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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4-f4ExYiXY

Maining confirmed for the master race.
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>>343023894
fuck off idiot
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>>343023894
>Getting good with a few
>Not one, a few

Hero swapping confirmed for the master race. Thank you for posting the video to convince me OP.
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>>343023894
Obviously spend enough time on each character to get good with them, but switching characters is usually helpful if you find yourself being countered easily.
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>>343023894
Overwatch isn't a fighting game. You can get the jist of a hero just by playing them a few times.
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>I got gud with Tracer and could counter a Mcree!
>Uh, what if it was just bad players you were beating?
>Silence
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>know when to switch instead of just switching whenever
genius
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>>343023894
this video is trying to tell people to perform "good enough" instead of actually being an exceptional team mate. sure you can do okay if the enemy team happens to counter your "main", but you can also just switch to a hero that is a lot better in the situation and contribute more to your team.
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>>343024353
>>343024845
Trully top tier knowledge thank you based OP
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>>343023894
Anyone who doesnt main at least 1 character from each category and doesnt switch when needed accordingly is irrefutably retarded.
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Is this guy an idiot?
A good Mcree would just shoot tracer dead regardless of distance. In fact at a distance he easily kills her since her damage falls off hard.
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Genji. Called it. I already get 4 golds like 99% of the time
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>>343023894
>maining on a class based fps
I bet you're one of those people who "main" pyro on TF2 as well.
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>>343025124
>lvl 36
>dat aiming
>dat response time from the enemy players

no wonder
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>>343023894
>not having 3-5 mains for certain situations
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>>343023894
i dont understand the point of this video.
>hey guys! if you play a hero enough you will start to get good at said hero!
yeah no shit. everyone learns at a different rate. some people become exceptional at the hero within their first 3-5 hours and some take 10+. if you're a fast learner there is nothing wrong with hero swapping to fit the situation assuming you are switching to a hero you are confident with.
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>>343025768
>lvl 36
Irrelevant. Levels dont mean shit friendo.
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>>343023894
I only play pharah and have a 7K/D ratio, I don't see why I need to switch when I'm doing my job exceptionally well.
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>>343023894
So... who the fuck is this guy? Why should I care? If I make a video in the next 2 hours saying you should swap characters, would you shill my video for free as well?
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>>343023894
>YouTube videos telling me how to play a video game which is basically a glorified toy
Fuck I love the internet
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>>343023894
>practicing helps you improve
huh who would have guessed
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>>343025925
>he thinks K/D ratio means jack shit in an objective based game where assists count as kills while also playing a splash damage hero
fuggg :^)) XDDD
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>>343025192
>lose match
>get gold in eliminations
>only 4 kills
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>>343025925
>k/d ratio
>when you get eliminations on any kill you've contributed any damage
>and half of both teams are either tanks or healsluts
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>>343026153
>>343026407

>He doesn't know the difference between confirmed K/D ratio and Assists
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>offense
>guy picks genji
>does good the first push
>enemy team swaps to mei, winston and reinhardt
>he literally can't do anything
>tell him to swap
>lol no, he's my main
>lose

nuff said
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I never main one character in any game. It's probably why I do so poorly playing Dota 2, but I can fill any role except hard carry. Not really like Overwatch heroes have steep learning curves, only hero I don't play is Widowmaker. She's boring in comparison to Hanzo.
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Just a friendly reminder if you're over level 150 you have no friends and nobody likes you. Stay mad /v/irgins.
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>>343026474
>he thinks kdr means shit
All the while your team loses because you're not actually helping the objective, just getting kills and being an annoying cunt.
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>>343026773
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>>343026687
>I couldn't get carried throughout the whole game
>carries fault
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>>343026687
I try to main one of each class, and then main someone who is likely going to counter the first main. So if I'm getting sniped a lot as Zenyatta I might go DVA to boost into the sniper's face.
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dead game desu
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>>343026920
having both golden eliminations and golden damage dealt with zarya is a good indicator that the damage dealers are not doing their job properly

>>343026965
this guy knows
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>>343026375
>Get Gold in eliminations
I was Mercy the entire round
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>>343023894
you think everyone constantly switches to all other heroes during a match?

isnt it obvious that you pick around ... I dunno 3-4 heroes and get gud with those and swap as you need them.
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>>343023894
>console player

opinion and video discarded
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>>343027205

do the medals mean your rank compared to your team or just personal performance?
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>>343023894
I swap but I also never expect shit from my team. I have a friend who basically mains Hanzo and Genji and I never say shit to him because he paid 40 bucks and can do whatever the fuck he wants, same with any random. If you cannot handle shit teammates, stick with 1v1 games
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>>343027264
medals are 1rst 2nd and 3rd place in your team
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>>343026971
>10 million units sold
>Dead game

u wot
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>>343025925
>>343026474

You can recognise the CoD shitters by how they keep rambling about K/D. This game has a "Damage Done" medal for a reason. Getting the last hit on a few heroes changes nothing.

