>Console shitters can't handle one of the weakest classes in the game
O I AM LAFFIN
http://kotaku.com/overwatch-s-torbjorn-is-getting-a-nerf-on-consoles-1782617429?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow
>“In an upcoming patch, we will reduce the damage done by Torbjörn’s turret by 30% on Xbox One and PS4. PC will remain unchanged,”
>Console players are generally less accurate than PC players
PC players couldn't handle Widow maker and McCree. Oh I am laffin.
>>342776935
>playing FPS on a console
Why do people do this?
>>342777158
Those two were nerfed on all platforms retard. Console players couldn't deal with them well either
>>342777158
>implying implications
>>342776935
>kotaku
Ever heard of pastebin, faggot?
>>342777160
>he has trouble aiming with a controller
>>342776935
>>Console players are generally less accurate than PC players
Can we stop with this meme? With practice and some light aim-assist, console players can be just as accurate as people using keyboard and mouse.
Wow changing the meta for players lack of aim. That's a fucking first.
>>342777364
LOOOOOOL
>>342777158
>Play Overwatch on console
lmfao
>>342777445
Tell that to the thousands of console plebs whining on blizzards forums right now about torb.
>>342777445
>light aim-assist
c'mon man
>>342777586
No one is complaining right now, they're celebrating.
>>342777445
>some light aim-assist
>>342777160
ignorance
>Console plebs can't a fucking stationary turret
AHAHAHA YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>342776935
It's less about aim and more about being fucking stupid. I legit am the only turret taker when I play as Lucio while the rest of my team dicks around or gargles cocks or whatever the fuck they're doing besides contributing.
>reduce in turret damage because console retards can't aim
I don't play waifuwatch but aren't the turrets immobile like in TF2?
Who cares
Torb stacks are cancer on PC too but at least you can take them out easier
>playing FPS on console
>>342777816
That "stationary" turrent locks on to enemies super quick - far faster than we can turn around to detect it and take cover. It's too fast and too powerful and was rightfully nerfed.
Turrent = shark
Diver = every other player
A human can't outmaneuver a shark in the water. A player (on consoles) can't outmaneuver a super fast and powerful AI turrent.
I love threads that have no discussion other than >FPS on console
Fuck off and take your shitposting elsewhere
At least they're playing video games rather than bitching on /v/
>PC players play 5 torbjörn on defence every map
TOP KEK
>>342777445
>With practice and some light aim-assist
Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself
>>342778259
>FPS on console
>>342778113
>turrent
>>342777445
>>342778113
Fuck off. It's not hard to take a turret down console players are just fucking stupid.
>it's a PC elitism shitfest thread
Purely autism. It's like poetry when one of your most prominent advocates has ass cancer.
>>342778113
Fuck off, I play on console and you have to be utter fucking shit to get out dps'd by torbs turret as pretty much any long range class.
This is blizzard casualising the game for the Polygon tier retards.
>>342776935I will be so mad if this happens, Torb is my most played character and it really is not hard to counter his turret
>>342777445
>and some light aim-assist
>Literally need an aimbot to even get close to being as accurate as KB+M
>>342778414
Do you play Overwatch on console?
No, so you don't know what it's like.
It didn't even need a fucking damage nerf
All it needed was a slightly delay in lock-on time and it wouldn't been fine
>overwatch players link kotaku
yup seems about right.
>>342778476
>, I play on console
>>342777445
It's not a meme m8. Back in the late 2000's Microsoft trialed some "pro" Halo & CoD players on Xbox 360 vs some random nobody PC players, and you know what happened? The console pro's were fucking dismantled by the PC players. A complete one sided squashfest. Microsoft abandoned their cross-platform plans after that.
>>342778564
Lol you're a fucking idiot, I only play on PS4. People are retards, yourself included with that piece of shit argument.
>>342778260
>get absolutely fucking destroyed by any halfway competent team
Torb's turret is dead weight and free ults against a coordinated team.
