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Who wants to start a new character and level with me?
>>342939883
I can't go back, man. I just can't.
>>342940109
It'll be fun
>>342939883
>2016
>WoW
>>342939883
I wish man, but WOW is fucking dead.
What made WOW awesome when it came out is it wasn't a grindy peice of shit where you had to sit and camp spawns for exp and items. You just did quests, explored the world, and had fun.
Now WOW is -the- grindiest peice of shit out there, where phone book tier 'content' is 90% of the end game where you wait for your daily/weekly allowence of crafting items, and the other 10% is repetitive grinding of the same dungeons for 12+ months.
If they release a vanilla wow server I will play
>>342939883
I'll come play, Whats your battle tag?
>>342942141
if they do it will probably filled with bullshit just like the rest
achievements, account mounts, and heirlooms
I want to, but I know nothing but sadness awaits
>>342942023
>What made WOW awesome when it came out is it wasn't a grindy peice of shit
it was grindy as fuck but just in a different way, don't talk shit mate
>>342939883
>playing an MMO with other people
How i'd love to go back to this, but if i do i feel like i'll regret it.
I mean what are the odds of Legion being worse than Warlords?More likely than i dare admit
>>342939883
When it came out the developers had a different mentality.
They just took the world they created, and threw players in it and said: Look here's the outline of a story and progression you guys make it up.
Now they've gone overboard hand-scripting every single thing that happens in the game. What you cast a spell? Better script exactly WHO it can affect, what it does, what it doesn't do, and when you're allowed to use it.
What? A boss appeared, better define where it can exist, what it's exact role and none other is etc.
The game had well defined strengths and weaknesses and it was successful for them.
But they sold out it's strengths... to fix it's weaknesses.. and it ended up medicore at everything.
They basically theme-parked the hell out of it.
Now it feels like a really really really unbelievably shitty version of witcher 3 or something... where there's cutscenes, and attempts at character development that fall flat and all actual mutliplayer in the game is just lip service essentially.
>>342939883
>Not playing Horde.
>Not making a Female Blood Elf
No thanks.
>>342943068
They've basically addressed all the problems WoD had and built Legion specifically avoiding them.
Quit being a bitch and admit Legion looks different and refreshing.
>>342943280
yeah they at least tried this time
they're pretending that class halls aren't literal garrison reskins but still
>>342943348
They nerfed the shit out of order hall rewards so they're basically not mandatory, unlike garrisons.
>>342943267
this
EU?
>>342943280
>world of diablo : infinite grinding edition
>different
>grind this cloak/ring upadtes for 1 year
>grind this weapon for 3 years...
sure thing shill
>>342942023
>>342942780
>wow
>grindy in any way
Do you suffer from ADHD?
what happened to the idea of legacy wow?
ded?
>>342943348
>>342943426
They problem with garrisons is the need for them and how good they were and how you were alone
this removes both components
fuck /v/ is just a bunch of fags who quit wow and shit on it so they dont want to come back
wod sucked
legion will probably do pretty good
>>342943547
You need to quit being a bitch, too.
>>342943559
Pristine servers. It's the only thing you're getting.
You think you want the old vanilla experience, but you don't.
>>342943547
>bitching about grinding in an mmo
>weapon takes way less then 3 years to upgrade
Why do LFR players think they even played WoW
I shit you not
if you didn't hit 2k or Heroic Raid all through an xpac you didn't really play wow
>>342943556
>i didn't play the game but i pretend i did because it's cool
mate everyone will agree with the fact that you had to grind, it wasn't a black desert online-tier grind o koreanshit game-grind but you still had to grind for fuckloads of stuff, dungeon bosses gave less loot, raid bosses gave way less loot, farming dungeon or gather stuff to make golds was grindy
it was grindy game, but it just didn't feel bad.
>>342943760
>raid
>youtube videos and strats for all bosses released even before they hit live
>if everyone understands strats you will have no fun since it's easy
>if one nigger doesn't memorize a part of the encounter you get wiped until his dumb ass learns
Raiding is fucking cancer, always has been.
>>342943921
>Raiding is fucking cancer, always has been.
MMO's arent for you
Raiding isn't about mechanic progression unless your in Method,
it's about gearing and improving your character and getting drops so you can parse higher
Mechanics take 3 seconds to learn
Also raiding has better mehanics now then it ever has
>>342943921
>Fighting against the same classes with the same spells for years on end in the same battlegrounds and arenas
Don't act like PvP is any worse fucktoy
>>342943830
It didn't feel bad because the game had community and complex multiplayer interaction going for it.
They got rid of that though with things like cross realm everything, LFG tools and phasing...
Not sure what they were going for with those changes. Some attempt to casualise it and improve the 'story-telling' aspect of it.
Problem is no one in their right fucking mind was playing WoW for the 'storyline'.
So they basically improved something no one gave a fuck about (and if you compare it to games like the witcher, WoW gets BTFO in terms of quest storyline etc.)... and in order to improve storyline they shitted up what it had going for it: Complex multiplayer interactions.
And so dies WoW; Ruler of MMOs
>>342944071
>Non scripted encounter
>Changes ever game
>More depth then Overwatch
Anon what was your highest rating
>>342944094
mate, i completely agree, i loved the old WoW and i would love to see it raise again but it's not going to happen
seriously i just wish blizzard made another mmo, they're the only company that could get it right since they did it one, even if they fucked it up later on
>>342944180
2k. I won't lie, I was at 2.5k because of a boost, but I can say at least I made it to 2k without trying too much.
But that doesn't change my point, PvP is the same shit, and it has been for years. Pretending that boring formula of CC dancing is any better than PvE mechanic dancing is a delusional thought, at best.
will pvp still be retardedly broken like it always is
>>342944438
>1800 shitter
>wants elite gear and enchants
>pays for 2.5k
LOL
Anon, just lie to me instead
Holy fuck are you one bitter cuck fag
Couldn't make it to 2.2 without a carry
Anon have you looked at Legion 3's at all?
The games are so quick, it's gonna be fucking great
CC is pretty much gone
Honestly dude w/e you say next just think that you had to pay money in WoW to achieve something because you weren't good enough
>>342939883
I tried to have another go at WoW like a week ago, Warlords of Draenor free and all.
Even with the whole char models update, the game still feels incredibly dated graphics wise.
On a related note, I was never a fan of MMOs. I bought ESO like a year ago (most of the problems on release were ddressed by then), played few characters to lvl 25-30 or so and got tired of it.
>>342944609
You wanna chill out bud
You're at about a 100 and I need you like at a 25.
And stop sidestepping my argument.
>>342944731
Wow, now that is some next tier cuck shit to say
>sidestepping my argument.
You don't have an argument, you said that WoW is boring because it has the same spells and PvP
So does every other fucking game
WoW is having a completel class overhaul and people still bitch about it.
It's just like any other competitive game, Dota, TF2, etc
It's not about the new content in WoW pvp, it's about the core mechanics
You paid money to hit 2.5k because you wanted it so bad, but then you call WoW pvp boring
>tfw have two characters sitting in inns on kronos letting my rested EXP build up
I think I have autism but I can't let myself get burnt out again
where u @, OP
I wanna gank u
>>342939883
>Legion launches soon
>Casters will be FUBAR in pvp
No, thanks.
>>342942023
alright back the fuck up you are either baiting hardcore or don't know what the fuck you're talking about
wow on vanilla was a buggy, grindy, slow as fuck piece of shit where you had to sit and camp spawns for exp and items. that's why "the world" felt full, nobody could fucking progress because the game was so slow.
you're mostly right about the description of modern wow though. legion is being built (and the live beta gives evidence to this) with the entire level range in mind, instead of purely endgame stuff that's been going on since cata. hopefully they'll learn with legion, but if not, it's probably fucking over. wod traumatized a lot of people.
>>342944918
Why are you under the assumption I paid money for a carry? I had a friend carry me in exchange for a real-life favor, and it wasn't because I asked but because he offered because he's a poorfag.
WoW pvp is as static and mundane as its PvE. And when legion hits and the arenas and BGs change, so will the changes to raiding. They're putting less emphasis on class knowhow and more on learning to dodge and counter boss mechanics, something I'd bet a couple bucks on they got from FFXIVs raiding scene, but I digress.
The fact that you think the static dancing of CCs as of now is any better than the current raiding scene of dancing through mechanics is laughably stupid.
>>342945442
I guess I should just stick to /pol/ because this might as well be fucking reddit
> had a friend carry me in exchange for a real-life favor
No you didn't
None of that happened, you honestly didn't even hit 2k
And if you did is was probably some easy comp or like on a fucking melee class
Your next paragraph says nothing besides it shows that you play some weeb tier shit
>FFXIV
>The fact that you think the static dancing of CCs as of now is any better than the current raiding scene of dancing through mechanics is laughably stupid.
What the fuck are you talking about
WoW raiding is the only good part right now, mechanics are fun, getting gear is fun and if you don't like either of them honestly, MMO's arent for you.
I peg you as a Dark Souls and anime type of piece of shit
>>342945346
Eh, killing 20 tigers, then moving on to kill 20 tigers, then an elite tiger, then going to another zone to kill centaurs is way less grindy then grind 20 tigers, then come back tomorrow to do it again until you have enough ilvl to actual start enjoying content.
God forbid you miss a daily reset.
>Want to play this again
>Would only really care to play alliance
I've had enough of horde spiked buildings for one century, thanks
>>342944462
The PvP balance on beta is pretty fucked right now. They've still got a couple months to fix it but I'm not holding my breath considering how they handled PvP in WoD.
>>342939883
Is glorious Stormwind still a ghost-town?
>>342945000
That's how you do it man, I'm doing the same thing but mostly because I have other shit I need to do. It was nice how they had this system that wasn't so completely apologetic to folks who couldn't dedicate as much time, but there were small ways like resting that could act as a boost so it wasn't a total loss to stop playing.
also checked
>>342939883
buy me membership or let me use one of your accounts.
>>342939883
Tried playing again too, this time playing as Alliance for I think the first time ever. Feels pretty new and fun and retribution paladin is pretty fun.
>>342945000
>Played on LFG
>Burnt out for two weeks
>Come back, full rested
>Roll through 65-68 in two days.
And of course I'm getting some of that rested exp back as we speak, should have full rested all the way to 70.
>>342943760
>if you didn't hit 2k or Heroic Raid all through an xpac you didn't really play wow
I got to 1750 and completed Flex Raiding. I think I hit the upper crust of what a casual is likely to experience.
>>342948431
>1750 and flex
>thinks he's accomplished something
This is everything wrong with WoW
>>342948431
>1750
you really think that getting 1750 means something?
wow >>342948742 is right.
>>342948742
>giving a fuck about retards running around a pilar
i remember being 4 years old and having fun running in circles
I'm down OP
>>342942141
http://www.kronos-wow.com/
What happened to death knights since wotlk? I resubbed to play my old death knight and it was turned into a class for retards.