Even then, having gold damage medal can still mean jack shit. You couls very well still be the reason your team is losing, allthough it's more unlikely.
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>>343023894

My mains:

Reaper (My soulmate)
Soldier 76
Pharah
Torbjorn

:3
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>>343026971
Did you buy Battleborn?
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>>343023894
This advice is fine in theory, but in practice encouraging people to main just ends up with a bunch of retards picking bastion on attack and refusing to switch because 'it's muh main'.There's way more people who will never switch then people who'll switch at the drop of a hat, I don't really see excessive switching as any kind of problem
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My mains in order of preference

Tracer
Winston
76
Mercy
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It's kind of funny considering the shitters that do actually just stick with 1 or 2 heroes just have their retarded opinion validated by this dumbass, and the ones that DO know to swap to a few characters figured this out in the beta.

It basically helps no one and only lets people think they're getting better by having 90% of their time on a single hero.
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>>343023894
>mains tracer
>can barely aim, feels like watching a console player
good thing people like this will never get out of shitter mmr
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>that gameplay
What kind of low mmr gulag was this guy playing in?
It looked like a bot match.
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>>343025871
They're still an indication of the time spent with the game and as a result familiarity with mechanics and design.
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>>343027173
>get gold in healing
>playing Mei
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>>343023894
Daily reminder that these these are NOT exclusive to each other.

Having a main does not mean you play one character, your main is just your best character.

Being a 1-trick pony is not the same as having a main.
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>>343023894
That video only applies to Tracer. Tracer is good all the time, she's only countered by McCree and no one plays him now
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>>343025871
>Levels dont mean shit friendo.

When will this fucking meme die?

>someone who has played for 10 hours is as good as someone whose played for 110 hours!
That's just not true. Especially in this fucking game where counterpicks matter more than personal skill
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>>343023894
>MOBA Plebs
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>>343023894
>why jack of all trades when you can master of some?
>IN OTHER WORDS, I'M A SLOW LEARNER
He was shit at SC2 and years later he's shit at OW. Got it.
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>>343023894
>I wanna hear from you guys in the comments. Do you think you should do this dumb stupid thing that only retards would do, or should you take my correct advice all the time without question?
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>>343028243
Offense characters tend to work way better as "mains" than Defense characters. You can make a Torbjorn work on Attack, but it's going to be an uphill battle.
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>Be good with one hero of all roles
>Quality of solo que games suddenly increased

Still being shutdown by someone going Hanzo (dual even worse) or someone "trying new things" with Symmetra. Im still on the verge with D.Va. Sometimes a D.Va is okay and sometimes they are just dead weight.
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>>343023894
is this guy an idiot? i think most people intuitively know not to swap a character immediately when someone hard counters you. you should play EVERY CHARACTER at least to one hour so you know how they work and what they'll do to win but the thing to stress is that when you get into a game you STAY as the character you pick unless things are desperate.
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>>343029390
Self healing counts
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>>343023894
Everyone who isn't a casual faggot already knows this
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>>343023894
So much bullshit. If the enemy team is of equal skill, you will get destroyed if you don't swap to some other hero to be more effective than being dead all the time. Why keep playing Widowmaker if the enemy Winston or D.Va are up your ass every time they spot you?

>Hollywood defense
>enemy team has a decent Genji who is annoying the fuck out of us with his shuriken and backlining
>switch from Zarya to Roadhog, even walked back to our spawn instead of dying
> bait out his reflect with alt fire shots and hook that boy the moment reflect wears off
>blast his face if course
>he thought he saw through me and reflects the hook 2 times
>doesn't matter, use alt fire and he has to back off for health every time, no backlining for him anymore
>after a while, he tries to bum fuck me with his dragon dildo and break our front
>the front seems to hold, so fuck it, go whole hog on him, he tries to parry and I take some damage as well, but he gets mowed down by the hail of scrap nonetheless because I pushed him into a corner
>do this again later on, mowing down their two tanks as well
>win with a 21 killstreak, killed the Genji at least 4 times, he was never a threat to my team or our teleporter
I think Roadhog is not quite a hard counter to Genji, I suppose that's McCree, but still he could've swapped to Reaper, Soldier76 or even Zenyatta and could've hurt me and therefore my team a lot more because they could've maybe broken through then.
I understand the pride in maining one hero, yet you still gotta adapt if you get shut down despite of your skill.

