Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that this game was the weakest in all of the souls-borne series?
>>343047656
You'll get a lot of shitposters, but yeah I agree.
DaS III is the weakest souls game to date.
>>343047759
i think you mean demons souls
Dark Souls is the only series that I think stayed flat through the series. Every improvement they made had an equal shit move.
DS > BB = DeS >> DS2 >= DS3
2 and 3 are the weakest by a wide margin but the DLC props the second on up a bit. Hopefully 3 will do the same.
>>343047656
No.
>>343048396
BB over DeS just screams fanboy desu.
>>343048959
Are you clinically retarded?
No doubt. It's just a really, really boring game. I can't imagine how people have already played it multiple times.
DS1 = BB > DS3 > DeS
DS2 not worth ranking with the rest
>>343049094
Proving my point.
No, it's the best one.
>>343047656
>Now that the dust has settled
We can agree that DaS 2 shills are some of the saddest people around.
It might a while, but ultimately people will realize that it'sactually the best one
>>343049241
DeS and BB are equal, though.
My personal opinion isDaS1 > DaS 2 > BB > DeS > DaS3
And i don't care for anyone else's opinions on my opinion.
I found Demon's Souls the weakest. Few choices for weapons and armor. Only a couple memorable bosses. Just because it's the first doesn't mean it's the best.
>>343049461
>Just because it's the first doesn't mean it's the best.
No that's exactly what it means. Everything it does badly doesn't count because it was first. Everything that the later one do better doesn't count either because those came later.
Yes. But all can be forgiven by the awesome character creation.
Super girly boys wielding fuckhuge weapons?
Yes please
>>343047656
Sorry my Friend but here it is.
DaS3>DaS2>DaS>Demon Souls
I didn't play BB so thats out of the List. Don't get me wrong now. I love Demon Souls, that just shows how strong the whole series is. I fiind that every game is an improvement to the last one. Yeah...Sure they all have flaws, but i don't care. I love them all.
>>343049448
Still a shit opinion, there's no denying that pal.
>tfw no remastered definite Dark Souls 1 where Izalith and Demon Ruins are remade to be what they were planned to be and not half-assed rushed content because of bamco
Despite these two areas, DaS is still the best souls game
DaS3 tried to hard to be BB without taking to account what made BB good.
>>343049741
>DaS3 tried to hard to be BB without taking to account what made BB good.
I doubt even you know.
>>343047656
Heres your (you)
What? DaS3 is a mechanical step up and had some fantastic pvp.
The progression could have been more open and they could have made the areas a bit longer. My only complaints.
>>343049823
Souls was always about it's methodical and tactical approach to encounters
BB was about GOTTA GO FAST.
No, 2 is worse, fuck you
>>343047656
I don't know man. 3s the least broken upon release and pretty much every area is solid(though people tend to hate the swamp).
>>343047656
BB = Des = Dark 1 = Dark 2 = Dark 3
They're all good, stop wasting your life arguing which one of these good games is "the goodest" like jesus, stop making these threads every single fucking day
BB > DaS = DeS > DaS3 > DaS2
I doubt this will change even with DLC for 3, 3's problems are on a fundamental level whereas BB was just lacking content
>>343049695
Says the guy that thinks HIS opinion is the best.
Every single installment is pretty much just a reskin with some mechanics tweaked around, if each sequel was as large a departure from the rest as BB was it wouldn't feel so stale. After getting the plat in every game in the series and amassing >1k hours across all of them, no shit it gets boring since they largely play the same each time. I did enjoy DkS3 PvP the most and BB PvP the least, BB PvE on the other hand is tied in first place with DkS1 for me.
DkS1 = DeS = BB DLC > BB = DkS3 > DkS2 DLC >>> DkS2
>>343048959
why?
>>343049652
> >Demon Souls
>DS last
this is summer, look at it, point at it and laugh at it.
>>343049997
>das2 bad
and opinion discarded
>>343050023
>you're not allowed to have an opinion that doesn't instantly agree with my opinion le opinion le discarded
>>343049913
I literally fell through floors and elevators in DaS3 and enemies spawned in walls or disappeared into them at times too.
DaS3 was the MOST broken Souls game on release, at least from my experience.
How could it be the weakest if it removed the abomination of Soul Memory? It's not the best though.
