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>>342839810
>NO
>Also has a no symbol
That's a double negative! Which is proof positive!
>>342839810
>people bought into this scam
>>342840407
t.proud star citizen contributor
>$114million
>into the pockets of a few meme game developers
>no game delivered
>new TOS that no refunds will be given
LOL
>>342839810
>paying thousands of dollars for pixels
>>342839810
>people paid for nothing
>some people are still happy about it
>>342840667I just wanted to reference Clue actually.
>>342841460
who?
>>342840938
>no refunds will be given
How can they just changed their TOS and not give refunds. Isn't refunds for purchases legislated? These pricks should go to prison.
>>342840938
i've never accepted the new ToS's, and they still deny refunds.
>>342842474
They are con artists, read more at
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/06/star-citizen-fidelity-of-failure/
basically, if you aren't american youre fucked.
CIG/RSI has won atleast one case in the UK and now an EU case against them seems pointless.
>>342842824
>Since most gamers don’t ever read these things, it is to be assumed that most would just merrily click on the new ToS “agree” button, as that was the only way they could gain access to the game they had already paid for.
This is what clinches it. They have agreed to the old TOS, paid their money, and to keep playing the game they have to agree to new TOS which states they can't get their money back. Complete fucking scam.
>>342843171
part of EU law is that they are not allowed to offer less rights than what the laws already do.
basically, they cannot enforce any of the parts that say "no refund", but they still do.
you literally cannot do anything against them but take them to court.
because the customer support straight out have a policy to tell you no and put you on a permanent "do not reply list"
>>342842824
>believing anything from Dr. Derek Smart MD PhD
>>342843537
>you literally cannot do anything against them
You can't do anything against anyone that has wronged you except take them to court. Apart from non legal options obviously.
>>342843828
t. another happy contributor
lol
>>342843925
they literally have policies to turn away all customers seeking refuneds they have legal rights to.
it's pretty shit policy to have, and you can't report them to authorities because they have 4 shell companies and the assets aren't reported at all.
they literally running a scam.
>>342839810
Overwatch too. Blizzard shills have an all sales are final policy on games they let you pre-order.
so If I'm american and haven't agreed to the new tos, can I still get a refund?
>>342844069
agree with you 100% mate. They are scum. Just saying when scum takes your money through theft/deceit/etc there's nothing you can do except take them to court. Their policies, which I think will be their downfall if they ever get to a supreme court, or legislation don't grant them any special loopholes.
>>342842716
Maybe their old ToS said they can change the ToS at anytime.
I'm just lmaoing at all the people that bought into kikestarter. Not even once. Hope you guys learned your lesson.
>>342844513
I'd try to asap, these new TOS are basically trying to cover their bases to give the bare minimum back. Longer you wait, worse your chances.
>>342844513
take them to court while you can.
contact derek smart, he'll be happy to help.
if you've spent more than 500$ it might be worth it.
there's loads of lawyers out there that want a piece of CIG
At least in the US isn't it law that "agreeing" to TOS that disobeys federal law doesn't actually bind you to the contract?
>>342844624
>Maybe their old ToS said they can change the ToS at anytime.
that would never hold up in court fyi. It's the equivalent of a contract where one party can change the terms whenever they like. They can change it, but it other party needs to accept it. Acceptance cannot be automatic.
>Hope you guys learned your lesson.
literally this. Dumbfucks giving their money away to feel special and getting jewed.
>>342839810
sauce on the vid? i wanna laff at it
>crazy budget
>long over deadline
It's almost like this exact same thing has happened before and history does, in fact, repeat itself.I just hope the end result is as fun as freelancer
>>342845042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VltHlKsGgvM
>lame slutty gamer girl
>cuck yellow gamer happy to give away money
kek away friend friend
>>342845195
I don't know why Gus is being so forgiving. The Know probably makes anyone they use dicksuck any game they discuss so they can keep getting shillbux.
>>342845195
I DUNNO WHAT'S FUNNIER
DESE """""""gamers"""""""
OR THE NO REFUND POLICY
>>342844879
>if you've spent more than 500$ it might be worth it.
>more than 500$
W-what
>>342845632
Have you not heard of the absurd payment tiers for Star Citizen?
Still not as big a scam as pic related
>>342845754
how much money has this kiked out of people?
>>342839810
>people fell for the "BEST SPACE GAME SIMULATION EVER, YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING"
>just give us all your money, you'll see
I now see why the world is burning, the people living in it are complete fools
>>342839810
post yfw you didn't give scam citizen money
>>342845754
>tfw you donated to the Homosuck kickstarter
>>342842824
>Derek Smart
>Not a complete fuckin con man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au6mMl5A79Q
>>342844513
You were never entitled to a refund, they are given out on a case by case basis.
The idea of any in development crowdfunded game giving out refunds is hilarious and wrong. Pledges are not buying anything.
How do they manage to fuck up making a game with over 100 million dollars? Was Chris Roberts eating the budget away with his yacht's and Ferraris?
>>342845754
Never heard of it, what's the story?
>>342839810
This is people get for backing projects that ask less than they need to develop a game and that put a deadline that wont be enought to finish the game
>>342846001
>hehehhe
>HHEHEHEHEE
>hehehehehehhe
I dont give a fuck if dsmart is a worse conman than jew citizen but that video was insufferable. I lasted about 1 minute
>>342845932
>likes homestuck
>gave money to kikestarter
>finds jojo meme shit funny
checks out
>>342846286
Hussie gave millions to a studio to work on the game, studio instead used all of the money to make their own game and told him to fuck off or they would sue him.
>>342846001
Is it even possible for Derek to get a word out before his own feet dive into his mouth?
>people dropped hundreds/thousands on scam citizen
>>342846439
Who is Hussie?
>see star citizen
>holy fuck this game is ultra super mega awsome
>dont back it because I dont prepay games, and without receiving my money back this would be equal to prepaying a game
>discover rogue system
>way better than star citizen while being developed by just one guy (at least it was at the time) and way smaller buget
>>342846286
So you have this guy Andrew Hussie who makes this webcomic called Homestuck. Initially it's like a modern day Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy, but in a moment of brilliance/sadism, Hussie introduces 12 alien characters all of whom are "trolls" and based on Tumblr stereotypes and astrology signs
This naturally makes the readership swell to absurd size, and cause autism the likes that had never been seen before.
Hussie, now with a huge fanbase, makes a Kickstarter for a point and click "Homestuck Adventure Game", but with a different cast because his webcomic was far too big and autistic to give a video game to
He raises 2.5 million dollars on Kickstarter
He promises the game will be out by 2012
He hires a studio called "The Odd Gentlemen" to develop his game, apparently they just embezzle the money and make King's Quest instead lol
But he doesn't sue The Odd Gentlemen, so he's either a pussy or was dipping his hand into the pot himself
TLDR: Webcomic raises millions of dollars for video game, fails to deliver it, scams all his fans worse than Con-Man
>>342846612
Go google it dumbfuck.
>>342846439
I really wish Hussie had taken them to court. It would have put the game off even longer but there's no way he would lose, what they did was absurdly illegal. The nigger is too nice for his own good.
>>342846575
I am clueless about all this story, why it is a scam?
I only discovered it on kickstart a month after it ended, and with all those space games being made forgot to go back to look at more info
>>342846672
wow rude
>>342846665
>There are people that actually know Hussie for Homestuck and not Problem Sleuth
>And they post on 4chan
>>342846824
It's taking a really fucking long time to make, also people are forgetting Squadron 42 (Wing Commander like story game) is being developed before Star Citizen, and CIG is very secretive about its development.
SC has made enough progress to keep me happy, plus the asset leak was plenty of evidence they're getting shit done.
>>342846937
>there are people who actually know Hussie
kys
>>342846937
>le I know this shady merchant from before he was cool
kill yourself
>>342846665
wew lad what a storywho is Con man ?
>>342847018
>>342847064
>Taking pride in being a newfag
>>>/out/
>>342839810
Is this the game where people payed thousands of dollars for virtual space ships?
>>342847142
Chris Roberts because hes taking a long time to make a video game, hence the scam stuff.
>>342846968
>It's taking a really fucking long time to make,
How this make the game scam?
>developers says that they will put alot of bullshit on the game
>"the game wont be released, this is too much, its a scam"
>developers says that they will put alot of bullshit on the game
>developers spend an extreme amount of years doing the game
>its a scam
By that logic dwarf fortress is a scam, he started to develop it on the year 2002 and didnt finished it yet
>>342847172
>taking pride in knowing some obscure hack
>implying you're an oldfag
gb2r
>>342842824
>Linking Derek Smart
>Seriously
HAHAHHAHHA
>>342839810
Anyone who donates to kickstarter is cancer killing vidya. Same about buying shit from ingame shops.
>>342847292
>By that logic dwarf fortress is a scam, he started to develop it on the year 2002 and didnt finished it yet
Except Toady is a one-man team, has never asked for money or made his game less than totally free, and has actually made shit-tons of progress in the same time frame that SC has accomplished nothing.
>>342847292
but Dorf fortress is actually a game
Star citizen is somewhat between NMS and Cube world
>>342847292
t. happy cuck
>>342847613
>but Dorf fortress is actually a game
It wouldnt be if he wanted to reach current stat without releasing an alpha first
How much of the backer money did they spend on this baby?
https://vine.co/v/itelIwgEP9z
>>342839810
So glad I got my full refund.
>>342847961
I hope you never back another
>>342848052
Never ever m8.
Never ever.
