same time. So you can have an image/video editor be showing 1:1 in the window while all UI elements, text and so forth are sharp.
>Basically it sounds like you want monitors that are "sharper". I think you can't have both
Of course you can have both. That's why I want 5k, or better, so that I can have clean x2 scaling and still have more screen space then I've got right now.
>>343201827
>two year old 28nm graphic card with 3.5GB still does just as good as AMD's flagship with 8GB
Already confirmed loud, hot , 6pin connector, barely any room at all for overclocking.
Yeah, totally worth it guys...
>>343202585
Nobody uses Vulkan. Only like one indie game did... and nobody gives a fuck about that games. It's all about DX12 these days.
Tho Dragon Age Inquisition did use Mantle.... but that's the only one game I know of that did.
>>343202678
fuck off
>>343202568
>moving goalposts
>only 980 is now releveant
reading comprehension is not your strength
fuckign end yourself and do everyone a favor
>>343202497
async computer from furyx aids amd CPU
And now the test that shows the nvidia with the AMD and with another game.
He even said that this is just one of the games this behaves like this and you should take it with a grain of salt.
>AMD
>rehashing their GCN architecture with minimal changes since 2011
It's no wonder that the GCN lead architect left AMD few years ago.
>>343202785
whoops I just redid my calculations, must be now more than 0.5% difference! yay for 980 3.5GB version!!
>>343189480
It has made a difference. The 390 and the 390x consume twice the amount of power as the 480. You'd have a cooler system which means better frames, as well as saving money on your electric bill.
>>343202783
Doom is going to have Vulkan you retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anrvBD4aTGY
>>343202671
AMD cards are running better in DX12 environment than AMD DX11 cards. Nvidia's DX12 is not much different from DX11, so AMD only excels in DX12
>>343187248
>break overclocking via a Driver update
>here's a new overclocking tool in our new driver, it does everything 3rd party OC tools can do. Only available for Polaris GPU.
>fuck your Hawaii, I mean Granada. We don not acknowledge the issue.
Here I come, nVidia. Take my money.
>>343202568
But the RX480 is no match for the 980. It barely holds its own against a 970 which is why people compare the two.
>>343202783
The talos principle uses vulkan though croteam admit it is inferior to the DX11 renderer.
Dragon age inquisition, thief, battlefield 4 and a few smaller titles used Mantle, though word is mantle is now broken for BF4.
>It's all about DX12 these days.
Vulkan will overtake DX12 due to one simple fact: it lets you ditch your DX11 path entirely.
>>343202797
Let us also not forget the 980 has one of the worst price vs performance ratios of any gpu released in the last 4 years.
>>343202835
>And now the test that shows the nvidia with the AMD and with another game.
Same game. Still Ashes of Singularity. The argument was always about DX12 and CPUs. Doesn't matter if it's amd video card or nvidia cards video card. Don't move goalpost to video cards.
fun fact, async compute was pushed a lot by nvidia in their older cards. Donno why they suddenly took it out for all their new cards.
>>343203046
So does DX12.
And DX12 has dev tools and support from Xbox team, it's also used on Windows and Xbox
>>343202846
>rehashing
>new 14nm process
Must suck being literally retarded
>>343203181
Maybe same reason they skipped Double Precision on newer Titan models that almost lowered the performance by 70% compared to the older Titan that had DP.
>>343187248
When the fuck did this whole "Red Numbers" mean something positive mean start?
>>343202920
Didn't they have dx12 in the beta? Still.. it's odd as fuck that they took it out right on release...
>>343203181
>fun fact, async compute was pushed a lot by nvidia in their older cards
No, they only support it with CUDA workloads. They removed it from the GTX line of cards as its dead hardware that still sucks up power.
>>343203181
No it doesn't - windows 7 still has too big of a marketshare to ignore and that has no DX12 support. Both AMD and Nvidia have vulkan supporting drivers now so any such game that uses vulkan can get all the delicious improvements DX12 brings (namely reduced cpu overhead) without being tied to any specific OS.
>>343202846
>1070 "uber"
>worse performance than a normal 1070
As long as AMD is competitive that's what matters. Nvidia is the bigger company and they are barely ahead and have had to outspend AMD by hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars to win by the margins they are.
What we see here is a GPU that runs everything maxed out 1080P which is what I've been waiting for in a replacement. I don't care about it not being a perfect 60fps, I don't care about it being the fastest thing out, I don't care about drivers not being perfect for a while.
I can buy multiple RX480s for the cost of a GTX1070. At these prices I'll be able keep a gaming rig going for more than a decade and not break the bank.
>>343187248
Back in the garbage bin.
>>343203282
He talked of architecture you dumb twat.
