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Just installed this. What should I expect?
Unforeseen consequences.
>>342841423
disappointment
Expect a pretty cool game. I played Half-Life 2 first, but got really interested in the series and had a lot of fun when I played the first one and its expansion packs.
>What should I expect?
One of the greatest games ever made.
>>342841423
Mediocre game
barnacles
>>342841423
More fun than Half-Life 2 IMO
less annoying NPCs following you around
>>342841423
The test chamber.
>>342841423
great fps.
A great single player first person shooter experience. A first of its kind actually.
>>342841423
Boring first few minutes. SHTF real fast. Late 90s gunplay.
>>342842042
>>342841709
these two are faggots
half-life has more content is more challenging and rewards you better with shots and actually has recoil on the guns
Something that has not existed on a AAA game since around that era
>>342842087
Oh baby.
>>342842412
No, half life is boring and extremely overrated. Recoil is barely an obstacle.
>>342841423
the best game of the 90s that permanently changed the way first person games were done
>>342842516
No it isnt it is a great game and there has not been recoil in any major titles since around this era
>>342841582
fpbs
>>342842373
>he doesn't engross himself in the atmosphere of the early game
pleb
>>342842412
>more challenging
>bulletsponge enemies, shitty platforming sections
If you don't like half life, you simply didn't play it around the time it came out.
Partly nostalgia, but also an appreciation for the things it did different to most games at the time.
>>342842516
>half life instead of half-life
Opinion disregarded.
>>342842939
You can say that shit when you want to make excuses for HL2. HL1 is good right now.
>>342841423
an extremely dated game that will leave you bored as fuck
>>342843058
you're one of those autists that spells Valve as VALVᵉ aren't you?
>>342843076
superior recoil compared to modern titles
>dated
>>342843072
it's a lot harder to appreciate the game today if you've already played a lot of modern titles that copy half life 1
>>342843227
Half life is a good game because it's a good shooter with good mechanics and good guns. Not because of some train ride at the beginning or npcs that open doors for you.
>>342843076
This. Get Black Mesa instead
>>342843372
fuck off
black mesa is shit
>>342843372
yep worse recoil and slower movement is is a good thing
>>342843372
>le xenless soap opera slow half life
>>342843490
>slower movement
it's slower than original? fuck
>>342841423
a lot of fun anon, better gunplay than HL2 if you ask me
>>342843490
Don't forget neutering the grunt's AI to basically be walking turrets.
Bunny hopping
>>342843372
the audio is shit
everything sounds off
weapons don't sound right
animations are shit
everyone looks the same
>>342841423
A game you will love for half your life
>>342841423
One of the worst games ever made. Trial and error gameplay, terrible ladder physics, the list goes on.
>>342843539
significantly.
Gordon in HL1 runs at about the same speed as you do in Quake
>>342841423
Honestly I enjoyed this game more than HL2. HL1 is a very solid game with a lot of fun shit
Fuck HL2. It's overrated. Come at me
>>342841423
On A Rail fucking sucks
HEY CATCH ME LATER I'LL BUY YA A BEER
>>342843746
Everything is right except your last point
literally all but one security guard is the same
>>342843807
>two points
>the list goes on
faggot
>>342844854
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x26pjm9_top-ten-gaming-sequel-transitions_videogames
Find the half life section
>want to play a game again
>remember THAT part
What was it, /v/?
>>342844987
>dailymotion
>GamingTopTen
It's like you're not even trying
>>342845309
Wait, what's the issue here? Are you trying to troll?
>>342845279
CLANK CLANK
CLANK CLANK
..
CLANK CLANK CLANK
>>342845279
I don't understand, was this supposed to be hard? You have quicksaving.
The hardest part was that the retarded guard at the top came outside to shoot the thing. I had to shoot him so he didn't block my way.
>>342845279
Demons souls loading screens desu
HL1 is miles better than HL2
Better atmosphere, better gunplay, better enemies, better puzzles, Xen, no Alex, scary water enemies, Military coverups. Perfectly captures the conspiratorial, paranoid feeling of the 1990s.
Literally superior in every way. Anyone who says otherwise is a teenager.
>>342845279
>remember this taking forever as a kid
>do it again as an adult in like 20 minutes
Everything seems to work that way but this one really stands out to me.
>>342841949
Thanks for posting this one friend
>This year's E3
>>342841423
A decent fps that unfortunately overshadowed far better ones from the same year.
>>342841582
/thread.
>>342843746
>everyone looks the same
I love Hl1 as well, but please.
>>342845279
did you faggots try to save the scientist?
I shot him once and broke the cutscene, but he wouldn't talk to me :(
>>342846457
Now anon, this isn't a HL2 thread. Don't be that guy.
>>342846457
>old school fps thread
>WOW HEY GUYS DID YOU HEAR ABOUT UNREAL? IT'S THE BEST TRUCKING GAME EVER. NO I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT UNREAL TOURNAMENT, I'M TALKING ABOUT UNREAL, I KNOW YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF IT, BUT JUST TAKE MY WORD THAT IT'S BETTER THAN EVERY OTHER CELEBRATED FPS IN HISTORY
>>342842939
I only played Blue Shift anytime near its release, and had a blast when I finally played through HL a few years back.
>>342847308
Never happens. Did you mean to say Blood? Since that's what happens and then a dozen webms are posted.
>>342846457
>there will never be a Half Life thread without obnoxious wannabe shills for other games that won't just make their own fucking threads
>>342845979
The leaked Hl2 stuff looks as if it would have made a far greater game. Not that HL2 wasn't great at release.
>>342841423
A fantastic game that has aged like fine wine
I have been having a lot of fun with mods recently, just finished Azure Sheep and Half-Quake
>>342846457
Unreal is definitely really underrated, those guns and music were great
But UT was much better game
>>342847308
The proper protocol is to bring it up when people start saying shit about HL inventing stuff. Not randomly like that guy.
>>342842930
>platforming
>bad
>>342847454
It happens in literally every half-life thread.
>>342845279
On A Rail
If Blue Shift came out before Opposing Force it would have been better received
>>342847571
>Boy Half-Quake was great now I gotta try Half-Life Amen
>It's fucking shit
o-okay.
>>342845279
>Best
Lambda Core
>Worst
Interloper
>Overrated
Surface Tension
>Underrated
Residue Processing
>>342845624
I think most people just find it tedious
>>342841949
I like how none of those scenes that are in the screenshots appear in the game.
Can we talk about how much better HL1 is than HL2 and how HL2 is overrated as fuck?
>>342845279
>Best
Black Mesa Inbound
>Worst
Questionable Ethics
>Overrated
Xen
>Underrated
Hazard Course
>>342849262
The beta build of HL2 looked god tier. After the redesign I was so disappointed with it.
>>342845279
>not this piece of shit
>literally so unmemorable i can't even remember his name
I mean, it's the final boss, but it's probably the worst part of the game by a huge stretch.
>>342849416
>Best
Office Complex
>Worst
Interloper
>Overrated
Surface Tension
>Underrated
Forget About Freeman
>>342849637
>Nihilanth
>giant baby not memorable
>>342841423
>shooten
>runnin
>jumpin
>>342849637
Why does Half-Life go retarded the last chapter? it always felt off compared to the whole game
>>342850152
that's why it's so memorable
>>342850152
Xen is the best part of the game.
>>342850382
yeah i honestly don't get why so many people hate it
there's just that one part that fucking sucks and that's the one with the big platform full of those alien trampolines
for years i thought you actually had to take damage from them but it turns out you have to crawl in some really well hidden tiny hole
>>342841423
I just started this yesterday. Currently at Blast Pit. I also got it to play through the They Hunger mods I played as a kid.