I'm amazed people keep gaping their asshole and taking it dry everytime they ask for more money
>They've completely abandoned the Redeemer
Shame
>>342846665
holy shit
those scumbags are doing the king's quest "sequel;" As if I needed more reason to hate them
>>342848183
good lad
>>342847702
I didnt backed the game and think there are better space games being developed like, rogue system and infinity quest of earth, so I will problably not buy the game after its made.
The point is that to games that will have an extreme amount of things on it, you need an extreme amount of time to make them.
Without an extreme amount of time to make games, we wouldn't have stuff like dwarf fortress as some example.
>>342848579
>Games take time to develop
Anon, no stop that. The underage only know of the two year development time that Call of Duty has.
>>342847613
>Cube World
I was so excited for this and then Wollay shat on my hopes and dreams.
>>342842824
>dereksmart
I thought you guys were smarter than this
I mean Star Citizen is one thing but this guy is an even bigger hack
>>342847540
>has never asked for money or made his game less than totally free,
He actually said, the reason he is only working on 64bit version now its because it would take alot time to be developed and people would problably stop donating if this spend this huge time not releasing updates.
Then he saw that people spend still spent money during his "2 years to update" thing and now he know they can handle this.
>Those TOS changes
Good goy, pledge now
>>342846706
Didn't they have a contract that totally allowed Odd Gentlemen to take the money and run? I know that similar situation occurred with Yogventures. If that's the case then Hussie can't do shit because he already set the terms in writing and gave it to them.
It sucks, but it's almost impossible to undo something when it's in writing.
>>342848579
This.
Please keep giving Chris Robert's his luxury vacation money so he can maybe work on star citizen and release it in 30 or so years.
>>342839810
>PC exclusives
smdh
>>342848762
>Guy charges 100 dollars to play his mid 2000s-tier early access "MMO"
>Was so bad it was pulled from Steam
>Everything he's ever released has been complete shit, actual shit games
>People cite him in their shitposting
>Some even do it seriously
I don't get it. Smart is a failure and a complete fraud.
>>342849346
Better respond to yourself a few more times so it looks credible
>>342845089
>end result
anon I have bad news.
>>342847292
Honestly because its fun to make SC fans upset by saying its a scam. Realistically they've done nothing wrong but take a long fucking time to make a game, they had a ton of stretch goals which made it worse.
I still look forward to it but I'm not hyping it like a moron.
>>342848579
>promises made in gameplay and time expected were never delivered upon
>promises are later changed
b-but it takes time
>>342849346
Because SC is fun to make fun of, its probably going to end up being legit awesome though.
Derek is hilarious because hes fucking insane and every word he says is comedy gold.
>>342847292
Witcher 3 was a scam as well, but here we're [current year]
at this point, I don't think /v/ knows at all what it's talking about when it comes to this game.
>>342839810
This dumb fucker knows he went way beyond what he or anyone on his team is capable of. Anyone who could have possibly salvaged this burning wreck jumped ship ;) long ago.
Fucking hack is the epitome of 'idea guy'
>>342848579
THERE
IS
NO
GAME.
That is the scam. Oh my fucking God people. It's like you go out and buy Skyrim, and you only get the tutorial section with the promise of getting the rest of the game in next 20 years.
I'm so fucking happy about this. 114M $ fools' money. The people who pledged to this scam absolutely deserve it. I hope with the eventual collapse of this shit, the early acces meme ends.
>>342848579
>infinity quest of earth
never got why people don't shit on that guy more, feel like I've been watching that guy develop his shit for the better part of a decade.
Yet star citizen gets shit all over.
assuming the money is where the hate comes from.
>>342839810
>Retroactivly saying "NO REFUNDS"
That shit ain't going to fly in a court of law, and its just going to piss off the community.
Be sure to demand your refund now, and insist you are holding them to the terms of your original contract. Then when they say "fuck no" you can sue for breach of contract and maybe even make it into a class action suit
>>342850072
>There is no game
Shit, I guess I've been dreaming this whole time.
>>342850072
I want to see how far the denial goes. In 2019 they'll release something, a mediocre FPS with some mediocre dogfighting, and there'll still be people sayin they love it and that's exactly what they wanted.
Feels good man to see the project coming together
>>342844070
I got a refund on the pc version.
I had to tell them my PC couldn't run it at minimum settings though.
>>342842824
HI Derek Smart, i didn't know you were a /v/ poster
>>342849734
>promises are later changed
EVERYONE CHECK THIS
I really didnt knew this happened.
Oh yes, if they made that, its TOTALLY OK to get angry with them.
And I also getting angry at this now.
Anyway, as a similar example, I got so angry with an game called dead linger last week that I got an headache, and I didnt even backed or brought the game.
PS: this dead linger, is a game that said that would be a real zombie game (instead of those zombie safari games), or "deathmatch in a map with zombies and food", the game was released at beta (at least compared to what the game would be) and last year they said they wont be making the game anymore because the lack of funds
>>342850435
> I guess I've been dreaming this whole time.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Maybe it's time to wake up.
>>342850467
Yeah. Still not complete, but you can see it coalescing. Arena Commander is also fun as shit.
>>342846937
I believe the point of the story was to talk about Homestuck and it's relevance to the game.
Talking about Problem Sleuth would not have been relevant.
Always do the contrary of what /v/ says.
Game is already a blast despite the numerous bugs and the content being sparse. Hopefully 2.7 will bring planets and 2.5 cargo.
>>342850902
No one said it was close to completion, but it's definitely headed in the right direction and coming together fast.
>>342850914
Literally happy cuck.
>>342850914
How delusional are you?
>game is fun despite it being broken and empty
Hooooooly fuck
>>342850873
Yeah man. Where's that lamp that is off? I need to find it. Maybe it's 2007 still.
>>342850528
>>342850723
>>342851010
Nice meme!
>>342850914
>he lets conmans take his money
>>342851007
>No one said it was close to completion
Fuck me, anon didn't say it was close to completion either. You agree with anon but still have to try to demonstrate a sense of superiority.
The fuck is wrong with you?
>>342851052
>basic mechanics work fine
>multicrew is working perfectly fine
>exploration is fun
>controls are tight
>ships control really well, all of them are dynamically destructible, parts destroyed dynamically change the way they handle because it's all physics driven
I know you don't give a fuck about the game, space games are typically niche and this is /v/ where console users are a majority, but at least freshen up your bait a little. We have a dozen of space stations, a couple of asteroid belts in a gigantic open world map.
>>342850454
I can guarantee it. The cult comparisons arent a joke, some people lose all sense of logic when they fanboy a game.
I almost wish Roberts declared himself a deity so we can see at least a dozen RSI and redditors posters start a church in his name.
>>342851281
Looks great, coming together nicely ;)
https://youtu.be/W1Jw7Kx80f4
>>342839810
My MFG Crosswinds finally arrived the other week. Shit is tight. The real deal.
AC got a ton more fun once I got the pedals all configured.
>>342851129
Well, what else do you call a happy scam victim?
>>342851353
>early alpha has bugs
STOPS THE PRESSES STAR CITIZEN IS FINISHED!
>>342851281
>Play ED while waiting for SC to further develop
>Occasionally hop onto SC when I get tired of ED's bullshit
>Covalex shipping hub has more meaningful exploration than the entirety of ED combined
It feels bad man. I wish FDev weren't so incompetent. Last update they put out gave slightly different colored bullets and a plethora of bugs.
>>342851512
>tfw I didn't even know you could get a good ending for the Covalex Personal Investigator quest
Fuckers are well hidden.
>>342851353
Am a backer.
Videos like this are funny as shit. I love the stupid brokenness of the game so far. Wish it was done, but I can wait for a solid product. Will put up with anons' shit until then. :3
>>342851506
I'll see you in five years when we're still in "early alpha" my friend ;)
>>342839810
>this thread
>t. shill
>buy my game by derek smart goy
>>342851506
>muh alpha
>10 years later
>will still be in alpha-beta riddled with AIDS cause they cant get even a tenth of the 100 star systems in 4 years
Star Citizen is a failed project. They are burning money at this point.
>>342851235
He's overly defensive because he got scammed.
>people still believe a small team can effectively use that much money to create a high budget game
It takes a shit load of people to make a AAA game. It's not some easy pisswork. Anyone who donated is a fucknut in the first place with too much money to blow.
>>342851076
TLDR
I was assuming THIS:
>"I WILL GAME WITH ALL THOSE FEATURES, X, Y, Z,W . SEND ME MONEY"
>SPEND ALOT OF TIME DOING IT
>PEOPLE COMPLAIN
When in fact what is happening is this
>"I WILL GAME WITH ALL THOSE FEATURES, X, Y, Z, W..... SEND ME MONEY"
>"GAME WONT HAVE FEATURE Z OR W"
>PEOPLE COMPLAIN
Its ok to complain if you are at situation 2 (the situation we are at now, but I didnt knew that we were at) but not if you are at situation 1
>>342851606
I've completed that quest several times, but only recently found the good ending. I've never been able to end up back at Olisar due to a bug from further exploration or being killed somehow. But that extra bonus you get from the lady is nice. It let me buy a pirate armored suit.
>>342851820
Its worse than that. They have around 300 people last i heard and still fucked it up.
>>342851676
I mean, look, I get that some folks are pissy about Star Citizen.
But you have to be delusional to think Smart's games look better. Like, shit... here's an actual broken-ass game, and here's Star Citizen alpha.
Mars-One will complete their mission before this game gets anywhere close to what was promised.
