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Which game are you more hyped for, /v/?
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Which game are you more hyped for, /v/?
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>>342981218
both look like shit

BF1
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Zelda.

FF7 Remake is just going to be another corridor running simulator.
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>>342981218
An HD remake from modern square of a game everybody played or possibly the best zelda game of all time?
Hmm....
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>>342981218
A fucked up remake or a new interesting Zelda. You know which one.
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>>342981218
Zelda.
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>>342981218
Both are equally uninteresting
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>>342981596
underage please leave
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>>342981218
FF7 no contest, Zelda looks like shit.
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>>342981218
both
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Zelda's at least coming out within the next year so Zelda
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Zelda of course. It's going to be incredible
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>>342981218
We've actually seen more than 5 seconds of gameplay from Zelda so that.
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>>342982489
weeb pls go
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>An interesting game or a shitlooking popfest?
I dunno OP
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>>342982935
your underage is showing
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>>342981218
Well since you can't change the gameplay of a game that isn't out yet Zelda is the winner
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>>342981218
XV.
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>>342981218
The one that isn't episodic.
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>>342981218
Persona 5
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>>342981218
Zelda. I won't buy FF7 until every episode has been released.
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>>342981218

I've never understood the appeal of an FF7 remake. Everyone seems to be saying they were waiting for this for years.

It will never have the charm of the original. It already looks like they have bypassed the original vibrant and memorable designs for these cgi pseudo realistic ones.

The ps1 game had this strange but comfy atmosphere that this one will never have.
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>>342981218
Zelda. Easily.
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>>342983646
And here comes the weeb.
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>>342981218
Zelda

>>342984030
I would have been excited for FF7 if they didn't butcher the battle system.
Turn based JRPG's are the best JRPG's. I don't want the shitty combat system they're giving FF7 remake.
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>>342981218
Episodic cash-in from new square or Skyrim with gameplay. Gee I wonder.
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FF7 is my GOAT
but Zelda, easily.
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Neither really

When has an episodic game EVER been good?
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>>342981218
Never had any interest in Final Fantasy before, and BotW looks like a bunch of new stuff for a Zelda game, but a bunch of stuff that's already been done before in other games.

I'm more hyped for Ni No Two-ni.
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>>342981218
I absolutely love FF7. And I am indeed excited for FF7Re. But it's still a lukewarm excitement at best. And I have to admit that I am far, far more excited for Zelda.

1. FF7Re is episodic. When Zelda comes I know I'll be getting a full game.
2. They made FF7Re an action game which is not what I am looking for in my FFs. But I am sure it can still be fun unless they fuck it up.
3. I would indeed love to play the game in a world rebuilt for 3D and modern technology. But it's ultimately a game I've already played through more than once. While the new Zelda game is not a remake.

Actually for many of the same reasons I am more excited for FFXV than I am for FF7Re. But when it comes to FFXV I am a lot more worried than I am with Zelda. So Zelda is still the game I am the most excited about.
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>>342981218

Zelda
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>>342981218
neither appeals to me.
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>>342984030
Back in the old days when I was still a young man, Squeenix showed off a PS3 tech demo that recreated the opening cutscene for FF7 in stunning high quality 720p, and there really isn't anything more to it than that. People got a brief taste of what a modern day FF7 would be like and have been demanding it for a decade before they finally gave it.
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>>342981218
Why are fuccbois so popular all of a sudden?
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>>342981218
neither
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>>342984659
It actually isn't "episodic" that was a term coined by some retarded e celeb.

