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>Best Wii U title
>The type of game Nintendo should be making more of
>Great JRPG
>Great OST
>The fact that Nintendo of America mismanaged it and that it was a Wii U game has destroyed any chance in a sequel
Why?
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it's 6/10 game desu
only combat is good
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I hope it gets a spiritual sequel, away from Nintendo.
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>>343066646
music sucks
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>>343066646

Censored content didn't help. I, for one, am not buying it because of that and I love my Wii U games.
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>>343066646
>Best Wii U title

Isn't that what you fucks say about every game released on it?
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>>343066646
i pirated it today and applied the uncensored patch
what should i expect from this game
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>>343067930
Hack your Wii U and get the uncensored version.
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>>343067978
I don't. The Wii U has been a disappointment, but this is a truly great game. It's my favourite Wii U title.
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>>343066646

it's easy to be the best JRPG on the Wii U when you're the only one.

Xenoblade X doesn't count and you know it
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>>343068182

>$0.10 have been deposited into your account
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>>343068293
Say what you want, it's great. Of course you don't have to buy it though, Homebrew is the only way to get the true version.
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It'll get a non-Nintendo-related sequel, in all likelihood a multiplat, because Atlus pretty much said fuck off to Nintendo halfway through it to get those Avex shill checks.
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>>343068229
Why doesn't it count?
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decided to buy it, am loving it so far even with the idol animu cringe stuff, I'm even liking some of it but I have to keep the volume down in case neighbours hear

combat is solid as fuck, but I'm only on chapter 1, tiki calling me onii chan gets me hard
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I wouldn't be surprised if this series found a future on the 3DS Japan only as well
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>>343068406

something something dark souls western influences something something
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>>343068521

by gorvachov you sound like a pleb.I bet you play persona unironically too.
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>>343068775
I only play persona ironically of course :^)
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>>343068229
Not really a "traditional" JRPG.
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>>343068913
no such thing friend, jrpg means japanese rpg, it's not a genre but merely a way to describe an rpg from japan
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>>343069116

then explain demon's souls, monster hunter, dragon's domain, the western direction FFXV is taking, Xenoblade X, fuck even the first one. why are jap devs suddenly realizing that weebshit doesn't appeal to the west outside of a few franchises and they are trying to appeal to normies by "westernizing" jrpgs?

Buddy of mine works at a FUCKING GAMESTOP that shall we say "has a reason they close at 5PM on weekdays" and they've gotten store record preorders for FFXV when they normally NEVER get preorder for jrpgs outside of when employees do it.
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>>343069598
youve just all described jrpgs, there is nothing at all to be explained, I'm struggling how you are failing to see jrpg = japanese role playing game
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>>343066646
i doubt that it's better than Bayonetta 2 and Mario Kart 8.
there are also a shitton of other JRPGs comming out now and later this year.
i'm gonna pass.
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>>343068663
If it's gonna keep getting censored, then it's fine for it to stay in Japan.
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>>343069723

yeah but if a gaijin attempts to make an anime inspired rpg you'll get fucking lynched if you dare call it a wrpg
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Atlus made it, of course it was gonna be solid

Now Atlus said fuck you to nintendo for being too intrusive in development and SMT:F will be their final game on a nintendo platform
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>>343069116
Nah I'd say JRPG as a term has evolved into a genre of its own. Like, I'd probably consider something like Child of Light to be along the lines of a JRPG
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>>343070038

nah that's a mario rpg

learn your subgenres anon
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>>343066646
#FE is an example of why you don't announce shit early in development.

It started out as SMT x FE but they realized how hard it is to do crossovers without it being total garbage, so they ended up changing the game into something more original.

#FE still gets bad press from people butthurt about it not being a legit crossover like the trailer originally implied. It probably would have done a lot better if they had just waited till they had shit to show but that was back when the Wii U legit didn't have shit on it or shit coming out for it, so they just panic announced a bunch of games.
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>>343069598
FFXV isn't westernized.

