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This is a 1998 PC game.
See that hill?
>>342773160
You can visit it
This is 1995 PC game
This is a 1993 PC game
>>342773330
I thought ultima 7 came out in '92
>>342773160
>>342773239
Someone visit that hill, I want to see what's over it
>>342773489
Spoilers it's a Self Magic Shop. Spirit, Mind, and Body magic all basic to expert level. Just take the horses to Ironfist and spend your money there. Also FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK HAVE SOMEONE LEARN THE MERCHANT SKILL!
>>342773475
Thanks for the correction my man ;)
>>342773125
This is a 1990 PC game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF_a6qMeWP8
>>342773723
This is 1998 PC game running on modern PC hardware.
>>342773741
you're welcome my friendi have never played a single ultima game
This is a 1996 PC game.
>>342773239
>learn Water Walk
>go across to volcano
>pick up campsite pot
>SUDDENLY GOBLINS AND MAGES EVERYWHERE
>I have seen that you returned heroes but death is not your fate just yet
>>342773747
This is a 1993 Arcade game.
This is a 2013 PC "game"
>>342773125
What game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngXSpx-UaH4
THANKS FOR BETA TESTING PKEKS
This is a 2012 PC game
>>342774342
Might and Magic 6: Mandate of Heaven
>>342774591
AHEM
*adjusts bowtie*
Mount and Blade Warband came out in 2010
*tips fedora and leaves the stage*
This is a 2002 PC game
>>342774098
It has been 3 years already? Fuck.
>>342773883
Is that a recreation of a Metroid Prime area? I swear I recognize that.
This is a 2003 PC game
>>342773735
why should you learn the merchant skill?
>2003
>>342774805
Uh...sorry, sir.
>>342775237
The fuck is this?
>>342775686
Gothic 2 with the DX11 renderer
>>342774023
This is a 1997 PC racing game
This is a 1992 PC game.
>>342773125
...so?
This is a 2015 mod for a 2009 PC game.
This is a 1998 PC game
>>342773883
I still maintain to this day that the original quake was the last huge leap in terms of graphics technology, everything ever since has only been small, incremental refinements and diminishing returns
>>342775894
This is a 2016 spiritual successor
>>342776253
If you knew anything about rendering technology you would know that this is a retarded opinion to have.
>>342776270
thats unbelievably ugly
>>342776270
I'd rather play the original Underworld with the clunky controls and UI instead of that. Seriously what the fuck is that? Do they think that looks good? Oh right,
>unity
>>342776172
>soc
>2009
u wont m8
>>342776270
is this even going to be good? everything i've seen suggests otherwise and they are launching another kickstarter for the system shock remake in 3 days...
>>342773330
>1992
>blacksmith puts a ore chunk to the fireplace
>heats it up
>waits till the ore is glowing hot
>fetches pliers
>grabs the hot ore and brings it to the anvil
>pounds it with a hammer
>grabs the bucket
>goes outside to fill the bucket with water
>brings it inside, pours it to a container
>puts the forged item to the water to cool it off
>he carries the item to the table
>it's an actual working item that he just made, you can steal it and use it
>2016
>blacksmith plays a static hammering animation on loop forever
>>342773330
I fucking hate the perspective in these ultima games so much. Looks so off and vomit-inducing
>>342776370
>>342776425
It looks slightly better in motion well at least the environments do. Hopefully they backpedal and do better looking character models.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMg_3kSoWuM
The new System Shock remake looks way better though.
>>342776357
well I do happen to know a little bit about rendering technology
quake was the first game with fully perspective-corrected texturized polygonal 3d environments that Im aware of; everything since has been refinements of that formula
that nowadays textures are used to generate a lot of additional effects besides a plain structural "wallpaper" texture plus a prebaked lightmap doesnt change the fact that this is just a refinement
that all the rendering is nowadays performed by specialized (gpu) hardware instead of a general-purpose cpu is just a difference of implementation
>>342776497
Call of Chernobyl is based on Call of Pripyat's engine, which came out in 2009. Though the engine is just an updated engine of SoC's engine, which was 2007, but it had been in development much longer and was initially supposed to come out in 2003.
>>342776604
Brofist bro, I fucking love me some Skyrim too!
>>342776802
Wait what? This is SoC? What do I need to play this then? Just SoC, or is it a complete port of SoC to Call of Pripyat as a base game? I'm confused.
>>342773125
Name of game?
I remember my older brother playing it when I was little and at the time I thought it had the best graphics ever. I always forget the name.
>>342776702
If you think that blood is the color of fluorescent red paint, sure.
>>342776940
Might and magic.
>>342776820
a tip of my autism to you too my good sir!
>>342773125
tfw no love for might and magic on /v/
>>342776940
wait, nvm
Might And Magic 6
>>342776702
Not by much. But I'm usually against remakes so that might just be me. I don't see why they're remaking SS1 when the enhanced edition is perfectly fine. I don't get the obsession people have these days and wanting old games remade. Can people seriously not put aside dated graphics and just enjoy older games?
>>342776270
i liked when arx fatalis was the spiritual successor more
>>342777078
They're trying to get more people into the series for SS3 is my guess.
>>342776737
I guess if you look at "fully perspective-corrected texturized polygonal 3D environment" as the base for every other 3D game ever then that makes sense but there have been tons of large leaps in graphics since then. Real time lighting, shadow volumes, shadow maps, deferred rendering, among others.
>>342776909
Call of Chernobyl is basically a mod for Call of Pripyat. It's using a modified version of CoP's engine that leaked a few years back. But CoP's engine is just an updated SoC engine, it's not an entirely new engine. And while SoC came out in 2007 it was originally meant to come out in 2003, so that engine is pretty old just with some updates to it since, kind of like how Valve has updated Source since 2004, though I don't know to what extent they updated it so it could be closer to a new engine.
It's probably using Clear Sky's versions of SoC's maps since they share a lot of them and CS's look better.
>>342776909
This. Someone please explain.
>Look up mod
>Find mod page
>Like 99.99999% of other mod developers out there they assume that 100% of people know exactly what the fuck it is and have no explanation of what the fuck it is and instead just spam "thanks for the support", how to install, and changelog shit
>>342777373
>what is Google?
Summer.
>>342777493
He said he googled it and found the mod's page you stupid monkey
>>342777373
It's a free play mod that has maps from all 3 games and lets you choose your faction so you can play as a bandit or the military or whatever. It uses a community updated version of Call of Pripyat's engine, which leaked in like 2013 or something.
>>342777639
You don't have to open the first link you see you stupid monkey.
>>342777078
Currently playing trought ss1 because I missed it the first time around. It's still perfectly playable and the music on the first floor is catchy as fuck.
>>342776497
Mechanically it looks pretty sweet. The system shock remake is a different dev team. From my understanding there's like 3 different Otherside dev teams with a handful of guys for each of them.
>>342777078
because le old game aged like milk xD
but seriously ss1 is fine as it is (and best played with the original control scheme) but the remake is taking it in a different direction which is also cool
it's not like it's gonna replace the original
>>342776210
OH GOD YES I FUCKING LOVE THIS GAME
>>342777317
>Real time lighting, shadow volumes, shadow maps, deferred rendering, among others.
right, as I was saying, incremental improvements and diminishing returns
>>342778708
You could say it was whatever game was the first truly 3D game and that Quake just did incremental improvements in adding textures and having more things be modeled rather than sprites.
>>342777860
Just wait until you realize how much better SS1 is than 2.
>>342779048
thats true to a degree but the first fully 3d games didnt really have much in the term of "environments" to speak of, they were typically space sims or flight sims or the like which I think kind of disqualifies them. quake was to a degree the first fully realized 3d "world"
>>342779048
also using sprites would have made it not fully 3d so something like doom wouldnt count even if the environments were fully 3d (which they were not)
>>342779205
Pretty sure System Shock and the game that used the same engine before it were 3D but they still used sprites for everything. As opposed to Doom which was 2D made to look 3D.
>>342779356
Why wouldn't it count? The world and movement is 3D in the games I mentioned above and they even have some 3D objects.
>>342779545
System Shock 1 definitely had some real 3D going on, but from what I remember Ultima Underworld wasn't. You could look up and down with no warp in Shock 1 where in Underworld it would.
>>342779545
imho having a fully realized 3d environment with 3d objects is where the fundamental paradigm shift happened>>342779545
>>342779826
it still used sprites though didnt it? for objects
this is a 1996 pc game
>>342779948
For objects yeah. But the world itself was 3D from what I remember.
>>342779948
System Shock had some 3D objects but also a lot of sprites. I'm just thinking about your "incremental upgrades" idea and it seems like just adding more 3D models would be an incremental upgrade over whichever game was the first to be actual 3D.
This is a 2015 game.
>>342774805
Thanks reddit
This is a 2003PS2game
This is a 2010 game
>>342780139
Even after Undertale shot up this remains the only stock image for gameplay?