MASTER RACE POWER RANKING INCOMING
DS1 = BB > DeS > DS3 > DS2
>>343050063
i have never seen any of that except for the teleporting dog shit
>>343049652
>sure they have flaws but I don't care
And that's why your opinion is garbage.
Never played a souls game. Are the online features worth it or should I just pirate it (the first one)
>>343049913
>3's the least broken on release
nigger the poise stat still doesn't work
least broken were BB and DeS, DaS was the most broken, then OK when patched, then broken again when dark magic was introduced and no nerfs
>>343050056
>you're only allowed to agree with the opinion that my peers agree on aka /v/
>>343047656
>>343047759
>>343048396
>>343049448
you guys are just fatigued. 5 games that play largely the same in the span of like 6 years. its tough not to get bored
>>343047656
Ranking of the SOULS games based on what they have or don’t have compared to the other titles
Das3 > Das1 > Des > Das2
Das3
Pros:
>weapon arts, best gameplay
>best bosses, bosses with two phases
>boss music changes with the phases
>blood splatter
>offers different interpretations to the lore
>DLC’s will only make it better
Cons:
>worst poise
>worst covenants
>able to summon people at any level with a password
Dark Souls
Pros:
>best characters
>best music
>best poise
>best covenants
>best DLC (as of now)
Cons:
>need a mod to play properly
>too many bosses that turn into normal enemies
>worst aesthetic
Demon’s Souls
Pros:
>best aesthetic
>best enemies
>best level design
Cons:
>30 fps
>can only be played on a 7th gen console
>world tendency
Das2
Pros:
>power stance and offhand moveset
>best NG+
>bonfire ascetics
Cons:
>worst control
>worst bosses
>worst level design
>enemies with tracking
>charged for a complete edition with separate servers
>weapons degrade faster when played at 60 fps
>SOUL MEMORY
>>343050023
you stupid ds2 apologists literally only showed up after ds3 released, before that everyone was shitting on it constantly and it was unanimously considered the weakest game in the series
DS > DS3 > DeS > DS2
Haven't played BB, but probably should given I haven't used a shield in my last four playthroughs. After DS3 I'm not as worried about it being shorter either because a few quality levels and bosses are significantly better than clones.
>>343050063
>DaS3 was the MOST broken Souls game on release, at least from my experience.
I doubt you played the other games on release then.
>>343047656
Absolutely.
DeS>BB>DaS2>DaS>DaS3
>>343050151
>nigger the poise stat still doesn't work
It works as intended :^)
Durability on the other hand...
>>343050063
>lost izalith on release
>shrine of amana on release
>>343050213
BB is the longest souls game if you do the non-random chalice dungeons
>>343050197
I agree with pretty much all of this
why is password summoning a con, though? twinks?
>>343047656
DaS2 and DeS are worse
Dark Souls 2 is just such a fundementally shit game, there's nothing to like about it, it physically feels bad to play. It's like Bamco just took a massive turdy dump on the collective Souls playerbase all at once.
>>343050317
>DaS1 on release
>TwoP + crystal shield
>fog ring
>scaling was useless so get lightning zweihander and dump stats into vit/end
>>343050206
>nobody liked das2 until das 3 came out
Nobody is this retarded anon
>>343050285
>DeS and BB
>best ones
maybe if they were available on pc so you can get playable fps
>>343050502
(you)
>>343050125
Nope. Not really. Everything has flaws you dumb shit. Whichever you think is the best still has flaws.
>>343050434
Console limitations
Bamco rushing the team
Game scrapped halfway through development because of said limitations
Team forced to reuse assets because Bamco wanted the game out NOW.
What a disaster. Funny that it's better than DaS3.
>>343050535
enjoy your 20 fps powerpoints faggot
>>343050238
>>343050317
Well I did!
Though to be fair maybe DeS got fixes by the time it released in EU, and for DaS1 I got PtDE anyway.
DaS2 was fine though. But I was probably not fast enough to get to Shrine of Amana in time for bugs.
>>343050582
(you)
>>343050016
>le summer, look at me how hip I am.
Dumb fuck.
BB = DeS > DaS > DaS3 > DaS2
Bloodborne could have been the best if the invasions system wasn't so bad and gems weren't Korean grind fest tier.Also if there was something similar to Old Monk.