It will be in 3 separate full games.
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>>342984778
Zelda has always been a fuccboi and cloud likes to dress as a girl to get fucked by fat gangsta overlords.
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>>342984851
>It will be in 3 separate full games.
That's exactly it though. That's what I meant.
I guess I could have said "parts" or something. Cue point being though, I am not getting the full experience until the last part.
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>>342981218
one is saving zelda
one is ruining final fantasy

gee i wonder
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>>342981218
Zelda. Nintendo tends to make better games than Square.
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>>342984870
I hate to break it to you, anon, but Zelda is the princess, not the guy you play as.
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>>342981218
We will actually get to play the new Zelda game. FF7Remake will get delayed and eventually cancelled. Game assets moved to another game which will also get delayed. SE are great lads.
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>>342985206
I disagree.
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>>342985206
Nah, Zelda is the guy, that's why it's called Legend of Zelda
Ganon is the princess
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>FF hasn't been good in 16 years
>Zelda hasn't been good in 10 years, aside from ALBW

Neither, I'm afraid. I'll still play the FF VII remake to see how the localization is handled though.
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>>342981218
Zelda looks like GOTYAYEY.
FF7 Remake looks like dog shit tbqhwy.
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pretty sure this thread is just to show how many nintendrones there are here. anyway, i really don't want either. ff7 without the combat that made it great won't be fun.
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>actually still interested in the ff7 remake after all that has been told
>what
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>>342983195
your overage is showing
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>>342984347
FF XIII: LR has the best battle system of any JRPG I've played. I still love the old ATB, but they nailed fighting better than any other FF game in LR.
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>>342985587
leave faggot
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>>342981218
Cloud looks anorexic
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Final Waifu VIIR to be honest.

I'm a fan of both series but I honestly want to see how they changed VII since the original was so campy at times whereas this one looks grimdark.
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>>342985686
>FF XIII: LR has the best battle system of any JRPG I've played.
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Still kinda scared about ff7 remake...Hope all the character are playable and I wanted turn based gameplay.
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FF7R
just until square enix fucks up tifa's design then I'll abandon ship and will be all about that zelda life.
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Zelda as I played FF VII years ago and beat this so many times. Also I don't like the changes they are doing with this remake that it's going to be like FF XIII which I don't like very much, linear and without world map.
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FFVII Remake
Square Enix will come up with a fuckton of pre-order DLC that is ALSO retailer-specific, meaning I'd have to spend several hundreds of dollars to do a complete playthrough of the FFVII remake. I don't think I can hate any video game company more than Square Enix.

TLoZ BOtW
I sometimes dream about BOtW and wake up with a raging erection. I have never been this hyped for anything ever.
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>>342985328

>10 years

I meant 13.
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>>342985686
You haven't played many JRPGs have you?
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>>342985745
you first pajeet
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>>342984030

I dunno it always felt like something wanted by a vocal minority, at least among my group of friends.
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>>342981218
The one that doesn't like it came out on Gamecube.
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>>342981218
I won't be buying VII Remake as they broke it into pieces its going to be a disaster. I just want Final Fantasy to be like before PS2 era just with modern mechanics is that so much to ask Square? I can't believe that today with all the technology and big budgets they can't make something like that while during PS1 era they could.
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>>342981218
Zelda

Never played FF games so I really couldn't care less.
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>>342986265
That's okay, pal. When I was your age, I was enthralled by my first open world rpg, too!
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>>342985686
Was LR your first relatively real time JRPG battle system? It's one of the weaker ones
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The one that doesn't pander to gays and women.
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zelda will be day one buy, i can wait for the remakes price to drop since FF7 isn't really new anyways
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Lmao /v/ is literally the only place that prefers a shitty Zelda game to the FF7 remake
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obviously ff7 whoever who said otherwise is totally retarded or underage, fuck you all
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>>342986923
Agreed
Zelda was never good. Only manchildren like it
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Zelda of course. Those games are always at least entertaining and this one looks better than the last three zeldas.

I always wanted an FFV or VI remake like we got with III and IV so I'm still salty about that.
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>>342987054
>underage or retarded

how did you come to that conclusion? We've already played ff7 (It was fucking shit btw) whereas zelda is new and promising
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>>342986923
What is with some of you and this nintendo gaf thing? None of them would ever come here to post
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>>342987542
well im sorry for you
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>>342986923
only third worlders care about FF7 though
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>>342987542
>Zelda is new and promising
Maybe for you nintencuck
It's a shitty generic skyrim copy
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>>342981774
This is what I fear. I fear modern Square is just gonna shit it up and then say "This is what you asked for!"
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I can't say i'm hyped for 7:remake because they are pulling that 'split the game into 3' bullshit, and i'm not doing a rolling release playthrough of a game I played over a decade ago.

as for zelda I don't own a nintendo and have no plans to in the future.
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>>342987542
>new and promising
It's just Horizon with more colors.
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>>342981218
neither.

nier automata, man's sky, we happy few
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>>342981218
The new mainline metroid. Oh wait.
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>>342981218

FF7HD.

