Irithyll and everything related to it was hands down the best part of Dark Souls 3. Prove me wrong.
I wish it was more populated. Could've had frosted residents, instead of a few soldiers spotted here and there.
I liked Lothric Castle more in terms of level design, and Cathedral of the Deep was cooler in terms of atmosphere.
>>343118498
This part of the game gave me a really good Central Yharnam feel, i wish it was longer.
>>343119251
This. The level design of the first part of Irithyll is too linear and horizontal even compared to Lothric. Why the hell were those streets so wide? Dark souls 3 doesn't have the evasion mechanics of Bloodborne, which made sense in bloodborne because there was no blocking and the sidesteps covered more ground than rolls do in Dark Souls, and too often DaS3 had those wide as fuck paths for no reason. Irithyll was just a boring area with not a lot going on. But of course memers will disagree because muh fight club.
>>343118498
>hands down the best part of Dark Souls 3
thats not saying much tbhm8
>>343118498
I can agree, but i enjoyed the undead village a lot more.
>>343118498
>500+ hours in DeS
>800+ hours in DaS
>36 hours in DaSII
>300+ hours in BB
>60+ hours in DaSIII
what went wrong?
>>343121119
ds3 hasnt been out anywhere near as long as the rest of those save for ds2
>>343121119
No DLC yet
>>343118498
Game was shit get over it.
>>343121348
>>343121480
but im p much done with it until m8s. dont feel like playing. dlc might add about 10 hours per release at best.
>>343118498
Are you fucking kidding me? It's just a straight line. People always take a screen shot of the scene you see after Big Skele Man and say "Wow best area :^^^^^)" but that screen shot is the ONLY good thing about the area
>>343121348
i have 300 hours on ds3 tho
>>343118498
Cathedral was the best in terms of level design though.
>>343121639
actually true
>>343121793
Eh, I'll agree with that.
Cathedral is fun.
Why is dark souls 3 so fucking linear?
>>343122128
There's nothing wrong with linear. Not everything has to be LE WIDE OPEN WORLD XDDD
Best area is undead settlement, multiple paths, verticality
>>343122238
So it's either linear or open world in your simple mind? Adorable
It certainly had the best boss
>>343118498
This game has fucking awful level design.
It's literally just a giant corridor.
Bloodborne as far as I'm concerned is the real sequel to DaS.
Demons > Dark > Blood
These three games are the only ones that matter.
>>343122376
It's a tie between undead settlement and cathedral for me. Road of sacrifices being in-between the two is nauseating, but generally, the first quarter or so of DaS3 is really fun to run through. The rest can suck my hairy nuts
>>343122661
DS3 in general BTFO DS1 & DS2 in terms of boss fights.
>>343122661
Prince lothric was the coolest. Not the hardest, but the coolest.
>>343122875
But they're all easy as shit
>>343122875
I agree, it is the best thing it has going for it.
Apologize.
>>343121119
>300 hours in DeS
>150 hours in DaS
>80 hours in DaS2
>25 hours in three DS2 DLCs
>60 hours in BB
>30 hours in BB DLC
>50 hours in DS3 so far
Not too bad to be honest. More than I put in for other games.
>>343123001
>hard=good
literally every single time
>>343123001
Still a lot more challenging than every boss fight in DS1 aside from O&S.
>Hello sir, I would like to visit the cathedral
>The cathedral, you say? Why, just follow this road to the right, wind all the way around to the Church of Yorshka at the opposite side of town, passing through the courtyard of the cathedral which we lowered by 25 feet, make your way through the pitch black wine cellar off the road dug out of the side of the church, (bring a torch! and watch out for those ethereal undesireables), take the stairs down to our lovely ice-cold river, and hang a left into the sewers. You'll pop right into one of our finest estates via its kitchen, then all you have to do is take the stairs up!
bullshit
who even lives in these cities
>>343123068
Sorry you were literal garbage made by incompetent B-Team rejects.
>>343123091
>sub 1000 hours in all of them
>having an opinion
wow
>>343122875
This. Pic related is my favorite boss fight in the entire series.
