Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that this game was the weakest in all of the souls-borne series?
>>343047656
You'll get a lot of shitposters, but yeah I agree.
DaS III is the weakest souls game to date.
>>343047759
i think you mean demons souls
Dark Souls is the only series that I think stayed flat through the series. Every improvement they made had an equal shit move.
DS > BB = DeS >> DS2 >= DS3
2 and 3 are the weakest by a wide margin but the DLC props the second on up a bit. Hopefully 3 will do the same.
>>343047656
No.
>>343048396
BB over DeS just screams fanboy desu.
>>343048959
Are you clinically retarded?
No doubt. It's just a really, really boring game. I can't imagine how people have already played it multiple times.
DS1 = BB > DS3 > DeS
DS2 not worth ranking with the rest
>>343049094
Proving my point.
No, it's the best one.
>>343047656
>Now that the dust has settled
We can agree that DaS 2 shills are some of the saddest people around.
It might a while, but ultimately people will realize that it'sactually the best one
>>343049241
DeS and BB are equal, though.
My personal opinion isDaS1 > DaS 2 > BB > DeS > DaS3
And i don't care for anyone else's opinions on my opinion.
I found Demon's Souls the weakest. Few choices for weapons and armor. Only a couple memorable bosses. Just because it's the first doesn't mean it's the best.
>>343049461
>Just because it's the first doesn't mean it's the best.
No that's exactly what it means. Everything it does badly doesn't count because it was first. Everything that the later one do better doesn't count either because those came later.
Yes. But all can be forgiven by the awesome character creation.
Super girly boys wielding fuckhuge weapons?
Yes please
>>343047656
Sorry my Friend but here it is.
DaS3>DaS2>DaS>Demon Souls
I didn't play BB so thats out of the List. Don't get me wrong now. I love Demon Souls, that just shows how strong the whole series is. I fiind that every game is an improvement to the last one. Yeah...Sure they all have flaws, but i don't care. I love them all.
>>343049448
Still a shit opinion, there's no denying that pal.
>tfw no remastered definite Dark Souls 1 where Izalith and Demon Ruins are remade to be what they were planned to be and not half-assed rushed content because of bamco
Despite these two areas, DaS is still the best souls game
DaS3 tried to hard to be BB without taking to account what made BB good.
>>343049741
>DaS3 tried to hard to be BB without taking to account what made BB good.
I doubt even you know.
>>343047656
Heres your (you)
What? DaS3 is a mechanical step up and had some fantastic pvp.
The progression could have been more open and they could have made the areas a bit longer. My only complaints.
>>343049823
Souls was always about it's methodical and tactical approach to encounters
BB was about GOTTA GO FAST.
No, 2 is worse, fuck you
>>343047656
I don't know man. 3s the least broken upon release and pretty much every area is solid(though people tend to hate the swamp).
>>343047656
BB = Des = Dark 1 = Dark 2 = Dark 3
They're all good, stop wasting your life arguing which one of these good games is "the goodest" like jesus, stop making these threads every single fucking day
BB > DaS = DeS > DaS3 > DaS2
I doubt this will change even with DLC for 3, 3's problems are on a fundamental level whereas BB was just lacking content
>>343049695
Says the guy that thinks HIS opinion is the best.
Every single installment is pretty much just a reskin with some mechanics tweaked around, if each sequel was as large a departure from the rest as BB was it wouldn't feel so stale. After getting the plat in every game in the series and amassing >1k hours across all of them, no shit it gets boring since they largely play the same each time. I did enjoy DkS3 PvP the most and BB PvP the least, BB PvE on the other hand is tied in first place with DkS1 for me.
DkS1 = DeS = BB DLC > BB = DkS3 > DkS2 DLC >>> DkS2
>>343048959
why?
>>343049652
> >Demon Souls
>DS last
this is summer, look at it, point at it and laugh at it.
>>343049997
>das2 bad
and opinion discarded
>>343050023
>you're not allowed to have an opinion that doesn't instantly agree with my opinion le opinion le discarded
>>343049913
I literally fell through floors and elevators in DaS3 and enemies spawned in walls or disappeared into them at times too.
DaS3 was the MOST broken Souls game on release, at least from my experience.
How could it be the weakest if it removed the abomination of Soul Memory? It's not the best though.
MASTER RACE POWER RANKING INCOMING
DS1 = BB > DeS > DS3 > DS2
>>343050063
i have never seen any of that except for the teleporting dog shit
>>343049652
>sure they have flaws but I don't care
And that's why your opinion is garbage.
Never played a souls game. Are the online features worth it or should I just pirate it (the first one)
>>343049913
>3's the least broken on release
nigger the poise stat still doesn't work
least broken were BB and DeS, DaS was the most broken, then OK when patched, then broken again when dark magic was introduced and no nerfs
>>343050056
>you're only allowed to agree with the opinion that my peers agree on aka /v/
>>343047656
>>343047759
>>343048396
>>343049448
you guys are just fatigued. 5 games that play largely the same in the span of like 6 years. its tough not to get bored
>>343047656
Ranking of the SOULS games based on what they have or don’t have compared to the other titles
Das3 > Das1 > Des > Das2
Das3
Pros:
>weapon arts, best gameplay
>best bosses, bosses with two phases
>boss music changes with the phases
>blood splatter
>offers different interpretations to the lore
>DLC’s will only make it better
Cons:
>worst poise
>worst covenants
>able to summon people at any level with a password
Dark Souls
Pros:
>best characters
>best music
>best poise
>best covenants
>best DLC (as of now)
Cons:
>need a mod to play properly
>too many bosses that turn into normal enemies
>worst aesthetic
Demon’s Souls
Pros:
>best aesthetic
>best enemies
>best level design
Cons:
>30 fps
>can only be played on a 7th gen console
>world tendency
Das2
Pros:
>power stance and offhand moveset
>best NG+
>bonfire ascetics
Cons:
>worst control
>worst bosses
>worst level design
>enemies with tracking
>charged for a complete edition with separate servers
>weapons degrade faster when played at 60 fps
>SOUL MEMORY
>>343050023
you stupid ds2 apologists literally only showed up after ds3 released, before that everyone was shitting on it constantly and it was unanimously considered the weakest game in the series
DS > DS3 > DeS > DS2
Haven't played BB, but probably should given I haven't used a shield in my last four playthroughs. After DS3 I'm not as worried about it being shorter either because a few quality levels and bosses are significantly better than clones.
>>343050063
>DaS3 was the MOST broken Souls game on release, at least from my experience.
I doubt you played the other games on release then.
>>343047656
Absolutely.
DeS>BB>DaS2>DaS>DaS3
>>343050151
>nigger the poise stat still doesn't work
It works as intended :^)
Durability on the other hand...
>>343050063
>lost izalith on release
>shrine of amana on release
>>343050213
BB is the longest souls game if you do the non-random chalice dungeons
>>343050197
I agree with pretty much all of this
why is password summoning a con, though? twinks?
>>343047656
DaS2 and DeS are worse
Dark Souls 2 is just such a fundementally shit game, there's nothing to like about it, it physically feels bad to play. It's like Bamco just took a massive turdy dump on the collective Souls playerbase all at once.
>>343050317
>DaS1 on release
>TwoP + crystal shield
>fog ring
>scaling was useless so get lightning zweihander and dump stats into vit/end
>>343050206
>nobody liked das2 until das 3 came out
Nobody is this retarded anon
>>343050285
>DeS and BB
>best ones
maybe if they were available on pc so you can get playable fps
>>343050502
(you)
>>343050125
Nope. Not really. Everything has flaws you dumb shit. Whichever you think is the best still has flaws.
>>343050434
Console limitations
Bamco rushing the team
Game scrapped halfway through development because of said limitations
Team forced to reuse assets because Bamco wanted the game out NOW.
What a disaster. Funny that it's better than DaS3.
>>343050535
enjoy your 20 fps powerpoints faggot
>>343050238
>>343050317
Well I did!
Though to be fair maybe DeS got fixes by the time it released in EU, and for DaS1 I got PtDE anyway.
DaS2 was fine though. But I was probably not fast enough to get to Shrine of Amana in time for bugs.
>>343050582
(you)
>>343050016
>le summer, look at me how hip I am.
Dumb fuck.
BB = DeS > DaS > DaS3 > DaS2
Bloodborne could have been the best if the invasions system wasn't so bad and gems weren't Korean grind fest tier.Also if there was something similar to Old Monk.
>>343050585
>DaS2 was fine
>climax/great resonant soul OHKOing
>miracles in general being broken
ayy lmao
>>343050434
>no torch
I know the game got downgraded but that's a stupid comparison as it didn't even try to match the original
>>343047656
>mods still allow threads like these
come on
A good dlc can save it
>>343050748
The console version didn't even need the torch is the thing, it was still pretty well lit. In the demo it was pitch black and required a torch to see anything.
>always liked das2 despite /v/'s shitposting and "hurr durr hiveminding"
>suddenly more people like das2 after das3 was a disaster
>get called contrarian even though i enjoyed it to begin with
faggots
>>343047656
Depends on what you're grading it with.
Over all? No the weakest is still DaS2.
>>343050878
not him, I was hyped as hell for dark souls 2 and when I saw the demo I was almost as wet as when I fought Artorias for the first time. Then the actual game and well, you know
>>343047656
Haven't played it yet but what I hate about the series is as it went on they stopped having interesting bosses and instead they started becoming these huge humanoid bosses instead. This shit got really old in 2.
DeS bosses were so fun because they had a zelda like feel to them that the series pretty much completely abandoned after DeS.
2 > 1 > 3
>>343051072
Star Wars
>>343051012
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
>>343049956
Your words fall on mostly deaf ears, anon, but goddamn I'm glad I'm not alone. I've loved every souls game I've played and I'm really loving Bloodborne. I'm sure I'll love Dark Souls 3, and probably whatever new IP Miyazaki is planning now.
