FALLOUT 1
>playing for the first time
>making a Brotherhood of Steel type character
>+Energy Weapons, +Speech, +Science
>+Bruiser, +Good Natured
>that looks pretty balanced
>start game
>immediately rekt by cave rats
>>343046942
If you don't want to fuck things up in fallout 1, you should always at all times check the wiki.
One small thing and you can fuck the whole story up.
>Good natured
>Bruiser
>Energy Weapons
Yeah, a cave full of giant rats would probably fuck up someone who's good natured and only good at energy weapons.
Just run through it unless you really want to XP farm that area.
>>343047054
Shit, really? I was just going to go back and switch Energy Weapons to melee and try knifing them down. But what do you mean about fucking the story up? Like, the game becomes impossible to advance, or I just close certain RP doors, or?
>>343046942
>Energy Weapons
lol
>>343047091
I figured that the +2 Strength and bonus to unarmed damage from Bruiser could help carry me until the Energy weapons started showing up.
Apparently my big-fisted Kung Fu was no match for the rats.
>>343046942
>energy weapons
wew lad
>>343047147
>>343047219
So from these clever witticisms, I assume Energy Weapons are rare and/or shitty in Fallout 1?
>>343047143
No the game will not be impossible but a one mistake can give you a shit ending (bad ending and not the good ending).
>>343046942
How the fuck did you expect to get out of the cave area with no energy weapons nigger?
>>343047143
Unless you run out of time, you cant fuck the story up, litteraly the only thing you have to do is know more or less where the water chip is and from there you are set.
Either you do quests that gives you leads of where it might be, or you rambo it up and explore every town and ask about it, even with 2 or 3 charisma those people can tell you some hints.
>>343047213
You kinda need some weapons too and you probably will need companions to save your ass (>implying Ian wont your shoot your ass) and good armor
>>343046942
>Energy weapons
This is not Bethesda Fallout.
>>343046942
>energy weapons
>not small guns
Anyone who chooses Big or Energy over Small is fucking retard.
>>343047275
It's a goddamn nuclear wasteland. Yes, energy weapons are difficult to obtain.
>>343047275
Nah, they just don't appear much until later on so until then you're going to have a hard time in combat.
>>343047275
>and/or
Yes.
>>343047275
You can get some energy weapons at mid game but are shit. The good ones you get at late game.
You can get them at all times but they are super difficult at low-mid levels.
>>343047315
>>343047331
>>343047308
Great so I obviously need a guide to play this then.
Great game /v/
>>343046942
Did you try the philosophy approach with Stallonian finisher?
>>343047275
thing to remember is nothing is lying around at the end of a cave next to a steamer trunk full of ammo.
>>343047441
It is a great game. You've just never played it, and are a retard regarding the game because of that.git gud faglord
>>343047369
>>343047415
So, these were the constructive answer as to why all the smegma eaters in the thread were snort-laughing and pushing their thick rimmed glasses up their noses at me taking Energy Weapons.
Not viable till late game. Got it. Any other tips for things to avoid investing in?
>>343047441
hahahahahahahaha filthy casual babbys first :DD just go back your Fallboderlandsminecraftout 4 :D
>>343047441
To be fair, when Fallout 1 and 2 came out it was a time when games came with their necessary manuals in the box. So you have to take that into account. If you bought it from GoG it should come with a PDF scan of the manual.
>>343047441
You don't need a guide. We all played without a guide.
>>343046942
>energy weapons
i've never used em, but unless youre already familiar with the games, chances are you won't find a decent energy weapon for a long time
also theyre never really any better than small guns, and their ammo weighs tonnes
theyre super effective against armor but even then, eyeball shots with the hunting rifle, .223 pistol, FN FAL, gauss rifle/pistol(fallout 2 only) are just as effective and their ammo is more plentiful/lighter and often their AP costs are lower
>>343047275
They are kinda hard to get in the first fallout, same goes to drugs and meds and pretty much everything that you see in other Fallout such as New Vegas, 4 or 3.
