There has never been a bad kirby game. What do you hope to see in the next one?
>>343018814
Theres not next one. After this Kirby is going to Mobile like Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem
I'm hoping to see more nes kirby nostalgia
>>343018916
i will end myself if that happens
A game that builds up to the final confrontation like KSS did, take the game, divided it into small slices and make them bigger as you unlock them. Also more minigames, bring back samurai duel, egg catching and standoff if necessary.
i wish they would go back to kirby superstars physics.
i miss the faster gameplay and slightly more difficult challenge, seems like im barely fighting any enemies in robobot and if i am they move at half the speed as they did in superstar
>>343018814
A game in proper HD. The 3DS games look fine and all but I'd really like to see what they could do on Wii U or NX or whatever.
Something make by a new difector.
>>343018953
This. Bring back based Nightmare Wizzy, give him STEEPEST FLOOR
Also bring back Lightmostly because i want to see a 3d model of cool spook
>>343018814
Triple Deluxe was pretty shitty.
>>343019206
>samurai duel
my relative of african decent.
>>343019291
This is depressing. In CRystal Shards there were like 5 or more enemies in the screen
>>343019347
And highjump, them rubber chickens, man.
>>343019131
Well then better be prepared anon cause thats whats probably going to happen. If the NX is a failure that is
http://www.strawpoll.me/10604553
SPOOPY KIRBY WHEN?
>>343019901
it wasn't great but it wasn't bad anon
>>343020030
fuck you I liked it
Every game that doesn't have Meta Knight in it is a bad game. This is fact.
Quick /v/ "super abilities" or hyper nova fruit?! which was better?
If they brought back Dark Matter, they can bring back Zero/Miracle Matter/02 and Nightmare Wizard.
And if they're so obsessed with bringing back more modern Kirby enemies, they can bring back Necrodeus or expand the Drawcia lore or something. I'm sick of Galacta Knight and Masked Dedede all the fucking time, and they even brought back Sectonia for no fucking reason.
Also I'm happy that they went DEEPEST LORE with the Haltmann company being the implied creators of the HR robots, and then bringing back Dark Matter, but I can't believe they didn't take the opportunity to make HR-0, the perfect blend of Dark Matter and cybernetics.
>>343020545
Robobot Armor. Without question.
>>343020545
Both are shit, but at least Super Abilities were used better in the final boss.
>>343020636
Also BRING BACK COMPUTER VIRUS!
>>343020824
im kinda surprised it wasn't in robobot
>>343019291
Having more enemies in one screen equals to a mess and annoying segments, not challenge. Expecting challenge in a casual game will only bring you disappointment, and you have no one to blame, but yourself.
Also, nice bait. Adventure and Dream Land games had one or two only enemies in a screen.
>>343018814
>Triple Deluxe
>Return to Dreamland
>Squeak Squad
>Mass Attack
>Epic Yarn
>>343019291
>Circling the Helper Burning Leo.
>>343021249you have shit taste
Is it pretty much confirmed that the Kirby universe is set in the far future after human civilization has died out? Is the lore too deep for a children's series?
>>343021251
the waddle doo in the first pic is also a helper
Is Crystal Shards the only game where you can combine enemy abilities?
>>343019337
This. We've had
>Sakurai games
>Shimomura games
>Flagship games
>Kumazaki games
Now let's see someone else's take on mainline Kirby.
>>343021246
>Having more enemies in one screen equals to a mess and annoying segments, not challenge.
>implying DL, KA, and KSS are poorly designed messed with no challenge
That's wrong. More dense enemies to avoid in the earlier games provided better level design, and a more satisfying challenge.
>Adventure and Dream Land games had one or two only enemies in a screen.
That's wrong too, I just played those recently.
>>343020649
I'm an complete idiot, what does borb stand for?
>>343021687
Tanabe Kirby
>>343021808
Fuck you Canvas Curse was great
>>343021575
no its in its own individual galaxy. planet popstar is where dreams come from
>>343019206
>A game that builds up to the final confrontation
>like KSS did
MWW was neat but the final battle was about all that was memorable form it, its just padding after most of the originality was used int he previous mode and an excuse to fight Marx
Granted Marx was awesome and so was the game, but there's no such thing as a build up, having played other individual, unrelated stories before the final one doesn't count. Meanwhile the current games literally go out of their way to build up to the final confrontation.
>>343021828
portmaneau of "bad orb"
>>343021828
some body post the comic
>>343021808
I'd say that Rainbow Curse was worse.
>>343021828
It's an awful swear word degenerates use to sully the good name of Sir Meta Knight. Using it should be a bannable offense.
>>343018814
>mfw HAL topped themselves AGAIN with that fucking climax in Robobot
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
The day HAL creates a bad Kirby game is the day that video games are officially dead.
>>343022265
you ought to wonder what the absolute madmen will pull next
>>343022371
video games were always dead
>>343022371
But that already happened a long time ago with DL3.
these niggas right here
bring them back
Why are Kirbyfag such obnoxious cunts?
>muh babies platformer has no le bad games meme
God, fuck off.
>>343022405
Literally the only way they could is tobring back Dark Matter/Zero for real in the next one
>>343022371
Rainbow Curse.
Mass Attack.
>>343020545
Both were shit, but Super Abilities were skippable and there was Ice Bowl so it was better.
In contrast the robobot armor is actually fun and isn't just "press B to cutscene." It breaks up the Kirby gameplay with more Kirby gameplay, but slightly different
borb
>>343022752
What was the point of this post?
Why did you post two good games with no context?
meow
>>343022861
Sleep tight, forced meme.
>>343018814
Another Air Ride game would be great even though it won't happen.
>>343023067
>tfw sold Kirby Air Ride a long-ass time ago becauseI had no one to play with
I regret it to this day
>>343022861
Sleep tight, Borb.
Let's ask the real questions, who's best grill and why is itFairy Queen?
>>343019291
That's some 4-tier cherrypicking m8
Let me try
>>343022683
>>343022683
>>343022683
This. The circlejerking is astounding.
>>343022861
Sleep tight, Borb.
>>343018814
>>343023067
>>343023273
>new Air Ride with online pubs
>causing havoc in true 16-player City Trial mode that doesn't require $1,200 of equipment in your living room with space for 16 people
I'd buy it.
>>343023780
>tfw no one to play Kirby Fighters with
>>343023771
best girl coming through
>>343022683
>>343023803
name 1 (one) bad kirby game
A proper 3D movement game that's not a racing game or any other genre shift, not "3D" graphics with all vectors and hitboxes on a 2D plane, I mean actually 3D like Super Mario 64.
If the franchise has no bad games then it wouldn't hurt to try.
>>343024296
The Subspace Emissary.
>>343023780
Its not worth the effort, don't even try with these people
There is something to be said about the difficulty and enemy count I feel, its worth discussing and not ignoring but its a complex myriad of game design considerations. However, that person doesn't care to have the proper discussion if they're making bait images and vague, general statements instead of an actual assessment
Is there a worse final boss
She did nothing wrongIt was unintentionally Taranza's fault
>>343024386
As long as it's "the camera sticks behind you" 3D like SM64/City Trial, and not "the camera is glued overhead" like 3D Rumble/3D World.
Granted, I think both could work, but I'd just rather see the former. I think it would be a little more immersive, even though that's a weird thing to ask for from a Kirby game, but man, I loved running around the City, and I think it would be fun to explore more of Dream Land's areas in the same kind of way.
>>343023067
I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Kirby DLC in Mario Kart. Unlikely, but not impossible.
>>343025083
God, I hope we get at least that someday, after the cocktease that was the Rosalina trailer.
>>343024863
Dark Nebula looks so cool, shame his boss fight sucked.
I post about it in every thread, but I still want the Squeak Squad to come back.
>>343024386
They did try it on the Gamecube, and it got stuck in development hell and never released.
Nintendo must have felt the game wouldn't have been very good in 3d.
>>343025223
I want someone to take another crack at Squeak Squad, the only thing really wrong with it was the game length and level design.
>>343025083
What happened with that Twitter post NoE made?
Was that just blue balling?
>>343024869
I want Sectonia fags to die.
