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>>342892235
Non existent
>game tries to be a smart ass
>flops terribly
Nothing makes me happier
You'd know if you had been here at the time
>>342892235
They were pretty butthurt.
DmC is a good game, gameplay-wise. The characters and writing are fucking awful, especially Kat.
>>342892235
I laughed.
>>342892235
No joke it was pretty much this.
It got worst once people got their hands on the game.
>>342892235
Someone mailed Tameem a white wig to laugh at him and the game's garbage sales
>>342892383
A million seller can never be considered a flop, no matter how high the developer/publisher's hopes were.
>>342892510
lmao u srs?
DMCfags were BTFO. It was glorious.
>>342892383
This tbqh
I usually hate when /v/ as a whole takes on that "videogames are SHIT XD" mentality and being glad a game flops, but considering in this case the game's creator acted like a massive cunt, I was pretty happy with how the whole thing turned out.
>not in a million sales
>>342892383
>Flop
It didn't though, at least not in sales
Good game. Would love a sequel, probably won't get it though. No attachment to the pre-reboot games here.I'm 33 so it's not my ageFUCK YOU
>>342893297
The TGS version looked so much better, though.
>inb4 DANTE WOULD NEVER SMOKE!!1
>>342892235
I personally laughed.
/v/ blew it out of proportion like everything else.
Pretty shit game praised by youtubersjournalists
>>342892387
Great work detective
I liked the game, but like all other dmc games I feel they have 0 replayability if you ask me
>>342892235
I'd find it funnier if I didn't know the devs unironically despise the old Dante
>>342892235
If they just made that as a simple sort of homage/reference or whatever I'd be ok with it. I'm not ok with how they made it all about LMAO OLD DANTE WAS SHIT IM THE NEW BEST DUDE LOL FUCK YOU
Also, as much as I love the old games, DmC isn't that terrible. The characters are incredibly bad, but the game is alright, and the music is top notch. NOISIA did a good job on the soundtrack.
>>342893883
the music was okay
i dont know why people say its so good
>>342892235
>Gets blown the fuck out by HD collection
Everyone was laughing their asses off
>>342893972
I was into NOISIA's stuff before playing it, so that may have something to do with it. Still, Hunter's and Mundu's themes are some of my favorite songs in the whole series, older games included.
>>342893883
I really liked the Lillith stages
And on a sidenote, Phineas was a pretty good character, which I never see mentioned in any discussion of the game
>>342894187
phineas was the clock dude or whatever right?
i think people forget about him when they realize he was pointless in the story
all he did was tell dante that vergil was gonna try to take over
to which dante completely ignored
Donte>Vergil
Soy donte el chinga demonios
>>342894360
Donte>Nero
Is what I meant, dang it, it's so easy to mix those up
>>342892573
>>342893006
do you have proof on these sales?
>>342894452
Nero is easily better than Donte.
>>342892628
yes
this was back when this flop was first released and before a HD port was announced
>>342894575
It's been brought up in DmC threads before, you go look in the archives instead
>>342894575
They literally announced it. Multiple times.
>>342894452
Nero was just a young Dante though
>>342894695
Nero is so forgettable that they get rid of him halfway through the game when they gave up on the game
>>342894178
>noisia
https://youtu.be/yTeE2Jeu5Kk
>>342894575
More like
>Play
DMC 3: SE
DMC 4: SE
DMC
>Optional
DmC: SE
DMC 3
DMC 4
>Avoid
DmC
DMC 2
>>342893883
>and the music is top notch.
the wubstep was fucking horrible
>>342894839
Without the fun and crazy, he was just in angst crying about Kyrie or whatever the fuck her name was
>>342894730
fucking madman
>>342894936
It's Drum and Bass you retard
>>342894913
>>342894575
Meme lists
>>342894732
but it is counting only DmC or DmC and it's HD port?
>>342894825
and yet no links
>>342894913
you have DmC in optional, you list is bait.
>>342895035
it's WUBS
>>342894913
>Implying DmC:SE really fixed issues
no amount of patching in the game will make it not play like shit
>>342892235
Didn't even play the game at release, I got legit mad.
Then with all the rumors of an actual DMC5 and Ninja Theory going to shit, I pirated the definitive edition.
Sure thing, it's not my favorite DMC. It's the second one right after DMC3. 4 had probably the best gameplay this genre ever had, but it was half a game with fanfic-tier story. This one is easily a better game overall.
Now I'm sad because Vergil gameplay in the DLC was fucking golden and they set the beginning of an actually interesting story; a new DmC with NT artstyle and level design and Capcom gameplay would be the best, but we all know Capcom is so poor it can't outsource shit anymore.
>>342894913
this nigga is right
>>342894913
honestly i didn't even mind DMC2. Lucia a funher campaign is boiled shit, but her moves are fun
>>342895070
Why is it a meme?
because DmC and it's port are at the bottom like where they rightfully belong?
>>342895074
>but it is counting only DmC or DmC and it's HD port?
If I remember correctly, it had barely went past a million sales before the HD port, and then went to 1.5 with the hd port or something like that
>>342895074
DmC:SE is pretty good, especially with the Classic Dante skin
>>342895097
While the writing is still pretty shit, the Definitive Edition is nearly perfect.
>>342894730
>Adonlandes
>>342892573
It can for Capcom. Unless it made 2 million, it's considered a flop.
>>342895185
Because anyone who lists DmC in the same tier as DMC2 probably never played either DmC or both of them
>>342895332
its really not though
in comparison to the other games its still slow and clunky
>>342895145
>Story of DmC and Vorgil's Angst
>Anything but utter dogshit
>>342892573
They had to constantly decrease the expected sold
>>342895074
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html
Click all and search it up.
1.7mil last recorded 3 years ago so its likely more by now.
>3 years ago
TIme fucking flies.
>>342894913
>>342895427
>Didn't play the game: the post
the only redeeming feature of DMC: DMC: DMC is the Meh review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJOB1XRsqC8
>>342895097
Sorry, but it's not true. It has legitimately delicious gameplay if you're a lover of the genre.
If you're still butthurting, that's another matter and I can respect your choice
>>342895541
>Emptyhero
pass
>>342895224
>DmC:SE is pretty good, especially with the Classic Dante skin
>especially with the Classic Dante skin
giving Donte white hair does not automatically make DmC good.
