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Are you hyped?
>>343117860
Hopefully there aren't any pools for Smashkiddies to shit in.
>>343117860
Let's get this out of the way. Smash is not a fighting game.
What are the most popular fighting games in order?
Yes
Especially after CEO
>KI
>Guilty Gear
>Tekken 7
This is the holy trinity of EVO
>Xrd
>Melee
>Pokken
>KI
>Tekken
Holy shit, I'm gonna be watching a lot of Evo this year.
>KOF comes out after EVO
I can't burn to this
>>343118070
Then why is it the most represented series in the largest fighting tournament? Not that I'm defending it, if I was a Smash player I'd like to be dissociated from the edgy mouthbreathers in the FGC as much as possible.
>>343117860
I'll be away on a business trip for most of EVO, but I'm certainly going to watch the stream recordings when I get back.
The games I'll watch are Killer Instinct, Tekken 7, the two Smashes, and Street Fighter V.
>>343118361
Yeah but hopefully it will appear next year
>3 kid games
>no sf4
JUST
>>343118361
It can't be helped.
>>343117860
My hype, in order:
1. SFV
2. GGXrd
POWERGAP
3. MvC3
4. Melee
POWERGAP
5. KI
6. Pokken
7. Tekken 7
8. MKX
9. Smash U
>>343118550
>Wanting 2(two) SF games
Smash shouldn't have two either, replace Melee wit something else
Will we see something as amazing as this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBLYJWZm91s
I only like SFV and Rev, Tekken is alright but i never got into 3d fighters. The only western fighter I like is Skullgirls. MvC3 is incredibly stale.
It's weird how divided the fgc is.
the Tokido vs Infiltration feud is reaching the boiling point.
>>343117860
Literary no game I care about
The last few years I always uses to watch the whole thing (SF4, Persona, some older games) from start to end
Now I'm just disappointed
>KI
nice
>>343118762
W-What was he thinking?
>>343118885
Does anyone have that webm of Tokido parrying that one nash move?
>>343117860
>Mortal Kombat
>Killer Instinct
>Pokken
>TWO (2) Smash games
No, fuck you, I'm only hyped for anime evo
>>343118384
There are more kids who like a casual one button fighter than a complicated six button one because it's easy as fuck to get into? It's fucking obvious why, you retarded mother fucker.
>>343117860
the fact that smash is in there is fucking embarrassing, fucking stop please!!
>>343119443
this one?
>>343117860
why is pokemon and smash there?
>>343117860
cool, more party games that need NEETS to be "gud"
>>343119815
people born after 1990 are majority faggots
>>343118635
>No hype for smash u after the crazy pools and top at ceo
Hello gramps! Took your medicine today?
>>343117860
It looks like there's gonna be a MK vs KI announcement for Season 4
Get hype
SFV
Xrd
Tekken
Pokken
fuck smash
>>343119914
I didn't watch it because I don't think the game is fun to play or watch.
>>343119724
wonder how he pulled that off
ya know cause8 FRAMES
who /going to evo/ here
competing inmeleewish me luck lads
>>343119914
>sm4sh top 8
>>343119932
best girl is going to be in
Infiltration literally let Tokido win out of pity.
He stomped Tokido's shit in winner's bracket and then loses two sets in a row?
Sure. I got a bridge to sell you.
>>343120118
I too, will drown in pools.
Might even watch smash 4 after.
>>343120267
she's a bitch
Noob Saibot
Jade
Rain
Sindel
Calling it now
>>343119724
>that fucking jab in the middle
Suge
>>343119914
>Butthurt children defensive post right away
What a shocking surprise.
>>343119978
>>343120121
>>343121159
Woah gramps! We told you how uncomfortable you can get if you don't take your meds, don't make me call the police again.
>>343120592
Don't drown in the one the Smash babbies shat in.
>>343118384
because nubs love their button mashers
Reminder smashfags LITERALLY shit in a pool causing staff to close it down.
xrd, melee, and maybe mkx are the only games I'm interested in
>>343117860
>another Tokido vs. Infiltration Grand Finals incoming
Infiltration is my boy but even I dont want this shit to happen again
Because of stupid smash this year will be full of shitty awkward faggots again...
>>343121470
I wonder how they found out it was Smashfags that did it, and if they know who specifically did it in that case.
Hyped for Xrd, Mahvel vs Capcom and Tekken 7 definitely not watching Smash anything.
>>343119932
Woah what?
>>343117860
I'm actually legit hyped for Pokken. Was fun as hell to watch at CEO.
>>343121278
Don't you have a pool to shit in?
>>343120604
noob is the best
>>343117860
>ultimate marvel vs capcom 3
>two tekken games
>two smash games
no
I want to see my boy Stupendous boof everyone to death.
Realistically, though. I hope Fuudo wins SFV.
How many of you are actually going to evo?how many of you want to lose your virginity?
Nigga you know I am
Whos yall favorite for SFV and Marvel? KI and MK too if niggas dig it
>SFV
Infiltration
>Marvel
KBR or JWong, though Im not following it so much these last months
>KI
Muh nigga Rico though any of the big players stand a real chance, no ones been dominating since S3
>MK
That faggot Sonicfox for sure, though I will be cheering against
>EXVS
yessss
>>343122323
>SFV
Infiltration, Fuudo, or Jwong. I think Momochi will take it, but fuck Ken in the butt.
>Marvel
As long as it isn't FChamp, I don't care.
>Melee
Armada
>Sm4sh
Nairo
>GG, Tekken
Don't know anything about these games, but looking forward to seeing what's what.
>KI, Pokken, MKX
Fuck these games. Who cares.
>>343122387
This shit reminds me, what was that event that had Catherine? Is Catherine ever going to show up again? Checked that shit out for the novelty, stayed for the hype.
>>343118384
Low skill ceiling and everyone has played smash.
>SFV
I love Xian but it'll likely be Momochi or Jwong
>Melee
Leffen, I hope
>Sm4sh
my nigga ANTi
>>343122291are you a girl?
>>343123217
>low skill ceiling
Assuming you were talking about melee, very ignorant comment, anon. I think it's time you admit that you were pretending to be retarded
It's amazing how during the CEO stream there was nonstop shitposting during the melee finals, but once SF started the shitposting ground to a halt and everyone was just commenting on the matches.the hype was real in the reveal
>>343121791
People reading WAY too much into an Ed Boon tweet.
>>343123000
>Fuck these games. Who cares
epic
>>343117860
Are the threads going to be 75% people shitposting about games they don't like again?
>>343120118
I go every year.
>>343123718
>sm4sh and traditional FG fags attacking melee
>melee fags attacking 4
>angry GG fags attacking SF and vice versa
>everyone hating on MK and KI
>nobody really caring about (Po/Te)kken
>>343123718
What do you think?
>>343123000
>cares about smash
>thinks his opinion is valid
>>343123661
Not him but when Boon hints things, it generally means SOMETHING is coming.
>>343119914
stop reddit spacing.
>>343123718
looks like it
>>343123975
no him but what the fuck
>>343123697
>>343123949
Sorry I offended you and your games, friends. I didn't mean it.
>>343123441
High APM doesn't equate to a high skill ceiling friendo. Post that video of slow motion inputs so I can laugh. Just remember, QXF inputs are artificial difficulty.
>>343117860
As much as I love you MVC3 stop.
Also You either choose Smash 4 and Melee or kick out Pokken.
I want Blazblue.
>>343122291
>Smash events
>>343123718
wehnnnsss maahveelll
>>343124237
The girl is pretty cute.
>people are still upset about Smash being at EVO
It's been there for five years and show no signs of going away any time soon, the butthurt will never end though.
>>343123441
>meleefag trying to act as though they are better than sm4sh players
Would it kill them to tell me the scheduling for the 3 days?
>>343124189
Why would slomo inputs mean anything?
Please, with your FAR superior and unbiased judgement, tell me what it takes for a game to have a high skill ceiling
MKX is just going to be one big boring Alien circlejerk because NRS refuses to patch him and Piercing Mileena.
So fuck that.
>>343123950
He said something for MKX was going to be announced regarding EVO. Smart money is on the annoucement he made two hours later about the 50k Sonicfox appearance fee being it but if not it's either ESL season 4 or KP3. Nothing about a new game when they just announced Injustice 2, I promise you.
>>343124237
But they "have to" have the newest Smash on there, wouldn't look proper if they only ran an older game.
People still play Melee a ton so it attracts good players and good views.
Pokken is new, if it cans this year it'll most definitely be cut next event, they have to try it out.
>>343124295
Would you let her fuck you? What about other FGC traps?
>>343122291
>>343123437
I'm setting up a gloryhole in my hotel room.
>>343124690
>Pokken is new, if it cans this year it'll most definitely be cut next event, they have to try it out.
Pretty much. People here are too young to remember that XTekken only lasted a year and Capcom pushed that like crazy.
>>343124237
>As much as I love you MVC3 stop.
Never. MvC2 lasted 10 years.
cant watch to watch sfv, gg and marvel, will be checking out ki and tekken, dont care at all about the rest
>>343118885
>literally a 1:1 knockoff of the UFC belt
>>343125342
They want to cater to wrestling fans more than ever, so that's to be expected.
>>343124510
Characters with more than 20ish moves. Movement and spacing that matters much more than it does with less emphasis on platforming. Less tier stratification so one has to learn more than the matchups for a small subset of the roster. Defensive lines of keep away and zoning play being rewarded and viable. Something a bit less simple than the current shielding system for blocking. Lack of infinites. Hitboxes that look like they were made by someone with a clue about balance.
Those would be good starting points.
Persona 4 Arena Ultimax won't be there, so not really
I'm hoping that we get something like what we got last year in the KI finals.