>>343122702
>>343123298
Well, I'm not a desperate PCFat who has to spent millions of hours on his only three decent games.
>>343123353
>*teleports behind you" - The fight
>enemies that never stop attacking
>Crocodogs with non-euclidean hitboxes
>linear progression
>>343122875
It's basically like this
>Level Design
DS1 >>>>>> DS3 > DS2
>PvE
DS3 > DS1 >> DS2
>PvP
DS2 >> DS1 >>>> DS3
>Atmosphere
DS1 >>> DS3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DS2
>Bosses
DS3 >>>>>> DS1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DS2
>>343123397
>>343123517
This is actually objectively correct. Well done.
cathedral was literally the only memorable place
>>343122661
>parry everything flawlessly or circlestrafe with a tower shield or you're fucking dead, kiddo
He was bullshit, I felt no satisfaction killing him.
>>343121119
120+ at DeS
1500+ at DaS
700+ at DaS2
800+ at BB
300+ at DaS3
>>343123649
rolling required ahead
>>343123552
>>343123397
>>343122702
Is it just me or does Bloodborne look undeniably better graphics-wise than DaS III
>>343123353
I fucking loved this fight.
In fact, I loved most boss fights in this game simply because it made me discard shields and rely more on rolling. I felt like I ruined my first experience in DS1 since circle strafing with a shield was too viable against way too many bosses and completely ruined most of the challenge. DS3 on the other hand more or less forced you to learn to roll because most bosses shat all over shields.
>>343123742
>judging graphics from a 450p webm
>>343122702
>Demons > Dark > Blood
>These three games are the only ones that matter.
I agree tee bee aich. It's the true Miyazaki games and the ones he wanted to make, not due to contractual obligations and without inputs from B-Team.
DaS3 is still a good game though. It's just the literal artforms that DeS, DaS and BB are.
>>343123742
Because it is.
It has worse image quality in screenshots though, because chromatic aberation when not in motion just looks aids. DaS3 has slightly better AA I think.
However the actual shaders, geometry, textures and lighting in BB are way, way better. Mainly because From only had to make it for one platform and were guaranteed X amount of ram etc.
DaS3 had to account for Xbone.
>>343122702
Where did this video come from? I've never seen Bloodborne run at this framerate.
>>343123742
They look the same, only difference being BB utilizes way more blur than DS3.
My biggest grip with BB is that the coolest weapons are all super late in the game.
And bosses are in sane damage sponges in NG+, especially the DLC bosses.
>>343123946
god it looks so fucking good
>>343123969
Captured via capture card from my PS4. Black bars to save on data per frame so webm compression doesn't rape it as hard.
The game has a much better framerate than PS4 DaS3 does. Going back to BB after DaS3 was very noticeably smoother. Not sure if they made it even better in a recent BB patch.
>>343123946
From had nothing to do with the superior quality of BB. That's Japan Studio magic.
>>343118498
>Irithyll and everything related to it was hands down the best part of Dark Souls 3. Prove me wrong.
Pontiff Sullyvan + Irythill Dungeon
>>343123552
who cares about all that fancy movement when all you need are quick basic R1s/L1s from the cleaver?
itt; pc cucks who never played bloodborne
>>343123517
>people keep praising DS1 level design even though almost everything after Anor Londo is pure garbage in terms of level design
>>343124258
Yes but you get to head in multiple directions anon
>>343123969
>can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps by eye
>>343123742
yes. bb looks about five times more polished than das3 does. i really wish das3 got the sheen that bb did. das3's world also feels really empty compared to bb. i also hate das3's colour palette and gross piss filter.
>>343124236
>Who cares when you can just mash X to win entire Tekken Arcade as Hwoarang?
Because style points and maximizing your gains per input. Instead of wearing out my R1 button and using more finger movements, I can use less and do more.
>>343124258
It's a literal meme. They only like the world layout, not the individual level design.
