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You know the drill, BLACKED box general. Be wary of unmarked spoilers.
Deltaworst Zero.
I've hit a point where I don't know where to go in the timeline, the only places I can go are places where I need to know something that I don't know yet, like the passwords or Q's name. And that roll all 1's on the dice thing. Anyone know if I'm missing something?
>>342921439
If you're stuck on the dice rolls, just keep rolling the dice.
>tfw just finished the game
It lived up to the hype,fucked you guys i liked it
>Junpei beating up Carlos for trying to rape Akane
>the AB game
>The whole VLR route
>Delta being there the whole time
>Sigma and Diana giving birth to Phi and Delta
>no more suffering in the happy end
>It did reuse the plot point of creating the decision game to create Phi and Delta from 999 but i kind of liked that
I still have a question though...Why the hell did Delta shoot Gab at the end of the game? What was the point?
>>342921439
Keep rolling
>>342921185
Just finished the pantry.Who killed Junpei?
Is there an actual correct answer that I'm supposed to find later? Do I just put in whatever for the moment and come back later with a correct answer?
The textures in the 3DS version were absolute fucking garbage. It made solving the cards puzzle in the REC room way harder than it should have been.
>>342921531
BecauseDelta is a cunt.
>>342921494
>>342921532
Well then, I assumed it was actually a 0.something chance to get the 1's but I'll keep rolling then. I thought there would be some way to influence the dice later
>>342921543
You will find out the answer way later on, but you don't go back to use it. For now,you can only guess either Akane or Carlos
>>342921531
>Why the hell did Delta shoot Gab at the end of the game? What was the point?
See >>342921373
>>342921543
You have no way of knowing, so you can't answer with the 'right' answer.
You will find out though, but it's pretty big spoilers if you find out early.
>>342921719
>>342921630Maybe it was a "fuck you, you can't SHIFT with gab because he's fucking dead so don't worry about it" kind of thing?
I'm also stuck in progression.
I know toshoot Delta because spoilers but I haven't encountered him in-game beyond the D-END2 so would it still work if I input his name? I'd be confused as to why it would even.
Also, I don't know the password forQ-Team's Force Quit Box as the code that Zero gave Q didn't work as I assume it was ONLY for his helmet, and I don't know the password for theDoor of Truth. I expect the few other locked areas will become open after I finish these maybe.
I have a major spoiler-filled question:What the fuck happened to Junpei's jacket?
>>342921659Once you roll all 1s, Akane will begin to infodump on why it happened.
>>342921876The H in SHIFT stands for Human, so I don't think Gab is able to SHIFT.
>>342921895
The game makes it very clear when you know the correct answers for those. If you don't know them, it means you still have other stuff to do.
>>342921930
I can't tell you anymore with out it being spoilers, so please look forward to the 4th game.:^)
>>342921935Obviously Kyle is in Gab, so he could SHIFT
>>342922023
Okay then. I'm assuming I'll run into different password codes then at some point in time. Unless the password for theDoor of Truth is the babies' birthdaysthen I don't remember it. And I have no clue what theQ-Team's FCBcode would be.
Could you also answer my first question? Maybe I'm being stubborn as I don't understand how it would work even though I could try it within a couple of minutes and find out for myself but still.
>>342922321Yes, you can shoot Delta. But that's a completely unnecessary bonus scene. It won't help you progress.
Are ,we the player, Delta's "Mind Hack"?
>>342922321You're actually correct about the Door to Truth.
What cards do I use in the transporter room for the 3 birds, flower, and person puzzle and in what order?
I'm not doing any BS alien math so just tell me the answer.
what should i do with this new password to input in the chair at the library? j-05-03
*raises paw*
Why were there only 3 radical-6 syringes in the biolab, if team Q had 4 members?
Why did no one point out that there was a missing portrait in the secret room in ward Q?
How did Delta know what was going to happen in advance if he had no SHIFT powers?
>>342922491Alientechnology:^)
>>342922564
also,it's not working. so i need to round it down but how.
>>342922472
Well alright. Does it at least explain why I'm able to do so, consideringQ doesn't know who/what Delta is or if he's even in that room, as far as the player knows?
>>342922560
Oh boy. Guess I gotta go through that one path again and write down thedang-ol' birthday. Thanks.
>>342922564Shift everything down by 7 based on the figurine clues. Think about what it means to shift down though.
>>342922672
It'll all make sense eventually.
>>342921185
All these threads have sparked my interest, so I'll go ahead and ask: are the previous games worth playing or should I just start with this one?
Please look forward to it.
>>342922578
Because fuck you that's why
>>342922562____________________GIT GUD ASSHOLE________________
IN that order.
>>342922847
Absolutely play the previous games first.
>>342922847
>should I start with the third game in a trilogy?
Lurk the fuck more, newfag.
Don't know what to do now. I've doneForce Quit C and D. I just assumed Vive Hodie was the correct password for the box after hearing it, and was validated. But I don't know the password for Force Quit Q. For uncleared fragments, I think it's only that and 3-Way-Standoff which has two paths I haven't seen yet, though I could be missing something.
>>342921930
Probably hard to model so they just got rid of it
>>342922847
It's not a matter of whether to start with this one or not. You play the previous games regardless.
They're still good though so no worries.
Wait, isPayoff 2the true ending? What a load of horseshit. Looks like I was stupid for expecting anything decent from Uchi.
>>342922861
God damnit Uchi
>>342922847
Yes they definitely are. They're way better than ZTD, easily.
>>342922956
Check the flow chart for any ! you can jump to.
>>342922721I 100%'d the game and I don't think I ever figured these out. I remember seeing the "shift three things by 7" dolls, and I had the hint cards but I don't think I used them. What were they for again?
>>342922872
Give me the answer jackass
>>342923013
Yes.
>>342922861Fucking hell
The lack of 999 characters besides Junpei and Akane is what upsets me the most
>>342922578
First Question:Q didn't put his hand on the pricker that did/did not infect you with radical 6
Second Question:I don't know what you mean by this question, do you mean the room that "connects" the wards?
Third Question:He reads the minds of SHIFTers. Therefore he knows what happens in other timelines despite not SHIFTing
>>342922578
For the first one, probably becauseQ is a robot
>>342923013
What, you don't enjoy sequel bait? :^)
How the fuck do i connect the numbers in the control room, following the poster isnt helping.
>>342923165
No1curr. Only 999 fags gave a shit.
The fact of no Kyle, no Santa, and no Left really kills the ending.
Which game ending did you like more?
I prefer VLR
>>342923178
More like I didn't enjoy the mother of all deus ex machinas, nor the fact that they broke the fourth wall in the second game but didn't follow up on it.
>>342923104
I can't find any. Last thing I did wasC-Team Ending 1,where should I be looking?
>>342923112It was for the codex you needed to solve which had 4 letters as a password. The given clue was HGFY or something like that and the figurines. You're supposed to shift them down accordingly to the figurine clues to get MIND
Reminder that the 3DS DRM thing is just a meme.
>>342923354
Did youexecute all the teams with the voting game? On the side of the the Flow chart, there should be four circles. Are they all lit up?
is the one where they shift out of the place and talk to delta the last scene or are is there other hidden ones?
>>342923341
What? There were no deus ex machinas.(You)'re watching the events from Delta's perspective.
>>342922901
>>342922981
>>342923034
Alright, thanks. I have a lot of spare time at work, so I'll get started on them.
>>342922913
I've only seen the last movie in the Lord of the Rings trilogy, how does that make you feel?
>>342923527
How the fuck isALIEN TELERPORTER MACHINE, LOL I DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN SHITnot a deus ex machina?
>>342923171
>>342922578
The 2nd question, they meanwhy didn't Delta have a portrait on the wall and why did no-one notice?
I think it can easily be cleared up though byassuming it wasn't stated that every participant would be shown there, and they didn't know the portraits HAD to show every participant.
>>342923505
That's it. Such a letdown
Epilogue is in files however
>>342923171
>>I don't know what you mean by this question, do you mean the room that "connects" the wards?
I mean the room with the three way stand-off. The one that had caricatures of everyone as dolls.
>>He reads the minds of SHIFTers. Therefore he knows what happens in other timelines despite not SHIFTing
No one except the Phi, Sigma and possibly Akane from the VLR timeline Shifted back to a point before the Decision game, though. How comes he knows about what happens in the other timelines?
>phi is actuallyred head
quick, someone postthat magazine edit with her hair colored orange like her eyebrows!
What if the let down of an ending is in fact the "anti piracy" they were talking about.
Jokes aside I'm seeing a lot of people saying the ending is a bit naff which bums me out.
Would you listen to Phi's album?
>>342923527still, the fact he wasnt mentioned even in he slightest is retarded, youd think they would have at least asked why he wasnt included in the decision game etc etc
I just realized why there's the Roman numeral for 4 where 6 should be in the logo.Delta is the true Participant 4
Akane is Participant 6 and Zero in the first game
Delta is Zero
>>342923717>How comes he knows about what happens in the other timelines?
Sounds like a question that can only be answered by Uchi himself really.
>>342923502
They weren't,even though I did every vote.Thanks.
