Why do people even still take the competitive Smash community seriously?
what does outplay mean
He's not wrong. Rewarding failure is fucking stupid.
>>342970797
To be fair though, he does have a point.
Getting killed at 30% from a randy bair is the equivalent of getting shine spiked at 10% but with less skill involved
>>342970797
Lucario's not fun in Brawl / Sm4sh desu.PM Lucario is fun though.
>>342970945
In this context, "getting your ass beat badly".
>>342970945
basis of pure skill.
Because you keep giving it attention
>>342970797
Lucario is way worse in doubles
also, those tweets are from the 3ds days, KEK
>>342970797
Define "take seriously".
>>342970945
>what does outplay mean
Shoehorning in a bunch of youtube practice mode combos instead of actually reading your opponent.
>>342970945
He means that he was playing much better than the lucario, and was racking up a lot of damage. But because of lucarios ability that the more damage he takes the stronger he gets that means that lucario can kill at stupidly low precents
>>342970945
outplay means to beat your opponent, nothing more than that. it's basically nigger speak for winning.
Don't worry, nobody outside of the "community" takes them seriously.
>>342970797
I'd rather The Aura expand hit boxes of normals, personally.
>>342971337
>He means that he was playing much better than the lucario, and was racking up a lot of damage.
Yet he was so shit that he couldn't seal the deal with a kill move.
lol
>Why do people even still take the competitive Smash community seriously?
>still
You really think people took the people autistic enough to play a childrens party game competitively seriously?
>>342970797
Yeah but imagine you're playing street fighter and combo-ing the shit out of your opponent and then they just throw out a random move and you get KO'd just because they were at low health
>>342971642
True, but if you've played tr4sh then you know that sometimes you can be beating up on your opponent but they won't die because of good DI and then they get to that akward % where your moves only knock them back a lot and don't actually kill which ends up making the KO harder to get
>>342970797
>this faggot looking hipster cuck
>>342971794
if all your combos do shit damage and you can't be optimal for a kill, then you deserve it. It's not like Lucario's ability is a surprise to anyone, and he's fairly light. Kill him at 90 and he's not a threat. Continue to poke him until he's at 130, you deserve it.
>Gonzalo
Worst mexican name ever
>>342972320
I mean you can't always predict a human opponent. And especially in tr4sh where gettin a kill set up takes a fucking Herculean effort. But I'm assuming he was playing mewtwo against the lucario so yeah that's his fault for dying at 30
>>342970797
Boo-fucking-hoo. Cry me a river, "King of Smash".
Your favorite tier-whore characters have been cut down to size one-by-one and now you have to actually work for those gold trophies.
>>342970797
Smash has a competitive community? lol
>>342971131
>PM
>>342970797
Smash isn't designed for competitive autists, it's a fucking party game.
>>342970797
Zero should have a secondary that can actually kill to deal with Lucario then.
>>342970797
but he's right
Getting rewarded for losing is a shit mechanic in every game
Street fighter 4 did this shit too
>>342973682
>it's a *character action game
fixed
now go run back to your niche 1v1 action fighters.
>>342971742
Yep.
How they think they're above every other fighting game is beyond me when it's the most basic "fighting" game in existence.
Have you tried not getting hit, Zero?
>>342970797
>what is risk for reward?
(cant speak for smash , never got into the scene but what he says about rewarding "failure" is retarded)
>>342973938
Yes ultras were the reason you lost in sf4 m8.
>>342974079
It's because they're too shit for normal fighting games, so this gives them something of an ego boost without having to be as skilled. Sakurai is dead on with that assessment; single handedly manages to BTFO the entire Smash community with that single statement alone.
>>342974341
doesn't change that its a shit mechanic
>>342973238
why is nano such a salty dude
Didn't he quit playing when Bayo was released and was broken and once she got nerfed he started playing again?
>>342974478
>It's because they're too shit for normal fighting games,
but comp. Melee literally outclasses every single fighting game though :(
>>342974714
He is a big fat baby.
Like, m2k might be a sperg and hungrybox may be a cunt but at least they dont give up on a game they love because of a bump in the road.
>>342973682
>>342974478
t. FGCuck
>>342974583
Didn't stop it from being the best competitive fightan game for 8 years fuckboy
rage is a disgusting mechanic introduced so that when timmy and tommy play against each other tommy can be getting his ass beat and still somehow win because sakurai wants everyone to win
why people think that smash 4 can be a competitive game when mechanics like this exist is beyond me
>>342974853
>t. FGCuck
Were you trying to say something, my man, or did your cat just walk on your computer?
