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>press q to win: the game
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>Your team allowing the enemy reaper to get a full team ult

I came here to laugh at you, but I have no image.
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Improve your skill
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>>342986283
get styled on
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>>342986283
>press q to win: the game
>Justice rains from abv-augh!
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>Not hooking the reaper and filling his empty skull with scrap

Its time to receive the entire pig
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>>342986283
I am sorry you are so bad that you can literally not avoid or stop a person's ultimate.
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>>342986427
>implying reaper is the only meme-hero who you can press q to win
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>playing Reindhardt
>Reaper teleports behind us on the CP
>'DIE, DIE-'
>swing my hammer once and he dies
>mfw

Explosive Ults are fucking cancer tho, especially Cuckrat and D.Va
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>>342988262
Junkrat's ult is fine, as you hear it coming and can destroy it.

I don't think anyone dies to D.Va's ult unless they're really unlucky or the enemy team really coordinated.
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>get potg with reinhardt
>other team bitches
>"Nice holding left click there."
>ignoring that I killed 3 of them with my ult, E and charge.
>got my achievement for the kills
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>>342988626
>reinhardt gets potg
>potg shows him holding down lmb and turning around with max sensitivity
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>>342988508
Junkrat's tire needs like 25-50 more health. Even with taking less direct approaches to groups a Mercy can fart on it and it kills the tire.
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>>342988978
It's not meant to be something you just run up straight to the enemy team. That's why it has natural wall climbing.

It's perfectly fine.
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>>342986283
That might be the case if it wasn't RNG garbage that didn't work over half of the time.
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>mfw 9/10 times i either hook an ulting Reaper or boop them away as Lucio
Theres that odd time though where decent people combo his ult with another one and i can't do shit about it.
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>>342986283
>tfw your mercy keeps killing herself trying to heal people on the front line

Please. Please just live. Let those idiots come to you for heals and stick by the tank and medium range dps.
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>>342986283

See you in pros :^)
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>>342989331
>tfw I have a lot of awareness. See a reaper coming, throw my e right as he ults as pharah.
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>>342986283
>reaper gets a 4 person ultimate
>laugh as he rages when i get play of the game by smacking people around as reindhartd
>mfw
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>>342988978
so many junk rats are so potg hungry there overly greedy and fuck themselves over.
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Ya his ult is to strong. As someone who mains him, i think he should probably be re balanced. Him and Mercy are pretty much in the same boat, both of their ults need decent nerf's and have that power re-directed to their kits. Even in competitive these two have turned into cancer especially reaper. People just tech reaper for ult, they don't even use him to flank, or play him as a risky back line killer. He's a run,gun, and fun high risk/reward hero, not a camp and wait for ult hero.
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Man I'm so tempted to get this game but I don't want to part with my jewgold
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>>342991502
don't unless you got at least 2 friends to play with because this game is hell if more than half of your team is randoms
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Instead of play of the games they should instead have a short highlight reel of notable moments that happened the entire match, that way you don't see just one play that can end up lame.
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>>342986283
Why don't you just DIE DIE DIE?
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>>342988978
oh fuck no
if anything it needs LESS health
that thing ghosts a full fucking crew in half a second
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>>342986283
His ult should not hit above him.
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>>342988262
Most powerful ults are predictable as fuck since characters tend to fucking scream to the four winds they're going to attack a bunch of seconds before actually attacking.
You know you can just get the fuck out when you hear FIRE IN DA HOLE or It's hiiiigh noon.
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>>342988262
>Reaper teleports behind us on the CP

Sounds like a shit Reaper
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>>342991657
>on defense
>see player on team named Genji
>no, please do-
>he picked Genji
>he sucks
>he never changes
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>>342992184
was that on eu servers? because i once played against two fellas one named genji who played genji and one named reindhartd who played reindhartd needless to say they both sucked
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>Press Q to offer your team a momentary potential advantage
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>>342990771
I dont care about PotG until Blizz gets that shit fixed. What I care about is that as soon as the tire is even in the smallest line of site it is just destroyed with 1 hit from anyone. It makes the whole thing seem wasted. At least if a Pharah or Reaper gets killed mid ult they have still probably killed at least 1-3 people.
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>>342988978
It doesn't need more health, you just need to get good. The explosion range on it is much larger than you think. If a Mercy starts shooting it, blow it early instead of trying to get it right next to her, and you'll probably still take her out.
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>>342992274
It was indeed, and it's not the first time i've met him.
What a piece of shit.
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>>342991991
If you can't avoid a loud revving tire then you are probably the type of player who gets killed by Hanzo or Genji screaming their ult.
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>defense Hollywood
>enemy team is at the last point
>2 cunts are yelling at me that I'm a shit McCree (I am, I can't aim for shit)
>switch back to Junkrat
>FIRE IN THE HOLE
>Quad kill
>win

I'm tired of playing Junkrat on def. I just want to explore other options.
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>>342992826
Same with me as Widowmaker last night. I'm rank 9 and still finding my feet mostly playing Bastion, Zenyatta and Reindhardt but I thought I'd give sniping a go.
Two level 30+s called me out on being shit (which I was, and admitted) but not my fault I'm practicing on the same server as those prats
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>>342992826

I kinda know this exact feel.

