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>>343134639
played the shit out of the first one and later savestated through the rest on an emulator, great music
>>343134639
anime done right
Kinda hard (the first one) when I played it, but that was when it came out. Overall I think the series was good.
>>343134639
>Inti Creates made it therefore it's bad gauys
Why does he wear a diaper
Difficult games with great soundtracks.
>>343131656
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10616176
.
It's nice that you can use cyber elves to make yourself ridiculously OP in 2, but the game will rape your ass and give you an F score for every level if you do.
GOAT game. Played the shit out of it, so fucking fun
I wasn't a fan of the weapon levelling system in 1 and 2 but the games were still fun. 3 and 4 were just right though
Weil was a good final boss
It's fucking great, honestly prefer it to the original megaman games.
>>343136004
If I pulled it off would he die?
>>343134639
They're very high quality games, but I find them too hard to just "pick up and play" due to the emphasis it has on rank, and the penalty for seeking out upgrades (which even if you do want to get, grinding for E-crystals takes forever even with the parry skill some games have)
>>343134639
Got into this series because my friends couldn't beat the first stage and I was the only one that could and he told me I can have it. Middle school was great for vidya.
That first boss was kinda hard. Touching him made you lose lots of health.
>>343134639
I enjoyed the crap out of it, still have the zero collection for the ds.
>>343134639
I don't get why the new moves had to be tied to your ranking, that's just frustrating when you could completely miss out on the thing the whole series is known for.
But overall its a fine series, its got the speed of the X series, and the whole having to remember lay outs of the stage and placements of enemies like the Classic series, so its a nice mix.
My only other problem is the art style, its not bad, but it bugs me because its part of the same timeline as Classic and X, which looked a like, so this is odd because its so different. I'd have less of a problem if this style was used for its own universe, like BN/SF are.
Triple Rod, Chain Rod, or Recoil Rod?
They were good games, I played Zero 1 a lot when I was a kid and then I played them all in the zero collection for DS, those games are the reason my L button stopped working though.
Also Z Saber/Buster master race, everything else is a gimmick.
>>343137991
Chain. It unlocked best form in 2
>>343137991
>no hack of the games to give you all three and the Zero Knuckles
>>343137991
Recoil Rod is the only decent one, Chain Rod is okay but too clunky for me. As for the triple rod
>lol triple rod
>>343138282
This guys knows, though
First megaman game I really got into it.
Holy shit it justified my purchase of a gameboy. The game blew my mind at the time.
>>343137909
>Zero and Ciel are evil versions of Megman and Roll
>X is the 4 guardians.
I want this.
Why was Harpuia so based, /v/?
Is it because he never showed up when he thought there was a chance he'd get his ass kicked so his trash talk was almost justified for everyone but Zero?
Fucking brilliant the pinnacle of the 2D megaman style IMO
>>343138949
>X is the 4 guardians
Mega Man is also standing in for X, seeing as you can see an X shape in his helmet.
MMZero 1 and 2 are great
3 is where the story goes to shit
>>343139159
>Shitting on MMZ3
>Implying literally all of Elpizo didn't make 2's history a fuckery
Nigga, I will fight you
>>343139159
I always skipped through the cutscenes if I could. I've S Ranked every mission in all four games and I still don't know the plot.
>story
>in a mega man game
Lol.
>>343139159
None of the games had a good story. The third game would have been good if not for all that shit with the Dark Elf and magic, but that's about it.
MMZ Zero is a girl! A cute girl!with the mind of a legendary male
>>343139572
The plot is actually fairly nice.
>>343137230
>A challenge is a bad thing
>>343140000
I never said that, I can do A-ranks just fine (S with a few resets), but it's a very specific mindset I have to have towards these games, that I don't need for series like Classic or X (or even ZX/A, which is more difficult than Zero)
nice quads, tho
The only MM series that got better with each game.
>>343134639
Pretty great series.
>>343134639
It's better than nothing.
>tfw you unlocked all the minigames in 3
This game demands absolute perfection, and I love it.
Fun games.
Broke my damn L button on GBA though shit sucks.
>>343139839
It's got some nice twists, likeZero's body being a copy of the original.
>>343138572
I know, specially in the later ones where buster gets upgraded with exploding shots and shit, but they got progressively easier (or you got progressively OP, specially in 3 with the shadow dash).
>>343139839
How do the games rank anyways? First Classic, then X, then MM Zero, then ZX,then Legends?
>>343140539
Wasn't the last game kinda janky? I don't think I've ever beaten that one.
>>343137991
Shield/Buster
>>343141731
The last game was very gameplay sound. "Janky" is not a word I'd use for any of these games, they all play very tight.
>>343141497
>Shadow dash
God DAMN, I loved that thing. Shadow dash + double jump was so satisfying
Honestly the first time I fought Omega's final form I only managed to win because I was so used to using those that I could dash through him and jump over his combos
>>343141731
MMZ4 was pretty phenomenal, you should give it a go. Gameplay was tight.
