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>unlock the most powerful weapon by completing the game What
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>unlock the most powerful weapon by completing the game

What the fuck is the point? So I can mindlessly kill trash mobs for no reason? Why the FUCK do games do this?

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
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You get that before completing the game though.

What you should have posted was the FD Mask.
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>>342685703
It's a consolation prize for anyone who couldn't get fierce deity mask.
Theoretically it comes in handy during moon twinmold dungeon.
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There are a few games that let you get (one of) the best sword(s) in the game early on.

They're always good.
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>>342685703
>not using the gilded sword for majora's first form, the fairy sword for his second, and saving the deity mask for his last form
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>>342685703
Rewarding.
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Having this as a C item made it awkward to use.
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I agree, I dislike it as well. On the flipside, the games not so fun if you get the most powerful weapon early on.
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>>342685703
Looks like shit too. And it can't even be mapped to the B button.
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>defeat boss
>get a conditional drop without knowing about it
>can now buy the strongest weapon in its category
>it costs more gold than the total gold I got by playing up to that point
>Now it sits on top of the list, greyed out and taunting me
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>get best weapon before game ends
>lose interest because the mystery of whats out there is over
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>have a game with great atmosphere and an interesting time mechanic
>all the bosses are mediocre
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>>342687060
>spend hours grinding out the money for it
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>unlock a powerful demon form just to fight the final boss
>no option at all to use it in NG+ so you can actually spend more time with it

Fucking Onimusha 2.
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>>342690024
Fucking nightcaster did this too.

You finally get the most powerful magics and all you can do is the final boss and its over. No fun allowed
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>>342690024
Just sometimes I want to be an overpowered piece of shit stomping everything.
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>>342685703
getting the best weapon in the game long before the game ends isn't exactly satisfying either

so what's the ideal middle ground, anons?

>story related "best sword" scales with you/does something special
>you get the best gear throughout the main game, but there's a lengthy post game challenge
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>>342690281
>Get really cool effect/debuff.
>Only works on garbage.

I tried World of Warcraft, got some trinket that releases an AoE cloud of gas. 45 damage per second and 15 minute cooldown? That's pretty garbage... Wait holy shit, this shit lasts 45 seconds? Okay that's actually pretty good. Gotta save it for a big enemy.

>Use it on a boss.
>IMMUNE
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>>342685830
>ROMhack that lets you use FD anywhere
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>>342690413
I think the post game challenge or new game + is the best route.

Making it so you utterly shit all over the final boss robs the finale of the game of any tension.
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>>342691182
I know exactly what item you're talking about. It was an item from the emerald dragon from Sunken Temple. That instance was long as fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Then they ruined it with an 'update'....
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>>342685703
>70% of rewards in the game are shitty collectables which grants you god mode on NG+ if you collect them all
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>>342685703
I think you're confused OP.
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>>342691229
>FD mask makes the world and everything in it manlet mode.

Seriously he's huge.
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>>342691493
I replayed Okami like 6 or 7 times.

It was great.
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>>342691506
Yeah, I was just wondering if you could probably go and get the fairy sword without completing any of the dungeons first.
You just gotta loot them for their items though.
Kind of like what I do with LttP and getting the tempered sword before getting any crystals.
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>>342691229
>Remiving all challenge from the game

Whats the point
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>>342691459
Something like that. For a game that's like 90% PvE (99% if you're not on a PvP server), Blizzard sure likes to balance towards the AI like it's a zero sum game or something.

See also: nerfing every size-increasing buff into the floor and making everything not stack.
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What is the lore of the Fierce Deity?

Is there any?
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>>342691506
The Great Fairy sword can take down Majora faster than Fierce Deity Link, it's fucking hilarious how much it breaks the game.
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>>342691953
It's a secret to everyone.
Aoununa says the fact that you have to trade all the masks away is more than just metaphorical and the fierce deity mask is literally all the masks and all the hopes and dreams and souls of the citizens of termina fused into one.
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>>342685703
If you got it before the endgame it would have been too broken. It's just a cool bonus.
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>find/unlock the best weapon at the end of the game
>there's no NG+
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO THIS

R E T A R D E D
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>>342691506
>>342691760
FD Link more in lore.
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>Reward for beating optional superboss is superweapon
>There aren't any other superbosses/ng+
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>>342691953

He's the villain.
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>>342692368
>reward for beating optional superboss is a new ending
>it's hardly different from the original
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>>342691953
His mask is either an actual ancient god that got sealed away, or something like the embodiment of the inhabitants of Termina's wrathful feelings. In Japanese the name of the mask "Oni" refers to both a demon, and a tag metaphor that doesn't translate to English.

