Musou games : Plague or cancer?
Are generally really fun especially if they implement coop, otherwise they're pretty much all the same.
There's also Musou games that are even more retarded like Dragon Quest Heroes that have the perfect potential to have coop but don't.
Best genre.
>>342872736
They're constantly made
They constantly sell
They're consistently mediocre
They're constantly gaining more and more IP's to adapt
Conclusion:
They won't ever go away
Musous are as brain dead as its fan base.
>>342872736
There is just too many of them
>Its the "STOP HAVING FUN" Episode #245
Fun sure is a luxury around here
Musou games are made for having a break from other harder games
i don't see a problem
>>342872736
they are this
>buy random musou on ps3 flash sale
>pop in out the ass
>>342873210
>>342873293
without violence, story, coop and decent ai i just dont see whats fun in there. Only game i liked was Warriors: Legends of Troy and it was guilty pleasure because blood and compering it to actual story.
Cancer, basically call of duty tier at this point
>>342873604
Sengoku basara 4: sumeragi is great too
>>342872736
Musou games are for people who doesn't have much time for playing vidya and want to relax.
>>342873394
>pop in out the ass
what
>>342873394
What do you expect from Japanese games that aren't made on a huge budget?
The pirate warrior games are God tier.
The Gundam ones were pretty dope. None of the others are very good in my opinion though. Having the characters be robots that can boost and fly and shoot and transform into planes and shit does wonders for play-ability in that series. In general the controls generally felt more polished. Also the level of fanservice in the Gundam Musou games was far beyond that of other Musou IPs.
>MFW I turned Heero into a Cyber-Newtype so that he could use funnels and joined the Titans
If only they were able to licence the Japanese soundtracks for the western releases they'd be perfect.
>>342873394
>>pop in out the ass
You must be talking about Basara, it's a yaoi series from Capcom, not musou.
>>342874915
Pirate Warriors 2 has great enemy count
But this Warriors Orochi shit has low texture stupidly humongous maps with empty spaces until mooks pop up in front of you
I liked both Hokuto Musous. They're the only ones I've ever been able to fully complete.
>>342872736
A well known franchise getting a musou -game usually means a missed opportunity.
>>342872736
Never played one in my life, the little of I saw of berserk was sick though
>>342872736
What Musou game has the best strategy elements? I loved being able to control squads in one of the PS2 Dynasty Warriors games but I'd still like to see more RTS elements in future Musou games.
>>342876284
I just started Warriors 3 and im enjoying myself.
I have the feeling that it'll get boring very fast though.
>>342872736
these are just the LEGO games of the west, no?
>>342872736
I don't think there is a genre more shit than Musou
It just feels like a sub-genre designed for low budget crap, like:
>So let's try to make a great beat em ups guys
>Huh it's actually hard to make great fighting system...
>We ran out of time and budget and all we got is a bare bones fighting system with a grand total of 5 different combos.. literally no level design.. puke inducing graphics.. No physics engine... Greg over there managed to model one enemy... fuck...
>Guys I got an idea
>Keep the shitty fighting system as our core gameplay,
>But it's shi...
>WAIT! Mike can you make a plane and color it green? That'll be our level. Greg, that enemy, how many time can you duplicate it?
>"I don't know, if we keep these puke-inducing graphics, I would say.. a fuckton of times sir"
>alright do it but then take the texture of the model and slide the HUE bar left and right a bunch of times, then duplicate these again and give more health to these recolored enemies, scale up one of them we'll call it a boss.
>But sir, how do we make money?
>That technique I gave you to create new enemies, we'll use it on the main character and sell the recolered ones as DLCs
>Brillant
>>342876284
I played 2 & 3 and they were shite.
Hyrule Warriors: Legends is the only one that's somewhat enjoyable and even that becomes repetitive really fast.
>>342873604
>without violence, story, coop and decent ai
Musous have all three do you just shit post or actually play video games?
>>342877478
LEGO games are actually really good.
>>342872736
>Plague or cancer?
both. literally always the same fucking game with different art assets. so fucking boring. none of them feel satisfying to play either.
I don't think I've ever seen a good musou.
Musou = kuso
>>342872736
I can only enjoy the if they are existing series.
I can't enjoy mainline musou outside of 6 and maybe 8.
Thanks like hyrule warriors, pirate warriors, ken's rage, stuff like them.
>>342877760
>smash this thing
>rebuild it
>smash these armies
>capture their fort
both sound pretty monotonous to me.
>>342877772
>none of them feel satisfying to play either.
>He doesn't get off on slaughtering armies solo
Musos aren't for faggots witch you seem to be.