>>343191675
You can buy it here already for 220 euro
>>343203631
>As long as AMD is competitive that's what matters.
They aren't. This card is the proof.
>>343203332
AMD being associated with "Team Red" has been a thing for a long time, it's plenty common for AMD stuff to be shown in Red or similar (orange say) and Nvidia to be contrasted in Green/Blue. Just part of the branding on both sides.
>>343203631
>costs more than 390 and 970 but performs worse
>competitive
k
>>343203660
GCN is the instruction set you dumbass
>GTX 1060 on 7 July
>480 barely comes close to 970
>runs hotter and no drivers
AMD literally undercuts anything that is possible to even stay remotely relevant. Pathetic. This must be their upcoming bankruptcy.
People shitting on the RX 480 are retarded
>performance equivalent of previous-gen higher-tier cards (R9 390, GTX 970)
>less than usual tier pricing (280 launched at $279)
>GTX 960 was way weaker than GTX 770 at launch
The 480 may not set the world on fire, but it's a good card. Assuming it slowly sinks in price over the year, and AIB models have better overclocking, it looks solid.
>>343203894
Its not - its what AMD calls the architecture.
>>343203749
>>343203846
reminder to not tell lies on the internet because facts will prove you wrong
>>343203749
This card isn't their high end though.
there's still the 480x, 490, 490x, and some dual card to come.
This is a powerful budget card they prioritized over the high end because they wanted to tweak the high end a bit more and knew the price/performance this offers would be appreciated,
>>343203452
over 50% of Steam users use W10. No one ditched DX9 until a year or 3 back, and only in the last year we see shift to 64 bit OSs.
No one will pay money for tools, send their employees on courses to train them to develop for Vulkan when DX11 is already there and does the thing fine. Same shit will happen with DX11 and 12, as with DX9 and 11, only just a bit faster.
Also, protip, people on 7 are just people who will get 10 later down the line for business. With no OSX support Vulkan is better ditched for OpenGL.
>>343203631
That's implying those cards will still work after you're done using them two years.
I had a crossfire of 4850, a long time ago and that pretty much was the worst decision ever building my own comps. It doesn't offer nearly as good performances as it should, it eats electricity like a whale does water, it's prone to visual glitches and one of the cards eventually fails before the other one all too soon.
I'll be running at 1080 for a while. The 480 should keep my shit running at top quality for a while right?
I've been using a 6800 for far too long, this will be a massive improvement regardless
>>343201605
>5k
LOL, imagine investing all that money in real life shit, you would be actually happy. lol dude, lol
>>343203954
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_Core_Next#Instruction_set
>>343188957
Well every game still costs on average 20 dollaridoos less on pc, and you don't have to pay any monthly fee to sony.
>>343203960
That's a metric poorfags tend to overvalue in the extreme.
Release a card that costs 5$ and performs like shit - you have the greatest GPU ever made.
>>343203894
Hurrr; jesus stop talking about things you don't understand please.
They should put an entry boxe on 4chan so two digit iq niggers like yourself stay at the door.
>>343203960
the chart assumes 480 can be had for msrp price now when it's actually more expensive especially outside of US
>>343203903
this
Can't wait how their new GPU gets obliterated in just one week.
>>343199205
that is what im saying but that had nothing to do with steam. steam works perfectly, if everything worked like it did i would be satisfied, im talking about specific programs. starting to think i should get a steam controller
>>343204184
See >>343204128
And promptly kill yourself
>>343203960
And Nvidia can get 80% or more performance out of the same power envelope.
Of course they don't have to resort to price wars, that's what AMD has to do to not go under just yet.
>>343187248
>none of the cards achieve 60fps at 1080p
What is this shit 4k meme then?
>>343204405
When they start pushing 8k :^)
>>343203903
The timing is totally off as well... Plenty of hardware good deals during the summer, plus the price drops Nvidia announced. No real reason to buy this other than actually wanting to support the underdog.
Zen is going to be the last nail in the coffin for AMD.
>>343202694
After reading all the butthurt posted on the online by Asus 27-28" 4k monitor users and other brands, I find it hard to believe that experience with small 5k monitors will be any better.
>>343203846
Good thing I don't live in Europe. I don't have sales tax where I live and get prices second only to Asia where the shit is made. I could buy 4 of these today for the price of a GTX1080 because there isn't any in stock and I would basically use the machine as my 2016 and earlier gaming PC.
Sure their will be better hardware, their always is, but I refuse to pay $300+ for what will die on me after 3 years of heavy use.
Deluded shills.