>>342923282
Where do you think we are?
Ok this fucking Rec Room is getting to my nerves. I have the Wooden Box/Fire Place coin, the Heart Puzzle coin, The Roulette coin and the Cards/Dice coin. Which am I missing? It has to do with the chess box, right? How do I interact with the chess box?
People compare this room to the Transporter Room, but the hieroglyphs were much more fun to decypher.
>>342923780
Also, do NOT go to 4chan. (I am very sad)
>>342923947
How the hell did you pass all the hard puzzles and get stuck on the fucking chess box.
>>342924000
Because I click it and nothing happens, that's how.
>>342923527
>(You)'re watching the events from Delta's perspective.Then you would have known what Carlos planned when he cucked Junpei, as Delta clearly stated he knew all along.
>>342923717
So you're asking aboutHow he knows that humanity will go extinct due to one fanatic?
Ask Uchi :^)
>>342923357Didn't you shift those with the dolls that were on the desk though? What were the dolls behind the reinforced glass for?
>>34292311727951. Use the machine to translate it to 4 card ayylmao runes. The symbols on the dial on the left are just digits. Wind = 0, Sun = 1, Moon = 2, etc.
>>342923816
what logo do you speak of, all the ones im looking of have 4 properly
>>342922562
I don't remember the solution, but this is the hard part of the room. You should easily be able to solve it yourself with this info.Moons are fucking hard, don't judge me.
>>342923235
Stop tunnel visioning and continue with the room. It'll make sense later.
Fuck you, Uchi.
>>342924000
>>342924076
AAAAH, of course. I had to use the Fire Hook a second time. No wonder it didn't leave the inventory.
>>342923807He was mentioned several times actually. And Delta was a part of the decision game, under the guise of Q. No one from the other teams knew Sean was participating. Remember how Sigma didn't recognize him when he found Sean in the pod
>>342923175But he still injects it into himself. Did no one stop to think "oh shit, we may have infected the cripple with this highly contagious virus with 10 minutes incubation time"?
>>342924076
Find a wooden hammer, use hammer to hit part of chessboard with a c on it. Solve ensuing puzzle.
>>342924147In the safe you blow up with the grenade launcher, you get a note with a code for the chair. Inside the safe are three figurines indicating to shift down by 7. You're supposed to shift the code down by 7. This gets you a diagram for combining the different key parts that were really easy to figure out by yourself
>>342923807Actually, he's mentioned quite a lot. You just don't realise that it's not Sean they're talking about.Replaying the game with English VAs this time, so I'm picking up on a lot of those subtle hints.
I think I'm nearing the end of the game. Need to know what to do to continue.Haven't done Q's force quit box, have no idea how. Have done the other two. Only have two open questions marks on my map. One is where Eric, Mila, Q are all pointing guns at each other. The other is me supposed to put in Zero's name...? I have no clue? I tried Brother... that didn't work. Am I supposed to be able to reason that out?
so many people seem to be having trouble because they don't realize they actually have to play through the voting multiple times and see all the results scenes. Just so everyone knows, do the following consecutively, and be sure to watch the scene detailing the aftermath:
1st (Team C Executed):
Play Team Q and vote for Team C
Play Team D and vote for Team C
2nd (Team Q Executed):
Play Team C and vote for Team Q
Play Team D and vote for Team Q
3rd (Team D Executed):
Play Team C and vote for Team D
Play Team Q and vote for Team D
4th (No One Executed):
Play Team C and vote for Team Q
Play Team Q and vote for Team D
Play Team D and vote for Team C
>>342923780
I liked it. It's wraps up more stuff than people are letting on.
>>342924279
I told you already here >>342923171
Although I made a type,Delta/Q/Zero did not touch the thing that injected you with FBR, a fourth needle was not needed.
I've done damn near everything, I have the entire flowchart filled except for theboxes. I don't remember the codes for any of them. Help a nigga out?
>>342924445At the top left of your flowchart. Do you have all of three colored skulls lit up?
>>342923673>I think it can easily be cleared up though by assuming it wasn't stated that every participant would be shown there, and they didn't know the portraits HAD to show every participant.
That's bullshit. A single passing comment of "wait, didn't they forget someone" would have been way more organic and would have actually hinted at the existence of a 10th member so it wouldn't come across as such a big asspull. They knew he was a participant. Fuck, he was the leader of their team, why didn't they find it suspicious?
Also, did they ever clarify what rule was broken that made Sean go apeshit in that other timeline?
>>342924283
Yeah, got it and holy shit, THIS is where they explain the order of the SPIN?
>>342924568
Yeah. I'm near the end of the game. Have all endings but two.
>>342924557
Jump back to the scenes where they are told. If you haven't seen those scenes, keep playing.
>>342924573
TheRule Violation was the attempt at using unverified, alternate history X-Passes to escape, which triggered a RULEBREAKING sequence wherein the participants had unwarranted info, blah blah blah, cheating.
>>342924647
Eh, it's easier than that. Got stuff to do with how chess pieces move and all that. Simple puzzle if you know what you're doing
>>342924152
It's where the 6 should be, at the bottom, and it's in the very logo.
>>342924660
I don't remember where they are.
I've completed every other scene in the game. When I open the flowchart, the only scenes that are locked are the boxes, and I have completed all the others. ALL OF THEM. So please help a guy out.
>>342924557
Just fail the input to get the clue if you should know it already
>>342924496
Would you say to do them right away? I was planning of doing them once I finished up with these fragments I have currently.
How was I SUPPOSED to figure out the Roulette table? I just put in the first thing I could think of and it worked. Characters even commented that it was a guess.
>>342924201
HOW am I supposed to solve it though? Do I multiply? Add? I don't get it.
>>342924874
There are scenes that can only be accessed through the fragment screens. Have you done those? Because if you don't know the password for the Q force quit box, then you obviously have not seen the scene where it's told.
I got to the point where eric asks me who killed mira, but i don't know who did it. Is it a spoiler?
>>342924928
Just go back and view the voting results scenes now, because if you forget you'll find yourself wondering why there's no new fragments/paths to view and be the umpteenth person on here complaining about not knowing how to progress.
>>342924928
Curious as well because I went route 4 (CQD all survive) on my first run through and I'm worried that might have buggered something up. Heck I'm unsure if doing a different one of those to start with changes the fragments in some way or something.
>>342924928
Doesn't matter, really. You'll have to do 100% sooner or later, so it's up to you.
>>342925131
Just answer that you don't know.
>>342924973The roulette has several numbers circled. You find a letter chart that allows you to match each number to a letter. This gives you the letters for SPIN but out of order, though you can easily figure it out at this point. There's another clue you find that gives the letter order, but I can't remember it.
>>342925131
Right now, you can say it was Eric, or let time run out
>>342924990
Don't be retarded.
For example I remember one of the equations being
symbol times symbol times symbol
there are only 13 digits with 0 included
3^3 > 13
so symbol has to equal 1 or 2
then with that knowledge you can determine what it is by looking at the other equations.
>>342924656
Press the button in the decontamination room as Q.
If you did, check the fragment again from the team selection screen. You may need to recheck each individual fragment as some of them don't appear in the flow chart view until you complete them.
>>342924990
Have you already built thenumber converting machine? If you have, thenmultiply the values of the 5 symbols together and input them in base 10 to the machine.
>>342924990
For shapes within the same space, you multiply
Shapes that are adjacent to each other in different spaces are different digits
>>342924928
>>342925162
Just remember to do them eventually. You'll need them to progress sooner or later. But as long as you still have stuff available to do, it doesn't matter.
>>342925207
Oh, so THAT'S what those were for.
idiot here, I figured out how to get the four digit code from the machine in the transporter room, but I don't know what to do with it. Did I miss something obvious?
>>342925093
Not that guy, but this guy:
>>342924445
Still have no clue what to do. Only lead is thethree way stand off and putting in "Sean" which doesn't work, and somehow guessing Zero's identity.
>>342925162
You're gonna have to view them sooner or later, otherwise the game won't let you progress after a certain point. The game checks for all of the results scenes you've viewed, hence the four icons on the flowchart that all light up for each scene.
>>342925331
Awesome. I screencapped the post and put that on my desktop so I can find it again so I know in future. Thanks anon!
>>342924730
Oh right. Thanks.
>>342924496
Is this actually anything of worth? Or is it just bonus death scenes? Is it necessary?
>>342925426
It's absolutely necessary.
>>342925372
Enter it into the nucleus.
>>342925372
Nevermind, I found it!
>>342924338
dude. is there a way to go back to library without doing all that shit again? just to input the code that needs to be shifted down 7 times?
>>342925384
Three regular options are Eric, Mira, Nobody
The fourth option relies on you knowing the "twist" regarding the Q team and is mostly just a bonus. Unless you know, leave it for now.
What do I do after turning on the robots in the manufacturing? It says I can't turn on the bomb when I touch it, so what else is there to do?
>>342925384The third route for the 3-way standoff is completely optional, so it's not what you need to do.
>>342924445
>>342925384
>Am I supposed to be able to reason that out?
If you've done every other fragment available, then yes.
>>342925564
Well what the hell am I supposed to then?