>>342775021
The loss of time hurts us all
>>342776537
Devs got lazy these days
>>342779545
similar but not the same as ultima underworld
system shock is definitely 3d same as descent
>>342779826
it does warp same as underworld on lower detail settings
>>342779967
too bad the multiplayer was scapped because they blew the budget on cheesy FMV
>>342782257
what's going in in this webm?
Am I the only one who still impressed with what they were able to do in Ultima Underworld? I went back and replayed it a few months ago and was just amazed with what they were able to do in 1992. I never got that feeling with games like Wolfenstein 3d or even Doom.
>>342783550
Doom wasn't true 3D
>>342773125
the fourth person on the bottom looks like matthew macaughnohey (however you spell it)
>>342773883
Those clouds look great. Is that really quakespasm?
>>342773883
Why do I love Quake so much but don't really care much for Doom?
>>342784307
custom skybox
>>342782257
texture warping
>>342783550
who knows how the fuck they did it but it's way more advanced than doom for all the praise it gets
>>342781481
*discovered priorities
>>342784648
Oh sure I love how they prioritize making a texture look 0.0000001% better rather than trying to make it run smoothly or make it a believable world.
>>342784573
damn that fog and skybox look great
>>342776172
Is this better than OGSE?
>>342784774
to be fair one is much easier than the other
>>342775021
Is that a "loss" reference in KoTH?
>>342787048
i see it too
>>342780194
It's ridiculous how good SH3 and FFXII still look today. Genius texturing.
>>342784573
Doom's engine was deliberately somewhat "un-advanced", taking render speed over fancy features, implementing just what would be needed to make the kind of levels they wanted (so Doom has its sector brightness and varied floor heights and support for non-perpendicular walls, all of which massively improved the way levels could be designed in an FPS, but the features are there to be more utilitarian than aesthetic).
IIRC, I remember reading that Carmack was going to put slopes into Doom at some point and didn't for speed reasons.
Keep in mind that Ultima Underworld runs a lot more slowly than Doom does on a machine of the era, too. It's playable, but it's not quick enough for a fast-action game like Doom.
also, even though Doom doesn't have true-3D map layout (which made it much easier to design maps, since you could plan them out in a top-down editor or a piece of paper), it has enough data for more full-3D calculations than it does in-game (there's no technical reason other than laziness that two things can't stand on top of each other, Doom objects do have heights -- it simplifies the logic, but not enough to really be a major speed gain)
probably didn't come up that much because early versions of Doom had a bug regarding large height differences and Doom 1 maps aren't terribly tall at all, so you rarely ended up way above an enemy where it having effectively infinite vertical height really mattered
>>342780271
too much foliage to be nevada
>>342776270
isn't this a prototype
>>342789942
Too much radiation and irradiated mutants to be nevada too, what's your point faggot
>>342773330
It came out in 1992 and was/is one of the most ambitious RPG's of all time you dumb nigger.
>>342790327
yeah it is
>>342778132
>and best played with the original control scheme
finally someone else who sees
>>342779967
and this game is SO fucking underrated, i wish the multiplayer component came out
source code release of the old LGS games when
>>342790338
the entirety of california outside of certain towns is a barren desert in fallout 2
kill yourself pete
>>342773125
>recently install and start playing this
>"oh man this is totally cool"
>computer dies the next day
>>342790638
Nobody cares you autistic retard.
>>342790338
Because the desert doesn't suddenly become "not the desert" after only 200 years, and nuclear holocaust probably wouldn't help. The mod makes no sense.
This is a Triple AAA Title from..I think it's 2009.
>>342790826
yeah lol who cares about internal consistency in a roleplaying game lmao fuckin nerds
>>342790842
>complaining about realism in the fallout series
Are you fucked in the head, cunt?
this is a 2011 game
>>342791021
see >>342790993
You inbred motherfuckers are why pony and anime girl mods exist for these games. Please just go die or something.
>>342791074
Whoa, what a coincidence, so is this!
>>342791074
Needs more depth of field blur and contrast.
>>342790936
GTA5 was Apr 14 2015
>>342789942
>>342790842
>>342791337
Woah look at this complete lack of vegetation.
Kill yourself you fucking shit for brains mongoloid.
>>342791074
what's the best enb for skyrim?
New Sorpigal is the comfiest town in gaming history.
>>342791889
>live in the middle of the desert
>own a boat
>>342791889
give it 200 years of constant nuclear radiation and see how many plants there are
or didn't you play fallout 3?
>>342791889
You see those trees? You see how they're only near houses? Now, follow me on this one, it's a doozy - the humans planted them there. So if nuclear holocaust affected the vast majority of the world, killed most of what little foliage there was in the nevada deserts, do you think that these foreign trees that are being supported by humans would have the ability to not only continue growing, but multiply?
tl;dr? I restate the previous, kill yourself.
>>342792272
>never heard of sandboating
>>342792276
>caring about about Bethesdas shitty "no green plants allowed" cannon
>>342792276
Chernobyl sure is a wasteland with no plants.
>>342791889
Notice how those pine trees are only inside the town
>>342792276
>radiation kills trees
>>342792474
Chernobyl wasn't a bomb meant to kill you
>>342777078
Videogames are expensive to make, and if you want to do simple things like coding, you gotta hire a couple really good coders, or an army of less good ones.
So rather than make crisis shock XXV, they're taking a classic and 'making it modern, dawg!' They get an almost instant success.
I hate it, and I want it to stop. Even call of duty isn't immune to remakes now.
>>342792410
>>342792514
Remove the healthy trees and there's still a ton of naturally grown vegetation. You guys are absolute retards.
>>342792276
Yeah just look at Pripyat, its a barren irradiated wasteland
>>342792642
No, but it released far more radioactivity than any bomb, the bombs today aren't as dirty as in the past, they just explode bigger.
>>342792685
But the mod in question has lots of overhanging trees, it's not just scattered brush. You've clearly never been to a fucking desert before.
>>342792443
But anon everyone knows that nukes turns any location into a desert permanently, even if it is literally beside the ocean.
I'm sure Beth have done extensive research into their setting and how things work, after all.
>nostalgic screenshots thread taken over by arguing about what realistic vegetation looks like
This is a 1998 PC videogame.
It was literally and for real made on a custom engine developed for many years in one of the dev's parents' garage.
In 2016, we're not allowed to have mirrors in games, let alone portals that teleport your missiles. That was such a meme there for a bit, I think they made a meme videogame out of the concept, but it didn't have mirrors, so it's still inferior.
>>342792112
Natural Lighting and Atmospherics
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50065/?
a lot of enb are based on this also.
>>342792991
DELETE THIS
>>342773840
this is an playstation 1 game running on a ps4
This is a 2002 console exclusive FPS game that has been credited by a certain team of germans and turks for inspiring crysis.
>>342792834
>lots
>webm only shows like 4
>trees can't grow in the desert
Moron.
>>342793025
Portal and Portal 2 have those portal things though. And plenty of games have mirrors and reflections
Rendering tech is different than it was in 1998 so you can't do things the same way you used to be able to do them. That and most devs don't think portals or mirrors are necessary and so don't bother implementing them.
>>342793025
WHAT MAP
This is an NES game from 1992 that did a lot of things that most developers thought would be impossible on the hardware.
>>342793016
Seriously, how autistic does someone have to be to get this mad about some anon's vegetation mods.
>>342773723
Reminds me of these guys from Civ2.
>All white males except for the foreign advisor.
>>342791074
This is a remastered version of Skyrim made by Bethesda for current gen consoles.
This is what pixel art looked like in 1992.
>>342792443
More like caring about interplay canon. Green cities like Vault City and NCR are the exception, not the norm and vanilla new vegas is much lighter on the foliage. It still has green grass where it makes sense like on the strip that has access to Hoover Dam's water.
This is what's thought of as pixel art today. Note the crescent moon.
>>342793329
added draw distance
>>342793891
Fuck this game so much, such a pretentious piece of shit.
>>342793442
tallon overworld so cozy
>>342792991
The reason for why Hiroshima is livieable today is because they remove abunch of top soil, the amount of labor that would require wouldn't be in Fallout universe after the Great War.
Also the bomb used was much less potent than the modern bombs and missiles (which would be used in the Great War)
>>342793938
What enb?
>>342793698
There's like a 95% chance that all of them were just MicroProse workers.
>Put this beret on.
>"What? Why?"
>Just do it. Sign this release form, too
>>342794167
sorry, no enb on consoles
This is hole technology.
>>342793938
You mean depth of field.
>>342794293
nah, im implying everything beyond where the blur starts is just a sky box
>>342793891
some games still keep the pixels even instead of that bullshit.
This is a 1992 PC game with sophisticated handrawn animations and comfy midi tracks.
Yo, what's a Good SP fps game?
This is a 1992 video game.
>>342793891
>the moon isnt perfectly square pixels!
>its the odd thing out!
hello legs on the main character itself
>>342794640
half life mods like poke646
>>342794481
/V/ did recommend me this game and it's shit
>>342794439
Draw distance has nothing to with skyboxes you fucking idiot.
>>342794874
You probably don't get what he means because you're underage.
>>342794649
And this is the 1994 PC sequel.
This is a native resolution screenshot of guilty gear X, the first high-res arcade fighting game ever, with twice the resolution of most titles that predated it.
