Can someone tell me how did youtube gaming fail? How did it lose to a company that does this kind of shit?
I'd genuinely like to stream on twitch but 4 things stop me.
Fear of no viewers
Hatred of the whole concept of making money from it
Boob Streamers
Time
Whenever I visit the site I just turn chat off because every chat I've seen before I did that was a toxic hell hole
>toxic
kill yourself and crawl back to r eddit
>>343058713
Nobody wants to watch you play videogames, and realizing that is step 1 in becoming part of the solution.
Youtube gaming failed because it decided to show up to the party 4 hours late.
>>343058713
It was a failure since the beginning. It's a google product so... it was pure shit even before day 1.
From what I've seen don't streamers only read comments from people who give them donations? So this will basically give viewers a way to throw away their money while still being ignored.
>microtransactions for twitch
>>343058713
So this shit is basically just donations straight through Twitch, right?
>>343058713
Twitch was already established and the big streamers didn't want to and have no reason to move to youtube gaming.
>>343061405
Basically
>>343060915
>it's a product of the most valuable company in the world so it must suck
You're not making sense.
lmao isn't this like the token systems on camwhore sites
>>343061541
Enjoying your google+ account I see. Keep crying and trying.
Twitch was there first.
If Google wants YouTube gaming to succeed, they can do what own3d try to do and pay top streamers. It kinda worked, except that own3d ran out of money.
Wow, that's really fucking stupid.
>>343061914
What in the fuck.Jesus fucking christ.This is cancer in the most pure form.
>>343061405
They have been trying for years to get a piece of all those donations streamers get.
The Streamer can still decide if he wants to enable it. Ive yet to see one who has.
>>343061914
>That one faggot in OP's image dropping 5000's like its nothing
>>343061914
that 12% discount, tho
>>343062190
i think that was a fake video
>>343062127
because they only picked a handful for the beta
>>343062190
you know it's a promo material
>set up my twitch stream because it looks fun to stream vidya for others
>it's uncomfortable as fuck
I just want to play videogames, having to worry about being entertaining and not focusing on the game sucks.
The sad part of this is it will work and it wil make gorillions for twitch because people are just this loose and this stupid with their money
I don't even like twitch but I'm glad that YouTube finally has some kind of competition.
>>343061914
>picking up chaturbate mechanics
i see where it goes, they rly knows how to please twitch sluts
>>343062259
if you use a facecam or do blogshit you're a cancer redditor and should seriously kill yourself.
longplays are the only acceptable form of streaming unless you are doing walkthrough/guides or are top 1% mmr
It still kills me that a lot of top streamers fake donations (or at least did when they started).
>>343061914
>>343058713
is this fucking real
>>343062408
People who type like you should probably actually kill themselves.
That said I only tried it once, realised it wasn't for me and never did it again.
>>343062127
Good,youtube is cancer anyway.
>>343061914
What the fuck
So what's the fucking point? Trying fool these retards into giving more money to these people? How is this any different than just donating to someone?
>>343058713
>combining your youtubechannel with the youtube streaming service
>youtubestream strikes affect your channel
Bravo, google.
>>343062595
It's different than donations in a way that Twitch takes a cut
>>343062590
Don't click
>>343062595
>How is this any different than just donating to someone?
twitch doesnt get anythng from donations
>I really want to stream on Twitch, but I hate Twitch
Then stream somewhere else, idiot.
>>343062503
fuck off back to /r/gaming you autistic newshit
>>343062231
>>343062237
I know, but it's still ridiculous even in concept
>>343062190
>People on /v/ are this dumb
>>343061914
how much worse can this get I just want to watch my wrestling fanfics in fucking peace.
>>343061541
Most of Google's products are underveloped and full of problems. They throw a lot of shit at the wall and only focus on what sticks.
They didn't become huge by making quality, but quantity.
>>343062590
>hating on skeletons
Get a load of this meatbag.
YouTube streaming is actually better than twitch... for the viewers. It has more options like live rewind and higher stream quality options without needing to be a top streamer but these are only beneficial to watchers.
Twitch allows streamers to be much more Jew and get lots of money which is all they care about.
>>343062595
Donations are 100% to the streamer.
This is just a way to incentivize donations for Twitch.
>>343062458
Yes
I'm sure they're just trying to pick up those titty bucks because it keeps putting whores with boob cameras in my "recommended viewing" even though I mostly only watch no commentary rhythm game streams.
>>343062595
Twitch is the middle man instead of paypal with a 30% cut.Just hear say but its more then 10% if the discounts are any indication.
>>343061991
i checked it out and a streamer said he made 31k bits in less than 1 hour of the update going live
>>343062784
>Donations are 100% to the streamer.
So why do they have to do this through their own retarded currency instead of just, you know, including a fucking donation button like stream.me?
>siglemic will never drown in bits for beating 1:39
>>343062851
Generally on porn sites they go 50/50.
>>343062931
>literally who will never drown in bits for beating 1:39
ftfy
>>343062802
>rhythm game
There's your problem.
>>343062869
people on this >>343062521 make a lot with donations, 31k is nothing
>>343063024
I want to watch a streamer hook up a dildo to the audio and watch her play a rhythm game.
>>343062782
I only stream for friends, but I've noticed that Youtube is much better, at least in my case. Whenever I try streaming on Twitch my stream starts lagging/freezing, which doesn't happen on youtube. And I have a good internet connection so the problem can't be on my end. I've also seen people complaining about Twitch servers and how they're shit especially if you're not a top streamer like you've said. I also remember Twitch restricting quality options for streamers unless you're famous. Dunno if they've changed it.
>>343062904
To make it appear less jewish.
>>343063113
Their site player still uses flash.
>>343062904
if anything I hope this cleans up all those jingles on the screen
>new game out
>wanna check what's up
>screen is filled with shit
>streamer constantly thanks sheikh_mahmud and billy98 for donations
>>343062904
Because it's less transparent and idiots get to feel special with their emoticons/badges.
>>343062904
cause twitch get a cut from those donations
>>343062904
I'm sure there's some sort of logic behind special currency on websites. Probably to incentivize the focus of money in their circle only.
They'll roll out the update that lets you buy channel support with it, then they'll try to slowly phase out the other options, all while putting Twitch cards up on store shelves.
>>343063321
Nigga it wont
The reason people donate is for the callouts.
>>343058713
>Hatred of the whole concept of making money from it
lol why, imagine making money by doing somthing you like, you dont have to become an obnoxious cunt or a boob streamer or whatever
in fact, you just shouldn't think about that in the first place, autist
If we're gonna complain about streamers, I've got a gripe I noticed yesterday.
There's one I follow on twitter, solely for the selfies she posts. She was stuck at the DMV for 5 hours and proclaimed
>No stream tonight, too tired
She does this for a living, being "too tired" from doing literally nothing fucking offends me.
>>343058713
google can be very dense/arrogant sometimes. Just because they're google they think they can shunt something else and replace an established service. It's amusing though, in their desperation to be the "next facebook" or "next twitch" they've missed the boat on what they should have been doing: competing with amazon.
Also seriously everything youtube-related they put out is trash. No, I don't want shitty youtube red for 99 cents. I don't want it for free.
>>343061405
yes.
i wouldn't be surprised if eventually they add a "feature" that only allows donations through them, and actively bans all outside donations.
also, can't donate unless a minimum number of bits is reached. sounds stupid, right? it will happen. just watch.
not to mention this whole thing cheapens Twitch since it is now associated with camwhore sites.
>>343063923
I wosh google fiber would trash shitty american isps
>>343063995
I think that's the most promising thing they've come up with so far.
Question is how long it'll take to realize.
>>343058713
Google are retards.
They can't do anything that isn't pure tech.
>>343063849
they live such a hard life. sitting at their computers playing games all day, acting like idiots.
it's very "tiring".
>>343063995
then you'll just complain about google fiber. kek.
>>343063849
>There's one I follow on twitter
Stopped reading there
>>343063849
Mental fatigue, she's not physically struggling, she'll have been too tired to engage with a stream. have you never had a time where you just wanna turn your brain off and relax?
How long until google starts hiring street samurai to trash their rivals' offices?
>>343064204
My main issue with american isps is they want way too much for way too little
But 70 a month for gigabit is perfect if you ask me
>>343063995
google fiber is one of their best products. Is it still expanding or did they give up on it to chase something stupid?
>>343063849
>Streamer says he's not in the mood, so he won't be streaming tonight
>Next day he says he's suddenly depressed, so he's taking some time off
>This happens almost every month
>If he's not depressed then he's got "real life stuff" to take care of and doesn't stream for days
>Anytime he streams, he always rants about something and thinks he's right about everything
>People still support him
>>343064225
Look, I find her attractive but everything else about her is insufferable. I refuse to watch her stream.
>>343064239
I don't consider that valid for this "line of "work""
>>343064323
They ran into the law that keeps isps from eating the currenta big guys lunch and allows them to remain monopolies
>>343063976
It would be just a matter of updating their terms of service but it would be a gamble they probably don't want to make. People are lazy to change for only slight advantages but that could be too much to swallow.
>>343058713
>Fear of no viewers
I mean, no one starts with hundreds of viewers, get a few friends to watch or something
>Hatred of the whole concept of making money from it
Seems pretty good to me, sitting around all day playing games and making money. However, every streamer that makes enough money to make a living out of it becomes a huge fucking jew
>Boob Streamers
i don't see why this would stop you from streaming
>Time
Yeah, this one you just gotta find time for it. 2 hours, 3 hours per day
Chat is cancer because the streamer allows it. Be on top of it and you're fine
>>343064349
hello monotone tim
>>343062904
What do think sounds worse in the average Joe's mind?
>I just spent 100 dollars on donations for a random streamer
or
>I just spent 10000 fictional currency shit on a donation for a random streamer
You don't notice how much money your spend on something if you never actively see how much you waste.
It's the same with those Disney World dollars and shit.
What happened to this guy? Does he still stream? I remember him streaming non-stop for days and always bitching about something.