>>342778470
so fucking mad, you cant even play the game properly without the game aim for you
why dont you go back and bitch more
>CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE NERFS
LOL
I think this blows the fuck out of any argument that controllers fucking SUCK for FPS.
Stick your controllers up your asses while you tie the noose, you consolefags.
>>342778259
>FPS on console
>>342776935
Heh, PC shitters apparently can't handle one of the weakest classes in the game either.
Ahaha where's that faggot who said there's no difference between m&k and controllers when it comes to fps skill?
>>342777445
>he doesn't remember Shadowrun on Xbox360 and Pc cross-platform play
>>342778691
>I only play on PS4
>>342778781
What are you even saying? No one thinks controllers are better for aiming.
You're embarrassing yourself.
>>342776935
Didnt go to the link
Shouldn't Kotaku be out of business by now?
>>342778951
>No one thinks controllers are better for aiming.
how new r u
This board is full of fucking normies who will disagree with you. They seem to think controllers are "as good" as kb+m for shooters. They are wrong, of course.
Makes sense to me, it's an objective fact that aiming with a controller is much harder and less accurate than M+KB.
>>342778951
Atleast read the thread.
>>342777445
>>342778959
>Shouldn't Kotaku be out of business by now?
You have to be at least 18 years old to post here.
>>342778913
YEAH AND I ONLY PLAY MEI
FREEZE! DONT MOVE!
>>342778754
>PC players shit on consoles for aim assist (even though they wouldn't be able to name the specific heroes it actually applies to) despite using Sonny's and hacking the game
>there are PC players who literally could not finish dark souls without an easy mode hack
I REALLY wish there was crossplay. Oh god how I wish there was crossplay.
>>342777445
Its not a meme game devs even acknowledge and state this thats why PC/Console cross platform will never happen in shooters. Devs are even making changes to games to account for this, mobs The Division had 50% more armor on PC because mouse aiming is better.
Even if you could aim as well with a controller its still impossible to have reaction time as quick as a mouse.
Also
>light aim-assist
So you literally just admitted you need assistance to aim on par with a mouse you just destroyed your own argument.
So are console players also the shitters I see on here constantly bitching about Mei? I'd imagine her turn speed slow makes it impossible to fight back with a controller.
>>342779113
>the team with more console players loses
Yeah nah I'll pass on that one
>>342779060
Uh, can you read? He said just as good (still wrong) not better.
>>342779046
Look dude, actual people don't think that. That's like saying most people are flat earthers and when NASA posted some moon pictures you were all HAHA YOU WERE ALL BTFO.
Stop thinking retards with objectively wrong statements are somehow the majority.
![3c5ca7e509e1503379d5a0f550209ffc[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7rpgEy7.jpg "3c5ca7e509e1503379d5a0f550209ffc[1].jpg")
>directly linking to Kotaku
>You're generally less accurate with a less accurate aiming device
What a hot scoop by Kotaku.
>>342779106
>this entire post
so fucking mad
>>342777445
>light aim assist
his damage was fine they just needed to nerf the fact it could instant 180 lock onto you and shoot through a 1mm crack and kill you.
>>342779374
80% of the posts in this thread are platform wars from literal children.
>>342779324
>What is X and Y sensitivity
The only good console players play with that shit turned all the way up and can turn on a dime
>>342779348
Yeah as good using a fucking AIM ASSIST.
Did they fed you from sligshot when you were a baby repeadetly hitting you in the head?
>>342779480
I'm 33 years old and love debating the merits of vidya platforms.
Stay salty, kiddo.
The game is fundamentally flawed on console,
controllers just don't work
>>342779067
What about what I said indicates Im underage?
ITT: Blizzard tries to patch stupid. Sorry guys, can't be done.
FUCKING CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE DLC
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>342779106
>there are PC players
Yes and there are console players who couldn't defeat the first boss. Your point?
>>342779563
>Calling other people kiddo when you're still being a fanboy fag at 33
lol
>>342779508
Yeah and we're talking about people who have trouble with Mei, so obviously these aren't the "good" players.
>>342777364
everyone has trouble, do a 1x1 against a pc key+mou and prove my point.