The Child wearing Majora's Mask, as well as the mask description, implies that the spirit in the mask is more evil than Majora's Mask.

Unless we get a direct sequel to MM we will probably never know any more than that.
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>>342691760
>HW didn't make him a giant
Fuck attention to detail, right?
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>>342690024
Onimusha does this every game, a real bummer.
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This is kind of why Super Sonic Colors/Generations/Lost World has pissed me off. You unlock him when you've done pretty much everything else in the game. Having him is pointless because there's no game left.

In the old Sonic games you tried to unlock Super mid-way through so you had it for the rest of your playthrough.
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>>342692054
So the deitys/gods don't make the world so much as the kindness of others does. The people's hope is the fiercest deity of all.
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>>342692431
>Could this be as bad as majoras mask
>Well fuck kid, try it on and tell us!
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But that's just a theory
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Because its a reward? You're meant to use the Fairy sword on Majora if you didn't bother collecting the masks.

It makes the fight a lot easier, its the middle tier reward if you don't feel like just equipping Fierce Diety and hitting the win button.
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>>342692431
>It's a "being evil makes the game far easier but tries to make you feel like its morally wrong" episode
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>>342685703
>Play all the dungeons
>Get the Great Fairy's Sword
>Use the Great Fairy's Sword while attempting to gather every mask and heart piece of the game
>Unless you've been using a guide this should be the majority of the game
It's hardly the end bud.
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>>342692634
He's already obscenely powerful, I guess they didn't want to buff his range even more than it already increases.
I'm still upset that they give him an oversized kokiri sword instead of the fairy sword.
Like an endgame loadout.
I guess he'd have to have a sword and shield set to contrast.
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>>342686774
I'm really grateful that the 3DS version simply makes it one of the letter buttons. It's much less awkward.
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>>342692582
I like how the manga handled it. When Link put that mask on and kicked Majora's ass he looked really cool, especially when Majora tried to get up and Link just shot it a look that pretty much said he'd make him suffer if he didn't die right now.

Then it ended with him leaving and actually saying Let's go find Navi!

Everyone whose played Twilight Princess should know how that ended up for him the poor lad.
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>did literally everything im majoras mask except get this because i figured it was nothing good just like the other 3 times i gathered all the fairies

fucking hell
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>>342692941
This. Your first time playing the game you aren't going to collect everything in order and be mostly done by the time you clear Stone Tower.
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>>342693069

The thing I really hated about the manga is how they made the Mask Salesman outright evil.
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>>342691459
I used to sit in iron forge with that item and spam /fart whenever I used the item.
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>That face when he says "I don't think the Interlopers made Majora's Mask, I think all the hints and similarities in Twilight Princess are just all coincidences."
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>>342692761
>not just going it without Chateau Romani and maining the Kokiri Sword
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>>342685703

>Best weapon in the game drops from the hardest enemy in the game
>Enemy is so hard if you can beat it you can beat anything in the game without even trying
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>>342685703
>can get the canon most powerful weapon every created at the start of the game
>will biring you sweet victory and many one shots
>but first you have to admit that you're a huge piece of shit who missed the entire point of being chosen as a new hero
>you're almost explicitly told that you won't get a good ending
>when you one shot the final boss, the douche who gave it to you comes by to feed off the glory you tried to cheese your way to
>can't even choose new game + because you didn't really beat the game
Video games will never, ever do this again.
And none of you underage faggots will know what it is from.
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>>342691229
> Exploiting a bug on actual cartridge to use FD and giants mask everywhere
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>>342693192
He does seem somewhat disappointed when he gets the mask back in the real ending.
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>Most powerful weapons in the game are rare drops from enemies.
>If you actually kill enough enemies to find them you will be so overleveled you don't need the weapons anyway.
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>>342693435
Shut up old man
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>Have to beat every one of the strongest monsters in the game to get it
>It's not even that powerful to begin with, just has a nice gimmick

I don't even know what the fuck were they thinking. At least you can use it to hunt trohpy game monsters
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>>342693437
I only know of the "fuck around in termina field's pond as zora link to become FD Link" deal, what's Giant's Mask Link look outside Twinmold's room
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>>342693009
To each his own. I just want them to put a little more effort into certain things. We know they can do it, looking at other elements of the game. Y. Link should be at least the same height as Agitha, or taller than what he is. His model in Majora is notably taller.
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>>342693502
Huh, I just assumed he was glad the ancient evil within was quelled so now he gets to enjoy his cool mask without the risk of ending the world.
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>>342685703
>finish xenoblade
>no harder difficulty on new game +
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>>342693069
>TFW Twilight Princess revealed Navi went into the secret Temple of Time dungeon

>TFW Link went on at least one entire adventure for nothing
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>>342693502

What?