>>343047656
DS2 was the weakest by far
>>343050945
>suddenly more people like das2 after das3 was a disaster
>more people like das2
>das3 was a disaster
you're the only faggot here
>>343050434
I remember everyone being so convinced that the pre release videos graphics were going to be in the actual game. Don't you niggers act like you thought otherwise. No one predicted that the downgrade would be such a slap in the face. It's probably the worst downgrade in history.
i started playing DS2 on the weekend and i have to say the bosses are easy as fuck
almost everyone i've come across so far i've killed on the first try with a few needing more than 1 try to beat
if anything the regular enemies give me more trouble because some of them have little to no wind up and i cant roll for a good while after i attack (20 adp if that means anything)
DLC can't save DaS3 from being a linear straight line the whole way through.
>>343050197
>Pros:
>>weapon arts, best gameplay
>>best bosses, bosses with two phases
>>blood splatter
>>offers different interpretations to the lore
>>343051340
>thinking that shit would ever run on a PS3 and 360 reliably
lol
>>343051468
>linear=bad
>>343050197
>DaS2 cons:
>worst level design
>not DaS3
ayylmao.
>>343051530
>pretending you were one of the doubters
Almost no one on /v/ was saying otherwise. As I said, nobody could have predicted the downgrade would be that massive. NOBODY
>>343051637
>lost Bastille floating in mid air
>iron keep floating in mid air
>a piece of rubble blocks you from going to Drangleic castle
>none of the locations logically make sense connecting to each other
dumb
No fucking way DaS2 is better than DaS3. If you think this you are out of your goddamn mind
>>343047656
DaS3's gameplay is far superior to both Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1. Those two games' PVEs might as well be broken with how easy it is to constantly parry, backstab and chainbackstab everything.
Whether or not DaS3's gameplay is better than BB's is debateable and boils down to personal preference, but I'd say it's definitely deeper than Bloodborne's gameplay.
Unfortunately DaS3's world is really bland and needed an extra sheen of polish. It also needed to be a lot less linear, don't know how Miyazaki fucked that up.
It's still much better than DaS2, which had an even worse looking world, broken hitbox detection, shitty sludgy feeling unresponsive combat and a bunch of other shit that made it mediocre.
>>343051546
I don't know, man. I was hoping it to at least be as open as DaS2 if not like 1.
Instead it ended up being a big long corridor.
>>343047656
DeS=DaS1=BB>das3>shit>das2
>>343051749
>a corpse holding a key not appearing until you defeat 3 bosses
>corpse isnt even dead, guy still blinking
>door that is already cracked open enough you can slide through
>still have to light 3 flames to pass
>anor londo just being floating in the sky for no reason
okay
>>343051774
>make only three DaSIII characters because that's all you can really make
>make at least twelve DaSII characters because of the build variety and fashion options
>>343051814
i finished archdragon peak before going to carthus
it's not that linear
>>343047656
BB > DaS3 > DaS > DeS > DaS2
>>343051749
That's not level design, you fucking retard.
>>343050197
You forgot about soul vessel in DS2. It's great being able to change your character for a new game and not being stuck in the same build.
>>343051847
gotthard's been following the game just like you
that has nothing to do with level design
what area?
what area?
it's not floating in the sky, what are you talking about?
>>343049865
DaS3's mechanics were garbage. It was like a half-assed DMC with easier bosses, no air combat, and dumbed down combos.
Then there were stats that are just straight up useless or broken.
DaS3 basically dumbed the game down to a typical hack and slash, but without the good hack and slash part.
>>343051937
It's also good in case you fuck up your stat allocation for weapons / spells you wanted to use. Make any mistake in the other games, and it's just fucking game over, hours and hours wasted.
>>343051937
das3 has the same thing
>>343051981
>what area?
>what area?
Did you not play the game?
What other part of the game requires to light 3 flames, you doofus.
>>343051749
>>lost Bastille floating in mid air
You literally go there by ship. You can see the water.
>>iron keep floating in mid air
You just don't see the mountain it is situated on.
>>a piece of rubble blocks you from going to Drangleic castle
dunno, lol
>>none of the locations logically make sense connecting to each other
wrong!
>>343051937
He forgot a lot of things.
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com
Read up all that is DaS II.The game is miles better than any other souls games.Most people simply never truly played the game.
>>343052041
oh, farron keep
how is lighting the three flames bad level design?
>>343047656
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>>343050197
>Based on what they have or don't have.
>A bunch of worthless opinions.
wew
>>343052113
because the door is already open
>>343052113
You actually extinguish them but whatever
>>343051879
How is that even possible? To get to Archdragon Peak you have to be in the Irythill Dungeon which is after Carthus.
>>343047656
I will reserve judgement for when the DLC drops. 2 was pretty weak without the DLC too.
>>343049741
BB = DS > DeS > DS3 >Lords of the fallen > DS2
>>343052165
you can kill Emma, kill the dancer, and then kill Ocieros
>>343051863
Is one of those characters Guts? If so, count me the fuck in.
Nah. Dark souls 2 is the worst.
>>343047656
DS > DS3 = DeS > BB > DS2
>>343052165
>>343052205
oh wait i said carthus, i meant to say i finished archdragon peak before aldrich and yhrom
>>343052163
fuck farron keep
>>343052129
thanks doc
>>343051749
>Rubble blocks you
This has been the case in pretty much all the soulsborne games.
The inability to jump or scale small walls (DeS had some vaulting but not really I think) has impeded more progress than the most dire of enemies.
There's a reason someone like Gilligan made it all the way to the profaned capital.
>>343052205
Let me ask again, maybe I wasn't clear
How do you get to Archdragon Peak without going through Carthus?
Oceiros unlocks Path of Dragon gesture yes, but how do you go to Archdragon Peak when you need to be in Irythill Dungeon to go there.
>>343052353
i goofed
>>343052305
>>343052353
Ayy, you aren't me!
BB > DS > DS3 > lords of the fallen > shit >
> dog shit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manus's shithole > ds2
never played demon souls but its probably still eons better than shit souls 2
>>343049996
No, just that yours is bad.
>what is DS2
Now that the dust as settled and you have something new to complain about, lets all forget about the fucking travesty that was Dark Souls 2
>>343049956
eh, it's the typical "the toy my mommy bought me is shinier than the toy your mommy bought you!" console-warrior shitposter mentality that pervades most video games discussions these days.
>>343050197
>>enemies with tracking
oh fug
play through the games again please
>>343050465
>>DaS1 on release
>>TwoP
*shudders*
I can't believe I forgot those invaders. That was the cheapest shit ever. I just remembered that faggot that invaded me with TWOP and that spell or whatever that made your footsteps soundless. He was dressed aeshetic and fuck and came all quiet in the archives. It felt like rape.
>>343052305
Yeah, fair enough, you can do that, but that's about the only free reign you get in the game.
And the choice you make boils down to whether you do Lothric Castle first or the rest of the game.
In both DaS1 and 2 you have at least 4 paths that you can choose to follow in the beginning.
>>343050197
>this copypasta again
Just fuck off.
>>343052612
*And yeah, he had the fucking 1.00 fog ring on too so I couldn't lock onto him.
YOU HAVE BROUGHT REPRESSED MEMORIES OUT OF ME SIR
>>343052480
>>343052492
>DaS2 was bad
Well meme'd!
After lurking both /v/ and /dsg/ and playing all 5 games, I can conclude that we all can agree that this is the most OBJECTIVELY CORRECT power rankings if we were to order them based on release date.
DeS > DaS > DaS 2 > BB > DaS 3
I remember having a blast with Das2 but still thinking it was the least best souls game
when anons starting to really shit on Das2 to i would get upset and start defending the game
after beating Das3 a few times i went back to see how Das2 aged.
after a few minutes all i could say was, "oh... oh no..."
yeah, Das2 has not aged well
3 at least feels like a proper sequel. 2 feels like a romhack, shit isn't even fun to play
>>343047656
DS2 and 3 were better than 1
>>343049741
>shitty sections of das1 are the publisher's fault
>shitty sections of das2 are the b-team's fault
>>343052804
>shit isn't even fun to play
says you fuckboy
>>343047656
Dark Souls 3 is arguably the better game, but I had a lot more fun with 2.
I hope the DLC fixes this.
>>343052480
Bloodborne went back to a handful of elements removed from Demon's souls; blood vials are basically moon grass that you can't carry 99 of for example.
Demon's Souls also has better endings than the first two Dark Souls games (haven't finished bloodborne or III as of yet.)
majula music makes my ear bleed
>>343052702
In what respect? I played it last week and thought it looked better than DeSIII in some respects.
>>343052832
>publisher rushes development team
>developer has to cut corners due to publisher pressure
>this is somehow the developers fault
I still like it but it is the weakest overall. PvP is completely fucked up in this game, where 2 fucked the world and lore design.
But i'm not implying DaS3 has great world design (oh look another chapel again, and lets not talk about Chalizalith)
>>343051847
>door that is already cracked open enough you can slide through
Are you serious? Farron? Take a look again, moron. There is no gap whatsoever.
>>343052912
i think it looks AND plays the worst
rolling makes you go 2 feet, walking backwards makes you walk slower, walking isn't as precise as the other souls games, etc
after a few minutes i just sadly turned it off
>>343052804
After my second attempt at forcing myself to finish DS2, I'm shortly after getting to the castle and I haven't enjoyed it at all. The bosses were especially disappointing.
I hope at least the DLC is good meme has some truth to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UScsme8didI
>>343052939
Literally every game has had to deal with deadlines, and most of them don't end up half-finished. Blaming the publisher is a shitty fucking scapegoat that miyazaki fags cling to, instead of just admitting that from got lazy and/or was incompetent.
Where do I go after Aldrich? I've been wandering around for a few hours now. Went downstairs and beat Old Demon King but that's a dead end too.