Mid game boss IS going to fuck you once you get there though. I remember dying so many god damn times when I was younger
Beaten all four but did so without giving a shit about rank. Other then the shitty art everything about the series is high quality.
>>343141892
I remember people complaining about something with it, maybe the weather system? I should probably replay it though.
>>343141463
Explain? Never played the games past x series.
>>343142273
MM Zero is pretty goddamn similar to the X series, definitely recommendable if you're a fan of MMX.
>>343142138
>Other then the shitty art
ayylmao
>>343142143
You basically need to set the weather to favor the boss for it to use the EX skill, and thus learn it yourself. Setting the weather down fucks with the Rank because it makes the stage a cakewalk (no wind or foreground clouds on the Pegasus stage, for example)
>>343142143
That's odd. I guess because EX skills weren't tied to rank in MMZ4. They were tied to the type of Weather you picked for a stage.
>>343134639
Pretty fucking solid, I really loved the first game. To be quite honest I never played 2,3 or 4. Should I give them a go on emulation? I heard they're not quite as good as the first.
>>343142138
>Hating Nakayama's art
wew lad.
>>343142534
>not quite as good as the first
Whoever told you this is a rascal and a liar
I personaly am not fond of 2, but 3 and 4 are phenomenal games, and even 2 is worth playing. Definitely give them a go.
>>343142534
Yes you should play them
2 and 3 improve everything that was in the first game
>want to post favorite tracks
>they are all amazing
the music in this game is special, it's some of the best the GBA hardware has to offer.
>>343134639
failed miserably at playing it when I was a wee lad, but loved it all the same
played it again recently, was able to beat it, loved it. the sequels are great too.
I dont even like megaman games but something about this one was special.
>>343142418
>>343142406
I didn't know you could chose the weather, I also don't remember EX skills being tied to rank in the older games, but I haven't played those in a while.
>>343142534
I remember enjoying 2 and 3 a lot, haven't gotten through 4 though yet.
>>343142138
If they tweaked Zero's design so that he didn't have the diaper he'd look fucking great. His X design was always super goddamn goofy.
>>343142779
You want the best track, you need only ask
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSKk6dtQlLA
>>343142534
Someone bullshitted you.
MMZ got better with every new game go play the rest.
>>343142273
Zero gets a new body between the X series and the Zero series. The last boss of Z3 is some fucker who's using his original one.
It would have been a good way to explain the change in art style, but they just made the original body a palette swap of the normal one. It was kind of a letdown.
>>343142845
>couldn't manage the ball elephant boss as a kid
>skip him my first playthrough
>play the game again years later
>realize you unlock multiple new weapons after beating him
Shit made me feel like an asshole.
>>343134639
>Tfw we will never a HD remake or a spiritual successor(Con-Man)
JUST
>>343142910
>>343142856
>>343142659
>>343142714
Appreciate the replies senpai, I'll try them out later.
>>343142393
>>343142565
Everyone looks 10, toriyama tier sameface, and terrible anatomy.
Speaking of everyone looking 10 I love how everyone in SvC tells zero he looks like a child. Fucking manlet.
>>343143059
>implying con man had anything to do with how MMZ plays
>>343142273When Zero seals himself in X6, the big bad hijacks Zero's real body and leaves him a shitty copy, then he gives the original superpowered body to Omega, the ancient evil sealed away. In the end he destroys his old body to save the day.
Also, why X is Obi-Wan and not kicking ass is because he used his body to seal the other ancient evil the Dark Elf (which is actually a corrupted ancient good). Predictably, the body gets destroyed by resident fuckboi and X slowly fades away at the end of MMZ3
>>343143018
to be fair, he's a bitch to beat first time around. Fucking lard ass can only get hit in the head by a charged attack
>>343142897
>Cannonball
>best
Zero 3 fangays get out. Regardless of what you think about 4, it had hands down the best piece of music in the series.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UNTW8hFcpk
>>343143279
Hey, 4 had some amazing shit too. I'm just fond of cannonball because of the memories
But listening to it again, Falling Down is an even better set up for a final battle
>>343142856
EX skills were tied to rank since 2 onwards. In 2 you had to basically choose between getting an EX skill or a new form, which is the only thing I don't like about that game.
>>343143516
>he didn't get every EX skill and every form in one playthrough
Top kek
>>343143252
>charge saber
>jump
>release
not hard at all
>>343143059
Con Man just takes all the credit for a series he just basically made some doodles for.
Great tetralogy with the perfect ending. The original soundtrack is great, but the arranged soundtracks are even better.
Decent action platformers but fairly underwhelming level design and the emphasis on high scores make it a lower tier Megaman series for me.
>>343143585
>standing around blocking shots with the shield
>getting S ranks
I hate not going fast
>>343143059
there's Gunvolt maybe
>>343143606
Fuck you I was 12 and hadn't played megaman in years
>>343143142
Wasn't Inafune the lead director
He was involved in everything Zero related
>>343143691
The level design in Zero is better than the design in the early X series and the late X series.