>permanent death runes over blood runes (removed?)
>every ability that were boosted by your diseases (death strike, obliterate, scourge strike) don't require your diseases to be up anymore
>death and decay is just one unholy rune and pestilence was removed
>frost strike straight up replaces death coil so you can't lichborne and death coil heal yourself
>only unholy death knights get a ghoul now
>Rune strike removed
>Hungering Cold removed
>Hysteria removed
>Heart strike removed
>So many abilities pruned
I get that death knight was never the hardest class to play, but I liked all my niche abilities and actually having to sorta try. And in legion there's only going to be one disease now? What the fuck did they do to my favorite class?I guess arcane mages are cool now I guess
>>342943760
but anon, raiding *is* the casual experience
>>342950652
Even with how easy it was to solo content as a Death Knight, they further made them easymode, right up there with Huntards.
Arcane has been One Button Man for a while now, is that shit finally going away in Legion?
>>342943267
Stopped playing horde because I couldn't take unga bunga orc garrison. Looked like fucking shite
>mained hunter since retail vanilla
>always get shit on for playing the easy class
>play shaman for the first time recently
>from level 1 I've had 0 problems with anything and have played mostly solo
I forgot how annoying and broken these fucks were
>>342951920
No that's just current Wow. Nothing's a threat anymore.
>It's a tank in full heirloom links overall damage at the end of dungeon episode
S-sorry>but you're still ranked 1 as monk
>>342952052
>it's a vanilla prot paladin links overall damage at the end of dungeon episodethe only thing they were ever good for besides killing rogues
>>342946285
You've been holding your breath for 5 expansions now.
Unless you think arena balance has ever been remotely decent.
>>342952006
I'm talking about vanilla
>>342942141
Play on Nostalrius
How much space does this game take up and what kind of hoops do you have to jump through to play it? I kind of want to get to 20 just for the free hearthstone hero, but it seems like a bit of a hassle.
>>342952450
kek
>>342952450
>>342952553
>>342952557
>>342952594
HAHA LOOOOL
Have an upvote, good sir
>>342951881
>Go to Orgrimmar
>Spikes and mudhuts
>Go to Stormwind
>Stone-paved streets and comfy atmosphere
>Garrisons are the exact same way
It's not even a fair contest
>>342952829
quality post
I'll look forward to hearing from you again
>>342939883
>everyone sits in capitals/dungeons till 90
>everyone wearing looms
>no one even talks in dungeons, people act like.bots.
>world pvp almost nonexistent, people don't even fight at apexis spots
>horde can barely win trashcan
>can hit 100 without even walking into nagrand.
The game is just not fun. The only thing potentially neat about legion is the dungeon altering items that change bosses. Challenge dungeons was the best thing in Wod period, because you needed specific items, class comps, and abilities to even beat them. They need more of that.
But honestly after playing wod for about 7 months, I'd rather breathe an exit bag filled with gaben farts than hand metzen more money.
>>342952959
To be fair I knew a ton of people in vanilla who never even knew winterspring was a zone.
>>342952837
orcs are literally the niggers of warcraft
>violent as fuck for no reason
>still live in mud huts
>WE WUZ
>>342939883
>40 minutes later
well that was fun!
>>342952837
I don't get why they couldn't just let us choose race specific buildings for things. Surely they must just have prefabs of shit lying around?
>>342953178
>we wuz honorable n' sheet
>>342953445
Because that would require time and effort., and johnny fresh out of college phone game programming classes can't into doodads.
>>342939883
Until they improve fishing rewards no I will never reinstall.
Don't give me fucking recolored mounts, don't give me TIMED item bullshits. Give me fucking fucking rewards blizzard.
>>342953445
Oh sorry, race-specific buildings in garrisons would cost you a raid tier.
Not enough resources, but don't worry! Here's Twitter integration and a selfie camera, which totally isn't just a glorified screenshot button!
>>342952959
Ive met tons of people in dungeons man, to say that "nobody" talks is a gross generalization
Legion seems like it has more too it, but fuck WoD burned me bad. It was such a fucking empty expansion. It felt rushed as fuck and they basically dropped it post release.
Who /unobtainablemog/ here when Legion hits?
For the past 10 years I have told myself I am done with this game. Since Cata onwards I have quit the game, each time thinking "yeah, this is the final time I quit, I'm not interested". Each fucking time I do that, I come back. It could be months and months later, but I come back. I even managed to not give a fuck about an expansion, for the first time. Then my friend said he was starting, and I got bit again.
The impact this game has had on gaming as a whole is so fucking amazing. There are millions of people out there for whom this was the best game they've ever played. It isn't that game any more, but so many wish it was. I think Blizzard would be fucking crazy to not try and monetise that feeling. That's why I think we'll see Vanilla servers announced during Blizzcon.
>>342954662
nice pleb shit, where are your Robes of Doan
I wanna buy Legion but if I do from a CDKEY site do I still get 100 boost?
>>342955275
Right here m8
>Decide to check out Outlaw Rogue
>Looks fun as fuck
I hope there's some way of getting a full pirate transmog, because the only pirate hat i can think of is a cloth piece
>>342953445
>tfw no Forsaken garrison
I'm glad they realized yearly expansions were a retarded idea though, Legion might not be horrible now.
They shouldn't have blown their load on hyping up WoD. People aren't as willing to trust them now.
>>342939883
I cant go back anon, Not yet atleast
>>342955725
better
but I still question playing affliction
>tfw deleted the alt that had matching shoulders
end my fucking existence
Never played wow before, is it worth it now or just find a different mmo
>>342957132
If you didnt start playing wow in AT LEAST early Wrath theni wouldn't bother
>>342956439
>I'm glad they realized yearly expansions were a retarded idea though, Legion might not be horrible now.
This. "Yearly" expansions results in a completely fucked patch cycle. I have no problem with the classic 3 major patches and a year without content. Don't see what the fuss is about. That's when I just take a break, usually burned out by then anyway.
>tfw no forsaken garrison
Yeah Im so fucking tired of Horde = Orcs/Humans = Alliance. This isnt warcraft 2 anymore, the other races are just as much a part of their factions.
>>342956809
Haven't been paying to the 110 balancing, but leveling as affliction is great
>Pull 8 mobs
>Agony them all
>Phantom Singularity
>Seed + talent and watch everything explode
>DL Filler + Soul Leech + Phantom Singularity heal make me fucking invincible
>>342939883
I think i'm gonna make an alt and level it up, but not with you anon, not with you.
>>342959148
This. Fuck op, he can't be any more of a faggot than he already is but he's still trying.
>>342959571
You must be at least 18 years old to post here.
>>342959628
You must be at least 18 years old to post here.
>>342959628
>>342959776
You must be at least 18 years old to post here.
>All these vanilla faggots
Vanilla was shit. BC is when the game started getting good.
>>342957970
The problem isn't the patch cycle
The problem is the contest doesn't last unless you do mythic shit.
But if you have a life you're fucked.
"We want it more accessible" bull fucking shit.
I realized what they were doing after MOP and quit after beating the last raid. on a patch on LFR, the grind isn't worth it anymore.
>>342944609
>Anon have you looked at Legion 3's at all?
>The games are so quick, it's gonna be fucking great
How many times will I hear this same song and dance every expansion?
>>342959921
Considering Wotlk exists, and everything after
Both vanilla and TBC was good.
>>342959921
Yea, only retarded children who never played vanilla want to play vanilla
>>342959921
>BC was when I was leet, I have the arena gear to prove it!
t.welfare fags
>>342954662
I have a fuckton of pieces you can't get anymore and completely unique. Remember the Chromatic Sword with the retarded stats but that unique rainbow looking glow effect? Yeah I got a few stashed away...they are worth nearly gold-cap right now.
SHOW ME YOUR TRANSMOGS OR I WILL SHOOT AT YOU WITH THIS GUN WHICH I HAVESLUTMOGS WILL BE SHOT ON SIGHT
>>342944094
>>342943830
>>342943556
>>342942780
The only thing that will kill WoW is WoW itself, legacy servers when
>>342960643
Transmogs should be disabled in all pvp instances.
>>342960814
Why?
>>342950652
Death knights were always a class for retards, the modern aoe style of dungeons was started in WotLK exactly because of the DK.
>>342960643
I also have a set I use with my tabard of protector. Only respectable way to wear pally T2 or T3 is if you have that tabard imo.
>>342960048
>tfw you owned a s3 stormdrake mount
>tfw your entire vanilla PvP experience was just competing for who spends the most time in Battlegrounds as opposed to who is the best player
>tfw everyone who was r14 in vanilla was shit in arena because they didn't have raiding gear to save their ass
TBC was a good time too bad every bit of arena gear that wasn't shoulders was pisseasy to get
>>342961168
I always thought shoulders being the high rated piece was the silliest shit
>>342961286
blizzard knew people wanted shoulders the most for that epeen
within a second you knew who played arena and was good at it and who was just getting welfare epics
>>342961102
I always thought that pally CM helm looked like shit too
>>342961102
Tabard of the Silver Hand would really compliment this bro.
>>342939883
don't bother anon, I've been playing for a couple weeks with the free month you get watching the movie and it's the same gameplay, sure they changed skills around and your rotation is different but it's a 12 year old game
>>342961102
I wonder why 2008 was the only Olympics they gave a shit about. I think nothing was made for 2012 and I heard nothing for this year.
>>342944609
I had wondered what tryhards would resort to now that you can basically pay gold for getting anything you want done for you ingame, to distinguish themselves from those casual shitters that do. I guess this is it, you pretend to be omniscient and call people out on it on the internet.
Desperately cling to your achievements that everybody has, now!
>>342944918
>>342944609
>cuck this cuck that
you do realise the more you use the word cuck the more you come across as a 30yo virgin spergtist right?
>>342952551
I did that, I ended up spending and extra £25 and leveling to max lol.
>>342961582
Yeah man I have it stored away since wrath but so many casuals are running around with it now that shadowmourne is piss-easy to obtain along with all those rewards. Was glorious back in the day before they nerfed the glow effect.
Stop making me want to play this, I can't even decide on a class.
Never good with choices like this.
>>342961637
>top arena is people with bots and humans because lol horde is blizzard favorite!
>skills!
just ignore anyone who mentions arena
>>342943178
>What you cast a spell? Better script exactly WHO it can affect, what it does, what it doesn't do, and when you're allowed to use it.
You have a point but this isn't it. Why the fuck would some wizard not know what the hell his fireball or ticklish nose spell does? Too much information is a problem, but not about your own goddamn character.
>>342961929
That reminds me that the new transmog system affects shirts and tabards. I can finally wear the only Argent Dawn tabard on all my characters.