I love Junkrat but theres a bunch of other characters I'd like to try out more (Mei, Symmetra, Zenyatta, Winston), but someone either fills up those roles, or we the composition REQUIRES him.

And then of course when I DO play someone else on defense, someone plays Junkrat and they're awful at it. Which makes me feel guilty.
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>>342992184
>be me playing Hanzo
>doing really well on him
>play with same group of people for like 12 games
>win everyone
>defense on Numbani
>do poorly and lose
>"OMG worst Hanzo ever."
>next game
>don't play Hanzo since you clearly can't
>motherfucker you didn't have any issue with me as Hanzo the last ten fucking games we played
>pick Hanzo
>he leaves
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>Standing shoulder to shoulder with your teammates when there's any kind of AOE hero nearby
Sigh
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>>342992826
>play a great shieldboy
>want to play winston because i love apeing around even though i'm terrible at it
>people complain and have to switch back to shieldboy
its not fair why do you faggots get to pick genji on defense but i can't have fun with a monkey
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>>342991997
>I'm hanzo
>dva throws her ult at us
>start running away immediately
>slow as fuck
>always die no matter what because of the huge blast radius
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>>342991997
>FIRE IN THE HOLE!
>Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Alright, where is it? I'll shoot that tire as soon as it OH FUCK THERE IT IS! *BOOM*

>I've got you in my sights/It's High Noon/Nerf this!
I'll just hide behind this wall until it's over.
...
Okay, that must have been long enough.
*BLAM*
>You will respawn in 5 seconds
or
One toe was sticking out

You definitely can stop/avoid any of these, but at the very least they're going to cause a large distraction and probably clear the objective.

Compared to
>Justice rains from above!
Oh, Pharah's using her ult. Where is she? Ah, there's a rocket contrail, now to just slowly line up the headshot... There. She's down and no one on my team took more than half damage.
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>>342993619

I was playing Symmetra on defense and holy hell she's fun. When you can anticipate when the enemy is going to move and your turrets kill them, it's very satisfying.

On Hanamura defense, at the last point, I just covered the mid hallway with turrets and the enemy team dared not to move in their. It's hilarious.

>>342993850

Winston is fun as hell in Lijuang. Literally he's made for clearing the field.
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>>342993724
I've got another one
>attack on Anubis
>two people pick widowmaker
>one picks Hanzo
>i say we don't need two fucking widowmakers
>they get super upset because they're friends
>"he wants to play widow okay just let him"
>okay then you pick someone else
>"no"
>they both suck
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>>342992826
>>342993850
Just play whoever the hell you want. Quick play is meaningless. When competitive comes out and you're playing that, yeah, worry about team comp, but until then go wild.
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>>342994281
yea me and my friends go triple winston on koth maps we call it Ape Escape
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>>342988262
>Two of the least useful ults in the game
Good for area denial, but not as good as the kits of those two heroes.
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>>342994327
>not going Widowmaker/Hanzo also and totally pissing the other team off
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>>342993619
dont feel bad . git gud with other toons mang . its what i did at lower levels .
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>Unlock pic related as my first Legendary
>Try playing McCree
>Miss with flashbang
>Miss with fan the hammer
>Miss headshot
He's the only character that I'm complete, unmitigated garbage on. I suck with a lot of other characters, but I'm not the unquestionable worst member of the team unless I pick McCree.
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>>342994423

I played with triple winstons on Attack King's Row. Was that you? All I did was Lucio and AOE heal. We also stomped the enemy team.
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>>342993850
pick him as a second tank and just always go after their flankers , healers and back line . prepare to live on health packs and timing jumps right and going grape ape to get out of pesky situations
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>>342994560
Now that he can't one shot people with two of his three abilities, he's a piece of trash.
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>>342986526
>pressing Q
>style at all

This is bait right?
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Do people still play this game?
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>>342994653
we haven't played in a couple of days now but if it was these past two weeks could very well be us
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>>342994281
hanamura def = easy mode , one torb , bastion and symmetra = win
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>>342994472
lol, that's actually what i did, we ended up having five snipers and no captures

thankfully they nerfed widow which scared most of the tryhards away
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>>342994753
This was pre-nerf.
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>>342994719
Winston's a great MT. Best defensive tank in the game if I may be so bold.
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>>342994896
I don't blame you, I'm actually shit with him too. My aim isn't bad, he just feels incredibly clunky.
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>>342994871
Ah, I've played a few all sniper rounds where the other team gave up after a couple of minutes. Not good on capture the point though.
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>>342994925