>>343143059
ZX/ZX Advent and Gunvolt. Inticreates is still alive even if Mega Man isn't.
>>343143865
lol no
he was the producer on the games and worked on them somewhat. all i ever remember hearing about inafune's direct involvement was that he wanted Zero to be the main character because its his OC.
>>343143760
>No Z-saber
Gunvolt doesn't feel the same
I will never not be butthurt about there being no Guardians fight in Z3. Fighting Phantom was cool as fuck, would have been great to fight the others. As it stands their best fights were in Z2 and then they die at the end of 3.
2>3>4>1 but they're all great.
>>343143279
>mfw during this fight
>The feeling when you finish a boss with a sword attack and they have unique sliced-up death animations
What a feeling
>>343144048
>2 over anything
Why?
Legitimate question
>>343143907
Mid X implies the PS1 games had the best design. I love X4 but it's simpler than X1 or 2 (don't remember 3 very well so I can't judge), X5 is as "paint by numbers X" as you can get, and X6 is a textbook example of bullshit action platformer design. Honestly, X8 is definitely better designed than the latter 2 and almost as well designed as X4, aside from Manowar's stage anyways.
>>343144024
Which is good. The problem I had with ZX was that it was too similar to Zero when Zero was such a huge change to X.
Triple Rod best sub weapon. Make hard mode a cake walk.
Except rainbow devil, fuck that thing.
The only Megaman Series that does absolutely shit the bed at one point, all the games are good though some better than others.
However its highs are not as high as MMX or MM's highs.
>>343144145
Not him but I've always thought two had some of the better stages in the series.
Shame it had the worst boss theme..and final boss.
>>343144297
>does
Should be
>does not
>>343144153
Nah, I was shitting in X6 and X7. I don't remember X8 at all other than I didn't like Zero's attack animation.
X1-X3 had better secret stuff hidden away but I still prefer Zero's level design where things were actually hard to navigate.
>>343144263
Rod>Tonfa>Knuckle>Chain
>>343144263
>Cannot move while attacking
>If you want to use the extended attack you still can't move and just sit there
>range of the first attack is fucking laughable
It's only good for pogo jumping
>>343140476
S Rank Hard Mode runs are the fucking best. When I finally beat MMZ3s final boss with an S rank on hard I could only feel like a true god of death.
I was screaming an autistic mix of excitement and rage as I beat all of those levels.
Fuck the shitters, the art for this series was pretty rad.
>>343144297
>MM's highs
>anywhere near Zero
Nah. Classic Mega Man is completely overrated and outclassed by everything. Except 8 and maybe Rockman/Forte. X is debatable but even the best X games had nuggets of shit in them.
>>343134639
full S ranking the games was really fun and the controls were absolutely flawless. Hands down my favorite Mega Man series.
>>343144145
I felt like it had the most entertaining levels and bosses. There is a great sense of speed, and it was such a step up in terms of smoothing out some of the clunkier aspects of Z1. Zero 3 had more content, true, but it felt so much easier than 2. The only aspect I feel where 2 falls short is in having a shitty final boss; Elpizo is a fine character but he's just so brainlessly easy to the point where I feel like they fucked up on designing him or his arena.
But yeah, 2 just has a bunch of great memorable shit for me. The opening stage having Zero 1's menu before you get upgraded at the resistance base, for example, or the Beetle Bros boss battle.
>>343144297
>>343144527
>muh favorite series is better than your favorite series
Can we just not? Please?
>>343144461
The DS collection is objectively the best version of the games
The music has higher quality
>>343140476
I liked how friendly the Zero games were to both styles of play though. Its not like you really lose anything by not getting S ranks because it opens your loadout to elves. Because of the severe rank penalty for using them they're something that you can use if you're not a hardcore gamer.
You only need to S-Rank for EX Skills anyway and most of them are fucking useless.
>>343144527
Megaman 9 is legitimately amazing, I'd honestly say its my favorite classic game.
Megaman and Bass is great but its so fucking hard.
>And then Zero became MD Giest.
Best ending.
>>343144461
Bought the design works book, its so fucking gorgeous. Plus its fun seeing the unused stuff like the different Wiel designs.
>>343144794
9's definitely better than 2 or any of the NES games. 2 is such a fucking meme I don't understand why people love it so much. 4 is my personal favorite of all NES style games though.
>>343144786
You also get four elves in 2 and 3 that boost your rank to A so you can pick up some ex skills. People can complain but I think its a pretty fair system.
The MMZ games had some of the best moments I've ever had in a video game. The start of 2 was especially good after finishing the first game.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5QvALaSp-U plays
>Your Status screen is MMZ1 but more fucked up
>>343143247
Zero was give a back up body by some resident scientist. The real body still had Zero's corrupt mind in it andIn their fight, Omega Zero probably is Zero with all reason torn out of him
I played the megaman zero collection for ds a while ago - I can't remember why but I beat the first 3 and stopped playing on the 4th because it was just completely fucked.