I just ran passed everything up to sulyvahn
>>343123709
>dodge/roll all his attacks
>watch as he follows up with yet another hit in a stupid long combo when you run out and have to let it regen
>manage to finally dodge them all successfully and watch as he runs away out of your range forcing you to close the gap and start his infinite combo chain again
yea no. Sillyman was garbage, and factor in the bullshit surrounding poise meant blocking one good hit meant your stamina was fucked, and whiffing a parry meant game over.
>>343123742
I'd say they're about equal as far as lighting and engine stuff is concerned. DS3 has the benefit of higher resolutions and framerate though
>>343123774
>roll behind boss for cheap shots instead of circlestrafe with giant shields for cheap openings
is it really a difference though?
>>343124483
but you dont really do more m8. i could kill those goons in that webm much faster with the cleaver rather than do all that unneeded added nonsense. it's much more efficient.
>>343124801
Rolling requires some level of timing and reflex. Circlestrafe with a shield is about as mundane as it gets.
>>343124712
You don't need to roll into him using invincibility frames for all his swings you know. Just stand outside his range and then run in to hit him a few times after one of his combos and then back out.
>>343118498
It was the reused assets area and it felt cheap and plastic to me.
>>343123920
>*it just isn't the literal artforms...
I must sleep.
Undead Settlement is the best area of DaS3. Try proving me wrong
>>343124808
Nah. Trick weapon movesets when used properly can dispatch multiple enemies much faster than having to walk up to each one and R1. R1 spam also puts you more at risk to getting hit from the side by another enemy because you've locked and focused on one guy.
Unlocked + full movset use is god teir.
>>343125295
the only part of das3 i'd call truly good is the entire area above the dancer boss. that whole section leading up to dragon barracks and beyond is fantastic and is from at their. it's like from suddenly returned to form there. most of the game was alright but that shit was amazing.
>>343118498
I loved how the boreal valley was just below anor londo. I beat Aldrich last night finally. Fuck that gay ass bitch in his maggot asshole. Faggot nigger he is. His
>>343125435
>Trick weapon movesets when used properly
cleaver is a trick weapon
>much faster than having to walk up to each one and R1
cleaver's L1 attack is across wide range and it staggers. nobody said spam r1. I speedrun this game. cleaver is the best weapon and i'm much better than you.
>>343125784
Of course the cleaver is a good weapon.
But it's boring as shit and in PVP especially is useless parry bait.
Saw Spear, is a much much better weapon, it has an actual range of a moveset and is also good in pvp.
>>343125535
Aldritch felt like such an RNG boss. I beat him on my first try in NG but in NG+ he raped me so fucking hard with his arrow spamming even though I didn't even see it once in NG.
![[Laughter Stops].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KNOlEjq.jpg "[Laughter Stops].jpg")
>>343124158
>And bosses are in sane damage sponges in NG+
I got through like half of NG+ in a single afternoon. I dunno if it was because I got gud or if I farmed chalice dungeons like an autist but I pretty much ripped through everything like it was made of wet tissue paper.Still had some trouble with the DLC though.
>bloodborne
>good
this meme again kek
>>343121119
series fatigue
There's also not much content, and after mastering the mechanics you just blow through the game in a day.
>>343122376
agreed
>>343123664
1500 hours in a single not very long videogame. Jesus the autism is powerful in you,
>>343126874
>enjoying a game for longer than its predicted shelf life is autism
What isn't autism nowadays
>>343126459
>>343126874
neo-/v/, everyone
>>343123517
>DS1 pvp is better than DS3
>>343123517
This isn't biased at all
>>343124223
pontiff was one of the best bosses in the series
irttly dungeon was awsome because it completely changed your approach to the enemies and the area, made you think and forced you to coem up with a strategy
Archdragon Peak was better though.
>>343127195
>>343127057
1500 fucking hours. That's two months worth of time spendt in a game where you hit monsters with your magic sword. Call me neo v all you want it's not making you any less pathethic
>>343127590
Normies are truly the worst
>>343118498
>Implying Painted World isn't superior snow level with best girl in the series
>>343123517
almost. differences:
>PvP
DS3 > DS1 > DS2
>Bosses
DS1 > DS3 > DS2
I agree with you on everything else.