The last time Zelda was good was the SNES era.
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Oh, look yet another Zelda game for an entirely new console that will probably last about two years before fading into obscurity like the previous two consoles.

Why the fuck are you people even considering buying an NX for this shit? Did you learn nothing from the Wii/Wii U?

FF7Remake or bust.
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>>342988267
Horizon is also a new franchise, what the fuck? It was announced at the same time as horizon. What retarded ass justification is this?
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>>342987894
You think breath of the wild plays similar to skyrim? I'm not the nintencuck, you're an "anti" fanboy. It's much worse
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are you guys fucking forgotten the 2015 e3 remake anouncement ? the happiness and ilusion for the happening ? fucking god i watch it every week since then and im fucking over hyped for ff7 remake my god i cant wait to release
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>>342987827
thanks for answering the question faggot
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>>342987494

I always thought people were crazy for wanting remakes of FF VI or anything considering what a shitty company SE is. I'm even more perplexed now that people STILL want it after the butchery that FF VII's remake is clearly going to suffer.
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>>342988408
>opening his gaping wallet three times to get full access to a butchered remake of a game he played 20 years ago
Squarecucks are worse than Nintendrones honestly.
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>>342988545
>anti

We say "hater" in English. Are you from 2ch?
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>>342981218
neither
FF and LoZ are the two worst ongoing game series to date
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>>342988968
Not him but those words are used interchangeably.
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Zelda, I already played FF7.
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>>342988785
I don't want a remake of VII tho. The original was already in 3D.

Have you played the remake of IV? It's pretty damn fun and V is the best FF.

Of course BD made that largely redundant for most people despite being a much much worse game.
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>>342984851
You literally just defined the term episodic retard
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>>342989223
"Anti fanboy" sounds bizarre.
"Anti" (アンチ) is used a lot on 2ch.
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>>342984851
It isn't a full game if it's literally taking a game that exists and chopping it in thirds.
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>>342989325

>I don't want a remake of VII tho. The original was already in 3D.

I never implied that you did, I'm calling you crazy for wanting an FF VI remake after seeing how much they're already shitting on FF VII.

The IV remake is alright, its best feature is the fact that it has the best English localization to date, but at the end of the day, I prefer the SFC hardtype version.
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FFXV.
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>>342989546
You mean like the original FFVII? Good to know.
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>>342981218
death stranding
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>>342989501
"Anti" seems to be a big Japanese and Korean loan word, but it's pretty much all over now. I mean Rihanna just released that album called ANTI which refers to that idea.
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>>342988968
>We say "hater" in English
No, we don't. Teenagers and celebrities popular with teenagers say that
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>>342984851

It was referred to as a "split work" in Japanese news sources, which is the same thing as episodic.

No matter how you look at it, they're still taking what was once a full game and splitting it into three.
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>>342989702
Yeah splitting up a game onto three discs due to storage limitations, discs which you have immediate access to with a one time purchase, is exactly the same buying three separate episodes of a game over the course of a year.
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>>342981218
Neither

I chose Nioh
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Zelderr
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>>342981218

FFVII
>Chopped Battle system
>Chopped episodic Game
>Modern-Squeenix


BotW
>Zelda game not attached to a gimmick (yet)
>While trying something new, keeps core gameplay relatively same.


Wow, this is so very Hard.
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>>342989886
teens say anti too, just check out twitter
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>>342985084
>>342989367

No. Episodic means they will put out an unfinished game and update it every so often. Completely different.

>>342989546
>>342989953
They're splitting it into 3 different games. Which means they're going to expand upon it too, it isn't going to be piece for piece the same as the original. Just like how XIII had three parts, VII is going to be similar.
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>>342989702

>Distributing a game across three discs due to technical limitations
>Three discs which come in one package for one price
>The same as a game split into three parts, released at different times, with their own price tags, because the company wants more money
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>>342989575
Well I like both versions myself but I care more about the gameplay than the story since every FF before V was shit story wise.

