What's your opinion on indie gaming?
>>342713867
it's ok
>>342713867
there are good indie games and there are bad indie games.
video games are stupid either way though.
>>342713867
I love indie eroge
is that dfw?
>>342713931
This
I support the indie gaming scene.
Zoe Quinn rawks <3
It's a broad category.
Some is shit, some is good, most is bland and offers nothing worthy of making note of.
Average indie game is better than average AAA game
Good indie games are way better than good AAA games and bad indie games are way worse than bad AAA games
>>342714086
>Average indie game is better than average AAA game
..no?
For new games, most I play anymore out side of some big name titles (like Dark Souls 3) are pretty much all small time indie shit. TONS of good freeware little games out there to download an experience.
That said I fucking hate it how the phrasing "indie" games now often refers to shit like Gone Home and Fez. While I'm not saying they are not indie, they are, but there is such a huge spectrum of shit out there that also falls under indie. Every single thing out there that doesn't have publisher dollars to back it is. There are far more indie games and music out there then not.
The vast majority of them are pretentious fuckwads.
Though there are some humble ones who produce good shit.
>>342714198
I want to rape Nina girl
>>342714198
What'S with this?
I was browsing /v/ one day and saw a pic of Markplielepler and he had his hair like that and then I began to see more and more people with coloured hair like those two guys and even a guy at school had it (albeit in different colour).
Was it another faggot movement?
Terraria, Undertale, Rocket League, Deadbolt, Hyperlight Drifter and Hotline Miami are great
>>342714073
>Some is shit, some is good, most is bland and offers nothing worthy of making note of.
Like all of gaming or really all of entertainment media?
Gotcha.
You can judge them by their looks 90% of the time.
>does not appear to be a hipster
>also does not appear to a a Chad
>made a great game
There are some exceptions. Cities: Skylines is good, but the main developers were two Swedish women with pink hair.
It's alright
>>342713867
I'd like to make games, I can't make games, therefore my only option is to produce shit on early access
that's indie gaming for you
>>342714338
It's to stand out. To be a special snowflake.
>>342714232
They're all fucking pretentious that's why I just avoid indie like the plague.
I dont want to give those children money.
>>342714385
oh i know how to measure this
they put more effort into how they look than the game they made
>>342714086
There are a lot of good indie games, but the sheer amount of indie shovelware invalidates that statement.
7 out of 10 my top played games on steam are indie. good indie games are amazing
>>342714364
That was precisely the point, glad you eventually caught on though.
I hate the pretentious clique of hipsters thinking that whatever shit they are doing has any artistic value.
Thus said, "true" independent developers are responsible for some of the best games made in last five years like Underrail.
>>342713867
>Anyone working in the industry less than 20 years
>Enough of an """"""""expert""""""" to give a talk on any subject to do with coding, design, etc.
literally cancer
>>342714481
>nu-male
surprise surprise
>>342713867
The only way you can get away with shoving out a garbage game and living in an expensive city is if you have rich as fuck parents; 90% of "indie devs" are cunts and totally up themselves. If you know them by name they're probably a cunt.Edmund and Lucas Pope excepted
>>342714494
It's a good measurement.
Here's Yacht Club Games. Looks like a bunch of losers, but they aren't dying their hair and getting piercings everywhere.
Made one of the most universally loved indie games ever.
>>342714543
Even if you only work for 1 year, you are entitled to teach new blood something. They can be smart and filter your bullshit, or got kicked out of the competition.
>>342714589
>only 1 woman
>all white
>prolly not even transgender
They are not real indies.
indie games have the biggest potential for innovation andfun
sadly, most people with good game ideas aren't making games and rather shitpost on 4chan
>>342714589
fucking love yacht club and Shovel Knight.
Seriously these guys are what's right about indie gaming.
They also found work as third party developers for other games companies and still make time to support Shovel Knight on the side.
This is proper game development
>>342713867
indie devs seem like mostly tired ass people making games after their day jobs. You'll never hear from most of them. So its mostly working people trying to make money on the side, hard to shit on most indies
For some reason people with pink hair, or obvious/ over-simplified opinions get some attention right now.
>>342714759
>goddess
>>342714804
insecure male
indie dev here
don't worry guys I'll save gaming for you
I want my chefs fat and my game developers haggered!
Indie games can be great because they don't have the restrictions AAA companies place on their teams.