>>343127736
>DS3
>PVP
>Good
Do you hang around bonfires with your passworded summon friends?
>>343123517
the unded crypt was the best athmospere moment for me
>finially beat velstad, adrenaline sitll pumping
>go into the kings chamber, music starts to play and there it is, vendrick, the character that was talked about the entire game and is shell of his former self, gone hollow circling aimlessly forever
that athmospere moment was the best for me
dragon aerie was also good, especially because you go there after aldias keep
aldias keep was very cramped and clostrophobic which contrasts the aerie, i liked the placement there
>>343128043
>cant gank spank
git gud
its also easily the best one for duels
>>343128047
The memories of doing it for the first time with my mage character who had so little hp every single swing from veldstad was a 1 shot.
DaS2 wasn't that bad afterall. Especially with sotfs
>>343128184
>hornet ring + parry
>skill
>>343128379
yup. shame you always get rekt
>>343128379
You can try using a whip? Magic? Pyromancies?
Why are we still doing this "DS2 is the worst in the series" bullshit when DS3 has repeatedly shown itself to be worse? And it was by A-Team.
Like seriously, is it this hard to admit that you bet on the wrong horse?
>>343128478
Looks like I win yet again
dark souls 3 would be better if longsword + r1 wasnt a billion times better than every other weapon in the game
even if you use an ugs it still does worse dps.
so why use one?
>>343128570
but you just admitted you get rekt by gankers online anon
>>343118498
I liked cathedral of the deep more, but I guess that is actually somewhat related to irithyll
>>343123517
No fucking way DS1 beats DS3 in level desing, DS3 has two of the best designed areas of the series, Cathedral of the Depths and Grand Archives.
>>343128371
yeah i agree, Sotfs was much better
i wish they didnt fuck up the animations so badly tho, especially the backstab and riposte animations, tho soem of them was cool
like impaling the guy from behind and smackign him down with halberd/spear backstabnow in DS3 you stab people with scythes, fuckign lazy fromsoft
>>343128678
No I didn't. Wow making up arguments that aren't there. I really do win yet again.
>>343128515
you mean "deliberately make winning harder or near-impossible in the case of magic?" you'll get shat on by the next person you meet using any kind of quick-attacking weapon or douche with a parrying shield/dagger/caestus and the Ring of Skill
>>343126125
same here.
got fucked in NG because from the moment i started to the moment i finally killed him, he did nothing but spam arrows.
Then got to him on NG+ and suddenly he forgot how to use his arrows.
The fight itself isn't hard, it's just that RNG can fuck you and have him chain arrows, even if you get close enough for him to switch to his other attacks.
>>343128723
Don't forget Irithyll Dungeon.
>>343128932
you complained about getting parried and I proposed possible solutions. Now it seems that you also have a problem with any kind of fast weapon. Could it be that you're bad at pvp?
>>343126125
If he decides to fight it out using melee attacks he is piss easy, if he keeps running away at the first opportunity he is super annoying.
>>343127468
>irttly dungeon was awsome because it completely changed your approach to the enemies and the area
except no? because the only "new" enemy in the entire area were the Jailers who seemed super cheap but were piss easy to dispatch, even in giant groups.
It was boring and bland, basically a carbon copy of Carthus but with green lighting instead of yellow.
>>343128884
>being this desperate for the last word
if you're winning, i shudder to think who's losing lol
>>343129109
Parrying + hornet ring is for gank spanking, not the other way around, retard. You need to one shot people or you'll just be spammed to death. At least play the game.
>>343129375
Not an argument yet again. Another win.
>>343127712
But there's no snow in the High Wall of Lothric area, anon.
>>343128043
fuck these guys.
made progressing Watchdogs impossible, because the moment you invade there's at least three fucking idiots coming fuck your shit.