>>342974079
I dont understand.
Even in brawl better players dominate. I can galco chain grab and abuse snake camping all day against casuals and not lose once.
What drugs does Sakurai take?
>>342970797
Lucario isn't even that good. Losing to a lucario says more about your skill level than anything. Getting stronger based on damage taken is a double edged sword. I thought this guy was supposed to be good?
>>342975092
t. FGCuck
>>342971017
To sakurai its genious and fun for whole family.
>taking a party game seriously
>>342970797
isn't that tweet from the early 3ds days where vectoring was still in?
>>342975107
did you miss the million outcries over pre-patched diddy, shiek, bayo, etc.?
Brawl isn't swarmed by casuals anymore dude
>Scarflard
>known for being a cocky arrogant piece of shit
>has been banned from several tournaments not just for cheating but property damage
>gets his shit kicked in by someone using Lucario
>spergs out about it
>still wonders why the smash community doesn't actually respect him with all his "victories"
>>342975092
afaik
t. F(ighting)G(ame)Cuck
>>342975231
What is t.?
>>342975441
*character action game
>>342975680
"terveisin"
finnish for "best regards"
>>342975659
>zero
>banned from tournaments
such as?
and pretty sure majority of top players respect him
>>342974714
Yeah, he ducked Bayo all because of assumptions (even though there was only one Bayo before her nerf who made it to Top 8, and he only made it maybe half the time he entered tournaments) andand he used the excuse that he had a "thumb injury" even though the "injury" was just the top layer of your dead skin taken off.
For once I agree with him, but more because I fucking hate Lucario in general and how Gamefreak sucks its cock on a daily basis. It's not exactly fun to fight either in Smash since the longer you keep it alive the more dangerous it gets, which makes it more tense for me since I would certainly not want to lose to a Lucario of all characters.
>>342970797
He has a bit of a point. Rage Lucario is absolutely dumb with his command grab that kills at 30%. Sub 50% kills shouldn't be a thing outside of gimps and one off moves like Mac's KO punch.
>>342970797
Nobody does.
I'm also kinda surprised that Zero didn't go on to main Lucario.
>>342970797
We don't
>>342976202
dumb roastie poster
>>342974079
>not Alternative Fighter
C'mon now.
>>342975659
I'm not a fan of the guy but theres no need to make up blatant lies about him.
ZeRo gets his dick sucked more and has more dickriders than any Sm4sh player and the majority of Smash players across all games in general.
He's not wrong, Lucario's gimmick is fucking retarded. You shouldn't become stronger for getting hit. He does come across a huge bitch though.
I like Lucaio's gimmick, but Bair killing at 30% is fucking dumb.
>>342970797
Is there a video?
>>342975628
So what exactly is it that youre saying? That Smash 4 is where all the casuals are?
Why do they nerf good characters instead of just making bad ones good?
>>342978140
Brawl is irrelevant as shit
people still bitched about MK until they cut off the online servers and went on to Smash 3DS.
all there's left is a small group of purists who think they could bring back Brawl the same way Melee made a come back.
the casual majority will bitch all the way to the end.
>"You can't talk about balance unless you're winning tournaments"
>ZeRo can no longer talk about balance
>>342978736
>won Zero dollars from CEO
It's like poetry.
>>342978140
No Nintendo is fucking dumb and makes a game with a select few characters that have broken mechanics.
Shiek can string like 10 f airs into a kill
Diddy gets up throw to anything
ZSS no lag frames and easy bake combos.
So instead of ya know, giving buffs to characters that have the potential to be good
Captain falcon
Falco
Roy
Marth
Game n watch
No they release a whole patch to nerf 2
Characters at a time. And the only thing other characters get are just tiny buffs to their jabs or tilt attacks.
>>342979697
basically they're doing the opposite of Brawl Minus' design philosophy
"nerf everyone until they're balanced"
>>342979697
>sheik
>killing
(you)
also sheik can combo like 3 fairs but the damage is really low so it's not that broken
>>342979639
>>342978736
>>342970797AHAHAHAHAHAH
>>342980778
Point is that characters like that can string 15 moves together and get a free 50-60 damage. Whereas characters like ganondorf struggle to get more than down throw to n air.
>>342981156
ganon's good for FFAs anyways.