>mfw I know how to perform good with every tank instead of just Reinhardt
>mfw I often can't swap just because our Mercy player would complain he has to barrier to hide behind or nodody would push the payload anymore
>mfw I have no face
Sometimes, maining Reinhardt just sucks
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>maining in a class based FPS
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>he can't get good at using every character in a game

What's even the point of playing anymore.
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>like twenty fucking characters
>using one?

what the fuck are you people smoking because it isn't this dank kush that i just hit

have a solid fucking roster of a character from each archetype that you're comfortable with at the BARE minimum. more optimally, try and practice them all as it becomes necessary.

pigeonholing yourself into less and less variety is a recipe for death
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>>343023894
There's maining on the level of being good with 3/4 heroes (pref one of each category) but then there's this.

http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/psn/global/mr_bonejangles
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>>343023894
My circle of friends aims to be good with at least two characters from each classification. We do pretty well for ourselves, being able to do every role at least two different ways. For example, myself:

Offense: Genji, McCree
Defense: Hanzo, Mei
Tank:D.va, Reinhardt
Support: Symmetra, Zenyatta

Although I'm not constrained to those listed, they are the ones I'm most comfortable and effective with
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>>343035385
>sub 50% win rate

all who main a character deserve this
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>>343035701
what if you're like level 20 anon
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Soldier 76 is the perfect character, versatile in everything. He is the only character that should be mained.
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Why the fuck would you main in a CLASS based shooter
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>>343035740
there is still hope
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>>343023894
As a Hanzo main, I approve of this video and will link to it in the future when someone complains about me mastering him as my toon.
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>>343036078
okiedokie

the maining isn't something i do, but i'm not quite at a decent match win percentage at the moment. little to do but keep playing.
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>>343030301
That somebody who has ten hours since release could have played for hundreds in the beta, they could just understand the game more intuitively, they could already play other shooters at a high level and be able to apply that to OW, or they could have watched a lot of gameplay and know what counters what.

Level doesn't mean shit.
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>>343023894
He's not wrong, but the key word I fucking know a lot of people in this thread are going to skip over is "A few"

Get good with A FEW characters.

As in Get Good with MORE THAN ONE.

Keep the number manageable, in fact, go ahead and have a single main, but it's important to have two or three characters in your back pocket.

The game is designed around the idea of swapping characters to react to what your opponents are doing. This is irrefutable fact.
BUT, spreading yourself too thin by trying to be good with everybody isn't going to help.

So grab one character from each catagory, learn them inside and out, and don't be afraid to experiment.

That's how you play the game.
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>>343023894
The fuck is this idiot on about.

Overwatch is not about solo play, it's an intricate gave of wits and counters.
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>>343036594
>"Maybe swapping heroes every time you die isn't the answer?"

Is that what he thinks swapping entails?
What a fucking idiot

>>343030657
It's always pretty convenient for these baddies to leave off the last part of that old saying isn't it
>"Jack of all trades, master of none,
>though oftentimes better than master of one"
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>>343034236
soldier is the best class in tf2 though
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>>343023894
>Talking about maining a character
>can't even play the one you main
What the fuck
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For each role at the very least
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>>343036594
>BUT, spreading yourself too thin by trying to be good with everybody isn't going to help.
except that comes naturally to quite a lot of people since they already have prior FPS experience including a ton of TF2
Overwatch is not a terribly hard game to be good at, but the fact of the matter is that the grand majority are fucking trash at the game and the game shouldn't be balanced around them
Anybody worth their salt can easily pick up 80-90% of the characters and do well
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>>343023894
IS HE SERIOUSLY IMPLYING THE THE GAME ISN'T ABOUT COUNTERS AND STRATEGY?

This game is like the chess of fps. You should be learning how and when to counter at every chance you get, not sticking to one hero and pray it works out.

