Activision gets Orion pulled from Steam over stolen assets.
>Trek Industries’ open-world sci-fi shooter Orion has been pulled from Steam, thanks to a DMCA takedown request, according to the game’s developer. The game allegedly uses certain assets from Activision’s Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 and Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare.
>David Prassel of Trek Industries posted an update to one of the studio’s other games on Steam, Orion: Prelude, saying Orion (aka The Orion Project) was pulled from sale after a copyright claim.
>Prassel cites a portion of the takedown request in his post, which says the notice was issued "on behalf of Activision, who alleges that the game Orion uses weapon art content from Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 and Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare. The weapon art in question includes the M8A7 rifle, the Haymaker rifle, and the Bal-27 rifle."
Orion was pulled without advance notice from Activision or Valve, Prassel said, in the middle of Steam’s ongoing sale. Orion was being sold for $0.49, down from its regular price of $0.99.
http://pastebin.com/0yr5PAjk
who cares
They don't even look the same though
At least use the comparison pic anon made you fucking retard.
>>343074149
This
It's a fucking 99 cent game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntxKRj9DRnc
>>343074042
Good. Fuck these lazy, shitty indie devs who steal content.
I have a friend who makes 'music' and literally all he does is steal other peoples work, throws it into FL Studio or similar and adjusts it enough to make it sound different and then goes around calling himself a songwriter and a producer.
Fuck these talentless hacks.
>>343074042
FK I just realized that, gonna read more
>>343074415
well yea right now it is.
It was arround 15-20$ in JAN, i got it as a gift back then tho from a 4channer
I know it's easy to immediately assume Activision are being dicks, but they actually have a case here.
The head dev for Trek is a well know Russian piece of shit. He's been caught constantly stealing assets from other games before. Been doing it for years actually, since all the way back in the Half-Life 1 modding days.
This gun isn't even the worst of it. In the cash shop for Orion, there are a shit ton of copyrighted hats that are assets ripped straight from other games. They're straight up making profit off those.
So I have like 0.90 euro left should I but that shit?
>>343074750
it's taken down from the store.
all that's left are the other orion games.
Thomas Moreau, a contracted 3D artist (from France, so excuse the English), told Cucktaku:
I was contacted by David Prassel email one year ago on this work, after receiving my typical 25% deposit of $ 500 I began on work. Around a month later, I finished the work and sent it to Prassel, after some modifications, he agreed and said it was finished. He was supposed to send me the rest of the payment that week, but he never did.
I asked him a few days after the money was due, and he said they were subject to tax work and need another week. It was strange for me, but I said OK. Two weeks came but without any reply. I sent him again, but he never responded in one year now. Instead of paying or responding, he ignores me and then uses some of my models in the game.
Composer Marcus Zuhr is another claiming to have been burned by Spiral during development of the game.
David used me, my contacts, and my music to further his agenda for over a year. We had fairly lofty profit sharing agreements at the time, including a salary and company shares. I set him up with many meeting through my own industry contacts, and flew from Canada on my own dime to help in San Francisco and Seattle multiple times on business. After his successful Kickstarter (utilizing my music of course), and our meetings at GDC 2011, he promptly "fired" me. David continued to use my music, against my will, until I properly threatened legal action.
>>343074825
You mean ORION: Prelude?Its on the store what are you on about?
>>343074920
no, that's not orion.
orion is just named orion.
orion was taken down from the store.
>>343074920
>>343074987
Yep it was the new game they released in JAN
first name: Guardians of Orion
then: The Orion Proyect
final name(at least until now): ORION
>tfw bought it two days ago for $0.50
>it is now a rare game
I love owning games that get pulled from steam
>>343074920
orion:prelude is the first game
This one is the new one they did or were doing
Not too long ago, a video was released of Orion: Prelude containing what looks to be an exact copy of Natural Selection 2′s armory. It was quickly made private and a new edited version put up when people started questioning the origins of said armory. News quickly arose that the armory was an “inspired” placeholder which had made its way into the demo build for PAX.
This isn’t the first time Spiral Studios had been accused of stealing content. Many alleged models and weapon sounds (which have an uncanny likeness to Counter-Strike might I add) are said to be taken from countless other games, and this has been a constant throughout the development of the Orion series. According to some, they took a T-Rex render from Primal Carnage and skewed the portions slightly, retextured it, and redid the head. You don’t need sharp eyes to spot just how similar the models are; just by looking at the feet and scales you can tell it’s a copy/paste job. I can imagine Spiral Studios’ lack of appearance at the Game Developers Conference was sorely missed by many an indie dev who were ready to shower them with praise and placeholders alike.
>>343075135
Lmao its multiplayer only, shit is gonna be deader than usual now.
>>343074920
I have orion prelude and its kinda shitty.
Fighting dinosaurs could've been great but instead it is shit but whatever it was like $1
>>343075319
Eh, I don't care about actually playing it. Just having them is enough.
It'll go nicely next to my APB Retail and Dragon Age II. There's a bunch of other ones I wish I had, too.
http://steamcommunity.com/games/104900/announcements/detail/834671877730848265
>That being said, we will be ensuring that Activision covers for the damages they've inflicted, both by removal of the game during the largest event of the year as well as malicious and invalid claims which acted as slander and defamation.
But we will ensuring this in a way that doesn't have us wasting time in a courtroom, obliterating production - and still allows to develop the game at full speed.
We will be starting a crowdfunding event later today. This is to cover:
1. what we are missing out on the largest event.
2. the damages we've taken on from Activision.
>We will be starting a crowdfunding event later today. This is to cover:
>1. what we are missing out on the largest event.
2. the damages we've taken on from Activision.
>>343075410
but in your case, you have it as a gift in your inv or is it in your library like mine?
https://i.sli.mg/xpIy1W.png
>file size too big
They literally stole assets and cry for the Internet to help fight back big bad Activision.
After Orion Dino Beatdown these guys can suck a dick.
Who cares?
>>343075442
>starting a crowdfunding event
Jesus Christ howjewish
>>343075670
Kys
So, is this going to be the next Limbo of the Lost?
It's early access yeah?
Why not just claim they were placeholder weapons they liked the look of?
its 3 names
>>343075442
>>343075706
WTF, fking jewish
>>343075537
Library
Sad note: I just went to update this, and if I hit save it doesn't actually display APB anymore. It just leaves a blank on my actual profile.
>>343075748
Why do you care? Both games suck, you don't earn karma here, so why do you care about some dumb squabble?
>Orion
And nothing of value was lost
Got the game for 49c so I can't be too upset. Devs latest post tells me that the game isn't going any further than it is now though, that's a shame.
Surprised it took so long with stuff like this in the game.
>>343075869
that's because the botchling that APB: reloaded is, has replaced it.
feels bad buying into the dream for the servers to shut down.
>>343075869
i havent lookd a it recently,
What was its symbol, it is now like this
>>343076489
God, I will always be mad about that.
"APB has released!.. btw we have no money for operating costs and will be shutting down in a month"
It was my dream game for the longest time. APB:R at least let me keep my clothes but fuck it's some Pay2win bullshit
lmao he's deleting all negative comments in the steam discussion @ Orion Prelude.
>>343074042
Those aren't the same assets though
You can see clear differences in the models
But I guess now Activision and other large development companies have the power to do whatever the fuck they want now and removing a 99 cent game is apparently this important
Might as well remove any game that uses the same real world guns as them at this rate
>>343076937
David James pls go
>>343076724
LOL thousands of negative comments on Orion:Prelude about this shit
KEKS
>>343076473
Nickl Helmet is the Blood Dragon helmet from Mass Effect 2/3
>>343077082
The only thing that's the same in that comparison is the top piece. Everything else is different. And even then a lot of video game guns are designed with similar top pieces.