>>342925426
Well, beyond eventually being required to progress, you do get a bit of foreshadowing. Not much, but something
>>342925586
Inspect the strange machine next to the table on the left side of the room.
>>342925546
Nope. You have to start over in the study room. But you just have to power on the chair and input the code. You can skip everything else.
>>342925301
Please can you just tell me the answer? I just want to be done with this room ASAP, to hell with pacing.
>>342925654
Did you execute all the teams like in >>342924496
Are all four circles for the executions lit up next to the flow chart?
>>342925778
Fuck off. Gamefags is in that direction -->
>>342925714
ok wtf. it's just a piece of paper on how to combine the parts to make a big key. holy shit. i already combined all the parts even before seeing that note. i thought i skipped something important so i came back just to input the password.
>>342925207
>remember it
It's inside the chessbox
>>342925694
It's telling me to leave it alone. HAve I missed something?
>>342925851
Faggot tell me or I'll kick you into my incinerator.
Why didZeroshootGab?
what should i type on "who will you kill?" to get the 4th ending?
>>342925976
Do you have a coin or screwdriver or something to unscrew the panel?
>>342926020
Screwdriver. Right. My bad
>>342926018
You'll find out later. Just skip it for now.
>>342926018
triangle
>>342926020
>>342926059
Nevermind. It doesn't work. What else may I be mssing.
>mfw browsing ZTD threads to purposely spoil myself
Who madman here?
>>342925796
Yes. I've done that. Again. The only two fragments on the flow chart that lead to questions marks are:Decision: You are Zero!
Decision: 3-Way Standoff
Decision: Force Quit Box Q
Those are the only places in the fragments that lead to Question marks.
>>342926072
ok thanks. i guess so.
>>342926109
wtf. no. spoils plz
>>342926018
Eric, Mira, Nobody,Delta
The ending won't even make sense to you if you don't know what the fourth option is supposed to be and is just a bonus, so you don't have to input it immediately.
>>342925976Keep inspecting the white bomb until you trigger new dialogue to progress. It's not even a puzzle just a poorly designed room.
>>342926163
The story fucking sucked, so you're not missing out on anything.
Box guy here. I know the answer to D Team. I put inbroochbut neitherbirdcageorbluebirdfit. What's that last word?
>>342926109
is that supposed to be subtle?
Spoiler questionIn one of the endings, Carlos stayed behind and used the transporter to warp into the VLR timeline. And so, he should have emerged from the output machine 10 months prior to the events of ZTD. Wouldn't the output machine still be in the facility by then? How did he escape to the outside?
>>342926241musicbox
>>342926241Music Box
>>342926194
>what am I supposed to type?
>type this
>wtf spoilers
>>342926241Blue bird (space included)
>>342926287
>>342926290
That works too? I just putBlue Birdand it accepted it.
>>342926163
god, its so tempting, like, really tempting to just start hovering over these black boxes let me tell you.
>>342926290
>Music Box works
>>342925979
The answer isSeventeen years ago, a snail spoiled an entire ZTD thread.
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
>>342926212
>implying I would ever trust /v/ when they say something isn't good
1st question: Is this the 3ds version you guys are playing?
2nd question: Just spoil me fucking now, do Junpei and Akane get a good ending?
>>342926567
Dude is pure hyperbole but it's definitely not as good as the other two.
>>342926287
>>342926290
I may be the only one who wroteblue bird
>>342926547
I swear to fuck I've been in this room for 3 hours now, just tell me the fucking answer.
>>342926604filler space to answer you but YES and YES
>>342926283
Better question,why did Patrick from SpongeBob Squarepants mind hack him into being a retard for the next 10 months?
>>342926632
BUILD THE FUCKING MACHINE, EXAMINE THE HUGE ASS PURPLE FUCKING NUMBERS, FUCKING BITCH TELLS YOU THE ANSWER
>>342926604
[Spoiler] not really. Never expresses his love to her. Diana and sigma on the other hand...[Spoiler]
>>342926604YesThe ending is ambiguous but Junpei does propose to Akane at one point.
>>342926636
Fucking solve it nigger
>>342926175You should have enough information to answer the You are Zero fragment
>>342926778How is sending out wedding invitation letters an ambiguous ending?
>>342926727
Why are you yelling!? My answer was valid and game continued
>>342926652
>>342926769
>>342926778What do you mean by ambiguous? Does Akane stop being all Machiavellian?
>>342926868
NOT YOU, YOU
>>342926636
>>342926409
JUST DO IT AND GIVE IN TO YOUR INNER TEMPTATIONJunpei is Zero
Carlos is a prototype Left clone
Q is a time-displaced young Akane
Phi and Diana are twins from alternate timelines, but only one was born, Diana in the main timeline, and Phi from an alternate timeline
Alice is accidently sent back too far in time and becomes the All-Ice in legend
Akane occasionally regresses to a childlike state by switching minds with Q uncontrollably
Eric used to be Seven's partner before he retired after falling in love with a suspect, Mira
To stop Radical-6 from spreading, they must all stay in the bunker without escaping, as they all have trace amounts of Radical-6 that will intensify in outside environments
Wasn't that satisfying?
>>342926636
Let's play a decision game, anon. I call it Schrodinger's spoiler. In one timeline, I tell you the answer. In another, I drop a big fucking spoiler.Phi's twin is Zero.
What would you say the odds are that I just ruined the game for you?
>>342926769
>>342926778Read the epilogue files.
>>342926914It's not ambiguous. That anon probably didn't read the epilogues.
>>342926914its not ambigious that anon didnt read the epilougue
>>342926946Fucking hell, is Junpei actually Zero?
LITERALLY BLACKED
LUNA REMAINS BEST GIRL IN THE SERIES
Almost done.
What fragment isthe key to open Pandora's Box?
>>342926946
Not sure if there are actual spoilers behind that box, or if you are just rusing me
hmm... No. I don't even care at this point how "bad" people say the story is, I've been waiting to play it for myself and im not going to ruin it.
Help pls
>>342925384
This image is always relevant
>>342926369
yea. instant change of heart
>>342927140
We can't help you without knowing who drank what. There are multiple scenes where they drink different combinations that are randomized.
>>342926858Because they aren't getting married until after the next game ( :^)!), so who knows if they actually live to tell the tale or if Akane has to pull a VLR ending on him again.
>>342921531Wait, what the fuck? Carlos tries to rape Akane?
Is it just my imagination, or wasthe moon red in one ending and white in another one?
>>342927292Yes, it's awesome.
>>342926946>None of these are true
We live in a timeline abandoned by god.
>>342927213
Oh I had no clue
Jesus christ RNG was a mistake
I'll forgive it because it fits in lore wise I guess
Carlos EFGH
Akane BDFH
Junpei CDGH
I already tried A and H
>>342927332Is he Left? Is Brother revealed?
Is there a true ending I'm missing? I filled the flowchart and all the squares on the save file have icons but that last ending didn't feel right.
>>342926964
I already knew that retard, now let's SHIFT to a different timeline
WHATS THE FUCKING ANSWER DICKWEED
>>342927407No he's not Left. Brother is revealed.
>>342927380
Which of the three got a reaction? That's important information.
>>342927058Yeah, there's a lot of mumbo jumbo behind it but the gist is that he became a member of Free the Soul to search for Akane, and acts as Zero to be a representative for them. Also extended exposure to the morphogenetic field (the entire duration Akane connected him) for a first-timer kinda fried his brain a little and ultimately is using the game to get a chance to kill Akane as revenge for ruining him
>>342927452J-just spoil me.
>>342927407He just wants a piece of that morphogenetic ass. I mean can you blame him?
>>342927473
None of them
Sorry for forgetting that
How do I get the password for the computer reset thing?
The number Zero gave me didn't work. I've already done the force quit boxes for Team C and D.
>>342927380The one I got was pretty obvious. Did any of their tongues tingle? If not, then it's A in that timeline.
>>342927408
No, the whole game is a trainwreck. Uchikoshi just gave up trying to explain shit.
>>342927483So he and Akane are both just assholes suited for each other by the end of the game? Does Junpei do anything outright villainous?
>>342927421Zero did nothing wrong, except kill Gab
>>342927521
Disgusting.And no, not the attempted rape. Why the fuck would anyone want to put their dick into Akane? She's a psycho.
>>342927559
If it's none of them, then the answer is A. You said you already tried it before though. But when you restart, the scenario will change each time. Check the log to check what the scenario was this current time (who drank what and who got a reaction).
>>342927380
Take a look at 'File' in your pause menu.
So how did you decide to play the game? Team by team, or did you just hop around?
>>342927496
Brother =Eric
>>342927292He's trying to hide his actions from Zero. He does it to whisper instructions to Akane and provoke Junpei so Zero is distracted.
I just finished ZTD - overall it was good but I didn't get the same "mindfuck" as in the previous two games. I would have loved to see the scene whereBrother dared Akane/Junpei to SHIFT into Free the Soul meeting thing
>>342927616
Disappointing.
>>342927731Is literally everyone in his game an asshole outside of Diana?
>tfw you're neverfuck Diana in an ancient alien sex pod
>>342927570
anyone?