This is not TF2, i thought we moved past that point but i guess not.
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>>343023894
Idiot you should always swap if they went hardcounter on your ass or if your team is too autistic to deal with widow, hanzo just standing and spamming from cliffs
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>>343023894
>i learned stuff about mcree playin tracer
>i learned what distance to be

you dont need to play tracer to know this shit
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>>343037275
You say that, but I can tear assholes to bits with pharah and then play mcree or genji and get fucking raped.
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>>343023894
>trying to play Overwatch like TF2

Holy fuck you can't be this dense.
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>>343037327
>furposter
>the chess of fps
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>>343037327
>comparing onlywatch to chess
blizzdrones never cease to surprise me
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>>343037327

Overwatch made me appreciate tf2 more.
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I personally feel like the only characters a person can "main" are Mercg, Lucio, or Reinhardt since they are usually useful in every situation
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>>343037327

he's saying that there's ways to counter something that would normally counter you by changing your tactics
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>>343037691
>onlywatch

The game has been out for a while now, that nickname doesn't make sense anymore.
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>>343037782
Agreed. Overwatch somehow made TF2 style team games even more casual.
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>>343037882
And Soldier
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>>343037882
Kinda this

I play Rein as much as possible just because he can turn so much around
The only way he's bad is if no one on your team can aim + enemy team is all coordinating on you

I just wish I could charge through Roadhog's ult to pin him, let alone the retarded physics of hook stopping a charge
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finding it great at the moment since my most played is lucio because no one picks support, and i have a blast playing him. he has decent health, can go fast, wallride, and still do damage/knockback

i go d.va just in case we already have rein and mercy/lucio and the obvious hanzo/genji/reaper

so right now its lucio for support, rein if we need a real tank, monkey/dva depending on the situation

i have hardly got a chance to pick an offensive class because dude ninja/sniper/bowman
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Postem
Variety is the spice of life boys
You DO have variety don't you?
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>>343038061
Isn't that obvious? You change your tactics by swapping. Staying the same hero is useless because that makes it easy to keep countering you because it's expected.

OP is fucking stupid. I can't fucking.... arrgh.
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People swap way too much in this game, but at the same time it's built around counters. There's really not much a Winston can do against a Reaper.
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>>343038289
I play Lucio because for some reason nobody complains about him when there's a loss.

If I pick Mercy I just get shit on constantly for things completely unrelated to my own play. I don't know how you guys can put up with that shit.
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I'm going to main torb until my play time looks like this

wish me luck friends
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>>343038549
Mercy is inherently more skill-intensive than Lucio due to requiring some sort of triage methodology, as well as keeping herself safe
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>>343023894
>I'm bad at learning so nobody else should switch: the video
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>>343038434
People ask me why I'm bored of the game already

Kill me
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>>343038619
luck
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>>343038619
>cancer
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>>343038787
>>>343023894 (OP)
>>I'm bad at learning so nobody else should switch: the video

Some people prefer to learn deeply than shallowly. If you don't like sustained practice you'll never get truly good.
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I only play McCree. I have no counters and I counter everything.
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>>343038549
>>343038690
its weird since i used to play medic in tf2 a lot but mercy feels off

i guess because theres more classes with so much mobility that can really fuck your day up as mercy. and the lack of uber panic button and you're meant to play more passively to build up charge unlike mercy i guess

lucio has so much mobility if played right that its fun because of how creative you can get with traveling the maps.
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>>343023894
The game doesn't want you to swap often. If it did it wouldn't penalize you by reseting your ult meter.
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100+ level player here

Did you know that the only time you'll ever see a player above level 100 when you're below level 100 is if they're in a premade group?

I've found that out the hard way.
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>>343038887
>Some people prefer to learn deeply than shallowly.
Which you can do in like a day with this game, this is casual pokemon levels of deep. I like the game, but it's fucking retarded to pretend like the characters have some deep intricacies that you need to learn to min-max in any situation.
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>>343038260
I keep seeing webms of this one area of that one map.
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>>343037882
Junkrat is pretty good in this regard. Personally I have a LOT of hours in both Mercy and Reinheardt, but I find junkrat is usually a solid pick no matter what gamemode.
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>>343038831
shouldn't be ashamed

your top 3 are what people dont want to touch because cool ninja man and edgy mcreaperson

you're a team player so be proud
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>>343038948
Yeah, Mercy played at a top level requires a lot of forethought and quick decisions about who to jump to in case of trouble

Also, being able to preemptively swap between healing/damage is another skill Lucio doesn't really have, as well as when to pull out your pistol
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>>343039048
Bullshit
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>>343038887
>>Some people prefer to learn deeply than shallowly
Then why are they playing OW?
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>>343038950
>teammates switchin heroes after every death
FUCKIN PICK ONE
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>>343038887
>Some people prefer to learn deeply than shallowly.
>Overwatch
>deep

I'm having a blast with the game too, but come the fuck on dude
have you played like any other FPS in your life?
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>Reinhardt Main
>Almost 30 hours now

I'll play other characters but I generally carry as Reinhardt.
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>>343034202
Roadhog is good against Genji because Genji is designed to fight high armor foes. His damage is lower than tracer or reaper but the damage is localized so the 5 damage drop from armor is only about 15 per spread.