>>343047331
>>343047315
>>343047332
>Implying they are not the best shit in end game
>>343047441
Not really, just common sense in the way of
>hmm how the fuck i am suppose to get a energy weapon but with this 10mm weapon
>>343047296
Part of the charm of the first game is the slideshow of your actions telling you:
>You fucked up so fucking hard that that single town that you kinda liked and had some interesting characters are dead because of you, you fucking faggot, play the game again
It makes you want to replay it
>>343047523
Take off the nostalgia glasses you big poo poo head!
>>343047054
>>343047296
>checking wiki while playing to avoid bad ending
that's blasphemy right there
>>343047441
This was not the OP (me). It's one of you
>LMAO HE TOOK DA ENIRGY WEPINS
faggots false flagging me. Note the suspicious lack of punctuation.
>Fallout 1
>anything but SG
You're in for a world of pain, buddy.
1hex SMG bursts are literally best damage in the game, especially if you crit.
>>343047630
Why are you quoting me?
>>343047680
haha fag
>>343047630
>implying the Bozar isn't the best gun in the series
I realize it isn't in the first one, but that doesn't change the fact. Energy weapons are terrible.
>>343047764
Bozar is best weapon while you're trying to get vindicator.
>>343047716
I guess that'll teach me to not tripfag a thread asking for advice on.
Anyhow, as for everyone else. Back to my earlier question:
>>343047564
Are there any other tips outside dropping Energy Weapons for the early game?
OP here, I'm out.
Gonna go play Fallout 3 instead. At least it feels like a real fallout game.
>>343047804
>7 str requirement
I knew there was a reason I never used the miniguns.
>>343047901
niceme.me
>>343047804
Vindicator chews through ammo too fast, and the ammo it uses is relatively rare. Bozar will fuck murder everything and uses one of the most common ammo types in the game.
>>343047901
dev here, this poster is lying
>>343047687
>1hex SMG bursts
Yeah have fun trying to do that against deathclaws or mutants with miniguns
>its a "faggots buy shit during steam sale then come to /v/ to complain about how /v/ lied to them" episode
>>343047901
>OP thought he could start a thread in the middle of US night / Australia primetime that wouldn't be falseflagged and shat to death
good job m8. push all legit game discussion back to /vr/
>>343047908
Because you hate using power armor?
Stick with it anon, Fallout 1/2 are still my favourite games of ever.
First you can't go wrong with small guns, you can play melee or unarmed too, throwing is useless.Fallout 1 is a little barebones so I'm pretty sure science is almost useless try lockpicking instead, repair might be ok but I can't remember at all. Speech is fine though.
Fallout 2 improves a lot on skill balance and content so science/repair become more interesting choices you also get access to energy weapons sooner but still a fair way into the game if you don't know where to look.
Always take gifted too, unless you want a challenge. Full agi and high int are pretty essential in both games.
>>343047580
>needing to read a manual to play the game
This is why old games are so fucking terrible.
>>343047980
Thread reads more like:
>guy buys fallout on steam sale
>gets BTFO
>comes for advice
>gets shitposted to death and ignored
Such is life on /v/.
>>343047804
Cost and ammo availability are pretty important. Bozar can also be acquired relatively early in the game compared to the vindicator.
>>343046942
What can I do to keep focus on this game? Whenever i start it up I enjoy myself but after an hour or two I'm save quitting and not firing it back up for months.
>>343048034
That, and I could never find fucking ammo for it.
>>343047673
>>343047603
I wonder if people really used guides their first time around fallout 1.
It takes away the whole experience of exploring the wasteland.
>>343047580
Wasteland is the only game i recall begin bullshit without a guide
>>343047698
Dunno man, there is a lot of anons here, maybe i quote you by mistake
>>343047764
I dont recall Bozar on Fallout 1, where the fuck do you even get it?
>>343047860
Never be afraid of running out of a encounter, example the rat in the cave, you can just outrun it into the exit grid and start exploring.