>>343050585
>DaS2 was fine
>climax/great resonant soul OHKOing
>miracles in general being broken
ayy lmao
>>343050434
>no torch
I know the game got downgraded but that's a stupid comparison as it didn't even try to match the original
>>343047656
>mods still allow threads like these
come on
A good dlc can save it
>>343050748
>>343050748
The console version didn't even need the torch is the thing, it was still pretty well lit. In the demo it was pitch black and required a torch to see anything.
>always liked das2 despite /v/'s shitposting and "hurr durr hiveminding"
>suddenly more people like das2 after das3 was a disaster
>get called contrarian even though i enjoyed it to begin with
faggots
>>343047656
Depends on what you're grading it with.
Over all? No the weakest is still DaS2.
>>343050878
not him, I was hyped as hell for dark souls 2 and when I saw the demo I was almost as wet as when I fought Artorias for the first time. Then the actual game and well, you know
>>343047656
Haven't played it yet but what I hate about the series is as it went on they stopped having interesting bosses and instead they started becoming these huge humanoid bosses instead. This shit got really old in 2.
DeS bosses were so fun because they had a zelda like feel to them that the series pretty much completely abandoned after DeS.
2 > 1 > 3
>>343051072
Star Wars
>>343051012
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
>>343049956
Your words fall on mostly deaf ears, anon, but goddamn I'm glad I'm not alone. I've loved every souls game I've played and I'm really loving Bloodborne. I'm sure I'll love Dark Souls 3, and probably whatever new IP Miyazaki is planning now.
>>343047656
DS2 was the weakest by far
>>343050945
>suddenly more people like das2 after das3 was a disaster
>more people like das2
>das3 was a disaster
you're the only faggot here
>>343050434
I remember everyone being so convinced that the pre release videos graphics were going to be in the actual game. Don't you niggers act like you thought otherwise. No one predicted that the downgrade would be such a slap in the face. It's probably the worst downgrade in history.
i started playing DS2 on the weekend and i have to say the bosses are easy as fuck
almost everyone i've come across so far i've killed on the first try with a few needing more than 1 try to beat
if anything the regular enemies give me more trouble because some of them have little to no wind up and i cant roll for a good while after i attack (20 adp if that means anything)
DLC can't save DaS3 from being a linear straight line the whole way through.
>>343050197
>Pros:
>>weapon arts, best gameplay
>>best bosses, bosses with two phases
>>blood splatter
>>offers different interpretations to the lore
>>343051340
>thinking that shit would ever run on a PS3 and 360 reliably
lol
>>343051468
>linear=bad
>>343050197
>DaS2 cons:
>worst level design
>not DaS3
ayylmao.
>>343051530
>pretending you were one of the doubters
Almost no one on /v/ was saying otherwise. As I said, nobody could have predicted the downgrade would be that massive. NOBODY
>>343051637
>lost Bastille floating in mid air
>iron keep floating in mid air
>a piece of rubble blocks you from going to Drangleic castle
>none of the locations logically make sense connecting to each other
dumb
No fucking way DaS2 is better than DaS3. If you think this you are out of your goddamn mind
>>343047656
DaS3's gameplay is far superior to both Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1. Those two games' PVEs might as well be broken with how easy it is to constantly parry, backstab and chainbackstab everything.
Whether or not DaS3's gameplay is better than BB's is debateable and boils down to personal preference, but I'd say it's definitely deeper than Bloodborne's gameplay.
Unfortunately DaS3's world is really bland and needed an extra sheen of polish. It also needed to be a lot less linear, don't know how Miyazaki fucked that up.
It's still much better than DaS2, which had an even worse looking world, broken hitbox detection, shitty sludgy feeling unresponsive combat and a bunch of other shit that made it mediocre.
>>343051546
I don't know, man. I was hoping it to at least be as open as DaS2 if not like 1.
Instead it ended up being a big long corridor.
>>343047656
DeS=DaS1=BB>das3>shit>das2
>>343051749
>a corpse holding a key not appearing until you defeat 3 bosses
>corpse isnt even dead, guy still blinking
>door that is already cracked open enough you can slide through
>still have to light 3 flames to pass
>anor londo just being floating in the sky for no reason
okay
>>343051774
>make only three DaSIII characters because that's all you can really make
>make at least twelve DaSII characters because of the build variety and fashion options
>>343051814
i finished archdragon peak before going to carthus
it's not that linear
>>343047656
BB > DaS3 > DaS > DeS > DaS2
>>343051749
That's not level design, you fucking retard.