>>342872736
Absolute cancer. It's absolutely fucking maddening that Tecmo Koei both have the best and worst battle systems ever made in videogames AND THEY DECIDE TO MILK THE WORST ONE
>>342877772
>None of them feel satisfying to play either.
This is the worst. It plays like shit, everything is weightless.
Which is really sad because the premise of fighting hordes of enemies could be interesting.
>>342878017
>3d ninja gaiden
>good battle system
no
>>342878119
You can't argue against this fact, idiot, don't even try again.
>>342878041
Quit playing on easy or normal faggot. On the harder difficults even the normal army men can destroy you quick if you aren't quick and get surrendered.
>>342877904
>He doesn't get off on slaughtering armies solo
i would if it actually felt that way though. they never do. i mean you already have tons of people complaining about the new berserk musou that doesn't even have dismemberment. i tried playing the hokuto no ken ones because i wanted to ATATATA and those games felt the slowest to me out of ALL of them, when it should've been the fastest. absolute dogshit.
>>342872736
Plagues can be cured and culled.
>Inb4 the cure for cancer actually exists but only the 1% has access to it because reasons
>>342878017
I was disappointed when they revived the Ninja Gaiden series only to turn it into that trash.
>>342878245
>3d ninja gaiden
>good battle system
no
Musou isn't great and is milked, but 3d ninja gaiden isn't either
>>342876390
nah outside of the fan wank cutscenes like char manhandling Heero in a Zaku II I get nearly no joy out of them.
>>342878269
Hokuto no ken ones were shit but Musou in general can be good and fun when played on hard. I will admit easy and normal is just like playing a rpg in god mode though.
>>342878357
I pity your shit tastes, but maybe the games was too hard for your casual self.
>>342877871
You can dumb down any genre to this you know?
FPS
>aim on this guy
>click
Fighting
>hit this guy
>hit him until you win
etc...
You obviously haven't played LEGO games to say this, or maybe you just dislike adventure games revolving around puzzles and simplistic combats.
LEGO games have pretty good writing despite being low budget. And they have all kinds of puzzles and interactions, there is also some variety in the levels and you can feel like the people who made this actually cared, unlike Musous. They even feel like retro adventure games sometimes.
I love Musou because beat-em-ups are all but dead, and I'll never stop playing Musou games.
Go back to your SJW shootan gaems.
Only good Musou is this one.
>>342878586
That's a cute boy
>>342878338
Yeah, I don't understand why they reused the name of a mediocre old and generic 2D BTA for the masterpiece that is NG Black on Xbox.
>>342872736
If they innovated the formula a bit, it could be pretty fun. More depth to things, better combat system, more content variety. But it's always the same thing.
>>342872736
What would you rather have for some of the franchises they turn into musou games, a bunch of rhythm games instead?
The genre has it's place and purpose. You people baffle me with your rectal rustling over these games.
>>342878481
>guy disagrees with you about the control scheme being good
>you have nothing to refute with and just instead call him a casual who can't handle the game's difficulty
>nothing to do with the control scheme
???
>>342878481
dumb born after 98 secondary
I'll keep playing the source material while you play your vastly inferior "reboot".
>>342878586
she's gonna appear in a later arc, i bet
>>342878017
Because making games like Ninja Gaiden actually require some work and talent so you can fuck it up easily, you need great game designers great level designers and even better AI programmers.
Musou games are hard to fail (No Level design, limited AI). And they're low budget as fuck so there is barely any risk, combine that with the fact that they can make Musou for beloved anime franchises that will sell a lot even if the game is mediocre and you got the recipe for the cancer of Japanese video games.
>>342879035
um
How do I in to musou on PC? Is it even possible?
>>342878586
>best musou had their worst pc port yet.
I'm still mad.
Which curse is better?
Low budget musou game or low budget Platinum game?
>>342872736
I enjoy them. I also enjoyed the first Drakengard.
>>342878709
Name 2 musou games that do not do this. IE: Exactly the same.
You can't. They all change shit around a bit with every different game. It's a different experience each time, even if the gameplay distills to PUSH-BUTTON-GUY-DOES-THING.
>>342879238
>best musou had a pc port that actually ran on my toaster
Loving every kek
>>342872736
they're 3d beat em ups, i don't see the big deal
Popeye Musou when?
>>342878265
How is that related to the feel of the game?
It feels like I'm cutting through grass because enemies are like one huge compact mass.
The feedbacks and the sound design are also often cheap as fuck and that doesn't help either.
>>342879359
Which is why he said "IF they innovated".
>>342879238
The port is good though, it even has a modding community.
>>342878586
I heard Dragon Quest Heroes was good...