>Winston as main tank

No. There is only on main tank, and its Reinhardt. The other tanks are all situational or off tanks. Luckily, you don't need a main tank to win.
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Is there a better voice than Roadhog? Guy sounds terrifying
Zenyatta and Soldier 76 are a close second
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>>342987196
Pharah is the exception to the rule.
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>>342995732
i like japanese Reinhardt most
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>>342992826
Switch to Torbjorn
throw down the turret somewhere where it can offer support to the frontline but still hit people coming in from behind like tracers or genjis, then just rivet someone's shit in. Don't camp the turret, it only does 54 DPS at level 2
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>shoot reaper
>watch him wraith over
>flashbang
>fan the hammer
>he's still not dead
>kills me in one headshot
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
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>>342991657
>my friends are all casuals
>the game prioritizes placing you with other groups of the same size
>lose even harder when i play with friends
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>>342994809

only a few million, are you trying to be edgy or something
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>>342995867
I think Pharah's ult is the only thing that unquestionably needs to be changed in the game right now.
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>>342996701
Don't listen to this guy, all Blizzard games are dead.
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>its a zenyatta POTG
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>>342997185
>it will never be you
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>>342997185

Had it happen thrice.

Best was when I Q'd on Hollywood point A while an enemy Phara and a Genji were using their ultimates at 5 of us.
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>play mei
>tear shit up everywhere
>no fire ever
thanks blizz. it's not like i ulted four people and killed six before going down once only to have a hanzo ult badly once and get potg
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>play really well, pretty much carried the game towards the end
>PLAY OF THE GAME
>it's another "Hanzo presses Q and kills 4 of my full retard team" episode
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>>342997185
I got his light and shadow intro and the Sunyatta skin but I never thought I'd get to see a potg.

Then I got two of them a week later. One for a double kill/assist followed by tranquility, and the other for killing 4 people from behind a good Reinhardt. I swear his main attack + orb of discord can take out almost anyone with one headshot.
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>being bad at a game and complaining about easy to counter game mechanics

sure are a lot of shitters itt
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>play a skill-based hero like Genji, Mei, McCree, Zarya or Symmetra
>tear shit up
>PotG is a Bastion sentry holding down LMB
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It's funny because the ones that think the game is Press Q to win are the easiest retards to kill
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>>342986283
You can click q too, you know.
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>>342997185
>>342997365
Hi
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>mercy POTG
>presses q
>dies instantly
>2 awkward seconds of her corpse falling down and her team getting mowed down
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>>342996763

What's wrong with pharah's ult exactly?
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qqqqqqqqq
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>Attack on Numbani
>Playing my man Lucio
>Both teams doing pretty good, though my team gets pushed back
>We make it all the way to the final checkpoint before shit gets going
>Game goes into overtime
>Everyone's on the payload
>We're pushing, they're getting backed into a corner
>Ults everywhere
>VICTORY
>We get 3 cards, I got MVP at 87%
>Their Mercy gets a card
>Their entire team votes for Mercy
>Salty 6
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>>342999495
>Skill based
>MEI
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>>342996763
>what is d.va
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>>342999785
she dies in 2 seconds.
it immobilizes her for the duration
can't be cancelled early
its incredibly predictable
its super easy to avoid
is reflectable
fits into the sterotypical brown person blowing things up meme
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>>342999934
>salt based
>you
oh. it makes sense
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>>342999249
>I swear his main attack + orb of discord can take out almost anyone with one headshot.
you need two.but I think one can be bodyshot
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>>343000008
You've just got to be clever with it like McCree's ultimate and surprise the enemy team.
Or just do it on the ground.
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>>342999838
Reapers are so fucking predictable now that the Roadhog shouldn't have been such a retard and waste a fucking hook on a Reinhardt
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Why is it that getting killed by a Reaper makes me saltier than usual? Makes it worse if they have an edgy name.
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I've recently started using Mcree.
He's actually extremely fun if you can land those head shots.
Fan is absolute garbage most of the time, very good at killing very low healthy enemies tho.
He excels at mid range, but getting in close to use your flash is always a gamble since if there is more than 1 player you're probably fucked.
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>>342994070
You do know it requires line of sight, right? I can't imagine any place where you can't run away in time as long as you're not distracted by anyone else.
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>>343000067
>He unironically thinks Mei takes skill

Holy shit you can't make this up
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>>343000207
>changed my bnet tag to xXShadowSlaya666Xx just to main Reaper
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>>343000008