>>343050197
You forgot about soul vessel in DS2. It's great being able to change your character for a new game and not being stuck in the same build.
>>343051847
gotthard's been following the game just like you
that has nothing to do with level design
what area?
what area?
it's not floating in the sky, what are you talking about?
>>343049865
DaS3's mechanics were garbage. It was like a half-assed DMC with easier bosses, no air combat, and dumbed down combos.
Then there were stats that are just straight up useless or broken.
DaS3 basically dumbed the game down to a typical hack and slash, but without the good hack and slash part.
>>343051937
It's also good in case you fuck up your stat allocation for weapons / spells you wanted to use. Make any mistake in the other games, and it's just fucking game over, hours and hours wasted.
>>343051937
das3 has the same thing
>>343051981
>what area?
>what area?
Did you not play the game?
What other part of the game requires to light 3 flames, you doofus.
>>343051749
>>lost Bastille floating in mid air
You literally go there by ship. You can see the water.
>>iron keep floating in mid air
You just don't see the mountain it is situated on.
>>a piece of rubble blocks you from going to Drangleic castle
dunno, lol
>>none of the locations logically make sense connecting to each other
wrong!
>>343051937
He forgot a lot of things.
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com
Read up all that is DaS II.The game is miles better than any other souls games.Most people simply never truly played the game.
>>343052041
oh, farron keep
how is lighting the three flames bad level design?
>>343047656
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>>343050197
>Based on what they have or don't have.
>A bunch of worthless opinions.
wew
>>343052113
because the door is already open
>>343052113
You actually extinguish them but whatever
>>343051879
How is that even possible? To get to Archdragon Peak you have to be in the Irythill Dungeon which is after Carthus.
>>343047656
I will reserve judgement for when the DLC drops. 2 was pretty weak without the DLC too.
>>343049741
BB = DS > DeS > DS3 >Lords of the fallen > DS2
>>343052165
you can kill Emma, kill the dancer, and then kill Ocieros
>>343051863
Is one of those characters Guts? If so, count me the fuck in.
Nah. Dark souls 2 is the worst.
>>343047656
DS > DS3 = DeS > BB > DS2
>>343052165
>>343052205
oh wait i said carthus, i meant to say i finished archdragon peak before aldrich and yhrom
>>343052163
fuck farron keep
>>343052129
thanks doc
>>343051749
>Rubble blocks you
This has been the case in pretty much all the soulsborne games.
The inability to jump or scale small walls (DeS had some vaulting but not really I think) has impeded more progress than the most dire of enemies.
There's a reason someone like Gilligan made it all the way to the profaned capital.
>>343052205
Let me ask again, maybe I wasn't clear
How do you get to Archdragon Peak without going through Carthus?
Oceiros unlocks Path of Dragon gesture yes, but how do you go to Archdragon Peak when you need to be in Irythill Dungeon to go there.
>>343052353
i goofed
>>343052305
>>343052353
Ayy, you aren't me!
BB > DS > DS3 > lords of the fallen > shit >
> dog shit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manus's shithole > ds2
never played demon souls but its probably still eons better than shit souls 2
>>343049996
No, just that yours is bad.
>what is DS2
Now that the dust as settled and you have something new to complain about, lets all forget about the fucking travesty that was Dark Souls 2
>>343049956
eh, it's the typical "the toy my mommy bought me is shinier than the toy your mommy bought you!" console-warrior shitposter mentality that pervades most video games discussions these days.
>>343050197
>>enemies with tracking
oh fug
play through the games again please
>>343050465
>>DaS1 on release
>>TwoP
*shudders*
I can't believe I forgot those invaders. That was the cheapest shit ever. I just remembered that faggot that invaded me with TWOP and that spell or whatever that made your footsteps soundless. He was dressed aeshetic and fuck and came all quiet in the archives. It felt like rape.
>>343052305
Yeah, fair enough, you can do that, but that's about the only free reign you get in the game.
And the choice you make boils down to whether you do Lothric Castle first or the rest of the game.
In both DaS1 and 2 you have at least 4 paths that you can choose to follow in the beginning.
>>343050197
>this copypasta again
Just fuck off.