Which is why I wanted them to keep going with the DS remakes.
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>>342990245

>it isn't going to be piece for piece the same as the original. Just like how XIII had three parts, VII is going to be similar.

Yeah, too bad no one ever asked for that.
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>A remake versus a new game

Also FF7 is honestly the most overrated game of all time. It's like being pumped for a Zelda 1 remake. Who gives two shits. They were neat games at the time given the scope of gaming, but by modern standards? Shit. 100% shit.
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>>342990280
>each game will be the same length as one of the original FFVII discs

Huuurrrr
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>>342981218
Why should I choose? I'm getting both. On the NX
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>>342990290

>but I care more about the gameplay than the story since every FF before V was shit story wise.

Same here. I just like the older gameplay better. The games I play for story are exceedingly few.
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>>342990245
They're just going to cut the FFVII story up into 3 parts, and add filler and twists where necessary to not make the cuts absolutely terrible.
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>>342990384
Who cares what you personally wanted you faggot. They're going above and beyond with this remake, it's going to be huge in scope and it might even have a whole prelude to VII.
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>>342990245
The FFXII series was three $60 games. If they're going that route with FFVII, you're trying to justify paying $180 for a game you already played that used to cost $50 back in the day (and that you can get on Steam for like $8).

Unless each "game" has equal length and content of the original FF7, there is no justification for blowing all that money on a fucking remake.
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>>342990495
Why are you trying so hard to justify your bias? VII is already in 3 parts and they plan on expanding on everything.
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For Honor all the way
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>>342990683
changing a disc is not buying a new part you absolute moron.
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>>342990612
>Unless each "game" has equal length and content of the original FF7

That is EXACTLY what I'm saying. Holy shit dude, this was confirmed a while ago. It isn't episodic, it is 3 full complete games to expand on and remake FFVII. They know people have been asking for a remake which is why they're going all out.
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>>342990683
>VII is already in 3 parts
And all parts were sold in the same package with the same release date.
I am not trying hard to justify my bias. Why are you trying so hard to argue that selling the game in different parts is somehow the equivalent to selling the game as one package even though it is not?
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>>342990568

>Want money from the fans
>The fanbase doesn't want that
>Fuck the fans

I don't even give a shit, I don't care about the remake at all, I've never been interested the idea of a FF VII remake.
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>game that I already have
>vs
>new game
its a tough decision
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>>342990962

That's a godawful argument.
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>>342990847
It isn't buying a new part but it is still technically in 3 parts. And the remake isn't the same exact thing as FFVII's 3 discs but spread out for $60 each like you're suggesting you moron.
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>>342990913
>Why are you trying so hard to argue that selling the game in different parts is somehow the equivalent to selling the game as one package even though it is not?

The 3 parts in the original VII makes up one game. The remake is taking those parts and making them their own full game, they are adding a lot to it all around. It isn't the equivalent of that at all and I'm not trying to argue that. What I'm arguing is that what you think is happening isn't happening.
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An open world sandbox tech demo from 2009.

or

One of the best JRPG's brought into the modern era with action focused combat which it was literally originally based off having but couldn't be executed properly due to the technical limitations at the time.

>Nintendrones are hyped for a tech demo

I still can't believe how good Nintendo is at marketing though, they have so much real estate that they can literally advertise a shitty tech demo with shit graphics for 8 hours and people will fawn over said game for months on end, pretending like what they saw was great gameplay.
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>>342990932
Who are you to say the fan base doesn't want what? People have been asking for a remake for a long time and very strongly. Square knows it is a big opportunity which is why they're putting a lot into the project.