Other than that, MKX is always a snoozefest where Sonicfox dominates, I don't watch Smash, it'll be interesting to see how SFV plays out when apparently Balrod/Ibuki will be Evo-legal. Marvel is fun but holy fuck, give me some variety in the matches. The pools are WAY more fun to watch than the finals because people actually use uncommon shit like MODOK.
Where is Storm 4 senpai?
Xrd and KI are gonna be sweet, super hyped
Ill catch the finals of Mahvul and SF5, upsets are always enjoyable
Tekken and MK arent super fun to watch, probably just a post-EVO highlight reel
>smash
>fighting game
>>343125591
It's at Animevo.
>>343125664
>The pools are WAY more fun to watch than the finals because people actually use uncommon shit like MODOK.
1. BE|KaneBlueRiver (Hulk, Sentinel, Haggar)
2. CTRL|RayRay (Magneto, Dr. Doom, Sentinel)
3. ApologyMan (Firebrand, Dr. Doom, Super-Skrull)
4. TA|Frutsy (M.O.D.O.K., Captain America, Dr. Doom)
5. YKWIS|GoldenBoyNeo (Magneto, Dr. Doom, Phoenix)
5. TMP|Cross (Zero, Dr. Strange, Dante)
7. T3|Dizzy (Zero, Dr. Doom, Vergil)
7. R.F. (Morrigan, Dr. Doom, Vergil)
So even though MODOK was in top 8, you bitch?
>>343125815
In fairness the top 8 are becoming a blur to me at this point, I genuinely didn't remember that.
>>343125491
>he doesn't know the difference between combat sports and pro wrestling
>>343125909
fucking disgusting coalburner
>>343125581
Are you for real bashing on Sm4sh....for this....
I prescript you to "Git gud" and stop crying because you're just bad at the game
Cant wait for SFV, Tekken, Mahvel and KOF XIV
>>343125815
I still can't believe team big bodies is a thing
When the fuck will Capcom announce a replacement for UMvC3?
Damn it just make the same game but with only Capcom characters. You have 2 fucking decades worth of them to use, holy shit.
>>343126167
Capcom Fighting Jam exists you know.
>>343126137
I think it's pretty hilarious this team has managed to appear as the dominate force in Marvel, I wouldn't have imagined it when it was the Wesker, Phoenix, Vergil and Zero days.
>>343118384
Because you're all autistic as fuck. Neck yourself cunt.
>>343126167
>When the fuck will Capcom announce a replacement for UMvC3?
Never EVER because of Marvel. Even if MvC4 was a thing, you'd never get any X-Men or FF characters in it, and it would be full of primarily characters who are also in the MCU. While this would be interesting for some characters like Ant/Giant Man, it would be detrimental overall as characters who are more obscure or veterans of the series would be overlooked.
>>343126276
For PS4 and Xbone?
With MvC2 gameplay?
With recent graphics?
Damn, I missed it. Sorry.
>>343126380
Just because it was a PS2 game doesn't change that we did in fact get a Capcom vs Capcom game.
>>343126368
I dont give a fuck about Marvel.
I want MvC gameplay but with just Capcom characters.
UMvC3 is outdated as fuck and it got shut down before Capcom could patch its shitness. We need a new game to replace it.
>>343124826
down af
>>343125984
You asked for a list of reasons. Don't be upset that someone answered your go to response for smash bashing with a legitimate answer.
>>343126368
>Never EVER because of Marvel.
That may no longer be the case.
>>343125725
You know what I think I'll tune in for MKX and Tekken pools until it gets to Top 8 especially for X.
Top 8 of MKX is the same bunch of people all the time with Sonic Fox coming out on top.
>>343126606
Care to elaborate?
>>343118635
>4. Melee
watching jigglypuff through out back air sure is hype
>>343126696
Giant change of strategy at disney, they're going to let shit be up for grabs again, and the head of whatever its name is says he is fully aware people want MvC4, it's just not something we can give either a yes or no about right now.
So we might get MvC4 around like 2019 considering licensing and all.
I'm hypedfor Catherine
>>343126962
>and the head of whatever its name is says he is fully aware people want MvC4
[citation needed]
Not that I doubt you (I am aware of what happened with Disney Infinity), I just want to be absolutely sure.
reminder that all of the killers from Japan are coming over to ensure no gaijin take any top 8 places for Xrd
>>343123072
It was an Atlus thing
>>343127043
Hold on, I gotta go through Yipes's twitter until I find the link.
>>343125909
>implying UFC is not rigged
>>343127154
>>343127043
Here it is. It was from a polygon interview
>Despite Ono's confirmation about the slim possibility of the crossover, Marvel Games vice president Jay Ong told Polygon they are aware about fans request and their feedbacks matter. However, they cannot give anything about the crossover's future.
http://www.polygon.com/2016/6/20/11984572/marvel-vs-capcom-marvel-games-sequel
>>343126696
Not the original poster, but after what happened with Disney Interactive's closing (and also, Disney Infinity dying), then their statement that they actually wanted to focus now in better partnerships (aka, let studios make games with their propieties, which is already happening with Spiderman for PS4), some execs of Capcom commenting that they'd be up for a new Mahvel game, and also, no more Kike Perlmutter involved in anything with Marve's studios, the hope might happen.
Besides, some new rumors hinto that Fox might work now with Marvel, in a similar deal like Sony movies did with Spiderman entering the MCU.
>>343127360
>some new rumors hinto that Fox might work now with Marvel
F4 in Infinity War?
>>343127830
Let's not ask for miracles here
>>343122387
Where's Aquapazza?
>>343125581
>>343126586
>Characters with more than 20ish moves
.
why would that be a probleme at least every move is different except for copy-paste characters
>Movement and spacing that matters much more than it does with less emphasis on platforming.
Are you for real? Did you even play the game? Movement is literally the most important aspect of the game and platforming it gives a strategic touch to the game so you can't bash on it
>Less tier stratification so one has to learn more than the matchups for a small subset of the roster.
Literally tiers are non-existant when you're good at the game they're only usefull when you it's your first time or if you're a fag who wants "the best charcter"
>Defensive lines of keep away and zoning play being rewarded and viable. Something a bit less simple than the current shielding system for blocking.
Zoning when almost nobody shoots anything? and you got conters for those?plus for a viable and rewarding defense systeme literally dodging and shielding at the right moments puts the other player open for anything.
>Lack of infinites. Hitboxes that look like they were made by someone with a clue about balance.
Infinites?....there is literally no infinites you fucking idiot...BUT your last point on hitboxes IS right....with SOME of the charcters i'll give you that
>>343117860
Is evo still trying to be taken seriously?
Can't wait for the exciting fox vs fox matches and epic SFV snoozefest.
>>343127948
>SFV snoozefest.
You didn't watch the CEO finals the other day
>>343127336
>Who knows what the future holds?
I know what it doesn't hold: Any x-men characters
>>343127360
The only thing I want to come from that deal are some X-men games and/or Doom being used in Avengers.
>>343128156
Well I mean there'll be Wolverine.
>>343127830
If it happens, bet your ass that it will be after Infinity War, so... probably in Phase 4.
How is melee in but super turbo and 3rd strike aren't?
>>343128505
Mellefags are like MVC3fafgs, theu would rather die then see their game fade to obscurity.
>>343128616
mvc3fags are just mvc2fags that moved on though
>>343118762
He'll never live that down.
>>343128709And Meleefags will move on when there's a new melee.
>>343128505
no one plays those games
a lot of people still play melee
>>343128868
meleefags will never move onto another smash, mvc3 is objectively worse than 2 and all the fags from 2 still moved over
>>343127917
>why would that be a probleme at least every move is different except for copy-paste characters
Because the average fighting game has characters with around 40 moves which makes for much more options to utilize and to consider which creates a more in depth match.
>Are you for real? Did you even play the game? Movement is literally the most important aspect of the game and platforming it gives a strategic touch to the game so you can't bash on it.
The game being heavily movement based doesn't have anything to do with what I said. Movement is much more important in your street fighters and guilty gears and such because the stage size and screen size are smaller meaning that attacks and character models take up much more space. The smallest step backwards or forwards means much more in those games because of that. That is one reason why Smash has matches that take place largely in the neutral because space controlling isn't as important.
>Literally tiers are non-existant when you're good at the game they're only usefull when you it's your first time or if you're a fag who wants "the best charcter"
Tiers matter but this was largely a response to melee which is what the original poster was talking about. Not familiar with the drasticness of tier stratification in smash 4 so won't comment.
>Zoning when almost nobody shoots anything? and you got conters for those?
Hence my point of creating an environment where those types of strategies are rewarded. More strategies means more depth.
>Plus for a viable and rewarding defense systeme literally dodging and shielding at the right moments puts the other player open for anything.
The shielding system completely removes the potential for mixups and cross ups and just factors out blockstun entirely. It's much more shallow compared to a traditional fighter and thus you have less things to think about on the defense.
>Infinites?....
Chaingrabbing in melee is a thing.
>>343128945
From what I've heard a lot of Meleefags were moving into Project M until Nintendo started to crack down on them.
>>343128945
It's really not. The only really dumb thing about mvc3 when compared to mvc2 is x-factor
>>343125581
>Characters with more than 20ish moves
That doesn't matter when you're just going to pick the 4 best ones and just use those
>Movement and spacing that matters
Are you implying movement isn't the single most important thing in Melee? Are you saying dash dancing isn't viable?
>Less emphasis on platforming
This is just dumb. The game having emphasis on platforming or not doesn't affect the skill ceiling
>Defensive lines of keep away and zoning play being rewarded and viable
Then again, dash dancing is probably one of the most important things in the game
>Something a bit less simple than the current shielding system for blocking
But blocking in traditional fighting games is way simpler than shielding in Melee, what are you saying?