>>342850582
How much of it do you remember? A lot if it is really good but it starts getting weird in the third chapter.
>>342843076
>dated
when will this meme end?
>>342849637
I don't know, I liked that fucker, and he sure as fuck was memorable. Killing the final boss with a crowbar is really satisfying.
>>342849842
I meant I couldn't remember his name.
It's only ever shown before you start the boss fight.
I did remember the fight itself and how much I didn't like it.
>>342849637
He's more memorable than the final boss of Blue Shift.
>>342849249
A lot of the alpha/beta stuff from '97 has been reused to some degree mostly pertaining to levels. As far as I see, only the story and, from gameplay perspective, characters had any dramatic change.
>>342850152
Because its supposed to? I guess it depends on what you mean by off, but I thought it was a really cool way, felt appropriately alien.
>>342841423
Fun game, shit final boss
>>342850996
wait a second
>>342843809
There's no sprint in Half-Life. Quake has sprint.
>>342850582
They Hunger is GOAT HL mod even though last episode was a bit meh
>>342851164
Gordon runs like a motherfucker at all times. Combine that with bunny hopping, gauss boosts, and grenade jumps and you can fly. Black Mesa has very slow movement speed without sprint(which is limited) and as far as I know has no boosts.
>>342851164
Quake doesn't have sprint
>>342851382
time to post top tier mods.
>>342851623
that mod was really fucking weird
>>342845279
>Best
Forget about Freeman
>Worst
Unforeseen Consequences
>Overrated
Surface Tension
>Underrated
Office Complex
Also I liked Blast Pit for some reason. The atmosphere was dark and spookily
>>342851767
The random anime pictures all over the place were weird but the mod itself was great.
>>342851623
4chan: the mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRSF4T9mhhs&ab_channel=AJollyWanker
Damn, I loved Half Life
>>342851856
Fuck off with that meme shit.
>>342851981
DO YOU SUCK DICKS?
>>342851939
Have you played unreal? it's better
>>342849249
I wish the alpha/beta stuff that got cut was still in the game. Stuff like Uplink, the marine base camp, a lot of the facility labs, etc. That shit was all pretty neat.
>>342850152
It's too videogamey in all the wrong ways. The never ending platforming feels off from the rest of the game where platforming was locked to a few sequences and it wasn't good to begin with. You then get the same as an entire episode. It sticks out like a sore thumb.
>>342851623
Poke646
>>342852131
The worst things they cut were the enemies.
>tfw there will never be a real working panthereye
>>342852131
meant to quote
>>342851027
>>342852131
i love uplink, i wish it was in the game too
i like how it even had secrets
>>342845279
Everything after office complex or we got hostiles depending on how I feel.
>>342852201
my melanin enriched friend.
do people forget that Xen was split into four chapters?
Xen
Gonarch's Lair
Interloper
Nihilanth
>>342851578
Yes it does. It's called "Run", so maybe my mistake. Pic related, Dos version running on Dosbox.
>>342852375
Also The Xen chapter itself was really short, Interloper which is the lesst popular is the longest
>>342852375
Probably they just don't like any part of Xen at all and just lump all the chapters together
I thought Gonarch's Lair was really fun though
>>342852647
Fuck
Mini
Headcrabs
>>342852375
Everyone labels these are Xen and doesn't bother about specifics. I don't really see a problem.
>>342852647
>a giant testicle on 4 legs
I wonder if they could get away with it now
>>342852385
Walking in quake is not the default, though.
It's like the walk function in half-life. Not default, but is present.
>>342851623
Point of View
>>342852853
I was interested in PoV because it was made by the same people as Azure Sheep and playing as Vortigunt sounded fun, but it just got too tedious
>>342852853
Azure Sheep too.
https://youtu.be/aH5y4vTCb1k?t=110
>that korean HEV
>>342852253
There actually is a mod that adds it back in. It's not a very smooth transition though. One minute you're jumping through portals in lambda and the next you're suddenly aligning radio dishes.
There's even one or two mods that extend uplink.
>You will never play uplink for the first time again
>>342853013
Playing a Vortigaunt is cool until you realize you're stuck with a single weapon 99% of the time.
>>342853013
Really? I loved shooting everybody with green lightning. I hardly used any other weapons.
>>342841423
>What should I expect?
Half-Life 8
>>342845979
>All this excellent taste
> No Alex
> Picking up on the 90s X-Files conspiracy vibes
Everything about you, I love. You could very well be me from another place and time. Can we hook up?
>>342853013
>>342853051
Azure Sheep was like better and Longer Blue Shift
>>342851623
This guy did a great overview of HL mods a month ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpbFtCUqM0M
>>342853071
>tfw no vocaloid armored suit
I haven't played 1, but if it's anything like HL2, it'll be partially a boring empty countryside walking/driving simulator, partially a standard fps with a few puzzles and light objectives
>Hazardous course
Comfy and infuriating all at once.
>>342853101
so, how do you escape from the gargantua?
>>342853551
It's not like HL2
It's more like Die Hard with science and aliens
Beat the game, then start getting single-player mods. Here are a few that are lengthy:
>Afraid of Monsters: DC
>Azure Sheep
>Black Ops
>They Hunger
>>342853417
>hated Wanted
Opinion discarded
>>342853673
>Afraid of Monsters: DC
The way they lock the only good ending is fucking infuriating.
>>342853618
Another portal.
It's pretty hamfisted.
So, azure sheep was pretty cool right?
did the PC escape with his waifu?
>>342853673
>>Black Ops
what did it do?
>>342853640
You've sold me, I need to play it now.
Here is a great site for HL mods
It's in Czech though so you'll have to use a translator
http://hosting.cecak.cz/forum-modifikace/hl1/
>>342853868
Is there anything there that's not on moddb?
>>342850792
>>342851382
I actually didn't play the Third Chapter. I've heard the third episode is the weakest.
>>342853797
>>342853673
Have there ever been other Hl1 mods with branching paths like AoM?
>>342853820
You get to play the role as a Black Ops operative from Opposing Force that blew up Black Mesa, so it's sort of a prologue to it.
>>342853946
Not sure
>>342854003
Its sequel Cry of Fear
>>342854003
Sweet Half-Life has two routes but they both have the same ending.
>>342841423
why did both half life 1 and 2 fail to establish the standards for new FPSes to come?
they set the bar so fucking high multiple times, but other games didnt even jump trying to reach it and still got a free pass with millions of players and sales
now nobody even remembers half life aside from die hard fanslike me
>>342845979
>>342853214
>>342853551
Is this you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpCv12q6fFI ?
I have no idea why current day /v/ is so blindly cynical about HL2 and the episodes. It's not like you have to war one against the other. You should appreciate both. I can safely say that if you hate either one, like actually having sat down and played the damn games, that you dislike either of them, you definitely have narrow and outright bad taste.
>>342853993
same, I only played 1 and 2.
>dat scene where the paratroopers land and begin to rip and tear zombies while you are in the cage.
The guy in the chopper was GOAT too.
>"DIE ZOMBIES" DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA
>>342853797
The good ending was always easy to get, just make sure you choose a different path when you get to the train station that doesn't lead you to the apartment complex.
>>342852104
No I'll check it out
>>342841582
perfect
>>342854179
In order to get the full code to open the good ending door you have to get every other ending first.
>>342854126
Because Valve takes their sweet time with them.
>>342854156
>
its the same with Dawn of War 1 and 2, they are honestly great in their own way, but it has to be one versus the other.
>>342854126
>now nobody even remembers half life aside from die hard fanslike me
The series not being relevant to the mainstream since 07 likely has something to do about it.