>kind of want to play again
When the fuck can I appear offline on battle.net so I don't have to deal with all my friends bothering me when I just want to be a faggot and rp in peace
>>342961616
The gold medal (pet) was the kicker. The tabard you got on the first BG you played, win or lose. Friends and guildies often ran BGs all day and still never got the pet.
>>342962447
What really grinds my gears is you can go to the vendor in IF and grab a competitor's tabard for any alt, regardless of level as long as you already have the feat of strength. Why they don't do this for the other tabards like Argent Dawn or Protector is beyond me. Here's hoping we can at least mog them since I haven't tried the PTR.
>>342962657
Christ do I know this feeling. Especially with all my normie friends who play Overwatch now having B.net accounts.
>>342962817
You can mog anything that's been equipped (or is in the inventory on patch day of the new transmog system) of any character you have.
Post transmogs
Rate transmogs
>>342962817
>Friends and guildies often ran BGs all day and still never got the pet
The pet is probable the rarest/only unobtainable item I have in WoW.
>>342963394
>mfw all these people have unique transmogs of mixed pieces when I'm too comfortable with the armor set I always wanted since it was released
>All I can do is try to find unique weapons to match with it in order to compensate for a lack of creativity/love of the armor set itself.
Serious props to the people that make their own unique transmog.
>>342962817
I find that weird because they mentioned with each win the chance for the pet was increased by 1/8 till it you got it
>>342963861
I had a unique transmog but priest t13 + amice of brilliant light is the shit
>>342963396
Eh you'd be surprised what you have stored away that you had no idea was rare or unobtainable.
>>342963861
I love my rogue set and it's exactly that. Just a bunch of random shit I threw together and I still love it. Torturing Poker which is rare as hell and yes that's a Blood Knight Tabard on a rogue. Old glitch back in BC. Probably the only rogue in the world that has one (not sure how it will work in legion but until then, I am a snowflake)
>>342963396
>decided to log in on a rogue made back in vanilla
>level 76
>check inventory/bank
> inventory is full of now grey poisons,thieves tools, and a faded photograph
>>342964005
It was based on wins so you're probably right though I never read that anywhere. Maybe they just weren't winning?
>>342964252
>spend days grinding for flarethorn
>a staff better than my dagger drops less than 24 hours later
>>342964252
I only wish there were more libram belts available.
>>342964319
>quit during WotLK
>came back on a free 2 day trial just after WoD released
>all my characters had been hacked and everything taken, including sentimental collectables
strange feeling
>>342965060
so you lost access to your bnet account somewhere along the line?
>>342964715
I use that belt with my golden sunwell set. Wish blizz did more class specific stuff like this.
>>342965242
Yep, I had to recover it before I could get the 2 or so days of free game time.
I'm sure support could have restored all my items too, but I'm done playing WoW. I just wanted to see all the cool shit I had collected. At least they couldn't sell my mounts
>>342965245
Also does anyone remember when quivers shown on the back? Miss that too...
>>342960643
Only time I used it was to change the plate helms I got into those plate headbands
>Get into legion beta
>Login to my destro lock
>Half of my spells have been pruned
>Iconic abilities are now talents
>Rotation is so monotonous and simple it hurts
>"Noo...they wouldn't.."
>Check my rogue
>it'sfuckedm8bigtime.jpg
>Log out
>Sadness covers me like a blanket, tuck me in, let me die.
>>342968157
Tried pirate rogue?
I'm glad my main classes seem fine (frost DK + Shadow priest) but idk what to do about my hunter/rogue/warrior
>>342960643I enjoyed punching enemies to death as Fury
>mfw I'm too stupid to figure out how to get into kronos
>>342968157
Have you tried demo lock? That's the only thing I'm excited about, although I love my destro lock right now.
I was just listening to the vanilla wow soundtrack the other day and getting incredibly nostalgic. I wish I could go back to those days. Vanilla wow was one of the best experiences of my life. I know that sounds sad but it was. Wish I could go back and live it again. Not just for wow but life for me was simpler back then. Fuck.
I played from release up until end of Lich King. I was pretty sad to hear that they basically destroyed old Azeroth in Cataclysm. All those memories lost forever.
>>342971814
You can't go back anon. Oh how many times have I tried to replay Morrowind and never felt the same. You can never get that feeling again.
>>342971814
It doesn't sound sad. Most of us hail something from the past as something irreplaceable.I played WoW in vanilla and am only reminded of many inconvenience and annoyances. So much that I remain convinced the game has only improved over time. Yes, the community is shit but I'm only led to believe this because players were only made more aware of it than ever before. There were just as many shitter casuals back then.
Remember the days when forced dailies weren't a thing? Good times. Now you have to log in just so you don't waste all your daily cooldowns.
>>342972306
Wasn't Mooncloth a weekly thing?
>>342970482
don't they have a guide on their website?
iirc from nos it's as simple as downloading the client and replacing the realmlist file with the one for the server.
>>342972034
With wow it is a bit different. You can't have the wonder and mystery of diving into morrowind the first time. But you can dive in to old wow and experience that sense of community and growth. That is what every mmo since WoTLK has forgotten about. What made mmos so great and popular was that each server was a community. People had to work together and talk to each other because no one could make it alone. There was too much to do and not enough time even if you were a neet. in 2016 the fastest 1-60 is what, around 90 hours. WoD took 8 hours to get to max level at release. And Legion looks no better. They are just making shallow single player experiences. When you leveled in the older mmo's you built a bond with your character because it took you weeks, months to get to max level.
I enjoyed vanilla, TBC, hell even wrath, but i also accept those are never coming back.
They were hardly technical masterpieces in design, vanilla was a fucking shitshow in terms of balance (some class specs were literally unusable) and bugged out like crazy, but that sense of community won't come back.
Just have to learn to deal with it, still manage to have fun and down the line met new folks to hang out with in-game and do shit.
Just wish i could deal with playing Horde for longer than an hour before i feel like i'm making a mistake.
>>342974418
b-but anon, druids were okay dungeon tanks!
>Just started playing last month, hit max level in 17 days
>mfw trying to do all this garrison shit, learn how to not be shit at dps, and get this stupid legendary ring before the prepatch hits all at once
It's all a bit much. I wish I'd started this earlier.
>>342974661
Sure they were, about as good as a protection paladin.
Not to mention how good priests were at dps, right?
Don't even get me STARTED on how beneficial an arcane mage was to your group.
>>342975006
and assassination rogues?
FORGET ABOUT IT!
>>342974418
>Just wish i could deal with playing Horde for longer than an hour before i feel like i'm making a mistake.
Christ do I know this feeling
>Make horde alt
>EVERYTHING feels wrong and foreign during the entire leveling process
>>342955308
yes
>>342974732
Just give up at this point mate, get started in legion.
>>342972642
What you just described about old MMOs is what I went through in FFXIV. Servers have communities, takes awhile to reach the level cap, and you have to socialize with people to get shit done like crafting or midcore/savage content
>>342942780
I was thinking about this earlier, but for me all the fun was in seeing my character advance, not racing to the endgame to minmax. The endgame in vanilla was kinda part of that though, just to a much more challenging degree.
>>342944438
>Play on roleplaying server
>Get to 3.4k in one day and don't play again until the end of the season
>Challenger
>>342974732
I just gave up.
I realized I wasn't having any fun grinding for Draenor flying and the garrison shit so now I'm just signing in to do the holiday shit for the violet proto-drake every other month until Legion hits.
I figure there is no point in trying to hit gold cap too, since everybody else already has so the market in Legion is going to be inflated to all hell no matter what.
>>342939883
fuck I'm late, I want to.
>>342939883
>was going to resub to play mage
>see this
>NOPE.jpg
>>342975191
Exactly, i want to see that side of things but i'm just so used to hanging out in Ironforge and Stormwind with their fancy castles and comfy as hell snowy mountains.
>>342975824
It was pretty jarring going from Ironforge/Stormwind to Orgimmar and the Undercity. I can see why the Horde are pissed off all the time with such garbage tier capitals.
>>342975818
You could at least elaborate on what's bothering you here.
>>342974732
It's now literally impossible to get the ring if you aren't on the 10th of the 33 tomes.
Give up. The ring is worthless anyway.
>>342974732
dont bother with the legendary ring, i did the same thing at the end of mop for the legendary cloak and replaced it immediately after hitting 100 for it just to sit in my bank for all of eternity because you cant tmog legendary items.
>>342975818
looks like tier 8.
Fact: Female Dwarves would be much more popular had Blizzard not done such a piss poor job on their model.
New player here I have a lvl 16 orc warrior and a lvl 13 dwarf hunter games bretty fun
Any of you want to play? I had made a discord server with a couple of anons but we didnt get around to play the game yet.
If someone intends to play WoW in a private server give me a (you)
>>342975191
undead4lyf here
I feel the same but about alliance
for me I enjoy the forsaken zones most
Forsaken > Human > Orc shit.
>>342976194
Actually you can now tmog the cloak. Which makes me regret not finishing it.
>>342943760
More like mythic, heroic is fucking easy
>>342943921
That's cute,
Might aswell say no point in playing any game if you can watch a vid of how a level is perfectly done
With raiding it just doesn't go that way, especially with so many people that could fuck up and random elements
>>342976774
If there's one thing I liked about being on horde it was being an undead rogue. Something about the deathstalkers, zombie ninjas, really pleased me. I don't think there's a more iconic role for undead than rogue.
I would probably play undead rogue again if I wasn't such a huge fucking casual spoiled by the easier classes.
>>342943921
PVP is the only part of the game that has ever required skill and it also gets the least amount of content.
>only a few new bgs/arenas per expansion
>world pvp is dead outside the buzzword "pvp zones"
>all gear is welfare gear
>mounts and titles are only given to the top few arena players completely invalidating all other forms of pvp
>>342977371
rogue the easiest class I've ever leveled lol, granted this was in TBC where I'd only leveled a priest + warrior before.
I feel shadow priest is perfect for undead, all those abandoned human churches everywhere, given up on the light as the light abandoned us etc etc
>>342977371
Undead Rogues aren't iconic because of lore reasons.
>>342943280
>They've basically addressed all the problems WoD had and built Legion specifically avoiding them
>>342939883
UD had the best zone.
Debate me.
>>342950085
Do this if you want to experience the most toxic community ever.
>>342942023
It's probably quicker getting from 1 to max level now than at any point in the history of WoW considering all the exp buffs and heirloom gear. You can literally just not do quests or ever repeat a dungeon and get straight to 90.
It's the end game that's the problem, I really don't know where you get this view from or how many years its been since you last played WoW. I don't think grindy is something I'd have called the levelling experience since cata hit which was nearly 6 years ago.
>>342943280
Legion looks like more of the same but somehow even more casual.
>no more zone progression or hook quests to lead you to the next area since you can just go anywhere and do anything whenever you want
>massive ability prune taking away iconic class skills that have existed since vanilla
>everything is tuned for singleplayer now so you never have to group with anyone ever
>>342977735
No. They're iconic because of the players. This is something even the devs have addressed over the years with numerous NPC undead rogues. I think it's pretty cool that MMOs can make their own "memes."