>>343076937
>Might as well remove any game that uses the same real world guns as them at this rate
You still think anyone will take your opinion seriously with this?
Don't you know you have to pay for using weapons like the AK-47?
They have to pay to Activision one way or another.
>>343077243
You have to pay the people who own the rights to those guns, not Activision.
>>343077178
Yea wouldn't surprise me if most of those were stolen. I know they have a metroid helmet somewhere in there.
Also that's only helmets. The hats list is even bigger, and probably has a ton of stolen shit in it as well.
>>343077385
But these are "original" (Activision devs might have taken some inspiration from other designs, but that is not plagiarism, it isn't that original) designs from the devs of those CoDs
They can't win, they know well they won't.
>>343077729
Those guns aren't the exact same though. The stolen helmets I understand, but the guns have distinct differences to them. The only similarities in the OP being the top piece, the actual body is different.
They stole things, but not from Activision.
>>343077895
THE GUN PICTURE IN THIS THREAD CLEARLY TAKES GUN PARTS FROM IT AND MASHES THEM TOGETHER
SO DOES THIS IMAGE: https://i.sli.mg/xpIy1W.png
DAVID JAMES PLS GO
>>343077729
>>343077972
we are talking about you have to pay the real owners of the models when u use real guns like AK-47
not Shittivision
>>343077895
>only the top piece
Relook at OPs pic again. Several parts of the gun are copied and in the same position.
>>343077972
Anon, let me fucking explain something to you.
When you have copyright on a piece of art - like a model - you don't own everything that was ever or could ever be inspired by that art. You don't even own things that are your art but slightly different.
All you own is the exact thing that you made. If those models are not 1:1 copies, or substantially similar (i.e. 1:1 copies with different lettering) then the copyright holder has no claim.
Copyrighting H2O doesn't give you a copyright on H3O or 2HO.
>>343077972
There are differences in the model at the bottom and its design isn't even a 1:1 with a single gun, if you're going to take a handful of guns and say this one gun took stuff from all those other guns then I guarantee any company could sue one another with that amount of cherrypicking.
>>343078357
>>343078561
The model is identical. The lines are identical. They chopped up the models and put them back together and then slightly modified the texture.
If it had taken inspiration from, but was clearly it's own thing, that would be fine. That is what you are talking about.
>>343078085
Aren't these guns all futuristic and shit? Activision devs might have taken inspiration from real guns but it's still their work. These, on the other hand, are Frankenstein's guns.
>>343078561
>cherrypicking
Rearranging someone else's models doesn't mean you don't need their permission.
>>343078085
Not the same anon >>343077972
I'am this fag >>343077729
I don't know if my facts are right, but, isn't a slightly edited model still copyright infringement?
>>343078561
Are you fucking blind?
I think you aren't, but it might be that you get confused by the textures, we're talking about the model. You can clearly see that the textures are different.
>>343074042
Didn't the dev come out and say he was going to beat out Star Citizen or some stupid shit like that?
>>343074247
So a new update.
They made an indiegogo, and set the goal to only $500.
The first donation they received? $500from their own company.
Why's that important? Because once the goal is met, any future contributions are automatically charged. So now anyone that donates can't get a refund unless they force a chargeback.
classy
>>343079578
>So now anyone that donates can't get a refund unless they force a chargeback.
I have this weird feeling, a feel that I don't get often, no, I don't even know when was the last time.I want to kill these guys
>>343079578
I don't say this often but...I hope Activision sues them to oblivion.
>>343080013
They've done the impossible, made me sympathetic to Activision simply by 'out-scumming' them.
JEW FIGHT
JEW FIGHT
>>343079578
>>343079884
Man, that is blatant.
>make game with ak47
>NO OTHER GAME ALLOWED TO HAVE AN AK47
usual activision shit i guess
>>343074042
>Generic future gun shit is generic
What's the big deal? Are people going to start holding copy rights on generic ARs too?
>>343079884
>Brings things that have nothing to do with this
>mfw they'll bring the victim card in court
>>343080219
its literally stolen assets
>>343080406
They won't go to court. In fact, I'd bet they'll do everything they can to not to go to court because they know how fucked they are by stealing so much shit.
David is the adult-version of that kid who's always talking shit and never backs it up.
>>343074042
The Orion devs are huge faggots and this is like the 20th time this kind of thing has happened.
Prelude ended up being fun in survival for a few hours with friends though.
>>343080219
Nice strawmanman you have there, buddy.
>>343080219
>>343080347
Check the previous posts. This isn't a case of something being a knockoff, this is a case of it being literally copied wholesale and rearranged. The model parts of the guns are identical. That's the issue. And as it stands, Activision aren't entirely groundless. It's as if someone copied the AK47 model from CoD - the problem isn't that nobody can have an AK47, it's that nobody can have THEIR AK47.
>>343080618
This
One of their achievement thumbnail images is literally just cropped Turok boxart.
>>343080595
This. Don't know how much profit they've made with the game but it's a penny against Activision. Going to court will be a death sentence.
>>343080595
How is that thing called? That agreement both sides do without intervention of the law?
Well they can make that, paying Activision a generous sum, but this very unlikely given that they act like the victim here.
>>343079414
>Activision invented the number 4
>>343081053
The Activision lawyers are going to have a field day.
>>343081127
>implying the dev of this bargain-basement dogshit will be able to successfully arbitrate a compromise with Big Bad Bobby
>implying they aren't going to be sued into the stone age
>>343081127
Settlement.
>>343081224
are you retarded?
>>343081441
>anyone who is not as autistic as me is retarded
mini tortanic right here.
>>343081403
Well, no one knows. They could be very persuasive, right?
>>343081435
Thanks, anon, It was that simply, kek.
>>343081441
He's baiting you know. Frogposting is a dead giveaway.
>>343081793
Their arms are too short to box with God.
>>343081554
>I'm retarded and I don't know how stealing assets works
>>343081725
>DELETE THIS
kek
>>343081346
Well, those stock photos are free to use, but the Turok one is another story.
>>343081915
Actishill admits he's autistic and retarded.
Good job.
>>343074415
>activision "losing" out on a few sales of a few dollars
>END IT NOW
>shuts the down and takes back their coins
Is there a more jew company? Pretty sure the CEO has a big nose
>>343082115
Not him, but I don't even see a 'number 4' anywhere there.
>>343082106
Not sure of each websites copywrite protections but it's likely that they can't just take those photos.
The fact that they're enhanced on a detail, have a different hue or the one that's turned to the side seems to indicate that the guy was trying to make sure no one recognized the original so I doubt they bought the rights to use them.
>>343082275
From what I understand of how these things work, they don't give a shit about the profit they lost, they're sending the message that they will protect their assets so that others don't think they can do the same stuff and get off free. Doing this is a hell of a lot cheaper and faster than taking someone to court.
>>343081725
>"DELETE THIS!"
>"haha just kidding my reddit account got hacked ;)"
>>343082890
>they're sending the message that they will protect their assets so that others don't think they can do the same stuff and get off free
COPYRIGHT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY
GOOD NIGHT
It's nice to see these assholes get slammed again. I remember the whole Orion Dino Beatdown thing.
I bought it like six months in advanced before anything surfaced about them being an ultra shitty company and ended up playing a match with David. He's a real cunt, he asked in-game if there were any bugs and told anyone who mentioned a bug to fuck off and it's their own computer not his game.