>>342854156
Half Life 2 has just aged badly, it's a simple fact. It was a good game at the time, and hell still honestly looks pretty good, but it's gameplay is dated and doesn't have the same visceral feel of the first.
>>342853993
>>342854163
It gets really silly and action-y, especially at the final boss. Much weaker than the first episode but it's a fine ending to the series.
>>342854156
I used to find HL1 overrated and love the second but now I swiched opinions, not sure why
There seems to be a small discrepancy in...
No, I'm sure it's within acceptable bounds.
>>342854156
Here's your (you). If you read my post I stated I haven't played 1. I cannot vouch for a game I didn't play. I just don't like 2.
>>342854298
They're still hugely influential, its just no one remembers them. HL2 set the ground works for the modern set piece driven campaign, unfortunately modern devs forgot that you need to make the set pieces actually playable.
>Early HL2 mods
Man, those are magical
>>342850152
I like it when games go off the deep end at the last part. It's the most cliche'd thing ever but I love it when a jrpg about swords and shit ends with you in some sort of sky fortress built by ancient aztecs who were actually from space.
>>342854264
The one where you wake up from your drug-induced coma? I remember you didn't need the code to get the good ending. It might've been a bug or something.
>>342854126
HL1 and 2 were cinematic experiences in a way that no other games since have been. People harp about TLOU all the time but HL1 was literally a video game movie that you could interact with, and was a killer FPS to boot.
>>342854298
>tfw memes about HL3 are more popular than HL1 and HL2.
this thread made me realize I never actually finished HL2
I got to the shitty chapter with the squad members and it kept crashing inside the citadel building so I just gave up
>>342854156
2 legitimately lost touch with everything that made 1 great. Sign of the times, and my #1 reason why I don't want a Half Life 3.
Is Half Life 2 a bad game? No. But if you were alive in the 90s to experience the game fresh for yourself with the mental capacity to understand the world around you, it was such a better game in that context than what Half Life 2 ended up being for early -mid 2000s. 1 was kind of like Deus Ex. They both capture that feeling, those vibes. They feel like there's genuine atmosphere to them, like you once were there at the various locations or like you could visit them if you searched. I never got those feelings from 2, ever.
>>342854328
Aside from the puzzles, how exactly is the gameplay dated?
It's just a tried and true derivative of Quake's mechanics and engine, without being bogged down by some of the modern trappings.
>>342854536
Yeah, there are notes all over the game and you have to piece them together to get the code to open the door. Some of them are in maps where you're already locked to a different ending.I just noclipped through the door.
>>342854421
I got the silent hill vibe from the first game, and being stuck in the prison where the zombies come to eat you was hair raising for me.
>that barney who blows the prison door open with a rocket launcher.
>>342854460
What are the best HL2 mods? I only played Underhell and Grey
>>342851041
How many fps actually have good bosses?
>sven coop
>team fortress
>they hunger
>afraid of monsters
>cry of fear
>gunman chronicles
>Earth special forces
>counter strike
>natural selection
this game is a pinnacle of modding
Who /chickencasserole/ here?
>>342852808
>Walking in quake is not the default, though
But that's wrong. I don't know what source port you played, but in Dos Quake you have to press the run button to actually run.
I've attached a webm. Starting run is made at default speed until nearly the end of the 3rd episode hall. Running back I used the Run button. The speed differences are apparent.
>>342854736
Minerva
Mission Improbable
Research and Development
>>342854617
>I never got those feelings from 2, ever.
How the fuck do you play Highway 17 and not feel like its a lived in, real area? That shit is so cool, and I've never felt anything like that in a game before or since.
>>342854750
doom 2
HL1
>>342854790
>gunman chronicles
>mod
That game is underrated as hell and I wish more people appreciated it.
>>342854832
cl_run 1
>>342854156
i share your thoughts man, for some fucking reason since 2014 v is going full hate against HL2 because it wasn't a HL1 remake
i personally think both games/episodes are GOAT on their own and as sequels to each other
>>342854328
it didnt age worse than half life 1, and even though half life 1 combat was better fun, half life 2 was far more visceral, meaty and had good feeling
>>342854567
>shitty chapther with the squad members
u wot
>>342854750
very few, but metroid prime might be one, they are fun
>>342854457
>HL2 set the ground works for the modern set piece driven campaign
HL1 was the game that "set the ground works for the modern set piece driven campaign". HL2 was the same shit with a lot more cutscenes and forced character interaction, i.e. a lot worse.
>>342854750
I liked the bosses in new Doom. Serious Sam has a few fun ones.
>>342854663
>without being bogged down by some of the modern trappings.
Except for all those long ass cutscenes you can't skip. And long ass boat scenes. And long ass driving sequences. It's a big physics demonstration. An impressive physics demonstration sure, but it honestly kills any drive to play it years later because I honestly can't be fucked with those areas.
Half Life is fun to load up today because it has pure focus on shooting and good level design facilitating shooting. Half Life 2 bogs it's mechanics down with too much other shit to make as fun to play years later.
>>342853640
That's how I'm going to describe it from now on.
>>342854832
fine whatever.
But my original point was that Gordon's run is about the same as Ranger's run in speed.
>>342854692
I remember the notes being scattered around the maps, but never really cared much to inspect them.
>To get the gun with infinite ammo, you have to unlock all of the endings
I hated that shit as there were parts of the game that annoyed the living shit out of me, most especially the train station where enemies swarmed you.
>>342854976
Follow Freeman is a bad chapter
it doesn't help that the squad AI is horrible and you can't walk through them so they're constantly bunching up around you and getting in your way
>>342854964
That's not "default".
>>342841423
nothing but a shitty game
>>342854994
>some
>>342841423
Shitty Quake wannabe, only slower and more "cinematic".
>>342854981
HL1 was a good game which set the foundation for CS which despite being much worse was more popular and other games trying to emulate that popularity ruined the fps genre for over a decade.
>>342855067
>let me get out of your way
its a good chapter and the urban combat is amazing, but have to agree on you, ive heard that fucking line so many times, its just fused to my brain
>>342841582
yes
>>342855190
(You)
>>342854981
In a surprising turn, HL2 is the sequel to HL, and built on it a lot.
Also stop bitching about the cutscenes, they're great the first time around and always relegated to their own chapters so you can skip them any other time if you really want to.
>>342854790
>>natural selection
>tfw missed out on NS
>it doesn't have a bot mode
Fuck, is it still alive?
@342855129
not worth a you
>>342854912
I think it started as a mod to Quake 2. Then basically transitioned to a full game. Pretty amazing.
>>342854994
Fuck off, the driving was great. Highway 17 is one of the most atmospheric levels in vidya history.
Also the gravity gun is a great mechanic and holds up, calling it a physics demonstration is just dumb.
>>342841423
Honest answer here. If you've played half life 2. After you play this you'll think half life 2 is shit compared to the masterpiece you've just installed on your pc. There are somd very confusing parts. If you like really fast paced shooters you'll love this. You move so fuckin quick. Sanic sped
>>342854156
They're both good, HL1 is just better.
>>342854869
I never felt anything in those sections. Or any section in 2 honestly. The game feels too estranged from everything human. It's not like in 1 where it was believable locations, people and time. What year did 2 take place do you know? Does it have any concept of time? No. It's just this odd surreal experience. I am genuinely not a fan.
>>342855341
>342855341
It was an HL1 mod but Sierra was impressed by how much work they did on it so they published it as a standalone game.
>>342854736
It's pretty hard to go wrong. Just look HL2 up on moddb and list everything by popularity/rating.
Planetphillip is another good place to look. They also do pretty regular mapping contests so there's always something new to play.