>>342714707
>1 woman
>it's an ayysian
EVERY.TIME
>>342714859
i saw this on /r/4chan too
god what an epic thread that was
>>342714338
Have you ever seen Invasiob of the Body Snatchers
>>342714914
what is /r/4chan
>>342713867
>Gone Home
>Lessons on efficiency
What the hell was there to optimize? Or do they mean "optimizing design" in which case I'm going to kill myself.
I love how you dumb shits can't focus on a single interesting topic without derailing with agenda. I think all of the hipster dingleberries look like circus clowns but the indie gaming scene has done a lot to contribute to pushing the industry creatively forward. But please, by all means focus on the elite few jackasses that make it to the tumblr blogs and dismiss everything else.
>>342714759
Depression quest was 8 years ago
>>342715028
Your mom
>>342714879
They just have restrictions placed by SJWs
>>342714731
They also set an example of using Kickstarter correctly, which fucking no one follows.
There were some delays, if I recall, but in the end product still met expectations, and they are continuing to fulfill the DLC goals. Can't even expect an Early Access game on Steam to be finished let alone that.
>>342715104
unless you make one yourself
get started nigger
>>342714589
>Looks like a bunch of losers,
I wanted to post that id Software picture of Romero & co., but I can't find it.
>>342713931
>video games are stupid either way though.
>Im gonna go on a video game forum and complain about video games TEEHEE
>>342715061
why are you surprised, this is all /v/ has been doing for years
>>342715176
>Im gonna go on a video game forum and complain about video games TEEHEE
/v/ in a nutshell
So what indie devs/teams do you consider good?
Pixel
Spiderweb Software
Yacht Club Games
Stygian Software
>>342715104
Indie just means game developers that aren't part of AAA studios, I don't see what that has in relation to sjws.
>>342714759
Why does this women look completely different every year?
It's zoe quinn, right?
>>342715104
They really don't though. That is more on the team if they wish to have SJW mandate in their creative process or not.
The truth of the matter is no matter what mandate you use you have to market your game to the proper group when making and funding it
>>342715104
>muh SJW boogeyman
>>342713867
AAA and "ideas guy indie" are two ends of a contemporary spectrum. There are extremely capable companies and extremely capable and motivated.
Its more about the mentality of either the individual or the company as a group, as opposed to its actual size. I want Introversion (early days of Uplink, not now unfortunately) bedroom developers, Pixel, Old Toady One just as much as I want hypothetically great big development studios (which I will not list because >opinions)
Phil fish and Brianna Wu annoy me just about as much as Cliffy B and Schafer and you could argue they all live very apart from one another in terms of position, funding, design philosophy and positions of morality. I literally could not give a SHIT if they make a good game, I will enjoy and buy it.
That has to be your prime motivation, because if you buy into the nonsense that video games are for anything else but personal enjoyment, then you risk a world where games are made devoid of joy, filled with whatever VERY IMPORTANT sentiment you apparently felt was VERY IMPORTANT: Art, morality, social justice or fucking whatever.
Just like enjoy game.
>>342715217
Ice Pick Lodge and Pixel only
>>342715167
this?
>>342715105
They used kickstarter the same way big names did, they proved there was an audience and then got outside funding. Or did you really think they made that AND the DLC on only 300k?
If I can't find a lot of pictures of the devs in social media, that's usually a good sign.
>>342715217
cave story is nice but pixel is kind of dead isn't he? not really working on any proper games anymore
lab zero, not sure if they count as indie
hopoo games
>>342715217
Relogic
>>342715215
>why are you surprised, this is all /v/ has been doing for years
I don't even know any more.
>>342715221
Most indie developers have drank the sjw kool aid.
>>342715240
>Why does this women look completely different every year?
deathly afraid of being seen as her true self
ie a boring sociopath
>>342714338
i think mark did it in honor of his close friend that an-hero'd. mark's a swell dude, but he's kinda simple. he's annoying because what he has to do is self deprecating
he knows it but he's gotta work with his strengths to make a living. he's endearing in a Forest Gump kinda way.
on the topic on indie games, i'd love to make my own game and stand out, but i don't think i'd waste my design talents on video games desu senpai. i'd rather use them for practical use out in the world.
since entertainment media panders to brain-dead retards, i don't think i could sleep at night if all my life's accomplishments amount to /v/ shitposting.