>>343064465
he still streams to a few thousand people but he's drowned out by "better" streamers
>>343064349
Say what you want about Lirik but he's been really consistent with his schedule ever since. The only day where he doesn't stream are Thursdays and even then he sometimes does something when he feels like it.
>>343064349
mvg
I don't understand why people give him money. Such a fucking cunt, and the gameplay is minimal
>>343058713
when everyone has a megaphone and a camera, all you hear and see is shit.
>>343064450
As a person with a rational mind that'd just unsettle me.
Good thing I never spent a dime on twitch or twitch streamers.
Always love it when they complain about not getting donations, the entitled cunts.
Why the fuck would any streamer sign up to this? At least when someone donates 5 dollars, it's 5 dollars entering into the paypal system and getting effected.
This token shit is some currency that Twitch can just arbitrarily devalue whenever they feel like it, especially due to their being price breaks on buying tokens.
>>343064610
I feel the same about lirik. i watch his stream eveyrday and it fucking pisses me off how much money he makes
>>343064465
Someone edit him as sonic
>>343064703
The only streamers that currently have it enabled are the ones that make a shitload of money from Twitch either way so they just don't really care.
However, for smaller streamers this system is horrible since it's not gonna take much longer now till Twitch forbids any outside donations.
>>343058713
For me it failed because they want your telephone number.
>>343064734
It's the "he's just like you and me" meme.
No idea who came up with it, lirik is just some arab with barebones english vocabulary being bad at videogames, with no real insights or charisma.
>>343058713
Hey StalkerUKCG, if you are going to post on NeoGAF and on /v/ at the same time at least change what you write so we can't tie you back to a place that is easily hated here - and the fact that mods on Neogaf can find this post and potentially ban you. I personally don't care, but you know... anyways good luck friend.
>>343064610
>Someone subs to him
>He pauses the game to say how thankful he is
>This happens every few minutes
>Someone says he's shit at the game
>Man stops the game and goes on a rant
>After 10 minutes he resumes the game, but still rants for an hour or more
I still remember watching that Trials stream where the dev team was watching his livestream. Man was struggling at some level and the level creator tweeted him saying he's pretty bad or something (it was meant to be as a joke because he didn't outright say he's shit), but Man took an offense to that and went on a rant and started swearing at that dev for like half an hour. Even when the dev said it was a joke and apologized, Man was still pissed.
Can someone explain to me why twitch takes a 28% cut with each cheer amount? thats so much...
> its a streamer constantly says hype episode
just stop
>>343064349
britbong in a nutshell
>>343064989
Because Youtube Gaming failed and because why not since they are a solid monopoly on gaming streams?
>>343064939
>going to echochambergaf
So... what happened to Hitbox?
>>343063849
I'm usually too tired to stream because ofworkbut not having no more than 5 people most of the time is discouraging too.
>stream mostly 2 hours or more
>viewers ask questions and I answer them the best I can
>I play what I want but I also ask for suggestions (someone told me to stream Dishonored so I picked it up during the sale)
>have a face cam but depending on how I feel I just leave it off
>don't feel I'm big or good enough yet to join a stream team or ask for donations
I just want to play and talk about games while entertaining people but it's hard getting a following.
>>343065189
Irrelevant. People still stream there especially content that's not allowed on Twitch, but that's pretty much it.
>>343065158
/v/ is just as much of an echochamber as GAF is. I don't see your point?
>>343065189
S/he never stood a chance
>>343065189
The guys running the show are just as bad as twitch.
Better stay away from it if you can.
>>343065267
>>have a face cam but depending on how I feel I just leave it off
I bet you're sitting in a white room with no decorations too.
>>343062127
It's still in beta testing. Dan was helping test it yesterday and it was the cringiest shit ever.
>>343065189
it's still around. They've got some big name streamers there I think.
>>343065283
There's some truth to this statement. I'd argue that /v/ isn't as bad though. There is usually a majority opinion but you can always find dissenting ones as well. On the other hand I've seen gaf threads where dissenting opinions are outright permabanned for being problematic. That's clearly a whole different level of bullshit. Maybe it's gotten better but I doubt it. I joined in 2008 but left for good once it embraced that political horseshit.
so what stops some one from making a freeware streaming platform that generates revenue through ads?
surely with the bullshit twitch pulls out now there will be enough people willing to make the switch.
>>343065453
I have a television and the occasional cat in the background
>>343061914
Smart decision for making more money but it looks so damn jewish
>>343058713
because youtube are a bunch of kikes and google is an evil company. no one wants to use anything of theirs anymore. if there is an alternative people will and should use it.
>>343065601
the money to support such a thing
>>343065602
Occasional pets are always nice.
Get a pet snake and watch people spam OSkomodo whenever it gets onscreen.
>>343065768
>getting a pet for meme responses on the internet
you disgust me
ster is the only ok streamer as far as how they treat it goes
>>343065550
It definitely did change, I used to be an old time member and was permabanned this past year. It wasn't as strict as it used to be, and people even that go against the grain had a fair. Now if you want to go against the general hivemind thought process you are walking on eggshells so you don't offend anyone but somehow still get your point across. It had to go to shit one day.
>>343065768
Get a donation pool along side it for the name of the rats that its going to eat.
>>343065768
I'm thinking about just getting a green screen because it looks nicer but I want my channel to sort of pick up first before I make a commitment like that.
youtube gaming had the absolute worst UI possible
someone got paid to throw this shit together
>>343066031
I would get green screen but i dont know how to chroma key
>>343064465
he's just an obnoxious twitch shill now
>>343064939
You are no better for browsing neogaf yourself faggot. OP is loads better than you since he didn't make it known he was a neogafer until the flaming retard known as you did.
Kill yourself.
>>343066031
Unless you're really fucking goodlooking I'd rather stick to a normal facecam and decorate the background appropriately.
>>343066034
>all those bullshit on the side
>>343065941
Yeah he's alright. I like his YT channel too but I wish he'd upload more than once every four months.
>>343058713
Tried it for 5 minutes then a messege popped up saying that if i didnt stop playing copyrighter music they would shut down my channel. Never looked back.
Fuck Twitch. I want Justin.tv back.
Google was a day late and a dollar short. The company is too big to be nimble, and like Microsoft, there's infighting over politics and competing initiatives. Sometimes they buy companies out for billions and STILL can't meaningfully iterate (see their purchase of Nest, which hasn't come out with a new product since they were acquired by Google).
They are basically a giant that can impose chrome to control certain aspects of the web but not meaningfully compete on new services.
>>343066219
I'm an above average lookingblack man
>>343058713
kys autist
>>343066431
I guess 'scool then.
Blacks are the better entertainers anyway.
>>343065974
Yeah, the forums are generally very sterile because everyone's afraid to post. Unless you're adopting a "progressive" opinion, then you get a free pass regardless of how fucking stupid the post is. If you call someone out on this though? Banned.
>>343066431
>black
Just say you're a huge weaboo and keep talking about your waifus and shit while playing some fighting games and I can gurantee you that you'll be successful.
DSS only plays Miku these days and usually has no problems getting a few 100 people to watch him suck at it.
>>343066313
This. Sadly it's never coming back and even if someone made something similar to what jtv was I doubt it'd be popular enough.
>>343065470
Dan is cringy as fuck at anytime anyway. Just rewatching some of his 2 or 3 year old footage makes me realize how much of a jew he became. His attitude is so bad nowadays, can't say anything he doesn't agree with, he immediately gets pissy. Money changes everyone
>>343064734
>>343064884
What gets me is that Lirik is the biggest asshole imaginable. Whenever he plays poorly he always blames the game or something else. He also regularly insults anyone he plays against, his subs, and his viewers calling them 'plebs' and treating them like dirt.
It's fucking ridiculous why so many people like him and how he regularly pulls in 30k viewers a day.
How do I get more viewers?
What is the best game to get new fans interested in your stream?
Shit like league or HS is pretty much impossible because you have to scroll past 4-5 pages just to see the 1-3 viewer streamers and no one will do that.
>>343066649
A person who's a shitbag attracts other shitbags. Notice how many people get mad at video games and always blame someone else instead of themselves for playing like shit. His viewers are probably the same as him and they feel like they can relate to him.
>>343066313
Man I remember spending hours watching some guy streaming a leaked copy of GTA IV back in 2008. Good times.
>>343066620
I used to watch Dan every Halloween, but recently I realized he stopped being funny. It's not just the fact that he's no longer scared of anything, but these days he forces these lame jokes and puns ALL THE TIME and his chat would always explode in laughter. He's also gotten so butthurt lately that if you criticize him or say anything negative he'll literally permaban you, put the entire channel on submode and go on a rant about why people are assholes and he can't give them a chance and blahblahblah.
He also got ridiculously fat for some reason.
>>343066820
take part in a growing hobby (a lot of shitters did this with speedrunning) until you get an initial userbase, then switch to something more popular
>>343066175
I can browse whatever the fuck I want. I actually don't depend on the sole opinions of the autistic retards on this board to form an opinion. No matter what issues other boards have, it's still good to see different views and opinions rather than stick to one place because:
>I'm a hardcore autist that only browses /v/ and fuck all those cucks and PC/SJW faggots
You need to go outside more anon.
>>343066820
Dunno. I honestly think the market is over-saturated. You need to find some niche that attracts a specific group of people but I'm sure you know that already as a lot of people are trying to do the exact same thing.
I honestly don't care for Twitch, I don't watch any streams either unless it's Bisquit showing some programming shit.
I will use YouTube's streaming shit though, they offer far better upper limits and quality for streaming than Twitch and even transcode it for you which is great. Twitch can handle shit unless you're popular or want to pay.
>>343066820
Be original, play obscure games or games in a niche franchise like Castlevania where you know the interest is there to help the streamer get through the game with their metaknowledge or watch him struggle.
That's what I'd do.