>>342843828
DERICK SMART'S DESKTOP COMMANDER
>>342846665
>Homosuck funded Kings Quest
That might have been a wiser investment in the long run.
>>342851356
Do pedal setups actually help?
How do they stack up versus M+K? My gut is telling me that pedals and all that stuff may have a higher skill ceiling but that M+K are gonna romp you any day of the weak because of how streamlined it is.
>>342851885
At the moment its
>SOME OF FEATURE A IS SORT OF WORKING AND FEATURE B AND C ARE BROKEN AS FUCK BUT WE PATCHED IN 1/15 OF FEATURE D AND IT TOOK US 6 MONTHS BUT THE GAME WILL BE OUT IN GOOD TIME PROMISE ;)
>cue star citizen fanboys cumming over a WIP clothing shop and calling rational complaints trolling
>>342851919
>300 people
>>342852271
A mouse is better for aiming gimbal weapons and offers precision a stick has a hard time matching. Actual flying and maneuvering is handled better by a stick though.
>>342851820
> to create a high budget game
They already said the game wont have some features they promised, this already happened.
You don't need to guess if the game will be finished or not.
If some company at the year 2000 say they will do a game equivalent to gta san andreas, but before finishing it, say they wont add some stuff and the game will be more like gta 1, the game WILL NEVER BE FINISHED
No matter how much money you spend on them or how much time they spend developing it, the game wont be gta san andreas, so in theory you should stop giving this company money.
This is what the guy that are still giving them money don't see.
DONT GIVE MORE MONEY TO STAR CIZITEN THE GAME THEY ARE DEVELOPING IS NOT STAR CIZITEN ANYMORE
IF YOU BACK DAY Z STOP GIVING MONEY TO THE COMPANY IF THEY SAY THEY WILL DO LEFT4DEAD INSTEAD OF DAY-Z
>>342852294
>IT TOOK US 6 MONTHS
You mean ED, right?
>Engineers update is delayed for six months
>Releases and is full of bugs, broken in many ways and generally unfun
>>342851919
>300 people
hahhahahaa holy shit
>>342852576
Shit, Derek is legitimately in this thread. Shouldn't you be developing your game, Derek?
>>342851919
Fucked what up exactly anon, their contracted companies are the fuckups. Ever since they brough modeling and development of fps in house things have actually fucking improved.
CGBot and Illfonic are fucking trash.
>>342852781
It's not Derek, hes confirmed to not know what 4chan is beyond the name.
>>342852794
That excuse should hold the retards like you off for another few months while they think of something better
>>342846937
>there are people that know about a fag for the thing that made him an e-celebrity, and not the thing that didn't
>fucking scandalous!
>>342850435
>19 fps
seems about right.
>>342852587
Nope, star citizen.
If CIG was even close to the empty grinding shell of Frontier's spess game, they'd declare themselves victorious and release a documentary of their great achievement.
Ive accpeted that ill probably buy CODinSpace, since even a casual shootemup will be more enjoyable than these pedigree wrecks.
>>342852490
Would a somewhat more expensive joystick with a built-in analog nub be worth it to get around this issue?
>>342852781
>People say I am a shill for star citizen
>Then say I am derek smart
What a weird world to live
What is stranger is that on other threads people usually complain about my english skills, glad to see I am improving it
>>342852794
>still having fuckups this late into development
Anon...
>>342852794
>shifting the blame on anyone but Roberts
You cucks will even put Foundry42 under the knife before you admit the guy up top is the problem.
>>342845754
Weren't their funds embezzled though? To the point where everything Hussie had going for him, including his webcomic, went off the fucking rails?
>>342853130
You are almost Indian customer support tier now, keep it up
>>342852930
>CGBot does models
>Barely any ships get made, 300i, Hornet, Mustang and Avenger are made and broken as fuck with awful models
>Ship development handed off to Frankfurt, Austin and LA offices
>Gladius, Sabre, Freelancer, Constellation Rework, Vanguard, Retaliator, Gladiator, Starfarer, Gemini, Reliant, Xian Scout and Idris Remodel are all finished in half the time it took CGBot to make 4 ships
Hi, you have zero idea what you are talking about except for being a walking shitpost.
>>342853095
Don't even bother with gimbals. They're easy to beat. Just get a nice HOTAS combo. I wish I had the income to pick up a Warthog HOTAS but I don't so I've got a logitech stick and a CH Pro throttle. Works fine.
>>342853307
>remodels
lol
>>342853246
The only people who say Chris is the problem is Smart and anonymous shitposters on the internet. Every single person both inside the company and those who met him in real life at conventions and bar meetups say hes one of the friendliest and hard working people they've ever met.
I'm going to go with their opinions over anonymous shitposters with nothing to lose, sorry bud.
>refunds
you havent bought anything to begin with, the money went into FOUNDING the game, you are not entitled to get a donation refunded. the ships you get are just a thank you for your generous donation.
>>342851189
What are you? Poor?
>>342839810
>M-muh memes with, "They're scam artists!"
Check your fucking facts.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link//15355-Star-Citizen-Alpha-24-Available
The game has been in development for well over 4 years. For a game as vast as this one it's going to take some time. They're almost done, give it a year or two it will be released until then.
>>342853525
i meant FUNDING
>>342853525
it's not a donation retard. When investments don't come to fruition because of lazy workers it's a scam.
>>342853525
Crowdfunding has always been a risk, it's supposed to be a risk so people don't throw a fuckton of money into a pledge like a moron.
The meme that people should fight for refunds is retarded because it encourages people to spend way too much money in the expectation they deserve a refund at the first sign of doubt. No developer is going to just set aside all the money they raised in the off chance someone wants their money back.
They're going to spend it on software, staff and facilities, sometimes marketing.
>>342853623
>they're almost done
Hehe
>>342853773
>Investment
>>342853773
Crowdfunding is not an investment, you are not an investor, you have no investor control over your pledge. Almost every crowdfunded game states the only situations they will ATTEMPT to give you a refund is if development completely halts and the project is cancelled.
As long as there is even 1 dev working on the game it is considered active development, good thing CIG has 300+.
>>342854008
>donation
This shitty dev reminds me of Project Zomboid
Too little experience and understanding for all of their over ambitious ideas. Atleast zomboid was bailed out by modders doing all the work for them
>>342852490
This. But your inclination is also correct anon, at least as a guideline.
Mouse and keyboard are going to pick up and play and be good sooner than someone going in with HOTAS. Though generally they are going to have a lower maximum skill threshold than someone that learns their HOTAS setup.
Again, not a rule. There are some mouse and keyboard players that are masters and there are (quite a few) HOTAS players that are absolute garbage and should have saved some money on peripherals.
But if you're looking to get really good at flight sims and dogfighting, the HOTAS setup is the way to go. You're going to have to be dedicated and really buckle down and learn, but you'll smoke most opponents once you've punched your card enough times.
>>342853623
>They're almost done,
Anon I love ya but never say stupid shit like this again. SC is far from done, but its making tons of headway now that backend engine shit is complete.
>>342854020
well, it's closer to investment than a donation., but agreed it's not the same.
>>342851074
>pay for a steak
>be given rotten bread
>soulless riskless rehash comes out after 5 years of development
>/v/ complains
>ambitious crowdfunded game with never seen before technologies is being developed for not even 4 years
>waah its a scam vaporware!!
>>342846665
I thought homostuck was made bytoby fox
>>342854067
Are you one of those faggots that thinks they're "investing in fun" or something? Because if you are, please kill yourself.
>>342854232
>/v/ using food analogies again
>>342853623
>For a game as vast as this one it's going to take some time.
Not infinite time will make the game be released
unless you call original ideas minus features a game.
This is a important part of the entire story that you like me know.
I like you just discovered it on this thread here, see
>>342848579
>>342849734
>>342850723
Now matter how much time they spend on the game or how much money you throw at them they wont finish the game, since they already said the game wont have some features the game will have.
If they spend 100000 years on this game and receive 10000 trillion dollars the game wont be made.
IF THEY MAKE THE GAME WITH EVERYTHING THEY SAID THE GAME WILL HAVE NOW, THE GAME WILL STILL NOT FINISHED, BECAUSE EVERYTHING THE GAME WILL HAVE IS NOT EVERYTHING THEY PLANNED THE GAME TO HAVE.
>INB4 calling me derek smart
Derek smart complaining about the fact they have a huge list of features.
I OBVIOUSLY would be ok with them spending all this time and money on the game (even 10x more time and money) if at the end of all this they released the game with everything they promised.
>people are still paying real money for kickstart citizen
>>342854189
In spirit yes, but in rule no. Honestly like I said there needs to be the idea of RISK so people dont do dipshit things like drop a grand on a whim and then panic a few months later when they say the FPS matchmaking minigame is cancelled and demand a refund.
>>342854321
are you one of those faggots that gives away money to fund other peoples holidays
>>342854267
/v/ complains about everything, SC is the whipping boy for crowdfunded games because of its ambition and how long its taking.
Honeslty just sit back and watch everyone argue, its more fun that way and SC will continue being developed whether or not some anonymous poster is making shit memes about it.
>>342848937
I really wonder how the fuck people sign those kinds of contracts without actually reading them, they probably do this without lawyers because this shit doesn't fly when there is one to actually read it
>>342854565
>>342854471
>anonymous says the game wont be made
Well pack it in everybody, it was a good run.
