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>four hour story mode
>twenty fighter roster, with two more on their way and much more guaranteed to come
>stages, costumes, titles, and even characters can all be earned without spending a dime if you're good enough at the game
>you can just pay for it anyway if you're shit
>best mechanics in a SF so far
>near perfect character balance
>orgasmic music
>fantastic netcode (once you find a match)
Once the big update comes this Friday, will /v/ quit shitting on this game?
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>>342966565

8 frames
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Sorry the game is shit. Deal with it. I'll be just over here patiently waiting for Tekken 7, the game that doesn't treat the player like a fucking idiot.
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>>342966658
FPBP
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>>342966565
Pretty happy about this all, but the game should have released in May/June with all this content rather than in February.
I get that this was done to make sure SF V was in the pro circuits but still it feels like the game is only now coming out of early access
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>>342966565
/v/ will shit on any game thats not nintendo. how do you not know this?
get what you enjoy
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>>342966882
Well obviously, I mean will it stop being a meme to shit on it
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>>342966565
>Game has been "simplified for a wider audience" aka casuals who just want to mash buttons
>Slow as shit movement and walk speed
>Huge floaty jumps with next to no horizontal range
>Tiny ranged normal's
>Tiny hitboxes on everything
>Normal's have a shitty priority system
>Throws are slow as shit with no range
>Links are gone and combos are now mashable
>Huge buffer window
>No close standing attacks
>No neutral jump attacks
>Dizzy making people fall out of combos
>Game is full of comeback mechanics desinged to "lower the effectivness of player skill"
>Only super can chip kill
>V-Trigger a huge universal buff you get as a rewarded for losing
>V-Reverasl a get out of jail free you are rewarded with for losing
>Receve less damage the less health you have
>Worst roster in a street fighter game to date fan favorites replaced with characters no one wanted like birdie and rmika
>Risk/Reward is skewed due to high damage from jump ins yet pitifully low damage on anti airs and how you can no longer get large damage punishes from a jab
>Huge amounts input lag
>Constant fps loss on ps4 and high end PC's
>Random input drops
>Dumbed down mechanics
>Top players already saying the game is casual garbage
>P2W
>Game literally released in an unfinished state
>Online doesn't work correctly
>No punishment for rage quitters
>lobbies that dont even work most of the time with no flags or ping
>8 frames of input lag

Casual story mode garbage isn't going to somehow make the game not a pile of shit
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>>342966565
SFV had its chance, probably the worst launch of any fighting game in years. Capcom is now tuning up the fanservice in game in order to get people interested. Once EVO and CPT is over this game is only going to be kept alive by pro tour money for the competitive scene. Casuals have already and will forget about it completely.

I sincerely hope it was worth it for Capcom to greatly damage the reputation for their flagship franchise for the sake of having SFV on the Pro Tour a year to early.
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>>342966565
did they fix input lag yet?
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>>342966565
> apologize for paid beta test
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>>342966565
Some of that shit is Subjective.
But seriously P2W.
Explain yourself.
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>near perfect character balance

Karin and Ken have won over half of the tournaments so far. The only time the bottom 10 characters win is when people like Xian go to fucking Russia so he can compete against nobody and win a tournament with FANG
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>>342967429
There is a easy manual fix on PC.
Not on PS4.
The culprit is vsinh actually.
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>>342966565
>Fantastic netcode
You mean the shitty one sided netcode with the longest loading scenes in history of fighting games even when playing pc vs pc on ssd.
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8 F R A M E S
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way when other fighting games have dlc you retards bash it but when sfv does it you just let it go
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>>342966882
>muh nintendo
every time
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>>342967761
Nobody said it's p2w.
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>>342967934
>Durr Karin and Ken
Yeah and Japs won every SFV tournament but still lost WW2.
Your point is moot.
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>>342968139
I'm guessing this does not work for netplay or everyone would be calling PC players cheaters? If not what's the point of the "fix", learning a different game in training to what you play online?
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>broken matchmaking

GEE WHIZ I SURE LOVES FIGHTING ME A SUPER GOLD WHEN I AM AN ULTRA BRONZE.
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>>342966864
This. Fucking abysmal launch.
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>Juri's default costume still shows her toes

THANK YOU FUCKING CAPCOM

I mean, it's still not as good as her SFIV costume, but it's WAY better than the bullshit we got with Ibuki.

Juri still confirmed for best foot waifu.
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1 year from now the game will be worth it as in worth buying it
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I bought it for ps4 and played it one day. It was taking like 5 to 15 minutes to get in a match. Is it the same for everyone else? Has it been fixed?
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>have to grind ranked to quickplay unranked against people who know how to play
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>>342966565
>best mechanics in a SF so far
>>near perfect character balance
Just admit you wasted money instead of posting this sort of retarded garbage online, kid.
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>>342970452
in terms of content, with this Friday update you have more than enough reason to buy it already
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MAKOTO WHEN?
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>>342967294
I like how this post gets no comments because it's spot on, every asshurt sfv faggot just covering their face in shame
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>>342970858
>buy

Tekken tag tournament 2 is free.
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it's boring. sorry.
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>>342970630
>Not being PC master race and using a Cheat Engine script to one hit your way through Survival and get tons of dosh

And yes, CAPCOM doesn't seem to give a shit about you using Cheat Engine. As long as you don't use it in online matches.
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>>342970901
>no final fight characters
>no makoto

never because SFV is shit
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>>342966565
>will /v/ quit shitting on this game?
Never ever mate. Even if the game improves a lot the damage has been done, it had an awful launch, it still has many problems and it might surprise you but not everyone like the gameplay. It will take fucking years before the game is somewhat acceptable.
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>>342971016
been playing TTT2 for the first time, my friends got on board right away too. I really feel I dropped the ball by not starting tekken sooner p-jack is literally my dude.
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>>342967294
your complaints about comeback mechanics are more applicable to 4. what you should be saying is white health on block and subpar mechanic to compensate, because outside of nash, chun li, and r mika, v trigger is worthless (save for extending combos by a move)
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>>342971147
????

money has nothing to do with rank

You only get matched with people within a certain BP range even in unranked so you need to grind ranked up to like ultra silver just to play against competent people
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>>342966658
Unless you play at a competitive level. I don't you even can tell the difference.

No one in /v/ has ever been a local in thier life. Keep meme posting
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>>342971193
It's a lot of fun. I hope you're enjoying it.
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>>342971253
>v trigger is worthless

Ultras were dumb, all the comback shit in V is even worse.
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>>342967294
I for one agree with most of these besides maybe
>P2W

Which i don't recall the game having anything like that.
>No neutral jump attacks

Doesn't chun-li has some of those.

>Slow as shit movement and walk speed

Most characters walk slowly but cammy and chun-li are pretty fast, but that's fucking it.
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>>342971328
>an unintentional flaw in the game is okay because I said so
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>>342971328
>No one in /v/ has ever been a local in thier life
Why do people always say this, is it so uncommon?
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>>342971427
nash deffo has neutral jump hk
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>>342966658
This is only really a problem if your tv already has input lag.
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>>342971395
mashing v trigger does not instant win unlike ultras on whiffed normals
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>>342966565
Sorry but i am waiting for the real superior Fightan game.
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I think the sad thing is that even with SFV being a massive failure, it'll still dominate the fighting game scene.

>Barely anyone gives a shit about GGXrd, SIGN or Revelator
>No one really gives a shit about KOF XIV (despite it looking great now) due to its extremely lackluster first impressions
>No one gives a shit about KI because Xbone/W10 exclusive (despite it being really damn good)


The only games that stand a chance against it are MKX and maybe Tekken 7. However, MKX has never really been good at a competitive level, and Namco fighters typically die off pretty fast in the FGC despite initial hype and sales.

SFV will remain the top dog of this new generation of fighting games, simply because of name recognition alone.
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>>342966565
Get me a link for a cheap copy and I'll buy your stupid game, Capchill.
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>>342971516
about 60% of /v/ can't do a shoryuken
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>>stages, costumes, titles, and even characters can all be earned without spending a dime if you're good enough at the game

Not true, even if you finish hell survival with all characters you still won't have enough FM to get everything.
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>>342971687
Hope you like playing with spics.
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>>342971687
Aw dude, I didn't know there were still making games for the Dreamcast.
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>>342971665
You would have to be a retarded sub 500pp shitter to think mashing ultra was an instant win.
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>>342971687
>still playing King of Mexicans
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>>342971727
>>342971727
>>342971727
>>No one really gives a shit about KOF XIV (despite it looking great now) due to its extremely lackluster first impressions

You are totally wrong
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Why doest his derivative uninspired garbage that is pretty much TF2 crossed with League get shilled so hard when it has all the same flaws as SFV (such as not having an actual campaign and just multiplayer) when this game gets crucified it?
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>>342971931
Typical shit fighter mentality.
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>>342971807
>>342971931

Oh why, yes. "Spics" are pretty good at fightan games
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>>342971896
>i am quite capable of reading and understanding other people's points; the post.
ultras can kill people on whiffs. raging demon can serve as an anti air. tiger destruction has startup invulnerability. stop being a shitter
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>>342972018
but anon I don't even fighters - I was browsing the catalog and the post caught my eye.
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>>342971648
I would think everyone that's competitive plays on a monitor. On tv though it'd probably be double the amount of lag.
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>>342970159
My fucking dick I can wait

Not sure if i'm maining Ibuki or Balrog until then
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>>342971727
How can it be a failure when it is the top game at locals and tourneys. If you ignore Smash babies, it is the top fighting game. So its a failure because casual babies on /v/ cry because it doesn't have an arcade mode which only 1% of people even completed back in ultra?
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>>342971982
Every time I bring up KOF XIV, people just dismiss it as "that one game that looks like it belongs on the PS2" and laugh.