>>342927745
>lol it was just a prank bro
>>342927770
He's fucking with you, that is not the real answer.
>>342922562
Seriously someone tell me the answer I'm too tired for anymore bullshit and I've been in this room for about five hours
>>342922562
I need this shit too. Im not a fucking alien archaelogist
>>342927496It's a long story, but if you want to know how Left and Brother relate to ZTD...Brother is the Twin of Phi, who is the son of Sigma and Diana who were the only 2 who failed to escape. They had them before they died and transported them to 1904.Phi was transported to 2008 after being transported to 1904. Brother grew up in 1904 with Left although they weren't related. We don't know the parents who raised Brother or how Left died.Its a fucking long story, theres more to brother than just that but i don't feel like explaining anymore
>>342927745
Hey guys I was only pretending! You really need to take a joke
>>342927635He does try to rape Akane, which is the "rape scene" everybody is talking about and is considered in-game to be the moment he's completely gone. He and Akane are both executed by Carlos at the end after he realizes both are too dangerous to be trusted with the huge amounts of power they have. His last conversation with Akane is just heartbreaking as it suggests he may have one day been able to forgive her.
>>342927570
>>342927857
You'll have to be more specific than that if you want an answer.
>>342927857
The helmet number is different from the computer number. You probably don't have the computer one yet.
>>342927956
The quantam computer thing Q Team rushes to after they find the force quit box opened. It needs an 8 digit password.
>>342927983
How do I get it? I've done everything so far (from what I can tell)
>>342927896
15 minutes ago you said that it had been 3 hours. Use your time machine to leap to a parallel universe where you have found the answer.
>>342927919Wait, Junpei tries to rape Akane and is completely gone?
>>342927691
Oh shit
Ok so now its Carlos EFGH
Junpei CDGH
Akane BDFH
only junpei felt it
>>342927745>smug akane in the background
>'nah, he wasn't really pretending, he wants it :^)'
>>342928034You are being tricked and confused with actual spoilers and faked spoilers
>>342927770
Carlos is a pretty cool dude, he's the only sane man. Even Diana has a few loose screws, though she's alright when she's not beingmindjacked by unborn-twin-fetus-with-no-sense-of-right-or-wrong Phi
>>342928028
IVE BEEN IN THIS ROOM SO LONG IVE LOST TRACK OF TIME
MAYBE IVE ACTUALLY BEEN HERE FOR YEARS I DONT FUCKIN KNOW
>>342927919
What was the last conversation?
>>342927913Any explanation for the alien tech?
>>342928026Look in your flowchart, on the top left there should be 4 icons, one teal, one red, one green and one blue. Make sure you see those scenes to unlock the ones on Team Q to get the fragment with the password.
>>342928089
Sigma and Phi are pretty rational people. Which is why I went with D team first.
>>342928176>any explanation for the alien tech
hahaha ayyy lmaoSadly, nope. Just accept it.
>>342928176The alien tech is said to possibly be something from another history of humans, or literally aliens we don't knowIt was Discovered in the 1800's at the south pole by german researchers.It was recovered by the US after the loss of the germans during WWIIZero then stole it at around 2009 I think? I can't remember this part
>>342928176Aliens, don't have to explain shit.
>>342928176
>Why are we here? Just to suffer?
>Carlos... I'm already a demon
>>342928262
God fucking dammit Uchi. This is just like fuckingSpirit Circle with the alien shit at the end with no explanation whatsoever
Another thing I don't like is how they didn't explain how or whyMira killed Junpei. I know Delta gave her free hands to do anything but why wasn't Junpei's chest torn open if hearts were her thing?
>>342928384
BecauseMira is a twisted fucking psychopath who ruins literally everything in the game.
>>342928325Time leaping Hitler confirmed?
>Wait a minute Akane
>I'M the Maniac!
>>342928176Junpei and Akane are both in resting pods next to each other, and Junpei cries for what he says is the first time since the incident and admits he lost sight of himself and doesn't know how to get back on track. Akane admits she was acting out of self-interest and tells Junpei she wants the best for him, and would do anything in her power to bring Junpei to a state of ease, even let him kill her despite that not being in her plans. Junpei says he doesn't want to see her again, with the implication that he may be able to bring himself in front of her after a long period of healing. Carlos, though, doesn't hear this, and upon learning only two more passwords are needed, decides it would be best if they were to die.
>>342928107
Thanks
how did you figure that out by the way?
Is this another monty hall?
>>342928345
Anon pls. I know you're just rusing and all, but I need that final conversation.I heard some shit about how Akane had to erase Junpei's memory because of Rad-6, but that he proposed to her moments before that.
>>342928325
I might be mistaken, but I think he just bought it. They're connected to Cradle, and Cradle bought the Gigantic, so it seems they're rich enough to buy just about anything.
>>342928486
Probably.Although the transporter is a copy paste not a cut and paste
>>342928468
What the fuck do you mean everything?
I mean she did kill Eric... So that's at least one good thing
>suspect Mira is just fucked up
>I'm right, she doesn't break any expectations and she''s really just a psychopathDid Uchi seriously recycle his Dio schtick?
>>342928325
That... sounds fucking horrible.
What's stopping anyone from using that for some nefarious shit?
Uchi pls.
I'm not really hungry for story spoilers but can somebody spoil some jokes and funny references in the game for me? I heard sigma/phi and akane/junpei have good banter. That's all I've been looking for in these threads
>>342928550
Yeah, butshe rejected him and told him there was no way she could marry him
>>342928535
It's a basic logic problem. Only Junpei felt a reaction. Therefore, the correct antidote is the one only Junpei drank, and that can only be C.
>>342928659He recycled so much more than that.
>>342928159How fucking stupid can you get? I gave you the answer like 50 posts back and you ignored it.
It's 27951. From left to right, go down 2 symbols on the first slot of the left dial, then 7 symbols on the 2 second slot and so on, then pull the lever and input the cards shown on the vertical dial in the nucleus.
>>342928698
See
>>342928601Nothing happens in the timeline it is used.
How did you guys find out about the roll dice 3 times thing. Is it explained in another part of the game or is it just down to the player to keep on trying?
>>342928550
Those spoilers are fake. Junpei gives Akane a ring after Carlos gives him a sob story about his dead parents and how you need to do things while you're alive. Later, that Junpei and Akane get transported to a completely wrecked route that leads to VLR. Akane, realizing that she fucked up and transported to the VLRverse, breaks her bracelet, then stabs Junpei with it to get him with the amnesia drug, that way the VLRverse will be consistent. Akane keeps this ring, but Junpei forgot he gave it to her. She actually had it on in VLR, no joke.
>>342928778
It's a Monty Hall problem.
>>342928659
Well, he does recycle a ton of shit.
See: Never7, Ever17, Remember11 and 12Riven.
>>342928626>she killed the woman in the story thus setting off the whole series of events>she caused muh 6 billions to happen>she killed Junpei for no reason which caused Akane and Carlos to kill each other>she touched Eric's heart>she succumbed to Radical-6 and killed everyone
>>342928701
Examine the copper plate in the REC room for an old joke. Junpei is sorta edgelord, but Akane calls him out on it. He's actually one of the more jokey characters in the game, just kinda downtrodden most of the time.
>you will neverexperience a drunken one-night stand with Diana in an alien pod
Why even live.
>>342928938
Junpei is a top lad with top banter the entire game.
>>342928701
Phi:Aunt Kanny had all sorts of cats. You wouldn't think she was like this in her youth.
Sigma:You don't spay. I puspected her to be a cat woman. I bet she has one right nya.
I love cat mode Sigma.
>>342928760
Oh cool. So basically,that timeline is just disregarded? So what happened to the Phi of that timeline?
>>342928535
>>342928713
Adding to that, here are the possible combos and answers.
Nobody reacts: A
Everyone reacts: H
Only Junpei reacts: C
Only Carlos reacts: E
Only Akane reacts: B
Junpei and Carlos react: G
Junpei and Akane react: D
Carlos and Akane react: F
If you look at the chart, it's much easier and faster to figure out the patterns.
>>342928875
Yeah but she also killed Eric. That makes everything else forgivable.
>>342929013
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH
Fuck, that line really stung.
>>342929031I think there was something in the epilougue about it, but it was really just a cliffhangerIt does mean, however, there would be 2 phis in ZTD, one who is 20, and one who is 124. We never see old Phi
>>342929101
True, I was an Ericposter before the game, but the true best boy is Carlos.
>>342923034
>They're way better than ZTD
I really thought ZTD beats VLR in every aspect except maybe puzzles. 999 mainly has a better ending, ZTD is still good and has better gameplay since 999 has static timelines.
Team C spoilers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGYhRYwYhlM
>>342929185
>>342929031
You might be confusing me or I might be confusing you I'm not sure which but the more I talk about this the more my head hurts
Just to be clear, Delta mentions that because we undid the VLR timeline there is now a cult that does not get killed that kills 8 billion people with nuclear bombs. I believe this is a reference to Punchline. So due to VTD the world of punchline exists.
>>342929245
>I really thought ZTD beats VLR in every aspect except maybe puzzles.
Then you're a fucking idiot.