The game is actually being made and they are doing a bunch of mocap stuff with famous actors right around now. Most of the cinematics and story stuff is done already. I hope Squadron 42 is really good. The MMO could take a lot longer to get all the planets finished.
it's not a scam. It's just weird to buy a game years before it comes out. Maybe they should have been more honest about it but the tortanic meme shit is just dumb.
>>342854925
Star Citizen is the shining example of "Ambitious games take a long time to make"
Some people just cant fucking handle it.
>>342855057
See: Nintendo
>>342854559
>in rule
I think the rules are being defined granted currently as crowdfunding is relatively new. Law takes some time to catch up with technology and I think it will fall more closely aligned to investments and contractual law rather than a simple donation. Now "funders" won't have the same rights as investors of a publicly funded company or anything but they surely have rights. There are conditions to the giving of the funds. And if those conditions are not met then the giver should have the right to, at least the ability to try, recoup a refund.
>>342845754
>That artwork
>Scammed
Good. Serves them right.
>>342851074
I know the game looks good.. but this is not a flattering picture at all.
>>342842474
I through TOS were as valuable in the EU as much as wet paperthat being said, is their fault for throwing money to a scam like this
>>342854294
He made some music used in it. He's not the creator.
>>342840667
Same
>>342855282
I dunno senpai it looks cute
>>342850381
Actually it will because of the fact the game is crowdfunded. Basically they worded it in two steps.
>Anyone from this point on who backs agrees to never ask for a refund and
>Anyone who backed previously may ask for a refund but that refund will only be granted if the money that that individual backed has not already been spent creating the game.
So basically they already spent all the money so you dont get a refund and any new money they get is nonrefundable.
>>342855316
I'm aware of that. I'm using an ini to try to make shit run better. I wasn't using that screenshot for graphical fidelity. Merely for the fact that it shows off the repair station.
>>342855204
>at least the ability to try, recoup a refund
I agree with this, but like you said with conditions. If any developer just decides to drop all development of the game, the people who backed deserve their money back. However, if you're a fucking retard throwing your money around blindly and are getting nervous that the thing you blindly threw your money at isn't coming out tomorrow, you deserve nothing.
>>342855204
100% agreed, well said.
>patch goes up
>huh neat
>check new files
>go datamining
>find final version of the main theme
Here it is if people are curious : https://soundcloud.com/user-393138560/star-citizen-main-theme-final
>>342854913
>Well pack it in everybody, it was a good run.
You are arguing about semants
Imagine you put money arma 5 and the company after some amount of time after receiving the money say they will do game like call of duty modern warfare, instead of their original idea.
After 10 years they release this call of duty game.
They release their game?
In some way they sort of did it, but they really didnt released it, because they told people they were going to make arma 5 not next call of duty.
If you compromise with kickstarter style game being released with anything less than ALL features than it was originally planed to be made thats ok and yes in this case the game will be made and they are spending all the time and money they need to release this game
But if arent ok with some company telling they will do X and then saying that their game (when become a finished product, instead of those current alphas and betas....) wont have Y or Z features, its obviously you will get pissed.
>taking derekt seriously
>>342847142
Inafune.
holy FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>342848937
Wait, why would they contract out the work?
Why not just pay a normal wage like a normal company until the work is done and just hire on the artist as a temporary position?
That way you can always get rid of the person if they aren't a match or uncooperative.
>>342842474
it's video games
no one gives a shit if you got scammed
>>342855770
>if you're a fucking retard throwing your money around blindly and are getting nervous that the thing you blindly threw your money at isn't coming out tomorrow, you deserve nothing.
Well, that will be decided on a test, eg; have the promisees neglected their obligations, lagged behind a deadline too long, deviated substantially from original agreement, etc. Idiots that throw money around have rights. If the thing you blindly threw money at never came out or was substantially different to what you originally paid for would you want your money back?
>>342856215
>Wait, why would they contract out the work?
Probably to get someone more qualified to do that specified job.
But that whole fiasco reeked of young, inexperienced entrepreneurs.
>>342839810
So much Something Awful & Derek Smart circle-jerking going on in here, holy shit, crowd sourced retardation galore. You fuckers are actually worse than hardcore SC fans, how can ye be so obsessed and put so much energy into shitposting about something that ye supposedly don't care about?
Anyway, for those that don't fancy swallowing retard cool-aid, here's what's actually going on in Star Citizen right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4i1o-LPj-M
>saying Star Citizen are gullible idiots
>when you're literally arguing with DEREK SMART
>DEREK
>SMART
>DESKTOP COMMANDER
Smart is such a fucking worthless hack. He hasn't released a single working game in the entirety of his career, fucker bought Freespace 2's IP and ruined it. If you find yourself arguing on the same side of that retard, you can't be in the right, no matter the subject. He has legit mental issues, but I don't expect console children from /v/ to be aware of that.
>>342839810
CHARGEBACK
>CHARGEBACK
CHARGEBACK
>CHARGEBACK
CHARGEBACK
>CHARGEBACK
>>342856454
>10 bux
>>342856215
Contractors are borderline standard for the gaming industry in regards to employment.
>backed Mighty No. 9
>but at least I didn't back Star Citizen
How many times does this need to happen before you stop falling for the kickstarter meme?
>>342856427
>Lagged behind a deadline too long
See, this isn't always a good metric to decide by. Deadlines in video games aren't always met. Delays and shit happen. Regarding a difference, I'm not quite sure. Substantial would have to be paying for a video game and getting a deck of cards substantial. Anyone can just arbitrarily state that they were expecting x instead of xy and demand to have money back.
>>342856625
On the topic of anime, where did everything go so wrong and how did we go from pic related to fucking moeblobs and cancerous girls?
>>342856430
>how can ye be so obsessed and put so much energy into shitposting about something that ye supposedly don't care about?
Schadenfreude Tortanic syndrome.
>>342856789
Demographics changed, became more lucrative to appeal to moe culture.
>>342856454
>two retards are arguing
>one is right
Don't side with a retard even though he's right. This is your argument? You're like a feminist. Can't side with a white male even though he's right because it affects "the cause".
>>342847613
>Cube World
>Just now remembered that this fucking useless game exists and that I spent money on it
>>342839810
glad i sold my package long ago
i smelled ths trainwreck
>>342845040
>that would never hold up in court fyi
Yup.
You can't have a contract that is entirely beneficial to the creator.
You especially can't have a contract that can be re-written at a whim by the creator in order to subjugate his means.
This is fishy shit.
>>342856454
>fucker bought Freespace 2's IP
What??
>>342857138
rofl no one is taking CIG to court over failing to give them a video game, are you a fucking retard?
>>342857152
This isn't true, he tried to buy it, but the shitstorm from the fans made the studio not sell it to him (thank Christ)
>>342856670
I'd rather have nothing that is SC than something that is MN9. Fuck you Con-man you ruined everything.
>>342842824
scam citizen is shit, but so is derek smartalso, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIn1_9YvGds
>>342857308
I never said any one should or would, nor did I imply it. So I guess you're the retard.
>>342856670
Star Citizen looks better than its concept art and isn't a chore to play
I see that the Star Citizen Internet Defense Force is hard at work here.
>>342856781
>isn't always a good metric to decide by
I think it is. Delays of course happen, agreed. But substantial delays, with very little progress on beta updates or whatever can be an indicator of not meeting requirements. Not the be all and end all be just one indicator. Delays happen in every industry and many are unforseen/uncontrollable, allowances should be made for things that are not anyone's fault.
>Anyone can just arbitrarily state that they were expecting x instead of xy and demand to have money back
except with crowdfunding and SC they explicitly said what the product/game would be, involve, what you can do, how it would play, etc. It's not just picking up a game based on coverart at the shops or whatever
>>342851353
Looks like they forgot to hire programmers and just have the artists throw together the art assets in a template starter project.
It's sad but also hilarious.
Behold, derek smart's creation!
http://steamcharts.com/app/266620
>>342855989
Stop using those shitty examples/analogies and just use the duke nukem forever example.
Duken nukem was released and it took alot of time to be done, but it was not everything they planned (at the start and middle of development) to be
>>342857680
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?term=3000AD
All this shovelware too.
>>342857680
mmmasterpiece
>>342857813
Because the game was scrapped and redone from scratch entirely. Normal successful games take a long time to be made, 5 years, even 7 for something as technically amibtious as Star Citizen is nowhere close to development hell.
>>342857856
He's made more games than me and that upsets me, but are they really all that shitty?
If a guy like this can make it, how do I get into game design?
>>342857541
It'll probably crash just as hard as Cuckstar
>>342857813
Duke Nukem was also passed around like a holiday whore in its development.
>>342858001
They don't even work, for most of them. He made some terrible WoW clone where he didn't pay the programmer, but when Smart handles the programming, the game never gets past the main menu.
>>342839810
fugg my dick meg is wearing a halter top in this video
>>342856454
>>342857152
>>342857337
Yeh, he didn't get it. I don't even think he could have if he wanted to. FS license is lost in space. Interplay have it but what the fuck have they done in the past decade?
>>342858130
So I need to be a competent coder to be a game designer?
Everything I learned from the indie game movie is a lie.
>>342858192
>>342857337
Thank god. That would upset me even more than that failure of a Battlefront that EA/DICE put out.
>>342858215
>Everything I learned from the indie game movie is a lie.
>>342858215
Being a competent coder makes you know what is within the reach of reality and what isn't. Game programming isn't rocket science, it's really easy scripting most of the time, you don't have to program graphics or low level stuff. Also yes, you need to program, everyone can draw fucking animu girls.