>>342779537
Okay now you're clearly replying to someone else because I am not talking about anything you just mentioned.
>>342778570
This. I have no issue with the damage. It just locks on too fast.
>>342779658
Who are you quoting?
>>342777445
>some light aim-assist
>>342779563
>>342779640
What? It's a fact. Most everyone here is just shitposting. Saying that makes me mad?
>>342779480
>platform wars
There's no such thing
A "war" implies 2 factions that are relatively equal
What we have is a bunch of stubborn kids that are too afraid to admit that they got ripped off by buying a modern-day console, that still can't play games as well as a PC can, even when the game literally helps correct your aim for you
>>342778959
They'r slowly dying, They haven't been forced to pay yet. They're still trying to appeal in court
>>342776935
How much of a faggot do you have to be to subscribe to kotaku on facebook. Kill yourself OP
>>342779603
A lack of understanding of basic law and business.
>>342779725
summit couldnt even get diamond in Halo, proves my point he cant aim on console, console is just hard mode and most pc cucks need a direct point and click to be good
>>342777445
>it's the same with aim-assist
Hahahahahahahaha, console toddlers are honestly delusional. They live in a tiny bubble.
>>342776935
While we are at it. Reduce the aim radius of turret for both platforms.
>>342779863
Buying a console is fine if you want to play something that isn't an FPS
>>342779863
So platform wars.
I don't think the damage needed to be nerfed. They just needed to add a cool-down once the turret was destroyed, instead of after it was built.
Boom, done.
>>342778113
why is it that everyone says turret that way when they're younger I don't get it
>>342779937
>They live in a tiny bubble.
Except console sales completely dominate PC sales. Games are made mostly for consoles and sometimes ported to PC.
>>342779863
>"war" implies 2 factions that are relatively equal
No it doesn't. Dude you're looking way too much into me saying people are shitposting.
>>342776935
>>Console players are generally less accurate than PC players
no shit
>>342779932
nigga, controllers are so bad you need the game to aim for you
>>342779978
But shitty FPS games and sports games are pretty much all that consoles have
>>342780050
T. Nearsighted American
>>342780038
They're called a turret in the game. Though most people just call it his sentry because of tf2.
>>342779932
it's not hard mode, it's dumbed down so that anyone can do well.
there is nothing more casual than playing a shooter on console, even mobile games are less casual.
>>342777445
Now this is how you bait. Please take note you lazy shits.
>>342778259
There's an actual discussion about thison reddit.
>>342780149
Well there's the wee woo and PS4 has to have something, right?
I checked a few days ago and literally the only reason to own a bone is for halo. Kind of funny how it hasn't changed in over 15 years
This is a good thing, wish more games would do this desu
>>342778040
Yeah its pretty much the same as TF2's turrets but the level 3 form of the turret is only temporary as part of his ultimate which lasts 12 seconds.
>>342779106
>ignores that one Miyazaki interview pre-PC version where he says that according to their data fuckton of players quit at AL and this is what singlehandedly lead him to change philosophy on game design
Indeed, those hardcore console players.
PC players made aeasy mode cheats because you CAN. They also are on console but they require a modded system, which is difficult to obtain/do.
If hacks were common procedure on normal consoles, everyone would be using them. Just like everyone used cheats back in gen 5. Those cheat code manuals sold like hotcakes.
>>342777158
Because console players can't aim.
Shot yourself in the foot there buddy, having trouble with the controls?
>>342776935
that is fucking hilarious
>>342780214
Come on, it's objectively harder to kill anything using an aim assisted controller in this game than m+kb. Just like it's objectively harder to get kills while missing a hand. It's not a good thing.
>>342779917
Oh so you immediately know that because...?
And I doubt you have that understanding you refer to
>>342778113
>turrent
10/10 bait.
>>342780323
Yea if anything this should be seen as a triumph rather than a joke.
That's retarded to have a balance difference on different platforms
Sorry nothing beats a mouse for aiming not only is it intrinsically easier and faster, modern mouses are increasingly becomeing more responsive
Everything else about pc gaming is worse than console gaming.