>Lack of infinites
I agree wobbling is gay as fuck, but I can't think of any other infinite unless you mean getting shined against a wall in Pokemon Stadium which can be easily avoided by staying away from the fucking wall until it disappears
>>343118078
Super Smash Bros Wii U
Super Smash Bros Melee
Street Fighter V
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3
Tekken 7
Killer Instinct
Mortal Kombat X
Guity Gear Xrd Revelator
Pokken Tournament
Probably in that order.
>>343129260
>That doesn't matter when you're just going to pick the 4 best ones and just use those
>This is just dumb. The game having emphasis on platforming or not doesn't affect the skill ceiling
>Then again, dash dancing is probably one of the most important things in the game
>But blocking in traditional fighting games is way simpler than shielding in Melee, what are you saying?
It's responses like these that don't allow for the conversation to occur. You can't know what you don't know. These are flawed or mistaken lines of thought that demonstrate you need to familiarize yourself with at least the basics of traditional fighting game strategy and play. I wish I could recommend a good basic guide but I honestly don't know one off the top of my head though I'm sure they exist.
>UMVC3 is still fucking there
all hype is gone.
>>343129904
Explain to me how blocking isn't simpler than shielding in Melee please because I simply can't understand
Green: You must be hyped for this
Yellow: It's acceptable to be hyped for this
Red: You're a fucking faggot if you're hyped for this
Willing to accept the argument that Pokken is green just because it's its first showing.
>>343118148
Replace T7 with SFV now that it is saved and this is correct
>>343129042
>Because the average fighting game has characters with around 40 moves which makes for much more options to utilize and to consider which creates a more in depth match.
Not that much actually...consider the following in a basic fighting game most people do the same target combo so ther isn't really more depth but in smash...every combo is unique because you made it yourself!(except if you just copy a combo you saw because "he won the competion his combos will surely make me win"
>The game being heavily movement based doesn't have anything to do with what I said. Movement is much more important in your street fighters and guilty gears and such because the stage size and screen size are smaller meaning that attacks and character models take up much more space. The smallest step backwards or forwards means much more in those games because of that. That is one reason why Smash has matches that take place largely in the neutral because space controlling isn't as important.
Point taken but then again I could just say it's because they are different games with different gameplay...
>Tiers matter but this was largely a response to melee which is what the original poster was talking about. Not familiar with the drasticness of tier stratification in smash 4 so won't comment.
Ok...
>Hence my point of creating an environment where those types of strategies are rewarded. More strategies means more depth
For the kind of fighting game smash is it would just make characters broken....but you're kind of right in a way...
The shielding system completely removes the potential for mixups and cross ups and just factors out blockstun entirely. It's much more shallow compared to a traditional fighter and thus you have less things to think about on the defense.
That why Reading is a BIG part of the game you've got to read what will be is next move or block and mave if you read a dodge...AND NO it's not just luck it's being a good player
>>343117860
Yeah I hope Guilty Gear is just as exciting again. Surprised UMvC3 continues to hang on but that just shows how dedicated those players are. I haven't played Tekken 7, but I've played all the other games and they're all good. This is gonna be a great Evo. There's no way you can like fighting games and not like a single game there.I'll miss P4U a little bit but we're never getting that Japanese update on consoles so I don't blame them.
>>343128246
There won't. Literally no x-men characters are allowed to be made in any future marvel games. They're trying to bury X-Men and replace them with Inhumans
Have fun with Black Bolt :^)
>>343130171
>le tr4sh maymay
kys yourself
Melee is fucking unacceptable. After 100 years of people playing it, and by it, I mean Fox vs Fox in final destination, its gotten fucking boring. Smash Wii U has had tons of characters and patches since the last EVO, it will be interesting to watch the finals of it at least.
>>343129042
>>343130256
Chaingrabbing in melee is a thing
....not gonna argue you're right on that one but i think Melee is shit anyway and i prefer Sm4sh....soooo......you'r(e right...
>>343118078
>>343129757
More like
Mortal Kombat X (while it's scene isn't that big normies buy it in droves.)
Smash U
SFV
Pokken Tournament
Smash Melee
UMVC3
Tekken 7
Killer Instinct
GGXrd
>>343130349
As someone who's actually been to the venue, Melee at least has enthusiastic fans and "hype". Smash Wii U just bores everyone.
>>343130349
Are you implying Fox vs Fox isn't the most exciting match up to watch? The fuck else do you want to watch?
>>343130349
>Fox vs Fox in final destination
You've never even watched a tournament, you fuck. Look at the top 8 of the last 2 EVOs and tell me how many Fox dittos you see on any stage.
>>343117860
>Trash
>Old game
>Old game
>mite b good
>good
>old game
>Western Trash
>Western Trash
>Not TTT2
What's wrong with this line up
>>343130217
You are retarded.
>>343130432
I was talking about viewer count and competing players in the list I posted, but I would probably agree with you that MKX is the most popular among normies. Killer Instinct is also really popular, more than Tekken 7 which isn't even out yet, and I do believe Pokken sold more than SFV though that may just be the PS4's version of SFV.
>>343130287
Inhumans was pushed back because they dont even know what to do with it.
I just hope that MvC4 isnt only MCU characters though. While I would be happy with Black Panther, Ultron, and Vision I'd also want others back like Blackheart or new characters like Vulture and Mandarin
>>343129042
>Chaingrabbing in melee is a thing
And true combos are a thing in other games too, what's wrong? At least in Melee you have to adjust your combo to your opponents DI/SDI instead of just pressing the same string of buttons.
>>343130453
Melee has autistic fans and artificial "hype"
>>343130558
Well you don't really like fighting games it seems.
Good tier:
>SFV
>GGX
>Tekken
Whatever tier:
>UMvC 3 (one last time)
>Melee
It should be interesting tier?:
>Pokken
Snore tier:
>Smash 4
>KI
>MKXIN MY OPINION
>>343130171
>you must be hyped for Street Fighter V
It'd be like hyping myself up to take a nap.
Street Fighter is fucking boring to watch and puts me to sleep.
>>343130558
Just because a game is old doesn't mean it's bad. Just because a game is western doesn't mean it's bad. Also did you just call Smash 4 good? Maybe this isn't your kind of hobby
>>343121697
It's the FGC, what did you expect. Fucking Momochi is one of the most awkward people
>>343130648
Combos in other games require you to press different buttons + motions in order to execute them.
Chain grabbing is literally pressing one button and up and repeating.
>>343130349
smash 4 could have a million characters and it still wouldn't matter because the game is boring as fuck. Melee might be old and busted but at least the gameplay is intense and exciting for the most part.
Speaking of fighting games, it's kinda sad that despite all the money various companies have been putting into their games, they aren't really growing all that much. I mean, yeah, SFV's getting a lot more people at EVO this year than last year but it's still not comparable to real eSports titles such as LoL and CS:GO. I have a feeling that those "pro" fighting game players will lose their jobs sooner than we ever imagined.
>>343125581
>hitboxes
Oh look, it's this argument again... Do we really need to get into how standard retarded hitboxes are among fighting games?
>>343130349
I don't even mind the game, but Smash 4 is literally no fun to watch, there's just not enough technical input available for the game to be cool or interesting. Because melee lets players do so much more at greater speeds, and with much less floatiness, the game stays consistently fun to watch, partly due to the massive skill ceiling.
>>343130635
>I just hope that MvC4 isnt only MCU characters though
It probably won't be, however anything Fantastic Four or X-Men related is out the window. That being said I could easily seem marvel forcing MCU only.
>>343130687
>artificial "hype"
the fuck does this mean
>I'm the only one sad about the death of Ultra
now I know how 3rd strikefags feel. say what you will about the game, but you never knew what to expect come EVO
>>343130558
>Guilty Gear Revelator
>Initial release date: August 25, 2015
>Old
>>343130696
Smashfag D E T E C T E D
>>343130093
>>343129042 in addition to throws and many games with unblockable attacks. Blockstun itself is huge because it is the entire basis for determining block advantage and thus generating block pressure. It allows for dynamics like tick throws, timing a throw so that it comes out right when your opponent is exiting block stun (which they are invulnerable to throws during) so that it's a setup into a near guaranteed throw. In most games, blocking is not much of a binary state so much as something that will trigger based on conditions being met. It allows for a more seamless flow between offense and defense because.
>>343130690
>>343130558
you've got the shitiest taste i have ever seen
>>343130901
Wait, how is 5 any different? What are you 'expecting' here that you couldn't expect in 4?
>>343130349
Smash 4 is so anti-hype it's not even funny
>>343130901
lmao caring about ultra? it was the worst sf ever you nigger, 09er faggot
>>343130558
>Not TTT2
Why in the fuck would they do Tag 2, old, unpopular with viewers and top international players don't touch it anymore.
>>343130581
I can't really vouch of KI's popularity because
>Xbone
>Windows 10
Primary reason SFV sold badly was because of its initial launch. If we got the next update at launch SFV would've been way more successful.
>>343117860
Is Tekken 7 even out? How the fuck was it at the last two Evos? How does anyone not living in Japan practice?
>>343131087
>worse than SFV
are you serious? fuck off ruggadick
>>343130906
Of course it's old. Guilty Gear is an Old game
>>343130689
But I love fighting games. My favorite are ULiL, AC3:Love Max and Skullgrills
>>343130743
Actually western fighting games ARE bad. All style and no substance.
>>343131160
Because it has better characters, better music, better pretty much everything.
When will you play another Tekken game with Dr. Bosconovich?
>>343129074
Not entirely accurate- there's an issue with the Brawl engine that means actions take place one frame later, so timing is VERY slightly different between the games to the point where it's tough to switch between the two games.