>>342895541
>Youtube reviews
>>342892235
Anger, but at that point 90% of us were riding the Vergilsaurus and baby tears train too hard to get too upset.
>>342895603
its really not though
most other games in the genre do what it tries but better
the closest thing it does to something new is its combos when you change weapons
which isnt much since you can only do specific combos
most if not all complaints people had with the game werent even addressed
>>342895408
>clunky
Only if you're bad at the game.
>>342895541
>Not the Mexican Donte Novella vids
>>342895741
>slow animations that jump to the next attack with no fluid motion are the players fault
>>342892235
You tell me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyUArTDYYVc
>>342895640
Again, the writing is still shit.
>squirrel semen
>bigger dick
>all of Kat's backstory
But it's great as far as everything else is concerned.
>>342895970
>But it's great as far as everything else is concerned.
the gameplay was total ass in the Demo and footage of the full game and it's HD port looks like they changed fucking nothing
>>342896051
Its okay though becuase you have to rebuy the game several months after release for a couple of fixes
>>342896051
>literally hasn't played it beyond the demo
Kill yourself
>>342896164
the actual game wasnt that different
people spouting stupid shit like ITS NOT THE FINAL PRODUCT are retarded since the game still had all the flaws the demo did
>>342896164
if the demo was shit, why would I play the full game?
The demo is supposed to give you a sample of what the final product is. If the demo is shit, the final product is going to be shit.
>>342895515
I did, it was shit.
>Everything that comes out of Dante's mouth
>Virgil is literally anonymous
>Fox news and Corporations are EEEEEEEVIL
>75% of the game is go to place because Virgil gave a plot ticket, defeat evil lacky, repeat.
>Shoot a pregnant woman and then gloat to the father's face about how fun it was.
>Virgil is shown to be completely fucking awful at combat until suddenly he's not.
>'oops did I forget to mention I'm actually EEEEEEEVIL'
>Virgil the hedgehog
>GRRRRR EVERYONE LOVES DONTE MORE THAN ME
>THE MAKES ME SOOOOOOOOOO MAD
>SOOOOOO MAD THAT I'M GOING TO MURDER IMAGINARY VERSIONS OF ALL OF THEM
>Now I've reached level 10 on the evil meter, now I can control demons
>The end
Most fanfiction holds up better.
>>342894575
>DMC2 over DmC
haha no, DmC is trash but DMC2 is unburnable trash.
>>342895427
>Vergil going berserk
>he wants to kill Dante and conquer the world
>Dante finally stopped being a massive dickhead by the end of the game
>As symbolized by his white hair
>he went from trying to fuck a girl while jerking around, to protecting humanity
>demons are now a reality for humans too
>next game would be set in the middle of a civil war between demons and humans, with Vergil heading the demons and Dante fighting with the resistance
>not a decent concept/setting if developed the right way
It's a setting so interesting I actually hope they keep the whole war concept for the real DMC5.
>>342896946
why would a concept from a shitty unrelated game be used for DMC5?
>>342895901
>that moment were Virgil announces he's basically Dr. Evil and Dante/Kat just kinda stare at him blankly
I laughed so fucking hard I didn't even notice the boss started when I first played.
>>342896267
>>342896536
Except you're talking about the standard edition demo. Plus, you're probably shit at the game.
>>342896558
Sounds like you just did a retelling of the ingame cutscenes more than an actual playthrough
>>342897046
>Except you're talking about the standard edition demo.
and the HD port doesn't look like they did fuck all to the combat. They had more important things to do like removing a fedora
>>342897046
the DE didnt fix anything really
and no I'm not shit at the game
>HEY GUYS WE ADDED LOCK ON YOU WERE UPSET ABOUT THAT RIGHT?
>what does it change?
>WELL NOTHING BUT ITS THERE AND YOU WANTED IT RIGHT?
not to mention the demo was something put out to sell people to the game
if you put out a demo that isnt worth playing why would people go "well it sucked but im sure that the full game is good"
>>342896051
>played literally a beta
>game had an actual release
>plus a fucking re-release fixing everything wrong with it, except the story (which was always cringeworthy in Devil May Cry in the first place)
>b-but it was bad in the demo!
>>342896638
DMC2 is just PAINFULLY mediocre. And it's better when you play as Lucia, but only barely.
Lucia be fine as hell.
>>342897257
the demo's problems were in the final version though
>>342897136
They added Turbo and Hardcore modes, Bloody Palace, and lock-on. They also tweaked color-coded enemies.
>>342897257
and final footage and the HD port showed that it was still as bad as the demo.
What are you not getting?
>>342897018
Because it's better than anything Capcom can ever hope to shit from their asses.
See: all the other DMC games, plus pretty much every Capcom game on the last 5 years
>>342897412
>tweaked the color-coded enemies
they should have just removed the gimmick
>>342897230
They added hardcore mode, which makes it more difficult to get good style ranks - which is exactly what DMC fans were complaining about.
>>342897134
name one plot relevant thing that occurred during gameplay
>>342892235
if kojima did this in one of his mgs games you guys would never stop applauding
>>342897534
I agree.
>>342897569
the hardcore mode if I recall just made it so you can only do damage when you have a high rank
then tweaked the overall style meter
that being said why would I spend money on this
>>342897480
The fact /v/ still shit on games that people here never ever tried.
Nothing changed in the last 6 years
>people like 4 more than little m
At least little m want trying to be the safest most generic shit ever
The story and characters being shit aside, is the gameplay at all decent? I've already played dmc4 and mgr and It doesn't seem like there are any better action games on steam.
>>342892235
FUCK YOU
>>342897530
>Because it's better than anything Capcom can ever hope to shit from their asses.
except all the DMCs shit on DmC
>>342897696
>that being said why would I spend money on this
yeah, when I can buy games that are better than DmC/DmC:HD
>>342897696
>why would I spend money on anything?
>>342897734
Most people got it on PSN+ since it was "free" for a while on there
keep in mind the game was still an unbalanced broken piece of shit and made sure that no one wanted to get the DE version
>>342897285
Lucia does improve the game a bit but DMC2 Dante's "just use guns, idiot" wasn't fun at all.