PC gamers cheat, love exploits and are stuck using shitty keyboards whilst us living room gamers are on our comfy couches with a easy to hold easy to use game pad and we having fun.
>>342780449
>look towards someone
>aim assist snaps on to them and tracks them
lol
>>342780214
"anyone can do well" summit basically gold nova in Halo, complains about "if this was on pc I'd be better"
>>342778113
>turrent
>>342780153
Even in Europe, where PC isn't a fucking afterthought, that holds true. PlayStation rules Europe, and there are more console exclusive Yurop devs than American devs. See Rock steady, Rockstar, those guys who made Alienation, those guys who are making Shadow of the Beast.
>>342780583
he couldn't do better because everyone is able to compete, you kinda proved my point.
>>342780559
>stuck using shitty keyboards
nope
>living room gamers are on our comfy couches with a easy to hold easy to use game pad
I can literally do the same thing on PC
>nerfing the damage
>Not nerfing the insane as fuck instant tracking
>>342780579
In what game? That doesn't happen at all.
But here's what you're missing, even if it did it is still EASIER to do anything in an FPS using m+kb. I'm not even sure how you can think it isn't.
>>342780591
T. Liar
>>342780529
>>342780584
>Translation: I can't debate the point so I'm going to focus on a typo instead LOL!
>>342780591
What does sales have to do with overwatch an aiming?
Consoleshitter here.
Soldier: 76 is still the most perfect. Anything else is shit.
Proceed with insults.
>>342780579
>have never played overwatch on console
>>342777583
Freaking epic!! XD
Valvedrones saying that pc players can be better on console. Both players on each platform are good/bad on whatever they play doesn't mean they'll be good at it just because they're on pc. It's the same thing with fightsticks, you cant just transition easily. Also acting like you can't aim at all, if that's your argument then you're saying you're dogshit on console? Wow if that's true then everyone on csgo should be Master Guardian at least, Silvers and gold should never exist.
>>342780149
In b4 m-muh bloodborne
>>342777445
>some light aim-assist
Aim assist is the worst thing ever invented. I fucking hate games that wont let me turn it off. What if I want to lead the target? Oh wait the game doesn't have ballistics and its all hitscan? 0/10
The very fact that Aim assist is used on consoles proves their inferiority.
>>342780839
Consoles rule the video game market. They're so important, as a matter of fact, that most PC games wouldn't exist without them.
>>342780874
why would I play with a shittier input method and experience in general?
>1440p vs variable resolution
>M+KB vs controller
>>342780682
I think you have down syndrome, you proved my point
>>342776935
>30%
>NONMOBILE TURRET
Is this a joke? Do they miss it?
>>342781065
so literally nothing, alright
>>342780874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3bjb8N_LoM
>>342777158
Widow is strong because you can aim so well. Also Mcree will be nerfed when the patch comes out on console that had nothing to do with aim but him being able to destroy any character almost instantly.
>>342777445
Look up some of the really good players like seagull and his fags.
Their aim makes you wonder. Consoleshitters don't have 20% of his aim. It's just not possible.
>>342781081
It's hilarious that you're trying to change the subject
They should probably put in a huge "CHANGE YOUR CLASS" message when people run in and die over and over again.
Torb is absolute shit against a decent Junk.
>Torb is nerfed before Bastion
Now THAT is funny.
I feel bad playing Junkrat because he is really easy, but he counters so many fags so well.
Bastion still does far too much damage too fast and I think making his bullets a little weaker would improve the game a bit. It's not impossible to counter him, it's just really dumb how much damage he can do just looking at someone for 1 second. Play Rein with your shield up and stand in front of an entire team shooting at you, then stand in front of 1 Bastion and you will see what I am talking about. He does significantly more damage than an entire team, as a single player.
Bastion should be more of a "hold this corner" character, instead of a "kill everything instantly that walks around that corner" character.
>>342780549
Blizzard stated before the game even launched they would be doing that. It's honestly a good idea and something more developers should do.
>>342781065
>consoles make more money meme
Fuck off.