Even I remember ganking people in stranglethorn on my undead rogue. Good times.
>>342977668
Shadow Priests are more lore iconic, I admit. I went from rogue to paladin in WOTLK. They were simplified immensely in that expansion and the ability to do so much more than simply DPS and go invisible just made life so much easier that I've only gone on to play Monk and Warrior, always going back to Paladin in the end.
>>342943178
Writing all that autistic shit - based entirely on his autism... omg.
>>342961089
This, it was always a faceroll class.
>>342961089
Death Knights were always a patrician class for steamrolling shitters.
>tfw being unkillable blood god in wotlk
>>342978301
>Get on Legion Beta
>Make a DK
>All the disease management is gone from Frost
>They have four rotation attacks (Without talents) and one activated damage boosti'm a casual so this is great to me.
Is anyone here actually down to level a new character?
>>342978502
Sure I have 4 hours to waste.
>>342939883
oh man. i know i shouldn't but i want to...
>>342977668
Undead casters in general are great.
I always wanted to play an undead mage just for the casting animations.
>>342977893
nah, you're right.
the whole eastern horde progression is great
Tirisfal - Silverpine - Tarren Mill.
who else best race/best class here?
>>342976108
Look at the fucking bars.
Dude has no buttons. They cut them all out so grandma could play it.
>>342979132
doesn't beat original 1k needles - gadget - ungoro
my fav part of leveling a newtoon
>>342979375
it does, fuck your desert.
Actually I think I just hate 1000needles, not tried since 2006 or whenever though.
>>342961958
well on the bright side when Legion hits there are only going to be a handful of classes worth playing that weren't totally gutted so it should make deciding easier for you.
>>342979375
Orc zones were the absolute worst. I'd have more fun popping hemorrhoids. Un Goro was okay.
>>342960643
What I last had on live.It'll be a slutmog in Legion due to shoulder hiding
>>342979187
I like my Orc Death Knight.
>>342943556
It is grindy in a very repetitive way.
WoW endgame is purely about doing dailies and shit. Its a boring fest.
Before you weren't handheld, so only small percentage of hardcores really did the grindy shits. Now you're required to be grindy everyday.
Forced dailies are cancer.
>>342977893
Tirisfal > Mulgore > Elwynn Forest > Teldrassil > Dun Morogh > Durotar
>>342975818
AAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAH you could play frost mage with three fingers! AHAHAHAH Every day I find new reasons not to resub to retail.
Blizzard really just doesn't give a shit anymore.
>>342979187
Gnome DK? My main.
>>342979650
>people actually have fond memories of the barrens/durotar
Proof that nostalgia will make anything seem great. The only zone worse was Desolace. Fuck Desolace.
>>342979650
>>342979603
you are both wrong, though.
also stv
>>342942023
>What made WOW awesome when it came out is it wasn't a grindy peice of shit where you had to sit and camp spawns for exp and items. You just did quests, explored the world, and had fun.
Did you ever actually touch Vanilla?
>>342960558
Still got my zulian stone axe
OP if it's a private server then sure, but retail no fucking way.
>>342957970
>Yeah Im so fucking tired of Horde = Orcs/Humans = Alliance. This isnt warcraft 2 anymore, the other races are just as much a part of their factions.
Back when I played I had Dwarves guarding my Garrison and had Ironforge Banners flying everywhere. Wasn't gonna let some humie scum guard my shit, this is Dorf territory.
>>342979968
Barrens was actually kinda comfy, though. nice sprawling savannah with rolling plains and zebras and shit.
Durotar was complete ass, though.
>>342979887
>WoW endgame is purely about doing dailies and shit. Its a boring fest.
It's not "purely about doing dailies" dumbass. At worst the "have to" dailies part is reduced to obtaining Draenor flying. The rest is only if you want to do that.
>Now you're required to be grindy everyday.
When it came to Vanilla and leveling general it was fucking grindfest to get to 60 AND the raids themselves were insane grind because no catch-up mechanics whatsoever and having to gear 40+ people.
I'm going to play Legion because I'm retarded and hate myself.
I want to play Enhance, but the problem is, not only I'm I retarded am also a 14 year old edgy grimdark loser at heart and can only play UD.
I hate all the other Shaman races.
I have narrowed it down to female space goat and male troll.
Anyone else way too picky for their own good?
>>342976194
>i did the same thing at the end of mop for the legendary cloak and replaced it immediately after hitting 100 for it just to sit in my bank for all of eternity because you cant tmog legendary items.
I kept mine as a Healer until Heroic Highmaul. The stats and gem slots were just too good.
>>342980412
>female space goat
May as well play on Moonguard, wear a slutmog, and roll a healer while you're at it.
>>342980412
Don't fucking do it. There's no reason to.
There are private servers vanilla through cata that are at least 80-90% blizzlike without many bugs.
>>342980412
>Anyone else way too picky for their own good?Female Panda picks for anything that isn't warrior. Doesn't fit them.
>I hate all the other Shaman races.
Try to make a good orc female, seriously. They have a good body for a lot of gear and good animations to go with it.While looks are one thing for me the best animations are always the biggest reason for race pick.
>>342980782
>Don't fucking do it. There's no reason to.
Where's the reason to play on private servers that aren't blizzlike?
>>342980782
If you're just looking for a quick nostalgia fix you can just set your own up, it takes zero effort.
>>342980412
>Not playing a Dwarf Shaman
>Actually considering Draenei
What's wrong with you
>>342939883
>make priest
>run around tab switching and casting dots
>loot
it's 2 easy
>>342960770
never, already confirmed, and it's for the best, legacy servers are shit.
>>342980943
>playing any Dwarf but Warrior
>>342980943
>>342981130
>Playing Dorf after crazyface was kill
>>342980886
There are blizzlike 1x exp mostly scripted private servers that aren't donate2win that are further along that vanilla. If you're not happy with how Blizz is taking their game just go back to a time when you still enjoyed it.
>>342981035
>Already confirmed
Stop fucking lying you goddamn retard. Just parroting shit you read on /v/ or Reddit with no sources whatsoever. Smug blizzdrone regretting wasting his money on a game that has been slowly dying. Fearful for the thousands of hours he's spent on his female blood elf paladin will all be for naught. Probably don't even raid.
>>342981226
Dorf isn't the same since Moira Slutbeard let all those Dark Iron degenerates in.
>>342981246
Even if they have the same exp rates it means fuckall (leveling was the worst to begin with so playing on 1x is torture anyhow) as enemy values and shit won't be the same.
>go back to a time when you still enjoyed it.
Literally "ride on the wings of nostalgia".
>>342981308
>Fearful for the thousands of hours he's spent
Like those who played on Nostalrius ;^)?
>>342939883
I'm free from this cancer.
Finally.
>>342960643
panda>everything else
>>342981493
They started from scratch and had one year. You started from scratch and have been scratching your tiny dick ever since, because no woman or self-respecting man would ever scratch it for you, bitch.
>>342979873
post slutmogs
>>342981308
Blizzard talking about legacy servers was just damage control because they never expected so much backlash. They're never going to do it.
>>342980307
Raids were only done by small percentage. Now everyone is forced to raid. Everyone is forced to daily.
This wasn't the case back then. You fucking wow fanboys are worse than shit.
I play horde on thrall
>>342942023
Still millions of players i wouldn't call it dead. Even at its lowest sub point its millions ahead of any other MMO lol
>>342960643
tfw got Hailstorm on my horde character, just waiting to resub when the patch hits
>>342981632
Sorry, didn't realize you worked for Blizzard as well as working for mowing your mom's lawn to get allowance money, $15 dollars on a subscription and $5 on Dew and tissues. Little baby dick presumptive faggot. Guzzling corporate cock and speaking on their behalf without knowing shit.
>Vanilla had more subs than modern WoW does
From a marketing perspective, which is Blizzard's perspective, legacy servers are a good idea, you fucking dumbass. No company gives a fuck about damage controlling their own IP. Retard.
>>342980412
>Anyone else way too picky for their own good?
I am still and always will be ass hurt about Tauren paladins.
Fuck you Blizzard. The only reason you did this was because you were tired of having to roll blood elves when you wanted to play paladins on Horde. Three paragraphs of bullshit lore about cows looking at the sun is not enough to justify tauren priests/paladins. The Light does not abide.Yes I am among those autists that would have preferred Forsaken paladins. Hell, even orcish paladins led by Eitrigg would have been better.
>>342981846
>Still millions of players i wouldn't call it dead.
Around 4 million down from its peak of around 12 million. Blizzdrones can talk about how great the game is now but numbers don't lie.
>>342981493
Nostalgia really doesn't have much to do with it. Older versions of WoW are objectively more fun. There is more challenge in it, and more of a reason to actually play the game.
>>342981604
>You started from scratch and have been scratching your tiny dick ever since, because no woman or self-respecting man would ever scratch it for you, bitch.
Got something to tell, anon? It's ok, let it all out.
>>342981676
>Raids were only done by small percentage
Partly because of the retarded 40 man design. Getting 40 people together is a challenge in itself.
>Now everyone is forced to raid.
No they aren't. I'm not raiding.
> Everyone is forced to daily.
Nobody is forced to daily. Like I said, the only "obligatory" daily grind for ~2 weeks is for Draenor flying. Beyond that you don't "have to" do any fucking dailies.
>>342964715
so unfair that set is pally only, it's beautiful
>>342982025
Fuck that, I'm still mad horde gets paladins, and alliance gets shamans. It was better when the opposing factions had differences.
>>342982019
I'm not the guy you were talking to faggot, I hate modern Blizzard. Expecting them to make legacy servers is the most retarded thing ever if you pay attention to how everyone at Blizzard acts. Resilience destroyed PVP and they spent years trying to make it work instead of removing it like they should have. They see every change they make as good no matter what. Also legacy servers won't be as profitable because people won't be buying level boosts, cash shop mounts, or expensive xpacs with no content.
>>342982106
>Got something to tell, anon? It's ok, let it all out
Yeah I'm sick of you holier-than-thou faggots acting like you're all high and mighty because you pay $15 a month, or a 20 hour work week in gold to play a game that involves you doing the same shit, then doing it again on a harder difficulty. Three times, and acting like it's better than it used to be, despite all the overwhelming amounts of evidence stacked against you ugly pimply fat dickhead bellend shitsniffers. You can't justify paying for such a piece of boring, repetitious bullshit so you just mask your self in an illusory sense of self-worth and feigned superiority, but deep down you know you are wasting your time and money and will never get it back. Meanwhile I'm out with my girl while she's literally sucking my nipples and jacking me off. I have no regrets, but I'm sick of every legacy server thread being shat up by assclowns.