On roadhog, this advantage is negated because he doesn't have any armor anyway, so Genji needs to do an extra 100 damage plus whatever healing when his whole kid is built around low health or armored targets anyway.
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>>343038887
Fucking Meme Fortress 2 has more depth than this anime.
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>>343039201

Ever since hitting level 101, every single match I've been in has only level 100+ players in it. The only exception is if I group up with my friends who are lower level, then it puts us into lower games.

So you better get as much practice in as you can with the characters you're interested in in your earlier matches, because you won't have time to do so later.
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>>343039287
>Pubs still think they can shield against the hammer
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>>343039287
Reking a whole team as Reinhardt is the most fun I've had in this game. It's so satisfying.
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>>343039294
>Genji is designed to fight high armor foes.
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>>343039247
I usually do this when there's a tank/support role that needs to be filled but the only way to counter the enemy team is with a good offense/defense hero counterpick.

I don't want to be that guy who switches off of tank/support, but sometimes it just feels like my team can't get the job done.

I cannot fathom how a Torbjorn turret can stay alive when we have two Pharahs.
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>>343037882
Reinhardt is pretty bad on koth or CP attack though.
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>>343039362
>what is mmr
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>>343038950
or just swap after ulting, im usually ok with swapping if my meter is 30 or below
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>>343039287
>try shit like this as Rein
>even lead with ult sometimes
>get shot to death less than 5 seconds in
People have to be pretty dumb to let themselves eat it, he's such a big target

I have no idea how to managed to get away with that
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>>343039534

>Level 100
>Generally play with people who are levels 20-100, sometimes see high level players
>Level 101
>Play with people who are 101-199, never see anyone lower

Unless my MMR magically spiked up in my last matches at level 100, I think your level has some baring on it.
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>>343039086
Let me show you some fucking depth kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SYWXGI3mm4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKiIgMnrnRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOaHJTbsbTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCksAMt5zgk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBh1WeY_T3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltXlQfNAQb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zckb__t6cU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxtxX858u-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGDhd9KXarI
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>>343039287
reinhardt is a must for a tank on every team. i honestly dont mind playin him either since monkeyman and dva feel so situational.
can never go wrong with rein

>>343039467
>I don't want to be that guy who switches off of tank/support, but sometimes it just feels like my team can't get the job done.

i see this occasionally which is fine, its the ones where the switch is the total opposite of what is happening like a tank going torb, dies then switches to tracer.

its so illogical. and these people are usually in their level 20s
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>>343039727
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>>343039260
>have you played like any other FPS in your life?

CoD blops
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>>343038434
>hanzo
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>>343023894
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>thinking Overwatch has any competitive depth at all
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>>343039727
>The best they can come up with is a watered down rocket jump and turret healing
OH LAWDY
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>>343039727
no basedtion techs? smqh

t. basedtion main
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Please

PLEASE

Stop picking the following fucking heroes
>Torb
>Bastion
>Hanzo
>Mei
>Zenyatta as solo support

Please stop they're fucking garbage
If you have more than two of said heroes on your team it's pretty much an instant loss.
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aren't all of the Overwatch servers 20 tick?

Who the fuck cares? This game is casual as casual gets, just pick who you want and fuck off
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>>343038434
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>>343039937

If no one on the team picks a healer and I'm forced to be the healer, I'm picking Zenyatta. If people don't like it then someone else can switch to Mercy or Lucio.
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>>343039937
you mean more than two of the same? or from your list?
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>>343039937
>Mei and Zenny
>Garbage
Never leave Quick Play.
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>Expecting me to swap heroes to fit the whims of my shitter team

How about you fuck off

I'd do it if I was playing with friends but in solo queue? Na.
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watched the first minute and cant take anyone who has aim that shitty seriously
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this guy is an idiot
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>>343039460
Genji into D.VA is a good fight. Good range, no fall off, armor barely affects the fucking 50 damage headshots.

Meanwhile tracer and reaper do literally 3 damage per bullet making their max dps, even on head shots garbage comparitively.