The duels outside of Pontiff Sullyvan's room is GOAT tho, nothing but good times, and when some idiot runs in and disrespects the rules of the impromptu duel club, everyone fucks him up and goes back to dueling.
>>343128379
>twinking some faggot you're much stronger than
>skill
>200+ hours in DeS
>300+ hours in DaS
>100+ hours in DaSII
>12 hours in BB
>80+ hours in DaSIII
Honestly, I hated having to travel back to hunter's dream to fast travel anywhere. Having played DaSII and above on PC I just cannot tolerate the fuzzy graphics and constant load times of BB.
>>343129625
The only thing that's possible to twink is having more estus and having a slightly wider variety of weapon choice. You can only be within +-10 levels or some shit while invading PLUS your weapon has to be within 2 upgrade of theirs. You get killed by someone who did a low level run who decided to invade undead settlement?
>>343129862
>not understanding the point of the post
Dumbass
>>343129942
>not knowing how to write
Win again
>>343129980
Ignorance truly is bliss.
>>343124205
Well DeS has the same feel, is definitely Japan Studio support
BB and DeS were made by two studios working back o back
>>343130042
Thanks for playing and providing me with yet another win
>>343129980
he made sense tho kiddo. lrn24chinks.protip: he wasn't talking about das3
>>343123517
agreed except I like DS1 PvE more
>>343124258
>le game is worse after le anor londo meme
only applies to lost izalith because it's unfinished
>>343125912
I found cleaver boring.
To be honest, axe was just plain easier for pve because of its capabilities to stagger.
I might try cane during subsequent playthroughs, but hammer was fun as fuck for some of the harder boss fights, despite the fact its rally is shit.
I keep gravitating toward mercy blades and claws, but I'm absolutely shit with 'quick' weapons.
>>343130175
>>le game is worse after le anor londo meme
>only applies to lost izalith because it's unfinished
Thanks. This is the first time I've heard somebody say this here apart from myself.
>>343123742
yes, japan studios had the game optimized for PS4
>>343130142
I never said I liked DS1 PVP
>>343118498
>best part of DaS3 is a direct rip off of Bloodborne
And I agree, wish it wasn't wasted on such a mediocre game.
>>343130202
i really like how blood looks in that game
too bad they changed itno literal shit in ds3
>>343123969
?
it's just 30 fps
>>343130382
who cares? you're dumb af
>>343118498
I want to play a Jon Snow build. The Bastard Sword 1h/2h alternating style looks really, fun and they have crow armor, too.
Is it fun?
>>343130474
Looks like I won yet again
>>343130175
Do you legitimately think shit like Duke's Archives is actually good level design?
>>343130553
you argue a lot online dont you? :^)
>>343130575
not him but how is it not? it's one of my favourite levels in all of souls. it's fantastic.
>>343127736
PvP in DS3 just doesn't have much variety. For all the shit DS2 receives, the build variety is a lot better there while DS3 tends to only have a few viable builds for good PvP.
>>343130575
yes? what's wrong with it?
>>343127736
>PvP
>DS3 >
>>343130872
:^)
>>343127468
>and forced you to coem up with a strategy
Yeah. "Run past them because it's not worth the time and effort, and they can't even hope of catching up to you unless you're a moron."
Only good parts were the grand reveal and boss imo. It's nowhere near my favorite area in the game
>>343124249
Fuck it i´m gonna buy a PS4 NEO when it comes out if BB is compatible, if not i will get a regular PS4
>>343130701
Too bad DaS2's gameplay feels like shit at a fundamental level.
>>343129109
not the same guy m8 but you're missing the point
nearly all magic in DAS3 is overcome by not using something big and slow and not being braindead
90% of duels are decided by who lands a parry first and Ring of Skills the other guy to death
getting back to the original topic, this PVP is not remotely the best the franchise has had, and sure as shit isn't comparable to DAS2's "literally anything can work" meta
>>343118498
dude fire AOE lmao
>>343130202
Ahaha holy shit I thought this was High Wall until i saw the dodge.