>>342714385
Posting my exception here. Don't both have pink hair, but the one on the left makes up for it.
It did make me lean back in my chair and go "Hmm..." to be quite honest lads, but they ended up making a good game free of any controversial feminist faggy shit.
>>342715273
Oh, and I fucking love that /v/ has had some really talented people here make their own stuff. Valhalla is fucking great and to see and hear it being worked on passionately by people who are probably going to end up in a mass grave is just gravy, but the main point is that the game is good. I wouldn't play a shit /v/ game just because someone from /v/ made it.
>>342715217
>Spiderweb Software
my nigga
Jeff is getting old though, I wonder how many more games he has in him
>>342713867
Indies should be leading the way for great games without the restraint of answering to big publishers or quotas to investors.
Instead we often get indie's answering to the restraint and quotas of social justice.
I know that doesn't describe every independent dev out there, but it feels like there is a weird stilt towards aiming towards that direction for brownie points from a community that can help push your game on these news sites
>>342714075
Goddamn it. I still miss Satoru.
>>342715323
Not every indie dev is zoe quinn.
>Most
Well maybe you should name a few if it's "most".
How many devs/indie games that you can name off the top of your head that's sjw?
>>342713867
>indie
At least get some actual programmers.
>You're not in an open relationship? Ugh
>>342713867
Just like AAA gaming, there's good and bad. However, at least these Frisco hipsters know to not price their walking sims and interactive experiences like AAA games
I kinda want to try making videogames, indie scene looks cool tbqh and I've been programming my whole life.
But is it absolutely required to do crazy shit with your hair? Don't really want to mess with my haircut.
>>342713867
I bet he can show me the quickest way to that ganja ganja
>>342714075
You can't make good games, if you are not a "gamer"
>>342714198
>dying hair pink to stand out
>everyone does it to stand out
I am confused.
>>342715323
>indie devs espouse an ideology that inhibits freedom of speech and expression with their art form
no wonder they're all creatively bankrupt clowns
You have to understand that ironic shitposting attracts morons who will take what you say for granted.
Video games are for children, so don't be surprised when you are surrounded by children. When this is the case, it's up to you to educate them instead of making them even dumber.
A child sees what you just implied -- "independent game development = SJW insanity" and that kid takes it for granted. He does not think, he just wants to fit in with the /v/ crowd. So what you just did is you've created a shitposter that will perpetuate the joke without knowing it's a joke. Next thing you know, independent game development is seen as synonymous with the incestual american SJW clique.
You can't just get together with some friends and create a game. If RPS reviews it positively, these dipshit kids will automatically hate you without even playing it because "those SJWs like it".
Just think before you post.
>>342715217
I like Hitbox, it'd be cool if they were actually doing something. SPIRE NEVER
>>342713867
The games could be fun if the "developers" would get their heads out of their asses. But, as they all seem to think they're all-important, that'll never happen.
So the only good "indie" games will come from Japan, where they treat their business AS a business and not as an entitlement.
>>342715550
>everyone
not you or ur mum :^)
>>342715496
It really doesn't bode well for you that even though you claim to have some programming background you are incapable of applying basic logic to your own easily-answered question.Of course its required, its like Nazis putting triangles on interred jews to classify their priority for the gas chamber
It's a perfect example of horseshoe theory.
The AAA games are mandated by the corporations while the Indie games are mandated by the loudest complainers.
Ironically enough, Indie games are made and catered to people who don't even like video games.
>>342715536
I think that's far more applicable for video game writers. You need to actually PLAY video games to understand how they flow and work structurally. It's why so many failed writers from other non-interactive medium suck at their jobs and why most coming from tabletop roleplaying are good at it.
>>342714198
Nina is the only one that can pass as a woman
>you will never code your game well enough to have the privilege to stand beside industry legends like Chris Avellone
>>342715464
>when you get in an heated argument with your barber
I hope they all fail, starve and die.
>>342715312
Doukutsu Monogatari, the creator of Cave Story has worked on a few titles and comes out with something every once in awhile. The thing is he works alone and so it's kind of slow going.
I know he just released Kero Blaster last year, and he has been hinting a possible sequel to Cave Story
This image sums indie game devs up really.
The Gone Home guy gives a speech at GDC and his advice to developers is
>spend lots of time on twitter
>buy your assets from the Unity store instead of making them yourself
>Do AS LITTLE work as possible (he seriously does say this).