Agility is a must have in this game, dont dump that shit ever
You can heal using the First Aid skill without using a stimpack
Dont put points in Survival or some stupid shit
Many, if not most, of the perks are pretty worthless. Stay away from those that give skill points (except Tag i think), unless you've got a really poor Intelligence.
If you rest in the starting cave until past midnight, you can go back into the vault and get some more XP and equipment.
>>343047980
He is asking for legit advice faggot
>>343046942
Yuo are just a shitter.
Even the most gimped build can deal with rats.
Gauss Rifle/Bozar master race.
>>343048052
Thanks for the advice. Gifted is the one where you lose Skill Points though, right? Are there enough that it doesn't ultimately make a big difference?
>Actually siding with the Brotherhood of Shit in any FO game besides 3
>>343047630
Turbo Plasma Cannon is best weapon, yes, but one can just skill EW up imafter level 10-12 cus going over 125 in any skill is useless.
>>343048052
>agi
Take a look at this fag. Strength and Charisma are the way to go.
ENERGY WEAPONS ARE GOD TIER ONCE YOU FIND THEM
GUIDE IS NOT NEEDED
YOU CAN RUN PAST THE RATS (YOU RETARD)
MY FRIEND PLAYED FALLOUT WITH A COMPLETELY NON-STANDARD GAME PROGRESSION AND STILL BEAT IT (HE NEVER EVEN FOUND THE WATER CHIP, TOPKEK)
>>343048215
> FO1
> Exploration
u wot mate nigga the game has like 20 sidequests all which are easily discovered
>>343048215
>bozar
>Fallout 1
It isn't in F1, and I indicated as such. One of the many reasons Fallout 2 is better than 1.
>>343048092
Because they actually had enough mechanics and features that you couldn't brief it all in-game. Now that games have been dumbed-down and stripped into casual garbage, they don't need to.
>>343048215
>I wonder if people really used guides their first time around fallout 1.
i was like 13, it was my first rpg, barely knew english and i had know idea what i was doing so i've played the entire game with a walkthrough. i'm not proud of this.
>>343047054
DON'T FUCKING DO THIS
IGNORE THIS FAGGOT FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT OP
>>343048352
The only people who think game mechanics were better in old games are nostalgiafags. Games have progressed incredibly over the years.
>>343048215
Thanks, that's just what I was looking for. I think instead of the BoS build, I'll try something more survivor-oriented. Small Guns, First Aid and Speech, maybe. (I have a hard time not tagging Speech)
Then like the other anon said, take the Gifted Perk.
>>343048250
As I recall the BoS barely exists in 2. Just a couple of those stupid outposts, and that's it. Still would have sided with the Enclave given the option, though.
>>343047441
Remove your balls and go back to Fallout 3 you baby faggot.
>>343048430
Nah, I don't plan to. I never check guides or wikis before the first play through. I just wanted to get a sense of what a good idea to start with is to avoid early first playthrough frustrations. The sorts where you fuck up a few times and just quit trying. I really want to love this game.
Anyhow, I think I've got that now. I'm gonna go jump back in.
>>343048451
Solid choices. Consider taking small frame and gifted to get 10 agility.
>>343047441
Don't read the guide, but read the manual, there should be a pdf online that you can read. Remember it's from a time when manuals were still a thing so it's really useful
>>343047275
Energy weapons is only really useful as a skill in 2 and New Vegas.
>>343048249
Attributes are king and limit a lot of what you do and you don't get many chances to increase them. If you have enough int you will get all the skill points you need so long as you don't spread yourself too thin. If you really want to use energy weapons you can but first few levels increase melee/unarmed/small guns to 60% or something to tide you over.
>>343048248
>Bozar
Seriously i cant remember that fucking weapon in Fallout 1.
>>343048325
Dunno nigga, the first time playing it made me go like : "Shiiiet look at that gameworld"
Then again, i was a kid when i played it and it was one of the first RPGs i really got into
>>343048339
Then why bring the Bozar into a Fallout 1 discussion nigga?