>>343081725
Literally DELETE THIS
The tears. Oh god
>>343082434
See pic again, green arrows are pointing to those depth things, and then the pic below has them, demostraiting that the weapon from ORION is, in fact, the same model from BO3.
>>343083187
>>343081725
jesus christ
>>343083187
Went to investigate if it is real, now seeing his profile in leddit. Jesus this guy is fucking retarded.
>DPrassel -10 points 35 minutes ago
>HAHAHA THIS ACCOUNT WAS HACKED BY ANONYMOUS!!
>>343083187
Stop it. This is too much for my sides.
Damn, I even had appreciation for his company. The way they listened to criticism and feedback and remade the game many times until it was good enough was great. Not many companies are willing to put that work into a 1 dollar product. Most people instead of finishing the game, would just start a new one.
I cant believe this is the same guy.
>>343081725
>>343083187
>getting this upset
>>343083290
Oh, the indentations, I see it now.
>>343083187
Dr Rassel, Im D.M.C.A.
I don't want nor did I ever want these fucking "Orion" dinosaur ripoff games in my Steam account. I got both of them gifted to me by 2 of my friends and one of them thank fuck I never even installed, and the other I installed and played 25 minutes before uninstalled and never playing again.
I know Steam can remove games permanently from my account, but has anyone had any luck asking support to delete all playtime and achievement progress? I don't want any mark on my Steam account that I ever owned or played this indie garbage rip off games.
>>343083594
>Not many companies are willing to put that work into a 1 dollar product.
What work? kek
>>343083187
>>343081725
>Even Reddit wasn't caught by the cuck
Prassel is fucked.
>>343083731
Ten years from now, it'll be like having P.T. on your PS4
>>343083731
>Being this autistic
Steam is not Facebook retard, who cares.
>>343074042
isn't orion: prelude the source game that stole loads of assets from stuff like natural selection 2, halo, and other shit?
Dev now having a total meltdown on the steam discussion forum.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/407840/discussions/0/351660338705362195/
>>343083928
This is the sequel.
>>343083928
Close, but it was called "Orion: Dino Horde"
this guy's entire development history has been exactly one idea, and every time he has tried to realise this idea, it has resulted in him stealing assets and releasing a shitty product
http://www.gatheryourparty.com/2012/05/04/orion-employee-beatdown/
>>343083734
A lot. The game was barely functional. It now even has 4 player split co-op. It had a shit ton of features added.
Dare I say its a great game for 1 dollar.
But the guy seems to be a fucking retard.
>>343083959
What original helmets, I really like that ninja one :^)
>>343083840
Yeah no. It's indie garbage. It'll never be good, unlike P.T. which is. I want all traces of it removed from my account permanently.
>>343083959
lmao this is fucking ridiculous
>I am about done with this industry. If you want a developer that listens to you, interacts with you and supports you. You know where we are and now is only the time to show your support on our Indiegogo:
...what?
>>343084073
>#HelpOrion
>You guys are the best devs i have ever seen, don't let some jerks destroy your passion.
This isn't funny anymore.
>>343082747
>dead orbit logo on the gun
>>343084073
>go to indiego campaign
>first donation is 500 dollars from himself
>>343084298
That's some dude's paint job, not originally on the gun.
>>343084073
>there are people on steam defending shit like this
I fucking hate steam discussions, every time there's some faggot sucking up to the dev.
>>343079884
He forgot to mention the supply drop microtransactions
>>343084274
If you can't handle the heat.
Maybe it's time.
>>343083187
HE DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER MAKING A SOCKPUPPET TO SHILL HIS GAME
HOW STUPID CAN YOU GET
>>343079578
Smart. They should have donated the money using some "friend's" name, tho. They could have at least saved face.
>>343084489
I only ever go to the steam forums for tech support
reading that thread was disgusting
>>343084505
But I want to see them burn.
They'll burn, right? r-right?
>>343079578
>any future contributions are automatically charged. So now anyone that donates can't get a refund unless they force a chargeback
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!
The donater is charged on top of their donation?
Who does a chargeback?
>>343074042
>"Buying" digital games
Not even once
>>343084563
This is getting out of his hand.
It's Gawker all over again.
>>343084489
I'm sure so idiots actually defend the guy but I wouldn't doubt if he just has multiple accounts for the sake of seeming like a victim.
>>343084563
Apparently to the point where he forgets to change accounts.
>>343084775
They are gonna burn all right.
>>343079884
WOW
>>343084073
>I know that he's stealing assets, but I don't ing care, I want my game back, I like most of these games he stole assets from in fact, but as I said, I don't ing care, when I think it's a fun game, I think it's a fun game wich I would like to play again, and not have this kind of crap
I've never seen such a hardcore defense force for such an irrelevant game.
Oh David...
And here I thought you were doing so good. Guardians of Orion/Orion Project/Orion: Prelude 2/Orion/Whatever you felt like changing your game name to this month, looked to be getting good.
>>343075227
holy shit those models arent the same at all. i dont understand why ANYONE would defend ACTIVISION over a small indie dev under any circumstances. the game is being sold for less than a dollar let the guy make a living for fucks sake
Wait is this Orion Dino Beatdown?
>>343085493
David pls
Also that's the least piece of criminating evidence in a sea of like, 40+ things.
>>343085567
Yes. They changed the name.
>>343085493
No quarter here either, David. Move along.
>>343085567
No it's another game based on the same IP.
It started out as a top down shooter, then moved to 3rd person and then 1st person and shit.
He just can't make up his mind.
>>343074042
Holy shit how did this not happen sooner?
I remember buying that game for me and some friends to fuck around with like 2 years ago and laughing about how it's straight up ripped off stuff from Borderlands, Gears of War, Halo CE etc.
>>343085493
>i dont understand why ANYONE would defend ACTIVISION over a small indie dev under any circumstances
David pls go
this is a game where you can wear Boba Fett's helmet, and the copywrite issue was a gun.
Alright
>>343076937
The main problem is that the weapon from AW is an "original" weapon.
It's not based on anything, other than maybe vaguely representing a real life AR.
Activision has a case. Orion devs don't.
>>343085781
Disney doesn't quite get vidya just yet. I mean, they sold their rights to EA of all things.
>>343085781
because the devs can say the boba fett helmet is a homage/parody/whatever while the gun is made of literally made of stolen assets
>>343076473
That isn't too bad. The game is only 49 cents, Disney doesn't give a shit.
Activision is ultra jew though so they gotta make sure that they get their 49 cents back
>>343086005
Or maybe they get vidya all too well
>>343086063
>Disney doesn't give a shit [about copyright/trademark infringement]
You clearly don't know Disney.
>>343086129
I think they just understand money.
>>343084136
He's not, he's too obsessed with his reputation to actually admit the things he did. The funny thing is that what he is doing tarnishes his rep even more.
>>343079065
yeah that was pretty funny. What's funnier was them having a 'foundry' pack and then immediately introducing a higher tier called 'elite' or some shit that was gonna sell for something ridiculous.
>>343086063
>Disney doesn't give a shit.
kek
Also it's a cash shop item. If it was just a regular thing everyone could get, that would make sense. But they're making money off it without Disney's consent so there's nothing questionable about it.
>>343086063
And Disney isn't? Copyright laws are practically formed around the mouse. If they haven't taken action it's because they have a million other people in line for their attack.
>>343078085
Most of the guns featured in Black Ops 3 and Advanced Warfare are completely fictional future weapons, and don't need to be licensed by Activision because they are original, ergo Activision owns the models.
So who wants to bet that no one actually told him to take down the game. He just took it down himself when word started getting around. All these DELETE THIS threats are him trying to remove the evidence from the internet.