>>342715578
>Skinnyghost
Fuck that whiny asshole.
Way to be that stereotypical DM that I never want.
Literally just diversity for the sake of diversity in all of his shitty runs
Meanwhile one man keeps churning away without drama or begging for money.
>>342714385
Doesn't always work
Zun made the best indie game series in history, and he is a 6"4' musclebound chad, and a high ranking member of the Omi alliance, fucking random whores every night
>>342715383
It's a very disturbing reality when I have had people like Nina Freeman basically shoved down my throat by the indie "media", but had never even heard about these two before.
>>342715667
Just go to a fucking video game con and hang around bethesda/obsidian/inxile/star war booth.
>>342715217
CreSpirit is kind of new to the scene with Rabi Ribi.
It's a pretty fun metroidvania style game and I hope they can come out with more pixel style games. I want to see an rpg and a megaman style platformer from them in the future
>>342715104
>You click No
>It turns into Yes
>>342715843GAY DWARVES
>>342715871
>basically shoved down my throat by the indie "media"
Have you never heard of the concept of not reading about things you dont care about?
>>342715667
I was surprised how short Avellone is, but I guess he makes up for it in sheer muscle mass.
>>342715672
kek
>>342715996
>those biceps
holy fuck
>>342715996
Is that MCA? Holy shit he's buffed.
>>342715706
GDC is a mixed bag, but all of the shit talks are by indies.
>>342715607
But they posted a screen shot of their new updated lighting in effect just last week.
It's getting worked on, just slow as balls
>>342715383
>women made city skylines
The shit driving AI is finally explained.
>>342715980
Do you not understand what exposure is? I don't necessarily go around googling her name every morning, but she has been a constant presence in most things relating to modern indie gaming, like it or not.
I still enjoy being in the loop about indie games, so crossing with content I don't particularly care for is a given.
>>342715652
well technically, gaider IS right from a purely coding standpoint because you can never do something that wasn't made by developers for you but story-wise he's really not suited to rpgs if that's his mentality. it's ironic chris avellone says what he says considering he made of the best storytelling heavy games ever.
Indie development is great and their are tons of tools to use for upcoming or broke studios/hobbyists/new devs like blender or unreal engine. I love the dev scene because I get real, honest-to-god actual advice on programming. It's also full of people not involved in key parts of development though, and those people fucking blow.
>>342715905
>single thighhigh
I didn't even know I wanted this.
>>342715706
It's actually pretty good advice considering the success Gone Home was. His advice isn't about making the best game possible or doing the best code, it's just how to do stuff efficiently. Why spend copious amounts of time on shit if you don't have to?
I mean Gone Home is shit but game development and game quality are very separate things. This talk isn't for you if you're just a customer buying games fyi.
Theres good games that just try to be fun, like Shovel Knight, Stardew, stuff like that, Then theres shit that tries to be progressive and just shits up everything, God that picture of the Gone Home faggots with there award makes me want to punch them in the face, yall know the one im talking about.
>>342716125
>but she has been a constant presence in most things relating to modern indie gaming
Literally all you have to do is not read any article where she is mentioned.
Thats all
>>342715706
Thats a guy?
Also jesus christ what a faggot that advice.
>>342716092
GDC is by far the best for listening to what actual industry veterans have to say.
>>342716264
indie ''''devs''''' don't want to struggle, but sure love to martyrize themselves.
>>342716249
Alright genius, explain to me how am I supposed to find out if an indie gaming article includes mentions to Nina Freemand without fucking reading it?
>>342716215
>Why spend copious amounts of time on shit if you don't have to
Doing that is not even par for the course.
>>342716209
Rabi Ribi is a great game if you like metroidvania style games, definitely recommend it. Hell it's on sale right now during the Steam Summer sale
>>342714198
I atill see Loss here.
What is she playing /v/?
>>342715706
I'm fairly sure you should Twitter if you want to keep your sanity intact and let your game speak for itself. Getting directly in touch with sites that might cover your game is better.
>>342716351
ctrl + f
>>342716389
Vile.
>>342716389
If I had to guess, Shes posting about how Nintendo is making fun of her in the new paper mario.
>>342716351
Reading the title, maybe?
Its one thing if the article is about her, and its another thing if the article mentions her
>>342716307
I wish he had more videos like that. It was kind of weird that he decided to do a presentation in China of all places.