You don't have to be interested either I'm just saying the game isn't episodic, it's simply expanded into a trilogy.
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>>342991291
>What I'm arguing is that what you think is happening isn't happening.
So all the parts are going to be sold on the same date is that what you're saying?
Because if not then I think is happening is most definitely happening. They aren't selling the full game at release. Just the first part, or the first game if you so insist on not calling it the first part.
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>>342991084
>but spread out for $60 each
Exactly, and only an absolute moron would buy into that shit.
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>>342991331
I doubt it'll be action based, my bet is they're going for XIII-style of combat, but a more slower paced to allowed control of multiple party members and ditching paradigm shift.
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>>342990126
>Zelda game not attached to a gimmick (yet)
>While trying something new, keeps core gameplay relatively same.
Have you even played a Zelda game? The gimmick is the time stopping bullshit and everything being physics based, which is likely going to feel like lazy an uninspired shit.

>gameplay relatively the same
For how much is new I guess you're right here though. Basically the character functions the same as usual and traditional items still exist.
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>>342991021
you're a godawful argument
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>>342988267
Does Horizon give me the ability to make a working catapult out of common physics objects on the overworld?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch_i9ovV2KI
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>>342991543

I'm basing my info off of what I've been seeing people say for years and since the remake was announced. There's always someone who's okay with changes, but the majority it seems or at least the loudest ones, basically just want updates to the visuals, gameplay, and localization. It's not a bad idea to expand on it really, that's what a remake should do, but I'm sure some of it is just a cash grab considering the state of the industry. But whatever, I'm not buying it anyway, I'm just going to pirate it because I was to see where the localization improves and gets worse. That's literally the only thing I care about.
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>>342991580
>They aren't selling the full game at release.

Actually they are. Each "part" is a full fledged game. These aren't the size of each disc of the original game at all, each release of the remake is a full game.

>>342991615

>reading comprehension
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>>342986435
Both of you are faggot, so you'll fit right in here on /v/
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>>342991291
>The 3 parts in the original VII makes up one game
Wasn't the whole multiple disc thing just so that they could fit on the FMV cutscenes? That was literally the only difference between the content on the discs, and the whole reason for a multiple disc release iirc.
There's even an exploit that I've seen speedrunners use where you can change discs midway through disc 3 to load shorter FMVs.
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>>342992084
we are 1 faggot?
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Literally every new piece of info I hear about FF7R deflates my hype more and more, whereas news about BotW has had the opposite effect.
So Zelda, easily.
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>>342991916
Is this a game or a tech demo?
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>>342982489
this
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>>342981218
Can't really say I'm interested in either.

As soon as Majora's Mask hit, I lost all interest in Zelda as a whole.

FFVII remake is going to be a completely bastardized, censored mess cut into episodes, so it can fuck right off.
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>>342991823

>Time Stopping

Oh boy.
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>>342991916
I can do that in minecraft
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>>342992017
>each release of the remake is a full game.
You keep repeating this. And I don't give a fuck about how "full" they are. Each individual part can be twice the size of the full original FFVII for all I care.
They aren't selling all of them on the same date. We're going to get annual games and it'll take ages before it's concluded.

I won't be able to play through the full story until they've given us the last game.
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>>342981218

>Implying i can't be hyped for both

One is a remake and the other is a the next step in a series

So probably Zelda

but again im hyped for both
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>>342981596
>liking a game starring a nigger

sjw nu-male cuck liberal blm jew pls go
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>>342981218
Why not both you cucks
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>>342992017
>Actually they are.
I won't be able to buy all of FF7Re at the moment of release. So no they aren't.
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>>342992649
>I won't be able to play through the full story
You could always play the original if that's what you want.
The remake will probably just pad it out with compilation shit, as much as I hope that isn't true.
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>>342992939
Better than a game starring a eurocuck manlet fatso plumber with jew tumblr nose
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>>342993059
>/v/
>Being capable of appreciating multiple things at once
Why do you think console wars exist?
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>>342993108

Don't forget that they have to handle Wall Market carefully now, so some stuff is getting changed.
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>>342992649
>We're going to get annual games and it'll take ages before it's concluded.