It has some downsides I'll agree, but here's my opinions on it from someone who plays Mercy in a pharmercy combo. You don't always have to save your ult up waiting for a big team kill, even my pocket acknowledged that he finds himself holding on to his ult too much and should use it more often when you need to quickly wipe out 2 maybe 3 people, such as tanks. Another thing I see a lot of pharah's do is they ult in the most predictable circumstances, if you ult in front of the enemy team guess what, you're gonna get shit on. Her ult is strong as a flank/surprise ult, unless you have a Mercy with you or you think you can burn people fast enough you shouldn't try to ult when their attention is on you. It's a very powerful ult, if you catch a team off guard you can wipe most of them before they can react, even with her audible cue. The only thing I would agree needs changing is make it to where she can cancel, other then that it's a powerful flank ability and ability to take down a small number of people quickly.
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>>343000254
>Attack, ToA
>Playing Genji
>Mfw deflecting McCree's flashbang right back at him the moment a teammate comes over so he gets stunned too
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>Every single Reaper
>Goes up high and waits 50 years to drop with Q
>Or uses wraith form to try to get into your team and then dies right when pressing it
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>>343000193
>Or just do it on the ground.
Kinda defeats the purpose, now doesn't it?
They could at least make the rockets home in. If you're shooting at more than two feet most of them don't hit shit because the spread is crapier than Roadhog's shotgun.
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>>342999838
I really do wish they'd nerf something about ultimates as a whole. Either the charge rate, make you lose all charge on death, fucking -something-, because I feel the game is a little TOO reliant on ultimates, and "Press button to instantly kill things" is a pretty lame "mechanic" overall.
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There should be a hero who can block healing and do DoTs
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>>343000513
As a fellow Genji player i ALWAYS wait for them to reflect before trying to flash them.
I've reflected so many flashbangs i know not to embarrass myself like that.
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>>343000665
>There should be a hero who can block healing
There is one. He's called SHOOT THE FUCKING MEDIC
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>>343000521

The best range to ult from I find is around the short end of mid range, you don't want to be too far away as the spread is too big, at the same time you don't want to be too close to be an easy target, ulting from above usually gives you the surprise factor, but ulting on the ground works two if enemies are approaching you, say like capping last point on anubis, ulting as they come out of spawn.
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>>342999976
They've already said they're going to work on a fix for her damage output and/or intake. They've never said they're aware of the "JUST-ARRRRRRGH!" issue.
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>>342999934
>has a difficulty rating of 3/3
>not skill-based
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God i fucking hate meeting good Hanzos.
Bad Hanzos still get 1000 kills per game by just lobbying arrows in a door.
Good hanzos use the exploding arrow 2 feet away from me and it explodes in my face instakiling me.
Not to mention how bad the tickrate/hitboxes makes it to avoid the arrow
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>>342999838
I tried that once and hit literally not a single person.
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>>343000990
>Implying that means anything
>Hanzo is 3 stars and somehow harder than Widow despite his huge hitboxes
>Lucio isn't 1 star
>Pharah is 1 star despite having shit splash damage and requires direct hits, and a shit ult
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>>343000193
If McCree is clever with his ult, the enemy team is wiped before they can find him, and he can go back to the objective. If Pharah is clever with her ult, she'll kill maybe a couple of people before getting shot down, and then she can spend some time watching the kill cam.

>Or just do it on the ground.
And get far less damage out, as half your rockets hit the ground.
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>>342986283
i have to admit it is boring to see that, junkrat, bast or torb POTG over and over, but since there isn't a way to determine this shit, why not show a quick montage of everyones cool shit?

i have gotten a damn nice double headshot that wasn't POTG because torb killed 3 people and was looking at a fucking wall.
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>>343001187
>Scattershot oneshots anyone up to zarya's hp and severely wounds winston and reinhardt and all it requires is shooting at their feet
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>>343001187
>Watching a Hanzo repeatedly pop in and out from behind cover not aiming anywhere just shooting whatever hits in the direction of the enemy
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>>343000990
>He thinks the difficulty ratings actually mean anything

Meifags everyone
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>>343000303
Highest level Mei play is much more skill based than highest level Bastion play.
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>win game where your team dominates
+0.1 rank

>lose game where 2 people leave and your teammates are retards
-5 ranks

fuck this game
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>>343001681
highest level mei play still gets shit on by any mid tier player.
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>>343001898
If that were true, people wouldn't bitch about Mei so much.
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>>343001514
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>>343001817
Is ranked mode out now?
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>>343002018
I just thought it was a hip new meme

