>benchmarks confirm two RX 480 stronger than one 1080
NVIDIADRONES ON DEATHWATCH
>Have to put up with crossfires shit to match 1 card
>>342643719
>crossfire
top kek
>>342643719
Link?
>>342643719
Crossfire? like AMD is just gonna suddenly not be shit with Crossfire drivers? not worth it, i would rather pay the premium or buy a 490 whenever that fuckin comes out.
That'll sure be good for all the games that support crossfire, like______and___andfucking nothing
>>342643719
spoonfeed me. how much will the 8gb version cost? I want to play some wii games in 4k now that dolphin 5.0 is out.
>>342644193
probably like $250US
>>342643719
>DEATHWATCH
IT'S A MAD, MAD WORLD
>Deathwatch
Time to get brainwashed and purge xeno scum
>>342644324
Alright. Was about to buy two 770 04G-P4-3774-KR for $200. Might as well wait the week out.
>all that power
>to play minecraft and girlgames.com
>>342643719
How are the drivers? I swore off Radeons after BSODing all the time with Catalyst.
>not running two 1080's on your 2k ROG Swift
crying with laughter
>name 5 good games that support crossfire
>>342644041
>implying DX12 needs crossfire drive
>What is Explicit mode.
>>342644679
>2
>not 4
are you poor or something? lmao
>>342644920
Only have a 750ti so pretty much
>>342644193
$229 for reference.
>tfw I wouldnt mind going AMD but I dont want half the games I buy to be purposely sabotaged by nvidia
After owning a 6990 when it came out, I am never supporting Crossfire ever again. Single card is the way to go
>>342643843
>still cheaper :^)
>>342643843
Welp, in the end is all about the money, wich you have more power and spend less?
Only cucks care about the brand.
>relying on imaginary benchmarks and suffering through games that do not support dual cards
>>342644916
Oh shit bro forgot about that. Still kinda worried about it though.
>>342645125
It will be funny next year, when most AAA games come out fully supporting DX12. Nvidia still sucks at aSync them if they want to fuck up amd or they will have to go full gameworks because not even OpenGL will steer AMD from tracks.
>>342643719
>crossfire drivers
I'll take nvidia over MAD anyday
>>342644916
>>342645781
lol anon... MDA is way more difficult than AFR.
>>342645783
it will be funny in maybe three years. "AAA" developers are lazy douchebags who will stick to the oldest but viable shit. DX11 is what you get until DX11 is killed off by a new console.
>>342645783
>It will be funny next year, when most AAA games come out fully supporting DX12
And none of them do any of the shit DX12 can do because devs are lazy and all that shit requires actual work.
I am planning on buying a new card in the near future. My budget is max $350.
What should i buy? GTX 970?
>>342643719
>guys we beat nvidia with 2 cards on 1 game
amd cuck are STILL this delusional after years of shit drivers and games almost never being optimised for crossfire yet alone amd
>>342646354
god no
>>342643719
Wooooow took two of you guys to beat me
I just wanna say; the fact that you guys think crossfire/SLI is a GUD idea tells me that you lack awareness. Also, wanting a 1080 when it does absolutely nothing better than the 1070 again shows me you lack awareness.
>trusting AMD
>in current year
I did once and I'm never doing it again
fuck that company
>>342646354
Why the fuck are you buying a 970 in thread with a stronger and cheaper card? Are you retarded?
>MFW want to back the RX480 because its better performance/dollar but their drivers suck
>>342646852
Probably, I have no clue when it comes to GPUs or computer parts in general
>>342646867
>implying that they can't improve drivers
>implying they won't with the amount of people buying this card
>>342647072
>not believing history
>>342644528
>not browsing 4chan in 10k
Casuals
>>342647072
>every year we go through this same discussion
>and every single year people fall for the AMD meme
daily reminder that /v/ has a learning disorder
>>342643843
Putting a pair of 480s is still cheaper than a 1080. the problem is there aren't many games that are optimized for the current crossfire.
>>342643719
AMD always hypes up their benchmarks and always release dogshit cards. I don't know how people can still fall for Poointheloo's lies. We will never have the golden age of actual competition again. AMD will sell fucktons of subpar cards to consoles are poor people, nvidia will sell fucktons of decent but eternally incremental cards to people who want future proofing, good drivers, and bleeding edge performance. They're practically in different markets at this point.