It was responsible for making both SNK and capcom shit themselves, and finally upgrade to the resolution of the future as it was perceived in the middle of 2000; a mighty 640x480.
This is a 1991 video game
>>342776820
Classic /v/ response, bro! A thousand upvotes to you :)
>>342795216
>animated by the same guys who did the CD-I games
what were they thinking
>>342794738
>listening to /v/
>ever
>>342773125
This is a 1992 PC game.
>>342795216
And the 1998 PC sequel to that.
>>342793891
Why pixel "art" indie gaymes look worse than these older games? >>342794510
>>342794649
>>342795216
This is a videogame from 1972.
this thread is just reminding me of how great this industry used to be
reminding me how far its fallen
>>342794649
>>342795216
>>342795468
And the 2015 reboot of the series.
>>342795506
Because most indie games are made by 1-5 people. Often they're completely untrained in art let alone pixel art.
>>342795506
Well, you see, to make pixel art, that's like any other art. It takes a lot of work and effort if you want it to look good, but these are sprites that are supposed to be essentially in constant motion, so you must be really fucking good to do it correctly.
Here is SNK's own summary.
>>342795612
that's why most new games i play are now indie shit since they can at least be interesting mechanically unlike most AAA games
This is a predecessors of Assassin's Creed franchise.
>>342774023
DAAAAYTOOONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAlets go away!
>>342794076
The bombs in Fallout must not have been much more powerful, considering several bombs landing in Los Angeles and D.C. were incapable of completely obliterating those cities.
If even one of the missiles House failed to shoot down was as powerful as a modern nuke, Las Vegas would be a scorch mark.
>>342795671
And the 1983 original game that started the series.
>>342793025
Name of the map?
>>342795604
This is a video game from 1958 that Pong ripped off and didn't even do it as well.
>>342793891
>today
>>342795909
>1983
Jesus Christ. 33 years ago looks better.
>>342784648
An immersive world is a priority of an RPG
>>342795612
Nah you're just a nostalgiafag. The industry is better than it ever was games now are better than they were 20 years ago if you disagree you're blinded by nostalgia simple as that
>>342795806
>SNK are literally tracing art from 3D models
Takashi Tezuka mentioned in a smm interview that Nintendo had a hard time making new pixel art for the game. The artists simply weren't train it 2D art, only 3D modeling.
It's easier for them to make a 3D model and trace it than to actually draw something.
>>342793698
>Being this upset over literally nothing
>>342795689
This is a shit excuse.
SNK was originally like 10 guys. They never had problems making great looking games, or even the first ever yearly installment of a videogame series.
The original guilty gear was made by 12 people. They did all the voices, the sprites, the music, wrote the lore, drew the art for the manual, and decided that the secret boss should be Kenshin with tits.
Years later, another similarily sized team would do it all over by creating guilty gear Xrd.
How many people worked on good indie games like Freedom planet? Not a whole lot.
It's almost like making videogames takes a certain skillset, but the average indie dev doesn't know this. They just want to shit out their horrible pixel art fuck fests and make easy money.
Regardless, going into sprites is a fool's errand. You're not gonna be able to compete with ancient japanese masters or french specialists. Just make shitty 3d models instead. It's less pathetic when you get compared to something like the latest call of duty, rather than master crafted metal slug sprites.
>>342793698
What game
>>342773368
amazing innit
>>342795806
Those details, shading and touches they add to the final sprites which they draw on top of the reference images could have been put to the 3D model itself and tweak the renderer a bit so that you could simply just render the model and it would end up looking like the final product.
What a giant waste of time and effort.
This is a music track from a 1997 racing game, on PC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv6sN2EGLAg&list=FLeBSx0PzSGzuHZ1uUG1hK7w&index=43
This is a 1996 PC game.
>>342796101
It's not nostalgia if I still play and enjoy them over AAA shit salads that get released today. ;^)
>>342796519
Too bad it crashes on my PC.
>>342774591
Playan that right now famalam
>>342796269
what the literal fuck is this picture
did a schizo make it
>>342796825
I wish I could still play it but after 600 hours only MP interests me.
>>342796370
Your post makes me miss low poly models. They had a charm to them.
>>342796679
>still
You only enjoy those games becasue you experienced them as a kid. If you were playing them for the first time today as a kid you would not enjoy them and if you do it's only because you're a hipster. Sorry but new games are just better than the old ones only nostalgiafags would say otherwise
>>342796590
They wanted to make sprites, and they wanted them to scale all the way up to gigantic resolutions, thus they had to make new tech.
They knew how they wanted the game to look, so they did it.
>>342796854
/v/ might not care but I do.
>>342796590
Sprites scale better than 3D models.
>>342792437
that isnt a fucking thing you piece of fuck. sandboarding yes, sandboating no. kill yourself and this stupid tumblr gif.
This is a 1995 PC game running on Windows 7.
>>342796370
>SNK was originally like 10 guys.
10 years later they began development on the King of fighters series with a staff of around 50 not counting voice actors. They're also a corporate backed company, not indie, so they had development research time.
>>342792578
I'd so want to explore that place.
>>342797042
Yes of course how did I not see! The 20 year old game I found and literally only played a few months ago and enjoyed is due to nostalgia!
>>342796101
So 2016 Doom's multiplayer is better than 1996 Quake's multiplayer? That's what you're saying right?
And there's a game right now with objectively better multiplayer than CS? And only my nostalgia is preventing me from seeing all this? Even though I've never played any of these games?
Basically you're saying this guy is just a totally wrong 12+18 year old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPqwDGXxLhU
>>342797226
No I meant like make the 3D models look better and then render them to sprites, don't use the primitive models made for reference images they had.
It would eliminate the need to draw anything by hand, there are tons of plugins and shit that makes 3D models look like drawings/cartoons.
stfu already
>>342794076
radiation in fallout isnt like real radiation, after 200 year pretty much all of the radiation would be gone senpai.
>>342797594
That's what Guilty Gear does.
>>342797272
There's no way they had 50 developers back in 1994. 50+ total employees, sure, but that includes all the service people for their hardware business.
Metal slug and their beat 'em up games were made by specific internal teams under ur-veteran supervision. I don't think KOF was any different. They probably pulled a guy from this team, one from that team, a sprite artist here, got a composer there, and that was it. You're now team KOF! Find a way to merge all these franchises into one. You have this budget, and one year.
>>342797042
>You only enjoy those games becasue you experienced them as a kid.
I never played Super Mario 3 or Deus Ex until this year and they are head and shoulders over modern titles.
>>342773368
Anyone else see an angry face with blue teeth on his torso?
>>342797829
>>342797594
It's not as simple as putting code into unreal and then it produces a videogame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E
>>342797937
yes
This is a 2016 video game
>>342773747
A E S T H E T I C
>>342798143
This is european box art from 1988.
>>342797486
Nah you're just a hipster.
>>342773125
This was made in 1990 for the NES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_gObHt1uZA
>>342798491
diz iz baitz
>>342798491
“Hipster” is a term co-opted for use as a meaningless pejorative in order to vaguely call someone else’s authenticity into question and, by extension, claim authenticity for yourself.
It serves no conversational function and imparts no information, save for indicating the opinions and preferences of the speaker.
Meanwhile, a market myth has sprung up around the term, as well as a cultural bogeyman consisting of elusive white 20-somethings who wear certain clothes (but no one will agree on what), listen to certain music (no one can agree on this either), and act a certain way (you’ve probably sensed the pattern on your own).
You can’t define what “that kind of behavior or fashion or lifestyle” actually is, nor will you ever be able to. That’s because you don’t use “hipster” to describe an actual group of people, but to describe a fictional stereotype that is an outlet for literally anything that annoys you.
The twist, of course, is that if it weren’t for your own insecurities, nothing that a “hipster” could do or wear would ever affect you emotionally. But you are insecure about your own authenticity - “Do I wear what I wear because I want to? Do I listen to my music because I truly like it? I’m certainly not like those filthy hipsters!” - so you project those feelings.
Suffice it to say, no one self-identifies as a hipster; the term is always applied to an Other, to separate the authentic Us from the inauthentic, “ironic” Them.
>>342773125
This is a Japanese roguelike.
>>342798491
brah you can't just say "nobody does X" and then claim everybody who says they do X is "just a hipster."
1.- how does that constitute any sort of valid argument?
2.- is a hipster not a person, and are there not a fuckton of hipsters?
you need to wake up and realize that even people you don't like are going to buy and play videogames.
This is Hideo Kojima's first game made in 1986.
>>342798491
ill just throw around buzzwords, thatll get em!
>>342793579
scrolling a background? Pretty sure many devs figured out how to do that
this is a 1992 pc game
>>342796370
>that posts image
fucking THAT. you know whats a story that girl gaymers never seem to bring up? there is a country where the woman demanded that men pander to them, and make games for them, and the men said "lol fuck off, do it yourself"
and you know what they did? they did it themselves. now, if you look at that country they have a section of the gaming industry, an ENTIRE genre to themselves, because they fucking nutted up and made their games without anybodys help. if your a man and trying to break into that slice of the pie, gettttt ready to be laffed the fuck out, sorry, woman only!