>>343024065
>Kirby fighters deluxe doesn't have online
Absenceofgod.png
>>343025223
The squeak squad was a pretty neat bunch
>>343024869
Are you that anon from last thread that posted pre-transformation Sectonia? I really hope they find a way to save her; kinda like Magolor in Dream Collection (was that even canon, though?). She didn't deserve that fate.
>>343025471
>save her
She's fucking Marx levels of dead now.
mass attack was really bad
>>343025356
I'm pretty sure that somewhat recently, HAL at the very least expressed interest in making a 3D Kirby game. Plus, it's arguable that 3D Rumble is a testing grounds to see how kids like the concept.
Expect some Japanese-exclusive poll in the near future asking what people thought of Robobot's submodesand for 90% of the results to not like them.
>>343020545
super abilities
robobot armor is still the king
>>343025401
Im not attracted to her you doorknob fucker, I just want Taranza to have his waifu back
>>343025471
I dunno, maybe
>>343025665
>waifu
>turned on her, smiled when helping Dedede and Kirby
he literally couldn't give less of a shit
>>343025665
Taranza helped in killing Sectonia.
>>343025647
They know people want it, they probably just felt it easier to ride out the current gen with something that works than make the jump late in the game, they can take the risk on the NX
https://www.vg247.com/2014/05/22/kirby-hal-laboratories-nintendo-interview/
>We’re really interested in making a fully 3D Kirby game! I suspect there are also more than a few users who’d appreciate being able to freely run around a sprawling map, fighting with copy abilities.
>Of course, we’re also continuing to evolve the Kirby series as a whole, and I hope that one of our next challenges will be to produce a Kirby game in full 3D that still maintains the same depth of play our fans have come to expect.
3D Rumble is a nice testing grounds but it really doesn't fit the bill for what he's describing here, so hopefully they aim for this next
I am going tomarrymeta knight!
>>343024296
mass attack
squeak squad
triple deluxe
>>343025740
>>343025845
He knew it was best to end her suffering.
Are you telling me letting Haltmans's soul dwell inside Star Dream was better than putting him out of his misery?
>>343025951
>>being able to freely run around a sprawling map, fighting with copy abilities.
>>a Kirby game in full 3D that still maintains the same depth of play our fans have come to expect.
Oh god, this is exactly what I want. I don't usually buy into stuff like this, but I believe in HAL. I really hope it happens someday.
which colour is your favorite? red master race here (grape is the 2nd best)
>>343025740
>>343025845
She was already dead.
>>343026035
>Are you telling me letting Haltmans's soul dwell inside Star Dream was better than putting him out of his misery?
At least he'd just be sitting quietly in one spot as opposed to screaming in agony as you obliterate it from the outside, then tear the insides one by one and he feels all of it.
>>343021687
>>343021837
If anyone should do it it should be Kenichiro Kita, he's been working on Kirby games as a designer since Kirby's Dream Land 3.
I want to see buddies like in dreamland 3!
And a cute artstyle too!
>>343025356
They should keep 3d kirby in mini games. I like it but it doesn't seem like abilities would work well, the big seller of kirby games
>>343026035
It's not suffering if you aren't aware.
>>343026167
Snow, Ocean, and Sapphire are my shit in Amazing Mirror.
>>343026167
It snow doubt about which one is best, but I, like everybody else, dig carbon
>>343026167
Chalk.
>>343024296
Triple Deluxe is pretty mediocre.
>>343026167
Snow, Cherry, and Carbon were my favorites.
>>343026195
>At least he'd just be sitting quietly in one spot as opposed to screaming in agony as you obliterate it from the outside, then tear the insides one by one and he feels all of it.
Yeah great idea, who needs Popstar when Star Dream was ready to brutally destroy it.Were the Sun and Moon fighting again or some shit
>>343026221
I want to see another artsy, full-on-atmospheric Kirby game, like Epic Yarn or Rainbow Curse but with traditional Kirby gameplay.
What kind of artstyle would it have? Maybe a full HD realization of KDL3's crayon aesthetic? I'd love that.
>>343026547
Cell shaded Kirby could work
>>343026167
KDL3 pink
>>343026547
>crayon
wat
>>343018814
I've played two bad Kirby games
The Animal Buddies.
>>343026167
Carbon up in this
>>343026162
I hope so as well, I'm sure some things are out of his hands, but they did allow him to say that regardless and I don't see why any higher ups (HAL or Nintendo) would go against such a project, specially if they're happy with their recent performance
>>343026547
Well we've had yarn, crayon and clay maybe papercraft/story book style?
>>343026675
The pastel sketchy colors and everything, plus in-game artwork like this. I bet a game that's totally in this style would work well on today's hardware.
>>343026776
If they do the clay style again but with traditional gameplay I would be pretty stoked
>>343026547
Stop-motion food.
>>343025356
Well, HAL seems to have SOME kind of engine working with 3D Rumble. Maybe it was derived from one of RtDL's prototypes.
>>343026232
If they had abilities working before in the 3D prototype, they probably could bring them into modern games without too much trouble. After all, the only thing that kept Kirby GCN in development hell for so long was its focus on multiplayer, instead of a single-player experience. I'm sure bringing back ability movesets wouldn't be too difficult.
>>343026776
Paper Mario kinda has that under lockdown.
>>343027024
This makes way too much sense for a series where the protagonist eats everything. I like it.
>>343023780
>all cherry picked on older versions are from 1-1 of their respective games
>RtDL has enemies to show off your stupid giant sword
>another is a mini game
>the third one is 1-3 in Robobot, where the stage is so open-boxed it's one of the few areas where they're actually able to afford more enemies
Your cherrypicks are garbage, m8.
>>343026776
One of the canceled games actually had a pop-up book aesthetic
>>343027184It's a joke, Dongus.
>>343026913
The in-game sprite sheets and Adeleine's credits doodles were drawn out in real colored pencil then scanned into a computer, resized, and adjusted to fit in the game.
Environments look like oil paints to me but I'm not sure.
>>343027091
I suppose so, what about a manga style?
>>343026776
I feel like doctor Kirby was meant for return to dreamland, rather than robobot. Seems odd to have such a healer esque ability when there is no coop mode.
Either that or doctor was added just to allow for a healer in Kirby clash.
It is a cool ability. Hopefully it's more fleshed out in future release.
>>343027276I'm a triggered ninny and can't take jokes.
>>343027212
>there will never be a paper kirby rpg
just end it now
>>343025541
I know. It's just that it sucks because she did not mean any harm; all her cruel actions were the result of an unfortunate accident. I feel that, if Magolor came back even after Kirby defeated his soul, Sectonia might have a shot. At least she is not as dead asHaltmann, whose soul fused with Star Dream, and you could even hear his pained yells when destroying the Mother Computer's cores.
>>343025665
I love that pic so much. It really breaks my heart they could not find happiness together in the end.
>>343018814
Kirby 64 is intolerable slow.
would you?
>>343026504
>Were the Sun and Moon fighting again or some shit
They probably decided to stay the fuck out of Kirby's way after all the times he kicked their combined asses
>>343027429
If you are implying something lewd, never.
I would have a sleepover with kirby though, he would be fun and have good food.
>>343027346
It wasn't really Magolor.
>>343027439
that wasnt the sun and moon, that was Mr Shine and Mr Nite, the lesser versions
>>343027418
The slow will overcome the fast
The soft will overcome the hard
Kirby 64 is quite good.
why doeszero twoget so much fanart?
is it the simplistic design?
is it the edge?
>>343027346
>It really breaks my heart they could not find happiness together in the end.
This is a heavy thing for a Kirby game
>>343027212
The solid bordered, almost anime-like artstyle reminds me of Wario Land Shake It!, and the colors/ground tiles remind me of New Super Mario Bros. Maybe it would look more dynamic in motion.
>>343027282
I can dig it, especially if they did something like rooms being differentiated by comic book panels, and area transitions occurring via page flip. If they did explicitly base it off of manga though, the level progression would probably end up going right-to-left, which would be weird for the gameplay.
>>343027318
Or maybethey couldn't think of a more fitting ability for the Doctor Mario amiibo to grant, so they made one up? I always felt like that was the reasoning behind it.
Pretty much all the ones not directed by Sakurai are complete shit for babies.