>>342647404
>every year we go through this same discussion
>and every single year people fall for the NVIDIA meme
daily reminder that /v/ has a learning disorder
Crossfire/SLI is a fucking nightmare. Even on single cards with 2 cores.
My friend and I built PC's the same time about 5 years ago. I got an AMD 5970 and they got a 5870. They regularly outperformed me in games despite my GPU being hundreds more.
First and last time I deal with that shit.
>mfw still calling them ATI instead of AMD
I should change my ways one of these days.
>>342643719
>crossfire
LOL
>>342646867
>their drivers suck
Oh for fuck sake stop repeating that bullshit
>>342644104
Top kek
>>342643719
>Crossfire/SLI
>ever
When will this meme end? For every game that has optimised drivers for it, you get 50 without. Add in the micro-stutter and multiple GPUs are hell.
>>342647831
Their drivers do suck.
I use an AMD card and the most recent drivers cause CTDs during strenuous activity. Rollback to January's and not even one problem.
>>342646064
As if SLI is any better...
>>342647528
Nvidia is overpriced. But it just works. AMD is budget and it rarely works properly.
>>342648460
single card doesn't need it :^)
>>342647049
I'm the same. As much as I like games, I'm not a tech person at all.
Which is the best for AMD video cards anyway: Power Color, Sapphire, HIS, Asus or MSI?
>>342648396
at least they don't make my pc constantly crash like the latest nvidiadrivers :^)
>>342648774
dont worry. most people posting in these threads arent
>this board full of tech illiterate retards literally regurgitates /g/ memes like they're gospel truth
Impressive. I didn't think it was possible to be this stupid and autistic, but you guys managed to do it.
>>342643719
>SLi
>Crossfire
top lel
>incompatable crossfire
What games even work with it?
>>342644193
The reference version is $229. Most non-reference version will probably be between $239 and $269. For that price point and higher performance than the 980 in many games, I think its worth it.
>>342649017
MSI or Sapphire. Do not buy HIS under any circumstance.
>Being either an NVidia or AMD fanboy
Buy a quality card in your budget and enjoy vidya. Is it that fucking hard?
>>342648460
You're right, its barely better if at all, that's why you buy a single card.
>>342647831
I build cheap computers to sell off for a living, it usually takes me multiple driver installation attempts before one ends up being stable.
>>342646354
You've gotta be trolling even suggesting that thing around here. Have you read anything in this thread? Get the damn RX 480 and call it a day.
>>342643719
>Poos confirm don't need loos
GHANDI ON DEATHWATCH!
>>342648396
And nvidia have demonstrated that their drivers are flawless?
>>342649516
I'm still using a GTX 670. I think I'll just buy the rx480 and hope i'm not fooled.
>>342649516
Dumb Miku poster.
>>342649651
I'm basically technologically illiterate.
>RX 480 is releasing in a few days
>reference model
ugh nvidia and amd both fucked up big time.
>>342649516
Idk man. I currently have a 970 but it'll feel weird making the switch to amd.
>>342643719
>pooposting
>current year
>>342649920
Brand loyalty is a real thing?
>needing two cards that both run hotter and eat more power and dealing with shitty drivers AND non-existent xfire support all to compete with a single card that runs colder and uses less power.
>being this completely fucking retarded
No wonder their stocks have tanked.
Source?
>>342649838
That makes more sense. Try to lead with that next time. Yeah, the RX 480 will be around $200 for the 4GB (weaker) version and around $229 for the 8GB (stronger) version. For comparison, although the GTX 970 advertises 4GB, it can't actually use all 4 of its GBs and is more expensive. It's also weaker in a lot of other areas, but I don't wanna confuse you.
Wait for the 28th, look at some reviews for the RX 480 8GB version, and make a properly informed decision.
>>342647430
>there aren't many games that properly utilize dual GPUs, either in SLI or Crossfire
FTFY
>>342650240
Thanks man
>>342650047
Truth be told, I'm in the market for a good gpu, and I've used Nvidia for the last 3 upgrades I did (460, 560ti, 780 currently).