>>342855437
>After you play this you'll think half life 2 is shit compared to the masterpiece you've just installed on your pc.
You almost certainly won't, people who play HL2 first tend to prefer it.
>>342855129
>its not the latest graphics so millennials will think this
>>342855545
I played Half Life 2 first
You're full of shit, Half Life 1 is way better
>>342854156
Don't get me wrong, I like HL2, I just think it's inferior to HL1 in almost every way. Less enemy variety, less weapon variety, spends way too much time shoving the story down your throat, and their attempts to make the game look as realistic as possible really make it feel old.
>>342855434
>Fuck off, the driving was great. Highway 17 is one of the most atmospheric levels in vidya history.
And it's agreed by nearly everyone that it goes on for too long. Driving is not nearly as fun as shooting. It's half decent for a break in action but it outstays its welcome fast.
Who was odessa Cubbage?
Also, do people play Natural Selection.
>>342854994
the bad part about driving sections isn't the driving itself, its that you get off the fucking boat every 3 minutes to get another retarded ass bullshit obstacle out of the way instead of enjoying it then being done with it
>>342855483
It took place about 20 years after 1. They tell you that explicitly. Also genuinely what the fuck are you talking about? HL2 had tons of little details in its environments that made them feel lived in and real, the original had inexplicable architecture out the ass.
>>342854976
It didn't have to be a HL1 remake, it just had to be more game and less novelty attraction.
>>342855328
There are tons of third party bot addons for goldsrc, I'm sure you can find one for NS. All else fails there's probably a steam group for it.
>>342855845
yeah, I played svencoop and TF1 with bots because being a thirdworlder is suffering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKkJPFmDW9Q
Why did Valve remove these things with the later updates?
>>342855759
Its interrupted very regularly though, and its a nice change of pace. I feel like people who complain about those sections don't actually remember them right, the hoverboat section is under 50% driving and the car is even less than that.
>>342855602
Does this even apply anymore? I mean shit there's tons of pixel art games out nowadays. And even low poly is gaining some traction too (and it should really hurry up because I need it). I don't think anyone gets turned down by graphics anymore.
>>342855774
Guy who gives you the rocket launcher in 2.
>>342855981
It probably wasn't intentional. Valve just didn't care enough to fix them.
There's mods to add it all back in though if you care.
>>342856023
>>342856023
I personally found the hoverboat section to be tedious. The dune buggy was fucking fun though.
I forgot what the railway bridge was for
>>342855981
They made some graphical changes to the Steam version like adding widescreen support, suppose it has something to do with that,
>>342855295
>they're great the first time around
Not for me they weren't.
Their attempts to make the characters "likable" fell completely flat, they were just long sequences of unfunny dialogue.
Think about how long it takes before the actual gameplay of Half Life 2 starts. I mean the real gameplay, not the just walking from one scripted cutscene to the next that is the entirety opening. It has to be something close to half an hour, at least. Other games get crucified for that sort of crap and yet Half Life 2 is proclaimed one of the greatest games of all time.
>>342856169
And where might I find these mods?
>>342855759
I liked the driving sections last time I played it. But that may be because I literally just got a high refresh rate monitor and driving felt amazing.
>>342852210
>post yfw you will never get raped in a cave by Mr. Friendly
>>342856134
why did they make him into a character? was he the JarJar of HL2?
>>342856247
HL2 started it, it was novel at the time.
>>342853071
>german version isn't a robot
>>342855295
>they're great the first time around and always relegated to their own chapters so you can skip them any other time if you really want to
You don't get the option to skip chapters until you beat them, and if the cutscenes were so interesting I wouldn't spend so much time throwing shit at NPCs and jumping around waiting for them to end.
>>342856279
teenagers man.
>we finally have the technology to do something like Mr friendly, but it will trigger people so it won't be done.
>>342856350
Half life 1 started it ya dingus. And it didn't take 30 minutes either.
>>342856247
Did you miss that part of 1 where you start with a 10 minute tram ride?
Also games get crucified for that shit if you have no control, HL2 gives you control from the get go. Walking around City 17 at the start is one of my favorite levels just because you can walk around. Same deal with the lab section of Half Life.
>>342841423
the end of the old-school fps
>>342856434
Ironically if they were actual cutscenes I'd probably be more inclined to watch them.
>>342856434
If you're really that impatient that you can't even watch them once you've got console commands.
>>342854004
>Get to play as the military
>Don't have to face any ethical conflicts killing facility personnel
>Instead you get separated and it's just another half-life
Opposing Force was a wasted opportunity.
Dr. Breen did nothing wrong
>>342856645
The opening section in 1 isn't nearly as long as 2. And at least in 1 I can go get a snack during the tram, there's no npc refusing to talk because I'm not standing on the right side of the room.
>>342856534
There were only a few moments like that in HL1 that I remember. The tram ride, waiting to get into the test chamber, that one scientist stopping you in the freezer, getting dragged by the soldiers, and the ending with G-Man. And none of those even come close to how much time HL2 spends on cutscenes. If you pay attention to HL2 speedruns you'll notice they shaved like an hour off the time when they found out how to skip cutscenes.
>>342856534
the tram ride and everything until fucking unforseen consequences is a giant cutscene where you don't have any agency other than spamming E and nuking someone's chicken.
Expect fun. It's the best FPS of all time.
>>342856764
It made up for it
>>342856821
how did they figure that out
>>342856821
Yeah the "cutscenes" in HL1 aren't bad. They're like Quake 2's "COMPUTER UPDATED!" but better.
>>342855981
Didn't they also nerf the fuck out of the MP5?
>>342856793
>The opening section in 1 isn't nearly as long as 2.
Its pretty close. In any case, why are you playing through it if you hate it? Chapter select is a thing.
>>342856950
If you spam quicksave and quickload you can phase through walls/ceilings.
https://youtu.be/dlHmNaB1iMw
How the fuck
>>342856764
>you get to bro out with your military buddies and kill government roasties and alien chads instead
totally worht it
>>342856901
Best girl coming though.
>>342856975
Yeah, its covered in the video. They changed the original MP5 rps from ~11-14 rps to ~7-9 rps.
>>342857179
Gearbox invented portal
>>342857040
>those vocals in the music
wtf
>>342857201
I thought it wasn't just the speed though, the rounds were actually more powerful, weren't they?
>>342857271
Those were always there.
It's the credits music for hl1
>>342856250
http://gamebanana.com/gamefiles/4308
I swear there was another one that covered absolutely everything, but I can't find it at all.
>>342857179
>not the deagle
>not the fucking SAW
>>342857000
>Chapter select is a thing.
after you beat the chapter, meaning you only get to skip hl2 cutscenes after you've already sat though them. skipping entire chapters also means skipping all the gameplay in them.
>>342856645
>Also games get crucified for that shit if you have no control, HL2 gives you control from the get go.
It does no such thing. It gives you the illusion of control because you can still walk around but you HAVE to follow the game's script and you cannot dodge or interrupt the cutscenes. Everything up to Gordon getting the crowbar may as well be pre-rendered for all the effect the player's input has on it. You can't even fucking die. Not because there is no way to, there are multiple ways to die, but because Valve won't allow it. Gordon is set to be invincible.
>>342857040
they really put a lot of love and care in that game
what happened to valve, man
>>342857468
>using the deagle when you can use the revolver
saw is goat because shooting it behind you gives you super speed.
>>342857525
I think I fell off the building and died once
>>342857406
it doesnt fit the game at all
>>342857642
the revolver wasn't in opposing force, clown
>>342857478
>You have to play the game to play the game
That's generally how it works anon.