>>343062521
ironically thats most of those streamers i already hated in the first place
>>343066552
Yeah lately the gaming discussion has been filled with "there aren't enough minorities in video games" or "why is [insert character] not a female or at least gay"
For some reason it has become flavor of the month to be as super progressive as possible, it just feels so cheap to see so many people complain why game companies are essentially not pandering more? And the kicker I bet a large majority are white males, I guess they think their white privilege is something they need to fix? It's fucking stupid, it's painful to read anything anyone posts there anymore.
>>343066969
You're the one who called him out for browsing neogaf originally dipshit. Here you dropped something!
>>343058713
>Can someone tell me how did youtube gaming fail?
It didn't and it's where the money is at. When you go by revenue for video game related content Youtube is far ahead.
You suffer from the misguided notion that live streaming is how people make a lot of money (and as such have lots of views) when in reality pre-recorded content is the main cash cow. I believe it was a 1:5 ratio last I read anything about it.
The only reason twitch is being commonly referenced is that for amtateurs there's no compeition in the form of other media content people might want to view instead. On twitch the entire site funnels its users into a certain stream they then watch and if a streamer is on top of the page he's bound to stay on top of the page while on youtube there's a ton of video content from all interests a person could have that is fed to users with rather advanced algorithms. That means on Youtube someone might get sidetracked by funny videos or music where on twitch they are stuck watching other streamers.
If twitch streams do not up their production value and issue more quality content then in the long run they'll lose to other forms of more entertaining and better condensed content. It's not fun watching someone play a medicore game while desperately trying to be funny when you could watch a (well) scriped and (well) edited 20 minute video instead and then hop to the next one. This, however, is an industry concern and you as user don't have to worry about it.
>>343064939
ROFL
Seriously though. Everyone in this thread bitching about streaming gems and shit need to realize they are part of the cancer. Seriously, look at all the e-celeb bullshit threads on /v/ lately. This is on you, younger generation.
>>343067263
Yeah I called him out to teach him to vary his posts from one board to another because, believe it or not retard, mods on Neogaf can and will ban you if they find you posting something unsavory on another board.
Are you his fucking lawyer or some shit? Go suck a dick elsewhere kid.
>>343066551
I feel I'm most entertaining when I play Overwatch
>>343066586
People keep telling me to play SFV again but nobody wants to watch me fight the millions of Kens and Ryus in super bronze. I need that one game that will get me fans and not random 14 year olds trying to make me mad saying racist shit.D.Va and Cammy are my only waifus
why are people so mad? it's just tips that twitch gets a cut of instead of PayPal which makes sense seeing as how twitch is the only reason those people are able to make a living playing games anyway
>>343058713
>w00t!
>GG!
>Whoa! OMG OMG! This chat is the best!! You rule!!!!
Nobody talks like this.
>>343067548
>he doesn't know
>>343067548
it sadly does, followed by the kappa emote because its so funny to spam for the hundredth time
>>343067339
>It's not fun watching someone play a medicore game while desperately trying to be funny when you could watch a (well) scriped and (well) edited 20 minute video instead and then hop to the next one.
You miss the point of Twitch.
The reason why streamers are so popular there is because they interact with their audience. Kids and teenagers get to 'talk' to their favourite streamers and pretend that they are their friends, which is something you can't replicate in pre-recorded Youtube videos. Youtube may make more money in the long run, but livestreaming will always be profitable for a certain group.
Do you ever watch Summit1G or Lirik's streams? They get hundreds of donations a day with messages like
>My dog died and I had a shitty day. Glad you're here to cheer me up!
>Don't feel bad man, you're my hero. Have this $50 and keep entertaining thousands of people!
>Hey I'm gonna be in your city next week. Wanna hang out for a bit? I'd love that so much!
Like, these kids literally think streamers are their friends and these streamers act friendly with terms like 'bro' just to keep the donations rolling in.
>>343067716
I wonder if those are really kids and not just lonely nerds looking for social interaction.
Either way, they seem to do a good job in exploiting these retards.
>>343067850
I remember reading an article somewhere saying the average age on Twitch was higher than Youtube, so probably lonely teenagers and young adults like you and me.
>Either way, they seem to do a good job in exploiting these retards.
Do they ever. They always act like they're your friend, but most of them have submode on 24/7 so that you can't even talk to them if you don't subscribe. Some people like Lirik literally don't even respond to chat except to get game tips or insult you, so you have to donate for them to respond. I remember the other month seeing someone donate to Lirik going
>My dad died yesterday from cancer, I don't know what I'd do without you
So Lirik says some generic shit like "my condolences man cheer up". Then the guy donates another $50 just because Lirik acted nice to him.
It's fucking disgusting.
>>343067440
>having 2 waifus
is streaming the most cancerous thing to happen to the game industry since horse armor DLC?
>>343066136
Did he recover from his addiction? I've been out of twitch for a while now.
>>343058713
>>I'd genuinely like to stream on twitch but 4 things stop me.
>Fear of no viewers
That's literally something you have to deal with regardless of the site you're on. You just play for a couple months and slowly amass a userbase, or you do it as a side thing tied to a Youtube account and hope both take off and people like what you do, hell, you can even advertise yourself to
>Hatred of the whole concept of making money from it
So do it on the side. Who in the world is saying you have to play 24/7 and make it your job when you can easily just stream whatever you're playing whenever you normally play and play it like you normally do anyway, you just have to be at least active a couple times a week for a decent amount of time to make anything out of it if you actually plan to have any sort of viewerbase.
>Boob Streamers
How does this affect you? No seriously, how does this affect you? No one is forcing you to watch Tits McGee and her nipples of erection if you don't want to.
>Time
Again, if you want a viewerbase or any money in the slightest this is something you have to deal with. You can stream whenever you want, a bunch of speedrunners do this for example and very few have actual set schedules, but they rack in several hundred people most of the time.
and if you hate the way chats become cancerous you literally have power at your hands to quell all that kind of discussion if you want. The only time you become a meme chat is if you let it become a meme chat. You can even globally disable emotes if you want so you don't have to see shit like EleGiggle, FrankerZ, or Kappa unless you want to.
>>343067354
>if you complain about something you're as bad as them
what.
god forbid we have discussion about something you can't even handle, you baby, you can hide threads you know.
>>343067214
>For some reason it has become flavor of the month to be as super progressive as possible
It is difficult for me to figure this out. I suppose the highly active banning of dissenting views and general curation of opinion has created a warped social dynamic. The normal person really cannot post anymore in this environment. I think it may have become a "progressive arms race", where people support/endorse these opinions in an attempt to gain social standing on the forum, mixed with a healthy number of cult-like individuals that the environment has selected to be able to post a lot.
>It's fucking stupid, it's painful to read anything anyone posts there anymore.
That's what broke the habit for me. Going there was physically taxing.
The only twitch channel I watch regularly is a tournament player that primarily interacts with viewers by answering mechanics questions and talking through the meta when people ask, but otherwise talks about what choices he's making in the game and why. Watching his stream is like getting a clinic in how to play the game competitively.
I remember when there were more streamers on twitch like this, but his viewer numbers are dwarfed by boobystreamers and loudmouths.
>>343068667
Also the forum is heavily biased against people who hold certain values. It is very antagonistic against people who highly prize accuracy and honesty.
>>343067716
>The reason why streamers are so popular there is because they interact with their audience.
This isn't entirely true and has already been subject of various studies. It's not the actual interaction, it's the sense of affirmation and belonging users seek.
Human beings seek social approval and in current times this comes in the form of digital interaction in chats or in forums with upvotes or someone commenting on one's views positively.
The issue with thoes mediums is the cognitive disconnect you experience when reading - it's not the same as hearing a human voice and seeing a human face addressing you directly. On a side-note, this approval-seeking is also why encouragement in the workplace is essential to enhance productivity, loyality and mental stability/health of employees.
You are correct in assessing that people donating to streams to get attention essentially buy affection and approval, in particularly approval in front of a crowd that they couldn't convince by themselves but often it comes with the downside of quickly realizing that it's shortlived and empty/vain, enhancing feeling of depression and loneliness when not being mentioned on a stream, in particulalry for kids. This is similar to rich kids in real life buying "friendship" - it has detrimental effects that make it a bad idea in the long run.
This builds or rather enhances social pressue within (young) people and stands in stark contrast to watching an enjoyable, good spirited narrative of someone playing (seemingly) happily along on Youtube.
This will in the long run lead to more people trying, for lack of a better expression, to get their heart mended by sources outside of twitch - such as Youtube or other gaming communities.
>twitch is more about making money for lazy shits that don't want to 9 to 5 than it is about video games
>>343069010
>This will in the long run lead to more people trying, for lack of a better expression, to get their heart mended by sources outside of twitch - such as Youtube or other gaming communities.
I disagree. As you said Youtube cannot replace the fundamental desire of approval that Twitch and its communities/streamers can give. Youtube is an isolated experience that you can only enjoy with friends or sharing the videos through social media - this means nothing if you are already lacking in friends or people who will read your tweets/posts/whatever.
Perhaps as people grow up they'll move away from Twitch into healthier alternatives, but Youtube won't be a replacement nor would it even compete with what Twitch offers.
>>343067339
>It's not fun watching someone play a medicore game while desperately trying to be funny
sounds like game grumps, one of the most popular channels.
>>343058713
>Can someone tell me how did youtube gaming fail?
Kappa
>>343064396
>I don't consider that valid for this "line of "work""
If you've never experienced what he's saying then you won't really understand it so I'll try and explain it.
Imagine you have loads and loads of free time starting now. Your first handful of weeks are bliss, it's the same feeling you have when you take a week with vacation days or you get a reasonable length of time off just for yourself and you end up doing what you want for fun. You binge on everything you've missed, you catch up on your games and shows though you still have many things to clear. So now comes let's say week eight of this, you're not allowed to go outside that often because that would take you away from the games.
You've got several games you want to play but don't really want to play on your backlog, you've played through most of the games you didn't manage to due to lack of time that you really wanted to. Now, while you're feeling like you just don't want to play video games anymore I'm going to tell you you have to pick a game out of that backlog and play it whether you like it or not. Now do it again and again and again and again. Then you get a single new game every once in a blue moon but you can't force yourself to actually play it because you are just mentally drained from playing the last 10 games to completion in such a short timespan. Now imagine it's your job to play these video games and act like you're having fun doing it.