Square-Enix is just marketing the game to the max. Like all western companies do with their AAA games.
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>>343070221

you are absolutely right. this is entirely nintendo's fault for showing stock footage as a trailer and giving people false hope. But because they did #FE can fuck off to the bargain bin for all I care regardless of it's quality or lack there of.
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>>343070221

Wasn't it announced on the same direct as the Bayonetta 2 reveal? They could have just rode that hype for a year then announce this project as an Atlus X FE game instead of cockteasing everyone with characters who never show up in the final game.
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>>343069971
Good.
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>>343070264

they literally said they were westernizing it at E3 though. Also Square ALWAYS whores out mainline FFs. Too bad they never do even a tenth of the same for Dragon Quest.
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>>343070520
DQ is nothing on the west
Thanks for square never making a big deal of it outside of japan
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>>343070221

I still to this day hold a grudge on Nintendo for Spaceworld 2000's zelda footage. I still have never touched anything with Toon Link's mug on it and I plan to keep it that way.
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>>343066646
>Idol shit
You can say it's good all you want it doesn't make it true. I get you have to eat the crap nintendo feeds you because no games but seriously it is ridiculous at this point
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>>343070447

sup Vitadrone. Shouldn't you be happy you're getting Minecraft:Dragon Quest Edition? Or Heroes 2?
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>>343070038
Congrats man you have literally have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
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>only played FE on gba
>only played Devil survivor
>not a weeb, my favorite rpg is M&L
>Still, really want to play this shit


Im downloading the game right now, hope its good and hope I can patch it. Any advices for this game?
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>>343070730
Lucky you that toon Link's games aren't very good then.
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>>343070440
I know SMTxFE was announced in a January direct, I can't remember when the first actual look of #FE was.

You're right though, it would have been better if they just didn't announce it as SMTxFE at all. Then when they had the #FE trailer ready, they could have shown it and called it a collaboration between Atlus and IS. Would have had much better reception.
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>>343070926
Play it on hard, because Normal is piss easy, and Easy is like watching the game play itself.
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>>343070440
>announce this project as an Atlus X FE game instead of cockteasing everyone with characters who never show up in the final game.

LITERALLY all they had to do. Just announce that it's an Atlus game, hell maybe even announce that it's part MegaTen because there are several series in the entire franchise that are very different from each other, but they should have never shown the SMT characters with that dark, foreboding music.
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>>343068110

What exactly was "censored"

If it was just a few bikinis I couldnt care less.
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>>343071039
Thats actually a great advice, usually play on normal the first time, thank you anon
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>>343071189

vagina bones, dresses, dialogue, VOICED dialogue, dungeons, character arcs, DLC, smoke clouds, inconsistant censorship.
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>>343070926
When you get more than 3 party members, you can switch one party member out for another without using up their turn(except Itsuki, he always has to participate so you can't switch him out).

You just can't keep everyone the same level so don't really try. It's better to keep everyone around a certain level though since you'll want to be switching them out in battle due to not being able to have every type of physical and magic attack on 3 characters. Reserve members also get a fuck ton less EXP and Mastery if they don't participate.
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>>343066646
It's mediocre at best.
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>>343071189
Some bikini costumes were changed to completely new costumes, some racey costumes were covered up a bit more, they covered up three frames worth of a panty shot in battle for one costume, they aged up all the characters by a year to make Tsubasa 18 instead of 17, they removed a DLC dungeon, and they changed a bit of chapter 2 to remove mentions of Guravure modeling, and some jokey conversations that appear in later chapters referring to it.

It's basically entirely fucking nothing aside from the modeling storyline. If anything, the censorship is bad because it's ridiculously inconsistent.
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>idolshit

It was doomed from the start in the west
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>>343067930
I bought it for the simple fact that it actually had the original voice cast. The censorship really sucks but I honestly consider forced dubs to be an even worse affront. And I'd like to make a statement with my purchase that keeping the original voices is something that should be rewarded.

Though sadly I really appear to be in the clear minority of this. People always bitch about the quality of localizations and then they don't put their money where their mouth is.

I mean fuck. Censorship really sucks. But forced dubs are just as bad if not worse in the majority of the cases. And if a game without a dub does spectacularly then that stands out. But if a game with censorship does poorly then it's just a dime a dozen and likely won't have an impact on localization at all.
Really. Choose your battles. Opposing terrible localization practices is all great and all, but you will never get far if you don't also stop to support good localization practices. But I guess it's a moot point at this point because #FE is hardly a great success either way.

It's still a great game though and I am really happy that I got it. Whether or not you pirate it, the very thought of the great number of fans of Atlus RPGs that are just skipping the game one way or another is just sad.
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Gameplay is fun.
Music is great.
Characters are mediocre.
Story is passable.
It's a solid 7/10; only reason I'm still playing is to see if the story goes anywhere fun and the combat. Plus, it's a reason to dust off the Wii U and not feel buyer's remorse.
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>>343070842
>vita
All of the games I want are on 3ds, I'm just sick of Nintendo's shit.
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>>343071558
Every case of censorship is "fucking nothing", but the mere principle of removing content from the game - obscuring the original intent or damaging the creative vision - is incredibly offensive.