>>342879429
Finally a wise person.
>>342877772
>literally always the same fucking game with different art assets
Except they're not. Every game does SOMETHING new.
>so fucking boring. none of them feel satisfying to play either.
Well then they aren't for you.
SCORPIO!
>>342872736
After dynasty warriors 7 Musou games changed for the worse. The found a way to copy and past the game code and only change the sprites. That why they are making musou everything now.
>>342877414
The xbox Kingdom Under Fire games are the most strategic but you might find the musou part lacking, it only triggers when your unit clashes with another and won't have you single-handedly winning a battle like in DW
There's also the DW: Empires series but they've been stripping down the kingdom management every entry since it left the PS2, and that was never deep to start with
Ninety Nine Nights has squads you can command to follow and lead into battle, but from what I remember they're meatshields more than anything
>>342879464
>alternative_costumes_in_fighting_games.jpg
>>342879557
And I'm saying they do, and the faggot is either running the goalposts or has not played more than one Musou game (if even one).
>>342879464
If you want to translate what happens in your image into a video game, you're thinking beat em ups, not Musou.
If your webm was Popeye hitting back a big swamp composed of the same animal, then yes, you want a Musou.
I used to like the genre as a youngling, but the games never evolved since then so I cant be arsed to play them. They all feel the same they felt nearly 10 years ago. Its a stale genre thats afraid of innovation.
>>342879035
She literally fell and broke her neck and was cremated.
Not likely.
>>342879464
Goddamn Olive is a tough bitch.
>>342879571
The port is literally PS3 graphics with fucked up lighting. The most modding did was fix the lighting, it still looks horrible.
>>342872736
(You)
>>342872736
neitheryou wa shock
that North Star game was so bad. Goddamn.
Dynasty Warriors 8 was neat though, I played a good chunk of that before getting burned out.
>>342879859
Really? I feel the opposite where I hated them when young and now I love them. There's just something satisfying about always having a safe purchase and knowing that you're going to get exactly what you want when you buy it.
>>342879604
You heard wrong.
>>342879878
But it isn't. Modding fixed the draw distance, shadows, saturation, and limited character roster. And you can further tweak visuals/textures if you want.
The lighting is the same as PS4.
>>342872736
the mcdonald of video game
the call of duty of beat em up game
the japanese call of duty
the chinese product made by japanese
the league of legend of japanese game
the muslim of video game
Still waiting on anyone to name two Musou games that are exactly the same.
>>342879653
MUH LORD!
>>342880196
>the japanese call of duty
But that's literally Call of Duty. They love it in Japan.
>>342880105
>draw distance, shadows, saturation
Oh joy, I can look at the godawful textures better now.
>you can further tweak visuals/textures if you want
[citation needed]
>The lighting is the same as PS4.
>>342879183
>>342880196
>the japanese call of duty
I would actually attribute that to Super Robot Wars. Or maybe that's the japanese Madden.
>>342872736
Both. Literal garbage that people with the shittiest taste imaginable just gobble up.
Also
>word: musou
Where the fuck did this word come from and why are people suddenly calling these shit games that. I've literally never heard of it before in my life until this new Berserk game came to light.
>>342880196
>the muslim of video game
it ruins every franchise it touches?
>>342877534
I like them, fuck you ;)
>>342879604
it's 'failed potential, the video game'. It's the one time they decided to do something different with the formula and it ruins the game.
Instead of running around large battlegrounds to take out bases and eventually defeating the commander it's either a 'PROTECT THIS NPC/INSTALLATION' or 'WAIT OUT THIS TIMER'.
Doesn't help that the majority of movesets were rather boring compared to modern musou games as well.
>>342880461
nah, it is like by many people, it exist since ps1 and it will never go away
>>342880446
>Where the fuck did this word come from
It means Unrivalled and it's the name of the franchise in Japan.
>>342880289
call of duty is made by the Americans. Musou game is made by the Japanese.
>>342880234
Warriors Orochi and Warriors Orochi 2. :^)
>>342880462
No problemo :)
I know people like these and I'm happy about it because if everyone had great taste, then no one would have great taste and I couldn't say that I have great taste ^^
>Ken's Rage 2 was so much better than the first but no one played it because the first one.
I like musous (mainly the licensed ones) because no other game let's you play with literally every fucking one of the cast.
>>342880234
>>342880650
He's got you there.
>they're all the same
>the first musou wasn't even a musou, it was a fighting game
>>342880691
Actually I would say that 2 was a lot worse than 1, even if it had a lot more playable characters.