>>343052612
*And yeah, he had the fucking 1.00 fog ring on too so I couldn't lock onto him.
YOU HAVE BROUGHT REPRESSED MEMORIES OUT OF ME SIR
>>343052480
>>343052492
>DaS2 was bad
Well meme'd!
After lurking both /v/ and /dsg/ and playing all 5 games, I can conclude that we all can agree that this is the most OBJECTIVELY CORRECT power rankings if we were to order them based on release date.
DeS > DaS > DaS 2 > BB > DaS 3
I remember having a blast with Das2 but still thinking it was the least best souls game
when anons starting to really shit on Das2 to i would get upset and start defending the game
after beating Das3 a few times i went back to see how Das2 aged.
after a few minutes all i could say was, "oh... oh no..."
yeah, Das2 has not aged well
3 at least feels like a proper sequel. 2 feels like a romhack, shit isn't even fun to play
>>343047656
DS2 and 3 were better than 1
>>343049741
>shitty sections of das1 are the publisher's fault
>shitty sections of das2 are the b-team's fault
>>343052804
>shit isn't even fun to play
says you fuckboy
>>343047656
Dark Souls 3 is arguably the better game, but I had a lot more fun with 2.
I hope the DLC fixes this.
>>343052480
Bloodborne went back to a handful of elements removed from Demon's souls; blood vials are basically moon grass that you can't carry 99 of for example.
Demon's Souls also has better endings than the first two Dark Souls games (haven't finished bloodborne or III as of yet.)
majula music makes my ear bleed
>>343052702
In what respect? I played it last week and thought it looked better than DeSIII in some respects.
>>343052832
>publisher rushes development team
>developer has to cut corners due to publisher pressure
>this is somehow the developers fault
I still like it but it is the weakest overall. PvP is completely fucked up in this game, where 2 fucked the world and lore design.
But i'm not implying DaS3 has great world design (oh look another chapel again, and lets not talk about Chalizalith)
>>343051847
>door that is already cracked open enough you can slide through
Are you serious? Farron? Take a look again, moron. There is no gap whatsoever.
>>343052912
i think it looks AND plays the worst
rolling makes you go 2 feet, walking backwards makes you walk slower, walking isn't as precise as the other souls games, etc
after a few minutes i just sadly turned it off
>>343052804
After my second attempt at forcing myself to finish DS2, I'm shortly after getting to the castle and I haven't enjoyed it at all. The bosses were especially disappointing.
I hope at least the DLC is good meme has some truth to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UScsme8didI
>>343052939
Literally every game has had to deal with deadlines, and most of them don't end up half-finished. Blaming the publisher is a shitty fucking scapegoat that miyazaki fags cling to, instead of just admitting that from got lazy and/or was incompetent.
Where do I go after Aldrich? I've been wandering around for a few hours now. Went downstairs and beat Old Demon King but that's a dead end too.
>>343053089
>get deadline
>deadline suddenly halved
>this is poor planning of the developers
-(You)
Sony doesn't rush the team, why does Bamco?
As it stands, I'd barely put DS3 above DS2.
>Completely linear levels and progression, even moreso than DS2
>A lot of the game is brown and yellow piss filter
>Weapon variety just isn't there since long swords/estoc trumps all
>Magic is shit this time around
>PvP is a chore with how much estus each side gets and how it's almost impossible to punish
>Auto summon covenants were broken for months and they STILL don't have an equivalent blue eye orb
>etc.
As good as it is, it just has way too many flaws for me to rate it highly.
>>343053068
>first major problem happens less than a minute into the intro
fucking savage
>>343052939
Every souls game gets cut content, or cuts corners because of From's incompetence.
DaS1 is basically half-finished, and it's the most obviously so.
>>343053067
well if you actually "haven't enjoyed it at all" and aren't just trying to impress everyone with your super-high standards, no, you won't enjoy the rest of it. But it sounds like you might just be a sourpuss.
>>343052912
>looked better
DS3 is my least favorite but DS2 is easily the ugliest game in the series. It's filled to the brim with ugly blocky textures and dull lighting.
>>343053160
It depends entirely on how much you know about the game. There are always some features advertised that don't make it through, but DS2 is the worst if you kept up with the interviews because one of the first things they said was that the world would be the same as DS1, just denser.