>>343131314
>But I love fighting games. My favorite are ULiL, AC3:Love Max and Skullgrills
You love waifus.
>>343130956
>implying I give a fuck about smash either
If V is naptime, Smash is the pissbreak
>>343128945
Melee fans would probably switch games if it ever got a legitimate sequel
>>343131314
>When will you play another Tekken game with Dr. Bosconovich?
Yeah if there's anything Tekken players care about it's some bottom tier joke character with no tournament viable tech.
>>343131314
according to you Skullgrills is trash
>>343131480
>You love waifus.
You're saying it like it's a bad thing.
>>343131314
>Actually western fighting games ARE bad. All style and no substance.
>My favorite are ULiL, AC3:Love Max and Skullgrills
>Skullgrills
bad news anon
>>343130648
Chaingrabbing, if timed right, is a guaranteed death. You can also timing ice climber attacks to infinite and some infinites with shine on certain stages. This isn't about combos so much as "oh I caught you in this scenario in which you're just dead." You can debate the place of infinites in competitive fighters, most fall on the side of they have no place and thus they don't exist in most fighter, but chain grabbing in certain matchups is:
>get in throw range
>lose
Which has no place in a competitive fighter.
WHy does everyone hate SFV? CEO Top 8 was amazing
>>343131314
>better pretty much everything.
Uh, no, aside from character roster and OST everything in Tekken 7 is better.
>>343131314
>Skullgrills
>Says western games are trash
>>343131314
>Actually western fighting games ARE bad
>skullgirls
WHERE'S BLAZBLUE?
I mean, I'm used to having to look for one of the smaller streams for the Gundam tournament, but Jesus.
>>343131581
Because it's new and Street Fighter 4 was played for like 8 years. People bitched SF4 wasn't Third Strike when it came out. It'll go away.
>>343131581
Memes and normie word of mouth.
If a game is shit at launch then for normies and people who are generally retarded and can't think for themselves will have that lasting impression forever ingrained in them, which is why launch is so important for games.
>>343131578
>bitching about IC's
>2016
Who the fuck cares? Literally anyone halfway decent make IC's look like garbage. Plus the character never wins any major tournaments so who the fuck cares?
>>343131314
Anon I love TTT2 as much as everyone else and I hated T7 when it first was announced but after seeing FR videos I'm fairly convinced FR will be the superior game, if only in mechanics/balance, which matters a lot more than stages/music to me.
>>343131314
Just becausr it's good doesn't mean people will bother with it. The problem with Tag2 is that majority of players were overwhelmed by the roster and mechanics so the community never grew.
Community was dead when people were calling each other iut for being too lazy to show up and play and they had to fight for their second EVO spot.
Thank goodness it's not dead online
>HYPE
GGXrd
SFV
KI
Marvel
>mite b cool
Pokken
>not my thing but I'll watch top 8
Tekken
MKX
>dislike but will watch grand finals
Melee
>will actively avoid
Sm4sh
>>343131778
AnimEvo once again it looks like.>tfw mainstage uniel will literally never happen
>>343130852
What a great rebuttal. You sure showed me.
>>343131314
>western fighting games are bad
>skullgirls
>>343131806
I'll still bitch that they aren't playing Third Strike. I want to watch a street fighter game that actually looks good.
>>343131906
Morve Marvel down one and you're good.
>>343129042
It's called Shield Stun and it exists. Plus, while there might bot be ways to do crossovers and shit, there's a thing called shield pokes.
>>343131238
Round 1 has Tekken cabs
>>343131906
I'm pretty much this except I'd personally still watch Smash.
>>343130780
That only happens in 4 relevant matchups, Fox vs spacies and Marth vs spacies, and it only happens if there's no platforms on the way, and you have to press way more than one button considering you have to perfect pivot at low percents and dash jc grab/uptilt(gets more complicated when it comes to Marth cging spacies) at higher percent, and again, you have to adjust it every time reacting to your opponents DI instead of just pressing the same string everytime with your opponent having no chance to escape it. Also you don't die from it, you just get high percent and go back to neutral/tech chase/edgeguard
>>343131578
>Chaingrabbing, if timed right, is a guaranteed death
Only ever seen m2k pull that consistently and only with Marth on FD against Fox, and half the time it's a guaranteed edgeguard, not a death.
>infinites with shine on certain stages
Only works against walls that are only avaiable on Pokemon Stadium and they disappear
>>343131578
Chaingrabbing is never guaranteed, man. Wobbling is escapable in the first few hits, and chaingrabbing can easily be dropped if not both executed perfectly, and if the opponent DIs where you aren't expecting. You say something is a guaranteed death and then immediately qualify that, AKA not an infinite. Look, as far as arguing if something "has a place in competitive fighters" is one thing- acting as if a game has to be perfect to qualify for a genre is ridiculous and ignores the fact that this is something Smash and traditional fighting games have in common in many cases. Keep in mind it's the application of fighting game concepts, and tight, well-implemented base mechanics, that make SSBM a favorite for competitive play. We all know how Sakurai feels about it; it shouldn't be too surprising if there are oversights of this nature in the game.
>>343131238
Tekken 7's been out in Japan since march 2015, and was rolled out to Korea, SEA, and Australia in the following months.
I think there are a few machines around the US as well.
But this tourney's actually for FR, which will only come out in Japan and Korea a week before Evo, American players who have made it out to all the events it's been out have actually had more chances to practice FR than Japanese and Korean players will before Evo because of it.
>>343131943
Did you just mention that for shits and giggles? I ask because we are defining fighting games, and you're bringing up things that exist in tons of fighting games. Please clarify if there was a point to that.
>>343130432
More like:
SF
Smash U
Smash Melee
Pokken
Tekken
MK
Xrd
Mahvel
KI
>>343130217
Only if Daigo gets to the finals
>>343130780
Confirmed to have never attempted a chaingrab on a human opponent that has a functioning brain
>Gonna watch and enjoy it
Melee
GG
Tekken 7
SFV
>watching it because of last day hype
>Mahvel
>might watch if every other stream is down
Pokken
KI
MK
Sm4sh.
Next year will be better.
>>343117954
This is a dumb rumor that fgcucks spread because of Smash's growing numbers
>>343132198
>>343132304
Isn't it still weird that a game gets main stage two years in a row that only a select few are able to practice? What kind of shill show is Mr Wizard running?
>>343132534
You don't watch much SF, do you.
>>343132646
>defending poolshitting retards
defend your party game all you want but come on
>>343132691
We should all be mature enough to realize that Mr Wizard just does what will make the most money. Any illusion of giving a fuck about competition is purely to maintain credibility enough to not hamper that effort.
>>343125815
>SEVEN DOCTOR DOOMS
fug
It's sucks because I like him but variety pls.
>>343117954
http://www.strawpoll.me/10616425
>>343133087
meant for >>343117860
>>343133087
>Should Lionel Messi reconsider his retirement from international football?
what the fuck is this bullshit and who the fuck is lionel messi?
>>343132450
I mention it cause as bad as you perceive hitboxes in other fighting games they are factually worse in smash games. They designed without the slightest consideration for priority, matching character models, or to prevent infinites.
>>343133218
they add their own shitty polls onto people's polls now
>>343133264
Do you have a single piece of evidence to back that up?
>>343132691
Anyone who makes it out to events can practice.
But the real reason it's at evo is because Bamco Bucks.
Last year there was no Tekken on the schedule, then, Bamco sponsorship and Tekken 7's inclusion were announced on the SAME DAY, he's in it for the money and doesn't give a fuck if everyone knows it.
>>343130171
After watching Tekken 7 at CEO, I am actually going to watch it at EVO this time.
I normally stick to the 2D fighters. Not Smash, though. Maybe if 2v2 was the default format I'd watch it, but as of now it's boring as shit, no execution, watching Marios and Shieks fly away and then slowly float towards the same platform over and over.
>Only game of worth is Street Fighter 5
No, I am not hyped.
>>343133575
>Maybe if 2v2 was the default format I'd watch
Same. Since release I've been saying Smash 4 should be doubles. Singles is boring as fuck.
seeing idiots try to shit on KI and MKX is some if the funniest shit ever
>>343132827
Is there any definitive proof of who did it and his/her respective fanbase? No? Then fuck off, faggotron.
Nice ad hominem, btw
>>343127071
GG Xrd Rev EVO top 8
Machaboo (Sin)
Ogawa(Zato)
Omito (Johnny)
FAB (Potemkin)
Nage (faust)
Samitto (Chipp)
Woshige (Millia)Lost Soul (Elphelt)
I care for all of them Besides Nintendoshit and SF5.
>>343130217
> saved and this is correct it only took them 6 fucking months to fix the game, which we don't even know if it is going to be fixed since the patch isn't out yet
Stop ridding capcom's dick for a second pal.
>>343133849
Probably because both of those games suck
>>343133849
It's always the same argument.
>"western"
Or in KI's case
>"xbone and windows 10"
>>343133264
You keep mentioning infinites, i don't think you know what you're talking about. The only thing that's an infinite in Melee is wobbling.
>>343132760
A man can dream
>>343133745
>>343133575
Both the Smash games have doubles events, but Ninty never drops a penny so there's just not enough money in the scene to justify having established teams, to make learning teams strats worth it, etc. It's more work and more study of more interactions for less benefit- so at big-ticket events like EVO it's a side event at best.
>>343133987
>>343134025
epic post
>>343117860
>pokken furshit and 2 iterations of smash are allowed
don't care until they take the garbage out
>>343132283
>Chaingrabbing is never guaranteed
https://youtu.be/TSkCGa_J5wY
https://youtu.be/23UyrHXK36A
Before you reply, yes I realize this is brawl and not smash 4. Again the infinite point was mostly leveled at melee. I don't know enough about smash 4 to comment.