Especially when it gives the wrong idea about the Japanese entertainment industry.
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Is this worth trying if I like RPGs but never cared for Persona?
The dungeon design and combat system in those games never clicked with me at all, and this has been presented as being Diet Persona: Fire Emblem Edition in all the marketing.
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>>343071734

>the very thought of the great number of fans of Atlus RPGs that are just skipping the game one way or another is just sad.

I've been playing Atlus games since Thousand Arms on PS1. Don't fucking blanket statement people, TMS is mediocre at best.
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>>343071763

>music is great

no it's not.

>story is great

final boss is literally LE SHADOW DRAGON stop just stop
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>>343072151
>Don't fucking blanket statement people
How was that even a blanket statement on people? I just find it sad to see so many people not even give the game a chance.
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>>343072225
>story is great

He said passable, read my man
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>>343071734
At this point, I'm convinced that most of the "I can't see Tsubasa's panties for three frames censorship CENSORSHIP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" people don't even own Wii U's, or had no intentions of playing this game to begin with. Shitting on Nintendo has always been the cool thing to do, and the recent Fire Emblem censorship is just low hanging fruit.

Daily reminder that Nintendo has been censoring the series ever since it left Japan with FE7, and none of you faggots cared until they took away the option to dress your waifu up in a bikini and pat her head in a fucking strategy game
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>>343072339

>lie to fans
>alienate them by appealing to none of them
>cause in fighting between pro and anti camps
>gets censored despite fanservice being a selling point
>neo weebshitters constant dick stroking
>it's a Wii U exclusive

GEE I FUCKING WONDER WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING TO IGNORE IT?
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>>343072225
I never said the story was great.
Music is an entirely subjective, but everything outside of the idolshit music is good. You're probably only saying it's shit because it's idolshit, too.
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>>343072603
I don't find it strange. I just find it sad because the game on a gameplay levels still holds the fine qualities one would expect. That's all.
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>>343072713

oh the classic "you only hate it because Dante's hair isn't white" argument. Can't you just accept people have different opinions instead of browbeating people into liking it?
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>>343066773
good rating, it's a decent game.
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>>343072594
Fuck off idiot, the problem is that things were getting progressively better, until 2014 or so, where nintendo started doing their stupid shit again. Every release is fucking worse than the last.
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>you will never cum inside tiki's loli tight pussy
y liv
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>>343072603
>lie to fans
This
They should never have tried to say this was fire emblem or SMT
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>>343073083

so Square Enix is Media Blasters?
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>>343073234
I think they based it off Drakengaard 3, which was outsourced to 8-4.
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>>343072862
No, I'm saying that you probably only hate the music because of the select few vocal tracks and are extending your hate towards the genre to the rest of the OST. There is nothing wrong with the actual composition, and saying it's shit is just wrong.

And I fucking own the vocal track CD.
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>>343073448

oh you caught my ruse. I don't like most j-pop.

Fucking sue me then.
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>>343072594
>they did it when you were younger and ignorant so it's fine for them to carry on
Get AIDS.
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Any sales numbers for the West yet?
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Why the fuck did they use only Akaneia characters for the Mirages? Why the hell does Japan love Marth so much?
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>>343066646
>The fact that Nintendo of America mismanaged it and that it was a Wii U game has destroyed any chance in a sequel
We also will never see Xenoblade X2, Fatal Frame VI (in the West), Devil's Fourth, Wonderful 102.
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>>343072225
>final boss is literally LE SHADOW DRAGON stop just stop
So like every FE game ever? who would have thought this would take ideas from that franchise?
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>>343069971
Etrian Odyssey V.
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>>343074153
Why does America love FE7 so much?
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>>343069971
>Now Atlus said fuck you to nintendo for being too intrusive in development and SMT:F will be their final game on a nintendo platform
That's interesting. Do you have a source?
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>>343074506

FE7 has held up over the years at latest. Marth's games don't even have the fucking weapon triangle.
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>>343074248
And it's their own goddamn fault.
Hopefully NX gets hacked early.
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>>343074248
>XCX
Nigga I'm pretty sure that we going have another xenoblade game.
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>>343074697
It will be no direct sequel.
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>>343072072
It's more like DDS and Nocturne than Persona.
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>XCX has superior combat and gameplay but meh story
>WAAA MUH STORY SHIT GAME