>>342716389
the victim
>>342713867
What the fuck is that thing?
When indie developers aren't churning out these pixel trash heap of games with the quality of arts-and-crafts commitment my grandmother attends with her demented friends, they sometimes make big budget looking games that will never be developed and are in perpetual early access stage. Never in my life would I believe something so awful would be allowed to exist as early access game.
In indie community of game developers who actually sell a product, 5% of them actually make something worthwhile while the rest of them are perpetuating the mediocrity of vidya that is usually the job of the higher echelons of the industry.
I enjoyed two indie games, Banished and Age of Decadence out of few that I tried. I picked these two because these are games with actual gameplay, not visual novels or meme games. Though AoD can be played story mode style.
That said, I like that there is an army out there of indie game developers. It keeps certain individuals from monopolizing fan made content and every once in a while a gem is made.
>>342716389
She's playing that game where you can punch Anita Sarkeesian and talking about how triggered it makes her. However she is secretly imagining how turned on she is by it and she is slowly getting wet and will touch herself later because she wants to be the one in the game instead of Anita
>>342716389
nothing, she's a girl
>>342713867
>Lessons in efficiency
>Can beat Gone Home in a minute
>>342715536
They don't want to. These specific people who attend and hold these talks think gaming is an immature hobby, thus they do not want to be associated with gamers. Instead, they try to pretend that they are artists.
>>342716514
>>342714385
It's a fucking expensive game, though and that's the main problem with indie games.
>Listed on PSN as Metroidvania
Can they do that? Has the label of it as a subgenre transcended copyright?
>>342714338
They are the MC in their very own anime.
>>342716572
It's a classic case of most of something being shit, anon. People don't know about all the proper publisher-funded game that never make it past conceptual or vertical slice stage, but they're about just as numerous as shit indie games. We simply see them because investors are controlling the funding and if they don't like what they see it's over.
>>342715028
4chan for people to scared to go 4chan
>>342713867
It's like flea market: bunch of garbage with occasional gem.
>>342714210
"Indie" has pretty much become synonymous with the shit part of the indie industry.
Most people would not think of something like Grim Dawn or Dankest Dungeon when you tell them to think of an indie game.
>>342716865
>It's a fucking expensive game, though and that's the main problem with indie games.
How much does it cost? $15?
Considering the cost of a movie ticket is ~$10, and you get far fewer hours of entertainment out of that, Indie game prices really aren't out of line.
>>342714589
>Looks like a bunch of losers
Look like a bunch of average people actually. Maybe not on the upper spectrum but also no hideous basement trolls.
![275px-ZUNPlayDoujin[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rK3VUcp.jpg "275px-ZUNPlayDoujin[1].jpg")
>>342715845
wat
>>342715843
is Toady he a closet sjw?
I know he's not outspoken about it but he follow femfreq, zoe and a bunch of other degenerates on twitter
>>342717362
Zun is a sex machine, can't you tell by that pic?
>>342715845
>Japanese
>ever taller than 5'8
>>342715217
These two
>>342716897
it's funny you mention this, I was speaking with someone the other day and they were telling me something similar.
Now I'm gonna paraphrase it so I am sorry if it comes out a bit wrong
The shit disturbers, the ones that want to ruin everything for everyone else think they are the main character of everything.
However the truth is your only the main character of your own life, as far as the rest of the world is concerned we are all non-player characters, that includes the shit disturber.
Basically it means that at the end of the day no one is more important than anyone else, even if you like to think you are
>>342713867
>Lessons in efficiency
>A walking simulator without a single even remotely-complex system
Can't wait to hear what programming wisdom this guy can impart on me.
Yes yes Well done CIS white males, well done, However...
>>342715418
>Instead we often get indie's answering to the restraint and quotas of social justice.
I'd argue this is worse.
>>342715217
Not a single one of those is "indie" in the sense people perceive the word nowadays.
>>342717978
>No Spelunky
dun goofed
>>342717978
>no undertale
>>342717978
>trinity
>4 games
reeee
>>342717978
>trinity
>4 games
>>342713867
Why are they all so comically out of touch with reality? Is it just a San Francisco thing or do they really have it so good they need to invent problems to solve?
>>342718046
kys
Opinions on this faggot?
>>342717659
well maybe they should make a fun game first instead of this crawl slow shitfest where simply traversing a screen can take a few minutes
![panoramic[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jWKsZYX.jpg "panoramic[1].jpg")
>>342716059
MCA is the fucking man.