I'm not acting as though a game needs to be perfect to qualify. Hell my favorite fighting game omits some of those things I mentioned. What I am saying is that smash lacks depth compared to other games that have those things I listed, depth that was likely purposefully omitted to make the game more approachable. It's subjective where you draw the line at but for me, and many others, the lack of all of those things in addition to other points I haven't mentioned makes the game a pale imitation of a fighting game.
>>343133849
The worst games are always the one's I've never played/suck at
KI is hands down the most retarded game to watch
Is there a schedule out for EVO yet? I want to know when the finals for each game are supposed to happen.
the last set with infil/tokido was the only hype set of all of SFV so far since the games release
sf4 was so much fun to watch, sfv fucking blows
>>343133849
My only complaint about MK is to please stop doing the block button (eliminates crossups) and stop making normals chip (diminishes the importance of good defense).
KI is fine. Except I haven't played it since Super Nintendo so I don't know what Shadow Counters, Lockouts, Instincts, Cashouts, and Counter Breakers are or when you can do them. But that's a "me" problem, not a "KI" problem.
>>343134237
Er, I'm sorry man, wobbling isn't a chaingrab (the character never switches hands or leaves the grab), and again, in Melee, the game we are actually talking about, actual chaingrabbing is not guaranteed, and has as many chances to fail as grabs in the combo, let alone complex chaingrabs like Marth's on Fox/Falco, which again can only be done to kill % on FD, a stage which comes out once per set. Personally, I feel like you should probably understand the intricacies of what you attempt to classify as shallow before doing so.
>>343134391
I don't think they'll have a definitive schedule until the sign ups end which is in 3 days I believe.
>>343134315
Not when Pokken, Marvel, and Smash exist. KI is a thinking man's Darkstalkers
>>343134315
how
Remove Melee and it will be perfect.
i still cant believe he stood up
>>343132189
Shield stun is not equatable to blockstun. Shieldstun disadvantage from attackers can all but be ignored while block stun disadvantage usually means it's now the opponent's turn.
Why hasn't UMVC3 died yet?
>>343134503
>>343134237
Also, to clarify, wobble isn't completely inescapable either- with pro enough wiggle tech you can escape if you realize what's happening in time.
>>343134315
You know you can't back up shit
>>343134090
That sucks, because I think the game becomes deeper and more exciting to watch because there's always something for the players to do.
Also teams with rivalries and nemeses and stuff would be pretty tight to watch unfold as well.
>>343134484
You don't want the block button removed not with fast as fuck teleports.
And Scorpion is tame compared to Ethereal Mileena & Displacer Raiden.
Maybe include back to block in the next game as an alternative option and see how far it gets you.
I hope infiltration wins sfv. He's the most based
>>343135097
Just slow the teleports down a bit. SF has teleports, GG has teleports, they both have back to block.
>>343134926
Melee has some, S4 a little less so- teams is a little more hectic so it's harder to watch all the little interactions going on, but that density of action is pretty exciting at any level of understanding of the game. There is a lot of the contextual rivalry thing too; hell, the play might not have been great, but Leffen and Mango teaming at WTFox always sticks with me because they clearly are fucking with each other and trying to piss each other off while playing on the same team.
>>343133920
Woshige is going? nice.
My top 8:
1. Machabo
2. Omito
3. Daru
4. Ogawa
5. Nage
6. Sabamiso
7. Woshige
8. Samitto
As much as I'd like to see it, I doubt any Americans in top 8.
>>343133436
http://www.antd.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/ssbm_marth_fsmash_hitbox.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ely7VTpG3N4/hqdefault.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MOlQv-9S1zE/maxresdefault.jpg
Look how gigantic those hitboxes are. Look how little they match the animation. Look how far away from the hurtbox they meaning their priority is insanely high. They quite literally look like someone made them with MSPaint
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/02/15_blog06.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/01/17_blog01.jpg
http://m.imgur.com/aDb5w?r
http://www.capcom.co.jp/blog/sf4/img_upload/02ZGF_01.jpg
Look at how those hitboxes aren't three times the size of their hurtbox. Look at how those moves have varying overlaps of hitbox and hurtbox to tweak their priority to balance them according to active frames, range, etc. Look at how they have clear defined areas of effectiveness instead encompassing the entire front or 180 degrees of the attacker.
>>343135832
>Sabamiso
I want this as well, bedman is hype.
>>343130792
This
Also Tr4sh will die when smash 5 comes out.
Melee will prevail.
>>343135978
Marth is supossed to have a disjointed hitbox nigga has a sword
>>343118885
Nope KaneBlue River vs FGChamp the biggest /fgc/ rivalries coming out of this one
>>343135978
>Accurate to model
>their feet are sticking out
nice cherry picking anyway man
>>343135978
The Gief one is retarded and the only thing retarded about Marth's is the hitbox not relating to his sword
>>343134503
https://youtu.be/HSEcRDiOSqk
Chaingrabbing is not guaranteed my dick. Debating chaingrabbing isn't negating my other points. It's a strawman to distract from the fact you dob't have a counter point.
>>343117860
Hyped for everything other than Smash
>>343118762
Last years evo had so many fucking great moments.
My personal favorite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3IZwFWHiQo
What is it about smash that makes /v/ so mad
>>343134795
>>343134589
>600 hit combos that do no damage
>random breakers and shit
>announcer talking about nothing
>L I T E R A L meme characters
>footsie game for toddlers
>not even any cool combos or unique characters
KI shouldn't even be at evo, they should have just had a fun block like jojo or something from arcade
>>343133064
Doom is honestly worse than Vergil or Zero.
>>343137540
It is hands down the most technical and complex but people don't like to say it because their SF2 sega genesis tech doesn't transfer over. There is no possibly way you can say any other competitive fighter is near the realm of tech/skill required to play melee at top level. Sm4sh on the other hand is like SFV/Tekken/Soul Cailbur, braindead slow shit for retards. At least SF4 was fun to watch and had any semblance of hype.
>Tokido has apparently been playing alot of KI recently
>He's not gonna be playing KI at Evo though
I really wanted to see his Spinal since it's really crazy. At least Domi will be there.
>>343136995
>misquote me
>to make your point seem sensible
Is it cherry picking to just pick the first hitboxes I saw with varying priorities and attacking directions?
>>343137002
Gief's hitbox for that move is shrunken because he's immune to projectiles during it, it has very long active frames and hit advantage and pretty quick recovery. If they made his hitbox bigger the move would be way too good. Again something capcom keeps in mind with hitboxes and something overlooked in smash games. A move like marth's attack in street fighter would make that character top tier given they had even the most modestly useful kits.
>>343137598
nice opinion
>>343137725
How do you not like
>FOOT-FOOT DIVE
>YOU HAVE NO HOPE
>PLASMA BEAM
>dat infinite
>FAILURE IS BENEATH DOOOOM
>>343137598
Sorry the intricacies of the game are lost on you. Hope smash matches are hype for you.
>>343137598
Way to make it apparent you've never played the game, sperg.
>Pokken
>TWO Smash games
Melee fags need to fuck off, and Pokken needs to fuck off.
And MvC needs to fuck off.
Wish they could save one spot for fans/players to vote for main stage.
>>343137976
>SPHERE FLARE YOU WILL NOT ESCAPE
>>343137923
>opinion
>"""KI is a fighting game"""
worse than mobafags
>>343138049
like what?
>"i'm in a 340 hit combo in spectator mod-"
>falls asleep in chair and wakes up 400 more hits into the combo an hour later
>C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER LOL DUDE ITS A MEME
>340 zero damage combo on the enemy
>ULTRARAAARARARAR ACC-C-C-C-OMBO BREAKER DUDE LMAO
how can you defend this shit?
>>343138312
So you want to kick the best fighting game out (Melee) and you want to keep Smash 4? What are you fuckign retarded?
>>343137227
First off, you can escape with slight DI which confuses the Marth and shine them just in case
Second, after some %s, Marth can no longer chaingrab
>>343135978
That's not how priority works in Smash, other points aside, but since we're posting hitboxes now:
http://dammit.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a8bc3caf970b0134875ddc64970c-600wi
http://www.ufe3d.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/character:character_hitbox_mc.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5Ur1Yir2Xvk/TGi9L1bqW9I/AAAAAAAAAQg/7WjSj_ulYmI/s1600/sfa3hitboxes.png
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/12/30_umvc3hitbox01.jpg
Yes, such balance brings me nearly to tears.
hyped as fuck for pokken, just as long as there's minimal zoners and a good sceptile or garchomp player or two
>>343137227
I'm not the person you originally replied to- the only thing I've done is refute your point about chaingrabbing. I couldn't honestly care less what term you use when talking about Smash, because clearly your understanding of it is surface-level. You also don't know what a strawman is.
>>343138396
>Best fighting game
>Melee
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>343138372
what people can't have fun in fighting games or something
>>343138429
>Marvel
>Alpha
>Marvel again
Are you even trying?
>>343138580
Name 1 game that comes anywhere near close to how good Melee is. You literally can't. It really is a masterpiece
>>343138595
people can have fun in fighting games. but you have to play a fighting game that has the ability to be fun. KI is absolute garbage, and the $37 grand finals pot will show that.
>>343138580
great post
>>343137891
>A move like marth's attack in street fighter would make that character top tier given they had even the most modestly useful kits.
But see, that's the point, it isn't Street Fighter so those hitboxes are acceptable (although there are some that aren't)
>>343138654
Guilty Gear.
>>343138654
Dong Dong Never Dies
>>343138636
Are you going to say those are not fighting games?
>>343138654
Guilty Gear blows it away. Also it's actually a fighting game.
>>343138372
Sounds like Divekick is what you're proficient in. That's fine, casual games are fitting for you.