>>343135917
i enjoyed Azure Striker Gunvolt
mediocre games worshipped by manchildren
>>343137138
it would be extremely___lewd
>>343144806
>Z2 starts and he's STILL fighting.
>Keep killing the pantheons and he says it's not fun anymore
>The pause screen is a degraded version of Z1, exclusive for that level alone.
>The boss fight theme is a remix of the first one, later used for minibosses
All that detail in one introduction.
>>343145212
4 has arguably the best final boss in the series. Kraft is a great fight too but such a cunt on hard mode.
>>343145212
That was what I did when I first played the games. After getting the DS collection years later and and actually finishing the series, I actually really enjoyed 4. I don't know what it was that put me off about it the first time, but you might want to give it another shot somewhere down the line.
So, let me just get one thing off my chest
Fuck 4's crafting recipe shit with a cactus. Seriously, fuck it. All of it.
>>343144786
What do the EX skills even do? I never unlocked them.
Fucking cunts never made anything as good as Zero or Legends
Why are good games not made anymore
>>343145450
I never bothered with it. But I get how you feel.
>>343145490
They're extra abilities, essentialy. It's the serie's version of the whole "steal the boss's attack" thing.
Welp, I'm gonna buy this beautiful bastard on Friday. Thanks /v/.
>>343145016
4 is the best, it ties with 9 in my opinion. 2 is pretty good but too easy, still fun to just pick up and play.
4=9>1=2=MM&B>3>10>6>7>8>5
>>343145490
Extra moves and shot types like in Megaman X.
Zero gets moves
X gets weapons
in this he gets both.
>>343145678
damn, that looks really good. How much do these go for anyway?
>>343145678
Get these too.
Post yfwOmega third phase
>>343145885
$35 on Amazon.
>>343144806
>>343145304
Probably headcanon but I felt like after he fucked with Neo Arcadia, the Pantheons constantly tracked him down so he never returned to the resistance base. When Harpuia found him, s/he called off the pantheons.
>>343145925
>sprite is just a recolor of zero and not the X series zero
Only flaw.
Excluding final bosses, what were the best bosses in each game?
To me it goes
>Fafnir
>Beetle bros
>Copy-X Mk II
>Mino Magnus
The bull just always gave me a chuckle
>>343146093
Fuck you guys, holy shit. Every thread one of you has to say this. It always has been just a different art style, it always will be.
>>343143415
>those mad hips
this pic is making my dick confused.
>>343146142
I'm almost like you.
Just replace Maguns with Craft.
>Fernir is based off Gaia Armor
>Harpuia is based off Falcon Armor
>Phantom is based off Shadow Armor
>Leviathan is based off...
>Yfw you first killed a boss with the Z-Saber
>>343146142
Phantom
Beetle Bros
Copy x
Kraft
>>343134639
fantastic
one of my favorite games
I greatly enjoyed everything about it, even the atmosphere, which is usually a nonfactor for me
I just played through azure gunvolt striker froom steam sale, the change to "quickness and score' instead of "Just get through it at any cost" is ....different, not at all what I was expecting.
I find myself still having fun, just wish I had more "jump up in an enemies face and smash their shit wiuth a sword". Also, since you start the game with prevasion, every stage can be very easily trivially run through for the first completion if you don't care. Kind of feels a bit imbalanced.
>>343146356
Honestly shit like the opening with the blood geysers and the elephant boss's sprite blew my mind as I had only recently gotten a GBA.
>>343145332
>>343145432
I likely will get around to replaying it soon - I think it was some desert area that was just pissing me the fuck off. I did emulate it years ago and beat it but I like the ds versions better since you can't save scum and have to git gud.
>>343146356
I always make a point of finishing bosses of with a saber slash.
>>343146093
>>343146202
It bothered me too dude, I would have loved to have fought against something that looked like OG Zero.
Still, fight was legit as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5QvALaSp-U
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AXAg53LIvfA
This battle took me by surprise the first time. After getting the omega form I never used anything else though.
>>343146142
>Harpunia
>Phoenix Magnion
>Phantom
>Weil first phase
>>343134639
Only played 1 and it was great. I need to emulate the rest.Who else jacked off to Ciel as a kid?
>>343146142
Anubis Necromances
Panter Fauclaws
Deathtanz Mantisk
Heat Gemblem
All the boss fights were very well done, IMO. I don't think there's a single bad one.
>>343144461
>The EU cover art for Zero 3 is a hilariously poor trace of the JP cover art
>>343146316
>Leviathan's only good doujin has futa Ciel
I just wanted a good fap, not this shit.
>>343144417
>Not attacking during dash jumps
>Not one-shotting grunts
>Not stun locking Harpy into a corner with repeated face stabs.
>Not luring Blizzack Staggroff and stabing his ass repeatedly during the ice beam
>Not pogo jumping of the top of Copy X's angel form.
You missed out, anon. I'm only sad I couldn't finish hard mode in a hour.
>>343146792
Futa ruins so much porn that could have been good.