TL;DR - Look at your huge list of Steam games, look at your backlog, now try and force yourself to play games from your backlog in that Steam list when you want to play literally anything else but that backlog game.
Alternatively, go pirate a bunch of games, choose one that you kind of want to play but don't really and beat it completely without dropping it. It's that feeling you get where you're two hours in and you want to die because you have so many games you want to play but you don't want to play them at the same time.
>>343067354
>ROFL
>>343070143
You don't even need this long explanation.
Anyone who has turned their hobby into an 8-5 job would know why it's draining.
>>343068667
Pretty much. I really don't care if you make a game with a white, black, asian, gay, whatever character as long as you do it right and it doesn't feel like you are pandering to a certain group because "IT'S 2016 AND WE NEED TO BE PROGRESSIVE." It becomes cheap and it throws me out of the game world the devs have created because CEO Bob was told by shareholders he needs to be more inclusive, and has he "seen the news lately"?
The only thing I miss are the sub-communities where the garbage posters stay. The Steam community and others weren't bad, and people actually had normal discussions as mods usually stay out of them.
>>343068076
True but I'll take that risk.
Is talking to other streamers a good way to get followers?Because I feel it would just end up being "hey man check me out sometime" or "follow for follow?"
>>343070651
Typo: Where the garbage posters stay away from.
What the shit does this actually do? Is it the virtual equivalent of throwing coins into a street performer's hat?
>>343070535
Yeah, but he just outright didn't get what mental fatigue was like and how it wasn't a valid excuse when it's most certainly a valid excuse. I'm not a streamer nor a NEET but I have loads of free time due to certain circumstances and the last thing I want to do is play games from my backlog or even watch shows from my backlog. I'm lucky if I watch an episode of anything I like every week or two or play a game properly every week.
Streamers have it way worse than this since they have to actually do it or they don't get to eat, you basically just make yourself hate what you love but force yourself to do it anyway.
Instead of nonstop complaining, let's list off some Good streams, shall we? I'm talking about channels that respect the viewer and aren't just 20-something whores begging for money
Dansgaming
Manvsgame
Crumps
Lethalfrag
Lirik
Summit
You can thank me later
>>343070805
you know tipping that myfreecam and other similar sites have. its just that. twitch decided they were missing out on all the money donations via paypal
>>343070805
it's basically twitch taking a cut of donations. that's it. they disguise it under the "hurrr let's spread cheer to our casters".
they're only thinking about the casters and themselves. little to no benefit for the viewers.
>>343070805
Basically, instead of donating to the streamer's paypall, which Twitch gets no cut off, now you can donate using this, so Twitch gets a percentage of it. Which means that soon they'll ban direct donations
Spamfish is the only guy I watch but his constant soccer rants are getting a bit tiresome. How long is this euro soccer tournament gonna last??
>>343071026
So it IS throwing virtual money at people, where Twitch is a guy who runs between the crowd and the entertainer trying to catch the coins.
>>343070941
beaglerush
la_li_lu_le_lo
>>343070913
Don't forget some streamers are basically forced into playing only certain games or else they don't get viewers. Trihex basically gets no viewers if he doesn't stream Mario Maker for instance.
>>343066620
This. What the fuck happened to dan? He used to be based, edgy but didn't care. Now all he does is spout shitty trump jokes and sellout to terrible game companies. He's also gotten fat as fuck and doesn't seem to understand the basic rules of calories in/out.
I was subbed to him for almost 2 years, before I turned into his stream and asked myself, what the fuck did I find entertaining about this guy. So sad.
>>343070651
Pandering is pretty dishonest, and it becomes more about forcing a view or wanking off a group of people. Ironically in this situation the gay/trans/whatever character in question is just used as a disposable tool to accomplish this which is very "unprogressive"
I had noticed that sub-communities were better as well. My idea is that the barrier to entry (you generally have to play the fucking game) helps keep dumbasses out. The main forum is too easy. You can just read kotaku, post nonsense, and never touch a game. Frankly I doubt many of these people do, they're just in it for the political gaming commentary.
>>343071238
more like twitch twitch runs the performance venue and takes a cut because they are providing the means for the entertainer to perform.
>>343058713
This would be a good feature if Twitch didn't take a 30% cut.
Just like subscriptions where they take a 50% cut. Fucking mega jews, that's the kind of rake even loansharks would scoff at.
>>343071704
At least some of them get used to it or treat it as "That thing you have to do" and separate it from actually enjoying stuff, or they find the little things they enjoy. Clintstevens is an example, he plays(Or played) OoT for months day after day and it didn't drive him mad, he just said he hated and liked certain parts and then the stuff at the end of his stream was to unwind.
But yeah, that fatigue is absolutely brutal, especially since it's extremely hard to shake outside of just going cold turkey on everything you love for a couple months.
>>343071768
>What the fuck happened to dan?
Money, dude. Him joining that n3dfusion deal was the catalyst to his change. Compare the last 2 horror months, this last one was about getting as many subs as possible, with him locking chat when live, while the previous one was about fun.
>>343072060
>tfw I fell for the "I will always play games for fun" meme
The only type of stream that gets viewers without trying is titty streamers.
If you want views as a guy or a girl who isn't camwhoring, you need to be actually good at a video game, that game has to be popular AND you have to have an amicable personality.
>>343071768
It's called money.
Most of the really popular streamers you see right now, they started off meager and humble, probably back on Justintv. They understood how to build a community of fellow gamers that just wanted to hang out, talk, and check out the newest games together. Back then, it was much simpler -- you streamed for the fun of it. Even with jtv's partnership program, all you got was piddly ad revenue. But when people started to become ok with direct donations, that's when it all changed. Guys who were once average joe nerds began to transform into celebrities, sometimes very quickly. Money and fame can change one's personality, fast. This applies to Dan, to Lirik, to MvG, to pretty much everyone on the top. He will never, and I repeat NEVER, return to the way he was before, so you may as well jump ship now and find a new person to watch.
Twitch is all about money now, for those streamers. That is all. You aren't their friend, you are a source of income. Just another number in their thousands of viewers. You are completely replaceable and he won't think twice about it. Either join the echo chamber, or get banned.
>>343072234
> tfw I can't even have fun with games anymore
i used to enjoy streaming and games but that died a few years ago
>>343072006
The end goal for every streamer (imo) is to be able to stream whatever game you want and still draw in your regular crowd. People like Lirik who can play anything and still get $$$ have it easier since it's harder to for them to get burned out. When you're stuck playing Mario Maker for months on end though, you'd probably want to kill yourself.
>>343072060
>with him locking chat when live,
I tend to notice that only the most pretentious streamers force sub-only mode instead of just using slow-mode. Sad to see Dan fall so low. Seems like it was only yesterday when I was watching his 2013 Halloween month.
>>343072448
Personally even if I have a variety of games to play I still get burned out constantly. My way of doing stuff for the past 10 years or so is literally to binge a game for like a week and do nothing video game related outside of like shitty casual games to pass the time for the three weeks after. I just can't juggle all the games and absorb them or have fun with them man, I don't see how others do it.
>>343064553
I've never understood what made the really popular streamers popular to begin with. Is it just longevity?
When I see a stream, if ever, they seem rather plain and uninteresting. Makes me wonder why people keep donating to them.
>>343072448
It's pretty unbelievable that Lirik gets 30k viewers no matter which piece of shit game he streams. I've never understood what his appeal is. Have watched him a couple of time recently and I just find him dry. I guess the age group of his subs is closer to 14-16 or something.
>>343072656
I'm the same way. I've tried many times to actively play multiple games. I have friends who just jump in and out of many games, including mmos and shooters etc, meanwhile I can't keep myself interested in more than one game at a time.
>>343062904
It's basically guaranteed because the bits are nonrefundable because they're too many memesters who donate $1000+ to see the streamer flip out and then they revoke it minutes later saying "it was a mistake" or "lol i troll u"Also Twitch is a business, and a business' goal is to make profits.
>>343070941
Are you 15?
>>343072867
Actually he mentioned on his stream previously that the avg age was in the early 20's. I also think the appeal of him is he is like a normal nerdy dude you would chill with, I can see the appeal, but I guess he is too big to fail at this point - barring he doesn't do anything ridiculous retarded. I mean the dude makes $400,000 after taxes, he is set for life even if Twitch somehow falls through.
>>343064204
>complaiing about gigabit speeds, unlimited data caps for $70/month
Maybe if I was from Singapore, but Google Fiber kicks the shit outta every American ISP bar none. Too bad it's gonna take till 2030 for them to finally expand outside of 3 places in Middle America.
>>343071704
witwix is smart about it, plays a few hours of mario maker then switches games and keeps a good majority of the viewers.
Tfw only watch one streamer.
>>343070941
>Lirik
Yeah, thanks for recommending shit.
>>343072850
Consistency (as in streaming 5-6 days a week at very specific timeframes) + Being friendly to lonely dweebs with loads of disposable income + Making viewers feel like special snowflakes with sub and donation notifications.
>>343071974
>turbo
>subs
>advertisements
they already take cuts. why donations? what's to stop them from saying, "hey streamer. if you want to stream here, you must use bits. we will take a 30% cut (which can be changed) no matter what. why? because we have no competition and fuck you."
you're literally endorsing bad shitty behavior for no reason.
>>343070941
Admiral_Bahroo
Richard_Hammer
witwix
>>343073395
How does donating to somebody make you feel special?
>>343073546
you get your name called out in front of thousands of people!
isnt that nice?
>>343063849
>>343063849
You do know theres a thing called mental exhaustion, right?
>>343073209
>400k for acting like a retard every day
he even went to college. kek. hard to believe people give him money for being treated like dirt. he gives nothing at all back.