>>343052702
I kind of feel the same, but mainly for DaS.
>Start up the game
>Animations and controls feel clunky
>Get bored since enemy AI is shit and every fight revolves around chain backstabbing everything I come across
>Lose all motivation to play once I beat Anor Londo
The magic is gone.
>>343053123
Go to the profaned capital. It's at the end of that swampy area in Irithyll, go past the sewer where you find the excrement ashes and go into the building, eventually you'll find Irithyll dungeon and just go from there.
>>343053136
>deadline is suddenly halved
That's a fucking ridiculous exaggeration. And regardless, you work to make it happen and cut content if you have to, the same as literally every other game ever made.
>>343053147
>most complaints are with pvp
play the game as fantasy rpg you sperglord, quit being obsessed over an extra function of the game that has been from's second thought since demon's souls
>>343052149
its clearly closed, unless you're talking about some back entrance.
>>343053226
>DS2 is the worst if you kept up with the interviews because one of the first things they said was that the world would be the same as DS1, just denser.
And yet DaS2's world feels fine, whereas DaS1's feels blatantly unfinished.
>>343053249
on that topic, am I the only one steamed that the profaned "capital" is just two goddamn buildings?
>>343053035
The walking backwards thing was a good change. Less faggots pirouetting around the shop. And roll distance increases the less encumbered you are.
Things I liked:
>mocapped animations
>armor and weapons sit better on the model
>models don't have pencilnecks
>cloth physics are more realistic and wind seems to affect them more
>water and other liquids would make your clothes damp, at varying levels, depending how deep you waded
>>343053269
But only two of those greentexts were about PvP?
I also forgot to say that the level design was all over the place as well. You have places like Settlement with tons of exploration and side paths, then you have levels like Ithryil which are basically straight lines.
What the fuck.
>>343053297
>DaS2 world is better than DaS1's
Hahaha!
Das > DasIII > Des > DasII > BB
>>343053297
iron keep full of lava takes place up above the skies
DeS = DaS > DaS3 > DaS2
>>343053297
MGSV felt blatantly unfinished. DaS1 justs felt a bit rushed, while still providing a conclusion to the story.
>>343053348
There aren't many places in DaS2 that feel unfinished in my opinion whereas in DaS1 the latter half of the game feels like it never got out of beta.
>>343053249
Alright thanks
>>343053360
>Ash Lake
>>343053360
if that actually affected your enjoyment of the game in any way you are the absolute worst kind of pedant.
>>343053269
Unfortunately, FROM has been thinking about the online features. That's why every game since DeS has been gutted. DS1 took away full orbs for most of the game unless you twinked, DS2 took away full orbs completely and put on Soul Memory, and DS3 and BB actively throw you in 2v1 or 3v1 situations outside of designated invasion zones.
>>343053297
Don't even bother defending DS2s world. It's incoherent and it was made that way due to development troubles rather than any intentional design choices.
objectively the right order
BB = DeS > DaS2 > DaS > DaS3
>>343053360
walking into a painting that's fine though it's just magic bro haha
>>343053402
>yet another person equating world with individual levels
>>343053348
You said that.
>>343053360
Yet it doesn't feel unfinished, like Lost Izalith does. It's a level you can walk through and not say "What the fuck happened here?" other than the "It's in the sky above Earthen Peak!" meme.
If they really wanted to, they could've just put a long-ass hallway after Mytha and it would've been completely fine.
>>343053435
i'm just refuting your point where you said that das2's world feels fine. it clearly isn't
>>343053467
This
>>343052998
>Ladder that doesnt realease till you kill or let a priestess get killed
>stairs to the right that have hip high barricade you can't jump over
LOL
BB>DaS3=DaS>>Das2>>DeS
>>343053303
Most of it is a ruin. We can probably assume most of it crumbled into the pit surrounding it, likely as a result of the profaned flame. I mean go down the stairs where the shooty flame is and across the bridge where you find the rubbish and you can see the giant bridge is broken.
>>343053409
No problem buddy. I had the same problem on my first playthrough
>>343053476
The original Anon was talking about levels though, which is why he said it was unfinished. Maybe you should brush up on your reading comprehension.
Das1 is definitely not as good as bloodborne and was shit in the 2nd half of the game. Won't even bring up how superior it's DLC is too.