No he doesn't.

He gives a big speech about how you helped everyone, and about meetings and partings, which ties into Link looking for Navi.
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>>342693549
I was about to post that

>unlock the ultra-powerful sword by beating ALL of the superbosses that it could possibly be useful against

If the Zodiac version didn't have Trial Mode, Loto's Sword would be completely useless.
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>Fierce detiy is a powerful being
>in game is adult links model, voice, and animations from OOT

For some reason I liked that.
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>>342693581
Well, we all know they made it adult link sized specifically so they could also make it a skin for adult link.
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>>342693435
soul nomad?
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>>342693682
Read the dialogue when he actually gets the mask back. He's definitely not overjoyed, it's more of a thoughtful/wistful pondering of it.
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>best weapon for main character is a rare drop from an enemy you may never see ever
>it's like 1-2 rooms from the final boss
>1/126 drop rate
>boss is easy anyways
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>Boss
>Thinking about using items
>End up not using it because i might need it later
>Final boss get killed
>I still had those items in my bag
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>>342693676
This picture should end with him zooming in on the castle and saying "so that's what he's up to!"
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>>342693875
He says "Well, now I finally have it back".

Which isn't ecstatic or anything but he was always a weirdo
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>>342694135
I got over that by just using the fucking things. Like, its hard to start doing it at first, but once it clicks that unless you use them, you'll NEVER use them, it gets a lot easier.
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>>342693502
"So the evil has left the Mask,"

Or something like that, I believe he liked having the thing for keepsake value but knew it was dangerous in the wrong hands. Like some obsessive collector.
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>>342691229
>3DS remake has super easy FD anywhere bug
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>>342693676
No it didn't. We honestly don't know why Navi just suddenly up and left Link. All we have a theories because the creators don't give a single fuck. Miyamoto hates story and has said and proven that many a time in projects he's been involved in. Perhaps if you pester them enough they'll release an official video like the details of Bowser Jr.'s mother.
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>>342694417
How do you trigger it?
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>get the best weapon according to the lore, after you beat the game
>current weapon is still stronger

tip kej
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>>342694501
You open up your web browser and go to http://google.com
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>>342693531
It was like that looking for the sword in Earthbound, too. So fucking dumb.
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>>342693562
>>342693437
>giants mask everywhere
Bullshit. Giant's mask only works in Twinmold's room because it doesn't actually make Link bigger. It transports you to a different room with smaller twinmolds.
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>>342694550
>the stronger weapon you get is from another world/timeline so technically the plot sword is still the best weapon in its setting
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>>342693875

I guess.

The most I could see was he was curious if Link could actually save the world, and he was merely an observer in all of this.

If worst came to worst, he'd just leave.

If he really was behind it, and intentionally let Skull Kid have the mask, I can't really see him as doing that for "bad" reasons, he might have been testing the people of Termina's happiness or something. At the very worst he may be some kind of cruel demigod, I can't see him as outright evil, like the manga makes it seem like he's just like Majora, a childish man who wants to do terrible things for fun.
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>>342694501
Have usable item on 'c button' (forgot actual prompt), go to first person mode, go to inventory, replace usable item with FD mask, then equip it as you exit first person mode.
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>>342685703
>Most powerful weapon in the game is unlocked by not opening certain chests through the game.
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>>342693069
>tfw havent played a LoZ game since windwaker
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>>342694406
So purging the mask was basically Link damaging an extremely rare collector's item to him, even though it was pretty much necessary for him to get it back. Makes sense.

>>342694870
I don't think he's evil like the comic either, he's just a suspicious character in general.
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>>342695038
Is there even any way you could possibly know that without a guide?
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>>342695038

They removed that from the Zodiac version for a reason, you shouldn't be forced to use a guide to get a weapon
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>>342691953
All the masks contain their owners' emotions. Like the rooster mask contains all the love of that guy for the chickens and the desire to protect them and shit.
The japanese name for the fierce deity is some japanese angry spirit that haunts people because of his emotions.
You trade all the masks for a super mask that contains all the emotions of the people of Termina

It's actual fact I believe, there was a pic with the japanese lore and it was more precise than in english
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>>342693549
What's the gimmick?
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>>342689490
Not if my total gold collected up to that point is barely half off the weapons price.

>>342693009
>I'm still upset that they give him an oversized kokiri sword instead of the fairy sword.