>>343073546
you'd be surprised how easily amused the chat is, you get spam stale maymays and the chat goes nuts
>>343058713
Duh, because streaming pages weren't set up to automatically redirect you from "www" to "gaming". Huge mistake.
>>343073540
>Richard_Hammer
Based
>>343073217
they won't. it has a lot more to do with already established fiber lines in cities. the companies that own them won't give them up, and due to contracts with the city, Google will not be allowed to lay their own fiber.
there's a lot more at work than what you think.
>>343062763
>android
>youtube
>gmail
>all failures
wew lad, you are a thick cunt, aren't you?
>tfw just use livestreamer to watch streams on MPC-HC and have nothing to do with the cancerous chat or the site's cancerous layout
>>343073650
So you feel special for like what, 5 seconds? At the cost of a few dollars? Huh, at first I was confused to how that works but now it kind of makes sense.
You pay a small fee to feel socially affirmed for a few seconds.
>>343073737
So one could just simply play games in front of the camera and occasionally post memes and be pretty successful then?
>>343058713
>I'd genuinely like to stream on twitch but 4 things stop me.
Stop being a fag about it. You don't have to use any of the gay shit that sucks about Twitch. I stream shit from my backlog on there every now and then and have a great time shooting the shit with IRL friends or a few regulars who drop by. You don't have to chase the most popular flavor of the month games or pander for subs, if it's something you'd enjoy, why not?
I always seem to be alone in thinking that emoticons lower the intelligence of a chat. Why don't people want pure text like IRC? Where it requires actual effort to express yourself.
It's exactly like the "dumbing down" we see in video games, except this time it's socializing itself that has been "dumbed down".
I've literally never seen someone agree with me on this. I might be old and out of the target demographic.
(It's not just twitch chat, I think twitter got some new emoticons recently too.)
>>343061405
It's donations with Twitch taking a bigger chunk than normal donations, but streamers being forced to shill for it or have their accounts cancelled.
>>343073816
they bought android and youtube from third party
>>343062763
He says while posting from chrome on his android phone with notifications from Gmail about YouTube popping up.
>>343073865
>So one could just simply play games in front of the camera and occasionally post memes and be pretty successful then?
works for a certain diablo 2 speedrunner, he has no actually skill but apart from saying hype every sentence he'll throw on a shitty maymay song that gets the chat going. he gets 1k viewers unlike a decent runner who might get a couple hundred
>>343067548
>Nobody talks like this
I wish I was part of your world, cause it sounds like bliss.
>>343070941
nl_kripp
themexicanrunner
trihex
>>343073934
Are we pretending now that YouTube worked well before Google took over?
Are we also ignoring that even if they had no other products, Google.com is a technology that all of society runs on?
>>343074009
You work for a streamer? How does that work? He pays you to do stuff for him?
>>343062763
>They didn't become huge by making quality, but quantity.
no they game huge because of 2 reasons
product marketing, by making the word google a household name and synonymous with a search engine and capitalising on the .com boom of the 90's.
now they are a mega corp with only god knows what powers they hold over the average person, all around the world.
also
>>343058713
>I'd genuinely like to stream on twitch
>watching people play vidya instead of playing vidya
Op is a tried and true tested faggot
>>343074038
>kripp
>trihex
lol yeah no. both have been corrupted by the twitch ez money machine. trihex even has a qt3.14 gf now thanks to it all, and she sure as shit uses him to boost her own stream.
>>343074114
you're a goose
>>343073907
If you're looking in Twitch chat for intelligent conversation you're doing things wrong. Twitch isn't some gentleman's club with cigars and whiskey, it's where bored teenagers go to yell at other bored teenagers
>>343070941
>Lirik
>Summit
Seriously?
>>343074202
So you don't get paid to work for the streamer then, you just do it for free? What the hell
Anything that takes money away from JEWGLE is a good thing.
So it's not worth it to post LPs on Youtube, just stream your gameplay on Twitch?
>>343070941
>Summit
>Good
1. Fuck You.
2. Pic Related
also, i don't understand how Summit got big in the first place. He's like the most plain, vanilla, while bread motherfucker on the website but he averages 9,000 viewers every time he streams and gets $500 in donations on average per day. I still think the guy viewbotted his own stream until at least 75% of those numbers became genuine.
>>343067123
They are all in the group of people that sucks twitch's cock the most.
>>343074194
You know any good places where I can keep up with the compilation of Twitch drama?
It's fucking hilarious.
>>343070941
>Implying anyone whose viewers willing to advertise the stream with /v/ could be anything but pure cancer
>>343074038
>kripp
old kripp maybe, he's sold out now
>>343058713
>Fucking chat tokens
Damn, Twitch is slowly turning into a softcore Chaturbate.
>>343058713
>toxic
Just fucking end your life.
>>343074274
Yeah, sounds like I'm getting old.
>>343070941
>Summit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBT9Kyec1WA
The only people complaining about this are the ones that haven't figured out how to market themselves on Twitch.
Don't be mad because you're oblivious to how the world works.
>>343074441
Younger viewers (90% of Twitch) probably likes him because he's just an older version of them: sad little manlet bro with a flatbill.
>>343058713
>Can someone tell me how did youtube gaming fail?
Because life isn't fair
>10x the bitrate
>Live DVR for pause/rewind
>HTML5 front and backend
Fuck twitch, youtube was better right from day one but twitch faggots didn't want to give up their kappas.
>>343074194
who the hell cares
trihex's stream is good
so is kripp's, i like watching hearthstone
>>343063470
just like with normal camwhore sites or any f2p game/site it's for tax/legal reasons. if you buy tokens that are then used for tips/gamble boxes it's not considered real gambling/prostitutions since you're technically not spending real money on your gamble box/private session.
>>343074413
He says, while posting on 4chan using Google's captcha system.
>>343068323
He's not high most of the time but every few weeks I can tell he took a pill and is high
asd
>>343071979
they are competing against sex streaming sites which take 50 percent and over.
I'm retarded, someone explain how this shit works
>>343063470
People are willing to spend what appears to be imaginary internet currency more than their own money. It's why Microsoft had Microsoft Points for like ten years. They knew listing something like DLC as 800 MSPs looked better than $15.00.
Yes, people are that dumb.
>>343058713
Who cares? Only faggots stream and make videos anyway, regardless of platform.
>>343070941
you have terrible taste amigo, dansgaming is alright though
>>343074985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qNhECeenmE
>>343061914
So I guess the whole "rules" against camwhores are invalid now, this is just Chaturbate tokens designed specifically for the camsluts of twitch.
>>343063923
Google mostly fail in their social endeavors like google plus or orkut etc.
This can be attributed to their two owners being engineers, when Facebook was in infancy they couldn't understand the concept of chatting with friends as they gave work much more importance.
They failed gaming.YouTube as they never thought this will grow up so big.
Tldr; Google's made up of autists never expect social innovations from them.
Only expect amazing engineering innovations like AIs, android, driverless cars etc. from them.
>>343070941
GL_MrQuaRate
>>343074985
you buy fags, twitch currency; then in chat of partners you can type faggot[number], where [number] is how much fags you want to give to streamer.
The program is now in beta, so only invited partners are in program, but they want to extend it to all of partners.
Simply put, twitch wanted cut of dontations
>They add a chat badge for giving 100,000 bits
>It costs $308 for 25,000 bits
GOOD GOY, EARN THAT BADGE
>>343075256
Why does the streamer want them? Can the streamer convert it into cash or something?
>>343061914
I remember back when the internet was still considered "geek territory" normalfags watched TV shows with a chat and some kind of shitty host. Writing messages into the chat using text messaging cost $1/message and I thought that was fucking ridiculous and what kind of an idiot would pay a dollar for just one line of text.
And now it's apparently normal to drop dozens if not hundreds of dollars on some rotating polygons.
>>343058713
Failure of advertising? I hardly knew that Youtube Gaming existed. There doesn't seem to be any way to access it from the normal Youtube homepage or anything
>>343075339
yes
>>343075339
yes, they can. but twitch takes ~30% cut
>>343075339
Yes, but in the current status quo Streamers drop a paypal lnik and keep like 99% of the donation money (minus Paypals small cut)
With this new system, Twitch will shave off a good 25%+ off the money for themselves, they take 50% of subscription money.
This is just a ploy to get their fingers into donations now.
>>343075345
>And now it's apparently normal to drop dozens if not hundreds of dollars on some rotating polygons
You mean like video gamesl, that people have been buying since Pong?
>>343075010
>thing you want is $12 in fake money
>can only get $10/$25/$60 increments
retards will defend this saying now they have extra for if they want something else, not realizing they'll always have a lingering extra balance they can't spend.
>Now in addition to "HAY BUTTDOCTOR82 THANKS FOR SUBSCRIBING I REALLY APPRECIATE IT" you can hear "THANKS FOR THE BITS RUMPLORD_ :-)"
What the fuck is wrong with people?
>>343073540
>witwix
what's it like being a faggot cuck
>>343075509
What the fuck are you talking about? Since when are these video games?
>>343075010
No that's stupid, its so people will have to buy more cards of imaginary points when they're something like $2 short
>oh I only have 500 points and this costs 800
>what are my options
>oh I can only buy $5, 10 or 25
>>343073540
Speaking of Bahroo, how the fuck did KingGothalion end up in the Bits beta but Bashroo didn't?
Gothalion is literally just a low budget Bahroo, both hit it big with a shitload of Borderlands play, switched off into other similar loot shooters like Destiny and are both sort of just drifting until the next release in the genre.
>>343073217
>Houston will never have established fiber lines because it's basically a swamp and the ground is ridiculously unstable
Just end my life.
>>343075597
I just interpret it as thing I want is now $25, it's probably not worth that much so I just don't buy it.
>>343058713
It was first.
It's a long-running well-established fact in the tech industry that being first is more important then being good.
>>343075906
who the fucks now, i remember that he was skeptical about it in richard_hammer chat, saying: 'it's basically twitch taking a cut from streamers donations'
>>343075806
Video games are polygons, moron.