Bloodborne was undoubtedly the worst imo
>>343047656
It tries to be too many of the other souls games at once, Bloodborne was its own thing, DS2 was also very unique even if it was very flawed.
>>343053467
How do you come to that conclusion? I can understand liking BB and DeS, but what turned you off from DS3?
>>343047656
I agree 100%. I just didn't enjoy it as much as the others.
>>343053479
>If they really wanted to, they could've just put a long-ass hallway after Mytha and it would've been completely fine.
You and I both know the drones on here would be bitching about that too.
>>343053467
>>343053493
you honestly think Das2 is better than Das3?
you would willingly rather play Das2 to completion than Das3?
>>343053489
>COMPLETELY relocated the goalposts
LOL
Now that the dust has settled, can you suck my cock?
>>343047656
from a technical standpoint excluding SM DS2 has been the series pinnacle of online play and PvP
>>343053584
Not him, but >>343053147
DaS3 just didn't feel that fun for me to play. Maybe I'm just burned out on Souls, but its flaws were very apparent to me.
>>343053578
t.Pcuck
>>343053573
BB's only saving grace is the DLC.
2 boss fights does not make the game suddenly good. (Kos/Ludwig)
>>343053484
In addition to me not being the person you were originally responding to, the point is that the supposed logical placement of locations in the world is an extremely minor detail, especially in a series where unrealistic and impossible geography and architecture are the norm. The iron peak placement bashing stick is literally the weakest argument for dark souls 2 being bad there is, but for some reason people keep trotting it out.
>>343053615
>>343053493
meant for
>>343053485
>>343052053
Look dude, Don't defend Iron Keeps location, You literally go straight up an elevator into a large pool of lava and fortress, Something you can't even see from below.
>>343053068
WHY DO IRISH FAGGOTS SAY TREE INSTEAD OF THREE
WHY CAN'T THEY SAY 'THR'?
FUCK THE IRISH
>>343053547
Then next time say the levels are fine, not the world.
>>343053583
it's a true sequel to 1 where they gave us answers to some questions from dark souls 1 and some new things like lothric and irythil. of course they had to bring back things from the previous games. bloodborne and demons souls were their own thing. dark souls 2 was supposed to be a true sequel like 3 but they butchered it
>>343053147
>Completely linear levels and progression, even moreso than DS2
DaS2 is actually the 2nd least linear only losing to DeS
>>343053646
I wish i had a pc even capable of running a souls game. Instead I have a ps4.
I just didn't enjoy bloodborne that much.
>>343051847
>>door that is already cracked open enough you can slide through
Are you blind? Have you even played the game? There's clearly no way any human could squeeze through that.
BB > DS2 SOTFS > DS1 > DS2 (At release) > DS3
>>343053467
I finally fucking agree.
>>343053592
>You and I both know the drones on here would be bitching about that too.
Probably, since right off the bat at least two NPCs tell you that the kingdom of Drangleic doesn't have a typical geographic layout as a normal kingdom, and that one place seems to suddenly lead to another based on their relation to one another rather than proximity.
>>343053615
>you would willingly rather play Das2 to completion than Das3?
I beat DaS3 once and got bored through the garbage NG+ it has. Everyone loves it because it's by far the easiest of the series, other than cheesing DeS and DaS1.
For all the shit DaS2 gets, I beat that game at least half dozen times over the years, and am playing through it right now with another build I haven't tried before. It's not as bad as everyone on /v/ wants to scream that it is.
Also played through DaS1 3-4 times when it first came out.
>>343053649
The same reason people keep bitching about tracking, multiple enemies, "pile of rubble", humanoid bosses, and "muh shortcuts"
>>343053769
>There's clearly no way any human could squeeze through that.
t.fatfuck
>>343053489
just admit it, you're a complete maroon.
>>343053805
>it's by far the easiest of the series
you really have to be phenomenally retarded and oblivious to your own biases to think this
>>343053402
>Harvest Valley
>Earthen Peak
>Black Gulch
>Shaded Woods
>Drangleic Castle
>not unfinished
I'd rather play through these levels than the latter half of DS1(excluding TotG) because they're not nearly as tedious, but it has a ton of areas that don't feel like they have a reason to exist.
>>343053838
beeeecause they're valid complaints?
>>343053648
Das1 has like what, 2 good bosses in total including dlc which are O&S and Artorias.