Mcree and pharah are the only other attackers that fight well into armored targets, but neither have the close range fighting potential of Genji who can do 153 damage on a fanned headshot after armor mitigation.
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>>343039629

Gotta be unexpected with it, mostly. You did it right, there: Walk up with shield like you're going to be one of those defense only shitheads, and then just DO IT. Even if you miss the charge, you can swing around and shield yourself back up as a distraction (assuming your team isn't a bunch of fucking clowns) or, if they choose to not turn around and look at you, you can beat the shit out of them. (I have had this happen. They thought I went over the cliff in Route 66's first turn)

If you're being headshotted on the charge? Well that just happens sometimes. Zenyatta does it the most to me.
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>>343040128
t. Hanzo Main
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>>343040156
Everybody is good against D.Va, she's meant to be in and out of the robot.
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>Using Quick Play to learn how to properly use characters

well no shit

But you better not be doing that shit in ranked

You should, AT LEAST, have a go-to pick in Offense, Defense, Tank, and Support

But a "Jack of all trades, master of none" is better than a "master of one" in a game so heavily dependent on team composition.
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>>343039727
>a couple of advanced techniques that come from paying attention to the hero's capabilities
>DUDE TECHS LMAO

Don't try to fucking make it sound like you're some kind of ultra gamer by calling these "techs".
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>>343040148
Who cares?

This game isn't about aim, it's more about brains and counters. Brains over brawn is what dictates the winners from the losers.
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>>343040234
Your placement matches are going to be full of triple Hanzo and you're going to like it.
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>>343040226
the problem is lack of eject option. only occurs during her ult and mech dying

or the option to eject any direction

give me an option to eject up and id like that
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>>343039727
The TF2 Spy alone has more depth than this entire cast combined, and that's hardly anything.
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>>343040374
meant for
>>343040138
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>>343040185

Mercy or Roadhogg actually.

Seriously solo queue teams are trash.

>>343040234

>He thinks people will use proper team comp in ranked

Everyone's just gonna flock to the most broken combos.

Hot you like double hot monkey dick.
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>>343040374
you're talking to a quake nerd m8
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>>343040374
>The game is casual
Thanks for clearing that up
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>killing mcree as tracer at mid range

Well then its just a shit mcree.
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>>343039472
>Reinhardt
>bad on CP attack
What?
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>>343040506
>proper team comp
>broken combos
>It's not proper if I don't like it!
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>>343040506

What's even the most OP shit these days since McCree got nerfed?

Widow
Winston
Winston
Lucio
Lucio
?????
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>>343023894
This is legitimately a reddit thread, subject field and everything.

Fucking genocide yourself
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>>343040374
>This game isn't about aim, it's more about brains and counters. Brains over brawn is what dictates the winners from the losers.
You do realize that most arena FPS have that on top of the necessity to actually aim your gun?
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>>343040508
Yeah i noticed. Can't stand quake kiddies and tf2 aspies. All they can do is spam.

Whatever happened to using your wits to outsmart your adversaries? Overwatch came at a good time when strategy in FPS was at an all time low.
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>>343040568
I kind of agree.

I think Rein is extremely strong on KotH and CP maps, but I feel like Zarya or Winston are slightly better picks otherwise.

Really it just depends on the enemy team comp though.
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>>343040602
Hollywood 1st point defense with Widow on top floor in the right building, Symmetra turrets on the floor below, Reinhardt shielding the entrance, Mercy buffing Widow, Reaper flanking and Bastion sitting in the corner right of the big door.
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>>343040602
Lucio
Mercy
One of Reinhardt/Winston/Zarya
One of Reinhardt/Winston/Zarya
A Offense/Defense Hero
A Offense/Defense Hero
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>>343040602
Reaper
Widowmaker
Zarya
Mercy+Lucio is a given unless its KOTH then its double lucio
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Are OW players just the class-based FPS version of smashfags?
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>>343040665
Play chess then dumb faggot, FPS games can be both and Overwatch isn't.
>HAHA I WENT WINSTON I HAVE OUTSMARTED YOUR WIDOW XD
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>>343039727
It takes you longer to learn how to rocket jump most effectively as the Soldier than everything you posted combined
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>>343040664
see
>>343040665

>1v1 me m8 xDDDD mano e mano boi u gonna get rekt! i'm calling it!

fucking playing 4D chess over on overwatch while you fags splash damage yourselves to death.
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you're all fags tbch
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>>343040691
I meant extremely strong on Payload maps. Got my shit backwards. He's underwhelming on KotH and CP.
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>>343040665
As casual as it is, TF2 actually has infinitely more strategy to it than OW, though.
AND it requires you to not be shit at aiming/moving.
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>>343040602
I don't care what people say, I'm starting to think Zarya is absolutely retarded.

She shits out damage like it's nobodies business, and is actually pretty hard to kill if she knows when to shield.

Also her Ultimate absolutely fucks teams up if you have any other character with an AoE Ulti.
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>>343040601

Oh don't play the retard, we both know people will pick the simplest path to victory.