>>343146316
Probably the ultimate armor, her second form in MMZ2 reminded me a lot of the super dash you did in MMX4-6
>>343146792
It can't be helped.
friendly reminder that esperanto is the best zero theme
https://youtu.be/zRAjiv23A3M
>>343144417
8-direction 3 hit combos are fun to play around with.
>>343146683
I jacked off toPrairie
>>343146709
I will never forgive them for translating Mythoid as Mutoid. Mutoid sounds retarded and they're all based off mythlogical figures or legends.
>Auto-Charge chip and Spinning Shield in MMZ 3.
man, I played this series dozens of times by now and I still find something stupid and fun to do. Shield was so much fun in MMZ 3.
>>343146683
>>343147103
I jacked off to both
Say what you will about the art, the boss designs were the best in the series, a trait that extended to ZX and ZXA.
Every time I play X games, I just think "man, Zero did this A LOT better".
>>343146967
Please post more of her.
>>343146720
>Be Amerifat
>Euros get a bad cover art for once
>It's just a trace of better art
Amerifat is suffering.
>>343146683
She was just too damn cute
I like and care about them more than I ever did about megaman. But I haven't replayed since I was a kid. Don't you have some insane fight with X? There's a space elevator at one point, and 2 has a God tier song. I need to get that collection before the price jumps again.
>>343147383
I don't have very much anon.
>>343147437
For some reason this generation of gaming had a lot of shitty Mega Man internationally boxart.
>>343146356
>different death animations play depending on what you hit them with
Really such a fucking great detail. The fights in MM Zero just make you feel so badass.
Z saber best weapon.
>>343147451
>fight with x
copy x, in 1 and 3
>space elevator
did you confuse it with x8?
>2 has a god tier song
zero's soundtrack as a whole is pretty rockin
>>343147124
Fefnir instead of Fafnir is even worse. Couldn't they have just asked what his name was instead of guessing and fucking it up?
>>343134639
I hate the art of it so much that I refuse to play it.
>>343147368
I love that every boss has two sets of eyes.
>>343147451
You fighta copy ofX in the first game with a balls to the wall final form. And you later fight him again in 3 as a really fun midgame boss.
The space elevator is the fight in 3.
>>343135917
Well, it's true. Inti Creates has never made a good game.
>>343134639
After Mega Man X4, they seemed to realize that they'd need to shake up the formula somehow to keep it from going stale, and what they came up with just didn't really do it.
Then, the Zero series was the truly inventive successor that X needed. Nice and challenging too, probably the closest thing to a handheld cuhrayzee out there.
>>343147539
>That fucking left eye on Zero for EU 3
>>343147539
>zero doesn't actually dual wield sabers
>x only one on x7 cover even though you don't have him for the majority of the game
>axl in front focus on command mission
what the fuck
>>343147613
Fefnir reminds me more of Fenrir. That might have been what they were going for.
>>343147736
I cant unsee that shit and I dont want to.
>>343147064
The cannonbal remix is better but shit damn.
>tfw Mythos Zero will never be playable in a official game.
>>343147492
Oh, okay. Leviathan is very underrated.
>>343146720
>those eyes
A human being approved that.
>>343147962
Indeed.
I remember Zero Collection's e-reader bonuses made Z3 incredibly easy. When I got to Omega and Weil was taunting about how Zero is only a cheap copy I was just thinking "bitch please this ultimate mode Zero can orobably kill Omega in under 2 seconds".
>>343146720
How is that acceptable? Like Goddamn.
>>343146709
>looking up these boss fights
>remember that you can charge and use 2 weapons separately
Holy fuck that's like a perfect mechanic.
>>343147953
maverick hunter x styled zero remakes with more mythos material (artwork and soundtracks) would be fucking great
but too bad we cant have nice things
>>343147571
>Killing a boss in ZX Advent with a charge buster
It's the little things
I think one of my favorite things about the Zero series is that it has a conclusion. You can argue about 4 being bleh or not (I personally like it), but what I think is great is that each game builds and has events and moments that are important. For example, the resistance attack on 2 is taken advantage of by Weil in 3. And Zero had actual character development, choosing to sacrifice himself to give humanity a chance. Shit is great, we only ever got a MM conclusion with Battle Net and everything else is a cliffhanger.
>>343148289
>tfw only used zx form in advent
i'm way too used to the zero playstyle especially since i've done it since x4
>>343147962
She probably has the most fanart out of any MM Zero charecter.
>>343147368
They do look fucking fantastic. Like a perfect mix of classic style and new and they're all slick as fuck looking.
Also are the ZX games easy to emulate?
>>343148357
I had a feeling that Zero's motives for sacrificing himself was less for the people and more for making sure that Weil just fucking dies already.
>>343148706
>Weil just fucking dies already.
>ZX happens.
>His soul fucking lives on in model w
So much for that.
>>343148706
im pretty sure it was also because killing weil would be better for humanity
>>343148706
He obviously cared about Ciel at the very least. Big change from the first game.
>>343148706
>He doesn't and makes everything worse
>>343148904
>>343148792
>>343148859
Fair enough. Zero though, was an angry motherfucker that liked to kill shit.