At this point, only the Japs really care about KOF XIV, and even then, they weren't fans of the initial reveal either.
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>>342972215
Can't* wait

FUCK
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>>342972058
Oh why, yes. I hope you have people to play the game offline with, because otherwise you'll love mexican internet.
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>stage select before character select

Does this trigger anyone else's autism?
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>tiffany and hinata on the beach

i cant fucking wait
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>>342972262
>I don't know that capcom sponsors all the tournaments.
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>>342966658
>people play SFV for months without noticing
>suddenly it's a problem when people find this out
Call me shill all you want, this 8frame bullshit has always been retarded
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>>342972178
So you jump from thread to thread shit posting? Do you not have anything better to do?
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>>342972389
Me, HARD
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>>342970630
If you're such hot shit that you're way stronger than your rank says just rank up, it takes like zero time when you win against a couple of higher ranked guys you get like 200 points a pop.
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>>342972389
now that you point that out, that is irksome
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>>342966565
You forgot the best bit

>Dead community

Oh wait...
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This thread is terrible.
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>>342971991
One released for $40 while actually being fun to play and having some great character designs

The other released for a full $60 despite missing crucial options that are typical for its genre, and has such riveting character designs as pic related.

Also, one is made by a company that has a legion of fanboys ready to defend any decision they make, while the other is made by a company who's fans have had enough of their bullshit over the past half decade or so.
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>>342971687
I'm sorry that you like a game filled with "jajaja's", that looks like a Dreamcast game, made by a company that went broke, twice.
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>>342972496
>play against bronze player
>about to win
>they DC

Fuck off I don't want to play ranked
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>>342971991
Team based game, easier to jump in and play so the casual shitters on /v/ can feel good about themselves and blame other people for their losses.

Fighting games are the opposite, they're on their own and it's not easy to pick up and start winning. So they can either blame their opponent for being no life autists or they attack the game itself, choosing whatever flaw they can to justify their losses.
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i'll stop shitting on it when you stop shilling a shit game
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>>342972725
You know what I think? You just suck.
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>>342972178
> I don't play fighters
Your use of the moniker suggests otherwise. Its was a weak attempt to cover you ass when someone called you out.
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>>342971687
I hope this game is good but i bet, like every other fighting game ever, will not have servers on south america so i won't even bother in getting it until it is 85% off.
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>>342966565
>Near perfect character balance
>Zangief
>Rashid
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>>342972570
>implying

People may shit on it but it's still played like crazy.
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>>342972072
>ultras can kill people on whiffs
Are you seriously implying Vtrigger cant?
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>>342972875
Neither of them are terrible whatsoever.
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>>342972652
>great character designs

literally tumblr the shooter, the cast looks like some shit you'd see in a generic 4kids saturday morning cartoon.

>>342972736
agreed, but I always enjoyed fighting games for that aspect
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>>342966565
DESU I'm just looking forward for all the new Juri porn/doujins
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>>342972972
not in the way an ultra can. You still have a requirement of execution and spacing, whereas raw ultra is a lot more abusable
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>>342972784
>I shitpost because I'm trying to save you guys from the evil corporate shills
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>>342972875
>I can't do 360s because I'm a scrub
>I haven't played this fighter at all, only know about him because "MEMES XD"

That's basically all I heard.

But yeah, SFV's balance isn't perfect, especially compared to KI's balancing. Seriously, besides Aganos, there isn't one fighter in KI that isn't viable in some way.
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>>342972463
People who were half way decent noticed right away. It was confirmed later. If people seriously didn't realize there was something up right away they are shit at fighting games.
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There is some balance issues. Ryu and Ken burst damage is too high for the amount of tools they have. Chun slp and Necalli slp hitboxes are retarded. For buffs, they just need to do something to Gief, like his vskill being a parry instead of armor, or just reduce the white damage his vskill takes. Buff Fangs poison and Rashid's damage a bit. And remove the retarded scaling they gave to Alex's super.
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>>342972273
What people?

Lots of people are interested in it, if you think that /v/ opinion matters, you are very wrong

>>342972323
Are you implying that Murrikan Internet is any better?

>>342972710
And yet ,it looks better than Early Access V

>>342972615
Welcome to /v/
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>>342972982
Nigga most, if not all, of the cast has an easy safe-confirm string into super (hell add v-trigger to it) that can do at least 50%. Rashid doesn't have that at all. All of his specials is fucking negative, his normal ranges are piss-poor, and he NODAMAGEs the cast.
Zangief has problems until he's in but that's every grappler. I feel like he actually need a move for fireballs, like green hand.
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Even Pokken sold more physical copies in the U.S than SFV
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>>342972273
Every single KOF poster must always shit on SF to make any sort of point about how good is their game. So this is a case of shitposters getting shitpost replies.
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>>342973393
>Lots of people are interested in it
where? It was getting only 2k views this weekend, fuck all watching the trailers
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>>342973547
Well, KOF has always been the superior fightan game...
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>>342973563
Wait for the game when it's released.
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I still can't find a game because the game is literally unplayable on my router setup so no.
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>>342973642
If it was so good, you wouldn't need to shit on other games to get attention.
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>>342973198
Til jwong is shit at fighting games
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>>342973546
Playstation/PC audience vs Nintendo audience
Have we not established that Nintenyearolds will eat up any censored, meme-ridden shit they shove down their throats?
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>>342973731
So these people just will materialise? That's not how it works

The most excited I have seen people for it was a picture of a moderate line in a tiny Nip store
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Can I still play SFIV? I don't own the new game but I still want to practice characters.
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>>342973127
lolno
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>>342973963
What's stopping you?
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I love how everyone shots on gief like hes a bad character. Hes not bad at all everyone else is just better.
He only needs his 2f spd again and hes perfect
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>>342973832
It's obviously the Crapcom conspiracy to keep all games other than Shit Fighter down.

Nintendo should buy all Crapcom assets and make a new Megaman.

And From Software should make a Berserk game with Platinum combat.
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>>342966565
REDEEMED

R E D E E M E D
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>>342973930
Kof might not be the most popular fightan game because it actually requires skill

That's why Casual games like Smash are so popular at EVO or other events

Hell, even a fucking baby can beat SFV easily

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTdQ7Xx4Q34
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>>342974035
Because I don't know if the move sets might change at all from game to game.
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>>342974119
>judging the difficulty of a fighting game by posting SP content

Not that SFV isn't beginner friendly but you're still a massive retard.
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>>342972989
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>>342974153
Game mechanics change a lot. But if you're proficient at IV you can easily pick up V, since it's dumbed down.
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>>342974219
>>judging the difficulty of a fighting game by posting SP content

Why not? The game is piss easy and i doubt that playing online will change a lot.
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>>342974327
Post your CFN fag.
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>>342973903
Have we not established that basically no one wants a Wii U, and that the Wii U is easily the most disappointing console of this generation and has also sold the worst.

Yet despite this, a game on a console that basically no one cares about has sold more than a game from a well known IP that is available on the two most popular gaming platforms right now.

SFV is just terrible.
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>>342974119
>might not be the most popular
So what happened to this >>342973393

>That's why Casual games
Didn't one of the devs just come out to say they want the casual audience not the esports?

>requires skill
Yeah, 14 especially with hard combos like square, square, square. But I guess that casual system doesn't count for some reason
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>>342973393
>Implying that looking better than SFV is somewhat of an achievement

King of Mexicans fans are so pitiful low it hurts.
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Game should have launched with everything that's in it now.

Characters
Stages
Costumes
Story Mode

All of it.
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>>342974434
>Pokéshit sold a lot
Does this surprise anyone? The same rehashed Pokéshit games always sell a few million copies due to kids. But make no mistake. Pokken is absolutely dead.
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>>342966565
>Only had to wait like 4 months to get a finished game


Why would anyone apologize?
This is how the game should have fucking launched. A bit too late to gain any new fans. That moment has passed.
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>>342974435

So what happened to this >>342973393 (You)

The guy was saying that people weren't interested in KOF after the reveal trailer which is totally wrong

>Didn't one of the devs just come out to say they want the casual audience not the esports?

Erm no? They want to make it accessible, yes. But that doesn't mean it will be casually.

>Yeah, 14 especially with hard combos like square, square, square. But I guess that casual system doesn't count for some reason

Yeah, it requires more skill than SFV

>>342974445
It might not look better but it has more content than this Early Access game.
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>>342966565
>hey /v/, why do you hate a $60 early access game? They finally patch in everything they promised!
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>>342973982
not him but
>press jab on opponents wakeup to try and pressure them
>TIIIIGER
>invincible move that leads into a 400 damage combo
meanwhile
>heavy jump in attack + full v-trigger + full EX meter = potentially 400 damage
and you can't v-trigger on wakeup because it lacks invincibility
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>>342974563
come on man it's street fighter it should have outsold mkx
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>>342974402
When will the SF2 is pure footsies meme end.
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>>342974504
this
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>>342974803
I thought SF4 was all setplay so why don't you safejump?
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Does anyone know what sticks these are?
https://youtu.be/9U9pRpbPS94?t=347
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>>342974879
Never, it's always important to believe the game that you pretend to play is the most fundamental, honest and footsies based game ever made, otherwise internet strangers may think you're a pleb and not take your opinion seriously.
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>>342974879
No one said SF2 is pure footsies and that image didn't imply that in any way.
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>>342971768
>He fell for those bait threads
Most of /v/ doesn't play fighting games competitively, but most of /v/ can do a Shoryuken.
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>>342966658
You are a shitter. Adapt and get good.
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>>342974802
Capcom told you game wasn't complete until late this year, you only have yourself to blame if you bought it on release.
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Say something nice about Juri.
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>>342966565

no
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>>342972310
did I do good anon?
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>>342974434
> decent game with pokemon arrives on wii u
>fans flock to it

What a surprise. I wonder how many are playing pokken now
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>>342966565

Ryu needs a nerf so we stop seeing Ryu vs Ryu matches. It's killing the tournament meta
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>>342971991
sfv has much bigger flaws than overwatch from a quality of life perspective.

the biggest is matches take way too long to find and to load.

it takes 2-3 minutes to find a match with a minute of loading before and after the match. In about an hour you will be lucky to play 10-15 matches, most of them being stomps on one side or the or the other, most matches are over in less than a minute. if you want to get out of scrub hell, and actually improve via online play, this fucking sucks. it's been made friendlier to casuals in every single way except the most important one, which is simply you need to play and fight a lot to get better, something the game doesn't let you do in a reasonable or acceptable way.
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>>342975330
If I tell you that I'm going to stab you it doesn't make it okay to do so.
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>>342971687
Why do people keep posting that old ass pic of Angel even with the comparison?
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>>342975153
http://www.eightarc.com/fusion-ivory/

and I think mike is using pic related
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>>342975474
Now remove the black part on the thighs.
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>>342975440
I want to lick her sweaty tits
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>>342975474
way not just have it like this
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>>342975494
Too long? Matches usually start pretty quick for me. Guy comes up and we back out to control settings set it up and then play our 2/3 and then losers gives up and we do it all night

Unless you're talking about online, then lol who seriously plays fighting games online
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>>342971687
Why did you bring KoF into this? Just like bringing SF to a KoF thread all it does is start shit flinging.
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>>342975510
Shit analogy.
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>>342974781
Obviously it has more content. Tell me what other fucking fighting game doesn't have more content than SFV?