>>343027346
I'm cringing. She was a villain dude, the darkness in her own mind and spirit is to blame for what she did. Let it go waifufag lol
>>343027662
Slightly the edge, but probably because his weird design is pretty odd for kirby.
>>343027493
>steal a bite of Kirby's snack
>he kills you
>eats your family
>wipes out half the neighborhood
>discovers a cosmic deity in your basement
>kills it
>is treated like a hero
It don't matter how cute he is. Stay away from it.
>>343027343
well see how bad they've casualized paper mario? it went from easy to baby easy
Kirby is already baby easy, paper kirby would just play itself
>>343027817
>I'm cringing
Thanks for bring it up, that was really relevant to the conversation
>>343027730
>if they did something like rooms being differentiated by comic book panels, and area transitions occurring via page flip
my dick
>>343027895
You're welcome ya big baby
>>343027876
i know
but i can dream
>>343026547
Kirby as a shadow on walls, fighting off other shadow puppets and traversing gaps made by sources of light such as desk lamps and flashlights "burning" away the ground
You could use the usual floating villain hands to have a bad guy that takes a more active role in hindering Kirby by himself
Light could return and be a less useless ability
I dunno
>>343027658
It is not. I've been replaying it this week.
The movement is shockingly slow. None of the powers are fun or have any depth.
Kirby 64 is all graphics and music.
>>343027573
I know where you are coming from, but the boss was clearly called "Magolor Soul", not "Master Crown Soul". Besides, Kirby beat the crap out of Magolor; he didn't just hit the crown.
>>343027493
I'd never imply something lewd, anon~
>>343027828
Nah, I would only eat food he offers.
Kirby isn't an insane monster, he is just a glutton. The only time he went actually crazy for food was Squeak Squad.
Besides, he shares in game when you eat. Though it is pretty gross how he does it.
>>343027662
>It's a "darkness is not necessarily black" monster
>Based off an angel, edgy kids would think that's cool
>Bleeds from his eye, pretty hardcore for Kirby
>Also happens to have one of the most jarringly dark themes of the series.I never understood the cactus dick though.
>>343027662
The Dark Matter legion are the only antagonistic force to be behind the events of more than one game. Also, it was pretty cool that the Dark Matter that took over DeDeDe in Dream Land 2 was revealed to be only one of many.Also, open eyes usually indicate the end of sleep, and therefore dreams. So yes, the edge.
>>343028037
WADDLE DEE IS CUTE
CUUUUUUTE
>>343027828
>get sucked up by kirby
>not special enough to give kriby any powers
>just spits you out to damage your family
>>343028019
I like the level design and the abilities. Boss fights are good. Mini games are good too. It's not too slow for me.
>>343028054
>Never understood the cactus dick thoughRape hurts more.
>>343028046
you want the Kirby kissu then?
>>343028135doo > dee
>>343027876
>Implying the difficulty wouldn't loop into super diffcult
Have some hope man
>>343019291
I miss the speed of Super Star, but the new games are great too.
Seriously, though, Kirby is better when it's fast. RtDL is still harder, but KSSU is the all time hardest Kirby Game, and the most fun to play.
>>343028329
I like doo as well. He is criminally under-appreciated.
Also is Kirby 64 implying that all Waddle Doos are just Dees with Dark Magic bullshit?
>>343028054
It's Eldritch.a spiked tentacle that seiosly doesn't belong their is decidedly lovecraftian. It's meant to be uncanny and give a sort of twisted patchwork look to zero. It also directly contrasts it's angelic traits.
There really are a shocking amount of lovecraftian themes in Kirby. I'm inclined to believe the guys at hal are fans.
>>343028329Why is there a subspecies of Waddle Dee that has a giant eyeball encompassing 95% of its face, and this is just kinda acceptable in the Kirby world? Could alll Waddle Doos be Waddle Dees that have been infused with Dark Matter, and they just kinda live with it?
>>343028187
he's just too pure for this world.
>>343028250
He is doing it innocently so I wouldn't be weirded out.
I would prefer to chew my own food, what he does is basically how birds feed their young.
would you S rank meta knight?
>>343027662
>>343028085
Another thing is that Dark Matter can possess anyone or anything virtually undetectably, as the Ripple Star's Fairy Princess demonstrated quite well. This makes it unclear as to exactly how much control Zero/Dark Matter has over Dreamlands threats, or even its allies, causing a lot of paranoia. Pretty much anything with an eye motif could be seen as a sign of Dark Matter's influence.
>>343027817
ButSectonia is not even my waifu, I just like her character and design. Also, she was never inherently bad to begin with; it was the Dimension Mirror's fault that she got corrupted and acquired twisted standards of beauty. The one at fault here is whoever created that mirror. Heck, even Taranza can be held accountable for Sectonia going nuts since he was the one who brought her the mirror, but we can forgive him because he never intended to harm her.
>>343028037
>>343028250
>>343028673
can the homo please leave
>>343028652
what if it was a grill?
>>343028758
Still just an adorable orb.
An adorb.
thread reminder
>Meta Knightmare Ultra
>MK Ultra
What does it mean, /v/?
Was Kirby the very first openly gay video game protagonist?
I can't think of any before him
>>343028434
Not quite. All of Dream Land's most common and numerous residents are created by Kracko. Waddle Doos are his most enlightened mortal children, with more capacitu for psychic/magical ability than any other race. Waddle Dee becomes a Waddle Doo when he is posessed by Dark Matter because he temporarily ascends, thanks to the raw spiritual strength of Dark Matter.
>>343028756
found the borb
>>343023771
Adeleine a best
Who's that qt at the bottom playing the piano?
>>343028867
>le borby borb lewds
fuck off you literal meme
you're the pepe of kirby threads
>>343028809
don't tell me what to doborb
>>343028726
Not the other anon but I fucking love Sectonia, backstory or not, and agree but I don't see the need to spam it or present it as the best thing ever, its neat, its sad, but you can easily kill its charm by posting it every thread
besides the point is that it is tragic and unfair, ultimately she had vanity of her won which was amplified, so its still a fault of her own in a sense
Either way who's fault it is won't make a difference, she's dead, that's that
>>343028837
You are still in the machine subject 83.
You must execute project Delta niner tango.
>>343028434
>>343028527
I don't know I'vebarely played kirby 64It felt too slow for me. Even for a kirby game
>>343026776
>>343027091
Paper Kirby
The true sequel to TTYD. First ally is a Bronto Burt
>>343028974
You sound pretty mad, BETA knight.
when will we get a mainline meta knight game?
>>343029152
stop roleplaying any time faggot
>>343029112
>implying it wouldn't be sailor dee
kek
>>343029112
I know Paper Mario fags are thirsty as fucktrust me, I'm one toobut I'd be pretty upset if we got a Kirby RPG and it was just a carbon copy of Paper Mario's gameplay.
If we ever get a Kirby RPG, I want it to be really well thought out and original.
>>343028994
IT'S HIP-
>>343029280
considering we were denied a carbon copy of ttyd id happily excepy the kirby version
>>343028994
the Haltman lore is posted every thread too anon
>>343029241
>sailor Dee
"In the arms of the angels..."
>>343028726
That's one interpretation but it seems more likely that she allowed herself to be corrupted because she has a shallow and weak spirit. It's not like Dedede being posessed by a higher force and literally acting against his will, Sectonia became obsessed with beauty and power (or the power that comes with beauty) and a magical artifact amplified that vain lust she already posessed, driving her to commit attrocities.
But in the end the fact is she herself was evil. The hows and whys she ended up that way don't matter, that was her true self.
>>343028892
http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Chao_%26_Goku
That one girl in DL3 form a different game, also shows up in DL2's Japanese version as a rare replacement of Gooey in the animal friend bags (pretty sure the western release made it a girly gooey instead)
>>343029280
It would have different gimmicks, of course, but it'd still be in the same vain as the old Paper Marios.It's been 12 years since the last true Paper Mario came out, the series has been dead for longer than F-Zero
>>343029241
He'd be the secret recruitable ally, like Ms. Mowz. Maybe Adeleine could be the first partner so she can "tattle" like Goombella or Goombario.