>>343053089
>get deadline
>deadline suddenly halved
>this is poor planning of the developers
-(You)
Sony doesn't rush the team, why does Bamco?
As it stands, I'd barely put DS3 above DS2.
>Completely linear levels and progression, even moreso than DS2
>A lot of the game is brown and yellow piss filter
>Weapon variety just isn't there since long swords/estoc trumps all
>Magic is shit this time around
>PvP is a chore with how much estus each side gets and how it's almost impossible to punish
>Auto summon covenants were broken for months and they STILL don't have an equivalent blue eye orb
>etc.
As good as it is, it just has way too many flaws for me to rate it highly.
>>343053068
>first major problem happens less than a minute into the intro
fucking savage
>>343052939
Every souls game gets cut content, or cuts corners because of From's incompetence.
DaS1 is basically half-finished, and it's the most obviously so.
>>343053067
well if you actually "haven't enjoyed it at all" and aren't just trying to impress everyone with your super-high standards, no, you won't enjoy the rest of it. But it sounds like you might just be a sourpuss.
>>343052912
>looked better
DS3 is my least favorite but DS2 is easily the ugliest game in the series. It's filled to the brim with ugly blocky textures and dull lighting.
>>343053160
It depends entirely on how much you know about the game. There are always some features advertised that don't make it through, but DS2 is the worst if you kept up with the interviews because one of the first things they said was that the world would be the same as DS1, just denser.
>>343052702
I kind of feel the same, but mainly for DaS.
>Start up the game
>Animations and controls feel clunky
>Get bored since enemy AI is shit and every fight revolves around chain backstabbing everything I come across
>Lose all motivation to play once I beat Anor Londo
The magic is gone.
>>343053123
Go to the profaned capital. It's at the end of that swampy area in Irithyll, go past the sewer where you find the excrement ashes and go into the building, eventually you'll find Irithyll dungeon and just go from there.
>>343053136
>deadline is suddenly halved
That's a fucking ridiculous exaggeration. And regardless, you work to make it happen and cut content if you have to, the same as literally every other game ever made.
>>343053147
>most complaints are with pvp
play the game as fantasy rpg you sperglord, quit being obsessed over an extra function of the game that has been from's second thought since demon's souls
>>343052149
its clearly closed, unless you're talking about some back entrance.
>>343053226
>DS2 is the worst if you kept up with the interviews because one of the first things they said was that the world would be the same as DS1, just denser.
And yet DaS2's world feels fine, whereas DaS1's feels blatantly unfinished.
>>343053249
on that topic, am I the only one steamed that the profaned "capital" is just two goddamn buildings?
>>343053035
The walking backwards thing was a good change. Less faggots pirouetting around the shop. And roll distance increases the less encumbered you are.
Things I liked:
>mocapped animations
>armor and weapons sit better on the model
>models don't have pencilnecks
>cloth physics are more realistic and wind seems to affect them more
>water and other liquids would make your clothes damp, at varying levels, depending how deep you waded
>>343053269
But only two of those greentexts were about PvP?
I also forgot to say that the level design was all over the place as well. You have places like Settlement with tons of exploration and side paths, then you have levels like Ithryil which are basically straight lines.
What the fuck.
>>343053297
>DaS2 world is better than DaS1's
Hahaha!
Das > DasIII > Des > DasII > BB
>>343053297
iron keep full of lava takes place up above the skies
DeS = DaS > DaS3 > DaS2
>>343053297
MGSV felt blatantly unfinished. DaS1 justs felt a bit rushed, while still providing a conclusion to the story.
>>343053348
There aren't many places in DaS2 that feel unfinished in my opinion whereas in DaS1 the latter half of the game feels like it never got out of beta.
>>343053249
Alright thanks
>>343053360
>Ash Lake
>>343053360
if that actually affected your enjoyment of the game in any way you are the absolute worst kind of pedant.
>>343053269
Unfortunately, FROM has been thinking about the online features. That's why every game since DeS has been gutted. DS1 took away full orbs for most of the game unless you twinked, DS2 took away full orbs completely and put on Soul Memory, and DS3 and BB actively throw you in 2v1 or 3v1 situations outside of designated invasion zones.
>>343053297
Don't even bother defending DS2s world. It's incoherent and it was made that way due to development troubles rather than any intentional design choices.
objectively the right order
BB = DeS > DaS2 > DaS > DaS3
>>343053360
walking into a painting that's fine though it's just magic bro haha
>>343053402
>yet another person equating world with individual levels
>>343053348
You said that.
>>343053360
Yet it doesn't feel unfinished, like Lost Izalith does. It's a level you can walk through and not say "What the fuck happened here?" other than the "It's in the sky above Earthen Peak!" meme.
If they really wanted to, they could've just put a long-ass hallway after Mytha and it would've been completely fine.
>>343053435
i'm just refuting your point where you said that das2's world feels fine. it clearly isn't
>>343053467
This
>>343052998
>Ladder that doesnt realease till you kill or let a priestess get killed
>stairs to the right that have hip high barricade you can't jump over
LOL
BB>DaS3=DaS>>Das2>>DeS
>>343053303
Most of it is a ruin. We can probably assume most of it crumbled into the pit surrounding it, likely as a result of the profaned flame. I mean go down the stairs where the shooty flame is and across the bridge where you find the rubbish and you can see the giant bridge is broken.
>>343053409
No problem buddy. I had the same problem on my first playthrough
>>343053476
The original Anon was talking about levels though, which is why he said it was unfinished. Maybe you should brush up on your reading comprehension.
Das1 is definitely not as good as bloodborne and was shit in the 2nd half of the game. Won't even bring up how superior it's DLC is too.
Bloodborne was undoubtedly the worst imo
>>343047656
It tries to be too many of the other souls games at once, Bloodborne was its own thing, DS2 was also very unique even if it was very flawed.
>>343053467
How do you come to that conclusion? I can understand liking BB and DeS, but what turned you off from DS3?
>>343047656
I agree 100%. I just didn't enjoy it as much as the others.
>>343053479
>If they really wanted to, they could've just put a long-ass hallway after Mytha and it would've been completely fine.
You and I both know the drones on here would be bitching about that too.
>>343053467
>>343053493
you honestly think Das2 is better than Das3?
you would willingly rather play Das2 to completion than Das3?
>>343053489
>COMPLETELY relocated the goalposts
LOL
Now that the dust has settled, can you suck my cock?
>>343047656
from a technical standpoint excluding SM DS2 has been the series pinnacle of online play and PvP
>>343053584
Not him, but >>343053147
DaS3 just didn't feel that fun for me to play. Maybe I'm just burned out on Souls, but its flaws were very apparent to me.
>>343053578
t.Pcuck
>>343053573
BB's only saving grace is the DLC.
2 boss fights does not make the game suddenly good. (Kos/Ludwig)
>>343053484
In addition to me not being the person you were originally responding to, the point is that the supposed logical placement of locations in the world is an extremely minor detail, especially in a series where unrealistic and impossible geography and architecture are the norm. The iron peak placement bashing stick is literally the weakest argument for dark souls 2 being bad there is, but for some reason people keep trotting it out.
>>343053615
>>343053493
meant for
>>343053485
>>343052053
Look dude, Don't defend Iron Keeps location, You literally go straight up an elevator into a large pool of lava and fortress, Something you can't even see from below.
>>343053068
WHY DO IRISH FAGGOTS SAY TREE INSTEAD OF THREE
WHY CAN'T THEY SAY 'THR'?
FUCK THE IRISH
>>343053547
Then next time say the levels are fine, not the world.
>>343053583
it's a true sequel to 1 where they gave us answers to some questions from dark souls 1 and some new things like lothric and irythil. of course they had to bring back things from the previous games. bloodborne and demons souls were their own thing. dark souls 2 was supposed to be a true sequel like 3 but they butchered it
>>343053147
>Completely linear levels and progression, even moreso than DS2
DaS2 is actually the 2nd least linear only losing to DeS
>>343053646
I wish i had a pc even capable of running a souls game. Instead I have a ps4.
I just didn't enjoy bloodborne that much.
>>343051847
>>door that is already cracked open enough you can slide through
Are you blind? Have you even played the game? There's clearly no way any human could squeeze through that.
BB > DS2 SOTFS > DS1 > DS2 (At release) > DS3
>>343053467
I finally fucking agree.
>>343053592
>You and I both know the drones on here would be bitching about that too.
Probably, since right off the bat at least two NPCs tell you that the kingdom of Drangleic doesn't have a typical geographic layout as a normal kingdom, and that one place seems to suddenly lead to another based on their relation to one another rather than proximity.
>>343053615
>you would willingly rather play Das2 to completion than Das3?
I beat DaS3 once and got bored through the garbage NG+ it has. Everyone loves it because it's by far the easiest of the series, other than cheesing DeS and DaS1.
For all the shit DaS2 gets, I beat that game at least half dozen times over the years, and am playing through it right now with another build I haven't tried before. It's not as bad as everyone on /v/ wants to scream that it is.
Also played through DaS1 3-4 times when it first came out.
>>343053649
The same reason people keep bitching about tracking, multiple enemies, "pile of rubble", humanoid bosses, and "muh shortcuts"
>>343053769
>There's clearly no way any human could squeeze through that.
t.fatfuck
>>343053489
just admit it, you're a complete maroon.
>>343053805
>it's by far the easiest of the series
you really have to be phenomenally retarded and oblivious to your own biases to think this
>>343053402
>Harvest Valley
>Earthen Peak
>Black Gulch
>Shaded Woods
>Drangleic Castle
>not unfinished
I'd rather play through these levels than the latter half of DS1(excluding TotG) because they're not nearly as tedious, but it has a ton of areas that don't feel like they have a reason to exist.
>>343053838
beeeecause they're valid complaints?