>>343130698
>>343130718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0oWQGJ_kvc
>>343131302
I don't need some 25 minute meme video telling me why a level is bad. Shame you can't make your mind up for yourself. Duke's Archives is a fantastic level as far as I'm concerned and that won't change.
>>343131158
Eh. If you have a gaming PC I'd just get the regular PS4. You dont need the neo, seriously, since you'll do all the rest of your gaming on the PC. Bloodborne is very good but it sure as shit isn't worth the PS4 Neo on its own, especially when it's fine on the normal PS4 and you'll be doing your multiplat gaming on the PC.
>>343130202
>>343131287
I really don't like all the influence that bloodborne had on DaS3
I mean some of it is thematically alright but it just makes the game itself become the bastard child of DeS, DaS AND BB too
>>343131302
I agree with the elevator being poorly placed and the unavoidable death being dumb, but in terms of actual level design the place is designed well
>he goes back to try and fight him
fucking lmao, this is the first time I've heard anyone do this. Does he have 0 intuition or what?
>>343121639
It's like they made a series of levels and strung them together as corridors.
>>343130409
>fight a lot in BB
>get blood on you
>looks like an actual explosion of blood on your armor
>fight a lot in DaS3
>get blood on you
>blackface
>>343131938
Isn't this just based on named areas?
Like blighttown to quelaag's domain isn't significantly different
I don't disagree though
I was told to post here
What is the difficult curve for this game? I'm at Lothric with the dragon and keep dying to this knight outside the bonfire.
I'd rather just request a refund for my $40 if I'm not going to be able to play the rest of the game.
>>343133895
If you're at Lothric then the rest of the game should be a steamroll up until Nameless King, but even then he's completely optional
>>343133895
High wall of lothric, or lothric castle?
if you're at high wall and struggling it's a bad sign, but if you're in the castle then those knights are supposed to be assholes
>>343132023
its soot
>>343121119
You grew out of video games.
>>343135024
then shouldn't it be more pale? Like god of war ashes on kratos
>>343123742
BB has much better visual effects.
One of the things I was disappointed with in DS3 was the downgrade in effects in general (like fire, lightning and specially the blood) from BB, but at least it was a big improvement over DS2.
>those fucking effects on the weapon buffs in DS2
>>343133895
comparatively to the other games, it only ever really reaches "medium" in terms of difficulty
bosses are tonned down to either having low HP or very telegraphed moves
It was nice to look at but the actual parts that you could walk on were really weak. Just a pathway that went up some stairs and led to a church with some bullshit enemies on it.
>>343128478
>>343128570
>>343128678
>>343128884
Kill yourselves underage niggers
>>343123517
>Level Design
>DS1 >>>>>> DS3 > DS2
you're confusing level design with world design. ds3's levels are generally leagues better than ds1.
if anything its
>level design
ds3 >ds2 dlc>> ds1 >>> ds2
>world design
ds1 >>>>> ds3 > ds2
>>343123742
If you guys want to compare Bloodborne to Dark Souls 3:
>Oceiros, the Consumed King, was infatuated with the search for moonlight, but in the end, it never revealed itself to him. (MLGS DaS3 edition.)
>Aah, you were at my side, all along. My true mentor... My guiding moonlight. (Ludwig, in the hunter's nightmare)
I like to think of it as the extent Fromsoft wants to thank us for supporting them.
The Grand Archives were much better
>That final push where you go through a miniature army then fight Lorian & Lothric, the best boss in the game
>While the backdrop is the darksign sun with pilgrim butterflies everywhere
Peak Souls
>>343140506
I never killed any of those enemies. As soon as i got there and realized it's just 20 dudes on a bridge i ran past.
>>343140506
those things were butterflies? I thought they were fucked up wyverns
I guess their attacks in the dragonslayer armor fight make sense now
>>343123649
I just equipped a heavy great club and R2 him to death. If you're at the bottom of the stairs and he's at the top most of his attacks will miss you.
>>343123220
Or you can just open the side gates which they kept locked as shortcuts?