You just said that it's, "apparently normal to drop dozens if not hundreds of dollars on some rotating polygons".
You just described every game ever created. If you hate these, then you hate every video game.
>Twitch takes 30%
>Paypal takes 2.9% + $0.30
2.9% vs 30%
What a fucking joke. But they're paying streamers to endorse it so dumb kids will buy into it.
>>343075318
ONE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED THIRTY TWO UNITED STATES DOLLARS TO GET A CHAT BADGE.
>>343076148
Oh I see, you are just pretending to be retarded.
>>343076287
Tell me right here, right now that video games aren't polygons.
You can't because THEY FUCKING ARE.
>>343076016
have fun not being able to play multiplayer since every server is using those new maps now.
>>343076148
If you like chocolate you also like shit because both are brown.
>>343076191
Ellohimo or w/e his name is said that bits give him more money because paypal takes like 34% most of the time unless the donation amount is high then they take less
but yeah hes basically shilling because he was on of the first ones to get to test it out.
twitch just wanted to tap into the free revenue
>>343061914
>12% discount
fucking bought instantly
youtube gaming didn't even try to compete. They just released it and did nothing else.
They didn't try to contact popular streamers to stream for them, they didn't market themselves AT ALL.
>>343076328
Count me the polygons in this video game, nerd
>>343076402
That doesn't relate in any way.
He suggested that it's absurd for people to pay for rotating polygons, which is exactly what video games are.
>>343062595
Twitch takes a cut instead of paypal
and most streamers don't even read the bit messages
so you are basically double cucking yourself
>>343076438
>because paypal takes like 34% most of the time unless the donation amount is high
Buuuuuuuuuuullshit, don't listen to the twitch goy.
I used to make custom painted guitar picks and my average paypal payment was between $2-5 and it was a 2.9% cut
>watching people play video games
>paying money so that some lardass who plays videogames for a living might notice your comment in the chat
>>343058713
Nobody gives a shit about video games during streams, what matters is your irl stories while you pretend the crowd is close a friend of yours or you being a girl and do the same but also showing off.
>>343076519
No, the emotes are rotating polygons, video games have polygons just as one of the building blocks.
I mean saying you hate video games if you hate paying for getting to see a few polygons is like saying you must hate a luxury meal if you hate paying $60 for one grain of rice.
>>343067548
it's exactly like this in submode-only streams
>>343074441
> I still think the guy viewbotted his own stream until at least 75% of those numbers became genuine.
That's what every streamer does nowadays, I'm not even kidding.
BeyondTheSummit did a stream yesterday with over 4k people watching, the chat was COMPLETELY dead except for people asking what's happening and then talking about bots. Even the "big" streamers are using a lots and lots of bots still.
>>343076567
Yeah i know paypal takes 30 cents off the dollar and then a down scalling percentage depending on how high the donation is
i was just repeating what he says
>>343076438
>because paypal takes like 34% most of the time
But that's bullshit. It's 2.9% for everything, that's how Paypal has always worked. Paypal isn't some scummy donation service, they charge the same rake for everything.
The only thing that might take an additional rake is Twitch Alerts, but there's no way that's 27% or no one would use it.
I hope these shortsighted retards got paid enough by Twitch to offset how much they're going to lose on the rake. Protip: they won't.
>>343058713
Don't pornographic camwhore sites work like that?
how did Trump get popular? he's like the most boring autist I've ever seen
>>343076959
I know, what were they thinking?
>>343070941
http://speedrun.tv/
here you go
>>343076328
Okay show me gameplay mechanics, story, music and 2D art in polygon form. I'm waiting.
It sucks that you can't stream something popular because you'll just get pushed to the bottom of matter how good or entertaining you are because 3 popular guys are playing the same thing.
>>343058713
The upcoming "conversation" will be hilarious
>H-hey guys, even though you don't have to donate, but if you do it in the form of donations and not cheering, this way is, emm, m-more fun! Yaaay!
>>343076959
That's basically what Twitch is. The top 1% streamers are all pros and old personalities but the meat and potatoes are all titty streamers.
>>343070941
None of them are good. Hell, none of "popular" streamers are good, with the exception of actually high skill players. None of the listed are high skill players
>>343058713
I want Own3d.tv to come back
>>343076948
>Paypal isn't some scummy donation service, they charge the same rake for everything.
In fact this is one of the reasons they've stayed so damn successful, they don't jew low earners, and they don't go crazy jew on massive earners.
>>343058713
>>343061914
I can't wait for streamers to have in their homepage a "menu" of stuff they will do if donated x bits.
If that hasn't happened already.
>>343077249
They were just as bad. They closed because they were getting sued over how much money they owed to streamers.
>>343064840
This is the biggest problem. It will further eliminate smaller, niche streamers. Just like youtube, big get bigger, small have no chance to get big
>>343076191
and you buy the bits from twitch anyway, lmao
>>343062769
That's a lich you dumbass.
>>343077249
its new form is called hitbox
Why are 90% of top streamers such boring sacks of shit? Was it luck?
I tune into Lirik and hes monotone as fuck and has terrible 14-year-old-like banter. But like 30 thousand people sit and eat that shit up. How did these people get to be so successful?
>>343074086
>Are we pretending now that YouTube worked well before Google took over?
Are we pretending it didn't?
>>343058713
you should kill yourself
you'll definitely fail because of the matriarchy even if you did try. pfft, go be a 13 year old romanian somewhere else.
>>343061914
Twitch want's that sweet sweet mom's credit card money.
>>343077307
good number of streamers have a whiteboard where they write up the latest/highest donator's handle and doodle hearts and shit around it, often taking requests like say x or give them multiplayer invites.
>>343058713
I don't understand why people have such a hateboner for Twitch. I understand that people treat it more like watching a trained animal at the zoo, but I just like watching video games played by someone fairly competent when I don't feel like playing myself, or when I just can't.
Yeah, features like this are jewish as fuck but who cares? Paying is rarely mandatory.
>>343077416
All of the "personality" and "variety" streams are shit. Every single one. If you want an ounce of integrity, look at speedrunners and some pros.
>>343062595
The business of fake currency isn't new, people feel more relieved with themselves when they buy shit with monopoly money instead of thinking "fuck I just spent 3 bucks to unlock this useless thing on a videogame".
The fact real money equals to 10 times the fake currency is part of the strategy too, so it feels you're buying a lot while you're not.
>>343077652
>If you want an ounce of integrity, look at speedrunners
>>343076191
the thing i hate about it is the lack of transparency.
they don't state how much streamers get. they likely all get different contracts. some may get more, some less, which is fucked in itself.
secondly, it makes spending money easier without seeing what you get. it brings down the quality of streams because now in addition to subs and regular donations, they have to callout bit donations now too.
thirdly, what's to stop twitch from implementing a "you must have X bits to chat" type of thing? they have no competition.
overall, the only people who benefit are streamers and twitch. viewers get fucked.
>>343077416
It's just part of the Three P's of top streamers. Personality, Professional, Pussy. One of these is the reason anyone makes it big on twitch.
The ones that make it on personality are often really shit, because their personality that draws tends to be the type that is popular among youtube teens, ie PewDiePie or Markiplier type.
If you want enter entertainment, go for the professional side, either competitive or top speedrunners, they tend to be the far more generally entertaining streamers because their streaming isn't just about their personality being the main entertainment, their high level gameplay is the main draw.
>>343077446
It didn't and it's still doesn't. It was pretty good for a few years until google decided that it wants to give everyone a partnered status. With that CPM plummeted down and everly increasing rules over copyrighted content only makes it worse for small producers to make money. Google is also displeased because they want to challenge hollywood and big TV companies with YT to get even more ad revenue from bigger companies, but they simply can't encourage actual good content outside of gaming.
>>343077630
>>paying is rarely mandatory
>this stream has gone into subscriber mode, subscribe now to keep viewing or give 1000 cheers for a peak at the action.
HOLY SHIT twitch literally copied what sex webcam sites have done for TEN YEARS NOW
THIS IS FUCKING VIDEO GAMES?!
>>343062595
It's basically Twitch going full-out Jew.
>>343077880
Not the ones who converted to variety streaming, Mario Maker or became a tranny when they got burned out. Except Witwix, he's okay.
The actual speedrunners.
>>343077020
there are some people which are popular because they are good at certain online games, although being good at hearthstone isn't impressing and other ones which are "entertaining"
>>343077652
>speedrunners
mario maker players*
>>343077652
>If you want an ounce of integrity, look at speedrunners
Zaheer is a good example that even speedrunners don't have integrity. The guy goes from being fun to watch for months to BUY MY SHIRTS YOU WANT SHIRTS MY FRIEND HAVE MORE SHIRTS LET ME SELL OUT HAHA I'M NOT SELLING OUT BUT IF YOU BUY MY SHIRT I'LL BE GOOD THAT'S SOME GOOD SHIT.
>>343058713
The fear of no viewers thing is something you'll just have to get over, or just make click bait titles, or be active in the community and be a meme spouter like gayfetus so people will recognize you, you don't have to put the subscribe option on so you don't have to get money, put oranges under your shirt.
>>343077020
At least he can back his plays up with actual meta-knowledge instead of just playing and hoping everyone will like you if you just keep going.
>twitch is now chaturbate
I'm actually surprised it took this long.
>>343058713
>lonely people spam emotes, memes and other shit en-masse in the slim chance the streamer might notice them and acknowledge them on air
twitch, streaming in general and their chats fucking terrify me
>>343076148
There are no polygons in 2D pixel video games, you retarded summerfag. Also, what does that even have to do with giving fucking chat tokens to a streamer?
>>343078896
But how many bits did he get for that?
>>343078417
It all depends on the person. Some of them like Witxwix and Clint will always be chill even though they converted. Some of them will never bitch out like zfg.
Others went full retard attention whore like Cosmo.
>>343078974
500 LUL
>>343078321
so the content is not enough?
>>343078321
what exactly do we get back aside from a spam-filled chat, less gaming content, and shady greedy twitch streamer?