>>343053648
Das1 has like what, 2 good bosses in total including dlc which are O&S and Artorias.
>>343053758
Fair point, Lore wise i suppose i support it, But they kept leaning towards bloodborne with some things, Like enemies with 6 hit combos and the whole riposte large enemies aspect was really dumb.
>>343053937
>O&S good
Haha
>>343053838
Dark Souls 2 deserves all of those criticisms aside from multiple enemies, which is only because shitters don't realize that the games specifically put you in unfair situations. It's just bullshit when they try to pin those flaws on DS2 only, when they're often present throughout the whole series.
>>343053578
t. PC
>>343053879
You have to be phenomenally retarded and oblivious, or straight up haven't played the other games to think DaS3 is at all difficult.
Dark Souls games are built on the concept of punshing stupidity and mistakes. Instant Estus, roll spam, huge parry and backstab windows, and stunlocking the majority of the enemies in the game means that's not the case in DaS3.
I'm sorry you found it difficult, but it really wasn't.
>>343053712
I already made it clear I'm not him, but one should be able to garner the meaning when he said 'incomplete'.
>>343053767
Pretty sure DaS is more nonlinear bruh.
>>343047656
This some stale ass shit. Away with you, nigger
>>343053961
Post the ingame image.
>>343053961
Whoops, got them mixed up.
>>343053615
Yes
>>343053918
Bitching about tracking is absolutely not a valid complaint. He even makes the analogy to the Adjudicator fight which was fucking awful specifically because it didn't track you.
DS1>DS2>DS3=DeS
haven't played side step souls
>>343053879
DaS3 isn't hard once you realize it's trying to be BB but constrain you to DS mechanics and adapt accordingly.
>>343053912
The only one out of those I'd say is unfinished is Shaded Woods actually. That area just felt like hot garbage even in SotFS.
>>343053937
quelaag, iron golem, capra, stray demon, manus, lightning manticore thing, sif, gwyn
>Irithyll Dungeon
>more fucking underground sewer shit
This is fucking boring and lazy, chalice dungeons were drab and dull,I am so fucking lost
>>343053578
>better combat
>better level design
>better lore and soundtracks
>more content than the other games
>despite less weapons each have their own multiple unique movesets
Deffo not the worst and was a title that actually brought something new instead of the rehash 3 is.
>>343053994
>huge parry and backstab windows
>stunlocking the majority of the enemies in the game
Wait, are you saying that these are things in DaS3 and NOT in DaS? Is this some shitty bait? You've got it fucking backwards bud
>>343047656
But that's not a picture of Bloodborne
>>343053584
fanservice
>hey guys remember this? ;)
>hey guys remember that? ;)
>hey guys remember him? ;)
>hey guys remember her? ;)
if i could physically punch one game in the face it would be this one
JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP
GOD...
>>343053068
Always nice to watch the parts where he complains about multiple enemies, and he's just getting his shit kicked in because he's completely unable to adapt to a situation, then acts like it's the fault of the game.
How do people take this shitter seriously?
>>343054084
>Finally get to Ithryill Valley
>Everything looks gorgeous and I orgasm
>Actually play through the rest of the levels
What a disappointment. I'm still baffled as to how the level design can nosedive so hard after the really strong and nonlinear layout of stuff like Undead Settlement and Road of Sacrifices.
>>343054117
DS3 was bad but nothing trumps the stupid appearance of Edge Ornstein in DS2
>>343054117
why does a game referencing previous entries in a series make you so irrationally angry?
did you flip out every time they mentioned liberty city in gta 5?
>>343054117
how dare a game that's third in a series that takes place in the same universe mention countries and characters from the previous game
>>343053994
the parry window in das is at least twice as long as the one in das3, as well as being less punishing if you fuck up. sounds like you really haven't played either game so i'm not sure why you're commenting. also idk in what world you think enemies in das3 are easier to stunlock than das. everything in 3 poises through even the heaviest weapons and fucks your shit up if you try to spam.
>>343054117
I thought it was the worst in the series as well, but I figured someone that put BB first would at least appreciate all of the BB style they put in the game.
>>343054172
Yes
>>343054163
I never had a problem with Ornstein since I always thought it was just some dude who worshipped him. It kind of tips you off that it's not the same guy when he starts using hexes for some reason.
>>343054163
rather have edgestein over literally gwyn
>>343054103
No, they're in DaS you dunce. The difference is that they're IN ADDITION to other things that already make the game more less able to punish the player's stupidity and their mistakes, which straight up means the game is just easier on multiple levels.
Just because you don't have reading comprehension, and you want to pick out one small part of a post and act like that one thing is somehow the driving force behind an entire point, doesn't mean it's bait.
>>343054084
>he got lost in kindergarten Tower of Latria
Dude its literally just an H-shaped room.
>>343054219
you're an idiot, Soul of Cinder is one of the best bosses in the series and barely plays like Gwyn
>>343054163
>nothing trumps the stupid appearance of Edge Ornstein in DS2
Andre and not-Yuria
2 is still by far the worst.
Still, I feel like it's a dying series already. Demons and the first Dark Souls were just so much better.
>>343054118
I don't like DaS2 but I just reached the part where he's complaining about dealing with multiple enemies with the lock on mechanic. Gotta admit that what he says is retarded. You don't have to lock on, just keep the camera angled so you can see all enemies and keep your character angled appropriately and hit R1.
That was p shitter of him 2bh.
>>343054219
But that made sense, Soul remains of the fire kindlers and all that, Black Magic Ornstein had no reason being in the middle of a ruined sea fortress, Nor no reason to be BLACKED.
>>343053467
>>343053787
Patrician taste, anons. GOD I JUST REMEMBERED HOW MUCH I LOVE BLOODBORNE
>>343054258
>and barely plays like Gwyn
Holy fuck how can you just sit on your fat ass and just fucking L I E
>>343054213
Now without the deceptive angle
>>343054272
see I don't get this, usually autistics are comforted by things that are familiar, rather than getting mad at them.
Rehash 3
>>343054258
>Soul of Cinder is one of the best bosses in the series
LOL
>>343054312
>first phase
>second phase shares maybe three moves
like i said, you're an idiot
>>343054272
I'll give you andre because it makes no sense for him to outlive a giant and thousands of years of kindling, But Karla LOOKS like Yuria but acts nothing like her, So who cares?
>>343054316
Crazy right? It's almost as if shoehorning important NPCs is worse than shoehorning optional bosses.
What happened to him?
>>343054185
Not him, but I just felt like they went overboard with it. I would've been fine if they kept most references to Gwyn and built up on the story of Sulvahyn and Aldritch more instead of going
>LOL REMEMBER ANDRE?
>LOL REMEMBER ARTORIAS?
>LOL REMEMBER ORNSTEIN?
>LOL REMEMBER GWYNDOLIN?
>LOL REMEMBER ANOR LONDO?
>etc.
I'm actually really disappointed we didn't get more focus on the Lords of Cinder. They felt more like a plot device than their own thing.
>>343047656
DS3 = Bloodborne > DS > DS2 > DeS
All opinions that differ from mine are shit.
>>343054353
Ok, so Dark Ornstein is a completely different boss, lmao, only shares like 3 attacks :^)
>>343054249
but those things were largely removed in das3 except the estus. you certainly can't backstab spam anymore. parrying is much, much harder than in the original game. most enemies poise through everything when they're in an attack animation, unlike das where they could be staggered out of any attack. enemies are faster and hit harder, and there are more tough enemies scattered throughout the world than in das. i really have no idea what the fuck you're trying to say but you just sound like an idiot who hasn't played the games he's trying to discuss
>>343054353
>shares three moves, each swing from his one combo in DS1
>shares his grab attack
>shares his sunlight spears
>shares his theme song
>shares his stance / idle animations
>but it ain't Gwyn
A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A
>>343053068
>Im a butthurt fag no one should take seriously
matt is autistic, and also really bad at artistic interpretation, ie 90% of his complaints in this game
>>343047656
Das 1 + BB= DS3
Why aren't people liking this?
>>343054258
>and barely plays like Gwyn
But phase 2 is literally updated Gwyn.
>>343054293
It's just idiots who don't adapt and think DaS2 is too hard for bad reasons. Like you had people on here complaining they don't give you enough estus at the beginning when in fact you have infinite life gems. Or how /v/ always cries about their weapons breaking without ever using a single repair powder.
>>343047656
DS1 for the first time, as your first souls game > DS3 > DS1 on replays >>> DS2
>>343054370
The alimony and Tyrone happened.
>>343047656
Nah, dark souls 2 is. I know you faggots seem to go against the general consensus that it's a bad souls game to be cool but it just plain sucks. I tried to go back and play it and the movement, combat, level design and artificial difficulty caused by throwing lots of enemies at you at once is awful.
>>343054097
I tried to enjoy it
I just couldn't.
Pretty much just From going through the motions due to contractual obligations to Bamco for multiplat Souls. Heres hoping they drop the multiplat meme (especially PC) and go back to being Sony exclusive so they can start making quality stuff again.
>>343054249
>they're IN ADDITION to other things that already make the game more less able to punish the player's stupidity and their mistakes
>i'm not going to list those other things though ;)
Also what the fuck is "more less able"? Do you have brain damage?
>>343050582
Haha, so mad! pccucks consider a rendered piece of shit over god-tier games as long as the shit runs at 60fps
Stay mad!
>>343054358
I care because they did nothing with her. It was nothing but wasted potential, much like the rest of the game.
I actually liked some of the other references like the Abyss Watchers(and Aldrich if you count him as a BB reference), and I wish they went further with Demon Ruins and Anor Londo to destroy it beyond recognition, but they didn't.
>>343054494
good job synthesizing all the arguments in the thread into one concise, incorrect post.
>>343054441
>>shares his sunlight spears
That guys is retarded bit to be fair Gwyn didn't have these.