But the jew was strong so now he's trying to get sympathy bucks.
playing this right now, cause fuck activision. n the games pretty neat too
games great be sure to donate to the cause people #helpORION fuck activision
>>343087097
You sure showed them, David.
>>343086747
I bet 100 (You)
Maybe it's a marketing move.
>>343087097
>I play games just to make a political message
gb2 tumblr
>>343087097
>>343087382
fuck off david
>>343087097
I bet you didn't even read the thread and just glanced at the OP and thought "Oh shit Activision did something? Better shit on them like I'm assuming /v/'s doing right now!"
read this review
http://steamcommunity.com/id/vizitronman/recommended/104900/
Post your face when you didn't buy ORION
>>343087460
/v/ hates everything but it also hates everything equally, unlike reddit or neogaf who will pick the side that aligns with them and defend it till death
>>343074149
Me because I played it and companies doing the evil that they do interests me.
This is why I avoid the steam forums
>>343087696
>hating Activision
>hating the ones who contain all the normies and make it less awkward when you bring up your hobby
>hating the ones who warned us of Tim Schafer
>>343088059
>Hating on based Tim
>>343087572
>shilling your own review
This is a new low even for /v/'s standards.
>>343075802
Nah, LotL was special. Also fully made and SP. This is half finished MP only, not nearly as much content to riff on.
>>343087696
>/v/ hates everything
/v/ isn't a single person, faggot.
Lurk more, it was a meme back then.
>>343074042
the guns ARE pretty similar but they're definitely not the same thing.
I feel like they don't really have a case, to be honest, but he probably shouldn't have cut out that part of the gun and just stuck it on his. It's definitely the most borderline copyright infringement thing I've ever seen.
>>343088131
>Tim "a game so nice you'll pay for it twice" Schafer
>based
>>343087097
DON'T DELETE THIS OR I'LL SUE
>>343088170
I never even played the game, retard.
I was going to buy the game and i saw that, i didn't really cared that they stole assets. That review actually stopped me from buying the game.
>>343087806
They very clearly copied assets from activation and had it coming
>>343088131
>defending Tim "Double Fine means you pay twice" Schafer
>>343088285
>Tim "Another Million or I start Killin'" Schafer
>>343088405
I know, I was referring to orino's evil.
>>343088350
>pulling up a random review
>that summarizes everything we already knew
>telling us to read it like it's of any importance
If it isn't your review and you're not just trying to look special, then you're just retarded thinking it has any significance.
>>343088470
>Tim "Double Fine means you pay twice" Schafer
BASED
A
S
E
D
>>343088753
>ANON YOU'RE RETARDED BECAUSE YOU MISSED ONE POST THE WHOLE THREAD, KYS
>>343088178
>triggered autist
it was a joke, don't get so butt blasted about it
>claimed you were hacked
>immediately called out
starting to feel bad for him
>>343089346
Ahahaha, what a sad sack of shit.
>>343089346
How can someone capable of programming working netplay be this stupid?
>>343089346
>trying to pull the hacked card against non-normies
what the fuck is he thinking
>>343089346
this guy might be legit retard
>>343089346
Oooooh David.
The fuck are you doing, man?
>>343089346
>local address
>same provider
what a silly goose
>>343089346
Hahahahaha!
>>343089346
>Literally "OH MY GOD SOMEONE PUT SHIT IN MY PANTS"
>>343089346
I feel bad too
But he hurt people
He's suffering the consequences of his actions
>>343081725
link to thread pls.
>>343089346
HAHAHAAHAHAHHHAH
David james WHAT A FKING MORON
KEKS
>>343089346
>192.168
Guy's fucking lost.
>>343089696
He's probably under a lot of pressure right now.
>>343089346
Wow. Actually speechless.
>>343089346
David right now
>>343089997
HE'S JUST MAKING IT WORSE
I'll never understand how game "devs" fuck up PR this badly. Holy shit. Literally stepping away from twitter or reddit and putting your god damn phone down would do you better. Never let anyone try to tell you we don't need publishers anymore, cause this is what happens when you let crowdfunding happen.
>>343089346
10/10
Funniest shit I've seen all week.
>>343077895
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitbashing
>>343090274
Re-selling kit bashed items as your own is super illegal. Which is what David did.
>activision literally BTFOs and takes down some shitty indie game from steam
>g2a steals $500k worth of keys from some shitty indie developer and they whine about it
this week has been great, fuck all these shitty games.
>>343089665
Game uses UE4.
I've never touched UE4, but in Unity and other easy bake engines, it's pretty idiot proof to get networking set up.
>>343081725
>literaly DELETE THIS
My fucking sides.
>>343081346
huh didnt know the artist of the smiley face thing,
they do anything else nice for wallpapers etc?
This gotta be worth hundreds now.
Well, if keysites didn't exist and game wasn't a 99c piece of shit.
Dr Prassel, I'm D.M.C.A.
>>343088274
Dude what
You are getting tricked. Even you clearly agree that he cut up pieces of someone else property and combined it to make something new. He just never got permission to do so. How do they not have a case? This isn't even up for debate you can just look at the images and it's pretty obvious. I'm surprised the dev had the balls to post that victim post like he did nothing wrong.
This is a slam dunk case trust me both my dads are lawyers.
>>343089346
Lel
>>343090656
Wrong game.
The one that got take down was Orion (formerly The Orion Project (formerly Guardians of Orion))
>>343090656
>And here we have a mint condition download of Orion.
>Legends say that this game was stitched together like some horrific Frankenstein monster
>It goes on that the result drove its creator mad. He ran from his home, suing everyone he could find.
>The bidding will start at 15 cents.
>>343090712
I feel like a lot of people are missing the key point here:
The gun(s) in AW are not based on any weapon(s), they're original creation.
Activison has the case in the bag so tightly it's not even funny.
Ugh. Another indie company being picked on by a big corporation, and ofcourse /V/ sides with Activision like the cucks they are
>>343086021
You can't just make something exactly alike a thing from something else, have it in your game and then call it a homage when they come after you.
>>343090712
>Both my dads are lawyers
So what, did they roleplay the courtroom in the bedroom or something?
Who is the judge? You?
>>343090712
Well played
This fucking isnt pleb China. Create your own shit and dont steal. Now their company might as well be bankrupt, because no one serious will partner with a sued babby company.
Lazy, uncreative game devs BTFO
>>343074042
>a company actually used the DMCA for a legitimate reason
Holy shit did hell freeze over?
>>343090505
>>g2a steals $500k worth of keys from some shitty indie developer and they whine about it
wat
>>343090997
Pretty bad bait but I'll give you (you) so you can feel better
>>343091062
iirc someone bought 500k worth of keys from the dev site store with stolen credit cards, charged back and then sold the keys on g2a for something like 350k
>>343091062
http://tinybuild.com/g2a-sold-450k-worth-of-our-game-keys
>>343079884
>We could not sell our game for 50 cents
>Great idea, everyone give us money for free, we start some kickstarter-like bullshit.
>Hurrr we are teh gud guys
No you fucking idiot. Next time don't copy assets 1:1.
>>343091062
Just Googled it, and I can already tell that anon is making shit up. G2A didn't do anything, it's just a case of people charging back on payments of their games, but the keys are still valid. People then sell/trade the keys away and they wind up on G2A.
>>343091050
>Implying companies don't use it properly all the time and that the YouTubers are in the right
>>343091202
fuck this is gold
More stolen assets after the issue with the ones from turok for achievements at the launch of dino:beatdown?
>>343091202
Sounds like a felonious lawsuit. When hunnid stacks are involved, charge backs wont save you.