Last computer I used with AMD graphics was an Athlon64 APU
>>342650240
I am really interested with the 8GB version. If it can equal to the GTX 970, then it's a winner. It it beats it, so much the better. That 8GB allows for huge textures.
I think im going with nvidia this time, all the developer suck nvdias cock anyway
>>342647474
>nvidia
>future proofing
>>342649727
Have fun with a constantly failing card with shit drivers
>>342649920
The 480 is weaker than a 970 though
>Need to crossfire 2 cards to match a 1080
I'm sorry, how is that a good thing? Just buy 1 1080 then ffs.
>>342646867
>>342648396
I'm not saying you are wrong about it, but it's kinda funny. I literally have less crashing with my AMD card than when I had a Nvidia kek
Where does this >shit drivers meme come from?
I've had an AMD card for two years with zero issues
>>342647430
>>342643843
You still get a performance boost regardless. Used to use two 7850s for the longest time, worked great.
Please never buy mutliple cards sli/cf unless you do vms, encoding etc. they are fucking horrible for videogames.
>>342650689
aw yes, these cards which we have no real benchmarks on sure are worse than a card we know all about. thank you for your amazing input.
>>342650582
My 9800GTX+ lasted until 2012, and my 660ti will last until my EVGA 1080 FTW arrives on Tuesday, wouldn't even upgrade yet except that I'm wanting to switch to 1440p/144hz. Still plays most stuff around 40-60fps on high settings at 1080p.
>>342643719
>150 watt * 2
no thanks
Considering nvidia tries to gimp amd cards with memeworks every chance they get they can go fucking themselves
>>342650542
it benchmarks almost on par with the 980 ti
>>342650984
>Please never buy mutliple cards sli/cf unless you do vms, encoding etc. they are fucking horrible for videogames.
It still provides a significant performance increase, even if the game doesn't support it properly.
>>342649636
>I build cheap computers to sell off for a living, it usually takes me multiple driver installation attempts before one ends up being stable.
Some of the dumbest load of shit I've ever heard. Straight up bait, why did I even reply.
>>342651261
>It still provides a significant performance increase, even if the game doesn't support it properly.
No, no it doesn't. If a game doesn't support it properly, you get the performance of only one card, or in some cases, you get negative scaling and its worse than one card.
>>342650984
>Believing some poo in loos lies
>>342651159
100 watt
My rig currently has a i7 4690k, 16gb of ram and a GT 750.
If I just want to play games on ultra settings 1920x1080 at 60fps for the next couple of years, what would be the most economical card to buy?
>>342651384
>No, no it doesn't. If a game doesn't support it properly, you get the performance of only one card, or in some cases, you get negative scaling and its worse than one card.
Wrong and wrong! It will always perform better. Though if the game doesn't support it well the increase won't be as significant.
>you get negative scaling and its worse than one card.
Literally never heard of this happening nor had it happen to myself.
>>342651191
>Still believes the 480 equals a 1070 meme
Are you literally retarded?
AMD wont have a card even close to a 1070 for a LONG time
>>342651191
(when overclocked)
>>342651353
Not really, I thought it would be a hardware issue since it's a very common thing to have hardware problems but it's usually those stupid drivers.
>>342651648
>>342651709
No not even when overclocked asswipe
>>342651819
lol
>people are believing this without asking for source
Sure is new in here
>>342643719
>still no RX 460 performance numbers
>it's launching on June 29 alongside the 480
wtf bros
>>342647430
>B-bu-but two of these are better th-than one nvidia!
Do you have any idea how retarded you sound?
>>342651978
>chinese
that's gook
and it's fake
>>342652093
The 470 is supposed to be a cutdown 480, so I wonder what the hell a 460 is gonna be
I'll laugh if it's the 285/380 rebadged for a third time.
>>342647831
It does suck. I use them and they suck. As much as you defend it because "its a computer" you have to fuck around with it 10x more, and even then you will have some games with shitty support. Trust me yes the savings are great and when they work they work great but dont bullshit about the drivers being good
>>342651978
>3dMark
>Chinese
>"Leaked"
I have the suspicion that when it comes to raw power it might be as powerful as the leaks say, but I was watching 480 gameplay leaks...it does not max out anything, and I am expecting temperatures like 72C minimum.