When will KOF and it's latin scum fans get the fuck away from the Street Fighter shadow?

>H-hey, at least is better looking than Street Fighter, huh?
>B-but we have more content than Street Fighter, guys
>At least we have a complete game at launch, right

You keep comparing your shit game with another shit game like it has something worthy to be compared. Want to say your mexican based game is good? Start moving away from SF.
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>>342975440
i want to put my dick between that pink strap and her foot
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>>342975846
If you get the point then it hardly matters. The game was unfinished at release, people hate it because of it. You see people complaining about bugs, missing features, capcom not keeping their promises on monthly content releases and barebones content at the start.
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>>342974859
MK has for the most part always outsold SF.
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>>342975689
yeah why would anyone ever play a multiplayer game online.

fucking retard
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>>342971991
sf has always had arcade mode. sfv is the first one in the series not to have it.

many fps games are made with mp only, blizzard never said the game would have sp mode and you got 2 betas with access to all the content of the game, so you could decide if it was worth it
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>>342971768
Post your points right now faggot
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>>342975583
im looking to buy a stick but i want something that's quality, everything $150 and under seems to be cheap(judging from reviews). would this stick be good and reliable and worth my money?
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>>342975474
Why did they cover her up?
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>>342976153
You can emulate arcade conditions just fine in SFV. There is survival mode for continous fighting and vs AI in training for quick bursts of training. Arcade mode leaves little that these features don't already cover.

Overwatch is excused because retards can play Overwatch online and still have fun. That's about it. A big chunk of people who buy fighting games don't understand them and therefore just stick to SP. And this part of the userbase is important to satisfy because despite being casual, they help keep fighting games alive. But any retard can play Overwatch online so SP isn't really needed for everyone to enjoy their games.

With that said, Capcom should've done more to appease the SP-only crowd from the start.
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>>342975440
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>>342974435
>Yeah, 14 especially with hard combos like square, square, square. But I guess that casual system doesn't count for some reason

Isn't the damage output for that shit? I though to get full damage one had to do the inputs normally.
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>>342976449
tldr, one does exactly what it set out to do, the other didnt.

gee anon you are so smart
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>>342976746
That wasn't what the post I replied to implied. Overwatch set out to be a game for retards and it succeeded at that. SF didn't appease the retards enough.
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Posting best fighting game music.
You groove you lose.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nk2mBSt7NsA
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>>342976623
are you really saying it isn't a casual feature? You know for a fact if that was in sfv the shitposters would push it harder than 8 frames
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>>342976292
HARP4 Kai
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>20 fighter roaster

Wait, what? Unless there's another character coming with Ibuki this a fucking a lie. And it is.

It's 19 characters.
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>>342976292
eightarc just released their new PS3/PS4/PC stick and it costs 90$
http://www.eightarc.com/drone/
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>>342976842
All of yagami arranged themes are fucking sex to ears.
Only this can come close:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbX-kP7SDM
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>>342967294
>>Slow as shit movement and walk speed

You DO realize this game is much faster than USFIV right? Problably not, you're retarded
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>>342967294
>Dizzy making people fall out of combos
Welcome to fighting games.
>Links are gone and combos are now mashable
There are still links
>Huge floaty jumps with next to no horizon
All characters are not FANG. That's part of the balance.
>Slow as shit movement and walk speedtal range
walk speed is about the same as Sf4. Also characters like Guile have crazy walk speed
>P2W
????
>V-Trigger a huge universal buff you get as a rewarded for losing
And earned
>V-Reverasl a get out of jail free you are rewarded with for losing
And earned which can be baited and punished.
>Game is full of comeback mechanics desinged to "lower the effectivness of player skill"
Like what?
>Random input drops
Never heard of this
>Receve less damage the less health you have
Welcome. To. Fighting. Games. Friendo.
>>Risk/Reward is skewed due to high damage from jump ins yet pitifully low damage on anti airs and how you can no longer get large damage punishes from a jab

Brb let me jab you out the air and hit you with a 50/50 for 40% damage.
>Huge buffer window
Welcome to fighting games.
>>Worst roster in a street fighter game to date fan favorites replaced with characters no one wanted like birdie and rmika
>No one wanted r.mika
Retard spotted.

Stop talking about fighting games.
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>>342974803
not him bit

>SFV
>Mash jab on wakeup
>Mash v trigger after jab for cancel into 600 damage combo
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>>342977176
SF4 vanilla arcade had 16 characters.
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>>342977084
It's the same price as the Eightarc, and the Eightarc looks nicer imo.
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>>342977176
>>
>Pre-ordered game
>only SP mode is survival (shit tier mode) and training
>try MP
>no one on casual matches
>try ranked matches
>waiting 5 minutes before a match
>some guy on another platform gets in
>fighting against King Crimson
>somehow manage to beat him
>he quits
>repeat

I just gave up and learned my lesson. Sadly I pre-ordered SFV _and_ XCOM 2. Two good games ridden with shit development.
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>>342977003
I'm not saying it's not, it's obviously there to entice new players. What I'm saying is since the damage is shit, isn't it kinda pointless to use for the noncausals? I it's not a detriment for noncasuals, but also has no benefit for them either.
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>>342976842
I actually like the regular version better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4sLqxtrSI4
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>>342966565
>Once the big update comes this Friday, will /v/ quit shitting on this game?

I think when the patch falls, it'll be worth $30 in a steam sale cause it should have had this one launch and you're all suckers for buying an unfinished game.

But that's just my opinion. Die hard fighting game fans would disagree, but my statements align with 80% of video game players. The total units sold for this title compared to say SF 4 or even fucking Mortal Kombat X supports my opinions. People were not happy and eager to open their wallets for this.
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>>342971727
>Barely anyone gives a shit about GGXrd, SIGN or Revelator

They fucked up with all these expansions bullshit. Fuck GG.

>No one really gives a shit about KOF XIV (despite it looking great now) due to its extremely lackluster first impressions

Because it's fucking terrible? XIII was much better.

>No one gives a shit about KI because Xbone/W10 exclusive (despite it being really damn good)

Err, yeah, ill give you that, i don't give a shit about it either.

That leaves MKX and SFV. Tekken 7 is not out. We'll never get another Soul Calibur/Bloody Roar so fuck it.
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>>342971328
I've played at several locals and even the niggas in my neighborhood say the 8 frames make a lot of things much harder to react to
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>>342976842
*Saxophone intensifies*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Be-eXzgeak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXxuYPBguQw
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muh dick
https://twitter.com/VampyBitme/status/747443594533822464
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>>342966565
>four hour story mode

>story in fighting games

>twenty fighter roster, with two more on their way and much more guaranteed to come
terrible choices all around

>stages, costumes, titles, and even characters can all be earned without spending a dime if you're good enough at the game
>you can just pay for it anyway if you're shit

>defending a freemium dlc scam

>best mechanics in a SF so far

debatable

>near perfect character balance

not even close

>orgasmic music

hit or miss

>fantastic netcode (once you find a match)

thanks I needed another laugh
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>>342977235
I know.
There's just something about them.
Best bass in any game:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wn22dxKCoI4
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>>342971783

This. And it's not a question of being "gud", you have to grind like a motherfucker.

This system is ridiculous so far.

Fucking stages are worth millions. Not to mention alternate COLORS or costumes.
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>>342966565
Still waiting on Super SFV. I like how this triggers capcom shills, by the way.
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>>342977287
>You DO realize this game is much faster than USFIV
Is this bait or are you just retarded?
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>>342977479
>, isn't it kinda pointless to use for the noncausals
when did I say otherwise? It just lowers the skill floor even more and means they won't learn the game cause mashing square is easier
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>>342977665
I though that many of the people who played earlier KoFs didn't really like XIII since it departed a lot from the way KoF usually played.
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>>342977791
>compares CA to super
lol
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>>342977760
>Fucking stages are worth millions.

No it's not. All stages are worth 260k. I got that 180k by just doing the story mode in 10 minutes.
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>>342977316
Your 09er is showing
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capcom pls
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>>342977727

Can you give examples to compare? Other fighting game or other SF game? No?

Maybe you are retarded.
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It would cost $70 to get the game with all the stuff op is talking about.

Screw that.
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>>342977937
>All stages are worth 260k

What I mean is all of the stages together cost that amount.
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>>342977901
That webm shows jumping, attacking, walking are all faster in SF4.

I guess you really are retarded.
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>>342977942
I can't unsee that now, thanks anon.
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>>342977791

Play them both or watch a video on youtube. Yes, SFIV is slow as hell. Even 2 and III were much faster.