didn't realize people were serious.
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>>343002018
People bitch about Mei because any encounter with a good or average Mei is a god damned ordeal you don't know if you're going to get out of or not.
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>>343000789
Just imagine the asshurt from healers when you just block their healing and their partner gets melted
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>>343002123
PTR
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>>343002123
PTR. Enjoy playing with Koreans.
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>>343000990
Reaper is american tho
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>>343002082
hahaha, that shit is perfect
it sums up every torb potg
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>>343002209
Professional Tennis Registry?
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>>343002298
>>343002123
Oh, and the shit you win in it doesn't carry over.
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>>343002414
why would something carry over from a beta to a non beta version
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>>342988978
I wish mercy would fart on me
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>>343002553
I wish you would hang yourself, freak.
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>>343002543
At least let the costumes and shit carry over.
I got the devil Mercy in PTR and now I'm fucked out of a rare costume.
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>game starts
>about 10 seconds in
>wow you're a shit tjoborn give me sheilds
>i cant the round hasnt started yet
>blames me when we lose

okay...
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>>343002628
preferably in my mouth
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>>343000665
I was playing hanamura on attack last night with randoms.
That was a mistake, but I digress. Anyway there was a Winston on the enemy team; he focused entirely on killing me, and no one on my team bothered to help protect me. Died like 15 times. There's your healer counter.

I don't even like playing mercy, but no one else was willing to heal.
I fucking hate this game sometimes.
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>>343002314
>reyes
He's a literal spic you moron.
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>>343002329
Widow's ass sums up every Torb PotG?
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>>343002896
>play Torb
>nobody takes your shields unless you directly forcibly throw them at them
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>>343003424
not quite.
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>>343000990
>Spraying around letting the freeze take effect
>then you have all the time in the world to aim at the head with a icicle
>People are shooting at you? just make the frozen safespace of trumbr
Don't forget to build walls when your team is using their ultimates
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>That clusterfuck on the last point of every payload map

It's not exciting when it happens every match
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>>343003424
>>343003882

i meant that torb does nothing to help, his turret does all the work. at least when im torb, i shotgun and hunt around the area, because at least by the time i die killing 1 enemy, respawn and get back, my turret killed 2 guys.

i try to help out beyond my turret and shields, its why i have a gun.
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>>343004101
>Drawn out by another 2 minutes cause of overtime

How hard is it to make Overtime not shit? Should've been that your team has to have more players on the point than the other team in order to contest in overtime
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>>343004370

Overwatch will always be shit as long as they allow hero stacking.
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>>343004370
nah, its TF2 rules too.
as long as ONE person is on the point, its contested. im fine with it. i just wish you could push mei when she is in icecube mode

maybe fix it so she couldn't break out, that she has to stay frozen until its over.
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>>343004490
what if the team size was increased?
i mean, i know its annoying, but then you could only have 1 character per team and sometimes having at least 2 can turn tables because people on your team would suck playing as another character.
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You know an enemy team is in dire straits when they start stacking winston
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>>343004648

Tf2 is balanced around the defenders having a longer respawn time. This is fair because both teams have advanced mobility options to get themselves back in the fray.

Overwatch heros have to plod back into the fight on foot. The closer the paylaod is to the defenders spawn, the less they have to travel.

You could balance this by increasing the defender's spawn timers they closer the payload is to the end.
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>>343004835
>3 winstons
>literally can't lose
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>>343004490
>t. shitter
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>>343004906

It might work on shitty players, but generally stacking Winston's isn't the best idea, characters like pharah and reaper easily shit on him. I see it happening sometimes on payload maps, we're almost to the end and the enemy starts pulling out winston's to stall, doesn't really work.
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>>342989331

Reaper is actually my favorite hero in a team stack, since I coordinate it with my team. Usually I flank with another person while the main force pushes up and forces the other team to engage.

It does feel insanely good to do a 4-6 man wipe with a good Reaper Q.
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>>343004921

Hero stacking was banned from Overwatch tournies specifically because it was too effective.
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>>342989521

>mfw some faggot keeps saying he needs healing while half a mile away from the team and me
>they keep spamming that voice command while I'm healing two other people


I get tempted to ignore them and not heal them at all.
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>>342986283
But anon, all players from both teams can press Q so your argument is sort of invalid
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>>343001586
You can't deny that her RMB is one of the hardest projectiles to aim properly in the game and her wall if misused can fuck your team just as much as the enemy.
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>>342992184
>>342992274

league of legends has taught me all about these people already
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>>343005128
The earliest tournies, before a meta developed. And lets be honest here, most tourney rules are bullshit. Hero stacking can be countered, often easily, and the fact that tourney rules say otherwise reinforces my belief that tourneyfags are sheep
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I've never played Overwatch, only looked at the porn. But reading this thread, the game sounds very interesting and has SF4-levels of meta.