WHY dont we hear about this incredible story of resilience in the face of adversity, that yes, woman are STRONK?
because its japans boy love visual novel industry. and THATS internal misogyny, and that would look baddddddd
meanwhile, western women have nutted up, teamed together and...asked for mens help. good going western women.
>>342799032
that moment you realise that freddy the fish is agirl
>>342799032
>>342799187
fuck!!! these games were the bomb! im havin a moment
>>342798672
Nah just the truth.
>>342798712
Nice copypasta. Obviously written by by an assblasted hipster who was butthurt he got called out on being a hipster.
>>342798826
I never said "nobody does X". I said only nostalgia fags and hipsters do it, which is true.
you need to wake up and realize that the world has moved on without you and nobody cares about your grandpa games.
>>342798925
buzzword is a buzzword
if you don't know what a hipster is thats your problem
>>342799187
holy shit my mind is blown
>>342799295
they're all on Steam.
>>342797523
>So 2016 Doom's multiplayer is better than 1996 Quake's multiplayer?
Yes? Quake 1's multiplayer is exteremely dated and archaic in comparision to even the most mediocere modern multiplayer shooters. Who the fuck would want to go back to that? Other than nostalgiafags and hipsters of course. There's a reason why Q1's multiplayer is dead.
>>342797523
>And there's a game right now with objectively better multiplayer than CS?
CS:GO, BLOPS3, BF4, Overwatch, League of Legends, Halo 5, R6 Siege, the list goes on.
>Even though I've never played any of these games?
Then how would you know that they're worse than the old games you worship? You just outed yourself as a hipster.
>Basically you're saying this guy is just a totally wrong 12+18 year old.
He's a dumb youtuber with irrelavent opinions blinded by his own nostalgia
>>342797885
Deus Ex is increadibly overrated trash RPG that only fedora wearing PC autists worship. Blown out of the water by modern successors like Human revolution and Disohonered
"OH look at me guise! I just played Combat on my Atari the other day and it's head and shoulders over Battelfied and World of Tanks! My taste in video games is very sophisticated!"
>>342799187
>>342799032
You will never be 8, renting a computer in the public library to play these games again.
A simpler time.
>>342798281
Imagine a game with that aesthetic
>The Glorious Silver Faggot In: The Metal Men of Doctor Wiley's Castle
>>342799295
you are now aware each humongous games had a hidden animated sequence that was either evil or horror related
like freddi feeds her friend luther to the eel, murdering him, or pajama sam wipes his ass with his cap
you can find these on thecuttingroomfloor
>>342799482
Would be a good japanese live action show.
>>342799359
oh fuck!! cool! they really are such fun point and click adventures. i honestly got stuck sometimes on sequences.
>>342799456
I agree that Deus Ex is shit but it's still better than Human Revolution. Dishonored is better than both however.
>>342773125
M&M6 and M&M7 were so damn good
It's such a goddamn shame the series fell apart after these two games
>>342799323
deez baitz
this is a game in 2016
>>342799482
you've clearly never heard of Stylistic Suck
>>342798712
>elusive white 20-somethings who wear certain clothes (but no one will agree on what), listen to certain music (no one can agree on this either), and act a certain way (you’ve probably sensed the pattern on your own).
>>342799578
I never finished Putt Putt Travels Through Time. I don't remember what I got stuck on, but I plan on revisiting it eventually.
>>342797334
There's actually a lot of people around now. Either security or former residence. You'll have to wait for the sarcophagus to crack and it'll be nice and desolate again. You'll also turn into a giant tumor.
>>342799323
It's okay I won't hold it against you, you were born into an era of shitty games that have spoiled you with their shiny chrome and multicolored confetti, thus ruining any sort of fun you could have had playing games before 2000.
>>342799689
The term "hipster" went irrelevant and defunct like 5 years ago
>2016
>still bitching about hipsters
>>342799724
i've only played the freddi fish and pajama sam games, is puttputt the same sort of playstyle im guessing?
>>342799817
t. Hipster
>>342773883
That is not what the game looked like in 1996.
>>342793798
But then again that's the west coast, which is a lot of desert. Meanwhile the east coast is a bit more temperate and has lots of forests and swampland, where it would make sense to have copious amounts of foliage.
>>342799836
yep
>>342799323
nobody doesn't understand what hipster means more than the people who actually try to use is as an insult.
>>342797834
Wasn't Metal Slug made by Nazca?
>>342799939
the discussion was originally about foliage in nevada in the fallout universe
>>342799978
English please
>>342799650
You cheeky fucker. But the black at the bottom is a penguin not oil. The game is Penguin Adventures.
>>342799323
uh, dude, your retard is showing. your understanding of these concepts are next to zero.
>>342795468
Always weird when someone uses my images on /v/
But fuck you Vivendi. I still hate you. And Roberta Williams too.
>>342799785
Nah, I'm just not a deluded grandpa who desperately clings onto the past and can't apprecaite any games made after 2005 because of nostalgia
>>342799872
Nobody said anything about it, he just pointed out that it was released in 1996.
>>342799872
it's not even the game anon claims it is. Says quakespasm right in the filename. That's from 2010 at the earliest, and from this year at the latest
>>342800068
i haven't misspoken just because you can't fucking read.
>>342800152
>your understanding of these concepts are next to zero.
I'm not the one who thinks Hipster is meaningless.
Confimred retard in a thread calling others retarded
>>342800089
You can never be sure with Kojima. Also forgot the fish.
So basically it's confirmed Death Stranding is Penguin Adventure sequel
>>342800223
>it was released in 1996
off by only 14 years, it happens
This way to the back stage, fellas!
>>342797834
The oldest could find was KoF 96.
Looks like over 20 designers alone.
https://youtu.be/rYGNL0eYQrI?t=377
>>342800297
"nobody doesn't understand what hipster means more than" is not english. This isn't debatable.
>>342800023
That was the team's name, yes. They had a lot of old irem developers, and were supposed to be their own company, but SNK bought them out early on.
I think some of their guys moved to Platinum games after SNK bankrupted the first time.
They also made golfing games.
this is a 98 game
>>342776210
Just bought it the other day, and holy shit were the pirates always that aggressive in the campaigns?
>>342800221
Arguing with ridiculous extremes and caricatures, classy.
>>342799482
There was a cartoon with that aesthetic
>>342774023
Meanwhile, Project Cars is almost playable...
>>342800221
these opinions contain no information or quantifiable truths or facts. no solid material. they hold absolutely no weight and have absolutely zero meaning. you're just arbitrarily deciding that people who like old video games are somehow bad, and trying to argue that your opinion of their badness is a fact that is agreeable.
it isn't. you're not clever, witty, or relatable at all. you're spouting blind, delusional bullshit, and people are calling you out and correcting you. get the fuck over yourself. this much fucking elitism and it's almost like i could call you a fucking hipster.
>>342787048
> Is that a "loss" reference in KoTH?
No, it isn't. You dumb memer.
> Am I trying to reference this image to loss?
Yes
>>342800423
its more like, informal writing, isnt it. you know, informal, formal, all about how the appropriateness of the level of grammer or language you use?
see, the problem here is, you seem to think that 4chan, is a formal location. like the whitehouse, and not the ghetto
well, your wrong. id advise you to relearn what they tried to teach you in the 4th grade, if you wanna be a grammer nazi who dosent look fucking stupid
>>342800231
>what are source ports
You doofus.
Quakespasm is a port of Quake's source code so you can play it on a modern system without using fucking DOSBox. It has no improved lighting or graphics effects outside of the same things GLQuake added, which was released January 1997.
>>342800585
that floor is a fucking humblebrag. Also, you really make me want to replay Doom 3
>>342800221
If you grew up playing video games during the 90's to today you'd notice that there has been a drastic shit in the quality of gaming. It went from a hobby a group of people worked on that happened to get compensated for it, to an industrialized homogenized industry that caters to everyone by stripping out most mechanics and appealing to the lowest common denominator. Modern games miss that special something that devs used to put into their games because they genuinely cared about their work and didn't care about money or what people wanted to play.
>>342800423
it is debatable, 100%. because you are 100% incorrect. you're literally just misreading it if you think that is incorrect.
>>342775009
That's a fantastic looking face. Why does every other texture look like shit by comparison?
>>342800359O SHIT WADDUP
>>342799673
Looks like garbage. Games from 20 years are leauges better like pic related any gaming aficionado such as myself knows that because we know what true gaming is, begone with your shiny bloom and multicolored confetti modern trash.
>>342800685
>what are source ports
badly named, when they add new features. This one adds new features (that resolution is far from standard, don't know how much Quake supported accelerators back then). So it's effectively written in 2010, using an old code base as inspiration, and some old assets. That's about it. Engine's from 2010 or more recent
>>342800737
Because it's a 2002 game
>meanwhile in Bethesdaland
>>342800731
you realise that nobody dosent translates to everyone does.
nobody
does not.
if nobody, does not know...then everyone...does know
>>342797523
Damn that video is so damn right about AAA trashes these days.