>>343148706
He just wanted to fucking kill Weil, also cared for Ciel.
Which made me sad for some reason
>>343148976
>we will never know what happens after ZXA since it didn't sell well enough to get a sequel
I forget but did Zero fully get his memories back during the series?
>>343149232
No. But he gets over it.
>>343134639
I prefered the sequal series ZX personally.
Story wise Zero was kind of shit after 2. Gameplay was very solid and fun throughout the series.
>>343148357
The consistent story does help it a lot. Most MM games just feel like you retreading the same territory but with MM Zero it feels a bit more fluid and consistent.
Dislike the story focus, and npcs would rather just pick a boss and kick his ass
Also Zero himself a shit
>>343149556
<--- Fuck this boss
>>343147368
Isn't that one in particular based on the unused Armed Phenomenon for Phantom? I remember reading it somewhere
>>343149364
>X doesn't have a diaper
and he looks so much better because of it, goddamn.
>>343149678
Not official but cute
>>343134639
I disliked how difficult the games were and then punished you for using Cyber Elves, a core mechanic the story of all the games revolve around. I hated the ranking system and how the hide unlocks like sabre combos. I loathed that rank was permanent and followed you for every mistake or unwise choice you made in the game.
I like the art and the gameplay was great, Recoild Rod being a blast, but the rank system ruined it for me. This is coming from a guy who held S rank throughout the entire trilogy (played like the first stage of Z4, fuck that game) and beat Omega with no subtanks for the enitire game. I spent more time reseting than playing how I want to play. ZXA rekindled my love for megaman. I like platforming, not getting the best score.
>>343149857
I didn't mind rank. But I can see how others would be annoyed by it.
>>343134639
1st one was total shit but at the same time I wish they kept the mission system instead of just going into pure Megaman 2 hugbox mode like every Megaman series besides Battle Network/Legends.
At least they kept the hub.
>>343145925
>>343146093
Im still mad about that
>1 is good
>2 is a bit better
>3-4 are great
Also the screen is too small for it's own gameplay. They want you to memorize entire stage layouts and basically do it half-blind if you actually dash a lot. Which I did, I got perfect ranks but it felt very clunky at times.
>>343149678
What did he mean by this?
>>343149742
I don't know if it's explicitly stated that Hellbat is based off of it, but they do look similar
>>343150327
I wanted Zero to at least hug Ciel, men I got denied pretty hard
So there is a ds compilation of all these games? I feel I need them - played the first as a kid and liked it now adult me needs to get my filthy hands on all of them
>>343150503
>>343150495
Fuck dude I was about to post that
>>343150543
https://www.amazon.com/Mega-Man-Zero-Collection-Nintendo-DS/dp/B003FBL86Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467176199&sr=8-1&keywords=megaman+zero+collection
Get it
>>343150543
Indeed there is - the aptly named Mega Man Zero Collection. I don't even think it's that hard to find a copy!
>>343150505
I wanted Zero to at leastfug Ciel. Pretty unrealistic, I know, but I still wanted it.
>>343150690
Just realized Ive yet to dump 4
>>343141979
>using any upgrades or EX skills to defeat Omega
Casual trash detected.
>>343146604
I never gave ZX a chance because I always get lost too easily on metroidvania style platformers. Maybe I should give it a shot a gain.
>>343149274
I actually go MMZ2 first because my mom found a cartridge once. I played it for a long time, unable to even beat the first level. Finally I was able to beat it and 3 of the next bosses, except I could never beat him. A couple years later when I found it, I was finally able to beat him. He's still my favorite boss and my favorite level.
>>343151029
ex skills were great b/c it's just like it was in the x series
>>343151051
> I always get lost too easily on metroidvania style platformers
You're really, really going to need this map then
>>343151301
>run out of lives
>have to travel all the way back from base
I couldn't deal with this shit as a kid
thank fuck for save states
>artstyle is waaay too good
>>343151252
Hard mode is where the series lives. These days if I play through MMZ, I have to go Hard because Normal is too easy with the EX skills.
>>343134639
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbTgL7wSKts
>>343151660
>>343151582
I always push it in every thread cause Im a fucking loser but do a Hardmode S rank run.
>>343134639
Thought it was ok enough, but I found the difficulty to be horribly unbalanced in places. Like I wouldn't ever call it unfair, but at the same time it felt like they intentionally made shit harder than it had to be if that makes any sense.
Cyber elves suck shit though and grinding for that nonsense really killed the momentum of the first 2 games.
>>343134639
3 > 2 = 4 > 1. All great though. I hope ASG 2 doesn't take too long to be localized.
>>343151859
Imma leave with this cause Im fucking tired. G'night you acceptable bunch of homos.
>>343151774
Already did years ago. These days I don't have time to restart missions for an S-rank every time, so an A-rank is fine.
>>343134815
Hey me, how's it goin? Also did anyone else realize how the intro levels for each game progressively got more crazy?