>>343054374
andre is fair criticism.
artorias has an entire legacy and it makes sense that people would want to follow in his footsteps and fight the abyss.
ornstein is a main character who had motivations and goals, learning he died to Nameless was fucking cool.
Again, Gwyndolin was a main character, he's responsible for making Frampt lie to you, and as one of the the last gods of anor londo, it would make sense for him to show up again.
it's a major city in the universe, the home of the gods.
chill out
I replayed DaS2 with SotFS, and the improved enemy placement REALLY improved the game. I'd put it about the same as DaS3 for me personally, at least with PvE
>>343054449
there;s nothing about ds2 that is art
>>343054458
Or complaining about ADP when there is no attack in the game that requires more than 90 AGI outside Chariots Wheel which you shouldn't be trying to roll through in the first place.
>>343054314
How about you show me a better angle friend :)
>>343054494
t. shitter that can't handle more than 1 enemy at once
>>343054556
Okay, so it's Gwyn with one new move.
Technically, it isn't even a new move, lore-wise. Gwyn's always had Sun Spears.
>>343054559
Artorias' legend died with him in the Abyss.
>>343054458
I used repair powder but the weapons having the durability of cheap, made in taiwan plastic toys was just annoying and unnecessary. There's nothing fun about constantly applying repair powder to weapons.
>>343054441
LMAO
you're dumb
gwyn didnt have lightning spears, and his theme song/idle animation has nothing to do with his mechanics as far as fighting is concerned, which is what i said
>>343054559
I felt like the abyss watchers were a deliberate reference to the fact that artorias was such a big hit with edgelord fanboys, which is what the abyss watchers basically were.
>>343054549
underrated
>>343054638
I've only had to repair a weapon once in DaS2, and I played PC version. What are you guys doing, hitting walls? This isn't RE7.
>>343054562
>Iron keep
>Sneeze
>Have the entire samurai brigade boosting towards you
Some locations were made retarded, Like that fucking chariot in the castle.
>>343054629
clearly it didnt?
>tfw you really enjoy DS2 and never understood why everyone thinks it's such a shit game
Looking back now though, I can only really play DS3/BB. Everything else is too slow and aged.
>>343054629
No it didn't you dunce.
>>343054682
i guess we played different games, versions or used completely different weapons
>>343054629
>nuh uh it didnt happen because i say so :)
>>343054708
Because of DaS3 bringing it back for no reason other than references purposes.
>>343054638
The point of durability is to encourage multiple weapons and punish you for sloppy play, like hitting walls. It does have its problems, but breaking should never be a problem with even 2 weapons.
With that said, durability is hard enough to implement properly in a good survival game. None of the Souls games would be worse off with it removed since it was a non-element in 99% of situations.
>>343054701
I liked the new Iron Keep, but yeah the horses were retarded.
>it's a DaS2babbies are upset that their game objectively sucks episode
>>343047656
It's been a common sentiment since the beginning. DS3 was piss poor at everything but graphic design.
I've already collected 240 hours in DS3 and most of it is PvE, I probably wont even touch it until the DLC drops, And then i can only hope that it'll be fucking Grade A material.
>>343054559
>artorias has an entire legacy
What? He was consumed by the Abyss and that was it. The fact that there's an entire cult dedicated around mimicking his combat style when no one should've been alive to witness it is absurd.
>ornstein is a main character
>Again, Gwyndolin was a main character,
Stop.
>it's a major city in the universe, the home of the gods.
Come on now, the way that it comes back is retarded and you know it.
>>343054629
uhh no? artorias actually fucked up and had to have the chosen undead do his work for him, but he got all the credit and was remembered for the player's work.
>>343054769
oh my god you're an idiot
Chester talks about Artorias like he's George Washington, the people of the Souls universe made a monument out of his grave stone
just shut up lol
DS2 > DS1 >> DS3
>>343054416
But in comparison to DaS2, and due to the massive increase in mobility in DaS3, everything is just less punishing.
I played through DaS1 about a month ago, and am playing through DaS2 currently, and they're obvious Risk -> Reward tradeoffs in both games. In DaS3 that feel just doesn't exist. You roll 20 feet and then do a 180 an attack a mob from behind as it goes flailing off into the distance with a combo that lasts far too long, and you can just keep doing that forever. If they ever aren't attacking, most mobs in the game just get stunned and you kill them in a single combo. Nothing costs any Stamina, so you can get away with just doing whatever you want.
>>343054536
Already listed them, but since you can't read and like to treat a typo as some form of argument, here you go:
>Instant Estus
>Estus magically refills
>Bonfires absolutely everywhere
>Roll spam
>Rolls go twice as far as any other Souls game
>Parry window is easier than 2.
>Backstabing is easier because of how broken rolling is.
>Stunlocking most enemies, because fuck poise.
>Nothing costs even remotely enough stamina for it to matter.
>Stamina regenerates incredibly fast after virtually no delay.
I feel like I've spoiled myself with the newer games.
I've tried to play DaS and I just can't get into it. I know its a good game but for some reason I just don't feel like I want to complete it. I boot it up, play for maybe 20 mins then can't be bothered playing any more.
It's kind of annoying since everyone says this is the best Souls game.
>>343054638
>made in taiwan plastic toys was just annoying and unnecessary.
It is necessary though. The goal was get you to carry multiple weapons and probably playstyles to suit the situation. The game was also balanced much better with most weapons being viable to some extent throughout the game. Why would you use a rusty dagger against giant armored dudes?
>There's nothing fun about constantly applying repair powder to weapons.
And there's nothing fun about having a durability system that doesn't affect anything. Why DS3 doesn't just fucking remove it is beyond me.
>>343054823
Noone knew that he was consumed by the Abyss but you, the player.
You finished his legacy, but the credit was given to him.
Artorias is a fraud though
>>343054806
>le objective opinion meme
>le smug face
sorry to ruin your ds1 circlejerk pal
>>343054701
The latter half of Drangleic was just garbage. I can understand why there'd be many enemy types for lore reasons, but they did nothing interesting with any of the new enemies they added.
The first half of Drangleic was much better though. Stone statues were done much better, and it's cool as fuck how they don't activate if you have the King Ring equipped.
>>343054701
The chariot in the castle isn't that dumb when you realize it could've wandered up from much lower down in the stables or something.
You should be complaining about why there are Alonne Knights in Drangleic Castle.
>>343054823
He was the in-game representation of the main character of the series that Dark Souls is based on. That's where all the boners come from.
>>343054718
I'm the opposite, I can only play 1 and 2 now because 3 feels like shallow dumbed down piece of shit because the combat degenerated to boring R1 spam stunlocking because of extremely fast stamina regen, lack of poise and everything being too fast
QUESTION
Is Ring of Steel Protection worth it in PvP if my absorption is around 15% without it?
I've heard all of the shit about how it is worthless but that is usually for medium-heavy builds.
>>343054914
>Backstabing is easier
Welp, no one is going to take you seriously now
>>343054745
PC had their durabillity halved because it tied to frame rate, it was more likely for a PC player to break their weapon than a console pleb.
I used primarily twin blades. The only weapon that ever dropped down low enough to need repair powder on me was Mastadon Halberd but thats because I autstically wanted to clear all of Tseldora
DeS > DaS = BB > DaS3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eu'yro waifu >DaS2
>>343054823
The reason Anor Londos return was fucking retarded was because half of it was just GONE
>Oh wow remember this iconic hall way?
>Ho boy remember the giant? he sure was swell
>The other half of the elevator isnt even there
>Can't see the old entrance to archives even when it was embedded into the mountain SO THERE'S NO REASON FOR IT NOT TO BE THERE
>Someone just Built a new tower next to the elevator so they could imprison some dragon bitch
>Someone built an entire city connecting to Gwyndolins old chamber because whythefucknot
People who defend Anor Londos return are retarded
>>343055057
>das3 better than das2
ha ha MEMES
>>343054914
>>Bonfires absolutely everywhere
HOLY FUCK THIS
Everyone was complaining about it in DaS2 and I have no idea why it suddenly gets a pass in DaS3.
>>343055049
The combination of mobility makes it retardedly easy, despite it being more difficult than other games in the series.
>>343055091
>The reason Anor Londos return was fucking retarded was because half of it was just GONE
Time flows strangely in Lothric :^)
>>343055114
>le contrarian DaS2 is not total shit meem
:^)
>Kill Wolnir
>Bonfire appears
>okay
>walk out of boss room
>Bonfire infront of bridge
>???
>cross bridge
>Bonfire on other side of bridge
WHAT THE FUCK
>>343055148
>it's easier, despite being more difficult
>>343055148
>The combination of mobility
did you intend to put something extra on there, or do you actually think that makes grammatical sense?
>>343054928
DS1 is a great Souls game but it's not the best. Demon's Souls still is but that game died along with the PS3. In my personal opinion, 2 was easily the best of the Dark Souls series. 3 tried to copy it but ultimately forgot to and instead just started making everything look pretty.
>>343054745
he probably died a lot and thus always had a near topped up weapon. It's almost impossible to clear certain areas in one go without having to use a powder or two.
>>343055206
have the demons souls servers finally been closed now?
>>343047656
Nah, das1 was worse than das3
Bb > des > Das3 > das1 > das2
>>343055049
He's right though. In DS3, you can just walk around to the backs of enemies to get your backstab in. In DS2, you had to line up after a dodge or a stagger. The enemy design did not allow for at-will backstabbing. In fact, casuals literally cried about and claimed that the enemy tracking was unfair and they felt that back stabbing should be something the player should have to "work" for.
You fucks that rate DeS last just havnt ever played it. If you havnt played it leave it out of your list
>>343055206
I actually agree, except for the part about DS3 trying to copy DS2. It's nothing like it honestly, it's more like an off-brand Bloodborne in a DS1 skin than anything.