All I see in your video is some faggot doing the same movements on both games with slow-mo camera. How the fuck is that anything?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnBzIi5nchE

Fucking shills seriously thinking that PS3 is faster than PS4.
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>>342966565
>>best mechanics in a SF so far
lolno
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>>342977791
>Compares a super to a critical art

Into the trash it goes.
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>>342977650
I bought the Collector's Edition for $60 on Amazon and for the Ryu statue, I feel I bought a high quality collectible that just happened to come with a free game. Hell, it's less than $50 right now with a great update dropping soon. Good time as any to start playing
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>>342978073
You'll also notice that sfv's damage out put is higher and that unlike sf4 characters aren't pushed to a more defensive playstyle which slows down the game

but you probably have had this explained to you before
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>capcucks still defending this freemium early access garbage
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>>342977985
This, the pricing for this game is terrible, and that's the sale price on steam right now.
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>>342977939
Nice argument.
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>>342977937

So I am supposed to spend my money on fucking stages and not characters? because I also finished story mode, and you can't grind money on that. For how long have you been playing it exactly? Story mode gives nothing. What if I want to buy 4 characters you dipshit? That leaves absolute no money for costumes, stages, colors, and I would have to grind to get these characters.

It's ridiculous.
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>>342978073

in slow-mo. Please watch a decent video or just test both games in your house. (you problably don't have neither game but whatever)
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TIFFANY

RIP THOSE MODELS

SFM

PLS
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>>342978391
Then you just play survival mode and get around 200k fight money, or just do the trials, or just do the story mode coming out to get 80k and then another 80k when betting it again on hard mode. Want me to balance your checkbook as well? Because it sounds like you don't know how to think at all.
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>>342977791
Normals in this game has more frames compared to SFIV, but the game itself is more intense. SFIV was more defense, with infamous fireball wars.
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>>342978636
>the game itself is more intense
>intense
The word you were looking for was homogenized
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>>342978779
Not him, but I can't see an argument that V is more homogenous than IV when IV had a near universal match flow because of the ultra system and a push for defensive play.
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>>342978391
And people say SFV isn't a freemium scam
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>>342978779

It does favors more speed and offensive than before, senpai
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>>342978580

You haven't actually bought anything, have you? If you can show me how is it possible to get all characters and stages and maybe some costumes too without having to play 200 fights on survival hard mode I would appreciate it.
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>>342978580
>>342978391
Your forgot that we also have dailies coming

Also you don't have to buy everything in the store, of course it will take time if you want to unlock everything just like any game
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>>342977962
KOF XIII
>Story. See >>342977727

>31 fighter roster
>Based Vice and Mature making a comeback


>Unlock stages by playing arcade mode a few times.
>Just 3 out of all characters are locked, you can unlock them if you beat them in arcade mode
>You want extra colours and shit? Play the game, that's it

>Based Ex-Iori, Ex-Kyo and Mr. Karate DLC

>Best mechanics, everything has a counter if you're good enough,
>If you are losing the game does not give you shit. Git gud


>Tournaments have been won by different characters, showing great balance.


>SNK music. Need I say more


>Netcode is shit, Steam version's a bit better
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>>342979103
You can mod pc version and get like 1m by beating all chalanges with 1 round.
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>>342978528
>beach stage: tiffany and hinata
>shadaloo base stage: fevrier and marz
>brazil stage: the green carnival girl
>balrog stage: the blonde chick
i swear i'd love to see those ripped, i can pose them myself
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>>342977939
>Still using the 09er moniker 7 years later
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>>342979330
BEAUTIFUL

I wonder if Capcom will make a winter based scenario and alternate for another character.
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>>342978905
>Not him, but I can't see an argument that V is more homogenous than IV
Not him, but you must be pretty retarded.
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>>342966565
nope the game is shit and released with zero content only capcucks still cling to it like a battered wife
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>>342979330
What does she have on her back? Looks like some kind of jacket.
>>
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>>342971253
>Ryu V Trigger useless
>Necali V Trifger useless
>Guile V Trigger useless

Ok buddy
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>>342978216
>Too much of a retard to know how to watch a webm after 4 seconds

Into the trash it goes.
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>be a casual
>haven't gotten a fighting game in years if not decades
>been looking at SFV for a while
>keep holding back cause it's taking forever to be casual friendly

At least it'll be cheap whenever I get it.
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>>342979826
I love stages with water. This having both sand and water will be fucking neat.
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>>342979779
>not having a beach cape

fucking pleb
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>>342966565
>four hour story mode
lol it takes them four months to create a four hour mediocre story mode and Revelator has had one since launch that's actually super fun and interesting to watch

>twenty fighter roster, with two more on their way and much more guaranteed to come
22 characters with more to come

>stages, costumes, titles, and even characters can all be earned without spending a dime if you're good enough at the game
same except you can still earn it even if you're shit just by playing enough offline/online matches and fishing

>you can just pay for it anyway if you're shit
same

>best mechanics in a SF so far
8f of input delay is my favorite mechanic. so are the babytown easy undroppable combos. and also how every player plays a character in the exact same way because SFV took away everything that allowed you to play a character in a unique way. show me 3 necalli players and tell me what makes them any different from one another.

>near perfect character balance
yeah i love seeing all of those Rashids and Zangiefs in top 8s

>orgasmic music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_5T9jLo0Lk

lmao yeah it's such a great soundtrack with real bangers like this one. i love how it has literally no melody and random vuvuzelas in the background.

>fantastic netcode (once you find a match)
holy shit i love anti-airing someone's jump in only to get rolled back and have me get hit instead. and then when i win they disconnect with no consequences.

i seriously don't understand how anyone can actually defend a game like SFV when they could be playing better games like Revelator
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>>342979826

The girls behind Karin are thre of the judges from SF3
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>>342966565
>orgasmic music

fuck you im tired of remixes,some of the stage themes are alright though
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>>342978938
No it favors mindless button mashing over fundamentals or smart play thanks to 8 frames of innate input delay, senpai.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CBEVIDwge0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwalITH_cGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap369ES-6Xw
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>>342980206
There is a reason why people booed you guys off the stage.
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>>342979970
Why reply to someone either stupid beyond help or baiting beyond logic?
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>>342980206
Shill harder senpai
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>>342980282
>Tokido, Justin wong, Ricki ortiz, and countless others are wrong about sfv being about fundamentals because of youtube videos

lmao.
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>>342966565
3d street fighter is shit. It never utilized the z axis and 2.5d looks like trash. If I was going to play a 3d fighter id play tekken. Though kof has potential
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>>342980206
>Xrd
>Wanting a game where everyone is mika
lol
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>>342979826
Who's that sexy one on the far right?
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>>342966565
Why should I apologize to a game that actively punishes me for trying to play my main the way I have in almost every SF game? Why should Ryu's low forward be one of the worst in the game? Why should all of his buttons suck on top of his fireball being worse than 3S? For damage? So he can go in? Might as well play Ken if I was gonna do that. Glad I can only either be a fag and play Nash or play a character I don't enjoy playing (Guile) in order to zone at all because babies cried about fireballs in 4 even with focus and various other ways to get around them.
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>>342971687
dont use my favorite fighting game to shitpost anon,regular KoF threads get shit on enough as is
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>>342980415
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2015/sep/12/i-feel-it-too-simple-yeah-too-simple-infiltration-discusses-street-fighter-5-fears-game-will-be-too-reliant-5050-situations/
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>>342966565
>fantastic netcode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o

I can barely play a game with my friend without everyone teleporting all over the god damn place. You fuck off
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>>342980484
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>>342980484
That's Mr. Crab.
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>>342972463

There were too many instances of me knowing i blocked something but still taking the hit.

Didn't know it was because of the huge delay at the time but now i do
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>>342980635
>sep 2015
LOL
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>>342980091
Play KOF, m8. Learning curve is a bitch, but once you get good it feels amazing.

KOF trials are the most difficult, yet more rewarding
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xeu6O7yW0RA
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>>342972652
You can say a lot about 3d street fighter but character designs never translated well. From ex to sf5 they all look like shit
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>>342980635
>September 2015
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>>342979826
Are the costume and stages $4 each or $4 all together?
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>>342980415
>Tokido
https://twitter.com/ronin_AlexMyers/status/690250157351305217

Nice try shitposter kun
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>>342972652
I love the salt that JUST ken generates

I hope he stays that way
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>>342966565
Nope.

It was shit.
>>
I ain't fucking apologizing about 8-frames-of-lag and "even though there's 20 fighters only 6 are any good and they all follow the same braindead rushdown strategy because blocking is bad in this game."
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>>342980983
>21 Jan 2016
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>>342977287
Not that hard since USF4 is slow as hell.
>>
4 + 4 = ? frames.
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>>342966565
>promised content is now out
>is now half the price I paid for it

Yeah they SHOULD apologise
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>>342966565
>releasing an unfinished game with shit netcode errors and server problems on the day of release.
>releasing "monthly" content as the end of the month instead of the beginning and a fucking bit by bit dlc content ala SFxT
>no arcade mode for offline play to get zeni and having survival mode unlock pallete swaps.
>JUST
never
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>>342980206
>Buy version A of xrd
>Version B of xrd comes out a couple months later at $60
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>>342981187

Red, you're probably terrible. No one cares what you think.
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>>342980327
>empathizing with meleefags

why don't you go shit in a hotel pool

>>342980373
sweet counter argument there capcuck

>>342980464
can't handle the setplay? yeah you're right, sfv is the perfect baby game for you
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>>342978340
He's right though. That anon needs to play fighting games that's not SF4.

>>342977316
>Guile have crazy walk speed
You don't know what "crazy walk speed" really means, do you?
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>>342981105
>This desperate attempt at damage control
Topkek
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>>342975440
She is my absolute goddess and for 6 years I beat the shit out of scrubs. Absolutely cannot wait to start bodybagging haters and shit smackers online when she drops.
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>>342977176
Balrog you dumb fuck
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>>342981423

>can't handle the setplay?