Imagine the fucking rampant scamming that would happen if people could magically front a few hundred thousand because of a loophole
oh gods my sides this debacle has in fact made my entire day,
thanks David. never stop the damage control
>>343091369
the thing is, g2a said they aren't going to do shit unless the devs partner with them to sell keys directly from g2a
>>343091432
they stole assets before, I think it was from natural selection 2
>>343091387
Big companies like Activishit don't DMCA youtubers, most of it comes from shitty indies who get mad when people don't like their shitty games.
>>343091369
so their whole chimpout was false?
>>343091537
And from primal that shit dinosaur game as well
>>343089346
>faggot_hacks_himself.jpg
>>343074042
So it begins.
Now watch shitivision sue anyone who ever put an M-series rifle in their vidya because
>muh stolen assets! See court case legal precedent #76545354
And them shitivision will be the only publisher allowed to make shooters. Because of copyright infringement etc.
>>343090941
>I'll trade ya some Dota2 invites!
>SOLD!
>>343091369
But the keys weren't ever given to G2A to sell, they were bought from the dev's site with a stolen credit card, then sold on G2A. The chargebacks came from whoever's credit card was stolen when they realised what happened.
>>343089346
>E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy
>>343089665
>working netplay
You obviously didn't play orion:dino beatdown when it first came out for $15, we had to setup fucking hamachi to actually play with each other.
>>343074042
ARR GAN ROOK RIKE
>>343091857
Are you dense? Real guns have licenses and copyrights that belong to the fun manufacturer. These are fake future guns that are obviously rip offs of the fake future guns from Blops 3
>>343074042
>good
Is the game good?
>>343092026
>paying for someone else to make fun for you
wow, really ?
>>343091537
Well what do they expect them to do? Pay them back for every copy they sold? And how are they going to prove which ones were purchased with stolen credit cards? And why is this only going to be limited to that dev only? The time and resources spent trying to fix what Valve should be on top of (like not letting the keys stay valid by default and forcing the devs not to kill the key the on their own because it makes them look like dicks, also the time it takes to realize the chargeback to kill theh key is too long) is not reasonable.
can someone tell me how come he couldn't be hacked in that reddit pick? one IP starts with 76 and the other starts from 192. they are obviously different. why isn't that a hack?
>>343092026
Don't reply.
I'm sure it's the same anon that posted all the baits of this thread.
>>343092303
192 is a local IP. Like a router IP. Also Russia doesn't have Verizon Wireless.
>>343092303
nice try, anon. That guy isn't this retarded, tho.
>>343092303
I wish basic computer knowledge is a requirement to even browse the internet these days.
>>343074042
Has this been posted? The faggot of Prassel is trying to use his internet lawyers to stop people from revealing how many models he black people'd from activision
>>343090656
different game
there was a shittier one just called Orion
>>343092303
192.168.x.x is reserved for local ip ranges. Things like your router and home network.
>>343083959
Is that second one the nanosuit or something?
>>343092592
If you read the thread you would have seen multiple pics of him having a mental breakdown, including that one.
>>343083959
>have to think about it for a second
>realize that the genji one is an activision asset too
Holy shit they're going to get destroyed in court.
>>343092592
Problem for him is, internet lawyers don't exist.
>>343092459
>>343092632
oh so it's on his end entirely. like local home access. thanks for the answer mans, i appreciate it.
The reddit thread is pretty telling of both sides of the issue.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/4q6xo5/activisions_dmca_claim_on_orion_is_legit_orions/
I thought Orion was guilty prior to either thread, but stuff like hacking into your own reddit account, and trying to prove it by posting a screencap of yourself using a Russian vpn on your home network? That's fucking comedy gold. This Dave guy is either hopelessly deluded or an extremely determined scam artist.
He doesn't know when to stop.
>>343093059
Likely doesn't know what he's doing. This is why PR exists.
>>343092726
Kylo Ren's helmet.
>>343092975
Yup. Now he could have claimed that his home pc was hacked or remotely accessed, but he didn't. His reddit account was specifically 'hacked' so it had to be of his own doing.
>>343093130
Can't make this shit up
>>343093130
execute the biggest hack in history
>>343093376
well then why is he doing this? surely he knows that people can see through his lie.
>>343083072
ACTUALLY THAT'S EXACTLY HOW INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY WORKS
IF YOU DON'T DEFEND IT YOU LOSE IT
>>343093130
PUT DOWN THE SHOVEL DAVID
please. its painful to watch someone destroy themselves better than anything anyone else can do to them
>>343093130
He knows!
He backtraced it!
>>343093586
Nope, he didn't, and doesn't know. He thinks ALL people are retarded and will buy his horrible game.
>>343093130
Jesus. Youd think after his post that says "HAHAH THIS ACCOUNT IS HACKED BY ANONYMOUS" He would stop. But he just keeps digging the hole.
>>343093681
My god. This goes all the way to the president.
>>343093713
Maybe he has two side, anon. The nicest person you'll ever meet and
Every time david prassel gets called out he doubles down, with activision involved this time we're going to be entertained for awhile.
>>343083959
>He put his name on the fett helmet
Oh dear
>>343093942
>He's Schizophrenic
>>343093130
Holy shit. I haven't seen PR that bad since DA2 and TORtanic.
>>343075926
>around 27% of people on this board use reddit
>>343074536
Sounds like a awful person to have as a friend. I wouldn't respect them
>>343094228
Explains the recent liberal influx honestly.
>>343085493
back to the cave, dave
This thread is fucking hilarious.
>>343076473
>Generic barbute helmet trying to be futuristic is OCdonsteal
I h-h-hope Disney crushes this heathen russkie
Let's see if I can sum this up:
> actiblizz files DMCA takedown of shitty game
> devs play the victim card, claim there are no lifted assets
> users quickly find the lifted assets
> CEO goes full damage control mode
> creates and indiegogo campaign
> proceeds to personally donate to it, thus completing the campaign and ensuring subsequent donations receive no refunds
> posts awareness threads all over reddit but forgets to use his alt account
> users call him out on it
> threatens to sue users
> deletes most of his posts
> claim "anonymous" hacked him
> posts picture of "proof" of a russian hacker (actually a local IP)
> accuses reddit mods of being the hackers
> cries on steam about big meanie actiblizz abusing innocent indie devs
> dozens of other examples of lifted assets from other game devs made are being posted all over reddit
How can he possibly dig himself out of this hole?
>>343086063
>Disney doesn't give a shit
If Disney knew about this they would have a field day, their lawyers are relentless
>>343076473
why the fuck that helmet is named after a pasta
>>343094228
I use reddit but never post and only check out 2 subredditsspaceporn and gakinotsukai
>>343094763
> other game devs made
meant:
> other game Orion made
>>343074529
I'll just point out that kys is associated with a strange youtuber who even sounds as if puberty skipped him
>>343094763
only hope is committing sudoku at this point famalam
>>343094763
I would change my name, face an disappear.
>>343086063
Hello David. Don't you have some damage control to do on leddit?
>>343074042
I remember when David posted about his "halo with dinos" game on hl2world every month. stupid moron.
>>343094934
Same game if I'm not mistaken.
Dino Beatdown was rebranded as Dino Horde which was rebranded to Prelude
>>343095040
LEAVE DAVID ALONE
http://mediastorage.bauermedia.co.uk/01/1ed3a/df020/5a331/85767/995c5/fe3ff/leavebritney_778x436.PNG?1462528119
>>343074536
call him out at every opperunity
>>343094610
You have to go back.
>>343084073
He isn't wrong (if he isn't lying).