Mind you, DMC1 had a fair few enemies that could only be damaged with guns and those sucked ass too.
Series only really got great with DMC3.
>>342897534
Why? Because it wasn't there in the originals?
It's a fucking way to force you to become good with all the weapons, or you'll just spam the red axe and Rebellion
just kinda chuckled
was more upset when I found out his devil trigger didn't turn him into much of a devil
I figured we'd moved past that after 1 but alright I guess
>>342897861
DMC 2 sucked dick, man.
>>342897778
It's bearable if you turn on Turbo. Even with it though it's still slow as balls and color coded enemies slow it down even more.
It's also easy as fuck even on high difficulties.
I'd put it slightly above God of War.
>>342897995
>DMC 2 sucked dick, man.
and yet better than DmC
>>342892573
>>342893006
DmC sold worse than DMC2
>>342897910
>force you to get good with all weapons
is it even possible to get bad with these weapons?
everything just stuns enemies and does shit tons of damage to them
on top of that most the enemies take 20 minutes to attack and do it at a snails pace
the gimmick just stops the flow of combat
the worst part is that in the beginning all you have for blue weapons is that shit scythe which can take up to minutes to kill blue enemies
they are fucking atrocious
>>342897910
>or you'll just spam the red axe and Rebellion
No you wouldn't, because have ~6 weapons at your disposal that you could reliably combo into meant that when DmC let you be CUH-RAZY, it got pretty fucking crazy.
Colour Enemies cut that into half.
Especially on higher difficulties where you need to land a Devil Dodge to kill the blue enemies in any time faster than a fucking era, the blue weapons were obviously only meant to augment combos, not be primary damage dealers.
>>342898035
Are there any better stylish action games on pc you'd recommend over it?
>>342897861
DMC1 aged so badly the camera is still the most dangerous enemy in the game.
There's nothing to say about DMC2, and DMC4 was half a game with tremendous backtracking and a plot so cringeworthy it looks like some Saturday morning 90s anime.
At least DmC is a full game, that also didn't age like utter crap.
>>342897759
>At least little m wasn't trying to be the safest most generic shit ever
Did we play the same fucking game? Or is being edgy save the bland 'Corporations bad, Rebel Teen good' plot and watered down gameplay?
>>342898048
Nah, you're just a fanboy
>>342893883
Did you people even play the game?
He says one line when it falls on his head saying somewhat cockishly that it isn't his style. It fit the character, it was to poke fun at it, because even the developers knew it looked a little silly, and then they moved on. It is never mentioned again.
Can any of you guys take a joke? Damn.
>>342898278
not really
DMC1 was a different game
it was just for more RE fans and still plays fine
DMC4 while being half a game still had miles better combat and presentation
and pretty much everything
>>342898254
>cut
No they didn't. Only a bunch of enemies are color-based, did you play the game?
>>342898278
>that also didn't age like utter crap.
because it was released as a turd.
>>342898308
Fanboy? because I rightfully call DmC shit?
>>342898273
You can mod PC DMC3 to be pretty great.
Killer is Dead is alright.
>>342898278
The camera in 3 wasn't great either. Still a great game tho
>>342896946
DMC Vergil isn't a comic book villain though
He doesn't want to lead demons and conquer the world to subjugate humanity, he just wants the strength to protect the things he cares about
>>342898323
>never in a million years
>by the time the game ends, his hair is completely white
>his DT form has white hair
it's a joke that was cringeworthy at best, and makes no sense by the end of the game.
All it does is make the devs and the writers look like complete tossers
>>342898430
Yes, it cut it in half. When fighting those enemies. Because we are talking about the coloured enemies and why nobody in their right mind liked them.
Jesus fuck, do I have to spell this out for you?
>>342898404
>combat
Absolutely
>presentation
Not even remotely. Let's be onset, art direction was the only thing ninja theory got right
>>342898528
I just wanted to throw something in there
its less then half
you cant use rebellion on them either
>>342892752
>I usually hate when /v/ as a whole takes on that "videogames are SHIT XD
I hate this too. I wish /v/ would stop it. It's like watching a loser laugh at a slightly-less-loser.
When it comes to DmC I guess I'm okay with the outcome, I generally hate reboots.
>>342894962
nice job spreading lies
>>342898435
DmC, while shit, is still much better than DMC 2.
>>342892573
>A million seller can never be considered a flop
It can if the development budget is high enough
>>342898323
>HURR IST JUST A JOKE GUISE
No, fuck you. Humor has no place in video games, it is the most serious form of entertainment. You don't see fucking Happy Gilmore made into a game, do you? Or Anchorman, or Dumb and Dumber, or any great comedy of the last 20 years?
Fuck off.
>>342898653
and its ruined by the huge amounts of color filter they put on it
>>342898747
nice meme
>>342894962
>without the things he did for 2/3rd's of the game he's just the things he did for 1/3rd of the game
Yup.
I thought it was funny, but then again DmC was my first Devil May Cry game andis still the only Devil May Cry game I've played
As far as action games go its deeper than Metal Gear Rising mechanically so I was somewhat confused on why people don't like it. But I'm going to assume its because
>forced to use certain weapons on specific enemies
>story and characters are edgy as fuck
>combat is not as fast as other Devil May Cry games and doesn't emphasize doing cuhrayzee combos nearly as much
>not as good as other Devil May Cry games
One of my friends says that Devil May Cry 2 is still worse than DmC though.
On another note, I really like the environments and art design in DmC. I like how everything changes as you move through it. I fully intend to play other DMC games though. Not sure if I should start with 3 or 4 though.
>>342898521
>what is irony
>>342898435
Nah, because your personal affection to this series makes the subject too much sensitive for you to express an actually unbiased opinion.
Really anon, there's nothing more
>>342898323
That would be a fair point, were it not for other moments before the game released, where Ninja Theory gave a Powerpoint Presentation in which they compared Dante to an 80s hair metal band and gay cowboys
how many people here get physically ill at the nightclub stage?
just replayed the game after a few years, and I get headaches, dizziness and I feel like the flashy lights and bloom might give me epilepsy
>>342898808
I actually thought DMC 2 was unfinished as I was playing and when I beat it.