>>342775491
Everything looks incredible except for that damn tie.
>>342800719
>didn't care about money or what people wanted to play
Whoa there. I like gothic, morrowind and deus ex as much as the next gamer but let's not go full retard.
>>342800737
Hardware limitations obviously. They focused on making people's faces look good but didn't have the performance budget to make everything else on par.
>>342800737
It's easier to put motion captured faces into a game than super mega res the surroundings.
While it's still very detailed, his shirt is quite a lot less impressive than the face.
>>342790936
How many times did you compress this dickhead
>>342800759
you crazy man, this game looks so good. It's my goty, even with some problems with game flow.
>>342800665
thank you. i don't have to write a structured college essay every time i reply to some fucktard. the comment was perfectly understandable and to not understand it is to be combattive and contradicting for the sake of being those things.
>>342800423
ask yourself: IS the wording stupid? or are YOU stupid?
>>342800865
People flipped their shit and threw down hundreds for the latest video card to get that water though.
This is a 2001 game running on 1996 console hardware.
>>342801004
shillan' for da killan'
>>342800731
it is not debatable, because you are 100% incorrect. you literally don't know english if you think you are correct.
>>342800665
blah blah blah, excuses excuses.
id advise you to relearn what they tried to teach you in the 4th grade, because you can't write in proper english and look fucking stupid
>>342792474
Also not a desert fucksticknigger
This is a PC-98 game
>>342800737
priorities. You have limited VRAM, to put all your textures in. So you give objects more VRAM (higher resolution textures) that really need all the detail, and accept some pixelation on the ones that don't. If you look at old texture maps for characters often half the map is reserved for the face, while the remaining half is the entire body of that character.
>>342800972
Not a performance budget, memory
>>342800978
motion capturing has nothing to do with texturing
>>342801057
the water still looks pretty good to this day
everything else looks like dogshit though
>>342800529
>>342800636
Sorry you can't handle the truth.
>>342801087
>id advise you to relearn what they tried to teach you in the 4th grade, because you can't write in proper english
i just TOLD you. the difference between formal and informal.
here, lets help ya.
is there a difference between formal, and informal text
A) yes
B) no
if you choseA, congratulations! you passed 4th grade!
>>342800329
it is fucking worthless, anon, you're being called retarded because you are retarded.
>>342800958
They might not have minded getting paid, but it wasn't their primary goal or focus.
>>342801004
that game wows me less than Doom 3 did back then. What's the spectacular stuff I'm supposed to look for?
>1.44 MB
magnificent bastard
>>342801180
If you can't help being so obvious, I really don't know why you bother at all.
>>342800719
>If you grew up playing video games during the 90's to today you'd notice that there has been a drastic shit in the quality of gaming.
>they genuinely cared about their work and didn't care about money
Thanks for proving my point. You're completely blinded by nostalgia and actually believe the game industry in the 90's was anything other than a commercial industry where games were developed for maximum profit. You're delusional if you think these old games were anything special as opposed to today's games
>>342801079
Did he died?
>>342801231
Says the worthless retarded who is mad
>>342773125
MM8 runs on the same engine and came out in 2000.
>>342800068
>>342800897
it does when you're actually factually misreading it.
read as:
nobody "doesn't understand what hipster means," more than the people who actually try to use it as an insult.
it's not incorrect or invalid or wrong just because you're not fucking intelligent enough to extrapolate these simple concepts. this is 4chan, not a MRA formatted essay. being a grammar nazi alone already makes you a retarded faggot, but in this case its like a cherry on top. every single thing you fucking say is fucking garbage. get over yourself.
>>342801365
>Thanks for proving my point
wow, I'm not the person you talked to, but you're one cynical anon. Go read a book on game dev and post mortems from mid to late 90s games
>>342801004
It's a fun game, the early levels are meh but the later levels flow so good.
>>342801281
It's fun, just a shame there is no modding.
>>342801303
Sorry I posted obvious facts. If you can't accept that then you're just hopeless.
>>342801365
And you're delusional if you don't recognize the massive creative void in today's video game industry.
>>342773125
I was 7 or so when I played this. Absolutely terrified me and I had no idea what I was doing.
I remember getting to ride a horse for a bit, and a troll under a bridge.
>>342801379
He suffered a fate worse than death. He got redesigned for modern audiences.
>>342799456
do you go to /g/ by any chance
>>342800759
I know what you mean even if you're being a sperg over it.
Clutter is a big problem in modern games, and its only getting bigger as games are more and more impressive graphically.
There is so many things on your screen at once, everything is so detailed and bootiful it becomes hard to focus on the important parts.
However Doom 2016 really is a bad example, the game is beautiful BUT they managed to make everything ( hp and armor pick ups, items like secrets, etc ) easily identifiable.
There are many others games where it is a problem because everything is grey or brown ( like wolfenstein TNO ), Doom isnt one of them really.
Also pls get off your high horse.
I love retro Doom too, but you should acknowledge that the new one got many things right. Hating on it just sends the message to others devs to release the same crap we had to deal with these last few years ( TNO being overrated as fuck imho, Shadow Warrior 2 while being awesome in theory isnt fun to play at all, SS3 is mediocre with crappy gunplay, etc the list goes on ).
new Doom is one of those games where you feel like getting gud expands the scope of the game, the campaign might be short but I think its very replayable too. Its rare enough nowadays to be worth mentioning.
Finally and because it seems to bother you so much you can disable chromatic aberration, all kinds of bloom and depths of field effects as I did before even starting the campaign. Adjusting the FoV to like 110 also greatly enhance your feeling of movement speed.
>>342801513
>>342801207
Again, more excuses.
You just exposed yourself as an idiot who can't read or write properly. Crying grammer nazi isn't going to save you.
>every single thing you fucking say is fucking garbage
You are extremely butthurt.
>>342801079
should've posted conker on xbox. honestly looks better than a lot of the early 360 games.
>>342801521
I never mod, so that's not a problem. I don't doubt the game's fun, but isn't Doom usually supposed to be a graphics revelation?
>>342801436
is this bait? you literally have no other options here but "is a retard" or "is pretending to be a retard."
there are absolutely zero alternative scenarios. you're either fucking stupid or just being a fucking idiot on purpose. and both are a lose. you're pathetic and a fucking retarded faggot in all possible outcomes
>>342793698
>90's game dev costume party
>>342801365
Again it's not nostalgia if I still play older games and enjoy them faggot. And I do play games that get released today to compare them too. But of course you've never played anything older then 2000, or if you did, you stopped immediately within the first few seconds of trying because
>eww those graphics
>muh interactive movie
>where's the shooty-shooty?
>haha this game is too old!
>>342801116
Why was late '80s/early '90s anime style so shit?
>>342801634
>Hating on it just sends the message to others devs to release the same crap we had to deal with these last few years
if only. Since hating on the other crap didn't send the devs any message. They're stuck in their filter bubble.
>>342801519
Or maybe I'm just a realist who doesn't deluded himself into beliving revisionist history that games in the 90's were made out of good will and not for profit or that pandering shovelware didn't exist in the 90's based off some dev's self-flagulating post mortem.
>>342801532
>you don't recognize the massive creative void in today's video game industry.
You are genuinely delusional if you actually believe this. Get a grip.
>>342801696
Well I played on a ship pc for years so anything that is post 210 is pretty good for me. guess its not so impressive for people gaming at high settings for ages.
I hope there is dlc cause with some refinement and removing the arenas sections it would silence the naysayers.
>>342801882
>maybe I'm just a realist
no, certainly not. You have an agenda
>>342801692
dude, im sorry, but an explanation that shouldnt have had to have been made is not comparable to an excuse. you can't just say somebody has exposed themselves as an idiot over every single thing you disagree with and also somehow think that people are going to at all agree with you. all of your "arguments" hold no weight, and the term hipster truly is meaningless. not in the sense that its jibberish, but in the sense that its usage is petty and stupid. the fact you even misunderstood that earlier is fucking laughable.
Here's aheavily modded2011 PC game
>>342801701
Says the complete idiot who has said nothing of worth just random insults.
>you're either fucking stupid or just being a fucking idiot on purpose. and both are a lose. you're pathetic and a fucking retarded faggot in all possible outcomes
You're projecting your own faggotry and stupidity unto others.
>>342801882
>You are genuinely delusional if you actually believe this. Get a grip.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
>>342799537
lies
>>342801365
>If you grew up playing video games during the 90's to today you'd notice that there has been a drastic shit in the quality of gaming.
>it's not nostalgia if I still play older games and enjoy them faggot
Yes it is. You're the definition of a nostalgiafag
>>342800838
>don't know how much Quake supported accelerators back then
GLQuake (1997, and the version the ports are usually based off) will run at any resolution you plug in with any HUD size you want through launch options.
>-width 1920 -height 1280 -conwidth 864 -conheight 486 +fov 106
So no, that resolution is not far from standard. It's within standard range because standard is any number you want.