Not telling him what models he needs to remove, and then taking the game down for not removing it, is pretty fucking stupid.
But he is probably lying, so whatever.
>>343095226
> posting a link to an image
Leddit newfriend spotted.
>>343094228
I use reddit for news, but prefer 4chan for mindless discussion. It's way too comedic/pitiful to read the average reddit comments. So many people desperately trying to be funny for complete strangers.
>>343095226
I'll leave him alone when I can get my $15 back and he hangs himself.
>>343095226
>link to an image
Fucking reddit.
It's time to go back, you've overstayed your welcome.
>>343095226
david pls fk off
>>343095321
>what's 4chan x
How to spot the new fag
>>343093942
Twisted fucking psychopath
>Activision thinks they're the only faggots in the universe to ever have a pseudo carry handle flat top upper railed gun
fucking WEW
>>343095491
4chanx is for embedding youtube videos and sound webms you mongoloid, it's not for images under the filesize limit.
>>343095226
> link to an image
Did you forget you aren't on reddit anymore, David?
>>343084073
Can someone make a giant tl;dr image so it can be posted in this steam discussion so the dev can just get BTFO and nobody has to be tricked anymore?
>>343095650
He'll just delete it like he always does.
>>343084073
>dude posts link to albums of a ton of stolen assets
>no one acknowledges it
This is both hilarious and pathetic
>>343095650
the dev is deleting any negative posts in the steam discussions on any of the games his company has on steam.
>>343094763
Just Activision technically, Blizzard has nothing to do with the cod franchise.
>>343095595
Look at the full comparison you mong >>343074825
>>343095765
no no no, he'll get a russian hacker living next door to him to hack you, then hack himself.
>>343095825
Dumbass
>>343079578
That's advanced jewery
>>343079578
Isn't this against indiegogo tos?
>>343094228
>implying
It's at least 50%
>>343095945
My image is embed on my end, dumbass.
I just didn't want to download this stupid image, stop being so retarded.
>>343085701
>>343085662
>>343085754
>>343093770
>>343094310
all these replies and they are all pointless and exactly the same. what the fuck is wrong with you people, since when did memes become a substitute for an actual argument. ive never even heard of orion or david before this thread. But this guy went beyond just using an RPG maker bullshit title and charged less.
>>343096264
Go back to bed David
>>343095825
Literally no one posts links to images on 4chan. It's basically equivalent to failing the triforce.
Face it, you've been exposed and now you're trying to cover your tracks.
>>343096121
>save image
>save image as image.x or untitled.x
>next time you save stupid image you don't want the previous one gets erased
My god you are so fucking new to this.
>>343096264
>it's a cheap game so asset theft should be excused
They have a history of stealing assets, this time they fucked with someone who can crush them and they deserve it.
j-just kidding guys, my account was hacked by 4chan
>>343096264
>Implying all those anons wanted to argue
Just kill yourself already, David.
>>343096337
great when did the summerfags learn how to tripfag?
>>343079578
GoddamnThreads like this jut prove that /v/ loves nothing more than seeing other people fail, eve if they don't have the remotest investment in either party.I love it
>>343074536
Kanye West?
>>343096385
There's always a first time for everything. Jesus, why are people sperging over something so stupid.
>>343096389
You really think you're actually teaching something, huh?
You people are so easily triggered, holy shit.
>>343096426
>Pulling out the "It wasn't me, I was hacked!" card
Just how fucking low can you go
>>343075869
>SWG
Muh Nigga
>>343096507
if they didnt want to actually communicate they shouldnt be on a forum
Activision doesn't have to do anything. This guy is going to throw himself off a bridge and say ANONYMOUS MADE ME DO IT
>>343096807
>expecting logical and rational discourse instead of rampant shitposting
See >>343096557
You're the one that made the mistake here, son.
>>343096664
>rape jokes
Wow, this is really toxic humor, my gods
>>343096974
>my gods
BURN HIM!!!
>>343076937
It's almost as though you worked on this game or someting
>>343095334
>"I use Reddit for news"
>>343095334
I use /pol/ for news. I'm very well adjusted.
>>343096974
>rape
she's clearly into it
>>343084818
It means that any money is automatically put down, rather than held in limbo for the duration of the fundraiser. If it failed, then those people would get their money back. Since it's already fulfilled, they will not unless they force a chargeback. Even then, indiegogo will likely pay for the chargebacks and then subsequently charge Trek. If trek chooses not to pay, then indiegogo will have to repay all the money while David goes to some country with loose laws (if he's not already there).
He's a scam artist, no doubt about it.
>>343094763
At this point? Nothing.
Any person with integrity or a brain cell would've contacted Acitvision, apologized, removed the assets, apologized to the fans, then ask Activision to contact Steam to put the game back up. This would've saved him. It would've hurt his business because he dun fucked up, but he'd still be in business.
>>343095334
The layout is so fucking disgusting, how do you manage to use that shit?
>>343094842
Boba Fettuccini
>>343095650
I'm making a shitty infograph now
>>343097263
I doubt activision would let it go. They have to set an example here. They will probably take his game and make it better.
>>343097372We will pay you with (You)s
>>343096974
nigga you blind?
there is no rape even insinuated here, just one pixel lady begging for another pixel lady to touch her funbox.
Jesus fucking christ what a god damn retard.
How can you even fail so fucking hard?
>>343079578
>>343079884
Fucking hell.
These screenshots clearly show they DID reuse the assets, making Activision's claim justified, however shitty the company is.
>>343079414
>>343074042
And now they're begging for money and pull shady shit? Fuck those devs. Hope they go bankrupt.
>>343096974
Tumblr is that way
>>343097067
You think I'm going to get my video game news from /v/? That's like trying to get useful information from a prepubescent boy.
If i did this, would you guys support me? we are bros, right?
Orion prelude is that game that changes names like 3 times isn't it? The one that went on sale for a dollar and everyone bought? That game was literally the worst game I ever played. These guys are cunts and should burn.
>>343077243
>AK-47
For the last fucking time - it's called the AK
>>343074529
Fucking hang yourself.
>>343096557
>he doesn't own 300 shares of activision
I buy the new call of duty each year with my dividends.
>>343074042
Why don't Battleship movie right owners sue them?
>>343097313
By not using it 24/7 really. Also it helps that I use dark themes wherever I can. I don't understand how most people can stare at those white pages for hours.
I've been using spidr.today more often, and while they don't do video game news, they do have current events and global politics. If I find something better for video games, then I'm good to leave leddit behind.
>>343098398
>He's not a majority shareholder
>>343098486
This shit is in BO3.
>>343096895
He's the Zoe Quinn of game developers. (see what I did?)
>>343098594
And Overwatch
And WoW
>>343098576
If you're on the board can you fire metzen?
Everything he writes is complete trash like d3
>>343098323
HOLY
There's only one Avtomat Kalashnikova model!
Thanks anon, I didn't know that.
>>343079884
Is this the guy who called Star citizen lead dev a scam artists (Not the exact words, but similar message)?
This is hilarious if so...
>>343096719
Yeah, first time for posting an image on /v/ you reddit fucking shit LMAO
>>343098854
No, that's another retard.
>>343081725
So he says he was hacked and here's "proof".
So Russia, and the IP is 192.168.etc... Isn't that usually local IPs? Something seems odd there. He probably shooped it. Or hired someone to shoop it and then fired them after it was done.
>>343098486
>>343098594
Because they didn't rip the cgi model out of the movie, they made their own.
>>343098958
Okay, you got me. I'm newfag from walkingchan. I'm sorry for trying to be part of this beautiful, family.