>>342898879
DMC2 is debatable
it had some really cool boss designs (outside the helicopter and tank)
and it paved the way to the style system
DmC basically just removed everything everyone liked about the series
Here guise,I just summerised DmC's "incredible" level of writing for those that didn't play it
https://youtu.be/yP-UqnXSGDk?t=1m10s
>>342898048
nice meme
>>342898879
Start with 3. And 2 is way worse than DmC
>>342898685
Great.
Fucking Heavenly Blade. Nobody liked that game, why would you bring elements of it into your DMC project?
>>342898776
Ninja Theory's dev budgets are pretty low, their mission statement is to bring back the AA scene.
Just that Capcom expected the brand to sell much, much more.
>>342898879
Go through the whole series. 1-3 are available in HD on the PS3, would recommend that version. 4, might as well get SE on the PC, but it doesn't add much over the vanilla version.
If the idea is to get an idea of DMC as a whole, that's what you'll want to do. Else your two cents aren't going to be worth much.
>>342899115
>3 is worse
nope
>>342898879
It's biggest sin is that it's just so fucking slow and easy to break.
>>342898065
DMC 2 sold better than 1 and 3 IIRC.
>>342899245
What?
who was hyped by the DmC demo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdlDUwqmtJ0&index=8&list=WL
>>342899337
its really not
The only way to play it is in spanish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyUArTDYYVc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPKHxbOg19s
>>342899342
I think he meant to say 2 but he fucked up.
>>342899360
>play the demo
>boss becomes literally unbeatable since the game wont let me rip her whatever out
hyped as fuck
>>342892235
funny. one of the best times on /v/ period.
>>342898879
>DMC 4 begins with an half demon dude dressed with a red trench coat, shooting the pope in the middle of the face
>you can fucking hear an unironic "nothing personnel"
>but DmC is the edgy game
I will never get this
>>342892573
is this you?
>>342899502
becuase the beginning of DMC4 is to paint dante as the bad guy
on top of that its instantly wiped away by the rest of the scene
>>342899434
Stop this meme pls
>>342899021
Except it didn't. The combos were still there, along with an admittedly neutered speed (Turbo Mode fixes this), and the writing is shit as per usual.
Kat < Lucia, though
>>342899737
que te jodan!
>>342899502
nice cherry pick, asshat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oL29x7Reh8
>>342899175
>Ninja Theory's dev budgets are pretty low, their mission statement is to bring back the AA scene.
they want to be AAA from the start. they make AA because money dont just grow on trees.
you can appear much cheaper with an AA budget. Look at spider soft games.
>>342899745
yeah it did
the combos were greatly reduced
the style system was taken out as a whole
dante has to straight up stop between every attack to let you think about the next thing you do
color coded enemies
retarded controls (HOLD the button to use weapon, TWO jump buttons. ect.)
bosses boil down to just QTEs
greatly reduced amount of attacks in general
there isnt any of the fluid combat from the old game even in turbo mode
not that anyone cares since they decided you have to REBUY the game to get it
I've never played any DmC games before is 3 SE a good place the best place to start?
>>342896946
>he went from trying to fuck a girl while jerking around, to protecting humanity
Literally the last shot of the game is him grabbing Kat's ass.
>>342899402
The fucking badly edited sombrero in the HUD gets me every time.
Although these golden videos do highlight the potential for an edgy Mexican hack n slash.
>>342899649
Yeah it the whole DMC aesthetic is built around the stereotype of what was cool in Japan during the 90s.
Which is something I love, I truly fucking do anon, but it's also unfortunately the kind of stuff that gets defined as "edgy" today, at least on this board.
>>342900023
The best place*
>>342892235
>"FUCK YOU"
>>342899024
>edgy teen
>demon, which by definition are edgy
I see nothing wrong with the dialog, given the characters.
>>342899910
>Both sides open fire
>They both have the aim of storm troopers
>>342898048
wrong. nothing is worse than DMC 2. nothing.
>>342899387
Better than 3.
>>342900094
>>342899913
>>342899803
Man, they really missed the point.
>>342892235
>missing one of the biggest shitstorm known to man
what a newfag
>>342900046
Wait so to protect humanity you have to stop getting pussy? The fact uncle Dante is still a virgin doesn't mean Donte should stop fucking girls
>>342900009
>the style system was taken out as a whole
>dante has to straight up stop between every attack to let you think about the next thing you do
Liar.
Also
>bosses boil down to just QTEs
Is bullshit. Tons if other bosses in many games "boil down to" that.
>>342899402
>Señor Sombrero Salsero
>>342895427
>Story of DmC and Vérgin's Angst
>bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyUArTDYYVc
>yfw no DMC5
I miss Dante so so much ; ;
>>342900403
>the style system was taken out as a whole
What I ment was the style switching you twit
>dante has to straight up stop between every attack to let you think about the next thing you do
Post a video or webm/gif of him doing a basic combo and you tell me he isnt slowing down/stopping after every attack
>Is bullshit. Tons if other bosses in many games "boil down to" that.
the only one that this happened to was savior in 4
remember me?
>>342900208
DMC1
>>342894695
holy shit I'm playing this for years and didn't know I could do that
>>342900339
>implying uncle Donte is a virgin
>the joke was actually that dante's hair does turn white by the end of the game so he's the fool
>people got massively butthurt and thought it was ninja theory making fun of white hair
>>342900569
fuck you con man.
don't you have Red Ash to ruin?
>>342900660
after the PR this game had?
no it really wasnt
>>342900553
>b-but I meant the style SWITCHING
>do my work for me
>many games
>tries to keep it within the DMC series
>>342897257
Can we take a moment to discuss that years later there are STILL DmC shills on /v/?
>>342892235
I loved the united, continued hatred of this game. After the game came out people basically stated it would've been decent if it wasnt trying to be DMC but man, tameem was such a twat; so were the journalists shoving it down people's throats.
Its probably the first time I really noticed a wide spread statement about 'those entitled gamers!!'