>using an old code base as inspiration, and some old assets. That's about it. Engine's from 2010 or more recent
The engine is from 1996. It doesn't use old code base as an inspiration, it IS that old code base with some lines tweaked to run on a modern system.
Valve has used the Source engine since 2004. The current (pre-2) version has way more features than the CSS/HL2 version, but would you call it anything but Source or claim it's not the same engine?
>>342801953
I have not played anything newer than Legend of Grimrock, and nothing better looking either. Stuff like Crysis or Uncharted or whatever's the latest craze I only know from screenshots or webms. It's just, lately these games have become so uniform, and oddly "flat". I mean, they're still 3D, obviously, but everything about them has this kind of 2D drawn look. Maybe the deferred lighting? Doom 4 is just kind of one of many very similar looking games. I can not and will not comment on its gameplay, this is entirely visually. It just doesn't move me, at all.
This is a 1999 PC game
>>342796957
>693 hours logged
>haven't touched multi
>just started another game
>>342801979
>the term hipster truly is meaningless
t. illiterate hipster
You're the laughing stock of the thread, please keep making us laugh.
>>342800952
Paisley often divides opinion.
>>342800636
>>342799785
>>342800529
why do you fucking morons keep replying to him just drop it you dumb cunts jesus christ you fuckwits are the easiest to bait i swear to god good job ruining a decent thread
>>342801965
Really? I have a agenda? Not the nostalgiafag arguing that there's a creative void in the industry because games in the 90's were made for creativity and not for commercial purposes and to make profit? Please.
>>342802098
God could you be any more pretentious.
>>342800446
My nigga, Claw was the shit.
>>342793698
you are such a faggort.
>>342802149
>It doesn't use old code base as an inspiration, it IS that old code base with some lines tweaked to run on a modern system
you wish. These engines usually got plenty of cleanup
>would you call it anything but Source or claim it's not the same engine?
sure, if it changed quite fundamentally? You don't write anything like that from scratch, that'd be silly. Even tech 5 is based on tech 4, which is based on tech 3, and so on. You'd not claim Rage runs on the Quake 3 engine though, would you? To some degree it does though, code's still in there, or parts of it, heavily adapted
>>342802037
i really don't know how to tell you this, anon, but you are the one blatantly projecting.. the problem is, you're the kind of person that can be told the literal most logical and factual truths, and you'd still deny them. you're the kind of person that, instead of actually giving any sort of reasons why your opinions should be notable at all, just calls everyone salty and a hipster.
you haven't grown up past the fact that these words and views are shallow and vague. they contain no actual information.
instead of telling us how old games are somehow bad yet new games are somehow worse, you're just telling us that you dislike the people who play them. you have no actual point. you're trying to pass off "they're just oldfag hipsters!!" as some sort of verifiable truth, and it's getting a little fucking sad. you have no peers here.
>>342801882
>creative void
The bandwagons are out of control these days. If one semi-original idea comes around 7-8 other developers will try to make a clone asap.
There aren't as many design risks being taken. It's all about finding an existing formula that will sell.
>>342802439
>no ur projecting
>you're the kind of person that can be told the literal most logical and factual truths, and you'd still deny them
>you haven't grown up past the fact that these words and views are shallow and vague. they contain no actual information.
Pot calling the kettle black.
>>342802376
>God
>pretentious
Derailed again.
This poor thread just can't catch a break.
>>342802509
Yes because clones weren't made in the 80's and 90's. Doom clone? What's that?
Give me a fucking break.
>>342802183
Games like Asheron's Call and EQ were incredibly atmospheric considering the shit graphics.
>>342802636
what's the topic of the thread anyway? I don't get the "this is a <year> <platform> game" meme
>>342802579
if that's all you could take from that entire text then i just don't know what to fucking tell you dude.
cool. you think people are old farts and hipsters. totally agreeable and not agendad bullshit at all. you win.
>>342802636
Let's talk about dungeon crawlers. This is a 2014 game made by finngolians on a shitty indie budget.
>>342802715
RPGs are traditionally several years behind graphically
>>342802439
Ironically instead of telling us how old games are somehow better yet new games are somehow worse, you're just calling everyone who disagrees with you retarded.
you have no actual point. you're trying to pass off "games were better back then!!" as some sort of verifiable truth, and it's actually pretty fucking sad. you have no peers in the real world. nobody cares about your or your worthless opinions
>>342802742
I'm not sure either, other than nostalgia, but it surely wasn't meant to be a thread for a pissing-contest.
>>342802438
>These engines usually got plenty of cleanup
define cleanup
the file system is the same, the maps and editing tools are the same, the physics are the same, the framerate is still locked, the quakeC script files are the same, the netcode is the same, the .pak content archives are exactly the same. various engine quirks like overly-large maps looping on themselves and strafejumping still exist, nothing's been 'cleaned up' there
what the FUCK do you mean
>>342795271
> play scorched earth with my dad
> have ability to one or two shot him every time
> think I have super powers
> nope its autism
>>342802742
it was supposed to be that but then this one faggot came in and decided it was his thread where everybody who likes old games is a nostalgia hipster.
Does anyone have a control setup that makes Daggerfall play more like a modern game?
>>342802183
>>342802715
>tfw its 2016 and i still play ac....
>>342802745
I mean, you're guilty of everything you accused me of and then tried to claim I'm the one projecting. So really I don't know what the tell you.
>>342802835
you have misunderstood almost every single word said to you
amazing
>>342802764
Yeah and it's utter shit compared to this game from 1990.
>>342802715
>>342802183
> incredibly atmospheric
>>342802881
>it was supposed to be that
supposed to be what? How is that meme supposed to work?
>>342801634
>Shadow Warrior 2 while being awesome in theory isnt fun to play at all
Did you mean Shadow Warrior 1? or do you think the upcoming one will be shit?
>>342803009
>dude why is this dungeon master clone focused on puzzles not like wizardry
>>342802881
Sorry you can't handle the truth.
>>342795612
Well back then games were made by people that liked playing video games. The when they found out there was money in it the investors and business men and "idea guys" moved in and it all went to shit.
>>342792272
anon, what's just south-east of Las Vegas?
>>342802907
REEEE stop enjoying old gaems!
>>342802659
Doom clone? You mean literally all first person shooters?
Dev cycles are much shorter now and games are cheaper. The flood of rogue likes and MOBAs don't justify them selves as well as the Duke Nukems, Hexens and Shadow Warriors.
>>342803007
Your reading comprehension is utter garbage. I just feel sorry for you.
>>342802948
except im not? im not calling people retarded just for liking video games, im calling you retarded because you are retarded. you are being called out for being negative. that in and of itself is not a second instance of negativity. get it through your fucking skull that nobody fucking cares that you think they are hipsters. you're not saying the same thing at all. i basically haven't even mentioned video games. just how much you are being a fucking idiot.
>>342802764
Fuck that game, I ran out of potions half way through and got stuck at the green slime monsters.
>>342791889
Wow, look at those mountains texture. Is this GTA V? Looks like shit.
>>342802715
Imma let you finish, but Anarchy Online has one of the best atmospheres of all time!
This is a 2001 PC game, lest I forget.
>>342803117
idea guys aren't bad per se. Sometimes an outsider's position helps to explore new angles. Just got to make sure you keep these idea guys in check and stay in control. Suits can get fucked though. They're leeches
>>342803108
I don't know, why isn't it? Would you accept Tennis Pro Manager 2016: Wimbledon Edition that played like Pong because HEHE IT'S A PONG CLONE LOL.
>>342803212
How do you run out of potions when alchemists can literally grow more plants from thin air for brewing when you have at least one plant?
>another good thread is derailed
This is a /v/ culture.
>>342803075
again, it's not a meme just because you misread it. look at what it's fucking replying to. you have to be trying to be retarded on purpose at this point. your alleged confusion does not correlate the wording or intelligence of my post, and only correlates with your own.
>>342803117
>Well back then games were made by people that liked playing video games.
They still are. People realized there was money in games ever since the 70's. The 90's gaming industry was was no less profit driven, investors and buisness men are always what made your favorite old games possible.
Take off your nostalgia goggles already. Christ.
>>342803278
what are you even trying to say
>>342803336
while you're complaining about a derailment, all the people not argueing with that cynical anon are having a good thread
>>342803336
No, this is shitposting culture. It's on all of the boards but concentrated here because this is the board where everyone else comes to post their trash.
>>342803208
Literally just proving my point. You're a hypocrite in denial. Keep projecting kid.
>>342803374
>it's not a meme just because you misread it. look at what it's fucking replying to
I'm confused, I'm talking about OP, the thread subject. >>342802636 said the thread got derailed, so I asked what the actual thread subject is. Are you saying "this is a <year> <platform> game" is not a meme? From what I gather it seems to rely on a lot of unspoken cultural understanding, you know, like a meme does
>>342803109
dude, you aren't welcomed here. your behavior is frowned upon. you aren't agreeable. you aren't correct. you just saying that people who enjoy video games are somehow bad for enjoying them in some form.
nostalgia and hipster are sure terms that have meaning, but you are not using those meanings in this context. you're just spouting your bigotry and passing it off as undeniable fact. in no reality is this true. in no reality is coming into an old game thread and claiming everyone is a nostalgia hipster some sort of commendable act. you're just a prick. that's it.