>he thinks he's a "hardcore" gamer
>he can't even appreciate musous
>he shits on them relentlessly despite never having touched a single koei game in his life
>he's probably going to go play overwatch now
Disgusting t b h
>>342880348
The textures are exactly the same.
>[citation needed]
Reshade, Nvidia Inspector, etc.
And?
>>342880691
I remember hearing that it was way worse than the first one.
>>342880691
Got all the trophies/achievements in both FotNS games. DQ Heroes is about the only musou game I didn't like enough to bother finishing it's story mode.
North Star 2's Kaioh is probably the most broken musou character in the history of the franchise. Fucker can kill things before they even spawn.
>>342880665
What games do you like?
>>342872736
Whats the most fun way to play musou games? I feel like I may have had the wrong idea. Do you just charge the point as fast as you can or do you take your time killing down to the last man? Is their anymore depth to the game's strategic potential that I'm missing?
>>342877745
Not all of them buttravaged anon.
>>342880020
The second North Star game fixed a lot of fails of the first one. It even has the complete manga story.
Can we all agree that Bladestorm is the unsung hero of the musou genre?
>>342881034
Play on Hard/Chaos mode to start with. Stay the fuck away from Easy/Normal. Murder everything in your way and work on maxing every character out.
>>342880858
>the first musou wasn't even a musou, it was a fighting game
That literally isn't part of the series in japan m8
Musou games are cheap to make. Easy money for IPs.
>>342881151
>That literally isn't part of the series in japan m8
>the title is Sangokumusou
>DW2 is called Shin Sangokumusou
wut
I'm excited for For Honor simply because it combines my eternal dream of directional combat in a sort of Musou game.
>>342881034
Well, the only traditional musou I've played is the Zelda one (Fist of the North Star is structured a bit differently) and in that one it's best to not bother with all the small fries and only attack the stronger enemies with lifebars or just rush to capture all the bases. You have to kill all the weaklings in the base in order to fill a meter to capture it, though
>>342881083
Really? Is better that the first game? I dropped it because the level up system was a fucking shit...
Ill give it a second chance.
![arslan[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jIcJiS2.jpg "arslan[1].jpg")
>that one musou game that everybody always forgets that it exists
Bought it a few months ago and haven't finished it yet.
>>342880650
Dream mode, survivale mode, versus mode, costume swaps, triple musous, easier tags, easier to upgrade weapons.
>>342881447
Not him but 2 felt really shallow to me compared to 1
>>342881027
Though since you have shit taste I expect you to shit on it :)
>>342872736
They are top tier because unlike many other genres that might actually try to convince people that something other than gameplay is the main focus of their game a musou game's main focus is always the gameplay.
It's mindless fun and a good stress reliever even.
>>342881678
Murder on your thumbs though if you play long sessions.
>>342881447
Second game has a new power up system where you lay icons out on a grid with certain combinations giving you bonus passive abilities.
Fun to work with, but it's every easy to break the system to make yourself unstoppable, and the ones you get from the DLC missions are better than the ones you get normally (don't actually need to be THAT powerful to do everything in the game though).
>>342881513
>Based on some anime no one cares about
>>342872904
I imported this game to play with my nieces and was fucking pissed when I found out it was single player only. I thought that it was going to let us do CO-OP after the tutorial. I will never just take that for granted again. I also love the game. It is a perfect blend of traditional Dragon Quest and musou. It works quite well.
>>342872736
I've played musou games since their inception. I personally love them. /v/ used to love them too. Musou was one of the only games that was okay to 'like' on this board. Musou and God Hand were okay. I don't even know anymore.
>>342881639
Hey I actually like most of those except Rogue and Crystal AND I like musou games guess tastes are, after all, subjective
SMT musou when?!
>>342881294
>DW2 is called Shin Sangokumusou
so is 3,4,5,6 and so on
the series is a spin off of the fighting game
>>342881639
>Rogue Squadron 3D
mah fucking nigga
>>342881817
A musou game without couch co-op pretty much throws away one of the best parts of the series. The few that don't have it always loses big points in my book.
The worse thing about musou games are the level designs, holy shit can the developers just calm down on the wide open space for once. This is one of the reason why i skip out on the one piece musou game.
>>342882014
But the One Piece musou games are mostly corridors linking the territories, not open space
>>342882014
>wants less open spaces
>when people bitch that the newer games are turning all the maps into 'follow the corridors and open the locked gates as deviating from the stage script gets your commander killed'.
The only Musou I've played is Hyrule Warriors.
I'm pretty much just waiting on the Berserk one now.
There's no way I can waste my effort on other games in this genre when it will get tired very, very quickly.
>>342881945
I want this
>>342877534
Rekt
>>342882262
I personally don't think HW is that good compared to most of the other games in the musou universe.