>>342900208
Holy shit
I spent half an hour doing that drawing to troll /v/ like 4 years ago
Why the hell is people still posting it
>>342900802
Its funny that you cant actually retort
becuase style switching WAS not in the game
and donte does stop mid combos
and that none of the games in the same series have boss qtes except one
DmC as a stand-alone game isn't bad, but it's a meme to hate on the game and the last thing someone on /v/ wants to do is have a differing opinion
>>342900932
>My points are right
>even though they don't fit the debate
>hue hue hue
>>342900660
This
>make an ironic joke about a character who grows up to be Uncle Dante shit-talking Uncle Dante's fashion sense, just how EVERY teenager swears they'll never grow up to be adult they eventuall become
>people think it's the devs' opinion of Uncle Dante
>>342901016
no it was a pretty bad game
the game had a high chance to become unbeatable on most bosses
>>342900870
>half an hour to do that
im impressed.
>>342900870
>4 years ago
Ha yeah righ-
>DmC released 3 and a half years ago
Oh no
>>342901016
>the last thing someone on /v/ wants to do is have a differing opinion
Fucking this. It's beginning to become sickening
>>342901089
>even though they don't fit the debate
except the debate is that they removed all the shit from the old games people liked about it
you are the ones trying to throw random shit in like it matters
>>342901205
re-read
>>342899745
I'm nearly convinced that you're just a shitposter
>>342901016
Why call it DMC if it is going to dumb down everything? Ninja Theory continues to make mediocre gameplayand that's being generousand they needed help from Capcom to even get the combat to where it ended up.
If it was a first attempt from a small studio, I would've been excited about the sequel. From Ninja Theory, it was more mediocre gameplay with a fucking idiotic story
Some cool art design though
>>342897257
>fixing everything wrong with it
still has the color coding problem
>y-you can damage enemies with other colors!
75% of normal damage, and no hit stun
still has various glitches
all the additions are PC mod tier at best
adds, lock-on but still has that retarded special melee button
you still have to see cutscenes after every phase like MGR
game is still easy as f to break
style system still works like DMC1
>>342901104
It's definitely their opinion.
>>342901334
re-read
>>342899021
>DmC basically just removed everything everyone liked about the series
>>342895148
Stop replying to yourself.
>>342901382
>Wow that loop syncs up pretty nice
>It's not a loop
>>342901382
>exploits mean a game is bad
>>342901531
>>342901334
on top of that we are still talking about it with the DMC series
not once is it ever stated that its not the case
>>342901552
That's not me, fuckwit.
>inb4 post a screenshot so I can say it's photoshopped
>>342901530
>Gay jokes are okay when I feel like it
God I hate faggots like Ninja Theory
>>342901530
Oh lord. This right here is the definition of cringe.
>>342901565
It depends on the exploit
if it requires some ridiculous bullshit to pull off it might be overlooked but this is just fucking retarded
>there are kids defending this shit in this very thread at this very momen
>>342901382
>people praised this
>>342901627
Excuse me?
>>342901469
Because
a.) Crapcom outsourced it
b.) Dumbed down argument is moot since it really isn't dumbed down
c.) NT actually made a effort with the combat compared to previous games they made
d.) Crapcom probably wanted to do a soft reboot of the series
>>342901565
>If you ignore the 500 exploits the game isn't that bad
>>342901481
>they didn't write a lore for E&I
couldn't even be arsed to say he learned guncraft by himself and custom made itBlue Rose - Nero
>>342901718
>waaah, I want non-pc jokes, but not when they do it about my husbando
Pot calling the kettle black
>>342901783
>500
>obviously a juvenile exaggeration
Underage.
>>342901764
at what point does the arguement leave just the DMC series
>>342901141
It's mostly traced, all I had to do was those shadows (a paint bucket tool fest to be honest) and the fatass, which is clearly really fucking bad
Even the nude Dante is traced, it's from some gay doujin if I remember correctly
I honestly spent more time researching and screenshoting all the bait content in the background
>>342901161
It feels like ages ago man. I was a student, now I have a work and an apartment
>>342901832
Man, those were the days.
Memes and hair colour aside, DmC def edition is better than DMC2. I can actually say this because I have played both games.
>>342901902
If you're trying to argue that DmC is worse than any DMC, you're dead wrong.
>>342901870
>he can't handle hyperbole
Your summer is showing.
>>342902020
so you really are just shitposting
>>342902028
>s-summer
Jesus.
>>342901530
Those are pretty clearly all about his Kingdom-Hearts-Tier jacket, not his haircut
>>342901768
>Dumbed down argument is moot since it really isn't dumbed down
>it really isn't dumbed down
>>342901907
>was a student, now I have a work and an apartment
>mfw still having the same shit job living with my parents. shitposting on 4chan.
>>342901868
Dante can be over the top, flamboyant and ridiculous in many different ways.. If you've played the games you realize this is okay. Meanwhile, they misunderstand everything about the series, and the jokes they tried to make were terrible.
Ninja Theory talks all the time about advancing story, games to a higher artistic media, but they use this as their example of what a game should be. Brokeback mountain with Dante in it. It's pathetic.
but when did i say I wanted non-pc jokes?
>>342902107
>It's okay when I name call but not you
Now who's underage?
>there are people still talking about DMC, DmC when both are deader than Onimusha
>>342901870
Quentin pls
>>342892573
It was one of the biggest blunders of the century.
>>342902172
>Greentexting
Reminder inafune was responsible for this since he told NT and tameem to make a more western dante when they came to him with a older uncle dante from 4.
Reminder people then gave him FOUR MILLION US DOLLARS
>>342895035
>I have never listened to drum and Bass
>>342892573
Yeah, ignore the costs going into development, advertising, paying for reviews...
The quick cash in sequel just proves the success
>>342902239
I did nothing to provoke such a response from an educated debater.
>>342902206
I'm not saying that the mock images were good, but I think you and most other people on /v/ seems to overreact and take these images out of context
>>342902404
Between this, killing Clover, ending Lost Planet and Mighty Number 9, Inafune's reputation is in the fucking gutter.
>>342902132
>Kingdom-Hearts-Tier
It's a fucking red leather duster
You could say that about the straps but that's assumingly where he keeps his weapons
>>342902404
What a westaboo.
>>342902475
>hurr, look at this pic
>someone who is good at getting style points from combat
>>342902287
1.7 million copies sold as of 3 years ago isn't really a flop anon, calm down your memes, battleborn is a flop
reunion in game form never in a million years
>>342898879
>deeper than MGR
Making it easier to look cool does not make it deeper.