>>343048392
>barely knew english
I learnt English with this game too. my older brother helped me out and it made us bondd togheter into a very strong autism RPG bond
>>343048451
Seems about right, First Aid can help a lot, but dont over do it, sooner or later you will want to get Doctor or some other skill to help with Stimpacks, Speech is useful sometimes but you will need to pop a mentat sooner or later.
Just dont dump all your points into Charisma because you tagged speech, get the companion in the first town and you are good to go, he will kinda carry you early game
>>343048431
not all old games had good mechanics, not all new games are worse but bethesda are casual fucks and ruined everything.
>>343047976
I literally cleared out the mutant shed in Necropolis with 10mm SMG 1hexing.
Deathclaws too.
You underestimate SMG damage. 120 damage times 3 is nothing to fuck with, and most builds can burst more than once AND have better critical.
>>343048581
End game powerbuild for 1 is turbo plasma rifle. EW is less useful in 2 since it has the Bozar and Gauss gun.
Energy weapons are an endgame skill in 1. They should be built up starting at around level 10.
>>343048431
>Games have progressed incredibly over the years.
lel, I fucking wish.
Fallout in particular has progressively been dumbed-down over time.
>>343048679
I get flashbacks of 1Hexing SMG faggots from Fallout 2, the ones with leather jackets. Highwayman i think, those fuckers always sniped my ass with burst fire
>>343048725
ughh holy shit I forgot how they turned dialogue into 4 options with literally no idea what you would say. What a terrible fucking game that was
>>343048841
You also forgot to mention that all options are Yes, Yes but with an attitude, No but yes add it to my quest log, and tell me more.
>>343048725
>>343048841
HATE PAPERS
>>343048913
Her paper was stupid in all fairness.
>>343048841
>>343048887
i think its hilarious that you can just walk off in the middle of any conversation insteadof just saying no or excusing yourself
it seems like the only reason they changed the dialogue into that fucking horrible realtime-where-enemies-can-attack-you-and-npcs-wander-off-and-you-can-quick-save-in-the-middle-of-dialogue-and-its-really-hard-to-skip-dialogue-and-everything-is-just-fucking-awful is so they wouldnt have to write out reasonable responses for saying no or excusing yourself. you just slowly and with great effort turn away and walk off like an absolute fucking autismo
>>343049072
>>343049072
This can't be real.
>>343048714
I never found a use for them in 1 whereas in 2 they were so relatively commonplace that energy weapons felt viable as a skill.
I tend to decide my playstyle at the start of a game and stick to it.
>>343049136
There is one nice touch though. If you skip dialogue your character will say 'yeah' or 'eh'.
>>343047369
Are energy weapons better in fallout 2?
>>343049136
thats how I act in real life
>Try Fallout 1
>Decent experience
>Try modding it
>Give up and move on
>Try Fallout 2
>Absolutely bored and hated the temple with scorpions
They're a little overrated desu.
>>343049052
it was
but you should be able to tell her that, or explain clearly tht you dislike the media because of course somene from before the war would have every reason to dislike and distrust the media and their propaganda, or maybe youre a retard and just dont like the news
theres a million reasons to dislike or distrust news media, HATE PAPERS could do anything from paint your character as a media illiterate retard, or an informed cynic
>>343049291
>>343049196
It's more that guns are just as viable end game, in fact slightly better for pure balls damage.
Fallout 1 just didn't have a end-tier small gun.
>>343049189
Oh but it is
>>343049291
in 1 they appear late game and are ok
in 2 some meh ones appear mid game and some amazing ones in the late game
>>343049324
>give up in the tutorial
wow anon I think you might have brain problems
you realise you can just walk past 90% of them right?
>>343049324
>Absolutely bored and hated the temple with scorpions
Is this "Morrowind is shit because I can't hit anything" tier meme?
>>343046942
>+Energy Weapons
This your first Fallout game in general or what?
>go to VC
>"HALT! YOU NEED TO BE A CITIZEN TO ENTER THE VAULT!"