Sorry I prefer multiplayer games
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>>342979826
>dat monkey
>>
If SFV does not do well, all your other fighting games will have a smaller userbase. SF is one of the biggest entry points for new players to fighting games.

Just saying.
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>>342981513
>juri players
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>>342981631
No way anon, my series that only ever sells about 300k on a console will surely take the world by storm this time just you wait
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>>342981603
Maybe you should learn how to block.

Ah, fuck it. I'm literally as bad as you SFV shitposters now. I shouldn't be dragging myself down to your level.

Xrd is and always will be a better game than SFV. That should be obvious. I don't actually need to get on /v/ and defend it.
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>>342966565
You know It's a bad game when the winners of premiers come out and say they don't like it.
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>>342981752
Even Infiltration has a Juri, stop generalizing like a retard.
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>>342970858
i want to stretch her asshole with my dick, and then come inside cammy
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>>342980802
Didn't SF have to make frames slightly longer? How do you expect SF players to ever get gud if that's the case? SF players will get raped repeatedly by a mediocre KOF player.
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>>342981631
>If SFV does not do well, all your other fighting games will have a smaller userbase.

Tell that to Tekken and MK, you Street Faggot. Tekken beats SF in Japan and Europe. MK beats SF in US.
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>>342981831
You wouldn't be here in the first place if you didn't have confidence issues about a game's popularity.
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>>342981831

>Xrd is and always will be a better game than SFV

I guess that's why it's dead lmao
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>>342982017
Not him but I want a source on that.
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Hello /v/eddit
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>>342978528
i will as soon as update is released.

i also ripped the model of the airforce base girl sucking an invisible cock.

patopeixe tumblr if you want to port it to sfm.
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>>342982017
>MK beats SF in US.
We literally just had a tournament where it was considerably smaller
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>>342981752
I mean, I could go and find videos of shit plays by every other character on the roster as well. Does that universally mean that all Cammy/Bison/Ken/Chun/Vega players are shit too?
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>>342981431
>He thinks dizzy and scaling only worked the way they did in with SF4

Please stop talking about fighting games.
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LINUX PORT WHEN
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>>342982042
>muh twitch viewors that would rather fap to some high level SF player instead of learning how to play the game

At least Xrd isn't 1/8th of a finished product.
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>>342981898
>Infiltration
>picks juri once
>plays like a retard and loses while playing as her
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I dont get the apologize meme.
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>It won't polish delay
Also to add to you apologists people complained in SF4 Vanilla and SF4 Vanilla arcade because of more then necessary naturally delay and that was like 7f this is 8f. Is it playable? Yes? Should people gobble Capcoms cock without expecting polish over time? No.

SFV still needs alot of polish it needs atleast 1-2 more mechanics , improved delay and balancing around the improvement/alittle balancing in general.

V-reversal also needs to be buffed for some characters people have already found ways such as Alex v-trigger reaction/OSs to completely negate v-reversals for full 50% punishes or more with super. Birdie can also do this and others simply have safe buttons that can recover and throw v-reversals far too easily. A v-reversal should atleast be forced to be blocked if done on the first few active frames of a medium or higher.

I want to see SFV get the polish it deserves like SF2/3 and 4 to a degree i say a degree because i honestly think SSF4 was the best variation. If people continue to apologize for playable yet large amounts of delay compared to not just previous entries but fighters in general and think Capcom using FUCKING ONLINE data as argument for why Laura Zangief FANG Bison and etc don't need atleast a few buffs and some of the other cast like Rashid who hasn't gotten into a top 8 yet? Come on i get you like the game but have eyes and atleast say it could use a nice bit of polish. Its not even the best SF so why can't we see the potential to make it better?

>>342981631
>Implying this matters.

New players have funneled into shit like GG and Tekken all the time. A large group of new comers who don't understand the games and just shit up online are hardly important.
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>>342982042
well casual games do tend to sell more or have more players than good ones.

just check out the fps scene with COD.
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>>342981898
>Even
character was never relevant in all story of sfiv
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>>342982448
>A large group of new comers who don't understand the games and just shit up online are hardly important.
So sales are hardly important. Alright.
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>>342982448
>New players have funneled into shit like GG
People would have to buy it for that to be true
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>>342982186
MK is one of those cases when casual/competitive players ratio is higher.

>342982243
>He think I was talking about dizzy and scaling
I'm not the same anon with the huge wall of greentext. Nice try but no (You) for you.
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>>342982041
It makes no sense to me as to why anyone would want to play SFV when Xrd exists. It's objectively a better game. I'm trying to understand why.

>>342982042
xD yeah bro tell em about muh twitch viewers and muh pro tour
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>>342982017
>Tekken beats SF in Japan
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>>342982448
I have no idea why V-Reversal isn't basically just a burst for all characters, like what the fuck else are you going to use that meter for? And if you're spending meter you don't need "skill" for your V-Reversals nigga you already spent the fucking meter.
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>>342982329

>At least Xrd isn't 1/8th of a finished product.

It certainly has 1/8th of Melty players count at most lmao
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>>342982617
>casual/competitive players ratio is higher.
what fact do you have to back up that casuals are still playing the game in large numbers? They don;t even watch it in large numbers

MKX sold extremely well but players dried up quick, the pc version didn't even get the update
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>>342966565
people who post on /v/ are fickle, that's why it kind of becomes a hive mind. once something loses favor here, there's really no point trying to turn it around, no matter how good it will be.
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>>342981915
I feel you anon, i'd get easily arrested for all the things i'd do to her
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>>342982017
>Tekken beats SF in Japan and Europe.
Alright, shitposter-kun.
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>>342982042
>GG
>Dead
>Huge entrees for AnimEvo already
>CEOtaku had 300 people for GG last year and will have more this year.

Its funny how well GG does for a game where half the community doesn't even travel to half the events. SFV is doing extremely poor compared to SF4 in that aspect. I remember in SSF4 every single tournament was covered in the foreign players and top US now maybe 1/4 tournaments have the Japs travel and that is about it. Europeans don't even bother anymore unless its evo

No one wants to play your mediocre 8f delay guessing game for anything other then money that is why the only people who travel are sponsored players who are guaranteed something for SFV entrees.

I'll wait patiently well playing SFV in bursts for Capcom to get off their asses and polish the fucking slop into something presentable. You can keep sucking its dick like it put half the work into itself that GGXrdR devs put into every fiber of their game.
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>>342982706
>, like what the fuck else are you going to use that meter for?
vtrigger

> And if you're spending meter you don't need "skill" for your V-Reversals nigga you already spent the fucking meter.
You either have no idea how the game works or don't know english
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>>342966658
How much delay was SF4?
I always felt some kind of delay when I played on my brothers ps4. That held me back from buying it on pc (and also no keyboard fucking support what the jesus christing fuck)
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>>342966658
Street Fighter IV had 5 Frames of lag.
Its also a way to balance out the sweeps and makes the game more read based than just reaction based.
If you don't like it play SFIVU.
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>>342982621
Not everyone like airdasher/setup-heavy fighting games.

>>342982779
Well, that's even worse. RIP MK.
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>>342982134
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/sep/20/whos-1-fighting-game-sales-harada-says-tekken-425-million-copies-sold-date/

>If you're wondering what the #1 fighting game is from a sales perspective, Namco Bandai's Katsuhiro Harada recently said it's the Tekken franchise, coming in at 42.5 million copies sold worldwide to date. Harada added that 20 million of those, or more, have come from Europe.

In Japan, Tekken has always been the most played game in arcades.

As for MK, MKX outsold SF5.
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>>342981926
>Make frames slightly longer
That's not a thing, they just added a 3 frame buffer to the inputs
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>>342982874
>300 people
That's cute, SFV has been getting 500 at smaller events
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>>342982839
The only shitposters are the ones who play SFV. They have mental issues.
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Juri preference?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10604434
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>>342982874
>GG
>Not dead
LOL
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>>342966658
Can you explain this? I never played SF games
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>>342983119
B-but it's less than USFIV!!

DEAD GAME
P
LEASE BUY GG ARCSYS NEEDS MONEY TO INCLUDE MY WAIFU IN THE GAME
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>>342982621
More like you can't comprehend that people have opinions and that those opinions are different than yours. What you see as objectively better, others don't. Too bad you feel the fervent need to defend your game. If it's so great then why does it need defending? Why is it tanking compared to other fighters in popularity?
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>>342966565
>best mechanics in a SF so far
NOPE. SF has been shit since the series is outsourced to Dimps.
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Stay mentally weak, /v/.
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>>342983017
>make the game more read-based than just reaction-based

Lol, fucking Valle tried pull this shit too once people learned that the game only had a single playstyle in it. "Hard reads and commitment."

Whenever someone says that a game is "read-based" it really means "nigga you better guess what stupid braindead shit I'm about to do or else you're going to get your shit trashed."
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>>342983358

>inb4 he's a tranny so he's wrong
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>>342983358
I like strong women like Ricki.
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>>342983047
>Not everyone like airdasher/setup-heavy fighting games.

You know what, that's fair. I can't argue against an opinion like that. I could post at length about how I think that Xrd is a much more intelligently designed game than SFV is but if you sit down and play Xrd and find yourself thinking "I don't like how this plays" then the only thing I can say is to give it another chance or maybe try a different character but otherwise, that's totally fine.
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>>342982541
They sell enough to get new games. Its better to cater to your established fanbase then to get a few sales and shit yourself as a game. Hell did SFV even make a profit? It marketed itself out the ass for a fighter atleast and sold less then 2 million.

>>342982615
I know atleast 15 people personally who got into GG just now with Rev. Sorry its not the 100 casuals you knew who bought then dropped SFV. I know one of those personally and it was sad actually picked up Zangief got rekt and said the game was trash. I'm not going to agree i think SFV is a decent game in need of a large amount of polish/updating to make great but everyone i know who picked it up without having past fighter experience is not something you want in the community.