I'm sure, by this point, most people realize the reality of this project is not going to match projections. Stop giving them money, and explain to others wherever, whenever possible, why this company should not be given more money.
>>342858416
>everyone can draw fucking animu girls.
I CAN'T EVEN DO THAT
>>342857972
>Because the game was scrapped and redone from scratch entirely
This is not about the time duke nukem devs spend developing their game or how shitty the final game it, but the fact they released something that was not they told the game would be.
This is the only flaw of star citizen and the fact its making the non stupid people complain, its the fact that they told people on kickstarter they would do some specific game, but them after some amount of time, told they are removing some features of the game and the game wont have them.
The point of this is not about the game quality, the game would be awesome if and when they did the entire thing they promised, the problem is that they said they wont do it, they will remove some features
>>342858137
Is this channel good? Or is it a SJW shitshow?
Those titties and that body are sub-worthy.
>>342858284
As long as you aren't autistic about who releases stuff, FS2 got a huge following still.
Check out the hardlight forums, they have so many add-on campaigns for freespace there.
Probably one of the best examples of said work they do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tKceQoNrBs
>>342858541
>This is the only flaw
What features are they scrapping that they promised to release?
>>342858541
What have they removed so far? If anything they're overdelivering on features...
>>342858215
Pretty much everyone on the indie game movie are seasoned programmers who used to work in big-name studios.
>>342858791
You must be really short.
>>342857972
You should follow the development more closely before making things up.
Star citizen development started before 2012, where Chris and small team made a demo for the crowd funding campaign.
SC has suffered multiple reworks so far in the ships, damage system etc.
Basically they threw away all that work that was made in early development.
So 4 years latter and we still have a huge list of ships in the pipeline, ships needing reworks, one of the worst netcodes I've seen on an online game and ONE unfinished system out of 100.
>Not just telling support you're getting a refund and having your bank do a charge-back.
>>342845632
15,000 ships and shit
>>342858670
>What features are they scrapping that they promised to release?
Dont know, some anon told me they are doing it here
>>342849734
>>342858002
What do you think anon, Star Cuck or Cuck Citizen? I'm thinking the latter.
>>342857972
>>342858938
Also don't forget the awful flight model remake and all the missing mechanics like mining economy etc.
>>342856772
they will run out of money eventually.
>>342859084
Star Cuckold.
>>342859048
So you've been saying this Ad nauseam this entire thread and you don't even know if what you're saying is accurate or not?
The big problem I see right now is this. Participation in the development process as a playtester is a major perk of having given them money to this point. If you do not agree to 2.4 new ToS, you cannot get and play 2.4, but also there is no 2.3 for them to continue without the new agreement, they have nothing. If you don't agree to 2.4 ToS, whatever your contribution was considered by you, as gift, purchase, donation, investment... it is gone. Anything going forward is subsequently inaccessible.
That's a big problem to me. I really don't like that.
>>342858938
>>342859141
So no scrapped feature? Sounds good.
>>342839810
Gave them £30 when the hype took me. If I get a game out of it after however many years then cool. If not, it's my loss for backing the wrong horse.
I get why people are defensive if they've spent hundreds on ships, but what I don't get is why so many people who haven't bought anything get angry about how other people spend their money.
>>342859606
Because it's shitty to see other people get ripped off?
>>342859048
>>342859276
>>342859431
I'll tell you some, these are actually in the original kickstarter page, and made allot of people spend money on this.
>no private servers
>no co-op in the single player campaign
>no mods
>no European and Australian servers (promised stretch goal)
>>342859691
>>no private servers
>>no co-op in the single player campaign
>>no mods
These are coming, 100%
>>no European and Australian servers (promised stretch goal)
[citation required]
>>342859691
So where did they announce that they've dropped these things?
>>342859691
None of these things are dropped, you swine.
>>342859606
Future, prospective "gifters" should be given all the information of this company's actions and conduct over the development process. If you're going to "invest" 500 or 1000usd, you should have some modicum of right to a warning. Else we're just watching people walk into pits all over and I'm not the edgelord to think that's funny.
>>342859679
There are actually ships to fly though. Anyone who really cares is going to fly around and be happy with it, most likely. It's not like there's absolutely nothing to show for the money.
>>342859408
>that pic
oh no
>>342851281
>its fiiiiiiiiiine goyim just ignore the fact you're being scammed
>remember that if /v/ says you're being scammed just ignore them lol
I'm a PC gamer and it makes me sick that I have to associate with you fucking mongrels
>>342842824
>Derek Smart
Holy shit you've been meme'd.
>pc is so desperate for good games they will fund scam artists.
>>342859979
Nobody is saying there is, there's drastically under what people paid for is the point
>>342859779
No they are not coming, Erin Roberts himself said that there will be NO co-op in squadron 42 at launch .
Disco lando admitted that private servers are the last thing to worry about and maybe only post launch. Also don't forget they are using google cloud servers so its basically impossible for players to be able to make private servers themselves.
I'll give you the source on the third one in a sec
>>342859779
>These are coming, 100%
Proofs?
>>342846665
You forgot the part where he hires a dude to do music for the homestuck game, and in that dude's spare time he makes Undertale and goes on to be a success.
didn't the staff use some of the money to pay their vacations?
>>342854565
You are aware that most of the money goes towards peoples salary right? Even CRs. That's how games are made, you pay people to make them.
If they spend their money on vacations or cars then that is up to them, you cannot dictate what an employee spends his money on, or did you think the funds went to "Assets-R-Us" and they bought parts of the game at a wholesaler?
>>342859979
>Even if it’s not perfect, it’s better than nothing.
Hmm... where have I heard this before?
>>342845089
tfw it's all ogre
https://youtu.be/126Lc94rLn8
>>342847613
Cube World
The Dreams of a Crazy Man
Who /freelancer/ here?
>>342859779
Link of the thread in question.
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/5536399/#Comment_5536399
Its 2016, we're still in alpha and they already missed this promised goal.
Another scrapped feature:
>Star marine
>>342861003
Oh you meant for alpha. I thought you meant the final game wouldn't have euro or aus servers.
>>342860617
And the longer they can make this project draw out, attracting donations for unreasonable expectations, the longer they draw a paycheck. They tell people what people want to hear, want to believe, they get paid by the hour/day/week, not being paid for a completed successful project. That is very bad.
>>342861003
>Star Marine
He just released a video saying we may see Star Marine news soon. But so far you haven't actually posted sources for dropped features from the game.
>>342860324
That had to have killed The Huss.
>>342860617
>everyone at the company is off buying cars and holidaying
>mfw I'm still giving them money to play the greatest space game ever created never
>>342861092
>can't even meet basic goals for alpha
>oh no problem, I'm sure they'll do everything they promised for beta!
>>342855581
>I have no idea what perspective is
>>342861206
Facts and sources are hard anon, shitposting is easy.
Guess which /v/ always chooses?
>>342861206
*Lifts head up from mountain of coke* Oh yeah, Star Marine, yeah, Gonna have BIG news on that real soon. Everything's coming together, yaknow.
>>342846001
conmen know conmen
i hope the devs take more vacations than notch.
>>342861715
>*action*
Go back to whatever degenerate place you've come from.
>>342861715
*raises paw*
>>342861715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsTK6O5lrSk&list=PLh_CYUUcz1Iaw1PA3YHQ2NRNAtX93wgwM&index=12
>>342861715
*holds up spork*
>>342861908
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88WL5MX1Co8
>>342861902
>>342862109
LOL XD
fuck off
If the change their TOS in EU they HAVE to give the customer the right to get a refund
if they don't they break the law
people will sue
>>342859276
>So you've been saying this Ad nauseam this entire thread and you don't even know if what you're saying is accurate or not?
Actually it was like this
>was telling people that spending alot of time to produce a game is not a problem, and kickstarter did nothing wrong. I said that its stupid to complain that the game has feature creep and then at the same time also complain the game is taking alot of time to be created.
>then some anon said its not stupid to complain about it, because the developer said that there are some features that wont be on the final game, and so by logic the game is a scam because the features they planned will never be created.
>based on that info change my side, on this specific case, its ok to complain about the game, since there are stuff that will never be done.
Now my fucking question is, do they said the final game wont have some of the original features or not?
>>342861206
>no co-op
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3f7mij/coop_support_for_sq42_pulled_seperate_mp_mode/
About the private servers I can't find the original source, only backer comments regarding that, but you can search the forums more closely if you want to know.
>>342862436
>Now my fucking question is, do they said the final game wont have some of the original features or not?
PS: If the anon that told me they wont be adding some features was just talking about the next alpha and not the entire game I will get entirely pissed of
>>342840638
why is that 2hu outside
let her in
>>342862417
The biggest portion probably bought in UK and UK voted out so good luck LUCKY FOOLS HAHAHAHA #NoRefunds
>its a /v/ Star Citizen episode
>people keep beating the dead horse of "SC is vaporware scam" meme. Even though they've been very transparent with their development and you can literally jump into your ship and fly around stations right now and Squadron 42 will release around the years end
I didn't even back this garbage but I still know more than you shitposters
>>342862668
Chris the man himself said the game will be released as a MVP (Minimum viable product) and that not all ships and systems will be available.
>>342862417
I hope someone does do it. I hope they do it now. If nothing else, it will set court precedent settling limitations on future projects as this.
>>342860874
>shitty overdesigned limitless military budget bling ship
How can anyone like this soulless boring design, let alone pay for it, is beyond me. There is nothing unique about it, nothing to catch the eye, just painfully standard sci fi design.