Yeah, that annoyed me too.
They were kinda lazy with Young Link/Fierce Deity.
Do the weapon upgrades even change anything on either models?
I don't think it's really about balance (it's a fucking musou) but because they just messed with Links model.
I mean, they even just sped and pitched up Links voice lines for Young Link
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>>342693549
>>342693712
>>342695353
Isn't the actual powerful weapon obtainable through RNG bullshit by running up and down in a room?
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>>342695971

The Zodiac Spear the best weapon in the base version of the game, but there were only 2 ways of getting it. One was avoiding 4 specific chests and going to the Necrohol to grab it.
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>>342695229
>Zodiac version

Wait, what game other than Chrono Trigger does that?
Or was the CT thing a bit different, as in you can get better items by opening chests at a later point in the game.
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>>342695793
It's the mask that's his weapon so it's the helix sword that changes.
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>>342696236
The Chrono Trigger thing was that you had to activate the chest in the past, say no to the prompt to open it, and then open it in the future.
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What do you think are the best kind of rewards/bonuses for 100% completions?
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>>342696474
the hardest fucking level of the series
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I like how dream team and paper jam both give you an obscenely overpowered item for completing all the achievements, but the achievements especially for paper jam are so comprehensive you have to do literally everything there is to do first anyway
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>>342685703
>can get the strongest weapon in the game the moment you can ride airships
>only a couple hours in
>its in an invisible chest
>chest only spawns 1/100 times you enter the area
>4/5 chance the chest has money, 1/5 that its an item
>1/20 chance that item is the bow
>the bow is fucking invisible too
>your character looks like a goof when pulling back the invisible bowstring
>do like 15x the damage of your next best party member if you get one as soon as possible
It really does trivialize the game, but its fun to play with if you've already played the game before.
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>>342693435
What game was it? Sounds cool
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>>342696882
It's things like this that make me wish the internet wasn't so damn efficient at sharing game knowledge.

Imagine finding this on your own and being talked about in "that kid" stories for years and nobody else ever finds it
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>>342696603
that fucking piece of shit level
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>>342696603
Challenging bonus worlds have always been the best. DKC2/3/TF, 3DL/W, all of those games had awesome post-game content. I think a post-game with a good mix of really challenging levels and "have fun and dick around" themed/gimmick levels are the best kinds of post-games.
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>>342696474
Valkyrie Profile
>Unlock post-game level at the title screen
>It's a balls to the walls crazy level with retarded XP
>Unlock OP characters that were main NPCs in the game
>Get weapons hundred times more powerful than the game
>Every normal enemy is a boss from the game
>Secret random silly encounter is hamsters that are the hardest enemy in the game
>Fight ultimate bosses that are cameos of other IPs of the devs
>To beat them you have to exploit the game to be invincible anyway, spamming auto-rez, as 2 or 3 members of your party will die every turn
>Every time you beat that dungeon you get a little message from the devs, 10 times
>The 10th time you get the ultimate sword of bullshit, that's completely useless but at this point you don't really care anymore

tl;dr : the best rewards are allowing crazyness that completely breaks the game
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>>342697161
beating that level was similar to the roughest sex of my life. Fucking insane and immensly satifsying.

same amount of bruises afterwards too
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>>342697162
I love champion's road for the challenge, but the flying goal post level in the post-game for 3D World is among my favorite levels.
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>>342696882
on PC I just used some tool one guy threw together to gave everyone those invisible super weapons. Then I turned on gambits and speed mode. It was retarded but fun to watch
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>>342697302
what does sex feel like anon
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>>342697468
bags of salty milk and coins
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>>342691760
I was astonished about how easy it was to kill Majoras with FD mask, was it really necessary making him that fucking strong?
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>>342697468
I've never really had good sex. I've never been able to reach orgasm naturally and honestly am kind of concerned about it. I think it might just be performance anxiety.
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>>342685830
Fierce Deity is designed to let you steamroll through the Majora fight effortlessly, it's not really the same shit.
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>>342685830
Even thats still a stretch
FD was super fuckin rewarding as the end result of completing almost everything the game had to offer.
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>>342691841
Don't try to reason with hackfags.
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>>342697375
>Playing that level with my brother as Peach and Toad
Gotta go FAST
3DL was an awkwardly fun game to 100%; I played through the game collecting every star (or were they star coins?) and getting all the gold flags, then I find out there's all the bonus worlds and play all those... Then I do it all again as Luigi. The regular worlds were easy as fuck, and the game's difficulty only started to catch up around bonus world 2 or 3, it was fun but some of the levels really sucked the fun out of it. Either way, I 100% (or 400%?) the game and returned it to my brother. 3D World on the other hand was a fun ride from start to finish, even with it's harder levels. That's one of the best co-op games I've ever played.
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>>342686401
"Behold the power of my beautiful mothafuckin sword, bathe in its brilliance corrupted beasts."
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>>342697893
I've never understood all the dislike for 3D World on here. Even single player it's a really fun game, co-op is ridiculously fun even with just one other person.
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>>342698078
Nobody here dislikes 3D World. The only people who shit on 3D World don't own a Wii U.
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>>342685830
>Fierce Deity in Majora's Mask is boss (and fishing :^)) only without using glitches
>Fierce Deity in Hyrule Warriors is tied to the focus meter

Why can't they just let me cut loose and completely wreck shit as a ferocious god without having to jump through hoops?
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>>342685703
I thibk FFVI handled Ultima Weapon the best. You get it kind of early on, but it doesn't become silly strong till later.