By proper team combo I mean what the other guy said, a medic, offensive hero, a tank and so on and so forth, but right now you can team stack in comp and there are particular maps where 2 of the same hero are a fucking nightmare and double winstons covering each other perfectly are extremely hard to deal with.
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>>343040821
b-but that requires aiming and this game isn't about aim it's brain!
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>>343038434

But of course
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I swap heros because it's more fun

I often will play 6-8 heros over three games
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>mfw these plebs dont even realize overwatch is literally cartoon call of duty advanced warfare
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>>343040950
see previous post
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>>343023894
>underestimating how casual /v/ and overwatch's player base is
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>>343040821
most people want to actually play a game, not spend hundreds of hours exploiting glitches

you're like that 'building speed for 12 hours' autist
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>>343040936

The thing is she goes down faster than the other tanks once that barrier disappears. I know for a fact I will run up and beat the shit out of here once that purple bubble is gone. And then she respawns weak and useless with 0 charge again. Keeping her down is easy.
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>>343023894

>Losing team constantly swapping heroes.
Makes me lol every time.
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>>343040936
I think people are learning how to use her shields properly.

You don't want to use them preemptively often. It seems a lot better to let them chunk part of your 200HP shield then pop it after you get them to commit. You never lose any HP that way and you're almost guaranteed to bait 99% of players with it.

She feels like a really strong character.
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>>343040439
lol no he doesn't. He clicks people's backs. Everything else is just mindgames.
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Certain heroes require you to be proficient at aiming or awareness to not be a waste of space. Instead of being someone "mains" shit in a counter-heavy game I just play whatever seems useful as long as it's not one of the following who I suck with:

Roadhog
Zenyatta
Pharrah
Mcree
Genji
Junk
Zarya (I know, I suck at bubbles)

And of course, the snipers. I have a pretty good winrate by just not playing characters that I know I can fuck up and always countering the enemy picks. That video is pretty pointless when nobody plays every single character equally and a very small minority just plays one character forever. I have seen literally one person 'main' a character to the point where they don't switch off.

Getting good at aiming is for suckers, zap people as Symmetra all day.
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>>343041009
do you not realize that some people are just burnt out of tf2 and moved on to new things
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>>343041056
>glitches
It's literally in the official video of the character
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h42d0WHRSck
10/10 bait
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>>343040439
Shit I could name more "TECHS" for a fucking TF2 Sniper.
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He's got a point but man does he drag on and on, eight and a half minutes and all he does is repeat the same single point.

And picking tracer for the video was a poor choice, since tracer is strong as hell and very versatile.
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>>343041192
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AscendedGlitch
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>>343041056
>most people want instant gratification with no effort rather than actually play the game toacquire skill
ftfy
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>>343041106
Mechanical depth no, but to play him effectively there is a lot you need to consider with your movement and how to prioritize and influence the enemy.
OW just doesn't have that to nearly the same extent, you can flank and wall people off or shoot from higher up but that's about it
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>People take this game seriously

Head hitboxes are broken, they're basically bobble head sized.

You can hero stack.

You can have the opposing team quite literally set up shop outside your spawn.

OW is a facebook tier game, its fun but I don't understand why people treat it like its this hyper competitive thing
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>>343041198
Tracer is extremely strong on KotH and the first Control Point of several maps, but people really need to switch off of her for the last point on shit like Anubis or Hanamura.

You're not flanking shit on those maps, pick someone more useful.
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>>343040936
Anyone with a charge or jump can get out of it. Most people just panic and don't move out.
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>>343041192
>That camera wobble during any action sequency.

Absolutely disgusting.

Lipsync and general animation is still top fucking notch, though. Still portrays a lot of weight and character.

I feel like that didn't end up translating to the in-game though. Cameras felt too floaty and stiff, you felt like you were literally floating over the landscape, not walking. That's one thing overwatch has over them.
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>>343041263
>wasting your time to acquire useless """""""""""""""""skills"""""""""""""""""

seriously, the "esports" salination is real
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>>343041248
I don't see TF2 in the examples and it's popluar enough to be.

Basically you just rebutted your own argument, nice job shitter.
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>>343041248
It was never a glitch though you fucking idiot, it was the plan from the beginning
https://youtu.be/h_c3iQImXZg?t=2m53s
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>>343041293
tons of fps games increase hitbox size for non-hitscan weapons
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>>343041386
>>343041390
>valves plan from the beginning was to rip off quake

sasuga valvedrones
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>>343041172
Dont need to move on to the newest shit fest. There are plenty of old games that need players that I'm sure you haven't even heard of. Any goldsource the specialists players in here?
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>that guy who instantly locks in Genji

>dude switch we don't need genji on defense
>but I need to get good with him
>we instantly lose
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>>343041478
The original Team Fortress was a quake mod, so kinda
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>>343041369
You are already wasting your time, that's the point of vidya.