If it didn't have the Zelda name attached and wasn't the only musou game on the Wii U people know about (gimped versions of WO3 and FotNS2 are also on it) it wouldn't be that big a deal.
>>342881639
Not that other anon, but having Pokemon in your list is just as bad as having a Dynasty Warriors. Each Pokemon game has the same cut and pasted attitude as the Dynasty Warriors series, but they are both brainless games. So you both have equally shit taste! Honestly, I just don't buy or talk about games that I don't like. I really don't see the point. What fun is it to jump into a Mario thread just to tell everyone how shitty their favorite game is?
I really enjoyed Okami. Wish the Wii version worked better. How do you fuck something up that hard?
Seriously I thought someone would namedrop a good PC musou by now...
I've only really played HW but I don't own a N3DS or a Wii U to get to really burn out of it.
>Musou
kindly fuck off with this epic new fresh weabo mehmeh word
>>342882440
Oh I only played it for about 30 hours. Enjoyed it co-op with a buddy. Got real tired of it after that and the thought of grinding out more of the game was just too much.
It was also my first musou and obviously before I knew that they made these games out of every series ever.
But I enjoyed it.
If I hear good things about One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 then I'll consider picking it up too.
Kens rage 1 was good. That jump cancelling boy
What went wrong with 2?
>musou without hundreds of enemies on screen
>no jump button
>babby autododge
Did the fucking Koei G-Team develop this?
Looking forward to the berserk musou.
Hopefully I can play as mah nigga serpico.
>>342882831
One piece pirate warriors 3
Dynasty Warriors 8
Samurai Warriors 4 II
I just wanted a musou with an actual good combat system though, if they mixed DMC combat or something with more fluidity i'd be all over it.
>mfw the 1000 heartless fight in kingdom hearts 2 was more enjoyable than any musou i've ever played
>>342882946
No, the z-team did
>giant fucking map
>go from base to base
>spam special
>kill the 30 guys that pop out
>wait with thumb up your ass for other enemies to spawn to get to 40/40 killed
>repeat until boss
>>342882008
I'm normally the same, but it is a mash-up of Dragon Quest and Musou that really tries to stay true to the source while still being a Musou. I was pissed a first, but once I realized that I was actually quite happy with the game. I've loved the Dragon Quest series since the first NES game and this musou somehow stayed true to that feeling.
>>342882909
OP3 is very good and much faster paced than HW.
Also leagues more characters.
Co-op also isn't as gimped as it is on HW since it's split-screen.
>>342878357
Have you even played ninja gaiden black?
It is insane how technical this game can get and how rewarding overcoming challenges feel compared to the most newer ip's. Putting it on the same level as dynasty warriors is insane but more even more dumb. Play it before spouting shit in all directions.
>>342882819
>Each Pokemon game has the same cut and pasted attitude as the Dynasty Warriors series, but they are both brainless games.
Have you ever played a pokemon game in your entire life dude?
There is tourneys of pokemon games, it's not as brainless as it seems and there is some strategy and tactics involved, the game is basically a card game with rules close to Magick actually. I don't see how it's as brainless as smashing the same button over and over in front of training dummies until they disappear.
>>342883371
>he plays pokemon competitively
>>342882898
They've been called Musou since this board started. Lurk moar faggot.
>>342883260
It looks pretty good and I'm reading that it's not taking huge skips in the story. I can get behind that.
Maybe when I get back from my trip I'll put it on ol' orderoo.
>>342883524
>he plays Musou games comp...
Oh wait :)
>>342874865
anon is referring to texture pop in
>>342872736
It was fun when I was a lot younger. Fighting off hundreds of enemies was badass.
But now it's like fighting off cardboard cut-out enemies. You hit them and they fall. It's fucking boring now.
>>342883575
Now this is some revisionist shit
>>342883001
I'm sure Serpico will be a playable character. They are all pretty much made to fit in a Musou setting. Importing day one, and can't wait.
>DW4: Empires
>One Piece 1, 2, 3
>DW Vita
I'm more of a casual DW fan, these are the only games I've played. I bought Warriors Orochi 3 for PS4 a year ago but I've never touched it. I do think it's weird that there are people who follow the series over dozens of titles but since I handle the series casually I don't really have any qualms.
>>342878519
I played one of the Harry Potter Lego games years ago, and then I played the Marvel one because a certain webm that was floating around convinced me it was awesome. There really hasn't been a lot of progress, aside from the ridiculous amount of licenses that the Lego games have adapted they're not really anything special either.
>>342883524
No I don't, but it still has enough depth to be played competitively.