It's weird how tracer is barely talked about, even though she is the Ryu of this game.
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>Junkrats ult clears an entire room
>Reaper's ult kills everyone in sight
>Tracers bomb does absolutely fucking nothing
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>>343005696
She's annoying to face. Problem is the toppest-tier heroes aren't annoying, they are deadly.
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>>343005785
>stick bomb to healer
>rewind
>instant free 3k or more
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>>343005696
Tracer is actually one of the harder heroes, if you suck as her you're definitely not helping your team. With other heroes you can still be sort of useful just by knowing their basic mechanics, but as Tracer (and a few others too) you pretty much won't do shit against anybody decent if you haven't gotten at least a little bit skilled with her abilities.
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>>343005785
Even tracer without her ult is pretty good. If her ult was more powerful she'd be overbearing.
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>>343005785
Tracer's bomb guarantees a free kill on almost any tank or Bastion, which is more than you can ask for from some other ults
It's also the most useful ult to combo with Zarya's
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>>342991657
easy remedy is just to play lucio with jsr soundtrack playin in the background. just parkour everywhere and dont give a fuck
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>>343005952

I always hate when we have a tracer on our team who never actually picks off backline classes, that's what she was designed to be, a pick class, but I see tons of tracers who don't seem to understand that.
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>>343004268
>Play Torbjorn
>I need armor!
>I need armor!
>I need armor!
How have people made it to level 50 without realizing enemies need to die before I can make armor?
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>>343004101
>their team has an annoying cunt tracer that keeps tagging the point and is a complete fuckall to kill
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>>343006219
no dispenser was a mistake
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>>343003227
he's a chicano from LA pendejo
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>>343006146
Yeah, I see them too sometimes. After ~120h in Quick Play I've pretty much come to the conclusion that it's useless to rage at incompetent teammates, it's not ranked and people don't give a shit about playing good comps or heroes they're good with. I can't always blame them either, with so many heroes you gotta learn sometime, and if not in quick play then where?

I sure as all fuck hope I won't get that sort of shit when competitive launches though.
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>>343005696
Tracer's kinda meh gameplay wise, at least compared to big assed ninja cyborg man. She also has an annoying voice, she definitely has her fans but characters like Mercy or D.VA are more popular for the sexually frustrated target audience looking for a waifu.

All the characters are boring stereotypes anyway, the TF2 mercenaries are far more fleshed out and interesting as well as feeling less forced
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>>343006301
that'd make me a god. torbs would be near impossible to kill and thanks to the devs, they made it so you can't sneak up on me by making the ENTIRE ENEMY TEAMS FOOTSTEPS LOUD AS FUCK.

yeah, you want to know why i knew you were coming Mercy? because you sound like a FUCKING HORSE CLIP CLOPPIN BEHIND ME FROM A MILE AWAY!
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>>342992826
i just got nomad skin for genji but never touched him and i've seen some cool genji shit but i know i'm just going to end up being randomshitter genji in the end

and theres always a genji
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>>343006662
>TF2 mercenaries are far more fleshed out and interesting as well as feeling less forced

yeeaaah no.
>LE RUSSIAN MAN LIKES SANDVICH'
>LE FRENCH MAN IS SNEAKY SPY
>LE ANGRY AMERICAN SOLDIER MAN

And it's not necessarily a bad thing that they're bland stereotypes, that's what adds to the charm of their characters. But don't pretend TF2 is more "deep" than something like overwatch. Both are equally shallow
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>>343006896
seriously you can hear footsteps half way across the fucking map
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>>343007036
>2007 heavy
>100% business killing machine

>2016 heavy
>POOTIS
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>>343007036
t. dude who's never paid attention to any of the character interactions, comics or videos made of the characters
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>>342991995
It's a sphere around him, this is why jumping off a ledge and ulting in mid air works so well
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>>342986283
>Stand in base
>Press Q
>Hit nobody
>Don't get play of the game

WOWWWWWWW
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>>343005952
>tracer
>skill
>post mccree nerf

Top lel

Genji and Tracer are now the easiest classes to play in the game. Literally nothing can stop you except your own fuckups.
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>>343007334
mcree can still kill tracer with a single fan retard
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>>343006053
>free kill on almost any tank
What the fuck are you smoking?
It does 400 damage, the only tank it could oneshot would be a Zarya and that Zarya is just gonna press shift to negate it anyway.
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>tfw a vidya character finally shares your name
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>>342996763
she needs to be able to move while doing it
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>>343006615

Oh, you'll get the same in competitive probably. I know in Siege you still get horribly incompetent teammates through public matches, only now they are loud mouths who blame every death on someone else.
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>>342998946
worse is after you do your ult or something to whittle everyone to pretty much no health and someone elses ult tickles them all and they get potg
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>>343007397
except it requires so many bullets to hit on such a tiny frame that it almost never happens.

What's really worrying is how that Genji can get stunned, mash E and if the McCree goes for a FtH the Genji can bounce the last 3 shots into him and kill him with a right click.