>>343148416
My main peeve with ZXA is how broken Model ZX is. It's charged buster is comparble to sabre slashes but at a safe range and good charge time. I get that the Psuedoroids are mainly for platforming, but ZX damage output, considering it's speed and options, is riduculous. I like using Atlas and Thetis, but ZX simply clears rooms faster.
>>343144263
Triple Rod isn't actually that great. There's a much better trick that uses the Shield Boomerang with Z-Saber using B-type weapon controls.
You attack the boss with the Z-Saber, then immediately tap the Shield button to cancel the boss i-frames. If you alternate rapidly enough, you can get like four hits in under 1 second.
>>343138949
That happened In the manga you know. the 4 guardians combine into X. shit was goofy
>>343152162
>Wake up in an underground lab and shoot your way out
>Chased by an army, fight a giant scorpion
>Find a crashed ship, fight a terror of a past civil war
>Fight on top of a convoy jumping from truck to truck
I can kinda see that.
>>343144461
it always bothered me that the DS collection censored shit. I mean it wasnt too significant but it bothered me on principle
>>343152168
>My main peeve with ZXA is how broken Model ZX is.
Do you mean ZX? Advent doesn't give you Model ZX until quite late in the game.
>>343152406
I thought the GBA ones were censored but the DS collection was uncensored.
>>343152162
3's wasn't that zany. You just fight some stuff in a ship.
>>343152601
Nah. The DS version censors blood and mentions of death.
>>343146093
>>343146536
>>343150368
It was done that way for a reason. Omega actually has a lot of unique sprites. He even holds his gun differently
It was done for a much better mirror battle. if it was Zero series Zero vs X series Zero there is no symmetry and therefore less impact to the fact that Omega is identical to Zero in every way, but by his deeper color and X series movies, is the OG deal.
>>343142897
>>343143279
Ice Brain is fucking great too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbE5-Obh7RU
>>343152601
the DS further censors the blood in Z1, and changes certain words around. IIRC mentions of "death" are changed to "destruction" or something stupid like that. it pissed me off because of how stupid it was.
I played the shit out of them, they're a masterpiece, fast paces, great OST, decently hard, great replay value, it did everything right.
Slashing shit as Zero is so damn satisfying too.
>>343152832
"retirement."
really.
it's incredibly awkward to read.
>>343134639
needs more bestiality porn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VRUBV7ccsw
this shit is still great
>>343152832
Well atleast you know they actually did something with the games insted of just downloading 4 roms and sticking them into a DS cartridge.
>>343152832
I'm guessing no one made a decensor patch?
>>343153295
but thats all they needed to do.
thats like saying "well at least the waiter only pissed in my drink instead of bringing it over unaltered"
>>343153208
>that projection of x!zero following zero after he gets motivated
>x!zero appearing once again for zero's final blow on omega
that shit was pure fanservice of the best kind.
>>343153452
Yeah true.
Are the games supposed to be this fucking hard?
>>343146792
That's why you must be flexible with your fetishes.
Gimme that doujin
>/v/ unanimously praising a game
WHAT HAPPENED?
>>343137909
You're supposed to keep looping the game and picking up items you missed on subsequent playthroughsand you know git gud. If you want to complain about a feature that makes no sense it's the cyber fairies which have no use to anyone whose intent is to play well and be rewarded for it.
>>343153685
Let me guess. The first real boss kicked your ass in Zero 1.
>>343153708
We always priased this game, you just have shit taste.
>>343153685
Inti Creates, when making Megaman generally only knows 2 settings.
Hard, and bullshit.
>>343153708
>le /v/ hates games meme
Kill yourself.Yeah, /v/ has a lot of vitrol.
>>343153754
Yeah what's up with that, if you use the Cyber Elves, your rank gets down, that's stupid.
I loved the Elves that changed your rank to A though, they were good to get all the best moves without doing the stages over and over again for a good rank.
>>343153872
>dying to aztec fagcon
So, the DS collection is the ideal way to go? I never had the opportunity to play any of the Mega Man Zero games before.
>>343153872
no, the green bastard was easy, its more of the levels themselvesI just want a heath bar upgrade
>>343134639
It's GOOD.
>>343153754
>>343154000
The fairies are just for people that aren't gud enough at the game.
The Zero series isn't as hard as people seem to think they are, I just find it frustrating to have to load my save if I die in a level and do it all over.
Its still retarded no matter how you try to spin it for you to have to get a S or A rank just to learn a new skill, when again, this is something the series is known for.
i lost count of the number of times i died to aztec falcon
is it just me, or is zero 1 a cut above the other games in terms of raw difficulty
>>343154020
you can find quite a few health upgrades - they hurt your rank, but in z1 that doesn't matter
remember the good ol days when we knew nothing about ZX and people thought Giro was actually Zero
>>343154045
Your skill at video games is retarded.
>>343154159
what do they look like?
>>343154018
Just saying. It's pretty common(Or least it used to be)
>>343154020
Oh they can be pretty bullshit.>I just want a heath bar upgrade
Are you willing to suck up your pride in rank anon? If so you use the cyber elves.