>>343075806
>even has the star of David
You can't make this up
>>343079203
If it's a titty streamer they probably lean into the camera. The camera which is taking up 90% of the stream while the game is taking up 10%.
>Twitch is becoming a softcore camsite
>>343079203
>>343079332
you get a new badge next to your name in chat that shows how many shekels you've spent on a stream.
>>343079502
But they still won't bring back jtv
>>343079502
>becoming
>>343078619
>>343079502
it's been like this forever, now it's just official with twitch taking a cut.
>>343078321
What exactly do the people get in return again?
>>343061541
You talking about Google Glass?
>>343074487
They're actually the streamers with the most consistently large audience.
The only people missing are the people who said no, or actively avoid donations.
>>343077945
I thought you implied it didn't work well BEFORE google. My english must be worse than I thought.
>>343060876
youtube gaming still better because you can go back if you missed something, twitch you cant which is super gay
its easier to get viewers on ytg than it is on twitch though
>>343066586
>>343066431
This is basically me, giant afro and all. I've gone kinda deep though, playing vaporwave and 70's Japanese folk music and shit. I don't have anime all over my stream though.
Really I just like the chat interaction. Having 25 people watching me without talking is nuts, man.
Know what, I'm about to go stream DOOM.
>>343080216
>not streaming and archiving your shit on YouTube
What are you doing?
>>343080156
And why was sodapoppin not asked?
He consistently gets more viewers than most of the people on the list, but he isn't as much of a cuck as the rest of them so he doesn't get to take part in the beta.
>>343067440
Son, what's your Twitch? Wanna run a joint stream or something where we play fighting games and shit?
>>343062231
>>343062237
>>343062720
you just know some faggot out there would actually do this
>>343067850
It's pretty much both cases, I guess. I know of a Pokemon streamer where his chat is mostly just younger kids watching, donating and interacting with him on stream.
>>343077949
Participating in chat is only a fraction of the experience.
Most of the time the chat moves too quickly for any meaningful discussion anyway.
>>343077416
>14 year old banter
Who do you think watches these people?
>>343080227what's your twitch name
>>343058713
>Stream game on Youtube
>Content ID catches a liscenced song from the game
>Get a strike automatically
This is why I don't use Youtube.
>>343068667
I honestly wonder how long Neogaf can keep up being so insular and intolerant of dissent before it dies, since forums aren't exactly popular anymore to begin with.
It's really a shame that the big forums like it and SA are now SJW overmoderated hellholes, since their format is still way better for actually discussing any kind of niche game then social media will ever be
>>343064621
Id rather give 100 dollars to a streamer I like with a message rather than some coins that twitch takes 30% of and the streamer only gets 70. This is a really jewy thing for twitch to do. Dont do it and hopefully theyll remove this stupid feature
>>343061914
12% DISCOUNT GUYS! BETTER BUY THAT 25k BITS FOR THAT SWEET SAVING
>>343080716
>12% discount
>still a 23% fee
>>343080474
If >>343067440 is still here, I'm >>343080227 as well.
My twitch is/Ninjalah. I posted here a long time ago while I was learning Doom 1 speedrunning, so I feel kinda bad posting it again, but whatever.
Really I just want more than 1 viewer if I play a game other than SC2 or SFV.
>>343078321
>People getting something in return for supporting me
Wouldn't that be your content?
That's the entire fucking concept of already existing donations and subscriptions people support the streamer enough so they can take it as a full time job and produce a reliable daily stream of content similar to a tv station for your entertainment
>Muh chat icons
unfollow and unsub to the streamers who use bits if you don't like it.
it's the only way twitch will care.
>lirik is live now and actively endorsing bits
and people still need to donate after for him to pay attention. kek. what a fuckin' joke.
>>343080716
youd have to be some kid with your millionaire parents credit card to pull that off. Ive spent a couple hundred on currency for games and I feel like a piece of shit for what Ive done, but its better than completely wasting money on this
>>343080779
>>343080896
Don't you see anons, if you buy this 9 times you're literally getting 25k free bits. And you didn't have to do a thing.
>>343066908
And his chat is full of meme cancer and people who suck his dick 24/7
>>343075170
dook only pay
hookas
Okay I think a lot of you guys don't understand why this would be so popular or better then regular donations. From a streamers perspective here you go:
Through donation sites and buttons on a twitch page they take effort to set up and run to have that shit played on screen. They also sometimes crash and break. The other issue with those buttons is they only accept limited types of currency. You cannot donate using like your direct card if you wanted.
PayPal also does take a cut and I've personally seen 30c on 5$ taken and it gets lower the higher the donation. The other problem with PayPal is chargebacks. People will donate high amounts then a month later request it back which charges you a fee at that point and it fucking sucks. So to avoid chargebacks your money has to limbo for 3-9 months depending on the amount. If you spend that or deposit it in your actual bank and they request it back you get hit with the fee.
So basically this process is beneficial to each party because twitch accepted alternate payment methods and pays the steamer in a safer manner. I personally don't see an issue with it but it does look like camwhore sites and encourages the blight on twitch.
>>343073395
But how did they get the viewers in the first place? Did you ever try streaming? Your stream will appear at the bottom of the list and literally NO one will scroll all the way down let alone click on some person that doesn't have huge revealed breasts. How did they do it? Did they start with youtube and then switch to twitch with an already established fanbase or did they stream niche games?
>>343064323
They want to expand but they aren't allowed by the government to do so.
>>343081367
Actually there are People who only scroll to the bottom to watch more comfy streams. Always just act the same and don't look at your active view number. Constantly talk and someone is bound to talk back. Some do switch from other platforms though.
>>343081343
for twitch and streamers it's great.
viewers? nope. fuck that. i'm not paying more money for a "currency" with variable rates per streamer. now i have to pay $1.40 to give you $1. where is the sense in that, and what benefits do i get besides a shitty chat badge?
streamers love it. more money because people can buy bits instantly and spend them instantly without really knowing how much money they have spent.
>>343077928
>they have to callout bit donations now too.
Nobody has to call anything out. They do if they want the 12 year olds think they're special when their so called friend reads their wacky message. Too bad nobody does that besides I suppose Kripp with only subs which started off a joke into "oh shit I'm getting more money this way!"
They just looked at your typical cam site and thought
>Yo this would be the way to include donations
I thought Amazon was suppose to save Twitch, not make it worse than it was.
>>343081367
>Your stream will appear at the bottom of the list and literally NO one will scroll all the way down
Speak for yourself. I do this all the time when I'm more interested in the game than the person playing it.
>>343064323
ISP jews ruin everything.
>>343081847
no, they don't have to. if they don't - what's the point? people donate money so streamers pay attention to their message.
if they don't call it out, they risk losing other people donating because of it.
>>343081367
You either get viewers by going to an event (Any GDQ) or playing a newly released game, or getting lucky and getting invited to a highly anticipated Beta and being good at it.
The last thing happened to A_Seagull, that overwatch streamer who had maybe 100 viewers at the very most before Blizzard gave him good graces and invited him to the Overwatch Closed Beta. Now he can easily get 4,000 viewers every time he streams Overwatch.
Since this is the closest relevant thread, here's another e-celeb throwing a bitchfit
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ee88QK947o
>>343081821
Well as my part says the only benefit to normal people is the alternative payment methods that the donate button doesn't offer. That and for children they are going to be able to have set amounts to donate based upon what their parents put on there. I bet anything gift cards are going to be sold in stores for this and kids will request that shit for birthdays/Christmas. That's the sad truth of it.
>>343074162
But OP would play not watch.
>>343081367
Old streamers basically were persistent. Basically nobody around, people followed.
New streamers mostly by playing a new game that nobody else can which results in high views and then it's luck afterwards if anyone actually stays. See Hearthstone or Overwatch for a good example.
>>343063113
>I also remember Twitch restricting quality options for streamers unless you're famous. Dunno if they've changed it.
Twitch doesn't give source options to new streamers until they start streaming for awhile and have consistent viewership. It used to be restricted to people who had to be partners but I've seen unpartnered channels get source options.
Youtube gaming is better since you can stream at high or low bitrates and it has builtin source options. Twitch is outdated and they treat new streamers like complete peasants.
>>343082510
They have enough slots for quality options so if every partner is streaming they all can have quality options. When partners aren't streaming their slots go to the stream with the highest number of viewers and so on down the list.
>>343082164
Exactly what I said.
>>343082510
Twitch literally doesn't care about non-partners.
>>343073816
Yes you are.
>>343067490
>it's just tips that twitch gets a cut
Twitch wants a cut of everything, they are getting greedier and their service is shit anyway
>>343082383
well yeah, twitch/amazon are going to shill it to get the max amount of money. i think the cost of viewership is going to be great, though. i already know plenty who have unsubbed/unfollowed the streamers who are using bits currently.
then we have people like spamfish who are ranting the entire stream about not being able to use it, but don't even factor in the cost of viewers. streamers don't seem to give 2 fucks about viewers. every argument i've heard is always pro-streamer, like they are the customers of twitch, and not viewers.
>>343073540
I like Dick but his smoking really makes me want to pick up a pack every time he streams. I haven't had one in like 4 years. The only other time I've ever had urges was when Spacey would smoke on House of Cards. I wish tobacco companies would just put out mini packs with like 2 or 3 cigs in them. Committing to a whole pack is such a bitch. I would end up having to put in the freezer to keep them from going stale.
>not supporting your streamfu
rofl poorfags
>>343082510
>Youtube gaming is better since you can stream at high or low bitrates and it has builtin source options
>high or low
Really huge understatement there, twitch caps at 3500kbps, where as Youtube Gaming can go up at 10,000. The quality is not even comparable and the best part was that option was open to everyone, regardless of status.
>>343082637
Twitch can give every streamer quality options. They dont because they supposedly have to activate it on their channel instead of it begin default activated like on Hitbox or YTGaming. It's annoying as fuck when there are no quality options on someone you want to watch who is new or unpartnered.