>>342857584
Started making money for little effort, they then made even less effort and made even more money. Now they don't really care anymore.
>>342855981
I thought the tau cannon seemed off when I last played it
>>342857584
they became successful and realized they could make more money milking existing games than making new ones.
>>342857642
>using a meme weapon when you get a shiny laser sight
why?
SAW also made the best dakka sounds
>>342857249
Was OpFor the only decent thing Gearbox produced?
>>342857304
Not sure, but changing the rps was definitely enough to make the MP5 pretty terrible. Nerfing the bullet damage would be overkill.
>>342857443
Thanks man. Hopefully the mod developer includes the other stuff in the video at some point.
All this half-life talk, yet no freeman's mind?
>>342857721
you sure? it was definitely in the mp.
>>342857675
that's why it's the credits theme
>>342857789
>implying the deagle isn't the ultimate meme weapo
dakka doesn't make up for lack of grenade shootan.
>>342857875
Not in the main game.
go replay it.
>>342857525
You can totally die if you fall off the building. But besides that, you say that like its not better this way. Its easy to be that ass who just fucks around and then whines that the game doesn't accommodate him, but if you play along with the game, which is something Valve makes feel very natural, its a great sequence.
Basically, if you don't want to like it, its very easy to not like it, but if you just act like a normal human being the opening sequence is great.
>>342857821
Freeman's mind was_ok_
>>342857875
To make OP4 compatible with HLDM maps. OP4 deathmatch has very few maps of it's own.
>>342857728
See that's how you do a fucking set piece. HL2 knew how to make shit exciting.
>>342858009
it wasn't even in the base game, and the deagle was able to one shot gonomes.
Fuck me, I hated gonomes.
>fast
>tanky
>ranged
>>342857584
They don't need to make games anymore because steam so they just make prototypes all day that never see full release.
>>342857728
So, why weren't the race X expanded upon?
>>342857040
Man HL1 had some good fucking gibs. There any mods that add gibs to HL2?
>>342857728
didn't that place have a random gunship popping out?
>>342858719
Gearbox made them so they're not part of Valve's canon.
>>342858719
Because Opposing Force isn't really canon.
>>342858719
Valve never figured out if they were going to be canon or not.
>>342858795
SMod added gibbing along with a shitload of new weapons.
>>342858840
>>342858853
>adrian shepard isn't really canon
but he actually saw gordon step into the portal,0 r-ight?
>>342858897
When did it all go so wrong?
>>342858978
as far as the main hl storyline is concerned opposing force didn't actually happen.
>>342858978
Just assume its canon unless contradicted.
>>342859106
the nuke is canon.
But that's the only thing explicitly confirmed
>>342857040
Exploding lips 2 when, marphy
>>342858853
>OP4 isn't canon meme
Itreally doesn't matter. Everything that could be considered lore breaking happens after both Gordon and Barney are out of the picture, and is wrapped up by the end of the game.
>>342858719
>>342858840
>>342858853
>>342858895
>>342859106
>>342859134
but race x would have been perfect to bridge hl1 and hl2
>xen is a borderworld for refugees that are being hunted by the race x
>they try and enter into earth
>events of HL1 happen
>race X tries to invade earth.
>they conquer it.
>begin to lose to earth's diseases
>ask their overlords - the combine - to start terraforming the earth and stripping it of resources.
>>342856434
How does someone become so cartoonishly impatient that that start chimping out at the HORROR of waiting like 2 minutes?
>>342859526
That's the really part of my post.
>>342859607
All the stuff you described Race X doing is that the Combine did in HL2 canon minus the disease thing.
>>342859607
Race X looked way too goofy.
>>342858138
>if you don't want to like it, its very easy to not like it, but if you just act like a normal human being the opening sequence is great.
So basically, if I don't praise a long, boring glorified cutscene and think the characters are hilarious and Barney is my bro and Alyx is my waifu and be utterly amazed that I can either walk that way or walk that way (though there is really only one way to walk) then I'm abnormal? Fuck off.
It's half a fucking hour before you can actually do anything in Half Life 2 but walk forward. I'm not praising that sort of shit, no matter how "natural" you may feel the scripted sequences are. I wouldn't praise it even if I thought it was the best damn cutscene ever made.
Just bought HL1 and 2 with Episodes. But i got black screen with HL1, what the hell, valve.
>>342859758
shock roaches are cute.
>>342859725
>>342859758
race X could just be another of the combine's footsoldier races. Humanity just replaces race X as the combine's new pet.
but yes, they looked goofy.
>>342859760
When specifically talking about the opening where you're walking around, not the later cutscenes, yeah, it is kind of your fault.
Honestly though I think you need to calm down and recognize some people like different things than you, and that the opening is really good even if its not to your tastes.
>>342859760
The way the NPC revere you as some sort of god is what bugs me the most. You can practically feel the developers in some meeting room trying to figure out everything they an to make the player feel special.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slRsexrhbG8
>>342860034
BLAH BLAH BLAH MR FREEMAN
>>342859872
>shock roach crawls at you
>jumps
>you get a cool new gun that does pretty good damage.
neat.
>>342860034
well gordon DOES kill an alien god
>>342860034
Eh, it makes sense, everything is fucked so they turned to whatever heroes they could to give them hope. Plus you kind of earned their admiration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb1DgiJdEBI
>>342860034
>dat elevator with scientists in it.
has it been 9 years
>>342860256
On it's own it would probably be okay. But even people you worked with are doing it. And there's alyx who's all "oh gordan you're sooooo funny teehee"
>>342860034
You're surprised that decades of Chinese whispers has elevated Gordon from lucky survivor to badass hero to messiah in the eyes of others?
>issac kleiner telling everyone to fuck like rabbits
I've been playing the Half Life games in a bit of a mixed order.
Started out with HL2, then did both episodes, then I did HL1, then Opposing Forces, and now I'm gonna do Blue Shift and then Black Mesa.
I think Half Life 1 holds up better than 2 because it has way less unskippable scripted events, which are essentially cutscenes without black bars, and also no driving sections, thank god for that. (unless you count the railway, but even then it's way better than the piece of shit car or that weird airboat)
Although a problem both games have is how enemies don't really react to being shot. The soldiers from HL1 can take like 3 shotgun blasts to kill and won't even flinch. I dunno, it just feels a bit lacking.
Also I had a few issues with ladders and vents, they just seem like too much of a hassle to use.
But hey overall, Half Life 1 is still a surprisingly fun game.
>>342860602
you are not supposed to hit their body armor. The PCV and helmets are resistant to buckshot
>>342860034
Freeman is a self insert for the player and Half Life 2 is full of pandering.
It's what really irritates me when "journalist" and "critics" praise how well written and how much of a "real" female character Alyx is. She is a blatant "waifu" character.
>>342841423
Fast bunnyhopping crowbar action and reused models.
>>342860764
That's irrelevant, half-life enemies do not flinch at all.
>>342860446
Last anyone saw of Gordon before 2 was jumping into a portal to xen, and I doubt they were alive for much longer. And even if they were, then what? Gordon never came back, and things only got worse.
As far as everyone knew, Gordon was dead.
>>342860773
she just seemed like a cool chick to me in HL2.
The waifubait was strong in HL2EP2 though.
>>342860973
what do you mean?
>>342843372
Muh grapichs the post.
>>342860973
Alien Grunts do.
>>342861000
Its established the gman was influencing people in some way while Gordon was gone, blame him.
>>342854790
>>gunman chronicles
Snatched a boxed copy of it on eBay a few months back, glad I did
I still want to know why the fuck they haven't put it on steam
>>342861139
>shoot a bullsquid from behind
>it jumps up like a cartoon woman who just saw a mouse
>>342861116
What he means is Half-Life enemies do not stop an action to play a flinch animation upon receiving a certain amount of damage. If you want an example, play Doom (the original, not the 2016 version). Enemies will flinch all the time in Doom.