>>343054994
>it could've wandered up from much lower down in the stables or something.
>A two headed undead black magic horse just hung out in their stables
>Decided to talk walk up MANY flights of stairs
>Couldnt climb the ladder or open the gate so it must've taken the elevator
That's dumb.
You're dumb.
>>343055194
Heard you like check points between your checkpoints, so we put a checkpoint inbetween those checkpoints
>>343052692
I keked.
>>343055339
theres not even a need for back stabbing when you could cheese every enemy in 2 by circle strafing like a dumbass
>>343055196
Backstabbing on it's own would be harder, because the way it's handled in 3 makes it that way.
But since you can just roll around like Sonic, it doesn't matter and it ends up being just as, if no easier than, every other entry to pull off.
How is that hard to understand?
>>343055202
It's fine. This isn't a fucking college literature class and English isn't my first language anyway, but here you go:
>The combination of mobility and all the other shit I've listed makes it easier.
But keep arguing grammar, instead of trying to actually talk about the point.
>>343055339
>he
In DaS you could literally backstab them immediately after they got up, so I'm not sure how you could consider anything "easier" than that.
>>343054562
I like DS2, but fuck SotFS Iron Keep. Having to wade through 15 sanic speed katana faggots to get to smelter is the only thing that makes me reconsider playing through NG+2.
Not to mention the area after smelter, but at least there's another bonfire before OIK.DS=DS2>DS3
>>343055194
Wolnir bonfire is quickest to demon ruins.
1st Boreal bonfire is where you fight croco-stimpy.
2nd Boreal Bonfire is where the area begins.
>>343055308
Nope. I played it for the first time about a month ago and got a fair few Old Monk summons, as well as someone else summoning for me. Someone also used my sign at the start of 3-3 when I had it down, but we only fought the NPC.
>>343055423
>How is that hard to understand?
Might have something to do with you being incapable of composing a thought without stumbling over every other word like a fucking lobotomy patient
DS2:
>Individual levels are usaully short and themeparky and a bit linear
>World is inconsistent
These are all true a definite cons but the game does play itself of as being more of a dark but whimsical fairy tale rather than the more mythiological feel of DS1 and 3
>Exploring the world is rewarding and gives you many intresting items
>World design is more open
>Doesn't punish the player for exploring paths out of order
>Covenants are intressting for the most part
>PvP is fun even though soul memory was a stupid idea and only made twinking worse while otherwise forcing you to keep going up the level tiers untill you're at the stage where everyone has everything.
>Combat is more strategic with rolls having reasonable stamina cost and at decent agility they have a balanced amount of i-frames
>Adaptability is a must have stat that doesn't bring anything to the game other than pushing the level cap up and make the start much slower
>Healing items are slow and punishable and are overall well balanced for more strategic thoughtful play
>Poise is well balanced
>Different paths and builds offer a great variety and replayability and the unique ng+ system with bonfire ascetic was a great system
>Game looks worse than DS1 at this point
>Great weapon and armour variety
>>343055379
It copied the weapon abilities, the progressive trader, the upgrade system, the bonfire warping and the invasion system. You're right about everything else though. They failed to bring over meaningful npcs, covenants, stats that made sense, weaponry, animations and the difficulty.
>>343055517
sweet
BB > DS1 > DeS > DS3 > DS2
>>343055562
DS3:
>World is consistent
>Level design is great and open with some fresh zones wich are great and some that feels copy pasted from other games
>Exploring the world is fun at first due to open levels but the rewards for looking everywhere is abyssmal at most you will get a few more titanite that you're already swimming in
>World design is extremely linear with only a few branches
>The game will punish you for playing the game out of order by failing all quest
>The covenants are extremely poorly thought out with only five archetypes in which three are extremely limited in scope: zone defense, blue summon and blue summoner
>PvP is dull with invasions being the worst they've ever been
The poor PvP does not only come from only invading gank squads, in fact i wish the other games in the series had a better way to match against multiple opponets. the problems with gank squads is in the core combat of the game, the players offensive abilities are balanced in a normal Dark Souls fashion but their defenses are balanced to counter the enemies of the game which have bloodbourne level offensive abilities. Resulting in PvP that comes down too parry baiting and slow pace.
>Rolling doesn't cost nearly enough stamina and has way too many i-frames
>No adaptability
>Healing items are instant heals and are completely unpunishable except for bosses who will use the window when you're not rolling to combo you
>Poise works well for the enemies in the game but does nothing on the player shattering the illusion of being something other than a edgy assasin when your fully armoured dude gets slapped and staggered by a thin hollow
Overall this might seem bad on paper but does make for a good singleplayer experience but PvP really suffers from and therefor the replayability
>Poor replayability with a lot of builds feeling very samey due to poise, weapon variety, balance issues etc.
>Game looks great
>Good weapon and armour variety with only some balance issues
>>343055605
>DS1 > DeS > DS3
How can you say DaS and DeS are better than DaS3 when they have vastly inferior gameplay? Easy parries and constant chain backstabs galore. They might have better everything else but gameplay remains the most important aspect of a game.
>>343055567
you realize almost everything you listed was also in 1?
>>343055419
>you could cheese every enemy in 2 by circle strafing like a dumbass
Immediately proving you know nothing. That was the entire point of the post. DS2 did not allow circle strafing for backstabs. It was the source of a LOT casual butthurt and if you weren't such a poser, you would know this. The enemy tracking was 1:1 with the player. Circle strafing was literally not possible on humanoid enemies.
The linearity and piss filter really hurt it.
Little replay value because you can't do any real sequence breaking, and need to play through the whole game again if you just want a few pieces of equipment for a new character.
And the piss filter just turns many areas that could be beautiful ugly. Hopefully there will be mods to fix this.
>>343055426
The comparison was with DS2, chief.
![1,width=500,height=500,appearanceId=2,version=1460096327[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/iPBZyvm.png "1,width=500,height=500,appearanceId=2,version=1460096327[2]")
DS>BB>DS3>DeS>>>Ninja Blade>DS2
>>343055382
>>Decided to talk walk up MANY flights of stairs
Pretty sure Drangleic Castle has functioning elevators.
No more ridiculous than all of the Titanite/Capra demons wandering around everywhere.
>>343055691
The was no power stance and weapon abilities were relegated to what - 2 weapons? What are you even talking about?
>>343055749
Oh, I forgot:
>covenants are shit
>character quests are stupidly easy to miss/fail
I like the game overall; the areas themselves are well-designed and sprawling and the world is coherent and nicely crafted, but all these flaws sap the long-term motivation out of it.
>>343055521
It warms my heart knowing that you'd rather bitch about grammar on the internet, as if it holds some weight in a conversation, since you can't think up anything else to refute what I've said.
>>343055382
The horsey is stupid but if you really wanted a logical reason, there are closed doors at a few points in the castle. You could easily assume they got there through them.
>people who think Bloodborne is part of the Dark Souls series
I guess these would be the hispanic posters.
>>343055823
I wouldn't consider power stance a weapon ability, but there are more than two with a special ability, they were more prevalent in 2 and they all got one in 3, but weapons in 1 with special abilities include: golem axe, ornstein's spear, havel's shield, ring shield, stone greatsword, and of course the moonlight greatsword
>>343055686
>responding to obvious bait
>>343047656
in terms of pve (didn't pvp much)
das 1 > bloodborne > des > das 3 > das 2
>>343047656
Rank in terms of matchmaking:
DaS2 > BB > DeS = DaS > DaS3
>>343053758
A Dark Souls sequel should never have been about answering the questions to a previous game. DaS2 did it right.
>>343055808
Titanite demons are excusable to be everywhere because they're the Colorless Demons/Crystal Beasts of DS1, Large enemies spread around that net material needed for boss weapons.
Chariot was just a boss that was copy pasted into a new location.
One of my biggest problems with Dark Souls 3 was how much fucking pandering and fan service went on.
If you want to reuse series staples like Patches or MLGS, sure.
If you want to allude to past characters like with Irina and Eygon, sure.
If you want to straight out pander like with Siegwhatever haha epic he gets into trouble and goes hmm hmm then you help him haha remember that? What about Anor Londo, remember that? Remember those archers? Well now there's even more it'll be epic. When that happens it's not at all acceptable.
I also don't like how poorly balanced the weapons are. A max level FUGS only has about 60 more damage than a max level Ricard's, and the Ricard's comes with a much better move set and attacks significantly faster and costs significantly less stamina.
Another problem is Luck, basically useless, the item find you get from 99 luck is less than the item find from the golden jew ring.
My final and biggest gripe with the game is rusted gold coins.
>>343055628
Don't forget:
>Total of 15 Estus, of which you can get 10 easily before Abyss Watchers
>Magic users gimped over melee because to keep using spells you need to allocate some ashen estus
>Any form of magic is turned from managing spell uses into repeatedly using your best spell over and over topping up FP using one of your 15 potential estus flasks
>Miracles are even worse than DS2, now do no damage in addition to being costly as fuck
>Bleed is OP, Poison is useless
>Tons of weapons now cannot be infused
>Some infused weapons cannot be buffed (crystal weapons can't be buffed, meaning the magic damage is perpetually shit)
>Hornet Ring repostes mean any large weapon only needs to get off one parry to win in PvP
>>343047656
actual objectively correct rating
whatever game in the series you played first > whatever game after that represented the biggest change in gameplay, graphics, theme or mechanics after that you played first > whatever game of the trio (des / bloodborne / das) is now left over > other das game > third das game
>>343049306
This, without the bloodborne engine the series is complete shit
>>343056115
A Dark Souls sequel shouldn't have existed in the first place. DS1 was perfectly fine being standalone.
With that said, I prefer DS2's approach to a sequel over DS3's. I feel that the universe as a whole and fire should be the focus of the series, not Lordran specifically.