>>343028892
Chao from Yuyuli, she shows up in DL2(jp) and DL3
>>343029415
Huh, I just thought the Chinks had started trying to invade Popstar. I had no idea she was an actual character.Bring back broom
While we're on the topic of RPG allies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wICD7Zq_Tqw
>>343028527
Because it's dreamland we don't gotta explain shit the main character eats things and gains their powers for Christ sakes THE VILLAIN IS A PENGUIN WITH OVEN MITS ON WHO WRESTLES!
>>343028994
True that. I apologize.
>>343029280
Like this one? Sorry if it's not embeded. I don't know how to do that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0ku_u24dOw
>>343029391
>>343029472
I just think Kirby deserves more than to carry on the torch of a dead series. The very core of Kirby's character is infinite potential, and I'd like to see that philosophy come to life in an RPG in its own unique way, rather than it be "here's the Paper Mario game those guys wanted, but Kirby-flavored".
If there's ever another classic Paper Mario-esque game ever again, I'd rather it be an official PM game returning to form, or someone going out there and making an original spiritual successor.
>>343018916
Neither of those are going permamobile just like Pokemon didn't.
>>343029395
Well it could probably use less posting as well, but the Haltmann stuff is usually accompanied by people sympathizing but not outright posting the same "DIDNU DO NUFFIN, PLS SAVE HER" of the couple of you Sectoniaposters. We've all seen her original form and the same fanart at this point, there's no need to do the exact same post every time without anything new.
Not to mention Haltmann is the latest game and people might still want to express their feelings for his fate, he's also got a lot of blanks to fill in people are still trying to figure out what they want to beleive
>>343029409
but didnt the mirror cause her to act that way?
>>343029401
don't remind me...
>>343029816
It's the only style left for Kirby to branch out into, unless he becomes a water color painting next.
To be honest, Paper Mario wasn't good because of Mario, or Paper. It was just an incredibly charming and quality game that was different from your average RPG. Paper Kirby would fit that mold perfectly, since there are so many lovable Kirby characters and enemies. Plus, no Toad Town.
>>343029591
>Squishy
Every time.
>>343029992
Toad Town is Mario & Luigi and an actually liked location since the toads are contained there rather than fucking everywhere
>>343029992
>unless he becomes a water color painting next.
Didn't they already do that with Dream Land 3?
No Kirby game will ever be as FAST as Super Star. Just look at this.
>>343030116
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING THERE??
Guys! I just thought of a way Dark Matter could return!
>>343030103
Isn't that more of a crayon thing like SMW2?Return to Dreamland = Dreamland 3 = Kirby Super Star Ultra, the holy trinity.
>>343029715
Maybe? Is this not just some RPG Maker thing?
>>343029992
>It was just an incredibly charming and quality game that was different from your average RPG.
Yeah, so why would anyone want a Kirby RPG to NOT be different from something that already exists? That's the point I'm getting at.
A Paper Kirby game would be comfy as fuck, don't get me wrong, but it wouldn't be very unique. I really wanna see what boundaries they're capable of having him break in an RPG.
>>343029401
Sailor Dee died as he lived: dead weight.
>>343030116
TWELVE HOURS
>>343029395
Sectonia was a main villain from a game released 2 years ago.
Haltmann is the main villain of a game released this year.
Depsite appearing in only one game, Haltmann has much more lore tied to him than Sectonia does.
It also doesn't help that people think Sectonia is 100% not guilty for something that she could have prevented if she wasn't so obsessed with the Mirror.
Is it so wrong to want the next kirby game to be a little bit more difficult?
Robobot especially is just way too easy. Even the optional collectibles, which are supposed to be hidden and a challenge to get are found in plain sight most of the time.
Sure... the true arena is kinda difficult. But I don't want to wait until I've done everything else for a little challenge
>>343030212
Waddle Doo is about to jump to a parallel universe.
>>343029961
Nigger I started the Sectonia shit with>>343024869
I never did the "SAVE HER PLEASE" garbage.
I just happen to enjoy her lore more than Haltman and Susie.And seriously, I always was sad for both Taranza and now Haltman for losing who they loved most.
>>343030212
QPU misalignment
>>343030273
and the worst part is that meta knight didn't even care.
>>343030235
Dunno if it was made on RPG Maker, but it certainly has a lot of work put into it, since no RPG Maker has a default battle system like that.
>>343030116
Went so fast he got sucked into the speedforce
>>343030221
The in-game sprite sheets and Adeleine's credits doodles were drawn out in real colored pencil then scanned into a computer, resized, and adjusted to fit in the game.
Environments look like oil paints to me but I'm not sure.
requesting that image of a morose kirby in a sombrero drinking tequila
>>343030337
I want the next Kirby to be a longer game.
Like, Return to Dream Land length. Except with better level design and not being more of a sleep inducer than Sleep.
>>343029591
Met-a Kniiiiiiii~ght
>>343030430
man Kirby girls are lewd
>>343029591
What the fuck is this
>>343030318
>It also doesn't help that people think Sectonia is 100% not guilty for something that she could have prevented if she wasn't so obsessed with the Mirror.
But doesnt the mirror control your darkest desires or some shit?
I never played the amazing mirror.
>>343030337
>Even the optional collectibles, which are supposed to be hidden and a challenge to get are found in plain sight most of the time.
I was missing like 10 rare stickers after beating the game. I had to do like 3-4 reruns of a few stages that I couldn't find a cube in. And I haven't found any HAL rooms. The collectibles don't have to be DIFFICULT to find though; as long as they're placed in interesting ways that makes you feel good about locating them, like "I KNEW there was something in that suspicious spot!" then it's going to feel good to collect them.
I do think the core gameplay could ramp up in difficulty a little more, though.
>>343030116
>After witnessing his friend misalign his QPU due to Kirby's interference, Waddle Dee mastered this technique to get revenge on Kirby, little did he know that his stealing of Kirby's cake would cause Kirby to go on a mass killing spree.
>>343030651
>on a mass killing spree
>not a mass attack
come on dude step it up
>>343030337
Robobot is the easiest Kirby game, even the True Arena is a damn joke.
>>343018814
>Triple Deluxe was a boring slog
>hear good things about Robobot
>it's almost identical to that game
Why do these games get so much praise? They're awful.
>>343030719
They really need to cut down on the i-frames that all these powers have, especially in super strong dash attacks like ESP or Hammer.
>>343030304
BUT FIRST-
>>343030349
I enjoy both of their lores and sympathize for them, but >>343024869 was exactly what I was talking about, its been the same post every thread for a while now, but I guess I should apologize for lumping you with the didnu nuffin
>>343029591
>CRACKO!!!
>king duhduhduh
>>343028032
The crown clearly has an evil grip over Magolor's body and the red eye is part of the crown's influence too
just face it, Magolor did nothing wrong
What the fuck caused a dark matter blob to become Gooey?
>>343022265
The climax in Robobot was good, but I felt it was weaker than Triple Deluxe. Fighting Dedede had slightly more impact than fighting Mecha Knight+ because you already fought Mecha Knight a few worlds ago. Sectonia was a better boss than Haltmann, and again, Susie earlier on was just a lite version of Haltmann. The shooter finale in Robobot was quite good, but three phases long and I spent the whole thing waiting to get back on foot for a final phase which never happened.
Robobot armor is a better game gimmick than Hypernova, but the final boss made no substantial use of it. None of the major bosses are fought in your robobot, and Halberd mode really doesn't count. Even just a second phase of Haltmann where you push his shit in with your own mech would have added a lot to the sequence. On the other hand, Hypernova does see real use in the finale of Triple Deluxe even if it's pretty much just a cinematic phase of the fight, and Kirby's stare down with Sectonia at the very end was perfect. The heart core at the end of the True Arena was good, but whenever I think about it I'm just struck with the thought that they should have put that phase in the main story and gone further for the true arena finale.
Even in Meta Knightmare, it was disappointing to see Galacta Knight at the end after they blew their load on Dark Matter right at the start of the climax of the mode. I thought Star Dream was summoning Galacta Knight to begin with, and was pleasantly surprised to see Dark Matter instead, but it was dampened by just ending on Galacta Knight anyway. They should have made Dark Matter more challenging and saved him for the end. Galacta Knight has gotten tons of play at this point.
>>343030836
I was hardly relying on the I-Frames.
The aerial attacks in this game will fucking rape everything.