>>342861000
Virtually the entirety of the remaining Black Mesa staff knew about Gordon and what he was overcoming on his journey through Black Mesa. Even if they had absolutely no idea what happened on Xen, he'd still be extremely highly regarded. Plus, there were survivors who would've told of his exploits.
>>342860764
Well resistant okay, but come on it's a shotgun blast. It should warrant some sort of reaction. I'm not fighting robots here.
>>342861116
>what do you mean?
Have you ever played doom and done something like interupt an enemy's attack?
Half-life (any half-life) doesn't do that
Once an enemy starts attacking, they won't cease unless you break line of sight or kill them.
You can't go full auto with an SMG to prevent a vortigaunt from charging an attack, like you can a Cacodemon with the chaingun in Doom.
>>342861365
yeah, except grunts did that, vortigaunts ran away, hgrunts ran away and bullsquids did that too.
yes, they didn't get stunned, they behaved dynamically instead.
>>342861291
Probably because the devs are dead. I think Sierra owns the publishing rights but they don't care enough to do it.
>>342861365
They do that in the new one as well. I feel like most games enemies do that.
>>342861291
I don't believe Valve has the full rights to it. It was developed by a smaller company and Sierra was probably involved as well.
>>342861730
The smaller company who developed it was just some shit the mod team threw together, I doubt it exists any more.
>>342861651
So they don't flinch, just as he was saying. Dynamic behavior and flinching are two different things.
>>342841423
One of the greatest videogames ever made
Also don't play Half Life 2, it's shit
>>342843076
Honestly, for someone like me that finds all games to be hyper boring bullshit, Half-Life 1 is probably one of the only games that are worth to play.
>>342861498
>not playing the german version
>>342843058
I love how instead of coming up with a valid argument to him, you just point out a random spelling error. Classic!
>>342861116
>she just seemed like a cool chick to me in HL2
That's the point.
She's a tomboy with a soft side, she's the quintessential "girl for geeks". And she worships Gordon and seeks to impress him and gain his approval from the second she meets him. For an "independent and capable" girl she is certainly quick to submit to the player character despite them having done sweet fuck all but be rescued twice at that point in the game. It's blatant pandering.
>>342862069
whats this meme?
>>342862069
I remember seeing those models in the online modewhich I didn't actually know how to use, I just fucked around on crossfire, and I always wondered what the hell they were.
>>342861368
What exploits? The most impressive thing Freeman accomplished was killing nihilanth, and nobody was around to see it.
Name one thing Freeman did when he could have been observed that warrants turning him into a folk hero.
>>342861291
no need for steam. you can get it for free from moddb
http://www.moddb.com/games/gunman-chronicles
>>342862315
Blew up a man's lasagna
>>342862150
eh, in HL2 she rescues us once at the start and seems to be pretty chill overall.
EP1 she starts being a little bit of a waifu character but its alright
EP2 was pretty fucking waifubaiting.
>>342862230
The hgrunts were turned into robots for the German version, as for some reason depicting violence against humans at the time was haram.
>>342860326
holy fuck I remember this
what happened to it? Didn't he stop after We've Got Hostiles!
>>342845979
I like Alyx though.
I want her to sit on my face.
>>342862315
Shooting his way through a US army branch and alien invasion wasn't an impressive feat?
I'm fairly certain Black Mesa staff saw him do that.
Breen himself was aware of Gordon's actions during the first game. "Some of the worst excesses of the Black Mesa Incident have been laid directly at his feet. "
>>342843372
Why does everyone hate Black Mesa? I thought it was a nice treat if you've already completed the original.
>>342862315
You mean like fighting his way through hundreds upon hundreds of extremely lethal aliens as well as scores of highly trained and well equipped US marines? All while using scavenged weapons and ammunition?
>>342862608
AI is beyond fucked.
>>342862608
probably /v/ being contrarians.
it fleshed out the game and was a pretty cool mod.
>>342862550
>I like Alyx though.
That's the point.
Alyx is an engineered waifu. She positive reinforcement for the player, she's cute and spunky. She's asian.
>>342862315
He survived a massive onslaught of Marines and aliens.
>>342853640
>It's more like Die Hard with science and aliens
I love you.
>>342862608
>I thought it was a nice treat if you've already completed the original.
Yeah, but why would you play the original half-life when the superior black mesa is out :^)
>>342862315
he killed a gargantua with electrotherapy and another with planes
he is pretty based
>tfw no gargantua vs Strider battle
>>342862608
It completely ruins the gunplay, which is the best part of HL. It looks pretty, I'll give it that.
>>342862765
She's Blasian.
>Alyx is an engineered waifu.
True I guess, but she's less obvious than, say, Elizabeth and her Disney Princess face and actions.
>>342862765
If alyx is a waifu, then pretty much every female sidekick is.
>>342841423
Shit graphics
>>342862698
>>342862928
I thought they improved this
>>342863203
when are they not?
>>342843076
>dated
codeword for 'I'm an underaged cretin'
>>342862608
The gunplay is complete ass. Whoever worked on the MP5 needs to be shot.
The animations were absolute minimum effort too. The reanimation mod for the initial mod version is still better than the new animations they came up with for the steam release.
>>342863203
It's not about being nice to the MC, it's acting like "gordan" is this likable personality when he doesn't even talk.
>>342863270
HL:Decay didn't have a waifu.
>inb4 fanfic of collete green and her colleague eating each other out in the shower.
>>342863053
>Elizabeth
How can a girl who only ever interacted with a giant mechanical bird be so socially well adjusted?
>>342842412
>challenging
he didn't ask how difficult mods are, fag
>>342863447
Did anyone ever reverse engineer a pc version?
I miss Valves old sense of atmosphere. I've never felt that specific sublime feeling from another game series, Valve are the only ones who seem to be able to do it. The halflife universe is magical, and if we never get a half life 3 to finish everything, life will always feel incomplete.
>>342862409
Wasn't it a casserole?
>>342863447
>we'll never know what happened to the milf dream team
>>342863547
Yes.
>>342841423
Why don't you fucking play the game and find out?
>>342863447
>HL:Decay didn't have a waifu.
you're right, it had two.
>>342863547
yes it's on moddb.
>>342863569
>that difference in tone between portal 1 and 2
>>342841582
WINNING
>>342842373
>Boring first few minutes
Jesus christ, what a pleb
>>342855981
>current steam version
>no sideways bobbing
What the fuck, I was just playing on Steam and it's got the Quake style tilt.
>>342863613
Lasagna is a casserole stupid head
>>342863203
Honestly, most of the female sidekicks from the games I've played aren't waifus, they are more often than not just portrayed as mere comrades in arms to the player character.
But Alyx is probably one of the most egregious examples of a female sidekick I've come across. Not just because she is a waifu sidekick but because she is one of the biggest kiss ass waifu sidekicks I've ever seen in a game. She absolutely worships Gordon.
>>342863613
yes.
>>342863679
and I guess the original metroid had a waifu as well?
and urban chaos?
makes me wonder how HL decay would be used for clickbait in today's industry
Personally liked it way more than hl2. Never cared about getting hl3 since 2 was a let down for me anyways.
>>342863797
Mine doesn't. What are you talking about?
>>342863941
are you trying to say player characters can't be waifus or that they aren't characters enough to be considered waifus?
Oh-oh, excuse me if I'm interrupting tea time! I'll just step out until you've finished, if that's more convenient!