Even when surrounded by anime figures, he's oozing masculinity.
>>342718168
/v/ wants to have sex with him.
What is this expression supposed to convey?
>>342718168
Talented young fellow who can do other stuff than make a unique video game on his own.
Can't do anything but respect him.
>>342718168
aryan as fuck
>>342717978
>no underrail
>no pathologic
>la shit
>binding of boredom
>>342713867
undertale and smash flash are the only good indie games
>>342718292
>when you judge people based on their creeds/way of life
>>342718106
damn Vavra is savage
>>342718382
He just tells it like it is. I wish more people would be like that guy. I have no idea why there are so many beta submissive people out there nowadays.
>>342718292
that's the "i believe everyone is entitled to their forms of expressionism and freedom of self, as long as you make sure it doesn't hurt MY effeminate feelings!" face
>>342718371
>no FTL
>no The Desolate Hope
>no Freedom Planet
>no Skullgirls
>>342718272
A lot of Obsidian developers seemed to be fit for some reason, probably because they're in California. Sawyer used to be fit before he got into biking and shit. Now not so much when they started hiring for obvious tax relief quotas.
>>342718292
They fish mouth because they're always taking the bait
>>342718380
>>342718494
literally the same thing /v/ does
>>342718471
I don't know why people are so submissive these days either. There's a weird stigma of wanting to be the victim or wanting to fight for a cause of some sort these days.
I do agree we need more people like Savage, I have been doing my best with what I have available to me, but sometimes you have to hold back as to not lose your job too
>>342718701
if you take anything posted on this website entirely seriously, you should not be here
>>342718575
In what world is that "fit"? He looks like a typical game developer.
>>342718701
What do you mean? People here don't usually pretend to be tolerant.
>>342718728
It's easier than fighting to simply lay down and cry.
That's the mentality behind participation trophies. You get an award for simply showing up and putting no effoty.
>>342718782
To fat fucks skinny is fit
>>342718680
A mighty kek
>>342718194
>exaggerting that much
Even then, try this thing called getting good.
>>342718782
pretty sure he meant fat
>roguey alert
>>342718802
I mean judging people on their beliefs, ways of life, etc
I don't know a lot about the scene and who any of these main personas are but I know I miss having those game "heroes" we used to look up to before everything just turned to putrid homogenized shit.
Romero, Cain, Carmack, Lord British, Yuji Horii...
Some thing's missing nowadays.
>>342718292
The realization that he has no real friends.
>>342718380
Why would it be wrong to judge someone on that?
>>342718865
Okay, so like every living human being? The point is SJWs pretend to be tolerant and open-minded of everything, until they aren't.
>>342718838
>That's the mentality behind participation trophies. You get an award for simply showing up and putting no effoty.
I love my cousin, she hate's that mentality and reminds her kids constantly when they get participation trophies that they can do way better and those mean nothing
>>342715845
>6"4' musclebound jap
I'd like to see that, especially in person.
>>342718898
It isn't.
Simply pointing out his hypocrisy.
He's shunning people who hold a certain belief or taste, while promoting the idea that people's beliefs, lifestyle and taste should be respected.
>>342718898
>Why would it be wrong to judge someone on that?
Because nothing matters anymore in society,everybody should be free to be as deranged as he/she/it/xir/zum/zom wants according to liberals.
>>342718106
vavra is annoying because of the whole BASED thing he decided to play up, but is absolutely right. no one is entitled to anything. you can't cut it in the industry? tough, seek employment elsewhere.
>>342715843
not all heroes wear capes Anon, but I do expect him to own a dungeon master cloak.
>>342719048
>>342719113
didn't catch the sarcasm then
>>342713867
my opinion is that there are more bad indie games than good indie games
>>342719113
why do these people all look exactly the same
some kind of herd camouflage?
>>342718575
>>342718782
Sawyer is a vegan so there's no way he was ever fit.
>>342713867
Why the fuck is he wearing dreadlocks?
Racist much?
>>342719341
"Shitty SJW indie devs" is apparently a subculture now with heavy hipster overlap.
Indie games are a good thing and are likely going to be the only place to find real games without political agendas in the coming age.