>>342982031
Thats cool and all but the game isn't dead. Blizzard haters can talk about how dead it is but numbers don't lie.
>>342982061
>Older versions of WoW are objectively more fun.
Name those objective reasons when they were objectively far more tedious to play, especially level up in. Raids in Vanilla were hot garbage designwise. Getting around the world was tedious as fuck and niche capitals will forever remain shit because bad connections to the outside world. Quests at times were nowhere to be found so you'd just grind.
Literally Nostalgia would make this "more fun".
>There is more challenge in it
To you challenge seems to be "it was more tedious to level up so it was so challenging!"
How the fuck were they *objectively* more fun?
>>342981923
Looks fucking great, nice job dwarf friend.
>>342981550
>tabard unrelated to anything panda
you tried
>>342982442
Not dead YET, it's circling the drain. Enjoy being on the same raid tier for over a year just like the last two expansions.
>>342982386
You think they'd add those things in if the game was profitable to begin with, retard? Fuck no. It's obviously on the backburner.
>>342952450
It's cute blizzdrones think Nostalrius was like some kind of unique thing.
>>342982426
>All the evidence
>Only proceeds to make projections about his own insecurities and make up insults.
E P I C
>>342982561
Look man i get it you don't like the game thats fine but im allowed to enjoy it right? I don't even raid lol
>>342982584
They started the cash shop shit back when the game was peaking in WoTLK, desperation has nothing to do with it, just greed.
>>342982558
pandarelated tabards are ugly as fuck
>>342982551
>Levelling up takes longer, and the raids suck!
You've missed the point of the game then.
>>342982551
It's not worth convincing you. If you enjoy wod and legion more, then by all means play that instead. I envy you, man.
>>342982719
stop hiding your gorgeous panda belly
>>342981613
Gotta be matched with the Whirlwind Axe's return.
I just came back. I left a week into Cata, bought and popped into MoP for a Month, then left again and here I am.
I'm rolling a female Dwarf Warlock as my main
>>342982727
Which was what? WoW's endgame has always been a gear treadmill and grind. Grind for GM/HW ranks was insanity.
>>342982784
If you actually have a fucking point then say it. Don't just go back to saying "I'm not going to talk to you" because that just kind of proves that you have nothing to go on with.
>>342982386
>Also legacy servers won't be as profitable because people won't be buying level boosts, cash shop mounts, or expensive xpacs with no content.
I think you mean it won't be profitable because not nearly as many people are going to play it as some here believe. Not to mention the fact that people can accept some bugs on a random private server, but on a Blizz sanctioned server you better believe people are going to be chewing their ass off for the most minor of bugs. I can understand why they're apprehensive about it.
>>342982106
>>Now everyone is forced to raid.
>No they aren't. I'm not raiding.
yeah mang, i'm sure you're having so much fun doing those extreme daily, or making ANOTHER transmog, oh yeah i forgot the LFG yeah that seems like a lot of fun aswell as farming those GREAT apexis, nha mate i'm only joking around, those amazing pet battle sounds like a lot of fun
>>342982551
I've played every expansion but Vanilla on retail, but when I started up on a private server after the WoD abortion it was the most fun I've ever had with the game.
Immersion trumps convenience.
>>342982551
Why do so many retards treat leveling like it's some kind of chore, it's literally the point of the game. Adventuring and exploring in the zones , leveling up to more dangerous challenges as dungeons and elite quests, ending with the 40 man raids.
>>342983087
Modern games generally cater to instant gratification and that is what children are used to, and thus, demand and expect.
>>342983087
This.
Levelling is most of WoW's content, but it was utterly fucking gutted so raidbabs can get their alts up.
>>342982551
Im kinda with you vanilla was cool and all but people really look at it with rose tinted glasses to an extreme degree.....there were lots of cool things but the raids weren't all that great except for some bosses here and there (ragnaros...razorgore was awesome etc...) the grinds were absolutely absurd and it was soooo slow paced...there were barely any kind of rotation for classes and certain classes/specs were 100% not viable...druids were there literally for innervates lol...and another thing is id rather have a new experience than play vanilla all over but thats just me.
>>342982673
>Assuming I'm lying
Alright fucker I'll spell out the problems with your game for you instead of summing up your post into a strawman argument, since you're clearly to dim to grasp the issues.
First of all, 3/4 of the playerbase decided it was shit and fucked off. If that's not proof enough for you then you're already in the delusional state. Secondly, you can now completely evade playing 90% of the fucking game for like 30 dollars or whatever. If you can pay to skip 85% of the game, then the marketing team of the fucking game offering that service realized it was boring repetitive shit and people didn't want to do it. Thirdly, if you've lurked /v/ for more than 5 minutes, you'd realize it's plagued with "casual bullshit", meaning it is being streamlined and dumbed down to reach a less intelligent audience, because the playerbase is falling so much. Finally, the game is so shit, that thousands of players have reached the gold cap, such that Blizzard has to implement market desaturation efforts, like billion gold mounts and bags with 2 more slots than the previous max.
Grinding for thousands of hours and grinding for thousands of hours again with a different class is fun to you? Really? Think very carefully about this you fucking triggered baby. I'm not even going to grace you with another well thought-out response, because you're too dumb to understand the brevity of skill, effort, or non-delusional fun included in a game you pay $15 dollars a month for. Fucking stupid bitch. Go back to /r/WoW you honkey ass pussy bitch nigga.
>>342983010
I'm not doing any dailies or raiding. I'm just doing shit like old raids for fun.inb4 but that's raiding xDDDD
You're also moving the goalpost kind of heavily right here.
>>342954662
Everything about me is unobtainable, my friend.
>>342982961
My point was fairly obvious. I was saying that I preferred playing the game and exploring the world and enjoying the company and community of other like-minded people to sitting in my garrison and clicking on things. If that wasn't obvious from the start then I'm just wasting my time debating this with you. To each their own, I guess.
>>342983087
These aren't the same people who played back in Beta and Early Vanilla back in 04' Anon. These are the Nu-Players, they don't are about questing, lore, story, or Adventuring; the only thing on their minds are speeding through leveling, buying all the BoA gear possible for their characters and Dungeon Grinding until Lv 100.
Yesterday I had a new player come in during a dungeon saying how cool SM and wished there was more story and lore in the dungeon.
>>342983269
>Raids
There's your problem. Raiding is fucking garbage.
>>342983087
Leveling is a chore more or less. When you were new it wasn't, but once that faded it did become a chore. Although some parts still were a chore.
> it's literally the point of the game.
Hardly. Dungeons, Raids and PvP are more or less the point. And grind.
>>342983235
>Doing fetch quests is most of WoW's content
????
>>342960643
I will never forgive myself for leaving him in a, probably, shitty transmog.
>>342982961
see
>>342983087
Endgame shit was the cherry on top. Deviating from this plan is what made the game such utter ass. It's undeniable.
>>342983278
first of all i'm not the guys you were talking to i'm not moving the goalpost, you're saying retarded shit "lel guys i'm doing old raids" oh yeah boi? have great fun oneshotting your way ot of a 15 "raid" to get some transmog?
>>342982927
>that fucking body
Jesus Christ, what have Blizzard done to Night Elves? This is disgusting.
>>342954662
The only unobtainable thing I have in WoW are Zul'Gurub goodies, vanilla PVP titles and a single bottle of Cuergo's Gold.
>>342983420
Nothing is stopping you doing that now. Shit, with cross servers it's easier than ever to party with friends from other servers or join groups from other servers (there's literally a tool for that as well).
>>342983487
RPGs were not made for you. Go play an action game or something bruv
>>342983275
>Thirdly, if you've lurked /v/ for more than 5 minutes, you'd realize it's plagued with "casual bullshit", meaning it is being streamlined and dumbed down to reach a less intelligent audience, because the playerbase is falling so much.
Your other points are fine but citing /v/ as a source just kills that argument. Casual on /v/ is just "anything I don't like" at this point. The main problem with the game these days is just how widepsread info about it is. Nothing is new and you'll already know each of the raid boss mechanics before it even comes out. Take away addons like DBM and data mining and I'm sure people would enjoy the game just as much as they did back in their youth.
![252e239c473f42002c3651ad3b3a18d3-650-80[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IzJjXso.jpg "252e239c473f42002c3651ad3b3a18d3-650-80[1]")
>>342983570
It's the 11 year old armor, not the model.
>>342983724
>that smug face on the lower right
Shame female NE are basically furious amazoness eating cock for breakfast.
Literally.
>>342983492
He's not even using transmog
>>342983628
I wanted to elaborate on that point more but I was mad and didn't want this shitty thread deleted. The point is they've pruned anything that isn't cookie cutter bullshit out. No point in having more than 3 action bars now. Classes don't even have that many skills, 20 max and that's a fucking stretch. Also you generate gold and items by clicking a button now. You generate stats by clicking a button. That is casual. That is bad design, regardless of whether /v/ is associated with it or not. Rushing through leveling killed this game because the leveling was the part that was the meat. Instead they have to pack max level with a bunch of shitty content and the engine is so bad that there is nothing besides dailies and shitty WPvP to do, besides the usual 30 min queues of course.
>>342983879
I do not know. Does it show transmog even when you havent logged in for like 1 1/2 years or so?
>>342983275
>First of all, 3/4 of the playerbase decided it was shit and fucked off.
Any time a player leaves the game it's because it's shit. Isn't it? Not that just, you know, they just get bored of it or don't have time for it or anything like that.
>Secondly, you can now completely evade playing 90% of the fucking game for like 30 dollars or whatever.
Leveling to 100 will take like 80 hours or so. How is that 90% of the game?
>Thirdly, if you've lurked /v/ for more than 5 minutes, you'd realize it's plagued with "casual bullshit", meaning it is being streamlined and dumbed down to reach a less intelligent audience, because the playerbase is falling so much.
You're a dumbfuck. It's never been casual unfriendly. Not to mention it fucking peaked at the time people were already whining about "casual features." And it has risen throughout implementation of such features.
> Finally, the game is so shit, that thousands of players have reached the gold cap, such that Blizzard has to implement market desaturation efforts, like billion gold mounts and bags with 2 more slots than the previous max.
News flash, idiot, old games tend to get inflated with gold unless there's money sinks. Money sinks are a fucking standard.
Every single item you've sold to a vendor since Vanilla, every single piece of currency you have looted HAS GENERATED THAT MUCH INTO THE ECONOMY. Imagine 12 million people looting 1 gold. That's 12 million gold into the fucking economy.
>>342983087
Leveling is supposed to be a segue into grouping with other players and playing the game socially, it's not supposed to be done on its own.
>>342983275
Also
>I'm not even going to grace you with another well thought-out response, because you're too dumb
You say this while you spew out insults and act insecure about your problems AND don't know that gold sinks are baseline in videogames.
You know "gigantique" bags? Riding? Repair? All those shit were GOLD SINKS.