>>342863890
It's almost as if she's grown up hearing stories about him or something.
>>342864008
I just checked and holy shit you're right, it's gone.
When did they do that? This is bullshit.
>>342864145
what I mean is that every female character in a game doesn't have to be a waifu.
Dawn of war 1 and 2 had female characters that weren't waifubait at all.
>>342864273
Since WON. All those features in the video are long gone.
>>342864345
You underestimate the character of men.
>>342863941
>makes me wonder how HL decay would be used for clickbait in today's industry
Here's how they used to make female characters
>hey you wanna make the main character a chick
>yeah sure
Now you gotta have a fucking reason for making your character whatever they are.
>>342864449
eh, making any character into a waifu is more of a community thing.
>>342857040
>mfw I've never actually stopped and looked at the gibs before
Jesus Christ how horrifying.
>>342864649
the SD models for the zombies show the skulls under the headcrabs.
>>342864345
You're really underestimating what it takes for someone to want to fuck something.
>>342863802
Oh well sorry, we don't have those here
>>342864813
That's one sexy lictor.
>>342864226
You say that like it excuses everything, it makes the situation even worse.
And it doesn't explain the personal relationship with Gordon. Those little bonding sessions you are forced to have with her make little sense when she may as well be talking to a brick wall. Gordon isn't fun, he's an unattractive mute with no personality that is utterly incapable of self direction. What exactly is there to like about that as a person? Alyx is talking to the player, not Gordon. It's pure and simple waifu shit.
>>342864813
see, I am pretty sure there were people that wanted to fuck glados, but that doesn't mean that it was meant as waifubait.
>>342855602
'cept that I'm 35 and when I played the first it went straight to trash bin and installed it back only for DoD.
The sequel was just hype and a tech show full of crap,no wonder they are not releasing hl3
>>342865071
The thing about waifus is that you can't really choose what becomes a waifu and what doesn't. Any character can become a waifu even if it wasn't intended by the original writers.
I feel like Quake and Half-Life ruined me.
First person shooters that don't use close derivatives the quake engine feel so fucking weird to control.
I just started FEAR for the first time yesterday and I don't like the movement at all.
>>342865301
Unreal is like my favorite SP shooter. Yet every time I go back to play it I feel the same way you do.
>>342852310
Blast Pit is pretty memorable
>>342865040
>unattractive
eh, not really.
I guess neo 4chan would call him nu-male.
>>342865296
yeah, I guess.
what a time to be alive eh?
>>342865702
you know it.
I did like Judith
>>342866814
waifu REEE
Peaches like us was great.
Remember when you got mods like USS Darkstar and They hunger on a CD with your PC gamer? Good times.
Walters World on the Planet Half.life site was great too.
so as engineers as alyx is, I can at least appreciate that she does get pissed at the actions of other characters, in ways other than being a voice for the player.
Like her arguments with judith, sure there's shit there for the player to hate too, but Alyx gets bent out of shape the player knows jack shit about.
>>342866996
>Planet Half.life
it was like a dream of better days
>>342857040
That montage is fucking art.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIBOsznM02c
Hmmm. A Combine zombie. That's, that's like a...a.. Zombine! Right? Heh... Zombine, get it? Heh heh. Okay.
>>342867912
Ahahaha
>>342867912
comfy
>>342866996
>Gamespy's last hurrah before dying was server hosting for Red Dead Redemption
What a strange company they where
>>342863679
>you're right, it had two.
>those cut colette dialogue lines
hnng
Should we be glad or sad that Half Life 3 will never come out?
>>342868874
I don't know, I haven't played it yet
>>342866996
>implying anyone here knows about planet half-life and fragmaster
come on
>>342868874
Valve would never be able to meet the hype, it would be DNF all over again.
>>342868874
I dunno. I'm still kind of angry valve is taking their sweet time, while still having the balls to be so dodgy about it.
I want it to be GOTYAY, but I don't expect it to be objectively bad.
>>342869130
Duke was a mediocre game, hype or not.
I trust valve to make a better game than Gearbox.
>>342857584
>some Half-Life deathmatch maps (Quake DM remakes)
>Opposing Force (Gearbox)
>Blue Shift (Gearbox)
>Decay (Gearbox)
>Deathmatch Classic (Quake DM remake)
>Counter-Strike (hired mod team)
>Team Fortress Classic (hired mod team)
>Day of Defeat (hired mod team)
>Counter-Strike Xbox (Turtle Rock)
>Counter-Strike Condition Zero (Rogue/Gearbox/Ritual/Turtle Rock)
>Counter-Strike Condition Zero Deleted Scenes (Ritual)
>Counter-Strike Source (Turtle Rock)
>Half-Life 2 Deathmatch (Turtle Rock)
>Portal (hired Digipen college students)
>Left 4 Dead (Turtle Rock, based off of CSS bots)
>Left 4 Dead 2 (Turtle Rock)
>Alien Swarm (hired mod team from UT2004)
>Counter-Strike Global Offensive (Hidden Path of Defense Grid)
>Dota 2 (hired IceFrog, secured Dota IP, gave Blizzard the finger)
I did the hard work so you guys can figure out what Valve has done
>>342868874
Glad.
Gabe has said they would never release a Half Life 3 that isn't full of micro-transaction bullshit.
>>342853242
go install and play it now. don't get me wrong, I love dav's work, but az isn't better than blue shift.
>>342869643
It's good until you have to drag Kate around and deal with the awful goldsrc AI.
>>342868795
what?
>>342869821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHTmaQl-ef8
>>342869328
Thank God
Finally Finally one person who remembers
Valve was never good and did nothing except give people tools
>>342869643
I just finished it
It's great apart from some maps being too bloated and large
>>342868874
I would be happy if they still kept making single player games at least.
>>342841423
The best single player FPS ever made.
>>342869921
what a perky gal
>>342870184
Single player games aren't as profitable. At least they will never release a purely single player game, whatever it is expect tacked on MP and a cash shop.
>>342841582
Literally entered this thread to say that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpCv12q6fFI
This review is 100% correct. I dare anybody on /v/ to refute a single point of this.
>>342869979
Well first off they made HL, so of course they were at least once good. Second, they didn't just steal those teams ideas, those people are part of Valve. They take in good developers with ideas and flesh them out with a team of other really good developers. Valve is the difference between narbacular drop and portal.
>>342870518
Well I'm 10 seconds in and already he's wrong. People don't think of HL2 as the first next gen game of the PS3/360 era.
>>342870518
already posted
>>342870518
Alright I'm a further 20 seconds in and he's claiming source is a bad engine in an era with some phenomenally shitty engines so that's strike 2.
>>342870541
Valve is also the reason modern TF2 exists.
>>342870518
And 5 seconds later he's denying that HL2 is a real sequel as if that's a thing that means anything. I think three things in a minute is enough.
>>342841423
a experience better than sex
>>342870518
stop shilling your videos here, kid
>>342870869
They're also the reason old TF2 exists, so mixed bag there.
>>342870869
what is this hat made for?
>>342871040
It was a promo for Alien Isolation I think.
SQUAD
MOVE
IN
>>342870997
Old TF2 was nine years ago.
>>342871223
It stayed good for quite a while after that though.
>>342869123
"I'M KEVIN 'FRAGMASTER' BOWEN, AND AS SOON AS I FINISH EATING THIS TWINKIE, I'M GONNA-"
And then Vince Lombardi blew his head off with a shotgun after using marketing strategy on a little girl.
Goddamn I loved Planet Half Life.
>>342871391
Yeah but the bad changes creeped in really slowly, a lot of people didn't notice until it was too late.
>>342866996
That CD was awesome.
That poor scientist never DID get Gravy Trader running...