>this scene appears from nowhere
Lost my shit immediately.
>>342929314
I kinda get it, but there's still a ton of questions I have that won't be answered until I actually get the game. Until then, I'm just here to get spoiled.
Anyway, thanks for answering my questions.
>>342929406
Don't call him an idiot, he just has horrible taste. He's the one who has to live with that.
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIIIIIIIS
>>342929245
Look, I'm not gonna say your opinion's bad or anything buuuuut... You're fucking retarded. ZTD is only better than the previous games in gameplay, and nothing more.
>>342929647
You forgot to mention it doesnt perform like molasses (something vlr LOVES to do)
Where are the A, B and G keys for the mental room? Does the missing star have something to do with it?
>>342929631
Aksys guy is supposed to say something about it later.
I'm more worried about getting charged double for the watch and game being shipped separately.Plus, I'm an importer. Fuck Amazon Canada and EBGames for not carrying the LE
Just finished the game.
Final thoughts:I fucking love Delta as a villain. He's the first actual villain of the Zero Escape series, though that is debatable. He's probably the weakest Zero, but that's because the other Zeroes are so fantastic.This has the weakest ending in the series, but it has the strongest mid-game. 999 probably has better atmosphere, but that may just by memory making 999 seems even better then it was.I don't mind the alien tech thing too much. It was kind of a "Oh you're not even trying anymore" moment sure, but this has always been complete sci-fi nonsense. Removing the facade wasn't the worst thing that could happen.The Q twist kind of didn't make any sense. There are a few moments which firmly cement Sean as Q.It was great that they didn't worry about the game being too "scary: this time.
Overall fantastic. I don't know where I think it stands in comparison to the others, though. Maybe it goes 999>ZTD>VLR?
>>342929836
Have you already gotten the one that ishalf on the chair, half on the wall?
I was really pleased with howMira'a gender transitionwas handled.She was made to be a clone of Left, so by dying her hair, tanning her skin, and undergoing surgery, is she defying her purpose of existence? Is it even possible for her to have a purpose in life beyond the one she was made for? She struggles to overcome her bloodlust from her days as an agent of Free the Soul, and when she's not going psycho she shows quite a bit of shame and denial. One of the best trans women in gaming.
>>342929647
Not even that. VLR had a better memo system and navigating through fragments can be tedious as fuck as it's easy to find yourself with a flowchart full of dead ends and not knowing what to do because you are supposed to go back to a fragment that is not marked and not on the flowchart.
>>342929917Remember to read the epilogue files
>>342929647
Not him, but I think ZTD's Zero was the best in the series. Near-constant presence, clear and well-established motives, and is pretty good with making metaphors, analogies, and talking around the others or pushing their buttons. I don't care much for Zero's origins, but as a character, they are pretty cool.
>>342929836
You only get the A and B keys after getting all the others. Did you light the candle? Did you put the tumbler under the light?
>>342929991I want Mira to touch my heart with her huge dick.
>>342929975
Yeah, I got the one in the tank, the tumbler one, the one on the original wall and the flower puzzle one too.
>>342921185
Question:What do I do with the capsules in the biolab as Q? And how do they relate to the specimens? Danke.
>>342928550He proposes to her some time before that, in another timeline before they get transported to the VLR one. The entire thing is a callback to the ending scene in 999 10 years ago where Junpei gives her a present but fucks up (he says he remember her mentioning she wanted a ring on her left hand when she was little and then proceeds to put it on her right hand), and just like the childhood scene Akane says she'll never forget him and Junpei stubbornly insists he won't forget her either as he faints from the drug she injected him with
>>342930053
I lit the candle but I'm not seeing any key. The tumbler is stuck on the ground after I checked the reflection
>>342929917>999 probably has better atmosphere, but that may just by memory making 999 seems even better then it wasHaving replayed 999 and VLR right before ZTD came out, 999's great atmosphere is way more consistent, but ZTD has incredible spikes, like the Pantry fragment.
>>342930047
Zero the III was best Zero desu
>>342930194Looks closely at the patterns of the pills. Do they form anything to you?
>>342930194
Hint One:Look at the Capsules carefully.
Hint Two:The answer may not be obvious at first
Hint Three:Maybe try looking at the capsules in a different way?
Hope that helps :^)
Why the fuck did Brothersend Dio to sabotage the AB game if its success was part of his own plan for this decision game?
>>342930243
One of the rooms, the forest one I think, has a different pattern on the candle shadow
>>342930102
The scene where Eric finds out, and proclaims he'll love her no matter her past, breaking Mira's bloodlust and causing her to cry for the first time in her life, is easily one of the best scenes in the series. Uchikoshi is really damn good at writing emotional scenes like these
>>342930268
Especially in English.
>>342929917How were Dio and Ace not "actual villains"?
You may mean first villainous Zero but even that is wrong, his motives were "complex :^)" and ultimately he was working towards the greater good. He's no more or less villainous than Akane and Aoi, or even Sigma.
>>342930341Because the bombs were necessary to make Phi and Sigma jump, Akane literally let Dio in.
It's been a while since I played VLR though, I may be wrong
What's the 3rd option for the standoff?
Already have Mira, Eric, andDelta
>>342930403
SIGGY
PHIDO
>>342930279I've noticed some have holes, two have the same amount of holes, but that's where I'm dead ended. Is there really a way to know the specimen placements from the capsules even if two of the packs have the same amount of holes missing?
>>342930452no one
>>342930452Nobody
>>342930476
>>342930472
Damn brats
>>342930268
He was good too, but Zero the II isn't just some shadowy figure that shows up at the start and bails for the rest of the game, only mentioned by players every now and then. Zero is CONSTANTLY voiced in scenes, has side scenes with characters, gets involved with people sometimes, etc. Zero the II's presence sets them 100 times above any of the previous ones.
>>342929998
>>342929647
>>342929406
>>342929584
Yeah I'll give the memo was retarded. ZTD has better puzzle UI and better timelines, VLR has repeating events constantly (Quark infected, Alice dead, Dio bombs etc) which aren't even that interesting in the first place. ZTD has a much wilder ride, and while getting stuck with no new fragments is annoying, I found the jumbled timeline mess more intriguing.
Both has subpar endings though.
>>342930471Stop focusing on the number of holes. Look at the pattern. Do they look like anything to you?
>>342930319Thanks, and also thanks for not saying the answer directly. I'll analyze harder~ Thought I kept missing an item.
>>342930385
wait what I don't remember that, which scene was that?
>>342930471Focus on the packets, not the capsules themselves
>>342930601q-end 1, just before he dies
>>342930601
It was in the same fragment that Qtook off her helmet and turned out to be one of Lotus's daughters
>>342930438I did mean first villainous Zero, and it's why I said it's debatable that he's a villain. He's definitely an asshole at the very least, and that's why I kind of love him.
>>342929917
>This has the weakest ending in the series, but it has the strongest mid-game. 999 probably has better atmosphere, but that may just by memory making 999 seems even better then it was.
>Maybe it goes 999>ZTD>VLR?
I think I pretty much agrees with you. I wish the endings was fleshed out more and stuff likewhat happened to clover/snake and kyleexplained, but everything from 999 is really minor stuff and the midgame is really the strongest in the series.
>>342930723I don't remember her crying, I thought that her bloodlust ended because she had finally gone full circle with her violence and found "warmth" again. It was at that moment that she knew that Eric truly loved her, and I think that's why she marries Eric in the True End.
>>342930341
The sabotage was probably intentional. He knew about the AB game because the VLR Akane jumped back to the MMTS, so he simply made sure the events would play out the same next time she made the jump. Worst case scenario VLR happens again and he saves 2 billions. Best case you get ZTD's true ending.
>>342930347
I got it, thanks senpai
>>342929647
I liked the sprites of 999 best but honestly, the cutscenes worked better in ZTD than the models in VLR. VLR doesn't even have that good of a story and ends on a cliffhanger, ZTD has a weak ending but the climax is great.
>>342930950
I loved the models in VLR, really expressive.
>>342931007
I thought many of them missed the mark. Clover's surprised expression looks like she's smiling, for one.
>>342930841No, she only had bloodlust because she was "programmed" to perform assassinations during her days as a Left clone. Eric accepts her after learning her past as a male cult member, allowing her to finally move on.
>>342931007
Even with the Clover of 3 Expressions?
>>342931075
>>342931059
Better than ZTD's outsourced to vietnam sweatshop workers Cinematic™ cutscenes that aren't that all that animated
>>342931063
:^)For real though, was it implied that the woman she killed was Eric's mom? It would explain the smile stuff and having the same warmth. I would sometimes turn the speakers up and eat food while listening to the scenes, so I'm not sure if maybe I missed something.
Of all the shit Uchi recycled, why didn't he make Q have multiple identities depending on the timeline like he did with K and Akane? There were three fucking different scenes where Q takes off this helmet and each is given a lot of buildup, and they make you input the code each time. I was 100% sure it would turn out to be the real Sean in at least one timeline, but nope, every time he's just a robot. It ends up looking like a last minute removal of an actual satisfying real end so Uchi could shoehorn sequelbait into the true ending AGAIN.