>>343096557I secretly wish /v/ had more drama like this
>>343095226
EPIC MEME REDDITOR XDD
>>343099059
>screenshot of page 1 minute after login
>local ip from russia
>verizon wireless in russia
kek holy shit.
>>343095650
Here. It's shit.
>>343099059
he logged in to a proxy which happened to be russian and is too retarded to recognize that a local ip/same provider would be a dead giveaway it was him
>>343099172
Kill yourself you ESL reddit fuckk wwwwwwww
>>343099241
You and me both brother
Focused shitposting is infinitely better than intra-shitposting
>>343089346
its like that turkis poster posing as a swedish girl forgetting about the flags
>>343099172
You didn't try though.
>>343099059
>Location: Russia
>Verizon
>>343093130
ded game
ded dev
>>343098323
t. first game was cod
The ak series has dozens of models, 47, 74, 74U, M, 12 and the Saiga 12k even uses the same receiver.
>>343099059
>Or hired someone to shoop it and then fired them after it was done.
>>343099276
Not bad anon. I think you pretty much covered it all.
All that is left to do is to wait to see if David will dig himself ever deeper.
well this was potentially the best "dev" outburst in a while
>>343074042
dont you have to remake assets? so basically they spent time remodeling an exact copy of a sight rail? they probably deserved it.
>>343089346
Pic related, he did not even bother to photoshop it.
>>343090941
>>343091863
>>343091954
This is the funnest thread I have been in, in a while.
>>343099452
>>343099347
I'm truly sorry, forgive me.
Also, english isn't my second language.
Don't big games like COD use a lot of assets created by Chinks?
>>343098854
Nah that's Derek Smart. He's mad as fuck because Star Citizen overshadowed the remake of his questionable space sim.
>>343099276
Nah, it's good.
Here's your payment of (You)s.
>>343099821
Chinks aren't people
>>343092592
This is some Chris Chan tier autism going on.
>uh don't critcize my game or um.. there will be consequences, and I will stop working on the game
>I got lawyers and I can sue you trolls (You know who you are)
>>343081725
>>343099059
Holy shit look at him here blowing up this guy.
https://www.reddit.com/r/quityourbullshit/comments/4maj45/exposing_a_conartist_dev_company/
>>343093130
I got to give credit to all those threads with the OP asking "what is stopping us from creating a game"
If this idiot can do it, this should be cake.
>>343100026
Saving the hell out of this for future use
>>343079884
>ass-wiping turds
now there's a novel idea
>>343099796
where are my (you's), tho?
>>343093889
Even higher. Possibly beyond our own planet.
>>343094763
I wrote a poem in his honor
>He digs
>They dig
>We dig
its short, but its pretty deep
>>343089346
>log in with a VPN
>clearly shows you were using Verizon Wireless
What a retard.
>>343100226
Stalkers are some real shitty people.
>>343099059
Hard to believe its 2016 and most people still don't how easy it is to edit web pages.
>>343100549
That sounds like it comes from a personal place.
>>343100485
>but its pretty deep
>>343076718
their fault for having weapon mods that straight up increased the gun damage for no reason
>>343095226
XD ROFLMAO
>>343100625
I was just fishing for real stalkers.
>>343081346
damn this guys a fucking dirtbag no talent hack.
>>343100620
Is that live like a band playing live or like I live in this house?
How lame does a dev have to be to rip off such simple things like this?
>>343100765
The former sounds like some kind of advertisement for a talk showor strip show
HAY, SO THE GAME IS MADE IN UE3 RIGHT?
is someone can get me the gun models files from this shitfest and blops 3 i can compare them in maya
>>343100765
Live as in live in your house.
>>343100934
its probably how he made the rest of his games just no one noticed or cared.
You guys are making fun of him, but he built something here. He made a solid hame.
He's pretty based.
IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING
>>343100296
hue
>>343101573
have you ever made a game so bad that it ruined your life?
>>343074042
Maybe Sony can sue From Soft for reused DeS assets in DaS and reused BB assets in DaS3?
Sony oughta do that 2bh
>>343077972
Are we talking about literal stolen assets (like elements were ripped from Blops3 and place in Orion), or are we talking about the guns that looks almost the same (trampling on IP)?
The models in Orion are clearly different. All of the indents and things are in different places, proportions are close but not exact. This isn't asset stealing, it's more like tracing, which is still shit but not as bad.
Riddle me this /v/Why do indie devs always turn out to be insufferable man children?
>>343093681
Will consequences ever be the same?
>>343101883
It's a good game.
>>343099276
It'll do, have a (You) for your efforts, Anon.
>>343101937
Anon, those are exact pieces of those guns being taken and mashed together.
>>343101981
You can't fool me, mother fucker, I actually played it.
>>343096557
I love /v/ for exactly that reason
>>343102108
Buy the game again, anon. It's better now. The dev is very competent.
>>343101937
naw, its stolen then modified, i can tell just by looking at them. i wana take both models and load them into maya for a side by side comparison of the polygons actually
>>343101313
Yes, he did build something. Then he burned it to the ground and pissed on the ashes.
This guy threatening to sue people is not very smart. Threatening legal action in this manner can get you in serious trouble.
If he threatens someone that actually knows their shit and has some money could take him to court over the threats(as he has no intention of actually suing them). Why? because if Someone threatens legal action they must be prepared to carry it out. example;
>I will sue you if you do not remove this libel !
I will not remove the content you describe as libelous. I await contact from your lawyer
meanwhile you hire a lawyer and begin groundwork for you defense. the guy does not contact you and it turns out he had no intention of taking legal action.
you can now sue him because you spent time effort and money to begin your defense against the legal action he announced that he would take but failed to.
People cannot throw around threats of a civil action like this if they are not going to back up those threats because it leaves them open to being sued.
This guy is a complete fucking retard.
>>343101313
Dino Beatdown was far from solid and also had stolen assets, just because it was rebranded multiple times doesn't change that it was shit.
>>343075227
Orion was Halo with Dinosaurs right? I remember someone posting concept art and shit on the flamehaus when HL2 modding was cool, he got laughed out of the forum.
>>343096426
>HAHAHA THIS ACCOUNT WAS HACKED BY ANONYMOUS!!
>>343102529
yeah, he has an ED page too
>>343102415
i'm going to sue you for making a threat to sue me!
Americans truly are fucking retarded. all of you, into the gas chambers, now.
>>343102548
so is this fucker phill phish 2.0?
>>343102415
Ah I see that is why he is claiming that he was hacked. I think his lawyer had a word with him.
>look for a random defender on Steam, because I'm bored
>"Prelude gave me so many "OMGWFT HAHAHAHA" moments; please don't give up on this! You have a winner on your hands, and it has the A-List scared. Screw them and keep moving forward."
>sounds like a winner
>check out his profile
>both first and last name present
>last name is, i kid you not, "Lackey"
>top 5 games played are Terraria (with 477 hours), Starbound, Skyrim, TF2, and Saints Row 3 (with 60 hours)
>for fellow planetside 2 players, he plays NC on fucking connery
I imagine every defender I check out is going to be blissfully ironic.
Hi 4chan David here. Going to be honest now. Yes I f***ed up but please leave me alone. This game is all I have to pay my bills and you are killing it. I will stop and admit my mistakes if you stop too please.
>>343102704
Phish was pretty much unique. This is a whole new level
>>343102635
At least we don't take libel suits seriously
>He called me names!
Europeans are faggots
>>343102635
>america
This is all over the civilized world.
and it is about threatening to sue someone explicitly when you have no intention nor grounds to do so.
>>343102285
This is what I'd like to see too.