>>342872736
Incredibly popular and easy to graft existing franchises onto, so Anon's whining on 4chan isn't going to make them go away.
You get musous for the setting
That's why you hear a bunch of people screaming about how Zelda or PW or Dragon Quest Warriors are the best.
It's because they like said setting the best.
Personally, i like Three Kingdoms and the Sengoku Period enough to get more mileage of the historically themed Musou-esque games.I really like Sengoku Basara
>>342884019
I would give my left nut for a TMNT or Transformers musou.
Shame it will never happen.
>>342883371
>>342881639
>Liking pokemon and questioning someone's taste
Nope, I will NEVER trust anyone that says they like/enjoy pokemon as an adult as anything but a child's entry level JRPG when so many better games exist.
Fun.
>>342883371
I've played quite a few of them actually. You can get through most of the game with one Pokemon spamming tackle over and over. Power level one pokemon and beat everything. It's just as brainless as Musou. I like both.The only person I take Pokemon advice from is Ernie Hudson
>>342883197
In the 1000KO's defende, it is literally what anyone ever needs when they want to play a musou game.
Here's 1000 enemies in a really tight space, some QTE if you want to speed up the fight, go out there and wreck shit.
Ultimately, the best Musou would just be Miniboss Boss Rush followed by 1000ko battle and topped with a sweet DMC styled boss fight.
>>342884029
>Samurai Warriors 3 ran like shit and looked like shit on the Wii
>people blame the Wii instead of Koei being lazy fucks who didn't bother optimizing their engine for the system
>Capcom ports Sengoku Basara 1-3 on the Wii and they ran perfectly
I don't care for Basara as much as Musou, but Basara 3 made SW3 a total joke. Still need to import the JP only PS3 version of SW3 someday.
Which reminds me..
>SW3 failed on the Wii stateside
>SW3 XL and Empires stayed in Japan
Fucking hell was I pissed back then.
>>342883702
I was here. You do realize where you fucking are right?
>>342872736
>Objective DW faction ranking
>Wei
Likeable cast for the most part.
>Wu
Some of the cast is also likeable and pull the rest of the shitter up
>Lu Bu
At least they aren't shu
>Shu
Bunch of retard pulled up only by the Guans
>Jin
Edgelords
>>342884397
>HURR DURR LE OPTIMIZATION
Wii hardware a shit, get over it
>>342884609
It was shit, but Capcom still pulled detailed stages, backgrounds, and high enemy counts of their ass in their Wii versions of Basara 3 and Utage.
>>342873604
Why do you need to see blood? Are you 16?
>>342884609
SW3 as a whole was shit desu.
Well at least it gave us Hojo Ujiyasu
>>342884778
![Maeda.Matsu.(Sengoku.Basara).full.1336397[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZlzNLMy.jpg "Maeda.Matsu.(Sengoku.Basara).full.1336397[1].jpg")
>>342884778
Matsu a best and a cutest
>>342884894
Dynasty Warriors is literally Japan's Call of Duty
>yearly franchise
>not much variation from game to game
>enjoyed by dudebro normalfags (Chinese "historians" in Japan think they are normal)
>It's just you mowing down hordes of non-white people
>Completely silly and unrealistic, but the fanbase actually thinks they're learning something from it other than dates of battles.
>>342872736
>>342877904
Are there any musou games where you can also command an army if you choose? Like Pikmin, but not really (i've never played Pikman, it's the only thing I coudl think of). Or maybe like Halo Wars or Wonderful Man 100 (I've never played those games, but they're the only thing I could think of).
Something with light RTS elements for those of us who don't like RTS that much.
>>342884906
To be honest i prefer Naotora
>>342885204
Bladestorm is my best suggestion
>>342885216
but she's a feministand a good one too
>>342885204
Empires games lets you give orders to other members of your army in most of them, but it's up to you to do all the heavy lifting for the most part.
There's an upcoming back about Zhou Yun that looks like combines action and strategy more, but I haven't paid much attention to it since Shu's important people are fucking boring.
>>342885481
meant upcoming game.
>Koei will never make Dynasty Tactics 3
I miss playing ping pong with enemy units.
Any western Musous? I've been wanting to see how white people try to pull this off since I played Bladestorm and hoped that actual Europeans (or even Americans) could make a similar game.
On that note, Koei made a Romance of the Three Kingdoms-like game about the American Revolution anyway, so I'm sure they can pull it off.
>>342885481
and meant Zhao Yun, holy shit I need sleep.
>>342885735
This really annoys me. The American Revolutionaries used the Union Flag until after they were Independent and then they got the Stars and Stripes. They fought, during the war, with the Union Flag as their standard.