The only reason it gets strong is because the player does.
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>>342691953
There is a manga that has a backstory about it. You can accept it or not
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>>342692431
funny thing is when you get the mask from the majora kid he said you play the bad guy role
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>>342698235
I see people posting about "when are we gonna get the REAL 3D mario" constantly. I don't think it's entirely shitposters.
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>>342694475
>Bowser Jr.'s mother
Peach. It's literally Peach. See, they obviously thought it would be funny since Mario's a plumber and thinking upon the whole "plumber fixes lady's "pipes" porn scenario, but instead of Mare-rio doing the fixing it's actually Bowser doing the plumbing.
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>>342698078
>Two player for fun cooperative gameplay with competitive aspects thrown in
>Three if you want the crown fighting to be constant
>Four for absolute chaos
3DW haters just hate fun.
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>>342697468
Sex is kinda like a pizza.
When it's good, it's really good.
When it's not that good, it's still pretty good.

When it's horrible, you don't want to even think about it for a year or two.
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>>342698446
Hating 3D World and wanting another 3D Mario in the same vein as 64 and Sunshine are two entirely different things.
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>>342698787
No matter what people say, it IS the mainline mario platformer for the Wii U. It is, in-fact, THE 3D Mario for Wii U.
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>>342693502
I don't know, wouldn't YOU be disappointed if you had this awesome evil super mask and it got stolen, and when it's returned to you it's just a mask?
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>>342698692
>>342697468
Bullshit. Sex is overrated, doesn't even feel as good as your hand. Never again.
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>>342699984
so...this is the power of 2d...
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>>342685703
Zelda obviously bad example, but it works for games with new game +
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>>342693531
Fucking Golden Sun 1 letting me grind gay apes in front of the last dungeon
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>>342694842
you stay the same size but you're still wearing it
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>>342690024
That's how the new Shadow Warrior game was. At the end of the game you unlock a mode where you can fire tons of shockwaves out of your sword but you only get to use it on a wave of some shitty small enemies before having it taken away. Can't even use it in NG+, shit is stupid.
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>>342685703
>unlock the most powerful weapon by completing the game, then picking the asshole choice
>DLC comes out later which adds more content, guts the weapon you killed your sister for, then lets people who didn't kill their sister get an even better weapon
Evilfags BTFO
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>>342700681
>he doesn't know how to force an item drop in Golden Sun
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>>342693581
>you wou
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>>342697468
Your hand feels better, but you won't get the experience of holding another and feeling her warmth. That's what makes sex good.
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>>342702228
there was one time I was seeing a girl, we had sex and her shitty blinds bar fell off and hit my head. She started apologizing and saying sorry and hugging me.

I never had a harder fucking boner in my life.
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>>342694475

That's simple. Babies in the Mario Universe are given via stork. The storks are massive fuckups, as shown every time they make an appearance in a game. Since Peach is constantly with Bowser, they assumed Bowser and Peach were together - hence a baby.
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>>342702534
>Massive fuckups

New Island is not anon. Fuck everything.
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>>342698274
withthe right setups it was really easy to keep your focus meter up and spend the majority of the map as FD
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>>342702534

Which is why Peach goes "I'm your mother?" rather than outright denying the possibility that, y'know, she could have given birth to a turtle monster.
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>>342695038
Zodiac Spear had a chest that it spawned from with a stupid low rate even if you did open other chests that stopped its normal spawn from happening
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>>342685703
>get treasure hunt clues for a treasure throughout game
>at the end of the hunt it shows you where to find the best item for mage characters because of how much mana you can get out of it
>if you look up a guide of where it is early it's there but can't be upgraded
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>>342686971
I don't see anything wrong with locking the weapon behind incredibly difficult and/or time consuming side content that you can complete from fairly early in the game if you really want to, though. Offering it to you only at the end of the game is useless and pointless.
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>>342685703
i wouldn't even be salty about shit like this if they then offered exciting, optional post-game challenges that all but require this new otherwise useless uberweapon.
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>>342694842
WOT RINGS U GOT BITHC
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>>342695353
80% combo rate
Auto-faith and Auto-bravery
Slow as molasses ATB time though.
You can try to offset it with both Haste and Berserk.
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>>342685703
still better than
>get the ultimate weapon near the end of the game
>can't even use it for the final boss