>>342982706
Or make a v-reversal option that uses 2 bars and has 1f startup or something. Or just improve v-reversals startup to 10f average. The average is 15-20f right now i think Chun Li has a 10f one. They're far too slow and over half of them aren't even positive on block they're around -1/-2

Its the only defensive mechanic with several counters that are easy to do already at mid level let alone high level player. V-skills are specific and don't help in all MUs and v-triggers are similar. We need atleast one more equal mechanic across the cast as well as v-reversals being all 10f throughout the cast.

I have no idea why Capcom makes the overall mechanics for the cast different. I don't see a affect in balance it more so fucks over characters from using them. Such as E.Honda/THawk/Zangief all only have about 1 use for focus/red focus where as Fei Long could play footsies with his fucking focus attack. Its similar to that in how some v-reversals are alright and others are shit.

What i love about GG Tekken KOF mechanics are pretty much equal across the cast. Hell i don't like 3s much but i applaud the fact parry as the standard mechanic is no different for any character to do and has the same frames.
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>>342983054
Tekken was so influential in Japan the psx was based on its arcade board
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>>342983419
But you can't say he's wrong or else SJWs will say you're a cis scum!!
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>>342983054
>He noted that these results are "different from the traditional numbers," typically seen with the retail Tekken releases.
What did Harada mean by this?
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>>342977791

sfv ryu walked forward a bit before doing collarbone breaker

sick of this anti-sfv mentality
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>>342983668
sjw's dont even know about ricki
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>>342983358
she's right though
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>>342983654
>I know atleast 15 people personally who got into GG
wow, that's over half the people who bought it, you gonna post any GG sales data though?
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>>342983119
>Less then SF4 events
>Small events
>Almost all events for SFV even some pro tour events are around those sizes

Have you seen pools for SFV also? Its just a bunch of pot monsters who can't even do fucking SFV BnBs mashable combos they drop them. Atleast when i watch GG pools i see people who half way understand their character showing up. SFV kiddies just show up to say they entered. If you enjoy a group of weaklings that is fine i go to locals too and dominate both SFV/GGXrdR outside of a few players. But those people who show up and bitch week after week and never get better id rather do without.
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>>342983510
I don't even like SFV though. At least I respect Xrd.
I only play pre-SF4 games.
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>>342983738
It means he's pulling numbers out of his ass.
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>>342983870
>>Less then SF4 events
Yeah, it's been doing so bad, just look at how big a drop there was with Final round
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4mAeQbuhmZ8SHM5VUx3NENMMkU/view?pref=2&pli=1
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>Ultra 343
>SFV 864
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>>342983358
>Alex Valle mentioned the feeling week one
>Snakeeyez said he didn't want to play Zangief because of it week two
>Fourwude mentioned certain things like Fierce dping Dhalsim limbs being next to impossible on reaction when he could do them in previous builds.

Comical. Even people like Knuckledu and Phenom who get top 8 and Phenom who has won majors mentions how the delay effects a few things and they should eventually improve it. But some washed up tier whore who i used to respect the shit out of in CVS2/3s days thinks its alright.

Keep sucks Capcom dick Ricky. I guess if anyone complains about lag/lack of quality they're mentally weak just because its playable to a degree.

All of you who complained about SF4 were mentally weak too by this definition.
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>>342983406
I like it because it makes you take your opponent more seriously than just doing option selects. But i guess everyone has his favorite style, do you remember how techbased SFIV used to be until they fixed it with Arcade and Ultra? They may patch it in a few months who knows, just believe in ComboFiend.
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>People bringing up small event sizes
>People don't realize that Fight games are niche
>Because of the small market developers can make games that are less casual friendly, less memey and overall better.
Sure SF is shit right now but just be glad that the small community actually get decent fighting games compared to everything else
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>>342983047
Id rather have a setup heavy game then guess between strike throw jump like SFV and its limited neutral and delay has evolved into.

Also GG isn't even that setup heavy. Go watch Jap player they can just play almost anything. FAB is living proof that almost everything you can do in GG is reactable. Only like 3 characters fall out of that with 1 or 2 setups they have to earn.
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>>342966565
>best mechanics in a SF so far
>near perfect character balance
>orgasmic music
>fantastic netcode
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>>342984165
t. bronze league
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>>342983119
>>342983265
>MORE ENTRANTS MEANS IT'S A BETTER GAME! WHO CARES IF IT'S THE EASIEST FIGHTING GAME SINCE RISING THUNDER AND ALL OF THE ENTRANTS ARE TOTAL SHITTERS WHO WOULD PLAY A VIDEOGAME MANIFESTATION OF COW SHIT IF IT WAS MADE BY CAPCOM! STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT 8F IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING IT'S JUST A BUZZWORD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>342966565

The game is boring compared to SF4. Just isn't as much stuff to do with characters ever since they took out FADC combos and Focus cancelling out of block pressure. It's not as bad as SFxT but it's not great either, it's just mediocre.

Looking forward to KoF because at least SNK is making games for competitors and not casuals.
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>>342984305
But that makes me wonder..
Riot Games bought Rising Thunder meaning they want to get into the FGC.. does that mean it will blow up?
Killing all other Fighting games like LoL and Dota killed other E-Sports?
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>>342984332
sweet argument compadre
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>>342984065
Based Harada shilling his own games.
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>>342983864
Its cute how quality is determined by sales. Just like i'm sure you quote metacritic when it favors you. Pretty pathetic that you can't argue your game through quality and just need to argue it through sales when half of SF sales are just like MK sales where people buy it out of nostalgia play it for one week then trade it in.

Atleast GG isn't fueled by nostalgia and those who buy it are there to stay and not follow some trend of a fighter series that only survives as greatly as it does off brand fanaticism and Capcom pumping money they won't get back after awhile into it so it won't up and die on them.
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>>342984621
>quality is determined by sales
When did I say that? You said
>New players have funneled into shit like GG
I pointed out how that wasn't happening and you can't show sales of it

>Atleast GG isn't fueled by nostalgia and those who buy it
Yes it is, when Xrd was announced it was nothing but people going on about how they could get back to the old days of gg and not play bb
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>>342984321
Not every SF and oldschool 2D games are like SF5 (and SF4) you know.
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>>342984332
>Quoting people who are Platinum/Gold and maybe higher
>Bronze

Funny. Especially since people like PR Balrog already determined the online is shit because 8f default with the regular delay of online topped on it make it insufferable for characters and players who actually like to play methodically and not unga smash unga as fuck.

>>342984324
I didn't even notice he said
>Fantastic netcode

You scrubs will never play on GGs level
>Play GG with a friend 2 states away
>2f delay and a natural 3f delay
>Play SFV with same friend
>2f delay with a natural 8f delay

I guess its harder to see since SF is slow and easy to understand in most situations and more based on just decisions and basic reactions but those decisions are effected more and more with the online delay.
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>>342984582
Shut your fucking mouth and dontbever speak to me or my ahijado ever again.
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>>342984423
>SNK is making games for competitors and not casuals.

so they are making games for about 100 people in the world?

smart, no wonder they had to outsource 14 to some shitty chinese devs
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>>342984423
>Looking forward to KoF because at least SNK is making games for competitors and not casuals.

>But we need to keep in mind that over 90 percent of the players don't attend tournaments; they're all enjoying their games by having fun mashing at home. The first and foremost important thing is that we make it fun for them to play. The competitive aspect comes after that."

>The competitive aspect comes after that."

http://www.mmcafe.com/news/posts/10198.html
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>>342967294
Forget three things:
no cpu vs
no time limit setting for vs
no arcade mode
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>>342984986
See >>342985013
So no, you're wrong.
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>>342966565
>100% rushdown meta
>everyone plays the same
>netcode is terrible
>matchmaking is terrible
>exactly zero (0) new characters worth caring about
>several old characters ruined with reworks
>less players than fucking Pokken

Based Sony shill trying to salvage his tire fire of an investment. Just realize Capcom played you for chumps and move on.
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>>342984891
PR Rog is a salt mine in a person. Who gives a fuck what he says?
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>>342985267
>less players than pokken

AHAHAHAHHA RETARD

pic related is just steam, it has 10x more on the ps4 and has crossplay
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>>342985478
Less dead than Battleborn.
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>>342966565
>will /v/ quit shitting on this game?

No, but that won't stop me from playing it.
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>>342966565
>near perfect character balance

Isn't Ryu the only one that has the highest potential with parries?
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Would you recommend it to a forever single player?.
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The game was good ever since they fixed the network issues during the first week. /v/ is just casual and cares about single player shit in a fighting game.
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>>342985832
>fighting games for single player

are you retarded?
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>>342985832
I'd not recommend any fighting game to a single player only person.
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>>342966565

Don't you have to pay for costumes?
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>>342985832
track down a local scene and play with them.
You only git gud when you get bodied by others, sit down with them, watch the replays and let them explain what you did wrong. Its surprising how many people are willing to mentor you so you become a better Opponent for them.
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>>342985478
>n-no really there's more players than this embarrassingly tiny number i-i just can't show them to you but my dad works for Sony honest
D E S P E R A T E
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>>342966565
>Fantastic netcode
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>>342986086

>Local scene
>Living in the sticks
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>>342966565
>skips May and June update
>shove it all into the July update
>next update not til late August
>"apologize"

You Capcom fucks will never learn.
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>>342985997
Who's this cum drum?
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>>342986284
Then make one your own.
A while ago North germany had no real community but thanks to the effort of some people you can go to Hamburg 2-3 times a week and always have around 20 people to play against.
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>>342986426
What's the problem? They're back on schedule and we even get the July update on the first day of the month.
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>>342986426
>HAHA They postponed the june update till july! Capcucks get fucked!
>It launches july 1st

Autism
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>>342979620
>cozy sweaters and mittens on everybody
I'd buy it, not gonna lie
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>>342981926
not a single KoF player has ever stepped up and competed equally with SF players at the highest level, but a few SF players like Tokido went the other way.