This release model allows Square to afford AAA game development in the current climate while minimizing losses, it's actually a pretty smart model. The advantage is that it allows them to technically make more of the game and gives them the space and time to focus and develop it properly without having to worry about answering to share holders because it isn't on the market selling. And by by making 3 full games it also means more content for the consumer so it's a win win for both parties provided you aren't broke and are patient.
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>>342981218
>ff7
>"updated"
>episodic
zelda
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>>342992649
You're a fucking faggot. Stop talking like this shit is episodic then if you already know. If all you care about is finishing a story just say so, personally I care more about the game which is why splitting them up doesn't mean shit as long as they're full fucking games. Which they are. Kill yourself nintendrone, you babies really are just as retarded as everyone says.
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>>342990913
You do understand they're not making a copy of the old game with hd textures? The remake is going to be significantly larger than the original. Every location will have to be remade to fit modern standards. We'll have fully explorable towns/locations. If the game will be open-world, that alone will increase the size of the game hundredfold. There are going to be more mini-games, more shit to do. Longer story. Basically much more content. You're not getting one game that is split into three parts and sold separately to jew out poor sonynyggers, you're getting three full games.
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>>342993270
>Italians
>white
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>>342994515
>splitting them up doesn't mean shit as long as they're full fucking games
>full games
>splitting them up

i hope you realize this weird defensive bullshit you are doing is over a shitty video game. you are talking straight out of your ass to defend bad practices because of nostalgia
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>>342993102
>hurr why won't the entire star wars trilogy be released at once?
>why isn't the entire halo series released at once?

K I L L Y O U R S E L F
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>>342995214
When I say "splitting up" I'm referring to how they're releasing the games. And they have said each release is a full game, nothing is bullshit. I'm just arguing with morons who are using shitty half assed reasoning to explain their choices. The remake isn't episodic.
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>>342991823
>time stopping bullshit

That's just an item. That's like calling the Spinner the gimmick of TP.
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>>342981218
FFVII simply because I'm not gonna shell out for a new console just for Zelda unless I have tons of extra money to blow. It does look good though so if I see a good deal on a Wii u before it drops I'll probably get it.
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>>342995237
Final Fantasy 7 was a single game to begin with and it isn't even that long by modern standards.
There's absolutely no logic in arbitrarily cutting it into three chunks, unless they're planning on shoving compilation material into it, which would be the fucking worst.
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Nomura has nothing to do with Zelda, so that one.
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>>342981218
FF7 remake of course.
Breath of the Wind is just trying to mimic any random open-world from the last 10 years. It's gonna be boring.
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>>342981218

FF7 because it's a whole package of a game. Great everything.

Zelda will just be great, I'm doubtful though, gameplay. Unless they spice up the music and graphics, it's just going to be another meh Zelda game. Open world gimmick is not enough. A lot of games have it.
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>>342997068
>FF7 because it's a whole package
It literally won't be though. It's but one entry of a package of 3.
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>>342981218
I never liked Cloud. I hate him more now that he look like a pansy crackwhore. Zelda by default but not like I'm going out my way to by a wiiu for it
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What is so exciting about a drastically different (see "butchered") remake of a near perfect game?
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>>>342993102
This is just plain retardation but you're probably just pretending anyway
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>>342996163
It's uninspired and out of place and boring and I would be surprised if it's not the 'solution' to most puzzles. It's just making things stop for a few seconds there's not much room for creative puzzles there.

>hmm what do i stop this time?
Boring as shit
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>>342997759
http://i.4cdn.org/v/1467055493490.webm
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>>342987992
>>342981774
>Implying Disk 1 wasn't mostly a corridor simulator every place you went to go bomb.

This is exactly what it would look like in 3d. Open world doesnt come till later you dumb shits. Nomura has been waiting for technology to get to this point
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>>342997272
What is so exciting about a tech demo sandbox game from 2009? With shit graphics too
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>>342997934
>my first time playing a physics based game.webm
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>>342981218
why does japan make the perfect blonde fucc bois?
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>asking Nintendogaf

FF7 is the more hyped game, we actually know what to expect, a remaster of one of the best games ever made.

With Zelda all we know is that there's another huge empty bland open world with some tech gimmicks in the same vein as MGSV.
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>>342996328
Good thing it's confirmed to be expanded upon a lot. You actually think it's just the same length as VII and you are wrong.
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I like Tifa's tits
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