>>342984179
Well yeah it's an MMO. Hence why the dungeon finder and everything that followed was what killed it.
>>342984079
This guy gets it. Thank you for using your brain instead of the neanderthals jumping on hate bandwagons
TRANSMOG TIER LIST:
>God Tier
A mix of items from varying sets or mostly/exclusively non-set items; the older and more unobtainable, the better.
>Great Tier
Unobtainable item sets or sets that exemplify absolute determination in obtaining (those 1% BoP drops, Scarlet Crusader set, etc)
>Decent Tier
An outfit you managed to hodgepodge together using items you bought off the auctionhouse or simple, iconic sets such as the Stormwind Guard series
>Bad Tier
"Black Mageweave", "Orange-and-Black Boobmail" and other overused, uncreative and easy-to-obtain transmogs.
>Shit Tier
No transmog.
>The Master Ruseman Tier
A transmog set to look like lower-quality gear than average, such as making your 100 look like ye olde 19 twink or making your gear look as close to Heirloom gear without it being Heirloom as possible.
>>342963394
>Barbonesa
10/10 name my man.
All the abilties were pruned so the super hard raids they made were actually doable without having to play ddr with your abilities, right?
RIGHT? That is the only logical explanation right?
>>342982551
>>342983087
Addendum: Quests weren't rare at all, you were expected to do multiple zones if one didn't cut it XP-wise Or god forbid maybe you'd have to do some higher level zones when they were orange for you, team up with a friend. Or you just did more of that dungeon with the phat loot right at your level.
>>342984076
Yes
>>342984323
>>Well yeah it's an MMO. Hence why the dungeon finder and everything that followed was what killed it.
I dunno, I think many people forget that in 2004, not every kid could afford the money
>for the game
>internet connection
>subscription fee
>AND have the time playing the game 24/7 if he had at leat semi responsible parents
With each year, WoW become accesible for a lot of younger people for the better or worse.
>>342984502
>iconic sets such as the Stormwind Guard series
They made an easier to obtain and better looking Guard set in WoD. It's actually funny seeing all these Stormwind guards running around.
>>342983572
>tfw those Bijous and armor pieces that you can't turn in anymore
>tfw Eye of Shadow sitting in the bank
>Nat Pagle's book gathering dust
Life is suffering.
>>342984079
>Any time a player leaves the game it's because it's shit
Yeah but 8 million people leaving is significant. Sorry. You're delusional.
>Level to 100 will take like 80 hours or so
And the bulk of the game is crammed into those 80 hours. At the level cap there's nothing to do but the same raids, the same quests, the same world pvp ... Is this not a problem for you? Delusional, again. Moving on
>You're a dumbfuck. It's never been casual unfriendly.
Did you even play before wrath? Or fucking heroic dungeons first Cata patch? Jesus Christ. Game is easy to get into, hard to master. Now it's just easy to get in to. There's no mastery involved. You learn the mechanics of the raid on easy mode, then do the same mechanics with bigger numbers on regular mode, then hard mode, than slightly harder mode, all just to accrue more numbers. The numbers are so numbery that they had to make the numbers smaller so that your numbers felt bigger than your actual numbers.
>Money sinks are a fucking standard
Show me one "old game" with money sinks that's still around minus WoW. They can't into economics. In Vanilla and TBC you spent your gold on shit. Money actually went into crafting, not just time. Delusional, moving on again.
>Every single item ... generated that much into economy
In Vanilla you had to buy repairs, food, water, mounts, attunement keys, equipment under some circumstances, and training.
Training is free and automatic, so there's two gold sinks you can kiss goodbye (flight paths and training.) Attunements don't exist, in fact you get a solid amount of gold for waiting in a queue and then slapping your dick on the keyboard while 24 other people suck their dicks and make their numbers bigger and the bosses numbers smaller.
Bottom line is the game is unimmersive, unimpressive horse shit. And the playerbase is literally as stupid as you.
>>342984502
nice toaster, man
>>342982106
>"yeah i only do old raids and pet battles but i can still pretend i play the game right? i'm just like you all guys xD"
>>342984619
>Quests weren't rare you just had to go to zones where they were orange because the quest areas for your level didn't have enough quests to get you there
????
>>342984719
I respect the people who use the old set a wee bit more than the current set, although the current set looks pretty nice. It's nothing creative and doesn't take a lot of effort to obtain really but it's still cozy. Any time I bump into another people in full-suit, I always stop to salute them. Fun stuff. Anyone who uses all their scraps and time to bother getting the full set at least deserves that from me.
>>342984469
>Asks a bunch of loaded questions
>Great argument, anon!
Confirmation bias. Your game is shit. This is no bandwagon. I played this game. It is not fun. It is incredibly boring a hollow shell of it's former glory, even with it's inconsistencies. It is a lifeless cashgrab. You'll believe me one day when you grow up. Fuck sakes.
>>342984749
>Yeah but 8 million people leaving is significant. Sorry. You're delusional.
Remember that subs were only going up until WoTLK and after they only went down except for temporary bumps when a new expansion launched. People aren't leaving because they're bored or the game is old, there's clearly something driving people away.
>>342984502
All i want is a human rogue in full defias leather, can i really be faulted for that?
Also wanted to make a mage like pic related. Bring back the nightmares for vanilla players.
>>342984747
I still have a Totem Relic on my Shaman that was Heroic. It's just a grey in my inventory that says Heroic. Looks pretty funny. I'm interested to see just how much shit I'll have due to how much I collected on that Shaman before I switched to a Paladin in MoP. So many items from the World Bosses, my AQ opening quest chain weapons and my D2 set for 3 different classes.
>>342984223
>Can only defend gold sinks
I had 3 other points anon. You're attacking me on the basis of my character. So I'll attack you on the basis of your argument. And I'll have you know that the gold sinks weren't mandatory for a significant portion of the playerbase like they are now. And they were much smaller. Because you actually had to manage your wealth, another thing completely removed by Blizzard Activision.
You're so utterly deep in the hole of buyers remorse. Get out. The game is shit.
>>342984709
Nigga I was 8 years old when I played the beta, learned a lot of god damn English because of it. The mainstream wasn't the current baby design philosophy where everything was made for the lowest common denominator. I mean this game was basically made for nerds & stay at home moms, don't get why it needed more casualisation.
>>342984765
If that's one thing I can commend WoW on, it's letting me play withintegrated graphics. I really need tosave up for a decent graphics card.
Aren't these graphics just the best?
>>342984971
Could it be the lack of challenging or inspired content? Could it be the repetitive nature of the game, long waits (both for new content and queues), boring job skills and constant pruning of abilities and anything that requires thought or rare occasions to be used?
Remember back when your action bars consisted of multiple spells of the same rank because you had to manage your mana instead of just stacking MP5, and later spirit, and later still intelligence?
>>342984956
Ok play a private server then. Problem solved.
>>342984893
>Ignoring that there are multiple zones with the same level range
>Being afraid of killing mobs a bit harder
>Being so socially awkward you can't team up with someone else in videogame
>Not running dungeons to get all the loot you could use or helping your friends out
Good thing you didn't respond to any of these and just did some >>>>>>>
>>342942023
nah it was grindy as shit
got 3 levels after doing scarlet monestary runs after doing an all nighter on my rogue
for only 3 fucking levels
>>342984971
Im waiting for the day when Blizz says:
>its over, we are closing all the servers, thanks for your time, here, everyone can play the game for free the last month as much as they want!
Yes, delusional, mainly because they wouldnt waste money on that and instead go the EA routeshutting down Battleforge and not even giving out he FUCKING SOURCE CODE made me so pissedbut hey, you can dream.
>>342985197
>The mainstream wasn't the current baby design philosophy where everything was made for the lowest common denominator.
That was my point, back then you mostly had those people who would put time and effort into this stuff, because it was their hobby.
>>342985332
You know there's problems with that which is why you're suggesting it. High-horsing faggot. Holy fuck, kill yourself. You are not better than me because you play a game that is bad.
>>342984749
>Yeah but 8 million people leaving is significant. Sorry. You're delusional.
They just left within one minute between each other, didn't they? WoW has peaked. It's age old game and it's impossible for them to get back up even if they reverted to the supposed "golden age" of Vanilla.
>At the level cap there's nothing to do but the same raids, the same quests, the same world pvp ... Is this not a problem for you? Delusional, again. Moving on
At the level cap you have everything released to do. If anything, you're delusional. By the time you reach level cap by regular leveling, you're not even 20% done with the quests even if you tried.
>Did you even play before wrath?
Yes.
>Jesus Christ. Game is easy to get into, hard to master.
No it wasn't "hard to master"
My fucking guild was 90% clickers and keyboardturners and we still got through Illidan.
Not to mention same guild is still up and running and even managed to get to HFC Mythic 12/13. Which, is actually hard as shit.
> then do the same mechanics with bigger numbers on regular mode, then hard mode, than slightly harder mode, all just to accrue more numbers.
Except there are added mechanics.
>Show me one "old game" with money sinks that's still around minus WoW.
Runescape. EverQuest. EVERY FUCKING MMO HAS MONEY SINKS. If a game has vendor or anything of the sort you can spend currency on (where it doesn't go to player) that's a MONEY SINK.
> In Vanilla and TBC you spent your gold on shit.
You spent money on money sinks like epic flying and gigantique bags.
>In Vanilla you had to buy repairs, food, water, mounts, attunement keys, equipment under some circumstances, and training.
Now you can buy 1k-2m mounts. Which do you think is a bigger money sink, 1k mount or 20g on training?
Most of those the things you listed aren't money sinks either.
>>342985026
If there's a transmogable bandana I think you can pretty much make a Defias Pillager set now.
>>342985560
>I HATE THIS GAME
>I AM GOING TO NON-STOP POST IN A THREAD ABOUT THE GAME I HATE
You are my favorite kind of shitposter.
>>342985560
I didn't say i was better than you lol...you are the one blowing it out of proportion i think they should put in vanilla servers as well...i probably wouldn't play it much but itd make a lot of people happy. So relax man jesus christ
>>342985609
http://www.wowhead.com/item=24585/outlanders-facewrap
http://www.wowhead.com/item=14263/bloodwoven-mask
Have fun.
>>342985718
People only hate what the game has become, a lot of people liked the older versions which is why people get so mad looking at how awful it is now.
>>342985889
>I don't like it anymore so I must shitpost about it and tell everyone who still likes it is basically fucking stupid and wrong because I don't like it
>>342985889
There are numerous private servers. Whining about what it's become won't bring what it was back.
Just wanna play enhance shammy.
>>342951881
Go play an Alliance character then you buffoon
>>342985575
>1% of the world population left this game, but for the wrong reasons, I say!
Yes, yes. I forgot doing 5 quests in 30 seconds at level cap, one shotting everything for an arbitrary achievement as fun and exciting.