>>343154192
I'm sorry anon.
>>343149274
Man
FUCK THIS GUY
>>343149274
>>343154316
his gimmick was cool though
>>343154185
>just ended up being a throwaway zero lookalike
i was pretty upset about that because i really liked that model z giro design
Here's the link to this and other Megaman series art books. Kind of wish it had the ZX series art books(if it exist).
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/3pdijxesq811i/artbooks
One day, I will S Rank every level
One day...
>>343154265
It's okayjust kidding lol
Incredibly overrated, horrifyingly shitty artstyle and every weapon was terrible. Literally every weapon, even the fucking sword sucks shit. The entire game is just ugly as all fuck and the fucking weird god-animal designs of the bosses was just lame. The best part is that when you get to meet the 'real' Zero they just recolored the stupid MMZ Zero instead of trying to look like the old design at all. Fuck I hate those fucking games.
>>343149274
>>343154415
>Vile, Agile, Bit, and Colonel attack you
>They aren't redesigned for MMZ
>>343154606
and there's our first one
>>343154626
they aren't redesigned because they were long dead by the time zero happened.
>>343154198
They're cyberelves you have to find. They look like floating balls of light and pop out of enemies and certain boxes. You have to feed them energy crystals at a transserver to actually be able to use them, though.
>>343154465
I remember that 25th anniversary event. It was the release of Star Force and they had an Inafune thing at a gamestop in NY. There were quite a few people lined up. Got a neat T-Shirt and that card both signed by Inafune. Y'know, back when we still liked him.
They'd take your photo too, but they rushed people and my photo came out blurry.
still, shit was worth it. It was fun. I even met Terra Stardroid. yknow, from that webcomic.
>>343154876
But in universe everyone looks the same, the redesign is just for us the viewer.
>>343154479
>got 100 points on every level on Zero 1
>except the last level
JUST
>>343154465
There's no ZX artbook, unfortunately
>>343154943
The cyber elves are the health upgrades?
So I need to basically farm for certain ones?
>>343154981
thats bullshit im pretty sure. Its a bit of both- they redesigned Zero to make him stand out from X series Zero, but at the same time, handwaved it as "technological progression." In fact, the reason X was redesigned the way he was for Command Mission, was because when the artist was told it was 22XX, he thought it was something in the Zero series timeframe. And Command Mission DOES have a few much slimmer bots. Marino comes to mind
>>343155124
No, you need to FIND them, then raise them, and THEN use them. You're better off just getting good.
>>343155162
>thats bullshit im pretty sure.
Seeing as Omega is using Zero's original body, and Zero went to sleep with his X2 onward body, its not as bullshit as you think.
>>343155272
Zero's seal in X6 is also before the Elf wars. We know scientists experimented on Zero's body, and considering they had eventually cracked it finally, its not strange to think they upgraded him, and that the copy body was designed after the upgraded one.
I dont think we're supposed to REALLY think about it too deeply.
>>343146356
I like how ZX expanded on that. Finish off a boss with a charged buster and they get a gaping hole.
>>343155124
IIRC, there are 5 cyber-elves that increase your health; 4 of them add a bit of health to your bar and 1 adds another layer to it, like the bosses have. There are also other elves that make you take less damage, remove spikes, and stuff. There are 3 ways of getting cyber-elves: 1) Beating bosses/ completing missions, 2) Finding them in boxes scattered around the world, and 3) Killing a certain amount of an enemy type in a mission. You have to do this during the mission, you can't go back later and do it.
>>343155081
>There's no ZX artbook, unfortunately
I'm going to need to borrow that noose when you're done with it.
>>343146720
Is he looking in two different directions?
>>343145678
2 hours late but, I have him I'm not sure if it's just mine, but be warned the hair falls out all the time, can get pretty annoying.
>>343155162
Egoraptor tier art.
>>343134639
My favorite megaman series of all time. I liked playing as Zero more than X and the story gave me deep feels
>>343148672
I've emulated them fine. But I think you have to use a special version of desume in order to emulate putting the zero games in the GBA slot.
Is Jackson even a real thing or is it just an internet THAT KID story about Zero 1? Because I remember looking up what to do to unlock that and doing it, but it never unlocked anything.
>>343156439
That makes sense, since he drew that.
>>343156439
>Egoraptor tier art.
Not that anon, but that's because Egoraptor drew it.
http://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/egoraptor/mariiiinnnooooo
>>343158089
The elf? Yeah's it's legit but you gotta go though a lot of hoops to get it.
Also it doesn't even do much. It makes you invincible for a few seconds.
>>343146316
Blade Armor.
>>343147690
MegaMan 9 and 10 are good.
>>343158305
I just want it for completion's sake. I've already S Ranked everything in every Zero game on hard, even unlocked all the minigames in, I want to say but I can't remember for sure, 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRMz03IGYOA
I love the shit people make
>>343160241
Those voices are from the drama CD, an official work. They're pretty cool.