>>342896558
>I did, it was shit
means
>I actually watched a gameplay on twitch or youtube
>>342902597
its from the demo
the boss got broken and laid down on the floor invincible
I could hit her all day and get points from it but it didnt do damage
so no
its not about being good at the game
>>342902597
Did you not read the top part first?
>>342902542
>lost planet 3
My anger for the whole of DmC passed long ago, this will never fucking subside. I loved the shit out of 2 and then he forced 3.
>>342902642
You still dont get that a flat number sold doesnt matter, it's about compared to dev cost and sales expectations.
>>342902597
>3 deaths
>Nearly 50 minutes
>Still get SSS
>>342902642
the 1.7 million sales are counting atleast 3 65-90% off in steam sales, humble bundles, twice free on PS+ and maybe once or twice on Games for gold too.
>>342902678
MGR really is a simple game though, and a bigger villain when it comes to QTE's
>>342902782
>146
Did qtes/platforming fuck him over? How?
>>342902542
He's also responsible to Swedecuck Your wife is an arm Bionic Commando reboot and Take A Suck Yaiba Gaiden.
>>342902820
As I said, from 3 years ago, you're talking about sales that went after a few months of pc release
>>342902941
the 3 years ago was when all them sales were and the PS+/GWG shit was as well. There has been a lot more sales for it since then too, but as you said only count the ones from 3 years ago.
>>342895074
>c.) NT actually made a effort with the combat compared to previous games they made
>Ninja Theory and Capcom are currently primarily focusing on tweaking the game’s combat, and making revisions to the various missions, and bringing the game’s art up to standard
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/04/16/capcom-giving-ninja-theory-frame-by-frame-guidance-on-dmc-devil-may-cry/#2ehpoCMfSeqsoObJ.99
Capcom had to bail them out. Go through the post game articles as well
At one point a Capcom dev is making fun of Ninja Theory making enemies with blades on their knees and elbows and how they would use them.
If Ninja Theory did their job, Capcom never would've had to help
>>342902282
You seem to be confusing me with someone else.
>>342903010
Cause Crapcom are too lazy to update their sales charts
>>342902642
Taking more than 3 years to reach 1 million in sales is terrible for a large company like Capcom. I can't believe people are trying to defend this
>>342903119
Nah, they just wanted to inflate the sales with the cheapest ways possible.
>>342903121
>Reading comprehension
>>342903157
So it's a bad thing?
It was the Mass Effect 3 of the series.
A steep outright decline in every possible way imaginable, with apologists to boot.
Game was and still is complete hot garbage.
>>342902551
>red leather duster
>studded shoulder bands
>gigantic M-shaped belt buckle
It was pretty tacky.
But that's also not really the point.
The point is, people outside NT (Saurian Dash, for instance, who worked with them briefly on some of it, or Kamiya who spoke with Tameem about it) have all said that they had the utmost respect for the franchise and worked hard to try and make an honest "westernization" in accordance with Capcom's wishes while still retaining the essence of the original series.
Did the game miss a lot of steps? Absolutely. Was it the worst DMC? Probably not (2 was a wreck) but definitely close. Did all of its "westernizations" work as intended? Not at all, many fell flat or made the character less likeable.
But, I think the idea that the game set out to shit-talk its predecessors at every turn is inaccurate and unfair. It may not have succeeded but it TRIED, it tried to be an honest DMC as best it could while making the changes Capcom demanded. They didn't FUCK YOU the series like they thought they could make all of the prior entries obsolete, which is the impression most people seem to have.
>>342902827
Not saying MGR is the deepest game out there, but DmC bottoms out as soon as you get Demon Dodge. It guarantees S ranks and destroys bosses.
MGR is much less exploitable and has many more mechanically interesting and varied enemies. Not to mention a higher threshold for S ranks.
>>342903197
when you're having to include people being given the GAME FOR FREE in your sales for the game? Yes it is.
>>342903216
Mass effect overall is a garbage series, let's not do stupid comparisons
>>342903294
I don't remember this happening during the steam release, and I for one was pretty pleasantly surprised of the somewhat early PC port as it was the only way I would ever touch this game
>>342903216
Mass Effect 3 was decent except for the ending and awful mission menu
>>342902527
I just think these pictures reveal a certain mindset; if i saw these without what they spewed out I would've thrown it to the side. With the game they developed though, I consider it just another piece of shit on the pile
>>342892573
>high budget
>only sold well after several price drops
>a remaster of old games sold better
We can define this as failure
>>342903253
...all of which is to say, the context for the "Dante is not / Dante is" presentation is about zeroing in on a fashion sense more suitable to western character who behaves like Dante. It's not "DURR FUCK UNCLE DANTE, WHAT A DORK" so much as it is "when a young western player thinks of a kick-ass smart-mouth renegade, they think of Tyler Durden, not a FFX cosplayer, so that's the aesthetic we need to focus on"
>>342903515
and throwing out all kinds of lore and things you did before. I would love one mission, then hate a bunch, then love a mission; you could tell where the new shitty writers were thrown in
>>342903495
It counted the games with gold for xbox and the PS+ for psn, since it only ever dropped to 90% at most on steam sales
>>342903253
>But, I think the idea that the game set out to shit-talk its predecessors at every turn is inaccurate and unfair.
The game itself did it at least once and the developers themselves went out of their way to multiple times. Not just the previous games but the very fucking fanbase.
>>342892235
Is that game where Dante makes a cameo, right?
>>342903515
If you ignore the background of characters, story, plot, decisions of any of the previous games, the copy and pasted "go to X base and play horde mode" missions and xdxdxd ninja who messages you like he's fucking 8 year's old
then yeah, you're right.
>>342903762
Yeah, it's obvious that they cant really deliver on the promise of having your decisions make a meaningful impact on later games. Neither DA or ME could hope to deliver.
>>342902527
What exactly do you think the alternative context is.
>>342903882
I should go back and finish Nocturne at some point
>>342903854
I played through the game twice and never noticed these stabs at either the DMC fanbase or old Dante. Just the banter about the blonde wig which turned out to be foreshadowing instead
>>342903936
Story and plot arent even that bad, nice try lumping them together like you're at all smart for doing it though. And the main story missions werent all like that either, it did effect the side ones though.
so yeah.