I only donated to SC back when they were still underfunded and I didn't think they'd make it. I'm willing to accept that I'm an idiot for falling for kickstarter bullshit.
I've still sworn that if I really do get screwed over, I'm going to track Chris Roberts down and mug him to get my money back.
>>342862932
>Squadron 42 will release around the years end
Just like the game was supposed to release two years ago, right?
>>342857462
>>342857357
Sounds like you need togit gud.
>>342863026
It's a very likeable ship, in my opinion. It doesn't look like a space plane, it's not some cool fighter or hauler, it's the only ship that can handle fights AND haul serious cargo for a 1 or 2 man crew. It packs a hell of a punch and is still maneuverable. I love that flying banana, sue me.
>>342862932
You can't log in right now if you don't agree to the new 2.4 ToS. If you find the changes unacceptable to what you originally understood, you get nothing, you can't even log into the game.
>>342863043
Good luck, by the time the game fails Chris and the money will be long gone.
How much money did you sink on this?
The new TOS only applies to people that back the game now. If you previously backed the game then the old TOS still applies to you.
You guys realize this game will be going F2P at launch, right? Why are any of you throwing money at it?
>>342863278
If you don't log into the game. You cannot log into the game without agreeing to 2.4.
It's funny the devs spent 20,000 dollars on building a realistic space door in their office area.
I've lost friends to this shit. Gonna laugh in their pretentious faces when it goes tits up. A gambling addiction would have gotten them more in return. Fuck YOU SC NERDS. This is why PC gaming has this reputation
>>342863348
>F2p
One time pay to play.
>>342863464
>This is why PC gaming has this reputation
Low tier bait, but I'll take it. How does it feel waiting 10 years for Last Guardian?
>>342863464
>This is why PC gaming has this reputation
What reputation?
Quotes from the $30,000 man
>Yes, I literally have everything and even then, multiple of everything, many times. [Laughs] I have the highest package in the game, which is called ‘The Completionist with the Million Mile High Club,’ which is a base package that’s $15,000.
>I used to have a souped-up S2000 with a supercharger and every Honda in my twenties, and I’d race them and everything. That’s no different. I guarantee I spent more money on my Hondas and my import love than I have on this game.
>There’s three people that have been influential for my entire life, and one was John Carmack, one was Steve Jobs, and one was Chris Roberts.
>>342863225
And what do the new terms do that is so offensive?
No refunds? I'm sorry but crowdfunding is a risk and people should realize it. If the thing they funded doesn't reach what it promised then tough luck, you should have judged it more critically when thinking about backing.
Maybe I would be angrier if I had backed with hundreds like some retards but I'm not an imbecile
>>342863464
The tears will be delicious, but the funny thing is that many of those idiots will say to themselves that it was worth the money and that they are happy for helping Chris fulfill his "vision".
Some people have more than 1000 dollars in this thing, imagine how many actual games It would buy.
>>342863448
Wonder what this is worth today, if that is assets spent for owning the office space or leasing the space, and what the effective return is on this investment were they to shut down Foundry 42 at any given time. Who "owns" all the property, millions of dollars in hardware and furnishings, even if the space is leased? Is any of this investment recyclable?
https://www.gov.uk/government/case-studies/cloud-imperium-games-invests-15-million-in-its-uk-studio
>>342847763
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>>342863735
Eh, I guess if he had shitloads of money to blow it doesn't bother me much.
>>342842824
>http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/06/star-citizen-fidelity-of-failure/
I will say that "scam" and "con artist" are the wrong words to use here. Both imply that the backers are throwing their money at Roberts and he is profiting off of it but he isn't in this scenario because he needs to keep asking for more to keep the project afloat. "Fuck up" would be a more accurate choice of words.
>>342863464
>burning bridges with friends just to insult them for being gullible
Mate that's quite petty.
>>342862668
You took the word of someone on 4chan as fact, you have no right to get angry at anyone but yourself.
>>342862957
>>342862668
Not all features will be in the first release of the game, but they will add the rest in later patches.
How long did it take for the M#9 fags to accept they got rused?
These things are a greate source of research for how much people can refuse objectivity when personally invested.
>>342863464
What a great friend you are.
>>342864383
That SC community is toxic. I don't blame anyone for removing it from the immediate sphere.
>>342863248
$250. I had a lot of extra cash at the time, and I really liked the idea of the Constellation.
If it comes down to me having to mug him, I can probably get around $100 off him. More if I steal his watch. I'm probably going to end up spending way more than $250 trying to get the money back, but I'd say it's worth it on principle.
>>342864210
I remember there was a thread where an south African guy said he had to sell the roof of his porch to back star citizen.
Its sad that they take advantage of people like this and don't deliver what they promise.
>>342863929
Modern games? like one or two, the rest you could put in saving because there is literally nothing cool to play.
>>342845089
Unlikely because Scam shitizen doesn't have a publisher to step in and tell Cuck Roberts to stop fucking around and release the game already.
>>342848314
How so?
>people actually bought this
well you deserved it
>>342865146
>people bought this game
>people actually spent $25,000 on in-game ships
How do goyim even end up with this much money to start with?
>>342864832
Good luck anon I hope you get your money back, do It for the rest of us who don't have the means to do so.
I never even considered giving a single cent to this scam attempt.
Damn do I feel smart now or what
>TFW The only game I backed wasDistance
>>342840938
old TOS also said norefunds. They just hid it better.
Said something along the lines of "if we run out of money, no refunds"
>>342864675
sunk cost fallacy is a known thing
Does anyone else think Elite Dangerous ships look much better and logical? Star Citizen ships are a jumbled mess, seems like they're just adding random shit without putting much attention in manufacturer styles or spacecraft dynamics.
Kinda early to do a victory lap /v/.
>>342865446
Only game I backed was Pillars of Eternity to support the Obsidian devs.
>>342864820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGRsEF953n0
>>342865458
most tos say bullshit like "you agree to get fucked up the ass at will".
>>342865703
I'm sorry
>>342865542
>This game isn't as big of a scam so that makes it better!
>>342865794
What?
>>342865542
They are a mess, look at the freelancer cockpit for example.
>>342864575
>You took the word of someone on 4chan as fact, you have no right to get angry at anyone but yourself.
I know nothing about this game, I need to take the word of someone as a fact (or I could, you know, research by myself).
But implying I dont do it, like happened here, I need to take the word as fact, either the fact that the entire feature list will be made or that developer said that not the entire list will be made
>>342856430
The game already has all that stuff in it? That actually doesn't look half bad
>>342853623
vast? how exactly is this game "vast"? Isn't it just a space shooter? Or are there planets with proper surfaces?
>>342865749
you should stop joining so many private gay clubs
Friendly reminder that this is the smallest problem the game has. CR berayed us, the master race. You should immediatelly sell your account, don't support that fag who betrayed us.
>>342866002
You're supposed to think that and not consider the last 2 years of company behavior, which would tell, no less demand, you wait for an official release before you give them money.
>>342863448
[citation needed]
>>342863168
What? Inafune go away.
>>342866156
>it's a "my sources say" episode
>>342842824
>Linking to Derek "Literalmeme" Smart
Hilarious. Let's all go play a Universal Combat game.
>>342866156
>my sources
Was OP Derek Smart or something? I sure love uncited anonymous sources.
>>342865929
4chan is for shitposting, go research it yourself if you want a decent answer to any question.
I'm starting to think these shitposts only exist to sell more copies of the game
If that Voxel based Space Game they showed at E3 comes out before SC i will laugh my ass off
>people spent thousands on theoretical ships in a theoretical game and agreed to the terms of service not to get a refund for this theoretical game
You can't make this shit up.
>>342866807
The defense one? It's in early access right now. Not terrible, but probably not going anywhere.
where the fuck is squadron 42?
literally not even any footage of it whatsoever
>>342856428
35k for 2 weeks is absolutely inhuman.
No one in such position would get that amount of money, unless they work for multiple companies and has to deliver 24/7
>>342867193
Those fags are working on this.
>>342866156
>>342867126
No Dual Universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKlx1ydHijA
As a 20k dollar backer I am of course sad that there won't be any refunds, but I also consider it more important that I got to be part of the dream.
And this is why Early Access is still the cancer that it is.
Half the fucktards in this thread who payed hundreds of dollars for a demo and convinced themselves they're happy with it.
>>342866156
>Friendly reminder that this is the smallest problem the game has. CR berayed us, the master race.
I don't care what platform(s) the game comes out on if it actually comes out.>implying that the console version won't be gimped
>CR
>not a fuck up, lier, bad taste shiter.
The conclusion will be glorious.
>>342867896
You could have bought a car but instead you spent 20k on 3d models and images of a yet to be released game.
Could you help me achieve my dream too? I have some good ideas for a video game.
>>342858585
It's OK. They're not the most in depth but they aren't insufferable. If you like rooster teeth then it should be fine.
>>342867896
Would you encourage other people to give the company more money? If so, is it only on the chance you might see your vision of the game more realized?
>5 years of development and over 100 million dollars later and all they have to show for it is a basic demo and more promises
How the fuck did anyone fall for this?
>>342851885
It's your right to complain about missing deadlines, but it's your duty to complain about missing content
This is exactly like Star Citizen supporters, how this lampooned blonde makes excuses for trump, and the division is exactly what CIG is feeding on, like Trump feeds on division.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrmIzXXGUbY
>>342869728
How many excuses will become too many?
>>342845459
In order to fight the strawberry, you have to become the strawberry!