But it's ok, not everyone has to be into competition, sounds like Overwatch is more of a casual game and that's fine.

Just make sure you don't complain when yuo get Widowmaker and Hanzo in yuor team while on offense, remember it's all just for casual fun!
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>>343041275
That has a lot more to do with the map design of TF2 rather than the actual character design.
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>>343041512
>A SHITTY BROKEN GAME HAS LINEAGE TO AN EVEN SHITTIER BROKEN GAME

what a fucking surprise.
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>>343041478
Team Fortress Classic was a Quake mod you retard.
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>>343041197
OK. name them.
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>>343034236
>implying ppl use their class as intended
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>>343041401
Very few FPS have headshot damage on non-hitscan weapons
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>>343041542
Which adds depth to playing the character effectively that wouldn't be there in flat environments. Obviously Soldier would have less depth too without platforms to jump onto.
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yeah it will be great when you get matched up with a team of all the same heroes and nobody is a support or fringe character that is useful in certain situations.

what a CUNT.
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>>343035760
The most honest post here
>>343038831
>Top is Lucio
You're doing it right
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>>343023894
>account level 37
>having a valid opinion on ANYTHING

Who does this guy think he's kidding
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>>343041603
nice self burn m80
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>>343041586
I'm looking for any merit in your post but I can't find any. Work on that.
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>>343041586
Okay now I realized you're only false-flagging, that's a relief
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>>343041649
that's true, i'll give you that one
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>>343041649
very few FPS games have damage on non hitscan weapons
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>>343037327
>This game is like the chess of fps
A game that has existed for many years?
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>>343041754
No?
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>>343041789
explain why I can't do any damage with them then
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>>343041718
>false-flagging

>>>/pol/
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>>343037327
>>343038486
>>343041586
>13. Do not use avatars or attach signatures to your posts.
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>>343041507

>Attacking
>They instantly pick Bastion, Junkrat, or Hanzo
>Mfw DEFEAT
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>>343041293
>hero stacking is bad
Compare 6^21 to 21!/15!
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>>343041867
bad
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>>343041991
yup they're bad, hitscan master race
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>>343041950
>Normally complete shit with Hanzo
>Play 1 Attack game on Volskaya as him
>Land every shot and completely carry my team
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>>343041950
>using defend heroes for defense only

autism
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>>343041950
>mfw winning a Numbani attack as Torbjorn
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I'm not gonna bother reading this thread, but if you are playing a CLASS BASED SHOOTER and you MAIN A CLASS you are retarded and only a hindrance to your team.
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>>343041645
Crouch strafing in sniper duels

Jarate+Bushwacka

Hidden sniping spot on Badwater overlooking BLU spawn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPFeVvkGNBM

and bush fully hiding your presence on Barnblitz

Double kills with Machina

Twitch aiming

Area denial simply by taking the advantage of the visibility of your laser

There, off the top off my head. Sniper is still one of the most braindead classes.
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>>343042157

Its not the fact they picked defense for attacking its the fact they picked them automatically with no real plan of how to utilize them properly for attacking.

The Hanzos rarely use sensor

The Bastions think recon mode doesn't exist

And the Junkrats play a mile in the back regardless of if the point needs to be contested or not.

I only mention those 3 because the others are pretty versatile (torb on payload) and the people who pick them on offense usually aren't shit.
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>>343042328
Don't forget about quantum crouching
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>>343040821
When did it become a feature that movement has to be hard to be good? Why not let your skill show through strategy rather than obtuse game mechanics?

It's like in chess, you don't gain the upper hand when you move your rook to d5 in a stylistic way, you gain the upper hand with careful position and knowledge of the piece (hero) and it's purpose on the board in that very scenario.

Another example would be poker, being a good card shuffler doesn't impress anyone, strategy is key. You aren't fucking Yugioh where drawing a card and revealing a card in a dramatic way does much more impact than the strategy.


I suggest you neck yourself.
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>>343034202
Roadhog can shit on backline flankers way more effectively than McCree after the nerf I find, especially Tracers since unlike McCree a Tracer can't really stay mid range since Hog's hook will catch her anyway. After the nerf I really don't see a reason to ever pick McCree over Roadhog for anti-flank, Soldier 76 for attack, or Reaper for tank melting.
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>>343042460
Don't reply seriously to this bad post
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>>343042414
That's shared by all classes though, but yeah.
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>>343042460
>execution shouldn't matter in video games
oh boy here we go
its like fightan game threads
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>>343042558
So is shooting
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