>>342903991
>either DA or ME could hope to deliver.
I remember when I was younger playing FFVI and CT and Star Ocean 2 and Lunar and Baldur's Gate thinking about how when technology got more advanced we would get just wider worlds with more paths, more options, more ways to complete tasks and missions and quests and games that would just take years to complete.
Instead we get "better" graphics and 3 options at the very end
>>342904130
As i said it was the developers themselves, not just in game.
>>342904095
This other anon explained it much better than I could >>342903685
Old DMC fanbase is a very small target in terms of sales demographic
>>342904259
Well, you did say ingame, and that's the point I was arguing against
>>342904375
I said at least once in game, which was the wig which has it's points for or against, but the multiple other times were out of it.
>>342904489
Well yeah, if you take that cutscene out of context out of what happens later in the game, then it's just silly banter
>>342903685
>is about zeroing in on a fashion sense more suitable
What does that have to do with Brokeback Mountain? What's the context there? Couldn't pick ANY other movie with cowboys for some reason? You, know, since it's something about fashion? What's that "context", do tell
>>342904191
I remember playing FF7 as a 10 year old kid and imaging how games would be in 10+ years, man was I in a rude awakening now when all games feels like uncomplete messes hidden behind paywalls like DLC, """expansions""", shitty deadlines forcing devs to push out unfinished games that needs to be patched and shit for 2+ months before it's "stable"
>>342904608
That's if you're only willing to give them the benefit of the doubt in saying they always intended to go that route. It's clear they didnt want to do the whole wapanese white hair shit again, but they caved later on and said "Look, he's got white hair and a red coat now, so love the game now"
I doubt that's the idea they always wanted to implement for his DT.
>>342903685
So their demographic was, in order,
>people who like emo teenagers out to kill the world in found-footage movies
>rock stars but not ones with too much personality or discernible styling
>people who like Fight Club but missed the entire point of the movie, even though our target age is probably too young to even know about it
>western emos instead of anime nerds
And don't forget,
>we want the gay cowboy audience
Do you seriously think that presentation was intended to showcase the group they wanted playing their game, and not at all involved making fun of the old Dante?
>>342902269
Nothing is deader than Onimusha.
>>342904902
Well, that argument is kinda pointless since we won't know for sure unless some NT dev comes out and says how the DT development went
>>342905107
It's a pretty valid theory considering how unabashed they were with slamming the old games and fanbase at every turn in development.
>>342905036
The games we love from N64 Rare
>>342905198
As long as we agree that it's a theory
>>342905320
And we agree it isnt pointless
>>342892235
>>342892383
The game ends with him having white hair man.
I think /v/ never bothered to add 1+1 and realize that the joke wasn't aimed at DMCfags but at Donte himself, he acted like a smartass and ended up with white hair.
I enjoyed this game. It was funny.
>>342905371
It kinda is now 3-4 years later when both NT and Capcom has forgotten about both DmC and DMC
>>342905548
>HD remaster of both DmC and DMC4SE
>DMC4SE sold fucking exceptionally well as well
>>342905548
Not really since the whole debacle serves as an example in many ways the price of all their poor decisions
>>342905626
>oh my, a lazy made in one year cash grab grabbed some crash
>this series isn't dead
wish I had the optimism you had
>>342905626
DMC4SE is a sad thing, capcom just see it as a easy cashgrab, not as a fan wanting more DMC games
>>342905668
I doubt that many people outside of /v/ really bothered to watch that slideshow
>>342905959
Then you'd be wrong judging from the numerous articles and videos about it.
>>342892383
Yet ironically it's a good game, unlike Metal Gear Rising, a game /v/ sucks off.
>>342905857
Yep,it was just fanservice
>>342906037
I don't really bother with clickbait or "gaming """""journalism""""" so you might be right
>>342906134
>>342906229
MGR's camera is shit.
>>342906134
Because memes and Kamiya/Platinum cocksucking
>tfw enjoyed playing this game
>>342906208
I am, and yes it was bad.
>>342906229
Should replace the MGR quote with "The memes"
Been replaying dmc4:se lately.
Why is it so hard to get style points as Lady? I spent more time fucking around trying to shoot the guy with every move then actually hurting people. Then I hop into Trish and suddenly its sss erryday, its uncanny.I have 54 webms, but 0 of lady. Where are the lady webms?
>tfw you really enjoyed the game a lot
>>342906414
>bart get out im piss.webm
>>342906289
MGR is garbage
>>342906505
>such concentration
>SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM UWAHH
I laughed, then kept playing DMC wasn't the best of the series, but really, I didn't have high hopes.
Still fun though.
>>342906414
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asHIWNbQ0vA
this guy has some Lady bits in his combo vids
>>342904101
I remember those threads where that anon was playing all those smt games. Man, those were the days.
>>342905857
A cashgrab they helped them hit 100% increased profits. That sends a message to the board that there clearly is love and want for a new game.
DmC writing is Shakespearean.
>>342906810
In a world where I wasn't pessimistic about Capcom, then yeah, but too bad Capcom are one of the worst companies right now
One of my favorites.
Imagine a world with cuhrayzee coop. What a world to live in.
>>342906981
Yeah good luck getting /cgg/ back
>>342906484
Infinitely better than DmC: Delicious monkey Cum.
>>342907051
>Actual screnshot of a /cgg/ poster during the latest AGDQ
>>342907051
>/cgg/ is completely dead
>/cygg/ is completely dead
>/ksg/ is about 3000 threads deep
How the fuck do they do it?
>>342906973
Capcom sort of stopped being complete cunts the last couple of years, but no way are they as bad as inafunes con cept company where he profited by pure capcom hatred for shit he pulled.
>>342907146
Nice meme
>>342905036
http://gematsu.com/2016/02/onimusha-revival-discussions-happening-high-levels-capcom
>>342907342
Keep crying Quentin.
>>342907339
>Capcom sort of stopped being complete cunts the last couple of years
What is the latest Street fighter PC port for 200 please
>>342907342
>"I've never played MGS2"
Memes have always been a thing in metal gear m8
>>342907441
what is sort of.
>>342907507
>Using memes in your games ironically or unironically
Jesus christ
>>342907313
Autism, duh.