>>343031009
Magalor did everything wrong and should have stayed dead
>>343030836
>They really need to cut down on the i-frames that all these powers have
yeah it is a bit strange.
and i really don't think the kirby series needed spot dodge.
i was never a fan of blocking in superstar either.
>>343029591
>"Whadul Deh."
>>343031009
he still sought the crown
>>343030996
who eats a cake with a fucking knife?
>>343029965
>>343030642
It never controlled Kirby, Dedede, or Meta Knight. Sectonia didn't walk into some sort of trap, she became obsessed with beauty.
>>343031142
he wasn't going to use the silverware anyway
>>343030836
>remove uppercuts, down aerials, block, and all dodges
>nerf all ability damage
There, I made it better.
>>343031142
A gentleman.
>>343031009
Aside from Stealing his starship, attacking a guardian dragon, tricking the heroes to repair his ship and kill said dragon so he could steal a crown to rule over dimensions?
>>343030770
Having robots instead of Hypernova objectively makes the main gimmick of the game more engaging. Other than that, of course the gameplay's going to be about on par.
As for why people like Kirby games in general, they're just chill to play, but there are plenty of abilities and they all have more diverse movesets than most people would expect for a game that presents itself like Kirby does. It's fun to find a favorite moveset and blow through the game with it, or constantly switch up your arsenal for variety/puzzle solving purposes. The games have consistently good music and atmosphere, and recent games have even been kicking it up a notch in the plot department. You can play the games casually or push yourself for 100%, in which case the amount of skill required from the player ramps up considerably, especially with the True Arena.
There's really no point in explaining any of this since I can't change how you feel about the games, but I figured I'd share a little about what I think gives Kirby games a really effective mass appeal.
>>343031009
Magolor knew what the crown did and wanted it from the start.
I'm honestly pretty tired of all these villain apologists.
It isn't cute, it isn't funny.
>>343031269
Removing all of your defensive options is a shit idea. They ought to make enemies and bosses do more damage instead so you're punished more for failing to dodge or block. It would make for a much better action game.
>>343031301
>>343031140
>>343031084
>>343031406
he only wanted the crown so that he could revive his extinct race and repopulate his planet
>>343030770
Triple Deluxe was fantastic, and Robobot really only improves on it in terms of its gimmick being better implemented. You've just got shit taste, or no patience for easy games. Some people don't care that much if the game isn't difficult.
>>343031041
>Dark Matter enters Dedede
>reads his mind and spirit
>gets to Dedede's friendly rivalry with Kirby
>tries to understand
>completely unable to retain those feelings
>Gooey is born much to Dark Matter's disdain
>>343031409
>Removing all of your defensive options is a shit idea
DL1-3 and 64 didn't have guard and worked fine.
>>343030430
pls
I cant find it anywhere on google and I know one of you has to have it
>>343031409
Your defensive option is the classic "move out of the way"
Having a block button that minimizes damage while you don't have to actively work to figure out an attack pattern in a platformer isn't really balanced.
>>343031009
He did everything wrong in the events leading to the Soul fight. He might have managed to actively try to repent afterwards be he still tried to trick/kill everyone.
>>343031526
The only villain appologists that make sense are Dark Matter fags and Zero fags.
>no galacta knight origins/meta knight story spinoff game
It's like they HATE money
>>343031409
>Removing all of your defensive options is a shit idea
Most Kirby games did without blocking and Smash Bros. dodges
You either moved at the right time or got hit
>>343031669
Wait what? Why? Why do they get a free apology? We don't even know just how sentient those things are; especially Dark Matter.
>>343031547
Except Gooey is in Dreamland 2, with a small chance to rescue him from a sack.
>>343031672
He doesn't need origins. All he needs is his theme song and the knowledge that he blows up planets out of boredom.
>>343031589
>>343031731
Those games have entirely different design philosophies. The newer games are more action focused. Doing more games like those ones would be fine, but taking elements from them haphazardly and sticking them into newer formulas isn't wise.
>>343031607
Being able to fly infinitely in a platformer isn't really balanced, either. Kirby is barely a platformer.
>>343030430
>>343031593
>type "Kirby tequila" in Google images
>it's right there
>>343031669
I dunno, the Haltmanfags and Sectioniafags are having some neat discussion
>>343031672
Maybe they wanna keep him mysterious. I don't blame them. If we suddenly knew everything about his backstory, there wouldn't be much of a point in constantly recycling him every game.
>>343031773
Official sources say that the reason Dark Matter invaded Dream Land is because they envied their capacity for friendship/happiness/love.
>>343031269
This
>>343031409
>They ought to make enemies and bosses do more damage
This too.
Like a KA-KSS hybrid.
Any tips on beating true arena?
I can't get past the second boss without getting rekt.
I've found that hammer, ninja, and mirror are pretty good.
>>343031773
zero and dark matter are too autistic to understand friendship, but still want to.
that is their goal
>>343031526
>Magolor mentions a friend telling him about the Clockwork Comets when describing the Lor's origins
>yfw that friend was Marx
>>343031950
>I can't get past the second boss without getting rekt
Holo Defense API? Are you for real?
>>343031887
>Kirby tequila
well fuck me, i was typing "kirby drinking tequila" which for some reason does not have it
>>343031950
hit the enemy and don't get hit. Knowing when your attack will trigger the next phase and stop the enemy's attack is helpful and makes it easier to safely do things that seem risky.
>>343031923
>>343031835
I'd like to at least see what galacta knight considers a "worthy advesary" apart from meta knight.
Honestly I'd just like a boss rush "kill the eldritch gods" game.
>>343031406
>Drawcia tried to control the world by forcing her image
>Marx was just power hungry batshit insane
>Magolor was a greedy, manipulative bastard that lost control of himself trying to rule everything
>sectonia went insane from the mirror, but it was her damn fault for allowing that to happen
>Haltmann ruined many worlds in his conquest to save his daughter from an accident he caused. Eventually, he only focuses on Star Dream.
They all deserved their fates. Magolor just got very lucky to not die like the faggot he is.
>>343031950
I hope you mean soul dreams second form, if not we can't help you
>>343031939
Doesn't Galacta Knight take away half your health bar with one attack?
>>343031950
instead of focusing on strong attacks just mash b with the hammer and remember to do the hammer twirl
>>343031607
>>343031731
I feel the guard and dodges aren't nearly as useful as you make them out to be, most bosses will chip away at your health if you keep guarding, and the dodges are painfully slow and leave you vulnerable for a long time, so dodging usually requires some timing and isn't a free get out of jail card.
Not to mention a lot of the focus of True Arena is a speed clear and endurance so sitting guarding and taking chip damage doesn't help any of that
I'd definitely agree with >>343031880 that its not as simple as lifting old formula conventions and plopping them into the new one, the balance is entirely different here, not to say either is perfect or without room for improvement
>>343031950
>second boss
You mean Star Dream's second form, right?
Right?
>>343031950
Spam the dash attacks for hammer or poison
>>343032057
>a "worthy advesary" apart from meta knight.
Kirby?Or to get meta, maybe the person he really wants to challenge is you, the player.
>>343031923
>Official sources say that the reason Dark Matter invaded Dream Land is because they envied their capacity for friendship/happiness/love.
It also quite literally says Dark Matter never asked nicely to be friends and went straight to attacking, there's no excusing /r9k/ matter
>>343032028
API 2.0
In Meta knight's return I beat it in like 30 seconds, I just can't in arena.
I'll try hammerspam.
>>343032112
>>343032157
Star dream is the easiest boss.
His second form is fucking too eZ GG.
It's not even that I get beat by the Holodefense API 2.0, it's just that it fucking drains my health so much that I die like 2 bosses later.
>>343031970
>>343031923
They envied the love and friendship others experienced, so they went to destroy the planet because of their inability to experience those feelings? How does that excuse them from anything? They did as much harm as any other Kirby villain out there, with their reasons being no more noble than anyone's.
>>343031950
An effective way to cheese through it is to use Archer. Be careful though, as its crouch will not defend you against the true final boss' last desperation attack, which is a one-hit kill move unless you are at full health.
Why isn't there more Kirby Fan Games? Is the copy ability mechanic too complex to recreate?