>>342781275
you cant even answer my question, there is no reason to play a overwatch on console
>>342780512
dont feed the trolls
>>342780682
Yeah, except dozens say they play shooters with mouse and keyboard because its easier.
>>342776935
>Console players are generally less accurate than PC players
I'm sure that has nothing to do with the difference between playing with a controller and playing with a mouse and keyboard.
>>342777445
>some light aim assist
Only if the PC gamer gets to use a "light" aimbot.
>>342781281
I just wish he was less accurate at range. I've only played like one or two games as him and it's easier to snipe than if I was using Widow/Hanzo
>>342780831
It's not a typo because "n" isn't anywhere near "e" or "t" on a qwerty keyboard.
Stop choosing to talk like a retard.
Turret and Torrent are two different words you fucking idiot.
>turrent
>>342781376
I was never trying to answer your question, I was telling you it's objectively harder to use a controller than m+kb. Again, keep changing the subject I love it.
>>342780583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5twb9P4BdE
Yeah its FaZe but it shows my point. He sucks ass as soon as he turns off aim assist. He even goes on a rant at one point complaining about a controller and says just give me a mouse and keyboard.
>Top level console aiming
>Turn up sensitivity to max
>Aim in the general direction and let aim assist take care of it.
>>342781568
It is objectively hard to use a controller.
Why would you purposefully gimp yourself?
>>342778564
I do, and torb isn't an issue for me. He's an issue for people that believe in "mains" in a game about switching and counter picking.
>>342781632
Thank you. That's all I was saying.
>>342781370
>muh shitty f2p games
>literally the best grossing console game on PC is only a fucking fraction of what it is on consoles
If PC makes so much money, why are all games tailored to the console market? Why are there console exclusive games? Why does Rockstar consistently delay the PC versions of their game? Why does Japan literally make 0 games for PC?
>>342781032
>Turn aim-assist off in options
>There's still aim-assist
>>342781568
it is harder to use a controller, everyone knows it's a shit input method because the game have to aim for you
that is not a good thing
>>342781510
>/v/
>grammar nazis
Nice autism, buddy
>>342781425
of course it's easier, a mouse is far more precise and suited for shooters hence why there is aim assist on console and not on pc. Aim assist greatly lowers the amount you need aim, anyone on console can pick up a controller and compete with other people regardless of who they are up against.
>>342781754
See >>342780449
We are in agreement. Like literally.
>>342781681
>backpaddling
As expected.
Because consolecompanies get money through exclusivity contracts.
>30%
holy shit why even play him now
>>342781907
alright then I apologize for earlier
>>342781964
Why doesn't PC have any exclusivity contracts, if its so great? Why do consoles have exclusive developers but PC doesn't? You said it yourself, money. Wanna take a guess where that money comes from?
>>342782032
>56 DPS a second on a low health stationary turret that can easily be killed
>Console babbies are so bad they need this reduced to 40
>>342782079
NO FUCK YOU FAGGOT JUST KYS
Jk you're alright anon
>>342782281
>DPS a second
well now I feel retarded
time to commit sudoku
>>342782232
Because PC is not owned by 1 company. You huge retard.
Consoles mean shit. Live with it.
>>342782374
And you act like that's a good thing. Consoles rarely lose exclusives, but PC loses exclusives by the second. Consoles see better developed games than PC because who gives a shit about PC? Publishers are slowly abandoning PC because there's no money to be made there. Japs only port old games because PC isn't a fucking market. Actions speak louder than words, bucko.
>>342782724
EXCLUSIVITY CONTRACTS
Got it now?
>>342782802
And that is why consoles will always be better than PC. There's actual money to be made.
>>342783043
>that is why consoles will always be better than PC
Not when it comes to shooter accuracy, senpai
>>342783372
Publishers don't give a fuck about that. As long as games sell more on consoles, that's all they care about. Oh, this GPU that costs twice as much as a console can play console games at 60FPS instead of 30? How cute, consoles sold more than twice as much as the PC version. :3
>>342776935
...Why not just switch to Junkrat?