>>343053758
Fair point, Lore wise i suppose i support it, But they kept leaning towards bloodborne with some things, Like enemies with 6 hit combos and the whole riposte large enemies aspect was really dumb.
>>343053937
>O&S good
Haha
>>343053838
Dark Souls 2 deserves all of those criticisms aside from multiple enemies, which is only because shitters don't realize that the games specifically put you in unfair situations. It's just bullshit when they try to pin those flaws on DS2 only, when they're often present throughout the whole series.
>>343053578
t. PC
>>343053879
You have to be phenomenally retarded and oblivious, or straight up haven't played the other games to think DaS3 is at all difficult.
Dark Souls games are built on the concept of punshing stupidity and mistakes. Instant Estus, roll spam, huge parry and backstab windows, and stunlocking the majority of the enemies in the game means that's not the case in DaS3.
I'm sorry you found it difficult, but it really wasn't.
>>343053712
I already made it clear I'm not him, but one should be able to garner the meaning when he said 'incomplete'.
>>343053767
Pretty sure DaS is more nonlinear bruh.
>>343047656
This some stale ass shit. Away with you, nigger
>>343053961
Post the ingame image.
>>343053918
>>343053961
Whoops, got them mixed up.
>>343053615
Yes
>>343053918
Bitching about tracking is absolutely not a valid complaint. He even makes the analogy to the Adjudicator fight which was fucking awful specifically because it didn't track you.
DS1>DS2>DS3=DeS
haven't played side step souls
>>343053879
DaS3 isn't hard once you realize it's trying to be BB but constrain you to DS mechanics and adapt accordingly.
>>343053912
The only one out of those I'd say is unfinished is Shaded Woods actually. That area just felt like hot garbage even in SotFS.
>>343053937
quelaag, iron golem, capra, stray demon, manus, lightning manticore thing, sif, gwyn
>Irithyll Dungeon
>more fucking underground sewer shit
This is fucking boring and lazy, chalice dungeons were drab and dull,I am so fucking lost
>>343053578
>better combat
>better level design
>better lore and soundtracks
>more content than the other games
>despite less weapons each have their own multiple unique movesets
Deffo not the worst and was a title that actually brought something new instead of the rehash 3 is.
>>343053994
>huge parry and backstab windows
>stunlocking the majority of the enemies in the game
Wait, are you saying that these are things in DaS3 and NOT in DaS? Is this some shitty bait? You've got it fucking backwards bud
>>343047656
But that's not a picture of Bloodborne
>>343053584
fanservice
>hey guys remember this? ;)
>hey guys remember that? ;)
>hey guys remember him? ;)
>hey guys remember her? ;)
if i could physically punch one game in the face it would be this one
JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP
GOD...
>>343053068
Always nice to watch the parts where he complains about multiple enemies, and he's just getting his shit kicked in because he's completely unable to adapt to a situation, then acts like it's the fault of the game.
How do people take this shitter seriously?
>>343054084
>Finally get to Ithryill Valley
>Everything looks gorgeous and I orgasm
>Actually play through the rest of the levels
What a disappointment. I'm still baffled as to how the level design can nosedive so hard after the really strong and nonlinear layout of stuff like Undead Settlement and Road of Sacrifices.
>>343054117
DS3 was bad but nothing trumps the stupid appearance of Edge Ornstein in DS2
>>343054117
why does a game referencing previous entries in a series make you so irrationally angry?
did you flip out every time they mentioned liberty city in gta 5?
>>343054117
how dare a game that's third in a series that takes place in the same universe mention countries and characters from the previous game
>>343053994
the parry window in das is at least twice as long as the one in das3, as well as being less punishing if you fuck up. sounds like you really haven't played either game so i'm not sure why you're commenting. also idk in what world you think enemies in das3 are easier to stunlock than das. everything in 3 poises through even the heaviest weapons and fucks your shit up if you try to spam.
>>343054117
I thought it was the worst in the series as well, but I figured someone that put BB first would at least appreciate all of the BB style they put in the game.
>>343054172
Yes
>>343054015
>>343054163
I never had a problem with Ornstein since I always thought it was just some dude who worshipped him. It kind of tips you off that it's not the same guy when he starts using hexes for some reason.
>>343054163
rather have edgestein over literally gwyn