>>342931190
The animations are bad but it worked surprisingly well in scenes where shit goes down.
>>342931229
Which is ironic because it was established that this was the last game in the ze trilogy so a sequel bait to nothing
>>342931223
Yes
>>342931223I wouldn't even call it implied with how that scene played out. There's no way that wasn't Eric's mom.
how do I know when I unlock a story lock? will the lock become a "!", or do I have to watch the previous scene again and hope it unlocks?
5=e
21=u
26=z
28=/=b
???
>>342931476
>will the lock become a "!"
Yes
>That entire ambidex fragment and everything that follows
>Junpei fucks you over no matter AGAIN
>Smugger than before if you ally, Akane will kill you if you betray
>Carlos has enough of the shit and interrupts the game before it starts
>Akane explains timelines and goes full out setting off the fucking reactor to have them jump
>Junpei has reservations at first before he goes even crazier than her
>Makes them jump to an even more screwed up timeline, tricks Akane into surviving and getting their X-passes
>Akane gets mad but he proposes and fucks up but she accepts
>Things are going great until they find out the X-passes doesn't work
>Suddenly zombie Q
Holy fucking shit I was at the edge of my seat the entire time
>>342931476
>will the lock become a "!"
Correct
>>342931394Sheesh, I knew Mira was the literal source of problems that started the entire series, but she was responsible for Eric's shitty childhood too? Jesus, what an absolute cunt. I know she tries to redeem herself at the end with Q's help, but still, that's a lot of shit, fucking hell. Better be giving Eric MAXIMUM SUCC now that she's out of prison, fuck.
>>342931549
You need a second clue.
>>342929185
>one who is 20, and one who is 124. We never see old Phiaccording to the files, the one who is 124 is her adoptive mother. She ended up working for the same facility and raising 2008 Phi
>>342931229
I agree, I was waiting for that recycled twist all the time and was disappointed it never happened.
>>342931645
I found the paper with the order.
5 28 21 26
There has to be something else but I haven't found it. Not yet anyway. All the bottles with. Numbers are taunting me though.
>>342931686
Fuck how did I not catch up on this
Who is the worst character and why is it Eric?
>>342931949
What are you talking about, he's easily the best Zero
>>342931762
This reminds me, did anyone find a use for the Sunset matches and the Oil? Is the room randomized so you only need some of the clues while the others go unused? Because I remember finding it odd that I didn't find any use for them.
I'm not staying in this thread to avoid spoilers but I just need to say that the Control Room made me feel like a fucking retard
>>342932004
Tag your fucking spoilers
>sometimes you type in the x passes
>sometimes you don't
ewe lad
>>342932092
>tfw read the pink SW as S for three hours because of the shitty 3DS screen
Finished the game but I'm missing a few quest files
One betweenResearch Notes BiolabandZero Doll Picture
And one betweenPolovtsian Secret 2andNote (Healing Room)
Sorted by Room
Anyone know what they are?
>Carlos, this is truly a Zero Time Dilemma.
Fucking really, Uchikoshi?
>>342931949
Junpei was up there for a good part of the game. He was just plain annoying during most of the game, he reads, acts and sounds like a shitty fanfic written by a 12 years old that gets bullied a lot.
>>342932207
When is that line said? I only remember the jokes like Zero Cooking Hour with Akane and Carlos and dumb stuff like that.
Fuck, I've been occasionally scrolling though these threads for these last 2 days but it's just impossible with spoilers everywhere. Only 2 days left, I must endure.
>>342931762
You are missing a clue. The missing clue isLetter Chartand you find it inthe helmet of one of the knights
>>342932049
I didn't use those either.
>>342932092
Once I realized I needed toPhi is ZeroI felt like such an idiot.
>>342932249
Shit taste, Junpei had great banter from the start, even disregarding his emo moments which are far fewer than the PR material would have you believe.
>Hey Akane, why not try using the morphogenic field?
>>342932168
Fucking this.
Also, fuck that shitty knobs puzzle, I think I may be angle retarded.
>>342932396
That's some pretty forced banter
Can you play as Junpei in ZE3?
>>342932167
sowhat's up with the thing saying error every time anyways?
>>342931949
Mira easilyshe's the only titty monster who is actually a monster
>>342932171
First one isNote (Pod Room)
Second one isBlueprint (Study)
>>342932481
How was it forced? Akane wants a way to communicate with the others, it's the kind of smug remark you'd remember if you saved this girl a year ago in ridiculously contrived ways before she ditches you.
Dub or sub? Everyone says dub but I played VLR with nip voices so I'm leaning towards sub
>>342932207
What the fuck is a Zero Time dilemma anyway? I don't think they explained it.
>>342932481
Yeah fuck you sigma fag
>>342932625
Both VLR and ZTD have pretty good dubs.
>>342932516You don't press Check after inputting in one X-Pass, you can click the letters to keep typing more then submit when all 6 are used. It'll give you an Error prompt if not all boxes are filled.
>>342932625
I'd recommend sub if you played VLR's sub. The dub is fine too though.
>>342932625
Dub is pretty good, especially D-team, even if it has it's awkward moments.
I'm a jupeifag, will i get cucked in ZTD?
>>342932625
Whatever fits your taste. Reminder that japanese dub has an all star cast.
>>342921185
This thread and the black boxes indeed.
You can't be fucking serious.
Am I really this odd, not to be bothered by spoilers.
Or rather how come people are that sensitive about going in blind and what not.
Besides, wouldn't it be more reasonable to just, not visit threads and other media in the likes of this, knowing they're likely to expose content.
I really don't understand anything anymore.
>>342932759
Well...
>>342927521
>>342932759
Everyone gets cucked in ZTD. Everyone.
>>342932859
Preorder cancelled.
Fuck that shit.
>>342932759
Junpeifinally scores
>>342932956
It's literally a ruse to bait him >>342927745
>>342932625
English and JP D team are both great.
English Q team is pretty good, but JP's is great.
English C team is god awful, JP is great. https://a.uguu.se/uSaBk2F2Jpny_2016-06-25_022425028.webm
So preference for D and Q team, but 100% JP for C. You can switch voices anytime from the options menu, so just try each set out and see which you like more.
>>342932956
If it's any consolation,it was just a prank, bro
>>342933040
>>342933089damn carlos is a bro, sorry if i've ever doubt him.
>>342933193
Carlos is best boy
>10/10 bro
>handsome
>wants to protect everyone
>great wingman
>literally perfect
>>342928061She's smug 'cause she knows exactly what she's doing.
>>342933193
Carlos is fucking based.>waits 10 months to use the teleporter
>doesn't stop Zero's plan just so he can fulfil his promise to Junpei and Akane to save them from the shelter
>constantly acts as a wingman to Junpei, leading to marriage
>devoted to his imouto
>doesn't die when shot by shotgun
>>342926978Wait, who's the fanatic?
>>342932171
Blueprint one was funky. Enter "Q - 12 - 10" on the chair. There's a note that says "J - 05 - 03", but has three wind dance figures above it, so you convert it.
>>342933460
>doesn't stop Zero's plan just so he can fulfil his promise to Junpei and Akane to save them from the shelter.
Was this scene supposed to be funny? Because it was.
>I DID IT GUYS I SAVED YOU :DDDD
>Carlos you fucking dumbass, why didn't you stop Zero?
>I PROMISED :DDD
>ALL SIX BILLION CARLOS. ALL SIX BILLION
>FUG :DDDD
Not sure if the fact that he wouldn't stop smiling as Akane was scolding him was intentional or just shitty animation,
Makes me wonder though, where was Carlos in VLR? Did he just die?
Fuck you!
>>342933812Given that Carlos is so fucked up by the mere thought of POSSIBLY having killed Junpei that he cuts his throat open with an Ax in one ending, it's likely that he eventually succumbed to the suicidal desires that Radical-6 gives someone. If not though, it's possible that he used his ESPer powers to help others in VLR route, but was kept from Junpei because Junpei was to be unaware of his direct involvement in ZTD, and Carlos might spill the beans to him.
>>342933812Carlos does seem like the type that would succumb to Radical 6, especially if his sister didn't make it in that world too.
How come when Sean died the announcer lady said Q died?
>>342933614
There's not really any way to give the context without big spoilers, but basically: no one knows.Zero's entire thing is that he was choosing the lesser of two evils. A religious fanatic ends up destroying all 8 billion people in a nuclear terrorist attack, but Radical-6 will kill him, resulting in only 6 billion dying. Nobody knows who he is, but Zero's other goal was to find the timeline where people would put faith in the future and try to discover the fanatic, and put an end to his plan, which ends up as Crash Key's current goal (with assistance from Carlos).
>>342933812He flips his smile pretty quick, though.
>>342934419Isn't it implied Q dies at the same time? Sean doesn't die because he's a robot.
Just beat it. I was pretty damn satisfied.If this is the last game, why was the ending written like that? Shit's going to bother me for the rest of my life now.
>>342934419If Q is announced to be dead, then Q is dead. Sean can't 'die'.
>>342934523
>>342934505It was during the ending with the standoff. If you shoot no one, Eric shoots Sean and a few seconds later the announcement lady says Q died. We already know Delta was in the same room as them and that he wasn't shot in that decision.