This means trying to use the combo to counter one of the characters Blizzard said would still work on will actually get you killed
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>playing Hanzo
>hitting insane crits, capping points, shutting down ults
>everyone is talking about this Hanzo
>41 eliminations, PoTG, other team calls me Mr. President
>get 12 commends because hell yeah I commended myself

And I never had a good Hanzo game again.
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>>342999856
>Implying voting for your teammate isnt the right thing to do
The worst is when the enemy team has 7 votes cause it means one of your team turned traitorous.
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>>343007449
Is this you?
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>7 minutes left until we win
>enemy payload almost at last point
>switch to Bastion
>win
now this is balance
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>>343007334
>being slightly less likely to die somehow makes the character's mechanics less difficult to use.

That's not how this works.
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>>343006219
How many (You)'s made it to level 50 without realizing the "I need armor!" call-out isn't there specifically for you, but it's just what you see as Torbjorn when said players are asking for healing.
Just like Symmetra hears "I need shields" when someone on the team uses the heal callout.
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>>343007609
I get one good game as a Sniper in any shooter about once every 3 months.

The sad thing is we still lost. The team was hopeless so I said fuckit and when Widow to fuck around and I lit them enough to draw an Overtime which we still lost
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>>343007757
Serves them right for relying on scrub tactics
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>>343007757
fuck you and your family
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>Nearly all my POTGs have no Ult usage
>Only one in recent memory is Pharah but I got 3 non-Ult kills and the POTG feature gives directs with rockets a lot of weight
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>>342995732
death-death-death is a whisical-death
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>>343007757
>can't shut down a single bastion

dumb frogposter

even dumber team though
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>>343007334
McCree deals way more than enough damage in 1 fan to kill Tracer. I'm pretty sure event simply flash + headshot while stunned will kill a Tracer, don't even need flash.

Also
>Literally nothing can stop you except your own fuckups.
So you need to know how to play the hero and then on top of that you need to play well and not fuck up. Don't you see how you're contradicting yourself?
If Tracer and Genji were "easy" you could get some shit done even if you suck ass. Like, there's a big difference between a good Mercy and a shit Mercy, but even the shit one will know to heal. Even a shit Rein will know to hold RMB, even if he sucks ass at using his charge and ult. A shit Tracer or Genji will get destroyed immediately without doing anything useful at all.
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>>343007757
I can take a bastion out with helix rocket and a couple left clicks with Soldier with zero problems. Bastion is far from overpowered, and is rarely an issue for my team.
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>>342986283
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>tfw realize 76 is one of the most well-rounded heroes in the game
>tfw use the fuck out of even though he is boring and has no personality
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>>343006053
>tanks
It doesn't guarantee a kill on any tank. ~200 health left over is still a lot of health. Bastion can also survive it if he has ult, whereas sustained damage ults would most likely kill him while he transformed.

>It's also the most useful ult to combo with Zarya's
>not Pharah or Reaper's
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>>343004781
a mode with 8v8 or even 7v7 would be great

not asking for 12 vs 12 or anything. just up the limit by one or something
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>>343008172
>Grizzled hard ass veteran of far too many battles that's so disillusioned with red tape bureaucracy and modern military that he has decided to find the answers he needs and any costs, and by any means
>no personality
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>>343008172
>took you this long to realize that a hero with good mobility, an AoE heal, pin-point accuracy at all ranges, and burst potential though helix rockets is good
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>literally can't win a single game
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>>343008415
>implying that isn't a generic as fuck backstory
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>>343008223
>zero-risk instant 400 damage to the whole group is less useful than ults that can be interrupted or killed
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>>343008104
Bastion is a tool. Even in comp 55+ I whip him out if the enemy team comp lacks DPS, and usually hit 2-3 gold medals.

I get most of my bastion kills by moving every 2-3 kills. If they aren't prefiring or rein shielded they are at best breaking even.
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>playing Lucio
>some fag picks Mercy
>dies because he followed a retard who went in too deep
>"If you guys aren't gonna protect me, I'm not gonna support"
>k
>D.Va right by our spawn fucking around
>speed boost and walk the team right by her, the D.Va was retarded or something
>the mercy decides to try fighting it
>"wow u guys all just left me right there with the D.Va wtf"

Stop expecting people to suck your dick if you're mercy, holy shit.
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>>343008563
Hey, nothing beats the classics
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>>343007735
Nope, but bless him and his stupid beard for getting another Jesse out there.
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>>343008627
surprise Bastion is the best shit. You can wipe a goddamn team with a surprise bastion, but it only works once or twice against a team that isn't braindead.
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>>343008134
>>342986283
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>>342994560
Are you me? Same here I suck with him and I don't feel that he is really strong.

He falls short at close range since many other heroes are more mobile and good teams travel in packs so I only see success killing tracers and genjis.

Mid range his DPS is too low. I could play S76 and do way more and since the shots are so slow most people can just run off.