>>343047656
keep in mind that DLC is not yet out. if the other games are any indication, it has quite the potential to be massively better in terms of quality than the rest of the game and can uplift it entirely.
>>343055951
>>343055808
Notice how it says THE CharioT
Not chariots, singular
There was only one, Makes no sense for there to be a second one
BB > DS3 = DS > DS2
fight me niggers
>wanna get all cheevos
>rings and spells behind covenant ranks
>every invasion is a gankfest
>seed of giant
>my estus is halved
and just when i thought it couldnt get worse, i find out some people summon reds to help them instead of whites, to make it less likely i get help against ganks
How the fuck am i supposed to do this?
>mfw the souls meme is finally dead and nobody wants anymore souls
>>343056346
yeah because if I say, "hey, bring me a slice of THE pizza", then clearly I'm stating that it's the only pizza in existence.
I only played each of these games once, so I wasnt burned out by the time I got to Dark Souls 3. Because of that, I ended up liking it a lot more than DS1 and Bloodborne. Demon's Souls had the novelty of being the first one that I played and also had my favorite world design, but I'm sure if I went back to it now I'd have a really hard time. Say what you will about my taste but the second half of DS1 is a fucking slog and I didn't care for Bloodborne nearly as much as I thought I would.
I'd rank them DeS > DS3 > DS1 > BB > DS2
>>343056410
At least you can level up covenants offline, albeit a little bit grindy unlike in DaSII
>>343047656
DeS>DaS>DaS2>DaS3>BB
You fuckers probably enjoyed all of them at least a little bit, there, i ultimatum'd the thread
>>343056071
Power stance got conflated into mandatory dual wield weapons in DS3, and it did, indeed, open up new/hidden weapon abilities. Also there was no progressive trader that sold boss/hidden armors after boss kills/special events and DS1. In DS2 there were many, MANY weapon abilities some of which were augmented or only accessible through power stance. Equipping a Bone Fist with a Cestus combo entirely changed the way the combat worked. This is not something DS1 nor DS3 even attempted.
>>343056420
PCucks do. They only played three, and one of them was DaS2, so they've literally only played two good Souls games out of 5. Kek.
>platinum memeon souls
>platinum meme souls
>platinum memeborne
>platinum meme souls 3
>gave up on dark souls 2 after 2 playthroughs, didn't even finish new game
Why is ds2 so shit?
>>343056139
>What about Anor Londo, remember that? Remember those archers?
I hated that shit. I have no problem with the notion of Anor Londo being in the game by itself, and I liked the plot with Sillyman and Aldrich fucking shit up over there.
However, the actual design of the area is cancerous garbage. It's literally just Greatbow Silver Knights on rooftops dude remember that part with the archers where they knock you off lmao and then O&S bossroom. They basically made Anor Londo: memes edition and went out of their way to avoid any attempt to expand or give us a new perspective on the place. It's a fucking shame really, because deep corrupted Anor Londo would have been decent material to work with, provided you leave memes aside for one moment and try to deliver an actually interesting level.
>>343056430
>Food analogy
Please tell me what a creature made only to tormet undeads is doing in dranleic castle, Please defend this stupid enemy location.
>>343055980
>people who think Demon's Souls is part of the Dark Souls series
>>343056125
>Titanite demons are excusable
Not excusable, at least not anymore than the Chariot. Both enemies could've wandered all over the world and they did.
>>343056346
The soul is referencing the Executioner though. There could've been hundreds of demonic horsies.
>>343056489
>Also there was no progressive trader that sold boss/hidden armors after boss kills/special events and DS1
Uh. Yes. Yes, there is. The dude that sits in the bridge outside of Firelink Shrine.
Uninformed dumbass.
>>343056489
Personally I feel that the dual-wield weapons in DS3 didn't justify removing power stance. It was a legitimately good mechanic that adds tons of replayability through mixing and matching experiments.
>>343056608
a wizard did it.
>>343056649
The guy who sold 2 armor sets? His own and ornsteins? That's progressive to you. Nice reach.
>>343056139
>Another problem is Luck, basically useless, the item find you get from 99 luck is less than the item find from the golden jew ring.
Some of the most broken builds in the game involve luck.
>>343056584
They didn't even try with Anor Londo. They literally distilled it down to
>Archers
>Giant
>Big Hallway
Literally that's it. Just mindless fanservice.
>>343055562
>mythiological feel of DS1 and 3
There's nothing about DaS3 that feels "mythological" like 1. It literally feels like a generic dark fantasy adventure. Like Path of Exile, sort of.
I can't play it and have tried to watch some Let's Plays but everyone is really bad.
Is there anyone who has a Let's Play of DS3 that's not an insufferable fagatron?
>>343056518
DaS3 is shit though, so they've only got one good Souls game
if DaS3 was made in the same way BB was made, with quickstepping while locked on replacing rolling and generally faster enemies, would it be a better game?
>try to play dark souls 2
>kill all the titty witches into extinction
>get 4 titty robe gloves and 8 rings
>don't get the titty robe top or the titty robe bottom
shit game
>>343056716
Domnhall of Zena:
Gwyndolin's Set
Smough/Orstein Set
Artorias Set
Gwyn Set
Iron Golem Set
(Special items): If a special item previously worn by a unique character is lost while killing them, it will appear in Domnhall's inventory.
Get rekt.
>>343056897
No, DaS games were meant to be about patience, not CUUUHHHRAAAAAAZY dps
>>343056897
it would be top tier if it wasn't so fucking easy to parry, backstab and chain backstab, and add in das3's weapon arts and other neat weapons its got
>>343056897
The further DS3 distances itself from Bloodborne, the better. It was acceptable for BB since it was a spinoff, but the speed doesn't mesh well with the simplicity of the combat.
You can shitpost all you want but DS3 will still be the best, and with DLC incoming it can only become even better.
>>343056937
>Five sets
Aw lawdy! Dats a lot of sets der, nigga! Rekt! Pass da wawda melin!
>>343056643
Are you blind?
>>343056897
>>343057079
*Oops, I thought you were talking about DaS1, my bad.
DaS3 has the best Souls gameplay imo. Its gameplay is deeper than Bloodborne's but that doesn't necessarily means its better. It's down to personal preference.
Personally I think DaS3's gameplay would be absolutely perfect if they slowed down the R1 speed for a lot of weapons, and also made it more balanced for slower strength weapons. Even medium speed weapons like claymore are shit for Dark Souls III PVE. Too many weapons are useless as a result compared to weapons with fast R1s.
>>343057148
das racis
>playing dark souls 1 for the first time
>vanilla patch
>make it to anor londo
>trade my shield to the giant
>get crystal ring shield
>never die to a boss againexcept seathe because she was basically immune to the magic damage
>>343057096
>Well constructed arguements are shitposts
>Two sentences are not
;^)
>>343057273
>Seathe
>she
>>343047656
Can't truly judge it until after the dlc. Irithyll was the highlight, then it was ruined by being a footnote to Anor Londo, Cathedral of the Deep was a rare instance of minimal bonfire design done well, and the scale of Undead Settlement was impressive.
But as is it isn't great, I'm trying to decide if vanilla DaS3 is better than vanilla DaS2, but I've got pretty fond memories of my first run of DaS2, enough to make me want to run through it several times over, with DaS3 I've gone straight back to Bloodborne after one run and some invasions.
Is Dark Souls III already dead and forgotten? Am I just projecting or does nobody seem to care anymore? Is the magic over?
>>343057234
>DaS3 has the best Souls gameplay imo. Its gameplay is deeper
>R1 spam is the deepest gameplay
please, D3 has the most shallow dumbed down gameplay in the entire series
>>343057383
How does he know about trigger discipline if he's not allowed a gun?
>>343057443
He's not american.
>>343054046
>people are defending tracking and thinking it's an okay mechanic to have
Jesus fucking christ.
How can you possibly defend that shit? It's was one of the absolute worst things about DS2. It's just such a cheap tactic and makes NPCs feel like they're cheating you.
>>343057443
Memes.
>>343057443
The British are naturally afraid of the trigger.
>>343057509
>It's not fair! I shouldn't have to dodge an attack just to get an easy kill!
>>343054046
>The NPC outside of chariot that can pull a 180 and hit behind it during a jumping attack
Shit was dumb, You're retarded
>>343047656
>souls-borne
>>343056315
I disagree. Dark Souls has a great universe, mythology and cosmology. It could've stayed standalone, but I definitely liked the fact that it got a sequel.
After all, the gameplay is great and you get to explore the universe more.
Also, it's a theory that Lordran, Drangleic and Lothric are all the same place. I guess it's because time and space are convoluted and shit just gets warped around over time.
But either way, I feel 2 did it best in that it never actively called back to 1, unlike 3.
It was a completely unique world. Of course some stuff was just a bit similar to some 1 stuff, and depending on the way you look at it it makes sense or it doesn't and is just that way for gameplay reasons.
But no Anor Londo or Gwyndolin or Andre or any of that.
Dark Souls as a series should never have went the way of outright telling you "okay, this is what happened in 1." or even asserting that one comes before the other. It wasn't even clear whether 2 was a sequel or a prequel, and the same with 3. But 3 comes out and it outright tells you.
I guess DaS1 HAS to be the first one, because Gwyn is the first Lord of Cinder and no one succeeded him until you come along and perhaps do it.
>>343057603
The thing about tracking is there's a difference between an attack turning towards your direction, And a swing being magnetically pulled to you.
Timing doesnt matter if the swing hitbox is always going to be on top of your character.
I'm tossing up whether or not to get DSIII. I finished DaS and just started DSII this month and I liked/am liking them both. If I did want to get 3 it'd be while it's on sale (and also preferably in the next month or two while it's still alive).
Opinions?I'd play BB if I could but PC so :^)
>>343057434
R1 spam my ass. Enemies don't have infinite stun lock and can start attacking you in the midst of your R1s. Plus you're also often attacked by multiple enemies so you have to deal with them appropriately by playing defensively. They also have many more attacks and are more aggressive than DaS1. Many larger enemies can't even be stunned.