>>343032295
Dark Matter wouldn't envy their capacity for friendship if it could just ask someone to be friends. It's obviously an innately destructive force by nature and can't really help that, not that it's an excuse.
>>343031050
>robobot not utilized in final boss
this. I thought Hal learned that when they introduce a new major mechanic, they have to use it at the end since Triple Deluxe used the hypernova for the final Sectonia phase. It's a huge disappointment that the robobot armor, which is one of the best major gimmicks of late, wasn't utilized, despite the spectacular final fights.
>>343032364
>Star dream is the easiest boss.
>hasn't even beat true arena
>can't get past API 2.0
Yeah, sure.
>>343031923
Wasn't the "official source" just an old Japanese strategy guide?
>>343032364
the fucking tree is easier than holodefense API 2.0
>>343032364
Which segment of the not-Pix fight ruins you? The ice dragon?
>>343032398
>How does that excuse them from anything?
I dunno, I was just stating the facts.
Though >>343032404 has a good point, Dark Matter is nothing but a ball of malice and envy, and thus chaotically attacks things that it can't ever understand. It's no more sympathetic than a hurricane that kills thousands of people, just because "it can't help it."
>>343032593
*harder
fuck im tired
>>343032593
I would hope so since the tree is a prior boss.
>>343032364
>In Meta knight's return I beat it in like 30 seconds
by using a special huh
Honestly I all I want in new kirby games is
==DEEPER LORE==
More fucking godlike bosses like star dream and galacta knight instead of retarded nonsensical shit like a bunch of COGS or a fucking brick.
>>343031773
Some Japanese guides say Dark Matter is lonely because nobody wants to be their friend. The misguided emotionless nightmares probably thought posession was a form of camaraderie and that Kirby was just being a dick. My take on Kirby 64 is that they really did have bad intentions this time, Zero came back less powerful, but with the capacity to hate and feel truly sad, angry and hurt. They planned to take the fairy's crystal to restore his power and take revenge upon the universe for not being able to understand him. Or maybe they were just going to try to be "friends" with Ripple Star this time and try to avoid Pop Star altogether, I don't know.
>>343032484
I think the game book says it somewhere
Will Yo-yo ever come back?
Replaying SS via SSU, I realized using it in the SSU's Arenas was a blast. It was like a delicate dance between you and the bosses.
I tried using Whip in newer games, but it doesn't feel as nice and doesn't have Yo-yo's kind of coverage that made using it so fun.
>>343032364
>Star Dream is easy
>even though API 2.0 fucks you over
>has not finished the True Arena yet
There is so much wrong with this.
Have you actually got to Star Dream Soul OS?
>>343032735
No.
I kept up-bashing with the sword.
>>343032624
Yeah, both ice dragon and coily snake
I can never tell when they're about to fucking move
>>343032398
>they went to destroy the planet
They never destroyed any planets, they just melded with cute characters.
>>343032865
>I can never tell when they're about to fucking move
>Ice Dragon wiggles
>Coily Rattler winds up
Pay attention, dude.
>>343032819
yoyo is a copyrighted word now, so never
>>343021808
Actually get some taste anon, that game was amazing and challenging as fuck.Maybe 5 levels total were slow mazes
>>343032828
I didn't say soul os.
Galacta knight without specials was easier
>>343032364
>Star dream is the easiest boss.
>His second form is fucking too eZ GG.
The second stage of Star Dream Soul OS is probably the toughest, its the one that will likely get a solid hit or two in on you. And those arms really hurt.
>It's a "boss' defense skyrockets and your attacks do shit damage to them" animation.
>>343032893
>just melded with cute characters
>dark matter just wants to be the little girl
>>343032364
>Star dream is the easiest boss.
You haven't even gotten to it in the arena.
>>343032429
They kind of did, Kirby used the Robobot armor to scan the Halberd, and that must have been HAL's idea of using the gimmick in the last section as a final-form type of bot
>>343032780
Dark matter attacked because he was envy of the dreamland happines but never tried to ask for friends.
Pretty sure Zero invaded as a reprisal for dark matter.
Zero two didnt even invaded pop star. Ribbon was lucky to crash right upon kirby
>>343033001
I feel like the First Phase is the hardest.
>>343032759
>another fucking COGS fight
>"oh... Great. I guess I'll just hang here and shoot."
>FUCKING KABOOLA OUT OF NOWHERE!
>the music changes to the KDL power up theme
>mfw
>>343026167
>no citrus
>>343032956
Nah
http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/343/655/109434/
>>343033061
>It's a "co-op is pointless because the boss is immune to another hit for two seconds so you have to space out individual hits and might as well be playing alone" boss
>>343026167
Sapphire hell yeah
Also reminder thatMirroris best ability, closely followed by cutter
>>343021661
Squeak Squad had a limited version for the Sword and Bomb powers.
>>343024296
I wouldn't say it's bad, but Dream Land 3 is pretty shit due to coming out after Super Star. Gameplay wise, it's a huge step down from Super Star. Single attack abilities, a lot less variety, and no ability descriptions. I get that the animal pals mix things up, but you still only have one attack available at a time and no guard, making the biggest challenge during a fight deciding whether to attack or not to attack. Getting the collectable for each stage is tedious and annoying due to some bullshit levels, like the minigames you only have one shot at. This is all just my opinion though, I know some people really like it. The presentation (art and music) is all very charming and cute, which is a huge plus, not to mention the improved multiplayer.
>>343031950
Reposting this list from a previous thread.
*NOT MY LIST. JUST REPOSTING.
"The True Arena: Power Tier List v2
Rankings consider time to completion (comprised of, in order of importance, DPS, Range, and Mobility)
* = Amiibo only in True Arena
>God Tier
Fire (Inferno is DPS KING with decent range)
Jet (Cracker is BROKEN, it's basically a star on command; Rocket Dive does 2-4 stars worth of damage)
>Top Tier
Stone (Uppercut = insane DPS; Heavy Smash = star damage)
*Smash Bros.(Hammer Flip = insane DPS; great range options)
Hammer (Hammer Flip = insane DPS; Hammer Twirl = huge DPS)
>High Tier
Parasol (Circus Throw does a silly amount of damage for a grab; Parasol Twirl = huge DPS, mobile, invulnerable)
Cutter (Final Cutter = huge DPS)
*UFO(Laser = great DPS + huge range)
ESP (Psychokinesis = great DPS + huge range)
Doctor (Spray Medicine = huge to great DPS; good range options)
>Mid Tier
Fighter (Hadoken = great ground DPS; RB + SK = great aerial DPS; good range options)
Ninja (Quad Shock = huge DPS on grounded enemies; mediocre other options)
Poison (Poison Fountain + Smog = great DPS on stationary targets, good DPS on mobile targets; good range options)
Beam (Cycle Beam = great DPS; Beam Blast = good DPS + great range)
Leaf (Leaf Uppercut = great DPS)
Sword (Upward Slash + Sword Dive = good DPS + great vert. range; Spin Slash = good DPS + great hor. range)
Mirror (Mirror Body and var. = great range; Reflect Guard bypasses invulnerability)
>Low Tier
Archer (Low DPS; Great range)
Ice (Low DPS)
Whip (Low DPS)
>Bottom Tier
Circus (Low DPS; Awful range)
Spark (Awful DPS; Good range)
Bomb (Awful DPS; Bad range)
No Power (Terrible DPS)
>Wat Tier
Mike (HAHAHA)
Crash (HAHAHA)
Wheel (Terrible DPS; So unsafe you may as well get rid of it)
Sleep (Seriously, how did you even do this?)
Changes from v1:
>Smash, ESP, Whip, and Wheel lowered due to lacking DPS for the tiers they were in.
>Leaf raised due to Leaf Uppercut
>Poison raised thanks to anons and their Smug"
>>343030719
use miiverse to save a screnshot
>>343033445
Also, entering a boss fight while a helper is spawned actually increases the boss' starting HP. Helpers a shit
>>343033214
>Dark matter attacked because he was envious of Dream Land's happines but never tried to ask for friends.
>Pretty sure Zero invaded as a reprisal for dark matter.