fuck you prince of persia T2T
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>>342697640
Me too. I can cum if I'm being selfish and going for a speedrun but if I'm fucking for longer than 10 minutes its just not gonna happen
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>>342702667
Because everyone in the Mushroom Kingdom likely believes in the storks, so she just believed that the stork gave Bowser Jr. to Bowser and it was their child most likely
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>Get powers periodically throughout the game
>Get a new set of powers from the Final Boss
>Final Boss is essentially a tutorial because of this
>New powers aren't anywhere as interesting as the others and only useful for clearing up side activities you might not have done

Fucking Concrete was made to be so important then just a shittier version of Video and Smoke. Goddamn Second Son
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>>342691953
>>342698401
According to the manga the fierce deity was the one who was finally able to kill Majora after putting it to sleep, a powerful magical beast and used the body parts do make majoras mask (or an armor?) if I recall correctly. Link is kind of related to this person, being him reincarnated or whatever. He is in Termina to pay for killing Majora.
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>>342697804
Except you can only use it for boss fights for no reason. Even in the remake for some reason
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>>342694014
Oh i know what you are talking about, don't forget
>player's guide says it is from the wrong monsterGutsy Bat is pure bull shit to get.
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>>342687060
This always happens in EO. It was especially bad with the wyvern in the remakes, he could be cheesed with binds at a low level, and if you bind his legs you get the best spear in the game
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>>342696603
Unlocking it was way harder since it was tedious and boring as shit.
Also a very bad example of bonus worlds/stages.


Fuck SM3DW
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>>342698452
>he thinks the MP is meant to be cooperative

>>342698235
I have that piece of shit and it's pretty boring.
I also fell for fanboys around here.
>Guys this game is so fucking hard later on
>no, seriously though, the bowser world really is hard

Then it was the bonus worlds which then turned into Champion's Road only.
It's a good level but overall I think 3D World is not that good.

Also for some reason people agree that 3D Land wasn't that good but I think they're pretty much alike
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Yu-Gi-Oh! The Sacred Cards did this. The only God card you really get to use is Obelisk the Tormentor. You get Slifer after beating Yugi but at that point there's only 1 duel left in the game and you get the other God card, Ra, after winning the final duel. Once you beat the game you are forced to give all 3 god cards to an NPC and the game just ends, there is no way to continue after the credits.
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>>342697584

it was supposed to be symbolic, majora says you are the bad guy when you wear it, meaning you become the final boss to majora, final bosses are known to have bullshit mechanics to offset their simplistic AI, so you become OP as fuck
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>>342693581
Young Link is eight years old.
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>>342697584
Yeah that's why it's evil to use it.
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>>342697584
>3D changed all the bosses
>Except Majora who is so the same he even goes down like a bitch just like the original
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>>342708675
>A Black new enemy appears
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>>342703418
It also gives you crazy evade. >>342695229
They didn't remove it from the Zodiac version, dipshit. It was never in the Japanese version in the first place. It was added later to the US version as a guaranteed way to get the spear instead of the RNGfest present in the Japanese version.
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>>342710472

I remember getting that weapon and being underwhelmed by it.
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>>342710652
It could be useful in trial mode just because of the crazy evade bonus, though.
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>slow down time
>fast forward to third day
>roll into sakons hideout by clipping around the crack in his door
>equip any mask
>switch to npc control during puzzles
>swap mask with fierce deity
>when control goes back to link, he equips it
>finish puzzle successfully
>play FD everywhere
>don't talk to ANYONE

good fuggin times
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>>342708675
oh my god what is she doing is she back?
best girl
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>>342711050

Anon... no... you don't....
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>Game has an overpowered weapon only available at the final stretch

Well, I guess it ends with more of a bang than a wimper.
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>game doesn't have one weapon that is inherently better than all the rest
>has an assortment of lots of different types of weapons that you can even mix and match
>it's highly encouraged that you just use whatever you like in any given situation
That shit is why I love CUHRAYZEE.
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>Boss feels incredibly final
>Finally use those one-time use items that give you crazy buffs and full health/mana
>Steamroll the boss
>It has another phase where the buffs are removed
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>Game gives you second best weapons before the final dungeon
>After defeating the final boss secret post-game dungeon opens
>Super bosses over super bosses guarding the ultimate weapons
>After getting them all you can fight the final boss of the dungeon
That's honestly the bet way you can do it. You finished the story but there's shit beyond the story.
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>Getting the best weapon is an RNG shitfest
>That includes its stats
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>>342711050
It's Mai from Future Trunk's timeline
She gets killed by an evil alternate version of Goku
The Mai from the series universe is still a child.
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>Finally get the HF Blade in MGS2
>You get to kill a couple of Tengu soldiers and smack Solidus in the face a few times
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>>342694135