so.
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>>342987162
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>>342979620
sure they will
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Yo can I use a XBONE controller for this game? Or am I going to get fucked in the ass by players using fight sticks?
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>>342988218
You'll get fucked in the ass by players better than you. Controller doesn't matter.
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>>342982992
on ps3 it had 5 frames, on ps4 it had 8. They eventually fixed it so I'm hopeful they''ll do the same with v.
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>>342984891
Fucking this. I notice the difference between 2~4 frames, an extra 4 on top of that should feel like EC to some far part of Europe in other games.
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>>342988218
You might want to get something with a better dpad. It will save you some headaches down the road.
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>>342988289
Cool thanks bro.
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Is SFV fun with a lower input delay on PC without vsync?
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>>342988441
A shitty dpad isn't going to help you.
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>>342988479
SFV is fun by default. I don't turn off vsync because I can adapt.
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>>342988714
I want to know what the people complaining about 8 frames think. Considering if I should buy it for PC or PS4.
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>>342988958
With vsync off it's 7f instead of 8f. It isn't much but it helps a little.
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>>342988958
If you're going to tournaments play on PS4. There's a weird difference that I can't explain going from default PC settings to PS4.
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>>342983017
>more read based than just reaction based

is this supposed to be a good thing?
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>>342989085
depends on your play style.
Some people play on instinct.. some people on option select and some on reads.
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>>342989060
That's wrong
With vsync it's 7.2 frames average of delay and without it's 5
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>>342989212
>recognition of animation and quick thinking vs dude guessing lmao

fuck reads
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>>342989286
A read isn't a guess, it's an educated guess. You recognize a pattern or patterns your opponent keeps falling back on and you don't let them know you know. You save that knowledge for when you need it most and then fuck them in the ass when they go straight to the same thing again.

Very different than a guess.
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>>342988479
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2016/may/08/community-begins-react-street-fighter-5s-input-lag-issue-playstation-4/ Dude just adjust lol.

Read Mike Z's comments. You can get away with some hyper gimmicky shit because no one can react to it.
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>>342989269
source?
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>>342989628
my ass
just check on literally every site talking about the input lag
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>>342989938
Then I'll just ignore you because it's certainly more than 5f for me. I can deal with 5f. What I get isn't 5f.
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>>342989286
>someone doesn't respect the reads
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>>342986612
>>342986639
There were already behind from the get go. You don't call it a January update if the update doesn't come out til the end of the fucking month. It should have always been at the beginning.
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>>342984165
Maybe you should follow Alex Valle on twitter so you will realize that while he knows it is there he is also 100% ok with it and can't stand people who use it as an excuse.

Snake Eyez was always someone who would quickly look for excuses whenever he was under-performing, and he would also always find whatever reason he could to complain, it is a trait of his personality.

And just because Four Wude can't do it, it doesn't mean it is impossible, as you could see Daigo and Tokido constantly do it against top Dhalsim players.

The only ones still using the 8f of excuses, as Justin Wong called it, are the weak players who will never improve and never achieve anything. So maybe you should quit and play something else. Something not competitive.
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>>342979376
KoF XIII recycles a lot from KoF XII, which was also a lackluster game with tiny roster..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BqN3lYBZuo

TRUE LAST BOSS INTERVIEW
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>>342990514
>mfw Infiltration switches to Juri
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>>342990406
This

Momo consistently cancels cr.mk into super on reaction, you just got to get good
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>>342990406
Ironically the extra lag makes SFV LESS competitive than a lot of fucking games. So you should be telling him to go find something more competitive than this. There are a lot of people that mock online play because of the lag and tactics that you can get away with because you rely on situations that are impossible to react to where you normally could under any other circumstances. Making a whole game like that just makes it look pathetic to anyone with a working brain.
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which SFV girl has the smelliest, lewdest feets?
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>>342990920
Probably Sakura.
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>>342990756
Is there a single fighting game which doesn't have its online warrior be the laughing stock? Who the fuck plays online only when they want to be considered good?

Every fighting game with online will inevitably have "online tactics" SFIV had them, and your favorite game also does, so using online as an argument is very stupid.
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>>342990661
He will play the entire roster like he currently plays Nash eventually, that's his thing.

He will probably focus on the cute girls first though.
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>>342991309
Smug was an online warrior for a very long time before he broke into the scene.
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>>342991660
What does it have to do with anything? I said SFIV had a different experience online because of the lag just like SFV, playing Dudley online in SFIV was much easier than doing so offline because Dudley had practically unreactable mix-ups online.
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>>342991660
What does that have to do with anything? Also smug never did well on the competitive scene anyway, for all his execution is godlike his neutral was (and still is) garbage.
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>>342991982
>>342992007
What does that have to do with anythingmind
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>>342990756
>Ironically the extra lag makes SFV LESS competitive than a lot of fucking games.
tekken has 10
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So would this game be worth playing if I'm a newcomer? I've never played SF before, and I heard everyone hated SFV at launch for some reason.
Is the game worth buying, or is it buggy or something?
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>>342992106
It's great for newcomers. It's the easiest fighter on the market IMO

Single player content is a little bit sparse, but they're adding a story mode come Friday.

If you really wanna get into fighting games, this is the one. Just don't be afraid to play online.
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>>342966565
>Great netcode
>Laggers in gold because they warp all over the fucking place

Kek.
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>>342992106
SFV has good enough tutorials and the execution isn't very hard, online was flakey at launch but good now and getting updates plus it is the most alive

GG has good tutorials but a lot of systems and dead online
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>>342992106
Welcome to a dying franchise, my man. SF5 is easy but you'll get more mileage in the long run out of Mortal Kombat, Guilty Gear, Killer Instinct or even Pokken, because SF won't be around in ten years except for crossovers.
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>>342992523
>Welcome to a dying franchise
When SFV is getting more entrants than ultra? Nah, SFV is the biggest game around, can't wait for the 4000+ pools at evo
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>>342991309
That's the point, if your average SFV match offline has the same lag as an online match of other games...

>>342992102
I haven't played Tekken in years so I can't comment on that but that sounds pretty awkward.

Seriously I was about to go pick up SF5 for PC after watching the stream last night and this eight (8) frames of delay is really pushing me away. I honestly play fine in all kinds of situations and can switch up my gameplay style like anyone else with different amounts of lag but if everyone just runs gimmicky 50/50 shit I don't know how fun that will be.
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>>342992106
This game actually has a much lower barrier of entry compared to SFIV and the older ones, while maintaining a high skill ceiling.

It is easy to get started and yet still rewarding to practice, but it is a very poor game for casual play.
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>>342992106
It's the simplest version of street fighter yet. If you're looking to start playing fighting games its okay but all the hype/anti-hype might be a turn off. It's a game with long-term support so if you stick with it you might end up with a lot of content/good learning experience.
There were and still are some significant issues with the game but nothing that actually ruins the game assuming optimal playing conditions.
If you're looking to learn 2D fighting games, guilty gear revelator currently has the best in-game tutorials and plenty of content, but it's an anime game so there's a lot to take in.
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>4 hour story
>wasting time on a story mode in a fighting game
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>>342992848
>the hype/anti-hype
yeah, everyone was so anti-hype last night
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>>342992778
>>342983358
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>>342992907
Tokido parries were hype as fuck
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>>342992905
>catering to dipshit arcade faggots who never used to actually buy the games and just gave quarters to their stupid ass arcade shithole

die comboturd
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>>342993225
>that jab in the middle
mad man
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>oh man I bet those SJWs will shut up when they see Urien!
>haha yea, it'll show how hypocritical they are when Urien shows up in his man thong haha
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>>342992905
every fighting game has story now
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>>342992907
I mean throughout the launch. Game had a rocky as fuck launch issues and is still having mixed reviews, but the competitive aspect is still going strong and the monthly announcements are drawing out hype. If you're just observing all of this as an outsider you might be turned off. I know some of my friends are.
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>>342993313
They would just call it a power fantasy
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>>342993071
If ad hominen .is all you have I'll be sure to stay far away from the game.
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>>342993263
>wasting time writing a deep, moving storyline for a game about punching the shit out of people
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>>342992905
look at the sales you dumb ass

This is what happens when your $60 game has no content people demand a complete package.

It's actually surprising to see that Capcom is doing the right thing here even if a bit late.
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>>342993285

did you also see the CA parry?


webm related I guess.
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>>342993687
>muh sales
>i-i-it's ok if the Japanese do it!!!
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>>342993560
this>>342993687
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>>342993697
Infil was so surprised by it

A lot of people have seemed scared of the parry but Tokido has really shown how much of a powerful tool it is, may even be overpowered in the long run
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>>342992508
lmao dude didn't even ask about GG and you felt the need to shitpost

>>342992106
Feel free to try playing SFV. There are better fighting games, but if you try SFV and you like a certain character or you like how the game feels, there's no reason not to play it. It's your first fighting game and it's pretty basic but it'll probably serve as a decent entry point.

Do try as many fighting games as you can, though. A lot of people think that SF is the defacto fighting game but the truth is that you may start playing SF and then realize that you actually like playing King of Fighters more. Or melee. Or Tekken. Or whatever, just try as many as you can until you find the one that fits you.
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>>342992778
And yet if a person only ever played SFIV online, he would never, ever notice any kind of input delay, he would only notice the difference if he played offline.

Now if someone hadn't played SFIV, they also would never notice that SFV has increased input delay unless told, which is ironically what happened for this whole meme to start.

Because there isn't anything in this game that is impossible to react against while playing offline, as the character's moves have increased start-up to match the increased delay.