>>342842716
>>342840938
>>342845040
More like Star Sithizen
>>342871902
reminds me of a great video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE
This isn't the first ToS change. People discussed them in forums which weren't immediately censored as they happened. Now people can't even access the game if they don't agree to it.
>>342869728
cool shoehorned political opinion reddit
i hate derek smart so much that i side with a 115 million dollar game with absolutely no sign of progress outside of faked videos and leaked assets. there are no alarm bells going off in my head even though i have spent $500 on a janky cryengine mod. not going to charge back i have faith in croberts!
>>342872867
Nonsense. If I posted that in the SC reddit, it would be downvoted into nothingness and removed. Fuck the echo chamber reddit.
>>342868826
>How the fuck did anyone fall for this?
How are people STILL falling for this?
>>342851356
Nice man, mine did as well. They are incredible. Milan is awesome. Tell me, what surface do you have your on? Is it mounted?
>>342851356
Oh and what is AC?
>>342843537
Chris Roberts is the law
This is not a persistent universe, this is a save/restore feature. You don't save/restore in persistent world games like WoW, Eq series, GW, etc etc. Can't believe this fact is so overlooked. Everyone is saying "persistence!", like they never played a persistent world before. It's like a religion that is shelving previous tech advance because it doesn't line up with propaganda.
>>342855989
>If you compromise with kickstarter style game being released with anything less than ALL features than it was originally planed to be made thats ok and yes in this case the game will be made and they are spending all the time and money they need to release this game
You have to understand our site.
>almost all games being released are shitty
>if right now some devs decide to spend 10 years to make ultra awesome game, we will have 10 years of shitty games
>become ok with a game that is just 10% as cool as the finished thing will be, for the sake of having something to play, and so complain about it not being done
>game is released after 4 years being developed or something like that
>get bored with the game after some time because the game is not as fun as it could be
>go back to the first part of this text and start this entire ride again
>>342874678
yes but this is a persistent world WITHOUT a AAA publisher breathing down their neck. it's a huge goddamn accomplishment and a step forward for independent games as a whole.
>>342869728
>comedy video
>hating on Trump
>>342875083
No. Online games had save/restore feature long ago. This is not any persistent world, budget one or otherwise.
>>342874678
That is a persistent universe though, and it is exactly like the persistent universes it was compared to in other relatively modern space games you fucking autist.
It was never meant to be a fucking MMO.
>>342872962
>getting this defensive about Derek Smart
>when Derek Smart is well known to show up whenever people mention his name
Fuck off Derek Smart
>>342875085
Trump is a joke most people find funny, I don't see the problem.
>>342875085
>how this lampooned blonde makes excuses for trump
>lampooned
>a fake slap-stick humor comedy skit
>going so far to make an analogy between two completely different things
>>342875083
>>342875585
MMO or otherwise, it is not "persistent world" or "persistent universe" and we're not talking about other games, we're talking about Star Citizen. That, my young redditers, is a save/restore feature.
Why are goon tears so delicious?
>>342876246
You don't see the relevance because you are dim. The rest of us understand.
>we spent the money you gave us to hire lawyers to fuck you over, we also used the money to paid for this cool space door for our office.
Another victory for capitalism
>>342876327
You are fucking autistic and have played none of the game's contemporaries.
You have literally no idea what you are talking about, or what they have promised.
It is persistent with the players actions as they play the game, and in multiplayer is also persistent. Literally exactly the same as freelancer, and literally exactly what was promised.
>>342876246
You sound like one of those dumb fuckers who thinks he's an authority on ad site forums. Go back to your safe space, bitchboy.
>>342866002
> The game already has all that stuff in it? That actually doesn't look half bad
Yup, the game is coming along quite nicely, but it's hard for people to see or hear about it due to the excessive shitposting from Derek and his fuckboys.
>>342876704
>Literally exactly the same as freelancer,
>>342875083
>it's a huge goddamn accomplishment and a step forward for independent games as a whole.
>>342876704
nope. you are a plebian arguing from ignorance.
>>342876635
this isn't even capitalism, they deserve it for giving money for a product that didn't existed
>>342876897
It's a big box of space with a handful of AI opponents and missions. It's not planets, it's not other star systems or even a complete star system, it's not persistence unless you consider save/restore as persistence ( in which case you're a fucking moron ), and as long as it has taken to get this far, without even the "backend" NEAR done, these fuckers are in for another 5 years of , literally, brain damage-inspired excuses for this project.
>>342850467
>sanjoken: this shit is creepy, i'm in the turret and all i hear is someone running around on metal floors
RIP
>>342855852
meh. uninspired orchestra shit. i really liked the murray cup racing music, wish it was all like that
>>342842824
>everyone just saying "lol linking derek smart" without even trying to refute anything on that page
Yep, this is /v/.
It's like the Bernie Sanders campaign all over again.
Donate shit tons of money to a guy who keeps toting false promises that sound amazing. They end up never happening, you get fucked in the ass with no refunds policy, and said money goes straight into the pockets of conartists and scammers (DNC + Hillary Clinton). And retards will still defend in the end, even after losing all their money for nothing.
Liberals and "gamers" share many common traits. Stupidity is one of them. I'll just be sitting here on the winning side, laughing, with my wallet full of cash still.
>>342878279
i take that back, it's pretty alright
how come the new COD looks like it's going to deliver better space action than this shitheap
>>342878598
You're not me, faggot
>>342878596
>posting this while Trump is flat out embezzling campaign funds into his personal business ventures
Trump supporters are hilarious.
>>342842824
Ah yes, Derek Smart, the one developing a MMO that literally only ONE person plays, and it's probably him.
http://steamspy.com/app/266620
>>342878596
Must be fun thinking about politics all day and forcing them into topics that have nothing to do with them.
>>342878596
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald
>>342878956
t. proud cuckold
>>342878548
>derek smart
<derek smart
>derek smart
<derek smart
>derek smart
<derek smart
>derek smart
<derek smart
>derek smart
<derek smart>derek smart
>tfw i bought into the hype back when it was very first announced
>had the money so i dropped $120
100% regret buying in, i feel completely retarded. that was an expensive lesson to learn.
>>342878596
>trying this hard to fit in
Shouldn't you be jacking off in the name of those The_Donald mods
>>342879485
t. false flagger
I can pull backer pics too dw
>it's a vedkong dog fucker shilling for an obvious scam episode
>>342878596
Says the guy whose campaign is floudering from lack of funds whose bid for Presidency is running the risk of financially ruining him.
Reminder that this was the /vg/ guild
>>342879580
wait what? i have the metal ID card they sent out in the mail and everything.
>>342879831
who /orgless/ here?
I'm a fucking freelancer, that means on my own.
>>342878956
>>342878985
>>342878986
>>342879750
>butthurt berniefags believe stories from the liberal MSM donating to Hillary Clinton, same media who screwed bernie over too
>same fags trying to link Trump to """r.eddit""" now
Trump was long liked on 4chan before that homosexual ridden /r/the_donald ever popped up. Are you forgetting that shitty sandersforpresident reddit that plastered /r/all and /r/politics now? You were the dominate force on r.eddit until you got ass fucked by a literal felon.
You lost your money for "socialism", you lost your money on this shit game, and you'll lose your money again in a future ponzi scam, because you'll be forever retards who never learn their lesson. Keep dreaming big, I'm sure your empty wallet thanks you for it.
>>342880168
1 : if you actually backed the game and cared about it, you wouldn't go around saying it's not progressing right after a huge patch drops
2 : if you actually cared about your money, you'd know you could sell the account for nearly as much as you spent, possibly more if you have a low backer number/LTI
Maybe you're lying, maybe you're just extremely inept, maybe you don't actually care about your money but any of those options mean your opinion is basically discarded.
so whats the status on star citizen? no release date, still in alpha and you still can't even dogfight in a demo?
>Chris Roberts said SC was targetting GTX 680
>when it gets released that GPU will be worth 10 bucks due to how obsolete it will be
>>342880379
I live in fucking France you swine, I don't give a shit about rigged elections and your elderly wig-wearing obese asshat. Don't fucking bring up that shitshow on /v/.
>>342880379
Get'em, anon. GET'EM!
>>342880379
>Are you forgetting that shitty sandersforpresident reddit that plastered /r/all and /r/politics now
No because I haven't been on reddit unlike you, you semen slurper
>>342880454
Right now, there's a small scale MMO version that is functional albeit unoptimised due to server bottlenecks. You can spawn your ship, board it, move in an open world gigantic map, explore asteroid belts and salvage stuff, board stations, there are a few quests, both PVP and PVE. You can purchase guns, clothes and armor with in-game credits in shops. Multicrew ships work fine, you can also explore a planetary location called Area 18. 0G FPS combat is a thing.
>>342880435
i kept up with development until they started delaying and making excuse after excuse and then i uninstalled the hangar module and haven't looked at their website in probably 2 years. logging in to snap that screen shot was the first time i've logged in since.
>this thread
>>342880676
Hello Rebbit!
>>342880521
>you swine
>says the guy who's country is getting overrun by goatfuckers
>Don't fucking bring up that shitshow on /v/
/v/ has been a shitshow ever since 2009. Don't kid yourself.
>>342880750
>back game
>stop caring
>waah it's not progressing I regret spending money
Then sell your account or check the game progress you dumb fuck. Or maybe you expect CIG to send a team to your doorstep and have a fucking powerpoint presentation just for you?
>>342880836
Sup vedleaf
>>342879485
>had the money so I dropped $120
>100% regret buying in
Sounds like you didnt have the money.