In any event, even R1 spam is still better than DaS1 ez backstabbing and chainbackstabbing which you can reduce 95% of the game to. DaS PVE is fucking broken.
>>343057695
Sorry you have to actually time your rolls instead of just rolling anytime a enemy lifts his weapon :(
>>343057824
Chainbackstabbing absolutely exists in Dark Souls 3 fuckboy.
>>343057721
Get it but since you've already missed the launch race you can afford waiting for sales, DLC and more patches and the online won't die anytime soonProbably, it's pretty shit so it might happen
>>343047656
>Walk in straight line
>Spam R1
Yeah the game was shit
>>343057695
I never experienced and of these issues that I see so many people bitching about. I breezed through all versions DS2 and had a great time each time. I don't know what makes me invulnerable to the kinds of things that eat casuals alive.
>>343057721
There's no reason not to check it out as soon as you feel the itch to play a new Souls game since the DLC is still far off, but I wouldn't suggest marathoning them unless getting burned out isn't a realistic issue for you.
>>343050434
>Dark Souls 2 is just such a fundementally shit game, there's nothing to like about it
I know you have a raging hard boner for it but DaS2 introduced a lot of good things that DaS3 never took with which is a damn shame because the NG+ and Bonfire Ascetics was something From really needed to look into more.
>>343057975
You can just call it bait, it is what it is man. Dark Souls 2 attacks were design hoping the player had some semblance of awareness and skill rather than just rolling anytime an attack animation started.
>>343057941
Do you have the b8 image that shows DS2 as an * but DS3 as a massive tree?
>>343057824
>DS3
>walk to back of enemy and get free backstab
>charge R2 while enemy is getting up
>stagger him as soon as he stands
>walk around for another free backstab if it survives the charge hit
>>343051749
Dude that's not level design, that's purely art style.
Level design is enemy placements, environment design etc. It is purely from a gameplay design standpoint.
>>343057941
DS1 had such a great world.
>>343047656
Is it just me or were the bosses in DS3 absolutely pathetic and babby tier easy?
>>343057941
Wow...
Really makes you think, huh?
>>343058336
It's probably because of your previous experience with the games. Newer players are going to have a much harder time overall since they don't know how to effectively exploit its systems.
>>343057941
What is that side path at the end of DaS2 supposed to be?
>>343057941
I wonder how accurate these are, if they are 1:1 with the locations and all. Design-wise they certainly seem about right.
Anything would've been preferable to what 3 was.
>>343050197
So sick of this being spammed in /dsg/, same image and all.
>>343058406
May have been Aldia's path.
>>343058336
Dark Souls 3 was my first souls game, and I found them to be pretty easy. I only really struggled on Twin Princes until I found out that Camera was purposely bad and can fuck you over, so I started to play unlocked for the remainder of the game.
>>343058387
I'm new to the series and found it to be easy.
Fired up DaS1 on GRD and had a harder time on Kalameet than I ever did on any of the bosses in DaS3. But yeah, different experiences and what not. I guess it make sense that veterans find it easier, but my experience varied.
>>343054146
Cathedral of the deep is great.
>>343058542
best level desu
Is there a site or compilation or anything of people's characters with sliders?
The souls games will never be as good as DS1 was until they get rid of teleportation until end game and bring back the metroidvania world design.
Thanks to bonfire teleports you never feel lost and isolated like you did in Blight town and short cuts always lead from your current location back to the bonfire so your boss sprint is faster. In Dark Souls a shortcut meant getting from Firelink to Andre quickly. In DS2 and DS3 a shortcut just makes your linear progression a little quicker and always invalidates the last shortcut, which itself will be invalidated by the next bonfire.
>>343058835
its in /dsg/'s op
we make qtp2ts all the time
>>343058859
It's a casual series now, lets hope memeyazaki's next IP isn't as shit.
Lmao it's easily the best in the series (although I haven't played BB)
Ds3 > Ds1 >Ds2 > demons souls
>>343058336
Don't listen to shitters tell you that your experience made them easy. The bosses were an absolute joke. Dancer and Champion Gundyr are meme hard and have predictable attack patterns, Twin Princes is primarily hard due to the shitty camera, and the Nameless King is kind of hard, the only boss that takes any real trial and error. I like the game for what it is but the only real replayability lies in PvP or DLC.
>>343058859
This. DaS1 may have been choppy without a PC with high specs at forced 60 FPS but the world is easily the best out of any Souls.
>>343058859
The most ridiculous example of this is in Grand Archives in 3 where there are like 2 lifts next to each other at the base. One goes up to the mid-level, the other one to the top-level. As soon as you find the second one the first one is completely irrelevant forever. It's just the most transparent instance of it I remember. Even when I played it I was a bit fucked off by it.
>>343058336
Honestly I probably died in DaS3 the most. I don't know how it's supposedly the easiest. I played Mercenary though and I've seen people who played Knight characters have a way easier time, taking way less damage and shit.
>>343059502
Classes don't really matter since you can find a 100% shield and the ASS very close to each other in Lothric, both of which can easily carry you through the entire game.
>>343052129
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10609067
>all these DkS2 shitters getting absolutely BTFO
>>343059502
Did you use shields a lot? DS1 and 2 are probably easier if you rely mainly on your shield while people more used to rolling will definantly have an easier time in ds3 and any other game
>>343059650
>literally less than 50 votes
>>343057148
O&S are two. Plus Domnhall's own which makes seven.
>seven all unique boss/npc sets
vs
>two starting sets, two non rusty enemy set, set from first game, two unique sets, seven boss sets
So not a massive difference like you make out.
Bravo
>>343059660
No, I used twinswords and rolling almost exclusively. But I got very easily rekt by everything if I got hit just once because I either got stunlocked or a second hit would just kill me.
I feel I would've done better in 3 with a shield honestly. Without one, even smaller enemies can just stunlock you forever.
The bosses were generally not that hard though. Abyss Watchers were the hardest of them all. Those took me 25 tries because one hit often meant death. ;_;
>my opinion is this
>no thats wrong my opinion is this
>are you kidding, you have to be retarded to rate <my least favorite game> so high
>DARK SOULS 2 IS SHIT! S H I T !!!!!
>I HEARD YOU PCUUCKS TALKING ABOUT BB ILL HAVE YOU KNOW ITS THE BEST SOULS GAME TO EVER EXIST THANK YOU VERY MUCH PRAISE MIYAZAKI PRAISE SONY
>fuck off sonyfag
>DARK SOULS 2 IS SHIT! S H I T !!!!!
>sourgrapes.jpg
>DARK SOULS 2 IS SHIT! S H I T !!!!!
>baitfish.avi
>DARK SOULS 2 IS SHIT! S H I T !!!!!
>fuck off retard
>WHAT ARE YOU A CONTRARIAN REDDITOR KEK?? LIKING DAS2???
>DaS3 was a pretty weak game it's weakness are <detailed analysis of weakenesses>
>THATS JUST BECAUSE YOURE A SERIES VETERAN ITS A GOOD GAME
>DAS 2 IS BAD!!
>strawpoll.mp3
every thread
I just started II after finishing DaS. If I'm going to buy III (which is pretty likely) I'd want it to be while it's on sale. Should I yolo it?
>>343060610
its not that great, but if youre going to play it get it while its on sale or pirate
>>343060610
It is a great game, but not quite as good as the others.
It'll surely be on sale again come autumn and/or winter sales, but if you can't wait that long, I guess you'll have to go for it now.
>>343060824
>its not that great
>>343061484
>It is a great game,
? ? ? ?
>>343061561
>pirate
>play for a bit
>purchase if you enjoy it
>>343060610
It's good for a first playthrough, but has less replayability than the other souls games.
Make of that what you will.
>>343057695
So you're bitching that you have to actually time a roll instead of just rolling to saftey whenever you feel like it? Well ok then.
>>343061561
Well, it's great, because Souls is always great! But it's by no means the best one.
You have played Dark Souls 2 for a FUCKTON more time than you have played 3.
Don't even try to hide it.
>>343064409
>DS2 was released 2 years ago
>DS3 was released 4 months ago
Wow i wonder why.
Whats with the shit talking DeS gets? Its freaking great. Now some of the bosses arnt super hard but they are all fun and the storytelling is actually some of the strongest in the series. Not to mention that DaS mimics a ton of DeS stuff and the other games all hearken back to DaS.
>>343065180
Disregard anyone who says it's the worst Souls game. They've never played it.
>>343050197
Dark Souls has the worst bosses. Not Dark Souls 2.
Minus the DLC and OandS + maybe Sif most bosses in Dark Souls are either mediocre or shit.
>its a ''DS2 is shit because a brony youtuber told me that'' episode
>>343064409
DS1 500 hours across the ps3+pc
DS2 100 hours on the ps3
DS3 350 hours on the pc
I prefer Dark Souls 2 to all of them. It wasn't like Dark Souls with trying to be the le hardest game ever, it was a good balance, fair streamlining, and the greatest variety in builds and armor/weaponsets.
It had plenty of secrets, and the DLC content was amazing as well, seeking the keys alone was pretty rewarding.
Dark Souls 3 was a little too sick dark, this is the end stuff. Which was cool I guess, but I don't know. It didn't grab me like either of the others, but Scholar of the First Sin grabbed me the most.
BB = DS3 > DS1 > DS2 > DeS
>>343068746
>sickdark
californian spotted
>>343048396
A better list.
BB = DS3 = DS > DeS > DS2
Dark Souls 2 is Demon's Souls 2
>>343054454
Because this board is now populated with babies wanting to shit-fling for no reason as well the fact that there's the camps that have unconditional love for X Souls game more than this or that.
And that's why hate coming to this board.