>start combat
>walk into the vault entrance grid
>end combat
>walk in the vault like fuck the rules
>>343049324
>he literally couldn't beat the tutorial.
You're going to have a hard time early on because you haven't specced into anything that doesn't require gear.
If it's your first time playing then just do a cheese runthrough. Start small guns, speech, and repair. Get 10 AGI by dumping CHA. Shoot everything, loot it, and sell the shit at vendors. Pick up the Tag! perk whenever you can and tag Energy Weapons for the turbo plasma rifle and gatling laser, so you can just evaporate super mutants once you get to that point in the game.
Melee weapons are also perfectly viable for the first 5 or 6 hours, but generally fall off because super mutants all use big guns that can one-shot you at close range.
>>343049375
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8akM5pAlNg
>>343048656
>tfw got Ian killed when I failed at clearing out the raider base near Shady Sands
>>343049379
>>343049489
>>343049626
I got past the tutorial, I just didn't like it.
>>343049782
>tag repair
Nigger what the fuck are you doing? Maybe in FO2, but this is the game where you can buy books and increase repair far beyond any useful point. I'd tag lockpicking over repair.
>>343049379
was gauss rifle energy or small amrs?
>>343050775
Gauss weapons use magnets to propel projectiles, take a guess
>>343049626
>>343049413
>>343049379
>whiteknighting the dull and empty atrocity that is the temple of fails
FO2 fags are the worst
>>343050775
gauss weapons were small guns.
>>343051171
regular guns use chemical energy to propel projectiles so they are energy weapons
>>343051307
What's a smartass doing in /v/?
>>343051234
>kill the ants
>blow up the door with the bomb found in the bin
>convince the dude to give you the key
wew that was hard
>>343051234
I beat the temple in 10 minutes when I was a retarded 14 year old who thought that Fallout 3 was the best game in the series.
>>343046942
Here is all you need to know if you are going to play Fallout 1:
>do not use melee ever
>always aim for the eyes
>9 or 10 agility always and a few points in strength if you feel like pretending the BoS doesn't exist, the other stats are virtually useless
Now you can beat the game effortlessly, and it doesn't even matter if you fucked up your skills, because you get infinite small gun skill points for free from magazines.
>>343051448
kick him in the dick and then the eyes tbqh pham
>>343051448
>>343051523
when did I ever say it was hard? I see FO2 fans have the same asinine defense patterns as Dark Souls faggots.
The only part I took a while to figure out as a kid was the explosives door, doesn't change the level is completely dull, uninspired, and fails as an engaging introduction and as an informative tutorial. You ironically will learn more outside of the temple just by having fun exploring than being stuck in a shitty empty cavern that only pads out game time.
>>343047441
Why the fuck would you need a guide, you retard?
If I played and beat Fallout when I was 12 you can do it too
>>343051894
>shitty empty cavern that only pads out game time.
on this point you are correct. probably the worst intro of all time
it's like you don't think at all
>gee this is a nuclear wasteland, I know, I'll go for high end extremely rare energy weapons, science and diplomacy
>>343047441
it's called trial and error. it's like you've never played a game before 2000
>>343051171
it's video games, stupider stuff happened
>>343052040
Hence why I didn't like it and found it boring. But nope, must mean I couldn't beat it.
>>343052194
Fallacy. There are many different types of wastelands. How could he possibly know how rare energy weapons are?
Just because you're knowledgable of the setting doesn't mean he is.
>>343052194
>rare energy weapons
How could he know that energy weapons are rare as fuck exactly? It's a different world you retard.
And I'm not OP but this is my main issue with old WRPG. If you invest in a good build ou win with ease, if not you will take forever to do anything and there will be pain.
small guns or bust
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>>343047441
>this is still getting replies
>>343047275
Energy weapons are endgame.
Best gun in the game is a Energy weapon one.
Problem is that you don't start the game whit an energy weapon.
Best thing to do is just focus on small guns in the beginning.
>>343047441
Legend