>>342773125
Looks pretty shit for a 98 game, the same year Half-Life, OoT and MGS came out.
>>342803428
You can't call anon cynical while implying modern games went to shit. Thats the most cynical position one could take.
>>342803660
it's an RPG
>>342803198
>Dev cycles are much shorter now and games are cheaper.
This is literally the complete opposite of reality. Dev cycles are longer than ever taking +3-4 years to pump out a AAA game that costs hundreads of millions of dollars to develop. Modern MMOs are esepcially guilty this as it can take more than half decade to bring an MMO to market and almost bankrupt a company.
You are completely ignornant if you think clone games weren't prevalent in the 90's. The only difference between now and then is that the tools for making cheap vidya are more accessible than before.
>>342803257
wow, forgot about that one.
First scifi 3D MMO
>>342803617
im saying that the thing you thought was the point of the thread, IS the point, or rather WAS the point. the fact i said "supposed to be" after your confusion shouldve been enough to see how it was in direct reply to your wording. it also wasn't hostile at all. you asked a qquestion and i answered. it was supposed to be a thread about game date system, but then that faggot came in and decided everyone was a nostalgia hipster, and that that somehow mattered.
I remember very fondly playing one of the Might and Magic games at my friends house as a kid. I dont know which one it was but I rememeber you could kill everything easily if you made everyone use bows and shoot arrows. You could go to heaven and kill angels I remember.
>>342803840
>Dev cycles are longer than ever taking +3-4 years to pump out a AAA game that costs hundreads of millions of dollars to develop
industry split. AAA shit turned into movies, but indie shit can be churned out on a monthly schedule and a burger budget without breaking a sweat
>>342803641
>muh sekret club reeeeeeeeeeee you aren't corect you aren't welcome here get out get out get ooooooooooooooooout
Blow it out your ass hipster prick. This board doesn't belong to you.
>>342803428
this desu
>>342803840
>AAA game that costs hundreads of millions of dollars to develop
With voice acting and advertising that costs hundreds of millions, you mean.
>>342803641
>you just saying that people who enjoy video games are somehow bad for enjoying them in some form.
>>342800719
>>342799785
>>342803973
that isn't at all the sentiment of my wording and you're just inserting your own bullshit, dude. come on.
>>342803912
>im saying that the thing you thought was the point of the thread, IS the point
And I am saying I do not get the point of "this is a <year> <platform> game". Is it ironic to mock the quality of the game? Is it supposed to be a technology brag? Is it a nostalgia circle jerk? Is it random screenshot posting with a comment pattern?
>a thread about game date system
What IS a thread like that supposed to be? I do not get this meme, at all.
>>342802636
Its got one guy in here that is some kind of bait genius. He just keeps on throwing it out there and they just keep biting it.
>>342804048
uh, im not the same anon
>>342803840
Potentially shorter. A lot of mobile games are put together in under a week.
>>342804019
You can move the goalposts around all you want. the fact is that "Dev cycles are much shorter now" simply isn't true.
>>342804187
I'm almost tempted to really derail the thread, but I don't want to be banned for a week again for posting ito.
>>342804137
dude that reply wasn't even a reply to you! you're just replying to anybody who looks like they have an opinion that isn't yours, now.
>>342803912
>then that faggot came in and decided everyone was a nostalgia hipster
well you guys kinda proved that with the whole "games went to shit after the 90s" rhetoric
>>342803109
do you post on /g/
>>342804197
Those mobile games are the equivlaent of shockwave and flash games of the early 00's. Only mobile games are monatized.
>>342803417
(you)
>>342804291
I have no idea what you just said. All I asked was what the thread topic is. Someone went tautological on me, and now you're going full gibberish.
>>342804297
except that im not the one who was making those arguments. both arguments are stupid. you have no point to make. you're just being contradictory for the sake of it.
This is a 1993 PC shovelware game
>>342804196
Weird how you're not calling out those posts for doing the very same thing you're whining about. It couldn't possibly be because you're shallow and biased?
send help
>>342803301
Wait what? Was that a class you assign at the beginning? Because I don't think any of my team mates can do that.
>>342804209
Yeah I'm not whoever you were arguing with. Just dropped by to laugh at you saying games have 8 digit development costs.
>>342804272
I usually use this
>>342804101
your entire "sentiment" is bullshit.
"you aren't welcomed here. your behavior is frowned upon. you aren't correct." seriously get over yourself asshat.
>>342804421
dude. you got a straightforward reply and just misread it.
you asked, "is this supposed to be an X thread?" and got the reply "it was supposed to be that, but then faggot"
how is this at all controversial? where is the conflict?
>>342804486
How to extract those reaction faces?
>>342804548
>>342773125
what's your point? it looks like shit
>>342804437
>except that im not the one who was making those arguments
Why would that matter? The fact is those arguments are being made and you're pretending otherwise because YOU personally didn't make them. You're not the only person in this thread you know.
>both arguments are stupid.
Yet you only chose to focus on one of them while pretending the other doesn't exist.
>you have no point to make. you're just being contradictory for the sake of it.
This is literally what you're doing. YOU have no point to make.
>>342804502
There's an alchemist class that can cultivate plants and give you an infinite supply of them. You can pretty much set yourself up for a bomb spamming build that just destroys everyone.
>>342804651
>>342804717
Charlotte's Web 2?
>>342804480
they're making separate arguments than you are. there's not a whole lot of reason for me to reply to you specifically while also defending your points against them. old games are cool. new games are cool. thinking people are nostalgia hipsters is sure a thing you can do, but it doesn't fucking matter and nobody fucking cares. you're taking precisely the wrong interpretation out of every reply made to you, on the premise that it's all just about video games. but no, it's about you just being a huge prick and being told to fuck off. it's not more complicated than that.
>>342804510
I never said they did? Where do you see anyone claim it costs tens of billions of dollars to make? Your reading comprehension is laughable.
>>342804591
very carefully
>>342804717
>>342804575
again, not wrong just because you didnt get it.
>>342804653
it's a nostalgia thread, anon.
>>342804838
>>342773747
DEFENDER OF THE POLYVERSE
>>342804770
Actually they were counter arguments to the ones I made, ones that disprove what you were saying earlier.
>it doesn't fucking matter and nobody fucking cares
Same could be said about your opinions
>You're taking precisely the wrong interpretation out of every reply made to you
There you go being a hypocrite again.
>>342804838
spider mom makes my dick hard
>>342804580
You're hardly one to talk about straightforwardness when you can't grasp the simple question this guy is asking.
>>342804421
For the record I don't get the meme/whatever either. But if I did I would have no problem explaining it. This conversation is so bizarre and annoying to read that I felt the need to chime in. You have my sympathy.
>>342804940
You're right, this does work pretty well.
>>342804940
>>342804802
>bueno
>>342804850
There's nothing to get. Just because you pulled it out of your ass doesn't make it true. This isn't your secret club where only people agreeable to you are welcome. Again get over yourself.
>>342804580
I asked
>what's the topic of the thread anyway?
but also added
>I don't get the "this is a <year> <platform> game" meme
That means, I am unfamiliar with the meme used in OP, and do not actually understand how to decode it. Responding to such a post with "yeah, it's that meme" is not very helpful. The remainder of the posts I asked "but what's that meme about?" and got variants of "IT'S THAT MEME!!!"
>where is the conflict?
I do not understand the concept behind the meme. OPs pic is an RPG with an outdated engine. I can not tell if OP posted it ironically or not. I can not tell if OP meant to go for the nostalgia angle, or if it's a mustard race clickbait along the lines of "look how shitty PC games used to be". I literally do not know what kind of screens I'm supposed to post on this thread. I do sense that I'm supposed to add the "this is a <platform> <year> game" caption for lol reasons, but beyond that, I have no idea. Posts from others aren't helping, because some of them are trying to boast high end visuals, others are showing even worse stuff than OP, others are rooting their posts in plain nostalgia for that time. I don't have a problem with either of these topics, but I have no idea what the actual topic of the thread is.
>>342805008
thanks dude. Not giving up just yet
>>342805042
>>342805126
RIP
This is robotnik
>>342804048
I don't think it's bad, but that's not going to stop me from commenting on it.
>>342805126
>>342805126
loss?
The next time you want to post your old grandpa games remember this thread.
If you want to circlejerk over your dad games then take it to >>>/vr/ This is OUR board now, there's nothing you can do about it.
>>342805202
>>342805202
I'd be crying if not for the fact I've already seen this
>mfw this thread
>>342805182
>I don't think it's bad, but that's not going to stop me from commenting how it's bad
>>342774805
Look, I see what you were trying to do, but it still gave me cancer.
>>342805276
>>342805102
you are autistic and should hang yourself
>>342805364
>>342805382
same goes for every adult male who enjoys games made before 2006
>>342804665
im not pretending otherwise, you are just misreading the actual direction of the criticisms being made towards you. i didn't even see those other people until now. only the one is being focused on because it's the one i fucking chose to focus on, oh fucking no?
like, who cares? about anything you have to say? literally who cares?