>>343204360
>80% more performance
>200% higher price
>but muh power consumption
>>343203903
>>480 barely comes close to 970
It's literally better than it
It's literally the best price/performance card on the market
If you think it won't sell you're delusional
>>343200724
i see zero difference
>>343189993
>(You)
>>343204519
Deluded shills.
oh boy
>>343204602
It's not about power consumption you dumbtron.
It's perf/watt. A metric that can show who has the more eficient and consequently more advanced architecture.
And Nvidia can get 80% more performance from 150W and a chip comparable in size.
>>343204625
>>343204519
off you go little autist
>>343204029
I don't crossfire. I just want a PC that will run recent games out today at max quality 1080P. I have a really large backlog since I almost finished my pre HD6970 backlog. The RX 480 fills that role perfectly
>>343204503
I have no experience with those, but shit implementations can always make for a bad experience no matter what the product and Asus is known for being cheap, not top tier. I don't need to read reviews because I've actually had the chance to work with a UP2715K, an rMPB, and a few others and it's great. Even if Windows still needs to improve a bit that'll come as the hardware becomes more ubiquitous just like on the Mac (or Android or iOS).
This just isn't speculative anon, HiDPI has literally been mainstream for over 4 years.
>>343204764
Doesn't seem like anything new to tech prices.
>>343204519
>similar price
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
also
>>343204757
HAHAHAHAH don't cry my man
>>343204816
Kill yourself anytime
>>343204816
>look at my forums post wew
>>343204858
>HiDPI mainstream
On what field? If I'm editing photograph, wouldn't I benefit more from the extra screen space than having small screen? Where do you need 220ppi on a screen?
>>343204635
Then you are part of the population with at least mild color blindness, probably of the red/green variety (which is the most common). It's a dramatic color shift. If you can't see it yourself open it up in Photoshop or whatever and just sample the colors and see the numbers, or isolate the green channel specifically in each one.
>>343204625
>price/performance
Not really... As many people pointed out, it's about the same price as the 970GTX where they live, so the MSRP is totally off anywhere outside the US.
Moreover the perf benchmarks show similar results between 970GTX and RX480. There is literraly a one percent difference across all tested games...
>>343204941
Over this ? Lmao. Come a bit harder at me. I literaly felt nothing.
>>343204931
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What are you, fucking 12?
>>343204941
That's like two frames dude...
>>343205081
Anedoctal
see >>343203960
>>343205114
You should anyway
>1060 releases
>better perf
>better efficiency
>runs cooler
>supports all games with drivers
AMDone.
>>343205252
Considering the 970 is more expensive and draws more power, sounds good to me
>>343205035
>If I'm editing photograph, wouldn't I benefit more from the extra screen space than having small screen?
I don't know what you're talking about now. HiDPI has nothing to do with screen size, except the limits of manufacturing (which is why it started in handheld, then went to notebooks, then 20-30", and continues to move up, and why at the start of all this I said I'm still waiting another few years).
And as far as "space" please go actually read at least that first Anandtech link, even though it's very old. Even back then, they give a photo application (Aperture) as an example showing non-global backing, as-in you can fit a large image on the screen at 1:1 while still having sharper interface which is useful for text particularly if you use non-English character sets. A 2880x1800 15" screen is better then a low DPI 15" panel.
>>343204006
> DX11 is already there and does the thing fine.
You honestly have no idea what you are talking about. DX11 is not "fine" - why the fuck do you think EA spent so much time (through DICE) backing Mantle in the frostbite engine, it was all to prepare them for the likes of vulkan/DX12 because of the possibilities those APIs have in relation to hardware.
Give this a read.
http://www.gamedev.net/topic/666419-what-are-your-opinions-on-dx12vulkanmantle/#entry5215019
>>343194329
I just upgraded to a 1070 from a 7870. So far I'm pleased with the results in 1080p. I'm gonna go buy a new monitor later once the fucking ocean stops falling from the sky.
Well worth the investment, I can max out Doom now instead of running it on low at ~30 FPS. Overwatch is the same though, but that engine is fucking magic.
>>343205489
Also thread over, so sorry I can't link anything more for you anon. Thanks for at least reading anyway.
>>343187445
>4 fps above the 970
That's it ?
>>343205410
>draws more power
>>343205116
>being this anal destroyed
HAHAHAHA good post, my man, good post.
>>343205990
Techpowerup says otherwise
>>343205378
>$500 price gouging
>>343206062
Reddit is that way, my good man.
It does what the rumors suggested
People had unrealistic expectations for this GPU but I'm not at all disappointed
>>343206197
>Anon gets anally annihilated so badly he should be in a Mike Adrianno film
>>343194918
>tfw no subaru impresa
![RX480_678x452[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DLo97ci.jpg "RX480 678x452[1]")
![UQC9rLp[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/1sD7Gx2.png "UQC9rLp[1]")