Also forgot that quests gave out 250 gold every time you did one like they do now. You know, training was actually expensive. As were food and repairs. But you wouldn't know that because you didn't play before Wrath.
And, yep, BT was pretty easy after the video guides came out. Were you first? And you still haven't cleared mythic raids when there are step-by-step guides for everyone to see? That's pathetic, sorry.
Added mechanics in a raid doesn't make up for the fact that you're doing the same fucking thing with an extra step over and over to get another step. That's some serious conditioning right there, and you're falling for it hard.
The gold sinks in those games were for specific players, not most of the playerbase, dumbass.
And nobody had fucking gigantique bags and few had epic flying. That was the point. Everyone has everything in WoW now because it is handed to them, should they simply continue to pay and do the same thing over and over and over. You'll eventually succeed.
Nobody will ever be better than you. And that's why you retards like this shitty game. Your argument is fucking weak and underthought. But you don't see that, because you're insane.
>>342986008
Sorry friend, how about you tell me what you like about the modern game so much?
>>342981923
Nicely done, dwarven pal.
>>342985718
I hate faggots who try to argue the game didn't use to be good. That it got better. When it clearly hasn't, and most of the playerbase disagrees with them. They're fucking stupid, and these kinds of threads happen every day. I just want to play an MMO, like vanilla wow, where leveling was part of the fun and not some waste of time to do the same raids for 6 months.
I don't really care what WoW is at this point.
Even if it was better and more like OG WoW, it still wouldn't have any staying power for me.
I just play it at the start of each expansion and get to max level on one or two characters do some stuff and quit.
I consider it basically a single player RPG.
And I always get my moneys worth.
I think I'm just done with MMO's in general, and only play WoW out of nostalgia.
>>342986325
>>342981923
Dorf friends represent.
>>342986008
You faggots are the reason people are trying to convert you. It's like seeing a zombified version of your best friend. I want to put it out of it's misery, but you're his non-zombified girlfriend insisting that he still smells good. When he clearly has shit all over his britches.
Literally just started the other day I've never played wow before and figured I'd might as well give it a try since I'm sick of ffxiv. Made a draenei shaman so far I'm not hating it.
>>342986228
>Also forgot that quests gave out 250 gold every time you did one like they do now.
Most of the quests give ~20G at max level, something which has been pretty standard since WotLK. TBC had 10g+ quests at max level.
>There are guides so it's easy
And because even the best use addons with the bosses they're probably shit as well :^)
I'd like to see you go and do it just because a fucking guide exists.
>Added mechanics in a raid doesn't make up for the fact that you're doing the same fucking thing with an extra step over and over to get another step.
Nice goalposting shifting since you claimed it's just bigger numbers and nothing else. Now you're just downplaying it.
>The gold sinks in those games were for specific players, not most of the playerbase, dumbass.
Buying from a vendor or doing shit that takes gold away from economy is for "specific players" only? Please. Stop being in such denial and just accept you were dumb about money sinks.
>And nobody had fucking gigantique bags and few had epic flying.
Only if you were really bad at it you wouldn't make money for at least epic flying.
>Everyone has everything in WoW now because it is handed to them, should they simply continue to pay and do the same thing over and over and over.
Hey look, just like before.
>Nobody will ever be better than you.
Hahahahaha, you honestly think that there is and hasn't always been a bunch of bad players and bunch of good players?
>Your argument is fucking weak and underthought. But you don't see that, because you're insane.
T. person who just called me insane because that somehow is proof how bad my argument is. Let's not forget the other times you just called me names without actual arguments.
>>342986403
What server?
>>342986732
>Anona tries a non-food analogy
>It's still bad
Stop the analogies plz
What you're insisting here is nothing but "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!!!!!"
>>342960643
New /troll/ here.
>>342986515
>>342986325
>>342981923
>>342960643
I don't play anymore but here's what my old Dwarf shammy used to wear.
I used to be crazy fucking creative in roleplay fights with him. Was fun as hell.
>>342987306
Looking good boyo. Maybe try and find a chest piece that doesn't look very blatantly from vanilla.
>>342987425
forgot your picture, bud
>>342987425
>>342987738
Motherfucker I forgot the fucking set.
>>342987425
amazing transmog
>>342987780
CLASSIC 10/10 DORF
>>342987096
>Trying to be funny makes a weak argument
The game sucks. Shut up. God damn. The majority of the playerbase agrees with me. What do you like so much about the game?
>>342987780
That's a pretty solid dorf there.
>>342987425
You are sure you didn't play rogue?
>>342988082
>It sucks!!!!
>SHUT UP!!!
>Don't you dare like it!!!!
>P-people agree with me!!!
>>342988226
You going to get to the smug anime faces yet? What do you like about the game you insecure faggot? Can you not even give me a simple list about why it's worth your money?
Is it because it's not?
>>342988082
>still here bitching about a game he doesn't even play anymore
>I AM NOT ALONE! THIS GAME SUCKS! STOP PLAYING! S-STOP HAVING FUN!
I'm just glad booty blistered people like you bump this thread.
>>342979973
Stv was fine because there was no massive amounts of brown tan and orc unga bunga music
>>342988431
>Misrepresenting my post without answering the question, but somehow implies it's still fun
If you are having fun but can't say why then you're remorseful for wasting you or your parents money, I'm afraid.
>>342988381
So far the "why it's bad" list is "I hate it so you should hate it as well". Why do I need to make points when the people who claim it's shit can't make any at all?
>>342988531
I am not that anon you deluded autist. I have had to watch you sperg over the latter half of this thread with barely anything substantial besides, "HOW COULD YOU LIKE IT? HOW COULD YOU LIKE IT?"
Truthfully I like a lot of things. I like casual PVP. I like casual PVE. I love going back to solo old raids. I enjoy the pointless, retarded grind for more transmogs. I enjoy buddying up with friends to go through raids I can't solo. I even do a little roleplaying and pet battling.
Now proceed to break down each one like the sperg you are.
>>342988578
>>342984749
Also, your misguided opinions aren't exactly a point. There's clearly a problem with the game, which is why people resub for a month and leave. Or are you going to argue with official player representations (which Blizzard MYSTERIOUSLY no longer shares, because sharing it was to boast?)
>>342988760
So you like wasting your time on mindless drivel?
I'll grant that RP is pretty good. But that doesn't make up for the massive amount of pathetically easy content sparsed between slightly harder content that you need to wait months for.
>>342988940
Thanks for proving my point again autismo. VIDEO GAMES are mindless drivel yet here you are acting like some enlightened faggot looking down at inferiors.
>>342988819
>There's clearly a problem with the game, which is why people resub for a month and leave.
Yeah, and that's content drought. They even admitted themselves that pumping out quick expansions isn't going to work.
Most of my likes are the same as >>342988760. I play for a month and leave for next patch since I haven't been into serious raiding since wotlk.
Subscriber numbers haven't ever been properly accurate as chinks buy literal game time which only expires when they have spent it whole.
>>342988940
>So you like wasting your time on mindless drivel?
Are you seriously going to act like such a stupid fucking reductionist? MMOs at their core are mindless drivel. Even and especially back during your beloved golden age.
>>342989058
>Games that require thought or time management don't exist
They actually do exist and don't require a yearly payment of $40 and a monthly payment of $15.
>Anyone who doesn't like my game in it's current form has autism
Way to parrot stuff you've read online before. Intelligent as fuck.
>>342989218
>They actually do exist and don't require a yearly payment of $40 and a monthly payment of $15.
When you make my money you can tell me how to spend it. That you are so strung up over $15 a month really says more about you than you think.
>Way to parrot stuff you've read online before. Intelligent as fuck.
I'm calling you an autist because you are still screaming like a child over a game that you don't even play at people who still play it. We get it, you hate WoW for what it's become. Let it fucking go.
>>342977745
>TEN gold
>TEN
>GOLD
>TEN GOLD
WOW
SO NOW I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS FUCKING FAGGOT GARRISON SHIT BUT THIS TIME I CAN'T EVEN MAKE ENOUGH MONEY FOR A WOW TOKEN EVERY MONTH
JESUS CHRIST
>>342989218
>Way to parrot stuff you've read online before.
t. person who does just that.
>>342987780
that's fucking hot
What's become of leveling in modern WoW is a fucking tragedy. People like to complain that leveling alts is a chore, and it is, but not because it takes a long time. In fact, leveling is faster than it's ever been, and that's the main reason it's awful.
Even when you are starting fresh without any heirlooms, you can't finish a zone's questline without ending up massively outleveling the zone. With heirlooms, the problem is worse but at least you had a say in it. By equipping the heirlooms you said "I've done this before. Just let me fuck shit up and be done with it." But the content has been so massively nerfed over the years, even Joe Schmoe who just started a new account is basically God from the word go. Leveling so fast kills any questing flow the game might have had, and on top of that the challenge and danger are nonexistent. Removing heirlooms won't fix it, and neither would removing LFD as it's more of a symptom than the actual problem.
Leveling needs to feel like a journey and not a mindless chore. The devs recently acknowledged this in a forum post, but it boggles my mind that it's been shit for years and it keeps getting worse without anything at all being done to fix it. I can't even imagine what a new player would feel starting WoW from level 1 today. I guess that's why they are giving away that 100 level boost.
Thanks for reading my blog.
>>342942023
>it wasn't a grindy peice of shit where you had to sit and camp spawns for exp and items
Okay you and I played to completely seperate Vanillas then because I can't remember a time I wasn't grinding in Vanilla and BC
>>342989581
When me and a few friends decided to start new characters, we explicitly decided to do it through zones and with no heirlooms except for those that didn't grant EXP boosting.
It was a good timeUntil we hit outland.
>>342989581
Nobody would enjoy spending the original 100 hours on 1-60 alone. Then at least another 200 for the 60-100.
>>342979272
>"I want a piano of moves I will only use twice per expansion."
Fuck off
>>342989581
>I can't even imagine what a new player would feel starting WoW from level 1 today. I guess that's why they are giving away that 100 level boost.
One of my co-workers started about a year ago for the first time and he didn't have any problems with it. I just don't think he knew how it was before and just enjoyed what he got.
>>342989581
To add, I've thought about going back to older MMOs I quit like Vindictus but when I realise that leveling is fucking slow and I'm like 50+ levels behind it's just a nightmare.
>>342989398
>screen shot with placeholder info
OK stupid, turn off the computer and go back to school.
>>342989770
>"but I NEEDED that one move I used maybe once or twice a week that I can still get through glyphs/talents"
I'm going to be called a casual but I'm actually very grateful to see a lot of useless abilities either shaved off or incorporated into other ones.
Some people love the crazy glossary of spells in MMOS, WoW is moving away from that. For those that do, there's always FF.
>>342989524
>t.
Fuck you. Parrot. God damn baby.