>>342907313
/cgg/ was on lifesupport for a longass time before it died, the threads were alive only for the reason of keeping it alive and some diehards bumping it from page 9-10
How exactly does DMC 4 Special Edition implement different characters?
Do you just run through the main game with a different character? Story completely unchanged?
I don't expect characters to get their own story, I'm just curious if you go through the same missions or if they get some sort of special mode each or something.
>>342893974
>PS3...NOGAEMS
>>342907313
What even are those latter two?
>>342908214
Cyber games, mostly EYE Divine Cybermancy
Katawa Shojo, that one visual novel about sticking your dick in a girl with no arms
>>342908365
>>342907313
More like "kill (your)self general"
>anons saying old dmc games are clunky in comparison while also saying people don't like DmC because they suck at it
>anyone ever dickswinging about how good they are at DmC
Just stop it. Your aren't fooling anyone. DmC was fun for a playthrough but combat was casualized to hell and back.
>>342909078
>DmC was fun for a playthrough
Pretty much the same for every DMC game I played, except for 2, fuck DMC2
>>342909597
2 was the only I couldn't get through because of how boring it is. One of the only games I own that I can't bring myself to finish. 4 is the one I replayed the shit out of. Lost count how many times.
>all these people saying how 2 is shit
seems like i am the only person who prefers 2 over 1
>>342909959
Sad thing is that DMC2 is probably what killed the series, at least in Capcom's interest, a lot of people probably had tons of disbelief in the series after 2 and it shows on the DMC3 sales (even though it probably is the best DMC game)
>>342910051
its probably becuase of it being a huge step backwards
it had pretty much worse overall everything
>super linear
>terrible combat
>unbalanced guns
>silent dante
>tank and helicopter
I liked somethings in it like most boss designs but it was horrible
Prease buy our game, Devil may Cry (TM) /v/. There's still hope for a sequel if you all pitch in and buy our game.
>>342910179
The bosses and enemies were pretty cool too. All they needed was to copy the combat from the first.
It's amazing how I never going to stop being butthurt about this fucking game.
>>342908198
You get 3 characters, Trish/Lady and Vigil. Trish/Lady do the Nero/Dante thing, where you play through the entire game until mission 12, then swap off until 19, then back to Lady to finish the fight. Virgil does the whole campaign himself.
Both new campaigns get a single new intro cutscene, and nothing else. You just power through the game, back to back missions with no cutscenes. The game just sort of ends on mission 20 with the same ending cutscene.
Lady is basically Gunslingers from dmc3, Dual Pistols, Shotgun, Rocket Launcher, and her dt gauge gets replaced with grenades, dealing more damage to everything around her the more bars you have filled.
Trish is closer to swordmaster, with Pandora and a pair of pistols being her ranged options. She can throw out Sparda to hover on an enemy and shred him, letting her do some kickboxing and lightning based kicks/punches. She's Dante when she's got the weapon, and Beowulf when you throw it out.
Virgil is the darkslayer style from this game, only as his own character with 3 weapons, Force Edge, Katana, Beowulf. Lots of teleporting fast swordspam, overpowered as fuck but who gives a shit he's fun to play.
>>342910772
Here's a virgil webm as well, I don't have one for Lady.
>>342910924
How do these things stay alive for so long?
I always kill them with one air combo!
>>342892235
WOW
>>342910772
>>342910924
Thanks bruv, that sounds pretty rad.
I guess I'm going to go ahead and get it while it's on sale, no point in waiting until Winter sale to maybe get it for 5 bucks less.
>>342911104
Certain enemy's in the bloody palace just don't fucking die.
or modified game clients. I know you can make enemies invincible somehow, through some file shenanigans.
>people don't remember that based line by ghost dante to virgin
>You don't belong anywhere, guess that's why you're here, well that and because i killed you.
>>342911593
No problem friend.
I honestly thought donte's edge was to cheesy to hate.
>that time where virgin straight up shot that demon bitch and killed her unborn baby
>donte even says what the fuck
>>342911603
>ertain enemy's in the bloody palace just don't fucking die.
nah, they all have pretty small healthbars, the only one that takes too long is blitz and with both Nero and Dante you can cheese them down to instakill scenarios.
99% of the time it's cheatengine or spoilerAL, then you just pause, alt-tab to turn it off, then edit out the pause screen on the kill.
That's one reason I don't like SE, even on DMD the enemies just fall like dominos, vergil just cuts down health bars like butter and lady with a lvl.3 shotgun tanks through entire bosses
I also don't see how capcom expected people to take vergil seriously when DT Vergil shits all over him in every way, if you had all of DT Vergil's movement options that'd be godlike
>mfw people are defending DmC
Is there any easier way to tell when to stop taking someone seriously on /v/?
>>342912205
>That's one reason I don't like SE, even on DMD the enemies just fall like dominos,
Wait, what?
So they changed how much health enemies get in Special Edition? Or is that specific to Vergil and Lady?
That may or may not be a dealbreaker.
>>342913132
Enemy health doesn't change but Vergil eats through enemies if you're good with him.
>>342913132
No, health is the same as vanilla, I can still do a few reps with Dante on a fully DT'd enemy and still end up slashing their health.
Vergil just puts out a million hitboxes a second, and lady with a fully charged shotgun is akin to getting a few fully charged just guards. In Lady's case you have to bullshit around for about 30 seconds before you can shit out damage, for the most part you'll be using her guns which is just normal damage, or you can be a sitting duck with the rocket launcher which is even more stronger than the shotty but you lose the ability to jump or move
>>342913301
>>342913375
Fair enough, so Vergil is overpowered but fun like mentioned before and Lady's thing is situational, that's good.
>>342892235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEEaNkZbJnE
Pretty much this.
>>342900249
You did not count dmc3 se sales
The original was fucked up in difficulty
>>342907720
Memes didn't mean the same thing they mean now as they did before
a meme was a telling or idea passed trough people and generations
from simple saying like a penny saved is a penny earned, to folk tales
The memes they mention in MGR and MGS2 are those memes
>>342906594
That ending
Its Perfect
>>342900249
Nah faggot, 3:SE sold an additional million copies exceeding both 1 and 2.
>>342906981
Dat synchronized jump dodge down slash