>>343117860
No.
AnimEVO? Yes
>>343138372
You should probably say meme again to drive home your point more. It sure doesn't highlight your ignorance.
>>343138654
Project M is the only thing that stands within 5 tiers of melee.
>>343138732
>Great post.
Great game.Not really though.
>>343138372
>300 hit combo
>Does no damage
You can literally just admit you've never played, or even watched the game competitively you memeing retard. Most combos in competitve games don't even go past 20 unless you have a counter breaker set up with full meter.
>>343138732
>Smashkiddies
>Talking about what is and isn't a fighting game
>>343138636
>I mention it cause as bad as you perceive hitboxes in other fighting games they are factually worse in smash games.
Did I misread your post, or were you just talking out of your ass again? I mean, in >>343135978 you also bring up recovery frames, etc, while not considering the massive disadvantage on shield Marth fsmash has, the recovery frames on it, etc. If you want to argue that Jigglypuff's up-air is not balanced, I suppose I'd agree with you- but it seems like you're trying to draw a line in the sand that isn't based on anything particularly grounded in an objective reality.
>>343138780
Old and wildly unbalanced fighting games, yes.
At least get some from USFIV.
>>343139031
I thought the argument was about what is and what isn't a fighting game, anon. Those are clearly fighting games
>>343117954
>smash players shit the pool
>>343138897
>never once defends his game
pathetic beta male
>>343138850
i've never played divekick and i can already tell it has more depth than KI. probably would have a bigger pot bonus at evo too
>>343139031
It's hard to take your point seriously when what is listed as a disqualifying factor for Melee is only an unbalancing factor for other games. Does a fighting game need to be balanced to be a fighting game? Does MvC count? Does GG? SFa3? You do remember what the conversation was originally about, yes?
>>343137768
(You're free reply)
>>343138740
A move like that in ANY fighting game would be ridiculous because it's obscenely stupid to have a move like that in a fighting game. It has a hitbox so far away from his hurtbox that the priority ensures it hits most any move it collides with. It takes up much area that it's an anti-air, poke, meaty attack, and combo move. It's brainlessly good and demonstrates a complete lack of understanding to put in hitbox data like that.
>>343139330
But it's not in any fighting game, it's in Melee, you have to compare it with things in Melee, not with things in other fighting games
>>343137540
Easy to understand yet hard to play, so it attracts a lot of retarded fans that don't actually play the games. Basically you get a lot of Smash shitposting where it isn't needed.
Talking about Melee by the way, Smash 4 is bland as fuck.
I hope Japan does bring their best of the best for EVO especially some MKX players that could take down SonicFox
Smash fags better not scream during GG this year.
>>343139209
Nobodies bothering to refute any of your "points" because you didn't make any retard. You just spouted retarded memes while being ignorant of how the game even works. Now fuck off to your shit pool or even better, take a shower.
>>343139320
>>343139267
>>343138953
>>343138897
>>343138595
>>343138157
>>343138049
>>343138283
>>343137923
>>343134795
How is it possible none of you even attempted to defend your game? What is wrong with you people?
>>343139239
I'm not the guy you were originally arguing with I just thought the argument was about shitty hitboxes in competitive games having no semblance of balance.
>>343139239
To make it seriously competitive? Sure, balance is a huge thing. I'm also not the guy you were originally fighting with.
>>343139135
>can't defend smash being bullshit
>b-but look these other old games are also bullshit
>yes they are, no one was defending those games though
>b-but what's a real fighting game
Marvel is right after smash in people saying it should be dropped because it's bullshit and Alpha 3 turns 18 years old literally tomorrow
>>343139330
Again, you don't understand how priority works in Smash, let alone your assertion that fsmash is a combo move (too slow at low %, too much kb at high %). Please take a cursory glance at high level Melee, I think you'll find it's almost never used in neutral except as a movement read, because whiffing it creates a huge punish opportunity.
>>343139568
Nobody insulted my game, though. I'm attacking their game.
>>343139568
>implying I give a shit
>implying I actually take these abysmal threads seriously
It's the same shit every time, I'm just here to rile people and collect my free replies.
>>343139568
like i said idiots trying to shit on ki and mk
>>343139668
The argument was about whether Smash is a fighting game or not. Someone said it's not because it has "bad hitboxes". Someone else posts "actual fighting games" which also have "bad hitboxes". You shouldn't jump into conversations like that when you don't know what people are arguing about.
>>343139606
That's fair enough- no one's going to argue that Melee is the pinnacle of balance, only that a 15-year-old metagame means everything unbalanced except a few notable exceptions (shine) has been figured out and countered with movement tricks, etc. The size of the attack is large, but it represents a high risk move that is only high reward when the opponent is at high percent so that it can be used to kill or set up an edgeguard.
>>343139460
>implying melee is a fighting game still
It's a flashy party game with a small amount of tech, it was fun in its day but every one but the autists moved on
>>343139763
>KIfags spend all of their time shitposting because they can master the "tech" in 12 minutes and there is nobody to play against
>>343139783
MK has block buttons, and ground/bounce combos are a dumb mechanic, but at least it has character diversity and a few things going for it. KI literally has NOTHING.
>>343124826
How the fuck do you do that?
>Yeah, I wanna cut a hole in one of your doors so guys can put their penis through it
>>343139939
>pinnacle of balance
Aren't there only like 10 viable characters?
>>343139945
>not being autistic enough to understand the depth of tech skill and applications Melee has
Maybe it's just the way things were meant to be.
>>343138732
>$37 grand finals
But it has 10k spread out for its majors this year
>>343139939
>no one's going to argue that Melee is the pinnacle of balance
I'd hope not. Because it isn't.
>>343140001
that's the most retarded reason to hate a game or maybe you are just ass at the game
>>343139945
(you)
>>343139547
I'm so sick and tired of Alien.
At least when he used Kitana and Erron Black he had to try but with Alien he doesn't have to work hard for his won one single bit due to how stupid the guest character is.
>>343139885
I read the whole thing, and the smash autist focused in on one thing to try and prove it was a real and good fighting game
The best the autist could do was say "look we do things bad fighting games do" while ignoring the depth of systems in those games that smash lacks
>>343140084
Technically, it's like 15 or something but the dude's point is that it ISN'T balanced
>>343138463
>Never played Pokken
>Decide to watch out of curiosity for a bit
>mfw watching Sceptile play
Hell, even water dog (don't know it's name) and the chandelier thing were fun to watch even if they were zoners.
>>343139939
I wouldn't give Melee points for balancing, one of the problems with the game going for so long is it is so fleshed out you are sort of left to min-max. Of course not everyone does this but for the most part it is spacies/marth/sheik/falcon. I will say that it has the most tech out of any fighter hands down.
>>343140114
Nice so all of its majors totaled up to a college salty suite for smash, what a booming thriving game!
>>343140165
>tumblr gif
Fitting for a KIshitter.
>>343140174
>smash autists can't even (you) right
>>343140286
Oh, I thought he was dicking with me. I'm forgetting English.
>>343140084
You might want to re-read my post there homie. Among top players pretty much no one uses anything outside the top 15 characters.
>>343140154
Yeah. Glad we agree.
>>343140249
I pointed out that you are using things totally unrelated to your point to try to prove your point, then showed you it was unrelated by showing that fighting games do the same things. It's disappointing that you say these things while at the same time not understanding the mechanics of Smash enough to acknowledge the differences in systems as basic as priority.
>>343140387
keep crying bitch nigga
>>343140249
>the smash autist focused in on one thing to try and prove it was a real and good fighting game
No it wasn't like that at all. He just stated he was tired of the same argument about hitboxes was being made again when hitboxes in "real fighting games" are dumb too. You really shouldn't jump into conversations like that
>>343140625
Stay free kid, just like your game.
>>343140185
He played Erron Black through Top 8. Using Alien, he was exposed by UA | Scar using Sonya Blade.
He will use Alien when he's comfortable. If the Japanese want to beat him in his own game use Sonya, Cassie or Mileena.
>>343140714
coming from a idiot that knows nothing about the game and probably going buy what somebody told him
>>343118550
They do side tournaments for games that already have fazed out. Don't get your pannies in a bunch.
>>343140387
The main problem with Smash's balance is that everything lined up perfectly for Fox in terms of utility- so even when he wasn't winning nationals, everyone knew someday people were going to be whooping ass with Fox. That said, Fox has plenty of weaknesses to exploit, and some of the lower tier characters have an easier time of it with him than with someone like Falcon who isn't considered absolutely top tier. There are some really terrible matchups in the game as well, but consider the advancements even now of the Jiggs meta, or Marth. There are still improvements and discoveries to be made, and that alone is pretty compelling.
>>343137598
>600 hit combos that do no damage
Pic RELATED
>random breakers and shit
Sure, just spam breakers if you want to be counter broken into the shit pile that you belong in
>announcer talking about nothing
Oh no, it's not like you can turn the announcer off or anything
>L I T E R A L meme characters
You really are pretty fucking autistic
>footsie game for toddlers
Back it up with an actual statement or even the slightest hint that you've actually played the game and I might actually consider refuting this
>not even any cool combos or unique characters
>Aganos, Omen, Fulgore, Kan Ra, Aria, Hisako, Mira, and Gargos are generic
Also
>What is the bomb loop
>What is Shago instinct shadow generation juggles
>What are TJ flipout crossup combos
>What is Tusk instinct special cancels fuckery
>>343140561
Im not the guy you started arguing with in the first place but he was right the entire time
He gave a list of things smash lacked to be considered a real fighting game and backed it up, your entire defense was "this non fighting game and this side game made after SF3 also have bad hit boxes which means smash is a fighting game" while ignoring the depth smash lacks that fighting games have
You tried to reduce to while argument to a single issue since it was the easiest way to sperg out but not everyone is an autist like you
It's like saying apples and oranges are the same because they both have seeds
>>343141154
Not that guy, but I've been interested in KI for a while but I'm poor as fuck.