Why did they change Akane's design so radically for this game?
>>342934513
I don't mind theterrorist part, since it's left so vague it has very little to do with the story,but I hope there's a QA forwhat happened to characters from 999 and VLR, especially Kyle
>>342934583
There's an explosion,he could have died
>while Uchikoshi intends for the third game to resolve all mysteries left from the second game, as well as all introduced in the third game.[34] While he intends for the series to be a trilogy with a story that ends on the third game,[34][41] he is open to "new incidents arriving" if fans still request it.[34]
FUCK YOU
LITERALLY NOBODY ASKED FOR THIS
>>342934609
The new artist is shit.
How do you rate the soundtrack of the game? I think it's easily the best in the series.
>>342934583Look at that scene closely, especially when the grenade hits. Notice the nearby shadow to the left?
So I just finished the game:1.In the timeline where team D gets executed and Junpei gets killed and Akane and Carlos fight each other:
If you answer "Sean" in the "who killed mira" question Eric will say "I know it was you" - although he never knew his name. He also will call him Sean later in the timeline although we never saw him revealing his name.
2. The fact that Phi get "send" into the future means that there may be 2 Phis (depending on how hold Phi can get) but never Zero/Delta never mentions that or seem to give a shit. It was kind of weird that we talked about how the transporter worked and then we just ignore this.
3. Aliens. That is bad, wow.
4. Why not use the teasered Schrödingers Time Travel from VLR? Also: Where is Clover/Alice? What about kyle and who ist "?" ?
5. Phi attacks Delta although he can mindread and proved it before, good idea Phi, I thought you were smart.
6. How could Zero/Delta know the exact date of his Birth?
7. How did Eric know the combination for the Force Quit Box. It makes no sense at all. Zero tells Junpei and Akane the phrase but Carlos was not present at the time, yet suddenly he has flashbacks from Zero talking - bullshit
8. Does nobody bother that Mira is a serial Killer? I mean she killed Eric's mom (atleast it is implied that it was his mom) and in the end nobody seems to give a shit that she IS a serial killer. It is not like fucking Zero where nobody died in that timeline.
9. Also: What was this forced decision game if you jump or not? Junpei, Akane and Carlos let a fucking reactor explode to shift although they didnt need to. Carlos lets himself get shot to shift - like he gave a single fuck about the Carlos that takes his place.
And the most important thing that is not even a spoiler:Junpei was fucking annoying and Carlos is best bro.
>>342934732
I think he suits the game but Akane is almost unrecognizable.
>>342934795
>Where is Clover/Alice?
>wanting either of those to return
>>342934795
>2. The fact that Phi get "send" into the future means that there may be 2 Phis (depending on how hold Phi can get) but never Zero/Delta never mentions that or seem to give a shit.
It's hinted thatold Phi raised her young self
>>342934884
SPOILER THAT SHIT
>>3429347952. You seem to be a bit dense. The second Phi is the foster mother of the game Phi.
>>342934451So Zero used Radical-6 as a desperate way to kill the fanatic?
>>342934795>He also will call him Sean later in the timeline although we never saw him revealing his name.
...Because if Sean said his name the twist would be ruined you fuckwit. He probably told Eric/Mira his name but we just didn't see it.
>>342934513It leaves it pretty open for a book or kinetic VN, or something. I don't think they'd do another escape game if the story is directly following Crash Keys, but I do hope we at least get a story covering the fanatic in some fashion.
>>342934795
A bunch of your questions are answered in files. Read them.
Can someone tell me what the quest file between Polovstian Secret 2 (Study) and Note (Healing Room) is?
>>342934795
>9.Also: What was this forced decision game if you jump or not? Junpei, Akane and Carlos let a fucking reactor explode to shift although they didnt need to.Akane is just that cold and calculating, Junpei's following plan shows that he's just as crazy as her
>Carlos lets himself get shot to shift - like he gave a single fuck about the Carlos that takes his place.
It'sjust how things work, as Akane says. One of yourselves will die, you decide which. It seems to be something they get used to. Besides, it's not like Carlos has much problems with sacrificing himself in the first place, even before he learns about SHIFT.
>>342935147
It's just an useless piece of paper which tells you what order to combine the key pieces in. You can just ignore it.
>>342935147
>Blueprint (Study)
Find a second combination for the chair.
>>342935152That was the point. Why bring up this "moral" issue when the character in the story already did that countless times and did not give a single shit. So many alternative people "died" as the result of shifting - Why should we now give a fuck about the ones that were lucky in the coin toss.
>Do the decontamination fragments for everyone
>Go back to D Team
>Force Quit box is unlocked
>Apparently Diana remembers something
>I'm trying to think of what it could possibly be
>Going through the files but got nothing
Well this is great. I'm assuming I'll find the password in another fragment and it will be completely obvious right?
>>342935147
Q - 12 - 10
Enter in chair.
I was worried that the ending would be a mess but I think it was pretty solid and wrapped most of the series up. Obviously there were a few loose ends that'll probably get answered by Uchi, but even if they aren't I'm still satisfied.
I actually hope there isn't a sequel because I feel like it would just re-open Uchi's can of worms and mess up the story.
>>342935461
It will be completely obvious when you find it.
>>342935368
Oh, you mean that decision game.Yeah I agree, it makes sense that they bring it up, but they should have just concluded with "that's just how it is" instead of making it a game.
>>342935368
Because the people they were SHIFTing to all won the decision game. They won the bet with Zero and were promised to get out alive. Going from being granted freedom to getting blown up is a bit shitty.
>>342935507
Fucking hell shit like this is getting me paranoid.
>>342935461
to find the password you have tohave drunk sex with dianaseriously
>>342935496
If there's a solid QA to this then I'd be pretty satisfied actually. As it is, I find the beginning and ending weak, and the beginning is easily ignored due to how strong the midpart is.A QA tying up loose ends would be enough for me, I don't want a sequel either
>>342924805
Probably just a designer gaffe. The Japanese logo doesn't have this.
Beat the game and got all the files.
What was the point of theWeight 188 thing in the incinerator? I know that's Sigma's weight but it was never relevant.
>>342935718The chair triggered when a person weighing 188 pounds sat on it.
>>342935718
It explains why it didn't trigger for Diana, I guess. Not a thing they should've hidden.
>>342935718Means that only Sigma can sit down. But it is useless, yes-
Who is the hooded person that kills Sigma, Phi and Diana in that one game over?
>>342935718
It'sthe weight for the chair to activate. It doesn't react when Diana sits on it because she's too light.
>C-Team's SHIFTing plan to get 2 extra X-Passes
>All hyped, ready to type them in
>Error
>You cannot use X-Passes from another timeline.
Fuck.
>>342935778Mira______
>>342935778
It makes sense later, if you've finished the gamethen you know Mira was free to roam around being exempt from injections
>>342935802
>yfw all theSean botscame out and started kicking ass
Okay I'm stuck now
I already had all teams killed on the vote at least once, and the only significant thing I got is Q's helmet code thing. Where do I apply it? The one that starts with 601.
>>342935868
it felt very surreal to me. Almost out of place to be honest.
>>342935953You need to get the pass for Q-Team's force quit box segment. You won't get it for a while.
>>342934882
For the most part, they were underused in VLR, though not as badly as Quark.
>>342935953
By killed, you mean their execution symbol is lit up right? If not, go and rig the votes so that two teams have voted for a single team.
If so, check the flowchart for any ! symbols.
You will know when to use that code.Hint: It only works on Q's Helmet.
>>342936118
Yeah, I've had every team vote for each other and seen the execution scnees for all of them already. nO exclamations
>>342936178
Any Decision options you've not done yet?
>>342936178
Did you also push the button for all teams?
So were there any subtle hints about Brother/Q being around that some of the characters said? Similar to how Phi called Sigma an old man in VLR at the beginning of the game?Also in the beginning, Carlos says "Wait.. you're.." as Zero puts him to sleep. Did he know it was Brother/Q? How?
>>342936295
The shower buttons? Nope, I'll try it
>>342936178
Clearing theAmbidex fragment (Power Room puzzle)did it for me.
Uhm im stuck after the first time Sigma and diana travel, the door of truth, I am unable to find a screwdriver
>>342936317
Quite a few.>Q-Team is... How could they...
>Even Q... He couldn't even see, or hear when... To just mercilessly kill someone like that...
and>What do you think, old man? C-Team's gotta be alive... right?
>What are you doing Eric? He's not going to answer you.
>camera pans to dog, I guess they call it an old man cause it's old
>>342936441
Already did that part, all outcomes.
Main thing is the study place on Q route, where you have to decide who to kill. Can't figure out what the fourth outcome is.
>>342936317
All I can remember was one scene where the camera switches to what looks like Gab's point of view and Eric calls him an old man. Then Sean says "Do you think he can speak?" or something along those lines.
How the fuck do you do the last sliding block puzzle in the pod room?
>>342936178
You also viewed the three-way tie, right?
>>342936317>So were there any subtle hints about Brother/Q being around that some of the characters said? Similar to how Phi called Sigma an old man in VLR at the beginning of the game?