Musou's on harder dificulties are some of the most chalenging thing in any game i've ever played.
>>342885310
>Bladestorm
I also forgot about Kingdom Under Fire, thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8VRfjTaQNw
>>342885735
A Canadian branch (now a dead branch) made Warriors: Legend of Troy. Wasn't that well received and I haven't played it (or even seen it anywhere).
>>342885448
Yes but she is cute.
I'm a simple man.
>>342878979
>inferior "reboot"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLJ5vXH5yb4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzU53dVHGSo
sure.
>>342872736
You mean those Dynasty Warriors games and spin-offs? They're cancer in every way. Always the same generic level design and monotonous gameplay while Sengoku Basara at least has some unique, "organic" looking levels, platforming here and there, puzzles and decent dodging. I think in some muosu games you can't even jump.
Utter shit tier games only enjoyed by mentally disabled subhumans that ruin our hobby.
You l iterally do nothing but X > Y or X > X > Y or X > X > X > Y the entire time.
>>342872736
why not both?
pretty much the kind of power fantasy only weeb manchild could enjoy: "I'M SO SUPERSTRONG THAT I KILL MILLION ENEMYS WITH SUPERCHARJED KATANA AND ALSO I HAVE SUPERSPEELL CHARGES THAT DISTROY ALL INIMIES IN THE SCREEN!"
pathetic, pointless and above all not funny at all..
>>342880858
>>342880947
Second one is faster, has better controls, better graphics and enemies actualy explode in gore bits when you beat then
>>342886562
So who plays God of War?
>>342886672
probably BRs and other sudacas since no one else plays playstation 2 anymore
>>342884158
You know the same people made Mother 3 and Pokemon right?
You know hating on Pokemon just because it's popular doesn't make you cool?
I admit that it went to shit really fast like 3th or 4th gen, but the initial concept and the first games were really great.
>>342872736
Modern day equivalent of beat em ups. Shallow and repetitive yet generally enjoyable games.
>>342886003
It's kinda of a clunky game.
I like that Achilles is rightfully portrayed as a VERY angry man
>>342885884
I'm honestly just glad that Koei didn't use the modern U.S. flag. But yeah, it seems that they fucked up the placement of the stars on the flag behind George Washington anyway.
>>342878017
>>342879131
DMC is better.Shit even GOW is better. NG2 obliteration mechanic came straight out of GOW and Itigaki himself even praised GOW.
>>342884158
so you dont think all games are children toys?
what a fuck are you doing in here?
>>342886748
But there is a new one on PS4.
>complaining about a niche genre made on a shoe string budget
For what purpose?
>>342886813
They remembered the game enough to put him in Warriors Orochi 3 at least.
>doesn't really give a fuck about anybody's problems and constantly pissed about something
>only hangs around Da Ji because she's always causing problems that are resolved with violence
>>342886939i was aware of that, i just meant it became a worthless franchise post-ps2
>>342873369
Are you trying to say streets of rage sucked?
>>342886873
DMC and NG are on the same level for me. Both are excellent but still have enough differences that I think some people would prefer one or the other.
Now GoW? This is mediocre at best. And I don't see how one mechanic in NG2 coming from God of War make GoW better, also the mechanic isn't a QTE in NG2 and that makes it instantly better, though NG2 isn't as great as NGB in the first place so I don't know why you're using NG2 for comparison instead of NGB, even when people talked only about NGB in this thread.
The only fact that you used this to prove the point that GOW is better than NG shows that your post is nothing but bait.
>>342885187
that poyo poyo anon
>>342886562
Why do you people label every game where the main character isn't a "realistic" failure beta like the kind of people that play video games a misogynistic power fantasy? Do you hate success that much?
>>342886937
Games like Red Orchestra are not for children.
Over time it seems many people have forgotten the most important ingredient to a good gaming experience: The good game.
And by game I'm not referring to life like engines, low speed chases, low magazine counts, or any of the other irrelevant nonsense I don't give a submarining fuck about. I mean the actual gameplay. The part where you control stuff and have it interact with other stuff and then your brain generates fun.
If I wanted a realistic combat system, I'd go outside. There's only a few million niggers outside already in existence, the majority of which whose a.i. compare to the best video game combat sims, the same way Kobe Bryant's penis might compare to that of a poorly endowed tit mouse.
If enduring 90 minutes of dudes reloading slowly dubbed with pornography-grade voice acting sounds exciting to you, I suggest you immediately open up your web browser, browse on over to your friendly neighborhood torrent site, and start downloading something called a DOCUMENTARY. Any of them really, because apparently you're very easily satisfied.