I can't stand it when games cap my items either

god damn it SMT4 let me have more than 3 somas, there's not really any reason to use them outside of the superbosses and I'm saving up for them
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>>342713047
>still has the glove his brother cut as a final goodbye.

dunno why, but that makes me sad as shit.
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>>342702843
I think you're confusing it with the Seitengrat or whatever that absurd bow was called.
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>NG+
>game has nothing new what so ever and it's just the normal game with your old skills and items

What is the fucking point?
At least scale the enemies a bit like in Dark Souls.
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>>342714435
>get the HF Blade on my first playthroughs, back when MGS2 was new
>kick ass with it
>blow through VR Missions getting top scores like nothing

>replayed it a year ago
>can't use HF Blade for shit

At least the stealth VR missions went a lot smoother. Reamed the shit out of those.
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>>342715868
No. It's in the excavation area. 1/10 for the chest to spawn, 1/10 for it to have an item, 1/10 for it to have the zodiac spear. Diamond armlet required.
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>>342692582
>Unless we get a direct sequel to MM
Would that ever happen? I seriously doubt that would ever even cross Nintendo's line of thinking.
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>>342687060
ETRIAN ODYSSEY!
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>>342713673
Mad
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>>342718225
Yes
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>>342685703
>unlock the most powerful weapon by completing a trial that proves you're good enough to not actually need it.
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>game lets you get a random box two hours into the game
>save scum until you get what you want
>tfw you get the second most powerful sword after a few tries

Star Ocean Second Story was masterful
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>>342697640
>>342704052
You fuckers gotta find a proper girl who loves you
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>The best weapon is a player mocking weapon for being shit at the game.
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>>342698451
But hey, that's just a THEORY! A GA-
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>get the best sword ever
>it's not for you
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>>342718396
What is every MMO ever.
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>obtain rare item
>hand it in to the blacksmith
>5% chance he turns it into the best weapon in the game
thank fuck for save states
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>>342692054
That really awesome
Like a mango thing
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>>342696603
>That level in Galaxy two where you had to play a 15 min long level on 1HP

They're fucking mad sometimes
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>>342718439
Best game.
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>>342685703
I beat Xenoblade Chronicles a few months ago and really enjoyed it. Completely turned off on the prospect of playing New Game+ as it's really the same game again except you keep your levels, gear, and Shulk gets the Monado III.

I decided to play it yesterday with the release of Dolphin 5, just to see if there were any noticeable differences in the emulation (which I couldn't really tell), and it really was as boring as I thought it would be. Weak mobs just ignore you, you don't aggro them, and I've killed every boss in under five seconds. It just becomes a walking simulator.
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>random chests in random area contain the strongest weapons for the entire party
>you need a certain item to open them
>you can interact with the chest BUT don't open it
>you can then travel to the future and open them
>they now contain the true strongest weapons for everyone
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>>342719617
Monado III is really only there to help with that ice dragon that spawns during night time on the peaks.
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>>342703384
HAVEL'S
FAP RING
HEALTH
STAMINA
ENDURANCE
EVERYTHING YOU NEED
thank you based afro
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>>342696603
I still haven't beaten it.
Probably never will.
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>>342705248
>not enjoying finding the green stars
>forcing yourself through it to unlock postgame content on a game you dislike

c'mon anon, why would you even do that?
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>>342697468
sex is shit, now a blowjob on the other hand, daaaamn, I didn't even care about cumming, the act itself was fucking glorious, I was even contorting
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>>342698078
I found it better in only 2 players, that was the sweet spot for me

some levels are straight unplayable though in more than 2 players, like the ones where your jumps trigger the platforms
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>>342685703
its either this or people bitch that hurr durr the game is so piss easy if you just go and immediately get the best weapon and use it the whole time because theres no reason to use anything else xd
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>>342697750
Yes, a very powerful item would let you defeat the last boss more easily. How again does that not apply to OP?
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>>342693549
Absolute Disgust.
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>Everyone carries their strongest weapon to NG+
>except that one character
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>>342699984
Fox and the Grapes.
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>>342721158
Poor Frog. He's useful in a first playthrough because of Slurp Kiss with Ayla, but by the end of the game he's outclassed by Robo pretty hard. Virtually useless in ng+.
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>>342720747
Because you don't complete the game to get it, you get it before completing it.
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>>342685703
I think the best spot for a great weapon is close to the end, or during the final boss fight. Nothing beats getting an awesome powerup or an enhanced version of all of your standard abilities for a final battle.
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>>342691840
the only dungeon you need to complete is the ice dungeon, so you can get the powder keg. everything else you can just get the item
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>>342702592
>withthe right setups