I didnt notice any.
Compared to VLR it feels kinda stupid too.Like you gonna tell me that there was this "potato" of a man sitting right there and nobody gave a shit?
>>342936554
>Main thing is the study place on Q route, where you have to decide who to kill. Can't figure out what the fourth outcome is.
It is not important right now. You don't need it to finisht the game.
>>342936559
You slide the puzzle and it will unlock the door.
>>342936612
first thing I did. Now pressing shower buttons for everyone.
>>342936614
Oh, alright. Would still like to try to figure out how to get the fourth outcome though, but probably a spoiler
kept wondering why the timelines flow in a linear fashion if the teams are supposed to be puzzling at the same timeNow it makes sense
>>342936317
Also, all ofQ's X-Passesare hints towards it.EYE, AGE, SELF
>>342921185
how is the game on the 3DS?
>>342936317You can actually see their shadow in some cutscenes. Somebody pointed out in this thread you can see it if you choose to shoot nobody during the Mexican standoff.
It's actually pretty brilliant since it's a twist that only works with the cinematic cutscenes in this game, where your only glimpse into the world is what the camera shows you, compared to the VN style of previous games that would have given it away early on, since you know everything the protagonist knows. Quite a clever use of a basic cinematic principle.
>>342936705
>Oh, alright. Would still like to try to figure out how to get the fourth outcome though, but probably a spoiler
You will know what name to enter at around the last fifth of the game.
Did you answer the "who killed mira" question?
Are you sure you have all decisions made?
>>342936640
Thanks anon, finally got it.
>>342936816
>twf everyone suggested Uchikoshi would use the cinematics for new narrative twist and he fucking did, the madman
>>342936804
It's alright, but if you have the option for PC or Vita, I highly recommend those.
3DS' low resolution makes some puzzle rooms become pixel hunt hell, and there are slight frame rate issues when there's a lot of effects on screen, but that's only a few scenes.
>>342936804
XL screen recomended, there are times where the thing you need to click or grab are like 2 pixels wide.
>>342936495
You need acoin instead of screwdriver
>>342936614What do you mean, nobody gave a shit? Most of the characters referring to Q were talking about him, not Sean.
>>342936804
If you can, just wait for the Vita or PC version.
3DS version is fine and definitely playable, but some of the textures are so bad it practically takes you out of the game (Sigma's shirt, the desert ground, etc.)
>>342936804
Some fps drops here and there. Inventory management from 999 is back.
Still got the feeling they somehow forgot they made the game for the 3DS. Resolution is so shit in some rooms its hurts.
Also the memo function is completely ruined. In VLR atleast you could use the memo funciton and it would appear at the top screen and you can enter stuff on the bottom. Now everything is at the bottom screen. Same as if you want to make nodes based of the log.
I don't know how they could fuck this up when they had it right in VLR.
I'm about 2 hours in and the new flowchart system isn't making a lot of sense to me. does it get more linear/navigateable soon? what's the least confusing way of advancing the story? I'm at theacid showers
also this game is ugly on a 3DS XL, damn
>>342936919
After that. For the fish tank
>>342936614
>Like you gonna tell me that there was this "potato" of a man sitting right there and nobody gave a shit?
When people were talking aboutQ they meant him, the other teams aren't aware of Sean existing. For Q-team, there's stuff like Eric talking to the old man, and Mira saying he won't answer.
>>342936975
Yeah I just keep notes in a text file
>>342936982
The point is, since they forget everything between sections, you need to piece together what happens between random sections
>>342936982
The plot is supposed to seem random until the end where things start getting pieced together.
Plus the flowchart ends up getting changed becauseof a twist.
>>342936982
It will make sense as you progress, just keep going. Remember that they're losing memories every 90 minutes, so both you and them don't know what happens chronologically.
To save confusion, make sure that you see every execution and shower room outcomes, and that the icons are lit up.
That means if you need to see D-Team's execution, go back and make C-Team and Q-Team vote for D-Team, repeat until you've seen them all. Same goes for the Shower Room, make sure you press the button and don't press the button for each team.
Progression wise, just play whatever fragments you want in any order.
>>342936889
>>342936901
>>342936971
>>342936975
wew alright Vita it is then
Might buy the Steam version later on this year
>>342937109
Why wouldn't you spoiler the "flowchart gets changed" part? Saying there's a twist is hardly a spoiler
I don't think Carlos shoots Brother. If you read the post-game notes, Carlos is on the beach and shit. If he did kill Brother he'd be in jail.
Case closed.
>>342936982
Did you view all the results/executions for the voting game yet? Go ahead and do that if you haven't, you'll need to at some point.
Try to view all outcomes for each fragment, unless it requires information you don't have yet. The game stays nonlinear for a while, though it's at least easier to track after a while.
>>342937214
quit your bitching, you're posting in a thread where end-game spoilers are in every other post
I am stuck in the Biolab with team Q. I've got the microscope running, but it can't be used as it's to blurry. I've no hints regarding that simon says color puzzle and apparently I need to use the centrifuge to separate the fluids but the characters don't want to use the machine. Any hints?
>>342937246
I don't thinkhe kills Brother either because he's a pure moralfag. Even when he kills Akane it's more out of self-defense after she slices off his hand, and his other option in that scene is to kill himself to keep her safe.
>>342937307
I'm not bitching, I'm just wondering why you would put spoilers around the "there's a tweest" part. I already knew the flowchart switches.
>>342937331
microwave the centrifuge cover
>>342937246He also would not shoot him because he did nothing wrong in that timeline.
Persons to other things in other timelines. Remember the parallel universe where Hitler cured cancer. You can't judge people based on what the did in another timeline.
>>342937331
I think you have to unscrew the centrifuge. Not sure though, but you need to seperate to colors for the simon game.
>>342937331
Might be a pixel hunt. There's a booklet on the shelf next to the centrifuge. Looks like a white label on the box's lid. That's a manual for the centrifuge, you can then use it to separate the liquids once you remove the cover.
Wait, where are all these people getting spoilers from?
Did the game come out? Did someone leak?
>>342937386
>>342937410
>>342937430
Thanks guys, it really was the goddamn instruction manual in that heap of pixels.
>>342937050
Open all the lockers
>>342937501
Game leaked 2 days ago
>>342937508
Especially since they say "there's nothing useful on this bookshelf"
>>342937108
>>342937109
>>342937168
>>342937280
yeah, I thought the "memory loss = scattered gameplay" thing could be a thing, it's just challenging my habits a bit. thanks for the tips.
>>342936835
>Did you answer the "who killed mira" question?
Nope, still no idea what the fuck to enter. When I enterSean, somehow both Q and Eric know who that is and he shoots Q anyway.
Does the game really just endswith leaving it up to interpretation on whether or not Carlos shot Delta?
>>342937631
The answer towho killed Miraisto not input anything, or input 'dont know'
>>342937667
YesBut I'm pretty sure he didn't shoot Delta. Not only is that out of Carlo's cahracter, but if you read the post-game notes he's not in jail so I really doubt it.
>>342937501
No, we just tapped into the morphogenic field
Just finished. Is there anything else, like the extra epilogue stuff in VLR, or is that it?
>>342937631
I give you the solution now because that kept me from finishing the game several hours but someone on /v/ gave the answer to me. You will hate yourself afterwards just like I did.
The answer is:Dont Know
>mfw I read this shit
>>342937631
>somehow both Q and Eric know who that is and he shoots Q anyway.
You're gonna feel real dumb soon.
>>342937667
Yes, that's the point becauseall decision games up until that point has been influenced by either you/BW or Delta. Carlos makes his decision independent of you, and you don't get to interfere.
>>342937751
Check the Cinema files for some epilogue filesexcept for Sigma, Diana and Phi
>>342937815
new
>>342937734
>>342937775
>>342937792
BULL FUCKING SHIT
GODDAMN
>>342937775
I think I was the one who gave you the answer and I got it by fumbling around for ages. I hate myself too.
>tried to suggest suicide by radical 6
>>342937807Sigma and Diana do have their own epilogue files, but they're from different timeline.
>>342937807Phi gets one that implies she was raised by herself
>>342937896
Yeah, I discounted thosebecause they weren't from that timeline and you would have gotten them already.
>>342937948
Oh, didn't realise that file appeared at the end.
How do I fucking boot up this shit? It doesn't make any fucking sense
>>342938041
Start from the far left
Literally.
>>342938041You have to use the stun gun the most left. After that follow that guide.
PS: CUT BETTY
Turn on the one on the far left the do the sequence
>>342938041Activate the far left one first, then follow the instructions.
>>342929385
Wasn't the disaster in punchline caused by a meteor, not nukes?
>>342931549
WHAT 4 LETTER WORD MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH ROULETTE?
>>342938405
cockThere is also a note that tells you the order - not that you need it..
>>342937246I think Brother knowingly forced that Decision at the end as a "save point" in case they failed to catch the fanatic. If they die, they could potentially SHIFT back to that point and try again. Not necessarily limited to "shoot" or "don't shoot" either, he could shoot his legs or something. That said, Brother is a good guy, he's honestly one of my favorites in the series now.
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