"""""INDIE GAME STUDIOS""""""" though are just comedies. Tumblr tier leftists going against daddy's and society's wills to do what they want and bring their tumblr lifestyles to the gaming populace. Colored hair, thick-rimmed glasses, offensive clothing and hair styles, you know the type. They all come from upper class families but want to be douches and hippies and this is their means of supporting themselves and playing to their "unappreciated creative strengths".
>>342718570
>The Desolate Hope
>>342718865
everyone is judgmental of someone or something else, /v/ is more than open with being what it is and accepts itself, shit and all
The fact that these groups pretend to be acceptable for all groups and peoples but then indicate they are not accepting of other groups that don't think like they do, unless your perceived to be oppressed is already hypocritical. They also perceive that people are oppressed just for being born a certain color and/or gender and they immediately request quotas, which implys that people are somehow lesser and need help just because they were born a certain way
Sturgeon's Revelation
>>342714075
>TFW making an indie game
>MFW I'm making a game that I want to play for fun to challenge myself
why make a game that you wouldn't find to be fun yourself? If you think its fun, others might find it fun.
>>342715550
They want to be rebels, like everyone else.
>>342719532
Looking at this guy makes me feel like a douchebag for having a fade.
>>342716514
that's a funny joke
>>342715705
Didn't he work with someone on Kero Blaster tho?
I don't respect indie devs who don't roll their own solutions
that's the extent of it I suppose
>tfw you will never mansplain her in bed
why even live
>>342719629
>why make a game that you wouldn't find to be fun yourself?
Money, fame, attention.
>>342719837
>I don't respect indie devs who don't roll their own solutions
You mean making their own game engine? That's pretty fucking stupid in most cases.
>>342716209
Just got the artbook. Pretty cool stuff here.
>>342713867
99% of indie games are shit
99% of AAA games are shit
most of everything is shit really
>>342718852
no amount of getting good will make that crawl slow shitfest faster
>>342719863
>goth marge simpson
No thx
>>342718106
>american indie devs
>dye their hair pink and go to starbucks to talk about being queer or sme shit
>eastern european dev
>does operator shit on the woods on the weekends for fun
>>342715217
Whoever made Barkley, I don't even know if they have an official name
>>342720026
You can use game maker or whatever you want, but I won't respect you for it, and I probably won't try your game.
>>342720321
D you specifically look up what engine a game was made in before you buy it?
>>342718292
The pleasure of his wife being cummed inside by someone else.
>>342720538
If it's indie, yeah
>hate pretentious indie devs with a passion
>hate how the industry constantly sucks indie cock
>the entire vidya indistry was indie at one point though
I guess I'm indifferent.
>>342720628
You've got some messed up priorities.I do the same though, for other reasons.
>>342719864
The money part sounds nice, but you would think the free market would encourage people to make a good product that people would like to buy.
>AAA games now care more about making games than indie devs
fug
>>342719864
This and the need to validate that liberal arts degree you thought would magically turn you into the second coming of Martin Luther King.
>>342718292
>tfw you're friends with someone and find out they've somehow made it over 20 years without knowing the difference between your and you're
>>342719629
I suppose you could also be motivated by desire to push the medium forward or something, but there's a razor thin line between that and being pretentious.
>>342720759
I just don't want to support that sort of mediocrity, I'm sure there's tons of people willing to buy the games in my place anyway. That's also why I've donated to Tarn Adams for years.
>>342720830
But he used it right.
>>342718881
Anon, there thousands of game devs now. Only the egotistical and chaotic stand out.
New heroes are out there, but they're in the shadows. It's your job to find them and bring them into the light.
>>342720242
To be fair Vavra all shipped two proper games in his career so he knows how the process works, except now he has more freedom to tweak it to his liking. Just like those three ex-Bioware guys who made Banner Saga, for example. Someone with work ethic and experience is different from someone with a fresh liberal arts degree and not a single day of work in the life.
>can code, a lot of experience with multiple engines, languages, etc.
>can't write a semidecent story
what do I do senpai? read books/watch movies?
>>342717978
Nuclear Throne is Isaac but way better in every way
>>342713867
most are shit with the occasional good game like shovel knight
>>342718168
Glorious aryan game-making ass-kicking badass
>>342721064
Don't do a story-heavy game? It's no rocket science and most games aren't story-heavy.
>>342718292
Is that a hipster Abe Lincoln?
>>342718168
So wait, he made LISA all on his own? Soundtrack included? Damn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pIHSX_E8Tw