>>342989858
>replying to the wrong post
ok faggot, stop calling people children and write "FUNCTIONAL RETARD" on your forehead with red sharpie
>>342952959
>world pvp almost nonexistent
You and I have been playing two different WoDs then.
By what you've said so far I think the problem is your server not the game.
Although WoD is pretty bad it's not THAT bad.
>>342977925
What's wrong with Kronos? Besides the epic DDOS measurements making 70ms ping baseline for someone who lives literally 20km away from the server
>>342989581
>I'm an idiot who refusers to read quests ot compelete zones
>I just want an excuse to bitch cause i choose to rush through everything.
>>342990012
>better insult him, that will prove me right!!
>>342990101
WoD is bad but it's not Cataclysm bad.
World PVP was pretty damn existent at launch if only because everyone was rushing to level 100. I actually have fond memories of getting to PVP skirmishes and using their bones in the garrison PVP building. Getting the Lord of War title trumps a lot of my vanilla memories as far as WoW experiences go. I know it's an unpopular opinion but I feel that WoW has actually improved since I played it so long ago. It's had A LOT of low points and I haven't stayed subscribed during its entirety, even taking longer than a year breaks with it, but I still go back to enjoy it every once in awhile. Can't say that about a lot of other games.
>>342990101
I play on tich and malganis.
>>342988191
>>342987796
Here's my old fast talking foul mouthed Gnome Rogue.
He acted as a utility rogue for some edgy mafia guild. He was originally supposed to be a joke character that I wouldn't mind getting fucked up, but he actually ended up one of the most complex I've ever RP'd.
>>342989937
So glad I'm not alone.
>>342990253
You're pretty bad at reading yourself, friend
>>342990074
>dumbass gets upset abuot 10 GOLD
>doesn't realize its an old placeholder
Don't get upset for being called out. Realize your mistake and move on.
So warlocks are looking good for Legion? Was thinking of coming back a month before launch and leveling one up. Is their legendary thing cool?
Come start a new character with me.
>>342989386
huh so I guess every game should charge 15/mo then you dumb fuck. You get the privelege to play, cant even level up a character without paying redoing old content, thats cancer
>>342990536
How do you get screenshots from wowhead like that?
Nice Transmog by the way.
>>342990747
I've been playing the Legion beta and it's actually pretty jarring getting used to the ability shrink.
I played Ret in Legion and it had the most painfully simple rotation imaginable. Now that rotation has been extended to many of the other classes, it's insane. Hell, Ret is actually slightly more demanding than it used to be.
>>342944609
>cc is pretty much gone
and that is a good thing why? i hope this is a bait post.
also, pvp is the biggest shit ever right now in the beta. you deal ZERO damage 90% of the time but randomly one-shot people with one ability. the game needs big dick crits to get me back.
>>342990791
battle.net/wow/game/artifacts/
>>342990867
>huh so I guess every game should charge 15/mo then you dumb fuck.
What does that have to do with his point?
>cant even level up a character without paying redoing old content
And what the fuck are you saying?
>>342990867
Again autismo, if you earn my money you can tell me how to spend it. I have in no way implied every game should charge monthly though amusingly I have played WoW long enough that I can pay it off in in-game currency for the next year.
And you're still here complaining about a game you don't even play.
>>342977925
>toxic
>>342990751
>waaah I can't finish a zone cause I out leveled it!
>waaah I level too fast!
yeah read it fine. Idiots just rush and then complain. Nww blogger-chan wants blizz to pander to their ideals. Same dumb shit as usual.
>>342990871
I just make it in
http://legion.wowhead.com/dressing-room#mk0c0zH8Md0cM9m8kNf808k0t808RpZ808k0y87cdVx87cR4d808o1X808kzF808R5m808b41808b41808
then take screen shots with ctrl + printscreen and edit it together in paint.
>>342977925
It's ironic that someone on /v/ is saying something has a shitty community.
>>342990309
Too stupid to even get the point, holy fuck.
>>342990486
I took the liberty of finding the faction balance on those two realms and it's no fucking wonder WPvP can't happen on your server.
It's all out of whack, especially Mal'ganis
I mean Tichondrius maybe but still.
>have hand tremors that make it impossible to play keyboard+mouse games
>had to learn how to use a mouse with my left hand but my right hand still prevents me from using keyboard at the same time
>stuck with using a gamepad
I wanna go back so bad but I have worthless fucking hands FUCK EVERYTHING
>>342991273
>let's insult more so I can really show how strong my argument is!
>>342991410
I have RSI on both hands and KBM is painful at times, I still do it for some fucking reason.
>>342991410
I have hand tremors so severe that they put me on beta blockers just to slow my heart beat enough that I can do basic things and I play mouse+keyboard games. Quite skillfully too.
You have no fucking excuse.
>>342952959
>"everyone sits in capitals/dungeons till 90"
>recently leveling through Zangarmarsh was one of the worst experience I've had in WoW to date simply because of the amount of people around and having to wait for 15 minute spawn timers
>>342990348
>Cataclysm bad
I never understood the hate for Cata. Patches 4.1 and 4.3 may have been a bit lackluster but the launch was phenomenal and I have so many good memories from WPvP on Mount Hyjal and the Firelands.
>>342991410
I used to raid in Wrath as a holy pally using a controller. Not because I had a condition, but because it was a pretty fun and interesting experiance. it sort of worked like this ABXY was 1234 on my keyboard, hold LT and it ABXY becomes 5678 and so on. I'm sure you can imagine how the rest of the controller works. DPAD left and right would cycle through party/raid and UP and DOWN would instantly select the main and off tank respectively. It actually works a LOT better than you might imagine. I can't remember the program I used, but I bet a steam controller would work even better if you could stand using one of those.
First time my guild ever cleared Trial Of The Crusader 25 was with me using a controller and coming in 2nd place with healing done and 1st with only 3% over healing.
>>342980903
Great job.
>>342991637
>>342991602
When I try to grip a mouse with my right hand it just jumps around I can't even keep the mouse on the desk. Anything I do to try and keep it steady just makes it even worse. Shit makes it impossible to play anything I don't know how you did it
>>342976130
>>342974732
Pre patch doesn't kill the ring quest. Legion release does. Pre patch only kills it if you haven't picked up the quest at all yet.
It's still possible to complete even if your on ab stones (and you have a decked out shipyard.) 8 resets is about the minimum required.
>>342979935
>Vanilla mage was just frostbolt
>BC warlock was just shadowbolt
>>342960643I'm so sorry for what I did to you at Mt. Rugged
>>342992231
Until you had gear to support fire spec in TBC you would be Arcane/Frost mage doing nothing but Frostbolt as well.
Although you forget that Vanilla mage was Fireball after immunities were done with.
>>342979935
>with three fingers!
Beats Vanilla and BC when it was just one
>>342992501
While this is true, stop trying to pretend half of vanilla wasn't running through MC for the 100th time to constantly gear up new players. If you weren't in a hardcore progression guild that actually got past AQ that is.
Played since start, stopped after WotlK end.
sometimes i think about coming back.
Should i? or would i regret it?
i miss my reputation-farmed mounts
>>342992792
Hey, I'm agreeing with you here. Vanilla progression was shit.
>>342992795
WoD is only a bad expansion if played from beginning to end because all of the new features got tedious after 3 months
For someone coming in during the final few months it will probably be a wild ride.
I say you should re-sub.
>>342992932Your a cool guy.
>>342993068
>your
>>342943425
>They nerfed the shit out of order hall rewards so they're basically not mandatory
Except for the fact that Order Halls are necessary to get shit for your artifact weapon.
>>342953740
Oh yeah, I forgot all about the selfie camera.
And we did get new models for a decade.
kek
>>342993913
>playing the expansion is necessary to play the expansion
>>342994105
>Facebook follower missions
>playing the expansion
Ive never played WoW ever
Would it be a bad time to start? How many expansions would I need to buy?
>>342994418
>How many expansions would I need to buy?
Currently?
Zero.
Since we're nearing the end of the expac Blizz thought it wouldn't make sense to make new players buy an expansion pack that was going to be out of date in 2 months
But you will have to buy Legion in the near future.
>>342994418
Don't start playing now.
Play something like TERA or Wildstar or The Secret World or Runescape or Vindictus or Project Gorgon or Tree of Savior or Guild Wars or SW:TOR or pretty much any MMO because they're all better than WoW currently.
>>342994418
Just Legion lad, when it's out. All the others are now included when you get the game.
You can play for free until level 20 so just give it a go, don't listen to whiny people, decide for yourself.
>>342990536
This one was a dickish holy/shadow priest with a heart of gold.
Never got the chance to RP with him much. He was mostly a heal bot for a massive 40-man traveling band.
>>342994418
Play on a private server like Kronos. If you like that, then play it instead of retail.
Garrosh did nothing wrong.
>>342994702
subscription number strongly contradict that
>>342994850
What subscription numbers? Blizzard stopped reporting them :^)
>>342994712
Kronosfags are not welcome here.
>>342994850
Millions of flies eat shit, it must be great :^)
>subscription number
What numbers? They're hidden.
>>342994986
I'm only on it cause it's the biggest private server right now.
>>342994418
Long time WoW addict here. Just don't start. People call it Warcrack for a reason.
How are rogues looking in Legion?
From a PVE standpoint, specifically.
>>342995024
>Millions of flies eat shit, it must be great
false equivalent
>>342995113
Draenei are the most UNF race. Whenever I see one standing next to a human, I like how they're so much taller. I don't even have a thing for tall people. Dem horns, tails, hooves, and futa horsecocks. I love draenei.
>>342994850
Subscription numbers have dropped more than ever, what does that tell you?
The 6 million+ who've stopped playing contradict it being a good game.
>>342995519
WWII jokes funny.
>>342995296
>subscription number strongly contradict that
Ad populum.
>>342995654
>WWII jokes
Six million people have unsubscribed from WoW since Cata was released.
>>342994418
Do this
>>342994703
Buying the base game will get you every expansion up to and including WoD. Try it out on the trial version to get a taste.Try to not be influenced by either side of the "WoW is/is not shit" argument. Leveling my first character in WoW is one of my fondest video game memories.
Max level is a completely different game from leveling though.
>>342995296
>he thinks typing that is a get out of jail free card when someone uses an analogy in an argument.
>>342994418
You don't have to buy anything, just play on Kronos.
>>342996449
give him a break, it's a veneer you throw on any argument too complicated to address. i love these philo101 retards that throw out the supposed laws of logic and argumentation like they're worth a shit without a corresponding argument to substantiate the negation
>>342965097
>>342970036
>>342981550
You get to live.
>>342979873
>>342980903
>>342981550
>>342982504
You all die.
>>342981923
>>342987306
>>342986515
>>342987780
>>342990536
You guys are great.
>>342992391I will never forget what you did. You are spared by your great transmog.
>>342998285
>You are spared by your great transmog
Thank you
How come >>342981550 both lives and dies? Is she is some sort of limbo?