Yes, that too. I would not say "attacked" however, more like he imposed himself on Dream Land and caused some trouble. Not saying they're innocent, and they are clearly destructive, but they didn't have such bad spirits, just dark ones. They must be the kind of lonely people who don't know how to ask for help, so they push and shove to try to be loved because it's all they know, I have a soft spot for those kinds of characters. They deserved a chance to reform more than Fagolor anyway, but maybe it's for the best from a story perspective or artistic viewpoint that they didn't get to.
>Zero-Two didnt even invade Pop Star. Ribbon was lucky to crash right upon Kirby.
My point exactly, yes. They invaded Pop Star just try secure the crystal shards and scram.
>>343023771
I'm sorry but you are objectively wrong. Here is the best Kirby girl
>>343034072
>NOT MY LIST. JUST REPOSTING.
>Ice in Low
>Hammer not in God
>Circus in Bottom
Quit resposting this piece of shit. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually WAS yours.
>>343018814
I just want another console game
Rainbow Curse was great but goddamn, Triple Deluxe anad Robobot were goddamn fantastic while console only gets 1 good kirby game each cycle
>>343018916
>>343019131
Is this bait?
We literally just had a shitposting fiesta last year about Nintendo going mobile until it was revealed that Nintendo's first Mobile game is a Mobile version of Wii Vote.
Being in mobile will just be spin offs not made internally by Nintendo
Calm down
>>343034072
Everyone completely disagreed with this last time around, why would you repost it again, its not like you should have any attachment to it if you didn't make it
>>343034231
>notAcro
I'm disappointed in you.
Im hoping NX Kirby is a full realization of the 3D Mode teaser in Robobot
>>343018814
I'd like them to turn that full 3D minigame from robobot into a full game
>>343022861
Sleep tight ,borb
>>343034072
>Not mentioning how ridiculously safe Leaf and Archer are
>Not mentioning Mirror's great safety due to amazing shield that reflects for a good amount of damage while also providing invincibility along with good damage attacks with long invincibility frames
>Not mentioning how insanely safe ESP is with its teleports and high damage counter
>Mentioning Final Cutter but forgoing jump cancelled Cutter Drops
This list is so shit that I can't even be bothered to cover everything else wrong with it.
Alright /v/, what should be the gimmick of the next Kirby game?
>>343034421
>>343034445
3Dmind
I'd like so too, I think a lot of us would and they probably know
>>343034072
The fuck is this shitty, inaccurate list? Has this person never seen the WR-holder's videos?
Without exhaustively listing every error: Hammer is fastest, but the current WR is with Ice.
>>343034627
Shadow puppets
>>343034627Photorealism
>>343034627
Next game will be a spin off based aroundthe nearest object to your leftin some way, either aesthetically or gameplay but most likely and overall combination.
What's it about and how does it play, /v/?
>>343034627
Full 3d platforming
>>343034920
>my dog
FUCK YEAH! Animal buddies are back!
>>343034072
>Reposting this horribly incorrect list that constantly gets called out
>but it's not mine tee hee ;)
Cut it out
This Kirby is the BEST kirby.
If only a 4 player co-op kirby existed with no frame-rate problems.
>>343034920
>Tablet Pen
Canvas Curse 3!
>>343034920
>my phone
Amazing Mirror 2?
>>343035275
Hell yeah
>>343034072
>Ice
>Low DPS
A
HA
HA
HA
>>343034920
Procedurally generated copy ability combos, enemies, and maps
>>343034920
>pipe and marijuana
FUCK YES. GANJA KIRBY CONFIRMED
Alright /v/, would you rather see Marx, Dark Mind, or Nightmare Wizard return next game? As the Extra Mode Boss I mean.
>>343035553
Maybe its a knee jerk reaction but that sounds pretty shit to be honest, Kirby's best aspects are always deliberately designed, even the freedom to use any ability, I just don't see it working outside of a mini game
It would make for an interesting fan game though
>>343035275
Best Kirby game.
>Call for help
>4 player rush the nearest boss
>>343035796
02, duh
>>343035796
Dark Mind
The mirror already came back but the extra boss was his second in command.
>>343036049
Zero should be the main boss.
>>343035796
None, I think a game that puts Kirby and friends in a 100% new setting would be cool. Kinda like what Crystal Shards did gor the most part but a new villain, all new bosses, all new mid-bosses, and all new common enemies too.
>>343035247
>>343035421
>>343034672
>>343034540
>>343034343
>>343034239
If you don't like it, revise it yourselves. I'm certainly not going to. Too fucking lazy.
>>343035796
>>343036049
>>343036084
Non of the extra bosses are ever the true final form or boss, they'll have a surprise factor but never outshine the final boss itself
I do feel they should mix it up so it isn't obvious or easy to predict though, maybe a new take and connection to an old boss that's surprising but isn't just an excuse to fight an old baddie again
>>343035796Dark Nebula
>>343036245
Just stop posting it, tier lists are silly, specially in Kirby where just about anything is OP as fuck if you know how to use it right and there are a few clear choices for easy power for those who want to just get it done (hammer, stone, archer)
>>343036286
Maybe have it be a severely corrupted back-up of star dream in a security drone?
>>343030116
VERY FAST WADDLE DOO GOING AT HIHG SPEED
>>343034920
KIRBY'S JUNGLE JAM
SPEAR, WATER, AND ANIMAL RETURN
MIKE KIRBY GETS A WHOLE MOVESET WITH UNNECESSARY DASH ATTACKS AND AERIAL MOVES, HAT CHANGE TO RASTAFARIAN
NEW ABILITIES: BAT (LITERALLY RESKINNED WING WITH SLIGHT CHANGES), MONKEY (KIRBY CAN DHALSIM AND DROP BANANA PEELS), TREE (PRACTICALLY STONE, BUT IT HITS UP)
WITH SUBMODES: DEDEDE'S BONGO BASH AND KIRBY CONGA LINERS
UNLOCKABLE MODE: BANDANA DEESTRUCTION
TONS OF KIRBY SOUND EFFECTS TO CUSTOMIZE YOUR BONGO EXPERIENCE
>>343036245
Then stop posting your shitty list.
>>343026385
My nigga
>>343036245
or you could just not postyourtier list
>>343026725
My nigga
>>343036691
So where do I preorder?
>>343018814
>Kirby's Epic Yarn
Wrong, the Kirby series is great when you start out wherever you start out but it is easy, dull and reuses so many assets it's impossible to understand how they get away with it. There are two exceptions, Super Ultra Deluxe and The Amazing Mirror
>>343034920
>a camera
I guess it's a Kirby version of Pokemon Snap. Or maybe Fatal Frame.
>>343037102
>There are two exceptions, the remake of an old game and the second GBA title with reused assets
>>343037102
Epic Yarn was a fun, comfy game. You may not like it but I wouldn't say it's bad.
>>343018814
Squeak Squad
>>343037102
>Epic Yarn is bad because it's easy and different but Amazing Mirror is good because it's easy and different
just beat PR true arena a second time with jet. man jet is great vs galacta knight as long as you dont get cocky and try to use the energy blast when you shouldnt.
>>343035796
Miracle Matter is the only choice. Imagine him using every powerup in Robobot.
>>343037102
>and reuses so many assets it's impossible to understand how they get away with it.
>mfw RTDL, TD, and PR look nothing alike aside from models
>>343037670
We need more bosses like Miracle Matter.
>>343037670
>>343037828
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni3IDCE9EfU
It took me way to long to figure out I should just kill the little fuckers Security Force summons mid battle instead of wailing away at his raised defense
Same for Haltmann's bot but I realized sooner due to how much health he has
>>343037670
>Miracle Ultra
>Miracle Flame
>Miracle Beam
>Miracle Bowl
>Miracle Hammer
>Miracle Nova
>Miracle Armor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni3IDCE9EfU
was the new game good? thinking of getting it tomorrow
>>343038064
best of the modern trilogy hands-down
>>343037670
>Finish Waddle Dee's Spear Run
>A warp star emerges from the background
>You fly to a corrupt version of Ripple Star
>Finish a hidden bonus stage and you come across Ribbon
>Miracle Matter emerges out of Ribbon
>this starts playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni3IDCE9EfU
>>343038064
Yes. Every second of it is worth it
>>343038064
Yea its pretty good, what other Kirby games have you played? did you enjoy them?
>>343038064
Better than triple deluxe and return to dreamland.