Reminder
>>342877361
Aww didums, did I hit a nerve in someone's narrative? You can keep trying to move those goalposts, but no-one gives a shit about your opinion or your definitions of what is sufficient gameplay, persistence, or game development in general. The average person sees that vid, and is impressed & interested.
You guys are a laughing stock - ye've gone from saying SC is vaporware, to a scam, to not a game, to not enough of a game, to features not being up to your definitions... ye are nothing more than background noise at this point.
>>342880980
I don't consort with furries, sorry sad little trumplet.
>>342848937
So I guess they can't publicly name-and-shame that artist?
I laugh at the ship designs,
they suck,
they're neither Space-Only/Hard-Sci-Fi style.
nor do they look airworthy, (rather aerodynamically unstable and likely to get ripped apart when attempting re-entry.
>>342877361
>unless you consider save/restore as persistence ( in which case you're a fucking moron ),
That's exactly how it works you fucking retard. MMOs have databases with tons of data for each player and the client saves/restores for it. KYS my man. Maybe you think your little toon goes away to some retirement home until you come back?
>>342881186
>ill show him an old screenshot
>>342881101
holy shit why is it that expensive?
is it made of diamonds or what
>>342880949
why are you so mad? they made multiple promises and then backed out on them. i can't keep the hype going for years on end with very little content to help fuel it.
hell, maybe the game is vastly improved now and totally worth the money i invested. perhaps i'll redownload it and check it out again. but if you can't understand why some people felt slighted by the devs then i dont really know what to tell you.
i want the game to be good. thats why i put the money into it in the first place.
>>342881309
t. cheese wedge enthusiast
>>342881101
>Developer happiness doesn't matter
It's a development studio not a stress mill.
>>342881417
>>i want the game to be good. thats why i don't keep up with development and complain about my ignorance on /v/
Brilliant.
>>342881073
not really. there are plenty of other things i could have invested $120 that would have been more worthwhile. that was my point.
>>342881463
>employees NEED coffee makers that cost 13k
Definitely a dog fucking shillizen
>>342881473
>Shilling for cawadoody
Hello summer.
>>342881473
>comparing a corridor shooter with little to no assets to SC
>>342881417
We have already established you don't care about your money (else you'd have sold the account) nor about the game (else you'd have at least checked out the numerous sources of info about the latest updates). Then you make a whole load of bullshit up to feed the circlejerk. I don't understand what do you have to gain. Occam's Razor says that you probably made the whole story up but I want to believe.
>>342881439
>implying I like Elite.
nice try, but elite has it's own issues,
I'm laying out my hopes for
ROGUE SYSTEM.
though frankly I'd prefer something like
"DCS: XF-20 Dyna-Soar vs Mig-105"
taking place in low earth orbit in an alternate mid 1970's.
>>342881616
>>342881667
>backing a scam
>>342881613
You pay 10 dollars so Derek might read what you post.
>>342881731
unsubscribe
>>342881473
>model making expression looks worse than model with neutral position
>the grafix on people's faces are slightly worse in this space game
>the $60m for CoD doesn't include the engine development or any of the graphical backend
>the CoD picture is in all likelyhood a fucking bullshot
This is retarded in so many ways. Why are you people so desperate to shit on star citizen?
There are backers out there who agreed to the original TOS that did not click through to agree on any updated TOS for various reasons. One person I know threw money at the original kickstarter then sort of forgot it existed. Never signed up for the forums to agree to that TOS, for instance.
Apparently a lawyer thinks it could have traction in court.
It could happen, anons. It could.
So is the game cancelled at this point?
It looked kind of meme.
>>342881139
They've gone from all kinds of dreams and set expectations to admitting very little of it will be true, and making excuses while redefining words. I never set the goalposts, they're fumbling long before anywhere close to their own goalposts, and people should stop giving them money until they start producing a better percentage of those expectations.
At this point, to give them money, "whenever this happens, doesn't have to be now", but before I give them a dime, they need to have at least 50 systems, at least 2 alien races, the ability for 2 ships with 24 crew each to fight, and planetary landings, as well as a complete set of player skills with rankings, to give more purpose to a choose-your own kind of experience.
Without this, the game's just not worth the money, because this is what was advertised when they had much less. Otherwise admit they just can't do it, and stop bilking people for money.
>>342881473
I like star citizen but I find it hilarious that CoD is beating them to market. The trailer looked like it was taken straight from Star Citizen except actually finished and polished
>>342881785
>Unironically posts on SA
Oh man this is worse than summer, this is advanced autism.
>>342881834
SA is here to troll us with dank photoshop reposts.
>>342881807
>>342881834
A new jpeg has been deposited into your account
>>342881834
>Why are you people so desperate to shit on star citizen?
Neo-/v/. People who ended up on /v/ because of the TORtanic debacle who are eager to jump on another hatetrain. It makes them feel superior to those dumb fucks who backed the game, it gives them entertainment and memes.
Don't look too much into it, they even somehow managed to bring trump garbage memes in the thread.
>>342881546
ok now i see you're an actual retard. enjoy the last word and your empty victory. i hereby permit you to rejoice in the honor of talking to me.
>>342881721
after they backed out repeatedly on release dates of the modules and came out with excuse after excuse, why would i continue to let myself get suckered in again and buy into the hype? i would rather have waited until the game was released and play it the way it was meant to be played.
>>342881834
Star citizen was the pride of all PCucks and people wouldn't stop bragging about it in /v/. Think about that for a moment.
>>342881319
wew, lad.
>>342881929
no they are still working
procedurally generated planets and more landing zones are supposed to come out this year
>>342881989
>No argument
>Just shitposts more
>>342846665
>But he doesn't sue The Odd Gentlemen, so he's either a pussy or was dipping his hand into the pot himself
Do you know what this tells me?
This tells me that either:
1. Hussie never got a contract with The Odd Gentlemen. Which was a terrible fucking idea.
Or
2. The Odd Gentlemen followed the contract, and that Hussie fucked up, allowing them to exit the contract and not return any of the money.
>>342882029
>>after they backed out repeatedly on release dates of the modules and came out with excuse after excuse, why would i continue to let myself get suckered in again and buy into the hype?
Because that's what happens in game, even software development. Literally every, single, time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstadter%27s_law
>goons shitposting goons
I hope these fuckers will end up on American Greed. Would probably be the first "video game" scam episode they air. They should interview a couple greasy autists that backed this shit too.
And I'll be laughing my ass off the entire time.
Holy fuck. People still go to SA?
>>342882074
You sure told me with your .jpg.
>>342881989
>A new jpeg has been deposited into your account
kek
>>342882183
Theres still people over on SA who are hype for SC, theyre just not fucking zealots or willing to suck Dereks nigger cock so they post elsewhere.
>>342882270
Isn't it like $10 to sign up?
>>342881831
???
>>342881916
>that gif
Oh so that's how it works.
>>342882445
Yes. You could put that $10 towards an Idris Corvette, which makes it even more retarded.
>>342882278
Because it's a crazy bullshit story you told. Yes, sure, servers record data in real time, and you can restore to a previous time if necessary, but it's not the fucking same as a save/restore feature. That is not what persistence is, and if you argue it's not an mmo, I'm going to agree because it's not fucking persistence.
>>342882173
i guess it was the fact that it was so high profile. also the fact that i had never (and havent since) spent any money on backing a video game before. for being a first time backer and putting a decent amount of money into it, i felt gypped.
>>342882270
They have a decent group of people posting in their star citizen general utterly devoted to sucking off Derek Smart cuz hes one of the guys lol.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3748466&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=4367
thousands of pages of autistic whining, and thats not even the first general thread, so they might be at 10,000 pages of autistic whining.
>>342882095
this is something I find funny, Vertical landing, what a joke, Vtol is a cop out by developers who can't stand airstrips/don't think players are smart enough to land horizontally.
>this thread
>all these people who backed all these project
>this board
>this society
>>342882779
>900 years later
>the concept of VTOL being widespread is apparently too strong for some neckbeard's suspension of disbelief
???
>>342882779
but they wanted physics based thrusters since the very beginning. it's easy in space
>>342882654
There is nothing on the planet more retarded than paying 10 dollars to post on SA, holy shit.
>>342882074
Damn, according to that nigga kids are fucking nuts these days. WHO in the fuck writes this shit lmao? Is this kino?
>>342839810
Gotta give props to the devs.
You'd think people would have learned to not back kickstarters anymore, but those guys still always find plenty of gullible idiots to pay into their scams
Anyway, keep giving them your money, folks. Maybe if you give them another 20k they'll add a virtual refund for you in addition to your next ship
>>342883298
>stop liking what I dont like
later homo
>>342883097
Think of it like a free to play MMO versus a Buy In model. The completely free MMO will be populated by the lowest scum of the earth because their is no barrier for entry, and it's attractive to certain kinds of terrible people because they don't have to ask their money source to get it. Even without a sub, MMOs with at least an initial box purchase filter out the worst of the worst. The ones it doesn't get banned and have to pay 10 more dollars to get back in.I don't have an SA account but it makes sense to an extent.
>>342883097
I pay $20 to post on 4chan tbqh
>>342883298
The game is real and it's going to rock! Look at the PTU, and tell me that's not th Best Damn Space Sim Ever
>>342882687
>only MMOs are persistent
You are fucking autistic.
>>342883472
But the opposite has happened, the biggest fucking morons post on SA while all pretending they're geniuses and cling to their identities to fend off criticism.
When everyone is anonymous your statements have to stand on their own.