>#FE has decent gameplay but meh story
>I LOVE IT, BEST JRPG EVER WHO CARES ABOUT STORY

explain yourselves
>inb4 le mmo
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>>343074248
redpill me on devil's third. Reviewers hated W101 and it turned out to be my favorite game this gen.
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>>343075338
It's an Itagaki game (the guy who made Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden. Not the old NES ones, but the rebooted hard as balls ones). That should be enough to tell you exactly what to expect.
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>>343073083
Sooo Atlus is the only decent one?

Yeah there's something wrong with that.
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>>343075338
Devil's 3rd is hella fun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGRsIBRFNjM
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>Fire emblem X Smt
>It's even more dumbed down persona with Idols
>10/10 nintendo does it again NINTENDOMINATION ZELDA GOAT 2017
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>>343074663
It's also nostalgia.
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>>343066646
>current year
>liking kusoge the likes of shat by Idea Fuck and Compile Fart
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>Best Wii U title
Wrong.
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>"Best Wii U title"
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>>343075798
are you implying that NES ninja gaiden wasn't hard as hell?

sure, most of it was due to how memory limitations caused enemies to respawn freely, but still
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>>343076792
looks like a slashy version of vanquish. I'll have to give it a try
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>>343080351
>are you implying that NES ninja gaiden wasn't hard as hell?
I'm not implying anything. I am outright stating that Itagaki had nothing to do with those games. Nothing more, nothing less.
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>>343067560
>he didn't get the special edition of the JRPG of the year
>he didn't immediately rip the killer OST and use the stickers inside
At least you have a rockin body, Anon.
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>>343069769
>MK8
>good
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>>343066646
>Best
That's not Bayonetta 2 ya fucking weeb.
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>>343066646
>reviewers complain about strange journey's combat system
>atlus reuses strange journey's combat system for #FE but simplifies it
>reviewers suddenly love it now
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>>343074663
I thought that only FE1 and 2 didn't have a weapon triangle.
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I have a friend who bought the Limited Edition and he brought it over to play it.
I may have been still salty that this game wasn't actually the SMT x FE we all thought it would be, but I still would've bought the game if the censorship wasn't out of control and inconsistent.
For instance:
>Tsubasa had that one outfit with the zipper panties removed
>All of a sudden, in the intro cutscene, they have poster of that WITH said zipper panties, but it was being covered by a green NPC's head
Yeeeaaaaah, I'm just gonna download the uncensored version, instead. BTW, does using Wii U piracy affect playing games online/buying games on the eShop/system updates in general?
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>>343081697
It was added in FE4
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>>343081326
>simplifies it
SJ system was literally just having demons of the same alignment in the party to do neutral damage, how was it simplified?
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>>343081789
You won't be able to update your system, you will be able to play your games online until Nintendo releases a new firmware, and we've been on the same firmware for 7 months now.

And if you have access to Loadiine, why is the ability to access the E-Shop a concern to you?
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>>343068387
I wanna fuck Lucina.
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>>343081994
>why is the ability to access the E-Shop a concern to you
Wouldn't there be things I can't get with Loadiine that I CAN get on the eShop? I'm not talking about retail games, I'm talking more about Wii games, roms (they have Drill Dozer and it apparently has the rumble features) and cool indie games like B3: Game Expo for Bees.
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>>343072594
>Daily reminder that Nintendo has been censoring the series ever since it left Japan with FE7

What was censored in FE7 because I remember being surprised at the dialog in that game with stuff like the guy who wanted to cut Lyn's skin off so he could keep it.
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>>343066646
>best wii u title
>what is smash
>what is mk8
>what is zelda u
>what is xcx
>what is bayo 2
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>>343083229
>Smash
Brawl is better, in terms of content/fanservice. The only thing 4 has is better online. HAL should make the next Smash. Fuck Sakurai/Sora Ltd..
>MK8
Maybe.
>Zelda U
Not out yet. We don't know if it's plagued with any sort of garbage yet.
>XCX
Maybe.
>Bayo 2
Overrated. Only thing it has over 1 is the Lumen Sage fights.
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this sums up the Tokyo mirage fan base
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKFKl22j1RY
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is the xp and skill DLC worth it?
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