Perhaps I'm romanticizing the past here, but but I remember a time when most games were about being having fun, about defeating lots of foes, about improving your skills against all types of adversaries and about feeling proud of your accomplishments.
Now they're mostly shiny particle effected vessels guiding any soccer mom caliber gamer through a generic 3rd grade level story where anyone with a brain the size of a steroid shrunk testicle can pretend to be a normal person even though HE CAN DO THAT ALREADY
>B-but I need a realistic engine, no suspension of disbelief, lots of chest high walls!
Would you really need chest high walls to play Donkey Kong, you twat? How about foosball? Or poker? If the process of playing a game isn't fun for you, then maybe you should find a different hobby.
>>342887389
gow was a casual game. offered a casual experience and was great for that
you COULD do cuuhrayzee shit in that game the question is why botter?
when holding L1 and pressing Square would literaly give you a infinite combo
>>342872736
Why is every Musou game on steam so fucking expensive?
The Sengoku Basara games are 1000x better than the musou counterparts. Sadly, no one bought the games when they came out so Capcom said bye bye to the U.S. fanbase. Now we're stuck with the boring as fuck musou games from Koei Kikemo.
>>342887696
A first person shoter, launched after the 7th gen anon?
just because is harder than Cod doesnt mean its not for children
![latest[8].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pqvCCET.jpg "latest[8].jpg")
>>342887580
Can't even be called misogynistic as there's females in almost every game and most of them are as powerful as the male characters.
I played the one piece one on the pc and liked it. Which one should i try next on the pc? Take into consideration that i have no prior interest in three kingdoms.
>>342872736
if they innovated it a bit and made them more like the hundred year war game in terms of what else there is to do(control land and such) then maybe they'd be more fun
so far they are the same 10 combos over and over and it is retarded
Anyone else find it strange that /v/ can't get behind the idea of comfy games that attempt to make you feel powerful.
This whole thread is predicated on the idea that there's something wrong with cutting down 1000s of enemies with an okay, but simplistic combo system. Like holy shit /v/, musous aren't that bad
>>342887925
Dynasty Warriors 8 Complete, but be aware it's just a slightly gussied up version of the PS3 game instead of the PS4.
>>342887920
Oppai Slider is not for children.
>>342879623
since i'm not autistic, i'm inclined to agree
>>342888151
Why not?
>kids cant have sex by law
>kids wanna rub one out, because their body hormones demand reprodution
>sex game is out
>sex game contains Tits
>kid's penis like tits
>kid play sex game
>>342877778
>musou = damn
Don't use words with meanings you don't understand. It's kusoge, retard
>>342886806
t. someone who never played a decent beat em up
>>342888427
Because it wasn't made for kids? If you're going by the logic that anything kids can see is for kids, then that might as well include all films, books, tv shows, and art.
>>342888062
I think they tried that with the empire versions
>>342888462
t. someone who has never played any beat em up
Dark Souls shitters hate musous because they want to skate on fucking roller blades and try to back stab individual enemies like the faggot teenagers they are
>>342888441
kuso mean shit, though.
The kanji 糞 literally is read as feces in Chinese.
>>342888738
>being this much of a false flagger
why
Only musou game I've ever played to completion was PW3
It was pretty decent but I only got mileage out of the game because of all the characters I could play. It wasn't challenging in the slightest.
>>342888667
> these implications
classic beat em ups had difficulty and weren't just about killing a bunch of dudes with minimal effort
>>342888147
thanks, will buy it during the sale
>>342889283
The only ones that had difficulty were fucking bullshit with random misses.
>>342883361
can it be emulated?
>>342888983
this isn't infowars
Are the Dynasty Warriors Empires games worth playing?
>>342889932
Depends on the version. DW5:E is usually considered the best.
DW5 was objectively the best musou game ever made. They perfected the mechanics and the levels were at their best.
>>342889932
Only worth it for custom characters, the actual strategy part is so barebones you wonder why they bothered
>>342885735
Does warcraft III count as musou with how the entire army centered around your heroes?
>>342882946
Ken's Rage was ultra baby the moment you got jump cancelling because it was instant guard break break for every boss besides Heart.
No need to dodge what doesn't touch you.
>>342890191
Well the frozen throne campaign have some musou-like missions, especially that final Rexxar campaign where you take your party of heroes to push through an endless wave of enemies to aid your AI controlled waves.
>>342889448
>>342890089
Thats not DW7
>>342888937
Depends, kanji is interpreted differently in Japanese. All the usage I've seen of it were in regards to Damn, or dammit.
>>342885735
https://youtu.be/DxbhCiLo5q4?t=1m3s
It wasn't too bad, i kinda liked it