Post Mira and Kim webms
>>343141214
>this non fighting game and this side game made after SF3 also have bad hit boxes which means smash is a fighting game
nobody ever said that
>>343141154
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj_AyUKLeno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CNCR09Umqk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRp8SOoapwc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIBIS7l7Gtg
There are like 3 actual fighting games on that entire roster and all of them are bad
Guilty Gear could maybe have held the fort if it wasn't for YRC
What a sad time for fighting games
>>343124189
>>343124364
you have no clue what your talking about at. The game is really tough to play on high level once you know what your doing.
>>343141214
You really ought to keep up- I interjected in that conversation specifically about hitboxes, and haven't spoken about anything else. I wasn't who he was responding to, and I wasn't the one who initially asserted that Smash was a fighting game. I pointed out that really, when it comes to shit hitboxes, they're not something confined to Smash, and provided a couple of examples. To be honest, the way he's talking you'd assume Marths and Jigglypuffs are spamming those moves, but because of depth that he ignored they do not do so, because those moves are terrible and beg to be punished if used in neutral. Interesting to note that you don't consider MvC a fighting game though!
>>343141316
He posted frames from marvel and sfa3, that is exactly that
The marvel fans dont argue anywhere near as hard as the smash autists do that their game isn't just a flashy spectacle, and there's nothing wrong with a spectacle just call it what it is instead of pretending it's something else
>people still think pokken is casualshit just because it's nintendo
>>343141641
He just posted some pictures arguing about hitboxes. He never said anything like what you posted.
>>343141407
The only games there that are even arguably not fighting games are sm4sh and melee
>>343141740
>Wii U
>Implying Pokken isn't shit
>>343141858
>it's on a console i don't like therefore it's shit
literally your post
>>343141842
The western ones are also utterly dysfunctional at best and then there's Marvel where I shouldn't even need to say anything
I suppose not fighting games was a bit extremely, let's just pretend I said shit fighting games
>>343141406
>Novelty shit that is never ever actually used in gameplay
Wow, you showed me kid.
>>343141406
So... DDR anyone?
>>343142090
>n-no such thing as a 300 hit combo!
>2603 combo
Again you have no argument.
>>343142065
I own a Wii U.
>tfw I play many fighting games
>tfw we can't get along
Post your games and mains, /v/!
Melee: Ice Climbers, Peach.
GG: Jack-O
MvC: Morrighan, Doom, Vergil
SFV: R.Mika
Skullgirls: Peacock
Jojo (dreamcast): Hol Horse
Just the ones I'm currently playing.
>>343142441
I don't have anything against any of those games!! But we can't get along, because you play Ice Climbers.
>>343142441
>Ice Climbers,
no wonder you can't get along with anyone you cancerous redditor
>>343142441
no hell no I'm not going to be friends with an Ice Climbers player
>>343141406
>Ultra
LMAO I bet getting fatal'd rustles your jimmies too
>>343142441
Wow not naming any names but someone is a fraudulent piece of shit
>>343142441
SFV: Ryu (looking for secondary)
Skullgirls: Squigly/Filia
Wish I had more time for other fighters. Definitely gonna watch all grand finals at Vegas like last year.
>>343142598
>>343142645
>>343142716
>2016
>still crying over ICs
Don't get grabbed
>>343119914
>Smash Wiiu
>>343142264
Every single video you showed is the equivalent of a fatality/brutality. Why does an end match combo for stylin' on your foe matter?
>>343143235
who cares how it ends? there is a 2-30 minute combo
>>343117860
>melee
when will this meme end
>>343143090
>2016
>still being so defensive about being ICs that you assume everyone hates you because of wobbling
We hate you because you reduce neutral to "don't get grabbed".For real though, don't be so defensive.
>>343117860
I really just wish 3rd Strike was still a thing.
>>343142264
>No such thing
Literally nobody said that you autist but in reality yes, there is no such thing as an actual 300 hit combo in KI, it's literally impossible since no characters moves add that little KV. The shit you showed were ultras, which aren't actual combos that do any damage, they're literally just a way to fuck with people at the end of a match and you will rarely ever see even one full ultra online unless you have pissed someone off.
Im gonna boo every game that isnt Smash 4 LOL me and my friends are bringing vuvuzelas too
>>343143506
Every new melee tournament breaks a record for amount of entries. Its only getting more popular despite its age.
>>343144061
>This was the 420th reply
HA HA XD
>>343142441
>Literally the worst,most hated and annoying characters of every single one of those games
Jesus christ dude, i don't wanna get along with you.
>>343143506
Melee is really entertaining to watch competitively. There's so much tech to appreciate.
>smash is getting bigger and bigger every year
>soon it'll take over the FGC
I can't wait.
>>343144393
Smash wont take over the FGC. They will probably keep sharing venues so TOs are able to acquire even bigger venues though. But FGC games attendance need to catch up, otherwise it's gonna be SMASH + a bit of the FGC
>>343144393
>soon it'll take over the FGC
it already did, just look at the entrants in every tournament. smash is more than all other games combined
>>343130349
As bad as Melee is, it's still better than 4.
>>343142441
>>343142756
MKX: Kotal
Skullgirls: Eliza/Double/Valentine
Jojo HFOF: Jotaro
Pokken: Weavile
I don't into smash competitively but mewtwo
>>343137768
(you)
>>343141740
No, they think it's casualshit because it is.
>>343142441
Tekken: Kunimitsu/Yoshimitsu, Jack, King
Mortal Kombat: Reptile, Goro/Sheeva, Mileena, Sektor, Torr (sans Ferra)
Used to play Baraka back when MK hit dark times (MKvsDC)
I like melee.
Hitting fuckers in the face with Ganondorf is just too much fun.
Shame I have to like sit on shield and play defensively for like 90% of the match
Low tier struggle
Next year Mahvel will get replaced by Injustice 2, Pokken will get replaced by KoFXIV, Smash 4 replaced by DOA5LR, and Melee replaced by BlazBlue CF.
Screencap this.
>>343137768
I have to agree with this. The amount of technical skill you need to play melee can literally destroy your hands. That's how intense it is.
>>343145131
I liked Injustice more than MK. Why did people not like the 1st one? They always say "style" but the game looked great.
>>343142441
KI: Shago, Tusk, Hisako
GG: May
SFV: Bison, Vega
Smash: Kirby
>>343142441
>Smash: Dankey kang
>Tekken: Feng, Law, Bryan, King
>SF: Blanka, Urien
>MK: Raiden, Erron Black
>>343142441
Tekken: Dragunov, Bryan
SF: Ryu, Cammy, Akuma
GG: Faust
KOF: Kim/Iori/Yuri
>>343145131
>Smash replace by Dead on Arrival 5
I dont even like smash and you still are retarded in my eyes
Also
>melee getting replaced
>>343145131
Unless MKX actually makes a KP3 and it's not as garbage as the last one was then no Injustice will be replacing X and I imagine the NRS players are just itching to make the jump.
>>343145131
>DOA5
Fucking kek
Why do people still spout the whole melee is not technical bullshit?
Melee even has motions for moves, you know? But they're not as evident.
Example, doing an Up-air is simple pressing Up+A/C-stick Up while in the air, but depending how and where you do it, certain things change.
Example you can do a Shield Drop UpAir, which requires an extremely sensitive 632 motion (if you do it wrong you spot dodge) followed frame perfectly by C-stick Up preferably.
Or when you're at the ledge you can do a Ledge UpAir, which would vary depending on character. Some would need to do a 4+jump+6+Aerial, all in a matter of a couple frames. Some can even do aerials to regrab ledge, which is a 478+upAir as fast as possible or you miss your regrab (Ganondorf, for example).
And don't even get me started on the retarded bullshit of Spacies Pressure inputs.
>>343144967
It's not, though. What makes you think it is?
>>343145953
Nobody outside of contrarian faggots or people who are legitimately just ignorant thinks melee or smash in general isn't technical or doesn't take skill
A lot of people realize it is does and is, but just doesn't feel it qualifies as a fighting game purely based on not fitting in the confines of the genre neatly. That's not necessarily a jab at the game's level of depth.
>>343146086
Because it's a fucking arena fighter that has all the depth of a kiddie pool
>>343145953
>And don't even get me started on the retarded bullshit of Spacies Pressure inputs.
Please do.
>>343146086
I'm sorry, but a fighting game that adds 6f of startup to ANY MOVE when done from neutral is not a good game.
>>343145131
>Melee getting replaced
>any year
kek
>>343132494
Mahvel over pokken and this nigga has it
>>343117860
No.
I stopped being hype for EVO since 2013.
>>343146479
SFV has 8frames of delay, what's your point?
>>343146324
>it's a fucking arena fighte
Confirmed for not knowing what you are are even talking about.
80% of any given round in pokken takes place in the 2d phase, which is as much of a 2d fighter as street fighter is. The 3d phase doesn't even play or control like an arena fighter.
>that has all the depth of a kiddie pool
Considering you don't even know what fucking subgenre of fighting game the game is I don't see why i'd trust your opinion on the level of depth it has, but go ahead, explain why it lacks depth.
>>343146479
Not sure what you are talking about, anon. There are no moves in pokken that have varying amounts of startup frames based on shit that I know of., much less how a game would even "detect" when the round has gone back to neutral or not, especially since depending on what characters are being used, a return to neutral could be either in duel or field phase
>>343142441
>Melee: The Puff, IC (only with friends, non competitive)
>Sm4sh: Cloud, Ness, Wario
>KoF: Iori/Mr Karate(Takuma)/Athena
>GG: Baiken, Sol, GGXrd Kye
>Jojo HftF: Jotaro, Vanilla Iced, Hol Horse
>Skullgirls: Eliza/Squigly
>Bloody Roar: Gado/Shenlong
>Mahvel 3: Nova/Dante/Captunamerica
>SFV: Rashid
>>343146885
Input delay =/= startup frames
How can you even compare the two.