>>342870280
>>342870184
To be fair, even half-life 1 and 2 had multiplayer.
>>342841423
a cliffhanger
>>342856478
"Trigger" had never been used in a sentence like that back then, anon.
>>342871629
That was back before today's microtransaction-dlc-cancer-fest.
>>342849249
They went back to the drawing board late in the game's development. And thank goodness for that. The final product is WAY more polished than the leaked alpha that made rounds in recent years. It was still just a less refined version of Quake back then. Albeit with non hostile scientist mobs.
>>342871849
As long as the basic game was untouched, valve could put as many hats at they want into Hl3 deathmatch
>>342871147
GO!
RECON!
>>342862457
I was just playing HL2 a few minutes ago, and I remember Alyx saying stuff like "I know we haven't known each other for very long, but be careful", or something similar. Face it, the romance isn't that subtle.
>>342871980
I would tolerate hate but if they started selling guns and you had to play into the stupid trading market in order to get new ones I'd bail.
>>342871849
I feel like TF2 is the only game that really suffers from the F2P balance issues, they toned it down sufficiently for CS:GO and Dota 2 has none of it.
>>342872035
She actually says "thanks for coming back for me." Not "but be careful."
>>342871629
That was back when PC was the true master race, because you could get a million mods.
>>342871629
Got nothing against multiplayer as long as there is still a hefty single player component too.
But yeah I haven't played anything from Valve since Portal 2.
>>342872229
If there's any game they would try to bring paid mods back for it's HL3.
>>342872313
not the next elder scrolls?
>>342870518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ7vcY-b5kg
>>342872305
Valve hasn't made anything since Portal 2.
>>342871629
Now that you mention it, aside from the various expansions like Opposing Force, Blue Shift, Episode One, and Episode Two (the first two were not even done by Valve), I think the only game Valve has ever done that was purely a single player experience was Portal. Even Portal 2 had that co-op campaign.
>>342871629
Half-Life 2 didn't launch with multiplayer, IIRC. That was added shortly after. For a while I only had CS for my source engine multiplayer fix.
>>342871964
I just wish all the cut areas and enemies were still in the final build. Areas like in the picture (the marine camp which would have been in Surface Tension).
>>342872502
The next Elder Scrolls is just a rerelease of the last one which is the one they already tried that shit on.
>>342872564
Hl2 deathmatch launched 14 days after hl2
>>342872313
I don't mind paying for mods, if they are real games, like Portal was. They can fuck right off, if they want to limit modding communities though.
>>342872626
that makes it sound even more likely.
>>342841423
Don't forget to get some mods to improve the experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW-wSti5Y6M
>>342872579
I'm always sad about cut content, but in their defense, the campaign was anything but short. It would have made for good content in an expansion though.
As for enemies, they really could have left a few more varieties in there. I think Kingpin looks fucking awesome.
>>342872716
The limiting of the mod community came from the modders who wanted to people to pay for their mods with the new system. I remember one of them added something fucked up like every time you used one of their spells from their free version there was a 1% chance for a popup asking you to buy it.
>>342872667
In my defense, I was really chomping at the bit for something other than Counterstrike, so it probably felt a lot longer to me.
>>342872845
The cut content from HL1 kind of sucks but all they things they cut from HL2 is a fucking tragedy. The old grimy city looks so much better than the one they ended up doing.
>>342871104
cute desu
>>342872035
eh>>342872213
Anyone else following ross after freeman's mind? His own gaming review channel is pretty high quality with lots of retro content
>>342872845
It does look neat. At least Valve was nice enough to leave the cut monsters in the game files so modders could make use of them.
>>342871104
Yes, yes it was. Came with a body costume and a flamethrower variant too.
>>342870518
HL2 is crazy overrated by mainstream gaming media, but it's still a good game overall. The awkward shoved in story elements are weird.
Plus that guy is a huge casual, I wouldn't take him too seriously.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSQkNTsd6eA
HL1 is still amazing and holds up really well today.
>>342873008
Nah, the City 17 we got looks better. Everyone just likes to romanticize what might have been.
>>342873008
>>342873683
If nothing else, I resent the fact HL2 doesn't have about twice as many monster types. HL1 really spoiled us there. Weapons too. I will never not be mad that two whole episodes came and went and didn't give us new guns.
>>342870518
>hates Seriosus Sam
what a fag
>>342873683
t. never looked at the concept art or played the leak
>>342873846
Concept art is concept art, it always looks better than the final game. Thats the point. I played the leak though, its definitely not as good as what we got.
>>342873478
Sure. Great stuff. Mainly interested in the Game Dungeon only though.
>>342873825
HL2 has all its bases covered weapons-wise. There's no reason to add shit when it has no purpose. The original suffered from that quite a bit.
>>342853071
>italian nihilanth
they didn't even try
>>342854156
God this kid pisses me off, he sounds like a fucking prepubescent faggot trying to stay relevant in an ever changing world.
>oh I hate half life 2 because of memes!!
No you hate half life 2 because your trying to stay relevant you fuck.
Half life and Half life 2 are great games that still hold up today, take off the nostalgic glasses and realize that Half Life 2 was actually really god damn good and improved on EVERYTHING that made half life good.
Half life 2 and Half Life were also fucking tech demos, go into the game expecting a tech demo for an engine they are trying to push and it becomes apparent how much they push for it
Half life 1 has, "HEY LOOK AT OUR TEXTURES AND MODELS ARN'T THEY COOL AND REVOLUTIONARY?!"
Half life 2 has "HEY LOOK AT OUR PHYSICS ARN'T THEY COOL AND REVOLUTIONARY?!"
This little fuck is literally just complaining to complain, the fucking "man of few words" shit stops after THE FUCKING INTRO, you wont hear another word about gordon talking from route kanal to Anti Citizen one until breen starts fucking talking and trying to convince you to stop your shit.
Half life took linear fps's with no story and made them into something that had a story, it was revolutionary for its time. This kid is complaining because MUH NOSTALGIA. Half life rightfully claimed its shit because IT DID WHAT NO OTHER COMPANY DID TO THE GENRE. Half life was about as influential to the FPS genre as stephen king was the horror genre. But once you take off your nostalgia glasses you realize its a great tech demo and thats it.
The crowbar and M.I.T shit is supposed to be nods to the first game, nothing else but this kid is somehow fucking offended by them. Most of his complaints are miniscule and hes complaining to complain. Little shit needs to get over himself and realize that half life 1 and half life 2 were great games and helped grow the FPS genre and as much as you hate half life 2 it is still a great sequel.
Kid can go fuck himself.
>>342874162
It had all the weapons covered because all the enemies are weak as fuck so your basic SMG does the job for you. You start adding alien grunts to the game and you'll wish that tau cannon wasn't strapped to the fucking car.
>>342874162
That's the problem. I don't care about the "bases."
>pistol, shotgun, machinegun
Fuck the formulas. I want wasp guns, detpacks, gluon beams, snarks, you name it. Fuck convention in a game about crazy fucking aliens invading earth.
>>342874256
>and improved on EVERYTHING that made half life good.
Except for AI, enemy aggressiveness, and difficulty.
>>342874349
They added hunters and it worked out pretty well. Definitely the best thing to come out of Episode 2, and Episode 2 was really good.
>>342874450
Yeah, fuck good design, I want my game to be a bloated trainwreck.
>>342874587
>AI sucks meme
It only sucks when they're forced in closed environments that don't allow NPCs to reach their full potential
>>342874587
In what universe did difficulty make Half Life good?
>>342874745
Good design is giving players fun toys. If you want tacticool combat, fuck off to whatever vanilla modern shooter you come from.