>>343038217
>Finish the mode
>Credits have Ribbon and the Fairy Queen congratulate him for saving Ripple Star
>Last two seconds of the credits showFairy Queen with evil eyes.
>>343037868
>>343037828
>>343037670
Miracle Matter is extremely underraded
Zero and the other matters get more attention and that's not fair
Then again he's just a twenty sided dice with eyes
>>343038220
Played Sqeak Squad, Super Star Ultra, and Triple Deluxe. Loved all of them but triple deluxe, don't remember playing much of it. SSU was a fucking amazing game
I'll definately get it though
>>343038064
Return to Dreamland was great
Triple Deluxe was even better and probably made you think it couldnt be topped
Planet Robobot proves that wrong and manages to be better
It's only flaw is difficulty and length isnt as much as Returns but that's not really a problem as far as Kirby games goes
>>343038589
The best part of miracle matter was how, in a game where ability combinations were touted as the main gimmick, it practically forced players to git gud with classic kirby suck and spit.
On another note, one of the failings of PR was the abundance of damage reduction on bosses, only mitigated by the brokenness of aerial moves.
>>343038589
I thought the design was cool. That fucking song too, unf.
If its attacks were faster and the corners weren't so safe, it would have been a great fight.
>>343038589
It's because 02 has a lot more menace than Miracle Matter and has a more freaky atmosphere, so it makes him a lot more memorable.
Plus he has ons of the best Boss themes.
>>343038796
Well most of the time its during phase changes which is identical to TD and a better alternative than just going invincible like in RtDL. Not being able to melt through everything all the time isn't so bad, specially when the boss is still there taking damage as opposed to in the background like a certain frog
Realistically how many defensive moves other than phase changes are there in the game? and how many are ended quicker by killing summoned enemies?
>>343039292
Pyribbit was a mistake.
That, Dark Meta Knight, and Sectonia Soul is the reason why I can't beat TD's True Arena.
I can beat PR's True Arena just fine though, don't know why people think it's more difficult aside from Stardream's instant KO move.
I love stickers, what are your favorite stickers?
>>343038217
>A Corrupt version of Ripple Star
Technically CS's Ripple Star was already corrupted
>>343039818
Gooey on one side, Rick on the other.
>>343039580
I found the healing to be more unforgiving. At least in TD you could save those tomatoes for use whenever you needed. The carried cherries makes it tougher on me to keep my health in good shape for the bosses I have more trouble on. And any boss fight where you clear with no damage is essentially a wasted cherry.
>>343039580
The final boss is pretty unrelenting, its a long battle with no breaks that had Galacta Knight right before it, plus you can't just cheese the Star Dream fight with stone and will take some hits somewhere, if you're lucky enough to make it to the core you're probably already really low on health. There's also the fact that health is distributed differently this time and you can't just save up on health, you also don't even get a Maxim Tomato, just a measly pep brew
>>343040165
The Cherry System is shit.
The only boss that fucks me over is Galacta Knight, so I can never have full health for Star Dream unless I use the Elixir.
>>343040385
>The Cherry System is shit.
Nah, it's great.
>>343040385
If they gave us the 5-slot Squeak Squad belly I could accept it but as it is right now it's painful.
>still no Marx
>still no Suplex
>still no Air Ride
Fuck
>>343041389
>Marx
He's deadder than dead
I really enjoy the backgrounds for the Arena rest rooms in PR, how its all connected and you go up with every fight, and the True Arena having these surreal and abstract backdrops
>>343041858
B-but Nova came back...
>>343042003
That wasn't Nova, reread the 100% scene in RtDL
>Tfw beat the True Arena as normal Kirby
That felt pretty fulfilling. What power should I do it with now? Already did it with Leaf & Wheel prior to Normal.
>>343042079
>>343042316
Oh shit I forgot about this. So multiple Novas. I know Marx split in half and all, but that nigger needs to come back.
Does anyone have that image of a Waddle Dee as Venom Snake from MGSV? I wanted to post that as a reaction but I can't find it anywhere in my image folders and it's bugging me.
>>343042586
>multiple Novas
Not even trying to be a nitpicking cock, but it's multiple *clockwork stars.* The two we've seen are named Nova and Star Dream. The distinction is important now
>>343041858
>>343042003
Well, Dark Meta Knight came back, after seeming being broken into several pieces in the previous game. Maybe Marx will return one day. There are no rules with Nintendo.
>>343042586
It's not out of the question. I mean maybe someone could wish him back, clone him or some other bullshit.
>>343042754
Please, eat my ass
>>343042804
>>343042871
Yeah there's a chance. I feel like Dark Matter or Nightmare will come back first with all of the super star shit we got in PR.
3D Rumble's first stage has a hidden Dedede flying about in the background, but I wonder if it is even visible in game considering he's fucking miles away from the actual environment and he doesn't animate any closer
>>343043173
You can rotate the camera with the N3DS nipple.One stage has Nova in the background.
>>343043173
Upon closer inspection there's a separate file for each stage and he's closer on the third, still funny to me they just threw him way off the map to hide him
>>343043358
Is that how you do it? fucking hell, I was wondering where and how that Nova screenshot came about and tried everything to rotate the camera, sucks there's no way to do it on a regular 3DS
>>343043358
On the topic of that Nova cameo, his sprite actually seems to be new art, its super low res but its definitely not the classic KSS sprite and a 3D render, most likely reused assets from the KSSU cutscenes
>>343042987
That's been my hope for a while now. I want to see Zero one last time.
>>343042754
>Not even trying to be a nitpicking cock
You're succeeding admirably. But if you want to get even more nitpicky, technically they're giant comets.
>>343043358
It's just the sticker, isn't it? Every 3D Rumble stage has a hidden sticker
>>343045305
He floats about in the sky, even has a little moving pendulum
Also the stickers are themed, Level 1 is spin offs (Canvas/Rainbow/Mass Attack), Level 2 is all animal buddies, and Level 3 is Adventure bosses
>>343045447
Do you know what stage Nova's in? That's so cool
>>343045603
Should show up on the stages in the last level, he's to the right, don't have an in game screen
>>343042079
Nova came back in Super Star Ultra
>>343043949
Why isn't he damaged anymore? He looked pretty ragged in MKU
Who here /autism/? I managed to collect dupes of every rare sticker via Streetpass after 1200 resets between two 3DS systems
>>343046874
Jesus christ anonTeach me your secrets, I may just try that to at least get some dupes of a few of the rares
>>343046874
Good job, anon. Now which two will you use?
>>343026015
what's wrong with squeek squad? it's just like all the other gba/ds kirby games
>>343047130
When you streetpass someone who has Robobot, Bandana Dee will give you a sticker the next time you see him in a level. If you have 100% sticker completion, it has a chance of being rare.
First, streetpass someone with Robobot. Then go into Area 2-1 and immediately quit out of the level, which will save Kirby's starting position as Area 2. Then from the Area 2 map go left-left to Clanky Woods, start the level, and say hi to Bandana Dee. If he throws you a blue sticker, quit the game from the Home menu and try again (this is the reason we set up Kirby's starting position as Area 2 - it's faster to get to Clanky from there if you reset). If he throws you a gold sticker, collect it and beat Clanky (Cutter is fastest if you know how to use it). Congrats, you have a duplicate rare sticker
I was using two 3DS systems with one game card, so when I began I had two new dupes every 8 hours. Keep in mind that if you're aiming for one particular dupe it could take you 1200 fucking resets like it took me.
>>343048208
two Haltmann logos, like the original Invader Armors
>>343049050
oh and forgot to mention that if you beat Clanky and it's not a dupe you want, you can quit to the Home menu and try again
>>343041389
>Magolor is redeemed
>Marx isn't
Why is this allowed?
>>343048586
If that is a serious question...
The length.
It is short enough to beat in a 2 hour sitting, with maybe an extra half an hour needed for 100%'ing the game.
Outside of the length, the mixing system is really, really underdeveloped.
Past that though, it's a pretty solid game. It just needed a more fleshed out mixing system, and probably 3-4x the levels.
>>343023771
She's great butClayciagives her a run for her money.
>>343042316
Is Nova like an elderly Clockwork Star?
Would that explain the stuff jutting out of him that Star Dream + AA lack?