Long range he gives even less damage but he's pretty accurate. Good luck killing anything at this range though.

Its a cool costume but I'll never use him and its my only legendary skin too.
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>>343008621
>jumping close to the entire enemy team with 150 hp
>no risk

>Tracer ult
>instant
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>>343007757
you can easily spot a garbage player if they claim bastion is OP and can't come up with the metric fuckton of counters for him
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>>343008745
If you didn't know, his name is literally Jesse McCree and he is an artist and storyboard dude that's worked at Blizzard forever.

I guess ever since he started there he's had people at Blizzard constantly tell him he has a great cowboy name so that's why they named McCree after him.
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>>342992184
Holy shit I think I played with that guy
He was awful
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>>343008804
its why you move to another point, like when i snipe, i move after getting 2 kills or so. people expect you to be in a certain place, so they try to flank you and there i am, popping their head when they come down that side corridor
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>>343008964
>3 mini teleports
>can teleport and regain hp as well
>high risk
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>>342986283
>press q to win: the game

sure, why not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD7SAFzXSSo
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>>342986283
Shut the fuck up you stupid piece of shit. Ultimates are supposed to be powerful you twat. Point me to one ult that takes "skill", these fucking dipshits...
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>>342994560
The spread on fan is pretty unpredictable
I've seen some people miss point blank sometimes and other times nail a Pharah in the air with it
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>tfw you consistently get potg as symmetra and non of them with ult usage because your ult is a fucking teleporter
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>>343009341
There's a problem when the power of an ability isn't proportional to it's execution difficulty.
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>>343009398

So you hold W+M1 and jump around a lot.
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>>343008104
if he is in a good spot he can be the strongest hero and only bastion apologists (who are likely mains) says that bastions are underpowered (which they aren't).
Should bastion recive a nerf? maybe, just the fact that he becomes the biggest threat on the battlefield is not a good sign. escpecially when there are a reinhardht and a mercy to help him out. That combo is almost impossible to counter.
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>>343008621
>to the whole group
It has a tiny range. Like every single hero in this game has either a mobility or mitigation ability.
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>>343009270
>implying that matters when you die to a stiff breeze and you're jumping directly at the entire enemy team in one place
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>>343002018
People bitch about Mei because the idiots keep trying to 1v1 her up close.
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>>343009535
>We're still basing this shit on usage and not win rate
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>>343009635
>not parameterizing every aspect of the game and running it through a simulator

Win rate doesn't tell you the reasons for why things happened.
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>>342986283
Honestly ults charge way too fast in this game
>hunting down some asshole reaper/rein/genji/hanzo
>they are almost dead and I'm at full health
>they use their epic q button to kill me, and me alone
I mean I should be glad that they just wasted their entire ult on a single person, but when I come back it seems they have it charged right back up again. I swear I found a reinhardt once that used his ult literally every time I encountered him, and it was a koth map so this was often.
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>>342986283

OH NO fuck off with that bullshit.

I just got through fucking playing as Reaper and I was styling on motherfuckers the whole game. I STILL didn't even get Play of the Game because of some Torb letting his crappy turrets doing all of the work.

Goddamn Torbies. I have to work twice as hard to get Play of the game when these motherfuckers are playing.
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>Be Genji
>Behind enemy lines
>Killing people
>Low on health
>Our Mercy says "Fuck this shit"
>Flys towards me
>Pockets me
>Uses herself as bait
>Buffs me
>Over a full minute of us fucking them up near their spawn
>Mercy gets PotG in the end too
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>>343009504
i finally ran into that the other day
i ONLY could counter it because of their positioning and my skill with bouncing nades as rat.

took me a while though since their 3 other teammates were somehow overpowering the other 5 fucking people on my team.
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>>343005785
>instant kill on bastion, every support, every squishy

It's pretty good. If you can into flanking it means you can stick anyone you want, rewind back and push in with your team while the enemy is down a member. In clusterfucks, it means you can kill two people pretty easy too.
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>>343009535
>Mei: The immortal god of duels who is practically invincible and can bring any fight to a hault
>F Tier
shit list
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More people are learning how to counter Bastion that playing him is becoming just a slight challenge
That being said I really like playing him in Recon mode
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>>343010325
It'll always be a shit list until they start compiling lists with win rates
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>>343008849
Best tactic to use against him

>Normally play Reinhardt
>Reaper wraiths in
>Shield up
>DIE, DIE, DIE
>The second he is done, charge
>If he ain't dead, Flamestrike
>Go back looking for real men to fight
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>>343010325
>Be far away
dead Mei

>dont 1v1 her
dead mei

>shes in her icicle
useless to her team

>she gets out
nuke her with a friend

mei isnt all that good enough though i like using her
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>Like playing Rein
>But I play him all the time
>Want to try someone else
>lose because we don't have a good Rein
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