"nostalgia" who cares?
"hipster" who cares?
"not focusing on other argument" who cares?
maybe the other argument isn't being touched upon because those people aren't being huge argumentative pricks about it. they just said it and went on their way. you are fucking adamant that calling everyone a nostalgia hipster is the end-all, be all argument that cannot be trumped, but like, it's not even an argument. it's just petty buzzwordy insults being thrown around to somehow say old games are bad and you should feel bad. it's just a ploy to try to make yourself feel more superior. too bad absolutely nobody here actually fucking agrees with the full extent of your views. the combination of choice words you have given us are not desirable, and you are being shown the door. in this context, to disagree with this is indistinguishable from not understanding. because hipster is an opinion, but pointless fucktard is a state of being you just end up in. both may be things that people only refer to others as, but they dont function the same way when it comes to validity. you calling everyone nostalgia hipsters is pointless and meaningless and not insulting, but me calling you out is just a fucking fluid reaction to blatant bullshit. seriously, stop spewing this garbage. admit that you just like arguing on four chan dot org.
>>342805450
>>342805126
>Mfw I realize his intentions
Another thread in the pocket.
gg no re nostalgiafags
>>342805545
>>342805358
>I can't comment on how bad games are
>I'm somehow making bad comments on anon
KYS
>>342805584
Shut the fuck up, can't you see we're having storytime over here?
>>342805640
This is a 2007 PC game
>>342805525
>criticisms
Your autism fuled ranting and desperate attempt at shouting me down with namecalling isn't legitimite criticism
As for "who cares?" clearly you do otherwise you wouldn't be sperging out this hard about it. Your existence is pointless and meaningless and insulting to the woman who birthed you
>>342805747
Good ol' HellMOO
>>342805735
>>342805652
>You can comment on how bad games are
>Except if you comment on old games then you're somehow making bad comments on anon
you first
>>342776537
>1992
>vast open world of caves and cities and islands
>entire cities have schedules
>couples and families rise with the dawn or sleep in the night
>children visit a nursery at day to play with a talking mouse and go to bed at night
>bakers collect flour from a sack, water from a bucket, and make dough they must bake on an oven
>blacksmiths collect ore and use tools to create pieces they sell
>performers put on an evening show or rehearse by day
>guards light lamps at sunset and extinguish lamps at dawn during their patrol
>rich libraries of character dialogue presented throughout affects the world when possible
>NPCs speak to each other outside of talking with PC
>2012
>20 years later
>vast world of corridors and invisible walls & uncrossable barriers
>entire cities consist of a small handful of characters, maybe
>no schedules, they just sit around or repeat the same loop over and over
>no children, but a couple of crows that talk like infantile retards
>some dialogue that's kind of aimless and may vaguely be helpful
>NPCs never talk to anyone but PC
>>342773125
i still play it these days
>>342805813
>>342805008
how the fuck did i misunderstand it? he said: "is this supposed to be X?" and my reply is basically "yes."
i don't know how many time i have to tell you that intentionally misunderstanding and misreading my words does not correlate with my words being nonsense. it just means you can't fucking read, it just means you have no fucking sense of inferred logic or how the concept of that even works. you just don't even know what you're talking about. you're not giving any reasons or logic behind your point, still, either. you've yet to actually explain why you think your opinion is your opinion. what are the factors that let to this view? are they subjective, or are you just a dick? you're trying to claim people are hypocritical and stupid for calling you hypocritical and stupid, but not really saying Why.
>>342805640
I'm not gonna feel sorry for him. He's a murderer.
>>342805653
Yes enjoy your storytime while the thread whithers away and 404's. My job here is done, gg 2ez
>>342805901
~ fin
>>342805070
you're right, it isn't that, because that isn't fucking what i was talking about either, fucktard.
>>342805848
Not once have I ever said anything about how you're bad. Fucking reading comprehension much?
>>342805916
Your words are nonsense though. Telling people they're misunderstanding you and can't read isn't going to change that
>>342805949
Congratulations, you derailed a thread that was less than 50 posts away from autosage.
>>342805949
>gg 2ez
Literally 10 years old.
>>342805858
>Things that never happened: the post
>>342780271
okay but why doesn't my 2010 game look like that
>>342805102
it's not a meme, that's why, you stimming autist.
>>342804401
Sorry you can't handle the truth
>>342805916
you're mixing up at least three different anons. One asking what the OP means, another anon saying they don't get it either, and a third anon, the idiot that's been jacking the thread with its retro-bad attitude
>>342774098
>in a relationship and holding a steady job
SUCH CRIPPLING DEPRESSION OH MY GOD THE SUFFERING SHE HAD TO ENDURE
>>342805858
>map markers everywhere
>>342805858
It's easier to do simulation type stuff when you have fuck all for graphics, animation, physics, etc. Though devs should still try and do that kind of thing, but nobody makes anything besides AAA games and budgetless indie games anymore.
>>342806098
Those are indeed happened.
>>342806036
they aren't. you're actually misreading it. like, no hostility, no, argument, misreading it. the thing you are responding to was not at all contained within my wording. your reply directly indicates a misunderstanding. please try reading it again.
like, sincerely. legitimately. you are misreading people's words, and it's getting a little out of hand.
>>342806226
>Game length tutorials
>Difficulty slider only makes enemies into sponges
>On screen prompts for everything every minute with no option to turn it off
>>342805916
>>342805525
>>342804770
>>342803641
>>342803208
>>342802439
>>342802745
>>342801701
>>342801231
>>342800152
>>342798826
>>342800636
>tfw you will never be this tushy tarnished over people not enjoying old games as much as you do
Feels good not suffering from autism
>>342806226
that is truly the worst modern gaming trend along with quest compasses
>>342806248
sim and graphics run on different hardware, they don't compete for the same resources
Okay let's end this thread vros
>>342806083
NIce projecitng kid, you're clearly underage
>>342806124
not that guy but, all three of them are retarded.
>>342797042
I played an 18 year old game for the first time last year and enjoyed it more than anything else that came out that year.
>>342806124
sorry someone dared to interrupt your fart huffing retro-good circlejerk
>>342806320
we don't have autism just because you thinking everyone is a hipster wasn't a popular opinion.
>>342806098
>"I've never played Ultima 7 so it doesn't exist"
>>342806479
No one cares kid.
>>342805813
>tfw no cute spider gf
>>342806320
(you)-ing everybody and adding some lame ass reaction image doesn't help solidify your lack of a point at all.
>>342806405
I'm not the one using dudebro underage lingo.
>Claims I'm the one projecting
>>342806509
You definetely have autism because you can't handle different opinions and people calling you a hipster
>>342806576
dude. you said every single person who plays old games is a nostalgia or a hipster. and people are telling you that this is not the case. No one cares about what YOU have to say. an opinion thats shitting on people or video games will never be more important than opinions that things are fun and enjoyable. go back to fucking reddit if youre going to such an edgelord.
>>342806587
>>342806509
>everybody
It's just (You), autist.
>doesn't help solidify your lack of a point at all.
Thanks for admitting I don't lack a point. Good job.
Should I jerk off for the third time today or go to sleep?
>>342806993
Play a video game
>>342806825
>dude. you said every single person who plays old games is a nostalgia or a hipster.
Not only did I not say this, but it's ironic that you spent the entire thread accusing others of misreading and misintepretating, misunderstanding posts when you actually can't read other people's words.
>No one cares about what YOU have to say.
That's why you're still dedicated to trying to contradict what I have to say.
NO U though, that's a nice touch.
>>342806670
Yeah you're projecing kid. This is an 18+ board come back when you're not a underage dudebro .
>>342807210
Nice photoshop nerd.
>>342805991
Thanks anon, i am crying now
>>342807210
I bet all those other posts belong to the same anon.
>>342807271
is nerd supposed to constitute some sort of insult, too?
>>342776537
bethesda was ahead of it's time
>>342806405
do you post on /g/
>>342807165
Did you get your mom's permission to post that?
changing the goalposts: the thread
>>342807482
Your mom says you're not supposed to be on here. This is an adult-only website so you better get off before you get banned kiddo.
>>342807426
It is when you're a loser you permavirgin nerd.
i play new games only. if it's existed for any amount of time other than was just fucking released, it's worthless. people who play old video games are not gamers. they're just blind hipsters. they're no true scotsmans.
>>342807551
Enjoy your vacation faggot. ;^)
>>342807503
More like baiting nostalgiafags: the thread
I like how I can be complete and utter cancer in these threads and there are no reprocussions because only certaing games and companies have protected status on /v/.
>>342807629
haha you nerd geek dork! neener neener loser! your mom make that lunch? hardy har har! i wear cargo shorts at all times!
>>342807643
if your game was already released its already hipster shit
inonly play games in alpha and beta
>>342807646
You're in knowing violation of the rules, enjoy your ban kid.
>>342807692
>I like how I can be complete and utter cancer
I think that's all that needs to be read
>>342807770
I'm not the underage faggot breaking that rule. See you soon. ;^)
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