Tell me more.
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>>342722217
But that's supremely retarded because once you go back in time, you need to re-do the whole dungeon again if you didn't kill the boss. That means that in the long run, all you're getting out of this is the chance to do the Woodfall temple with the Great Fairy's Sword, since you have to do Snowhead no matter what, and the GFS is useless in the Great Bay Temple because you're in Zora form 99% of the time, even during the boss battle with Gyorg.
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>>342722513
It's Majora's Mask. You can redo any dungeon by playing the Song of Time anyway. So it's really even more retarded than that.
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>>342686442
sounds autistic
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>>342718969
Man, Champions of Norrath and Champions Return to Arms are pretty much the pinnacle of ARPG on consoles, but fuck getting class-specific gear for classes that aren't currently playing.
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>>342692830
thats not what this is
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>>342721261
>t. virgin
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>>342722060
https://twitter.com/tatsunoru/status/744175502198439936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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>>342722342
Keep that special meter meter up and play that ocarina.
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>>342725182
Pot calling the kettle back.
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>>342725824
>projecting
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>>342685703

Would you prefer nothing?

Also it's pretty bad ass looking. I like the black rose engraving.
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>>342726137
who are you quoting

?
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>>342685703
Like the fucking tommy gun in Resident Evil 4. Fun for 5 minutes, shit forevermore.

Someone needs to make a game where you start off awesome and have to sacrifice your great items to get through the game, making it harder as you go along.
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>>342691953

Fierce Diety is a greater evil than Majora.

Majora is just a childish demon. Fierce Diety is wrathful convinction incarnate.
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>>342726308
your mom
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>>342685703
It's like a platinum trophy but you can use it in game
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>>342726406
>Someone needs to make a game where you start off awesome and have to sacrifice your great items to get through the game, making it harder as you go along.
That reminds me of a japanese game where you start off as a hero that died after saving the world but because you were still needed for a couple of things you are temporarily revived. You start off at max level but as the game progresses your condition worsens and you keep losing more and more of your abilities since you're dying again.
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>>342690404
Prototype is always so much fun
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>>342693531

Secret of Mana is guilty of this with armor.
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>>342693531
I kind of did that in Mother 3.
PK Ground wasn't worth it.
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>>342722513
>But that's supremely retarded because once you go back in time, you need to re-do the whole dungeon again if you didn't kill the boss.
Just getting the dungeon item lets you bypass basically half the dungeon, it's not nearly as "supremely retarded" as you make it out to be. Besides, with ISoT you've got almost 3 hours to finish a dungeon from start to finish anyway which is plenty enough.
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>>342686401
Star Ocean 2. You can get the Marvel Sword way early if you pickpocket a guy and savescum.
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>>342729197
oops I didn't properly follow the discussion, never mind my point about ISoT
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>>342729257
Mah nigga. Between that and the ririca/rare medal/rainbow bracelet trick as soon as you get onto Nede you could be OP as fuck and it's glorious.
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>>342727979
To be fair Secret of Mana was a buggy mess, especially in later areas.
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>>342685830
Yeah but its from getting all the fairys in the stone power temple. Which is most peoples case is going to be the last dungeon than your at majora shortly after. Its really only useful if you didn't get fierce deity or have beaten the game before and intentionally get it before finishing all the other dungeons. Reverse dungeon order itself is pretty silly and requires you to progress far enough in the dungeons anyway.
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>>342730039

I've beaten SoM nearly a dozen times and I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.

Never once had a bug problem, only terrible companion A.I.
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>>342721635
you get both before completing it
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>>342685703
JRPGs are good for this
>Superboss gives best weapon in the game
>Its only use is for steamrolling the final boss who you are already extremely over leveled for

Xenogears in particular has a good example
>Unwinnable cutscene boss
>Its actually winnable through proper preparation in getting certain missable equipment throughout the game
>It drops the best armor in the game WHILE equipping an item also won from a fight that can be optionally won that makes rare items drop
>Its basically useless because disc 2 is almost entirely gear battles including the final dungeon
So yeah besides being retarded as fuck to even get the armor is basically useless because on-foot combat is almost non-existent on disc 2. Probably another victim of the budget cuts the game had.
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