Yes, there isn't anything unreactable in this game, its not because FourWude said there is that it is necessarily the truth, because the Japanese players showed us this weekend that you can indeed react to everything in this game. Just watch the top 8 matches again and you will notice. Momochi, Infiltration and Tokido for example, have notable godlike reactions.
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>>342993560
who says it has to be "deep" or "moving" lol

Story in a fighting game needs to be fun having entertaining interactions between the characters and add some much needed context to the whole game
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>>342983202
There's 8 frames of delay whenever you do an input. In other words, all actions you do come out 8/60ths of a second later than when you press it.
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>>342993934
>lmao dude didn't even ask about GG
Yeah how dare I tell him about other options, you people are really sad
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>>342994252
>list one other option
>list it just to say the online is dead, which is actually a lie

k
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The shitty netcode

Adding useless target combos

Lack of proximity normals

Every char has only two combos

8 frame buffer

Roster is bad, way too many people can't find a char they like or they are just picking the closest they can

Not being able to cancel of normals that you should be able to

Playing this game longer than an hour is a chore, a good example is poongko streaming nonstop practicing things like RSF, and grinding matches, now he gets bored way too easily

Vskill and crush counter are stupid and pointless mechanics, moving a special to that and there already is counter hits, no reason for it to exist

There is no reason for there not to be chip kills, I know casuals love it not being in the game but it creates fake hype with shitty comebacks and stupid situations. Being able to only chip kill with supers is racist against grapplers!
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>>342994031
Melee didn't need context
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>>342993934
Not him, but I like GG and play it in locals whenever it is possible, but you can't deny that its online is pretty dead compared to SFV.

GG just isn't very popular in the west, it is unfortunate but it is the truth, while during peak hours you can find a fair amount of people in the lobbies, they are usually the same people over and over.
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>>342994031
SFV won't have a "deep" story, it will be more akin to a Saturday morning cartoon.

Anything else wouldn't feel natural to SF.
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>>342994385
>just to say the online is dead

>GG has good tutorials
>a lot of systems
>which is actually a lie

Also it is dead online, especially in the west in which you are lucky to find one room that is getting full.
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Have they announced Akuma yet? He's my favorite character.
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>>342994693
Yes they did over the weekend
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>>342994670

Not him but is there anything stopping people from playing at Jap lobbies apart from lag? Lobbies are always full there, granted I do live in SEA so I only have 3-4f lag.
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>>342993879
He must've practiced it a lot in his preparation but to do it when it was the first time Infiltration used it in that set is extremely impressive.
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>>342966565
I've nothing to apologize. The shit came a little too late.

Also, the mechanics are babby-tier. If I want to play babby fighting games, I'd play Smash (supposedly a "fighting game"), or some other fighting game-lite. But I don't.

They should be apologizing to ME. They owe me for placing my trust in them and buying this steaming pile of shit when it was still shit.

Nothing will change, really. Update or no update, it'll still be shit, because of the design decisions they made to make the game "inclusive" to the bads and people who don't buy/play fighting games. No amount of story mode or new fighters would fix that. And for that, fuck them.

Now I'm waiting for the new KoF and Tekken. Hopefully, they won't disappoint.
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>>342994836
Hey neat, maybe I'll finally pick the game up once he gets released.
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>>342994859
>apart from lag
You say that like it isn't a huge thing

Plus they aren't, though they are more populated
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JUNE
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I bought it on release, lost interest mostly because I cant be arsed to wait 20-30minutes for one match. I did everything in my power to make sure that my connection settings and such were as open as possible, I live in europe and there should be lots of players around, but nope. Turns out others have this issue aswell.
I'll probably re-install it once the storymode comes out and I'll play trough that and then forget it for good. The fighting itself is fun enough, the game looks pretty neat, but the lack of players in general, long queue times and the lagging little shits even on 3-5 connection searches piss me off.
Its not a bad game in its core, but they fucked up royally and it will never become something I would ever recommend. Fucking shills made me think it would be a good purchase, it wasnt.
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>>342968139
just disable vsync and its all good. Thank god for g-sync monitors. Sadly the game is still shit.
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>>342994670
It's dead online with two full lobbies just on the east coast every night lol k

It doesn't matter how much you say it, the online for Revelator is awesome right now. Both in playerbase and infrastructure. If you actually played the game and went online you would know that.
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>>342995227
>I bought it on release, lost interest mostly because I cant be arsed to wait 20-30minutes for one match.
This. Connection is somewhat better now, but waiting A LOT OF TIME looking at the globe while it's loading makes me lose interest too.
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>>342966565
>once you find a match ;)
You spend more time finding a match than actually fighting though
It's why I stopped playing SF altogether
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>>342994084
Ah ok thanks senpai
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>>342994386
>The shitty netcode
It's good netcode, the matchmaking is the shit part.

>Adding useless target combos
SF4 also had useless target combos. But a lot of target combos are useful setup options that do less damage.

>Lack of proximity normals
This is a good thing.

>Every char has only two combos
Every character has a single optimal combo at different ranges, this has not changed throughout the years in any SF game. The only difference now is that scrubs can do those combos within a reasonable amount of time, so you see them more.

>8 frame buffer
Legit

>Roster is bad, way too many people can't find a char they like or they are just picking the closest they can
Time heals this wound

>Not being able to cancel of normals that you should be able to
I think this might be a character specific complaint.

>Playing this game longer than an hour is a chore, a good example is poongko streaming nonstop practicing things like RSF, and grinding matches, now he gets bored way too easily
Poongko doesnt have his crazy shenanigan character yet, there is no Seth or Fuerte. Do you really enjoy playing against either of those characters when they get you in the mixupmixupmixup stage? I can play this game for hours on end, many other streamers also play this game for hours on end. Tokido himself recently said he plays up to 8 hours a day when he can, but because he doesnt stream you dont see it.

>Vskill and crush counter are stupid and pointless mechanics, moving a special to that and there already is counter hits, no reason for it to exist
You dislike the very system that gets around a universal mechanic like focus attack or parry? vskill is specifically there so every character doesnt get the exact same mechanic, but still uses the same resource that is outside of super meter, it feels odd that someone would dislike this. CCs seem fine, pointless perhaps, but if CCs are stupid, then counterhits have to be stupid.

And yeah we know capcom hates grapplers by now.
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>>342995391
>It's dead online with two full lobbies just on the east coast every night lol k
Let me humour you, two full lobbies is about 120 people

120, that's nothing and you are already exaggerating
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>>342995847

Thats actually pretty good considering ASW fighters. Compare it to previous titles like BB where youre lucky to have something like 20
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>>342995227
>>342995424
They said they're fixing this in this update.
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>>342996035
>considering ASW fighters.
And already you are winding it back

For comparison even MKX on PC can get 300
http://steamcharts.com/app/307780
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>>342996292
steam
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>>342995424
>begin looking for ranked match
>2 to 3 minutes waiting to find someone
>finally connect
>sit staring at both you and your opponent's characters for about 30 seconds before the match actually starts
>play match
>forced to watch victory animation at the end of every match (even for offline play)
>load back into the main menu (30 seconds)
>look for another opponent for 3 minutes

It's just shit design. From the ground up. It's like the game is built around keeping you from playing as much as possible.
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>>342996292
>Niche game in a niche genre doesn't sell a lot
Fucking wow, thanks for that revelation Einstein
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>>342996414
That's how bad it is, unupdated mk does better

>>342996463
>Niche
and thus like I said, game is dead online and not the best choice for beginners
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>>342995847
I appreciate you humoring the truth.

That's 120 players in only one region. That's not counting the west coast, or the middle of the US, or the other dozens of other regions.

You don't actually play the game. At least shitpost about things you understand.
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>>342984986
>>342985013

If the game is anywhere close to the last KoF the execution barrier with be higher, and pace of gameplay will be much more intense, slick, and competitively oriented than SFV.

KoF 13 was arguably more difficult to be a high tier player than SF4 was, and SF4 was pretty fucking hard since it took SO MUCH execution and tech practice.

I like games with lots of hidden underlying tech and combos, SFV has literally none of that. It seems like every piece of possibility for each character was already strongly forced by the game designers, there is just no creativity in SFV. And when you get rid of matchup possibilities you get rid of the fun after you have already got past becoming a decent player and are moving towards advanced or elite.

Maybe that puts more ephasis on pure decision making intelligence in SFV? But people are going to get fucking sick of that, SFV has no more "fundamentals" than SF4 ever did, SF4 was just frustrating for new players with all the set-play. You don't get rid of setplay by literally taking out any interesting links and almost destroying hard knockdown.

A lot of people HATE hard knockdown but I think its one of the most genius decisions ever, the problem wasn't exactly hardknockdowns the problem how it easy it was to frametrap and option select.

Hardknockdowns drilled it into peoples fucking heads to stop jumping forward. Quick getup in SFV is so ridiculously safe that all I see in SFV is people jumping because there is not REAL danger from it.
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Anyone mind filling me in on the DLC? What do I have to do to get everyone and not get fucked by F2P bullshit?
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>>342996874
Either play every story or buy the season pass.
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>>342996874
You have three ways to get them

Season Pass - buy it and get them, a costume and a few stages

Money - buy separately

Fight Money - earned through playing the game at 100,000 each

Earning enough for all is kinda hard but not impossible, especially if you do all the single player and with dailies being added
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>>342996874
download the "one round survival" mod and blow through all of them in an hour or two.

That alone gave me 1.2 mil+ Fight Money
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>>342966565

>kicks you back to the main menu when disconnected to the internet even in offline modes
>one of the worst launches of the decade and lacks a arcade mode
>devs missed deadlines they set themselves
>gameplay is 100%rushdown mess
>made it casual friendly but then did everything it their power to turn casuals away from the game.
>"street fighter V was a mistake" - Capcom CEO

Do you honestly think that this is good fucking game design?
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cute
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>A big reason why SF4 worked flawlessly on Xbox 360 was because MS had optimization teams sent in for online games to perform well on XBLive.

>Some random posted during exclusivity reveal that their was zero chance SFV would have perfect online and not have input lag without MS.

He was right
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>>342996756
>If the game is anywhere close to the last KoF the execution barrier with be higher
It will not be. The director said he didn't want KOF14 to be the 1hr-combofest that was 13. The game will be closer to '98 and '02. Some stuff from 13 are coming back though, like HD bypass and the lax inputs.
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