Editing textures and bump maps is easy and can make he guns looks pretty different. An exact polygonal match would be damning though.
>>343101942
Big companies have manchildren as well, they just also have a PR division.
How many game developers or technophiles do you know that aren't deeply autistic in some way?
When your job revolves around making a fictional world, it's pretty easy to forget that things are different in the real world. That doesn't excuse their actions though.
Fuck Phil Fish in his bearded hipster mouth.
He got caught stealing game assets AGAIN? Jesus Valve, take his dev status away already.
>>343102819
Nice try.
>>343102859
That is not what libel is.
if i call you a retarded cunt it is an insult not libel, if i call you a thief (if you are not) that is libel.
>>343089346
you can't make this shit up
>>343102819
This is not David, guys. David is 100% innocent.
David is a great man that got fucked by his employees(He paid them), he had nothing to do with the stolen models.
guys I was the one hacking him, just look at my name
>>343103130
What if he's not a cunt?`
>>343079884
>then you have US, who literally pay money to do amazing fan service for content like you mentioned above which we GIVE away
They're not trying very hard to hide being total assholes or the person writing it was extremely autistic
>>343102819
make it freeware, then everyone will buy it
that david guy got fucking banned in the steam forum for his own game, you guys
shit's over. they're fucked.
sorry if this has already been stated.
>>343103270
photo.jpg?
That's a weird name.
>>343102635
Things will be different once your shitty country does anything of note.
>>343089346
>192.168......
Fucking hell the guy is clueless.
>>343103372
>that david guy got fucking banned in the steam forum for his own game
Say, what now?
Does anybody know what the story about him not paying employees is about? I remember opening a link last night about some guy named Zavid who claimed he never got paid, but I can't remember what the link was.
>>343103372
Wait what? Link me.
>>343103372
proof nigger
>>343103372
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
I CAN'T BREATH
http://steamcommunity.com/app/104900/discussions/0/616188473087907557/
Can't help but feel bad for the guy.
I mean he do deserve all the shit that's happening to him but holy shit I wouldn't want to be in his shoes right now.
>>343103758
Whoa, this game has some deep lore
>>343103758
> they are simply pieces of a massive puzzle that is now complete
How can one man be so full of himself?
>>343103758
Followed that link and he did indeed get banned from his own forum.
MAXIMUM KEK
>>343103758
thank you anon i only just looked back here now.
yes indeed it is the case.
>>343103758
THIS RABBIT HOLE HAS NO END
BTFO
>>343103758
>http://steamcommunity.com/app/104900/discussions/0/616188473087907557/
>>343103372
oh my fuck, this is amazing
>>343103282
It is an insult.
If i say lena dunham is a child molester she would not be able to win if she tried to sue me for libel. she admitted she molested a child in her own book that she wrote.
When you insult someone you are stating your opinion of them, to call someone a thief or murderer etc is not a statement of an opinion it is something that is either true or false.
>>343103758
What did he get banned for?
>>343103758
This is not funny, fucking savages!
>>343103758
>Valve will take the time to ban someone who made a 99 cent game with stolen assets
>but lets the Gary's Incident guy and hundreds of other shovelware/stolen asset game developers go and continue to give them money
You're an indie dev and you've just been found out. Do you:
>Own up to the fact and try and right wrongs
>bow out of the industry
>lie to and threaten a community that is known for being harsh and unforgiving
Holy fuck this guy is retarded beyond belief
Someone splice banned and "we believe you get what you give" pls
>>343104093
get the fuck out retard
>>343104190
Not a 99 cent game, a $15 game that was renamed twice, had the price eventually dropped to $1 and added a fucking cash shop.
>>343099276
Ayy.
Good find anon.
>>343104093
He was being a massive fucking sperg about a massive companies buisness practices when it had nothing to do with the game or his situation.
Valve probably did him a favor. He was just putting himself in a deeper hole.
>>343104190
There's that weird Spartan game that literally uses the sounds from the film 300
>>343104093
power abuse/harassment
you can't shit on people non-stop, delete all their posts and go unpunished on steam
>>343103758
Holy shit that's rich.
>>343104376
Yes you can. Plenty of indie devs do it all the time. So did the Planetary Annihilation devs when people were calling their shitty game out for costing 99 dollars in alpha. I'm surprised Valve did anything about this.
>>343102415
Sometimes I am remembered that despite the memes, this place is full of professionals, tarding out in their free time.
Does anyone have the game and can post more of the game's assets? I want to see what else can be recognized as stolen.
NEW THREAD, WE CANT STOP HERE
>>343104190
>it's only 99 cents
You and every faggot who reviews with a greentext story of how you got spooped needs to sit on a pile of legos.
>>343103661
If I remember right he was an artist for the original game, and David claimed it was an unpaid internship or something stupid like that.
>>343104273
Call me a retard again and I will sue the living shit out of you.
>>343103758
No fucking way.
I did not even know this was possible.
>>343104636
Not if I sue you first.
>>343079884
>we could easily win them in court but we won't because then we'd be no better than them because muh long game
>we'll make them cover the losses they caused while avoiding going to court over it
this constant aversion to going to court in any way possible makes me think he's fully aware that he's in the wrong and will get fucked up the ass for it if he steps one foot into a courtroom over it
>>343104636
Good luck retard, I'm behind a legal team of seven hebrews.
>>343103758
Holy shit, I'm dying here.I don't think I had this much fun with anything in weeks.
GUYS
HE BANNED HIMSELF
What did he mean by this?
>>343105037
Whatever drug he was on is wearing off.
>>343105037
The best thing he has done. He's getting smarter.
>>343105037
I don't even have a proper image to react to this.
>>343105037
>banned himself to quit digging the hole deeper
woah
>>343104269
I am not sure if this is what you mean, but I meme'd that for ya.
>>343105037
Funniest shit i've seen all week, this thread is gold.
>>343074149
no one but it was on reddit so someone has to repost it here for you's
>>343105037
Oh my god. He's literally having a mental breakdown.
This is just too good.
>>343105242
perfect. thanks. saved
>>343105037
can he even do that? I bet he's lying again.
>>343105037
the fuck
>>343105037
>>343105170
I'll ban myself to keep me from making an ass of myself. But not before using another social media to make an ass of myself anyway!
>>343105037
>>343105170
Nani?
Could't he have just posted, SUSPENDED
>>343105037
wait WHAT
>>343105037
>>343105170
comedy platinum
>>343104636
Well on 4chan you can say whatever you want as the site has a disclaimer that says everything posted here is fiction/falsehood.
So take your dick out of that dog and calm down.
>>343105037
>trust_noone_not_even_yourself.avi
>>343105170
>>343105037
I was just gonna say that it was lucky for him to get banned because he can now calm down and at least start thinking on how he can unfuck this situation.
Banning himself isn't even that stupid too, he gets to calm down and he could claim he legit couldn't defend himself because he was banned.
But him banning himself and then fucking admitting it... He's just told everyone he is a complete braindead moron who can't even control himself
THATS IT! I AM SUEING EVERYONE IN THS FUCKING THREAD. YOU ARE FUCKED KIDS.
>>343105435
needs a stolen gun asset
>>343105170
>>343105037
He should ban himself from life next time
>>343105439
>OI MATES, C'MERE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS BIG SHIT I TOOK
>AINT IT THE BIGGEST STINKER YOU HAVE EVER SEEN?
>>343105170
>>343105037
Remember, David. Rope is always an option.
>>343104514
holy kek
>>343105037
MY
He's beyond human comprehension.
>>343080763
>>343080219
except its not an AK, its an original gun that doesn't exist outside activision's creation.