>>343082967
i have easy way of dealing with smoking:my inner jew, dont want to buy me one
>>343079079
>people actually give their money to Witwix and Clint
The biggest faggots to ever have graced my screen.
>>343083010
>female streamer "playing video games"
>>343082943
Well streamers are basically customers of twitch also. They put money into the market just like viewers do. Or at least a lot do, I see a lot of streamers donate to bigger ones too get their name on that stream.
I agree on streamers no longer giving a fuck on reading chat or donations. I can understand from the bigger streamers perspective since that shit moves so fast but smaller ones are just not caring as much anymore.
Twitch is honestly sad how shill heavy it all is. I streamed for awhile but honestly I would rather do YouTube content over twitch. I may go back eventually and do a couple days worth but full time twitch just is shit and depressing.
You guys are being hard on twitch for no reason.
They probably glanced at the top streams one day and saw girls like this and decided they might as well chaturbate this shit up.
>>343083362
more like
>"female streamer" "playing" "video games"
>>343073395
>Being friendly to lonely dweebs with loads of disposable income
Why is this and being a "lonely dweeb" such a bad thing?
>>343083010
>>343083362
And they say being a girl is hard.
>>343085113Have you even tried?
>>343083010
Instead of giving money to some streamwhore that won't even take her cloths off, you might as well use the money to go to a strip club or have sex with a prostitute.
Giving money to streamwhores is the ultimate cuckery.
>>343080673
Casuals who browse the site looking for leaks will keep it afloat. The active user base is dropping off though. Funnily enough this change in dynamics is costing the site a ton of ad revenue.
>>343085113
hey man, keeping the weight off and finding a dude that doesn't treat you like dirt is "hard".
>>343081592
>>343082060
>>343064406
The fuck is the rationalization for this law you're mentioning?
>twitch is owned by amazon
damn I forgot about this. Google is getting cucked hard
>>343085434
Many cities have laws granting Comcast and AT&T exclusive rights to the wires and don't force them to share like the old days
>>343069010
>This isn't entirely true and has already been subject of various studies
What studies. I'm not sassing you or anything, this sounds like a genuinely interesting topic.
>>343085203
>you might as well use the money to go to a strip club or have sex with a prostitute.
yeah how about no, I actually respect women which is why I've had a gf and you cry yourself to sleep at night alone
>This entire fucking idea
So this is just going to cement the idea that if you participate in Twitch chat you're actually fucking braindead, right?
>>343085194
I would have if I wasn't 25 and even remotely looked like one.
>>343066820
Have a better personality.
>>343085648
sounds legit
>>343061914
Now you too can pay $308 to donate to your favorite streamer and give Twitch a cut of that rather than just donating directly! Don't worry, you get a (DISPOSABLE) chat emote!
>>343062590
what kind of eldritch horror is this creature of darkness?
>>343086180
Actually the most is 100k per message so more like $1232 :^) and 200k able to purchase per day
>>343070941
Fuck you.
>>343086676
Oh, that's even better. My bad.
I think subbing/donating to any streamer is a gigantic waste of money, but if you wanted to do it, giving Twitch a cut rather than doing it directly is heaping on the retardation
>>343062673
GO AWAY SPOOKY SKELTAL
>>343061914
>need to buy 1200$ worth of bits to get gold badge
ebin
>>343080361
I saw trihex get like 5000 from Andy Milonakis, they're shilling it fuckin hard
>>343087710
>pay $1200 for a little icon that tells people you paid $1200
>>343058713
>cheering
thats a fucking retarded name, not even getting into what the system actually is and how retarded it is
>>343078896
How come you took away the dots from the link?
>>343089398
spam filter
>>343079916
Her tits.
>>343063470
>putting Twitch cards up on store shelves.
I years ago you could ask me this and i would say this would never happen, but now it seems like something that would happen more likely than not
>>343058713
Youtube failed because it wasn't the first to successfully implement it, Twitch was.
so basically a case of too little, too late.
>>343089496
Oh know I see. Thanks for telling me.
This is a great move for Twitch, and I think it'll help more people donate as long as the donation alerts add it too. Mostly because some people don't like filling out a PayPal donation form, and it protects from the chargebacks that streamers were getting, although TwitchAlerts does this now by banning people who chargeback. Honestly 30% is a fine number to take considering the Streamer doesn't have to set up anything at all. As a viewer, I'd rather pay Twitch than PayPal.
>>343090417
I see through your shilling.
>>343063849
>>343064349
>>343065267
I have a friend trying to become a streamer and he does it so wrong,
>streams 3 times max a week
>often time skips the days he is supposed to stream
>plays games that don't interest most people like Roblox and Agar.io
>streams fairly late like at 6pm or 8pm pst
At that point, people are going to be watching other people for the most part.
>>343085828
You don't respect strippers at all?
>>343090723
>Roblox
>>343090723
>know somebody who gets no views, but starts making Steam and Facebook fan groups for himself
>that feel when want to be a youtuber because it's easier, but it's 10x harder to get a viewing crowd
Streaming sounds fun to do every once in awhile, but I just don't think I would have enough to say streaming 4-5 times a week for 3-5 hours at a time.
Especially at the start with no viewers.
>>343090865
I know. It's like if you want the kid crowd, play fucking Minecraft.
>>343090976
Know a guy with less than 5 viewers who made a patreon for his stream.
>Arab emigrates to EU
>Talks broken English
>Literally says "We Europeans are better than US"
>Just streams games at which she sucks
>Constantly gets donations about how they would fuck her and that they love her tits
>Gets temporarily banned
>Everyone starts defending her
https://twitter.com/themiramisu/status/747759880891695104
Where did it all go so wrong?
>>343090563
Nah man I don't donate at all, but Twitch was obviously leaking millions a year in revenue. I was surprised it took them this long to set up internal donations.
It was the most blatantly obvious move they could have made to get more revenue.
>>343058713
when you go to youtube.com there isn't a blindingly obvious place to view a stream
it should be on the main banner if they want traction
>>343077416
>>343077652
>>343077943
The last time I tried watching a streamer on twitch was this dude playing Dark Souls. He was cool for 5 minutes, and then he started doing the PDP gimmick
When you TALK LIKE this. And your VOICE GOES UP FOR NOW REASON... but sometimes goes super quiet and then OMG LOUD AGAIN!!!
Also "funny voices"
>>343091604
Even if you open up a stream on youtube.com you don't get sent to their Gaming site with the bigger chat and video. I feel like they aren't even trying to compete anymore.
>>343091502
Isn't this one of the bitches always spamming her channel on /v/?
She even has what's her face in the bottom right
>>343074441
>also, i don't understand how Summit got big in the first place
He got big by streaming CSGO when there was a huge demand for high skilled CSGO streams. Back in 2013 or perhaps early 2014 CSGO was growing rapidly but none of the actual pro players streamed regularly. And if there isn't a progamer streaming, you go to the next best thing available, a random Joe who's pretty good at the game.
>>343091870
Could be. I've seen 1 thread about her yesterday and a few more in the past.
>>343062931
SIGLEMICCCCCCCCC
>>343061914
Why pay for this when you could just spam pogchamp?
>>343092008
danChamp you mean
>>343091986
Her and Kaceytron do.
I think this girl is fat, vecause she has fat like tits and no pictures of her full body or standing up.
She really isn't even cute and her tits are saggy.
>check out Youtube Gaming
>see a guys stream
>MVP:*SomeGoy* :$1.00
>$1
this isn't average everyday failure. This is advanced failure. What can Google do?
>>343092292
>I think this girl is fat
She probably is. Just look at her face or tits. Either way I hate what Twitch has become. JTV was much better and I can't even remember if there were titty streamers. I also like how Twitch banned guys from streaming with their shirts off, but girls can still show their cleavage and act sexy in front of camera (dancing, leaning to show her butt and so on)
>Start twitching a modded Skyrim run
>Get banned for sexual conent
>Even though I never showed any sex or nudity other then a bare back
>>343092617
>JTV was much better
Agreed. Didn't the guy who own JTV, sell of the gaming/twitch part?
And then JTV bombed because no one cared about nongamers.
That's my friend's problem. People are there for the games first, and the person second when you are still starting.
However I do wonder what would happen if big streamers just sat at a black screen and replied to questions.
>>343092617
>I also like how Twitch banned guys from streaming with their shirts off, but girls can still show their cleavage
Didn't they ban "extreme" cleavage? Although we still see that.
>>343092643
>Twitching
It isn't a verb yet, anon.
>>343093451
It is now. He just verbed it.
>>343093146
Yeah JTV saw gaming was their biggest segment and went toward that, and it took off. Now they're adding some of the other stuff back into Twitch
>>343062521
Basically the cancer streamers huh? It makes sense.
>>343093530
i'll verb your adjective noun, you noun
Why you fags watch other people watching videogames?. That has to be the lowest form of entertainment.
Internet was a mistake.
>>343093451
>The English language never changes
>>343093931
>Yet
It's almost like you can't read.
>>343070941
Demolition_D+ and KawaiiPirahna are CUTE CUTE CUTE!!!
A company exists to make money and Twitch is no different. I don't really blame them for getting a cut of the donation pie themselves. It just comes across a bit shitty if they're really taking as much as 28% on the lower amounts and in return you get a badge that most people will probably disable in the future. I'm sure they'll expand on the perks in the future.
>>343074038
kripp
trihex
K E K
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mexicanrunner is pretty cool though
>>343091502
>Where did it all go so wrong?
She started fucking with Kaceytron, Kacey is friends with twitch staff so they are quicker to respond.
there is something genuinely wrong with the quality of youtube's streaming
it likes to switch encoding methods to something with ridiculous artifacts if there's too many streams being watched
you'd think youtube would be on the ball with outgoing data capabilities, but no
>>343094413
That's pretty good. But kacey should also be banned desu.
>>343094526
True, Ive seen her roast other streamers and get away with it.
>>343094526
Kacey is fine cause she's ironic, like /v/sarcasm
>>343061914
Well, so far donations have been money that they don't control moving in their system. This had to happen eventually.
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