SFV jabs still come out on frame 3 in the actual game. Pokken Jabs come out on like frame 11.
>>343146945
Pokken has a system where any attack done from neutral (not from wakeup/after block) has an extra 6frames added to its startup frames.
>>343146945
Apparently you're too retarded to even know what your own subgenre is, not like i'm surprised by a fucking pokkenfag.
>1 day till registration closes
>still no "Welcome to the 1k Club, GGXrd"
Feels bad, man
>>343144861
>Kotal
I respect your choice.
>>343147038
>tfw bloody roar is dead
>tfw even if it came back it'd be a fucking mobile game or a pachinko machine since konami owns hudson
mfw
>>343147136
>Pokken has a system where any attack done from neutral (not from wakeup/after block) has an extra 6frames added to its startup frames.
I wasn't aware of that at all, when was this discovered? Is there a breakdown of this somewhere I can read in more detail about?
So I recently got into GG because of a melee friend who's a bigger GG player.
Are there any good resources on youtube and stuff for GG? Shit like SSBM Tutorials and shit.
As far as animu fightes go I have played Melty and Persona. I also play SF. Melee doesn't really transfer anything.
This is what it needs to look like
>>343147359
I share your pain, brother.
I truly share your pain.
>>343147359
You know, the thing about dead games is that it's actually easy to revive them.
Pick you favorite Blood Road game. Talk with people that might be interested in it. At least 8.
Schedule to meet at ANY fgc major and run a small side tournament. Bam, you just started a grass roots scene.
If even Vampire Savior and Melty manages to stay alive, as well as fucking TEKKEN BALL, you can do it.
Not gonna lie, it's never gonna stop irking me that there's 2 smash games on the main stage but just one game for all the other franchises. I don't *really* care for 3rd strike or ST, I don't *really* care for MvC2, I don't *really* care for accent core. Not enough to cry about none of them making the main stage, that is. And I mean there's other contenders, Blazblue, Skullgirls maybe.
But no, 2 smash games. Which nobody from the "rest" of the FGC really plays. And the guys who play those don't play any of the "classic" fighters either. But "they" get 2 games. I try really not to make it out to be an invasion or whatever but I just think the smash guys don't fit at Evo. They have their own big events. Why come to Evo and take not one, but 2 slots. Why couldn't one of those have been a side tourney. I just don't get it.
And I play some smash casually, it's a fun game, and the community seems nice and all too but it's just sooo different, it doesn't satisfy my particular competitive gaming itch, in the same sense that a RTS game or shooter doesn't. I just don't get it. Why did the smash players feel the need to get in on Evo, and why are they getting 2 slots on top of that, it just doesn't make any sense to me. It's a different community, which plays a different kind of game, period.
>watching Smash stream
>'this sux when is guilty gear'
>'check your local graveyard'
savage af
>>343119724
Tokido is wrecking fools in Tekken with Akuma. He might become an unexpected champion this year
>>343147901
While I agree you need to understand WHY they are there.
Melee is there because it gained its place, which seems fair to me. That and the game is extremely complex on a technical level, which to me seems fine for a game clashing with titans like SF.
Also keep in mind that melee is an anomaly. Further smash games removed about 90% of the game's depth, so they're barely competitive in comparison.
The problem is Smash4. The community didn't "gain" its place on EVO. Nintendo literally paid for its inclusion. That and Mr.Wizard likes money way too much.
This is an issue of greed. It's not even a game issue, or a community issue. It's money.
>>343147901
Mr. Wizard only cares about money, and Smash money is as green as anyone elses.
>>343147901
Melee and Smash are completely two different games. It's like saying SF is the same game as Guilty Gear.
>>343125909
It's almost like those belts all look the fucking same
>>343125581
I wonder what a person who writes this kind of post does to kill time in their fun and interesting life
>>343147926
Whose Akuma is better in T7, Tokido or Poongko?
I heard Poongko's Akuma is pretty beastly in T7 in CEO just last week.
>>343147923
zozzle
>>343148412
I don't really see it but I guess that just further solidifies what I mean when I say Smash is a different genre than "traditional fighting games"
>>343148771
Which it is. It's a Platform Fighter. Just how like we have Arena fighters.
People need to stop being so focused on calling it a fighting game. Too many people go off a nebulous tangent of what a "fighting game" is.
>>343148517
IMO Tokido is better, I also think he has a lot more experience in Tekken, he spent a lot of time playing T6.
Akuma will wreck shit on this Evo either way, DPs are too good.
>>343148987
What I'm trying to say is it doesn't fit in with the rest of the Evo titles.
https://twitter.com/EvilMrWizard/status/739853910530101248
>Xrd top 8 is right before Melee top 8 just like in CEO
Oh, God. Get ready for another round of Melee babies whining about waiting for Xrd to finish.
>Two(2, dos) Smash games
>One Pokken
>Not one BlazBlue
>Not one Skullgirls
For fuck's sake.I like Melee too, but it's clearly taking up space from other games.
>>343149375
And SF babies whining about waiting for Sm4sh to finish. It happens with every game and fanbase. Twitch does not equal the entire community, you retard.
>>343149497
>Twitch
Except it also happened at the venue.
I already know Tokido and Infiltration will be in the Grand Finals again so I'm not looking forward to the event.
>>343117860
>7 nip games
>Played on nip consoles
Are the US even trying?
>>343149571
We're all shitters.
>>343149497
Pretty sure he means specifically what happened at the venue itself during CEO.
>>343149586
I doubt it.
PR Rog will be in GF.
>>343149375
>"When's Mahvel?"
>Classic FGC
>"When's Melee?"
>"I can't believe the disrespect they show us!"
>>343149571
They booed when it was announced it was delayed 90 minutes, and then cheered when the MC asked them if they were ready for Melee. The crowd was fine during the finals.
>>343149375
>even after CEO officials have said it a thousand times people are still on about this shit
I was there watching some sick Sin vs Raven GFs action while waiting for melee.
Right before GG top 8 started, the MC announced that melee was going to be delayed, to which the crowd booed at.
Then after GG was over (but before the ceremony) the MC asked the crowd if they were ready for melee, to which they chanted MELEE MELEE MELEE.
Blame the MC.
>>343147815
Not that anon, but
>at least 8
You're asking a lot
>ANY fgc major
>tfw all fg major tourneys in my city are corportate esport shit with SF and Smash tackled on them
Smash 64 = King of Fighters
Smash Melee = Street Fighter
Smash Brawl = Soku
Smash Project M = Guilty Gear
Smash 4 = Street Fighter x Tekken
Prove me wrong
>>343150060
Soku?
>>343147606
In Youtube, you have
novriltataki - Guilty Gear Crash Course and Airdash Academy for all the basic shit you need to play anime fighters and GG from scratch.
jiyunajp - memes
www.keeponrock.in - high tier japanese pros duking it out. Use this for character reference.
Dustloop Wiki - overview and frame data of moves, properties and strats per character. Avoid dustloop forum like the plague
>>343133087
lmao mkx is fucking trash why is that garbage at evo again?
>>343150337
Hisoutensoku, the popular official Touhou Fighter that /jp/ loves but is garbage.
>>343150337
the greatest fighting game of all time
just like brawl
>>343150060
soku is actually good though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4wf4JJwroY
>>343150060
SSB64 = ST
SSBM = 3S
SSBB = SFIV
SSBPM = U3S
SSB4 = SFV
>>343150589
>>343150683
Oh, moetrash
>>343150831
>moetrash
wut
A lot more people are interested in T7 after CEO it seems
>>343150589
>>343150683
Man I can't enjoy those games with tiny ass characters and limbs.
>>343150589
>>343150683
looks gay as fuck man you play as a little girl
SFV Top 8 prediction?
Tokido
Daigo
Infiltration
MomochiSonicfox
Fchamp
FuudoMarn
>>343124826
L U X O R
>>343150956
The joke is that it's a meh but fun fighter with shitty RNG that ruins the entire thing.
>>343150860
Exactly.
>>343150996
>Looking at little girls is gay
>Preferring to look at men isn't
>>343139568
Nobody is stupid enough to fall for such a ridiculous bait.
>>343151080
How random is it?
Like ST or completely stupidly random with a large window?
>>343147606
Make sure you do the tutorial, mission, and combo modes for your character. Unlike most other fighting games they actually provide tons of valuable information. If you're wondering what character to use look up Lordknight's character overview on youtube.
>>343150342
Thanks, man.
>>343137768
>He never played GG or MvC2
K E K
>>343151273
The game has random "weather" effects that happen after a random amount of time and occur for a random amount of time that completely change the dynamics of the game. For example, one weather effect makes it impossible to block but also removes hitstun completely.
In addition to that, supers/moves/"items" are presented as a deck of cards that you set up before you start the match, you have 20 cards for each set, and your meter fills up a total of 5 cards at a time.
>>343151478
HOLYFUCK
Could be fun as casual though. But those tinyass limbs...
>>343151651
It's a four-button fighter not counting the buttons for cards. It has a physical attack button, a weak-projectile button, a strong-projectile button, and a dash button. Dashing makes you immune to projectiles, but open for physical attacks.
It's pretty much the touhou fighter nobody asked for but still managed to be faithful to the series. Every character uses projectiles for most of the fight.
It's worth the pirate imo
>>343117860
>pokken
why?
>>343151989
Money.
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