Is $225 a good price for a GPU with a similar power to a 980? Or should I just play safe and go with the GTX 1070?
>>342651353
Someone who works in hardware repair here, one of the most common problems we have is driver issues on AMD cards. It's not terribly hard to deal with, but it's certainly more of a pain than nvidia driver issues, which are very few and very far between.
I need this now, this will be my new gpu for the next 3-4 years
>>342651019
Sure, mate. keep lying to yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh9Akfu90Gs
>>342652520
Do you want to deal with typical AMD bullshit?
There is a solid reason enthusiasts and gamers chose green
>>342651591
>Literally never heard of this happening nor had it happen to myself.
Maybe you should learn to use google then, fucktard.
There's literally no reason to go AMD if you're after high/enthusiast gaming
>fury
>crossfire
>sli
>anytime
>>342652705
Holy shit that lisp and limey accent
>>342652263
It can't be, the card is smaller than my dick.
>>342652636
3-4 years?
More like a year and some.
Xbox One ports run like shit on hardware that is 3 to 4 times much more powrful now. Nvidia cards suck in Dx12, and I don't expect AMD cheap bullshit $225 card to actually hold when Neo / Scorpio ports appear.
>>342652885
Remember back during the 9800 days when they were pushing quad SLI? So awful.
>>342652937
Things smaller than your dick are only theoretically possible.
Ten more years of work in the Hadron Collider and they might actually find something smaller
>>342644104
the games don't need to support crossfire thoughthey need to support DX12 crossfire
>>342650689
There is a number of leaked benchmarks that show that 480 is faster than 390x, which is significantly better than 970
>>342653106
"two voodoo2s is the future of pc gaming, 3dfx 2001"
>>342653456
RIP
>>342653309
AMD always had good value card, you just shouldn't buy it thinking that will be a monster, this time they will not launch a high end card, only mainstream cards but the 480 will have at least the same performance for the 390X/980 for less money, less powerdraw and much more room for overclocking.
On the CPU side tho, AMD didn't evolved since Phenom II. Just look at the screenshot, it is my Phenom II compared to the last most powerfull FX 8 cores CPU. It have almost the same IPC. The multi thread score is because mine have 4 cores, half of FX.
>>342653394
The 390 is better than 970, the 290 is better than 970. I don't know why people still fall to that meme card.
>>342652750
I won't lie, I have a tech knowledge equivalent to kindergarden.
I pick green and blue because Nvidia and Intel marketing is much more simplistic.
>Higher number the better
>It JUST W O R K S (TM)
That's it.
>This has less Cuda cores, and less bandwith memory
>But this one has MORE Cuda cores, more t.flops, and can process MORE textures
I do not even know what cuda cores mean for processing, I would need to read about how the information is being processed, and I am reading about it, and it is taking me ages to catch up.
I really can't read through AMD specs and know what to expect, and in real benchmark tests it is always comes in 3RD. It is cheaper but you are also getting an inferior product unless you really know your shit, and you know how to get the most of it by overclocking AMD stuff, and then you need to spend on a bigger PSU, and a way to cool your PC because AMD runs red hot.
>>342652990
you're that much of a pccuck? pls kys
>>342653394
>"leaked"
>Under AMDs strict NDA agreements
Yeah
You still believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus too?
>>342643719
Stronger and always much better to have mediocre cards, right???
>>342653746
Just wait for benchmarks
Or, even better, wait for reference cards and then look at the benchmarks
Look at 5-10 different benchmarks, try to find the closest configuration to your PC. After that, make a choice. Specs only matter for the fortune telling before proper benchmarks get released.
>>342654082
I believe that 970 is a shitty card
>>342654165
That is pretty much what I planned to do.
NDA will lift next week.
>Ima hurr buy 2 cards. 2 cards means 2x the fps durr
>>342649727
i've been using a 670 for 4 years too
>>342650595
the hell u on about i got mine summer 2012 and never got a single problem, and can mstill max out most shit.tfw 4 year old card running overwatch on ultra/epic @70fps
>>342654434
>NDA will lift next week.
Good that means these bullshit poo in loo shill threads will cease
Because we ALL KNOW that AMD is full of shit
>>342654442
I was talking about the AMD piece of shit not your 670
I have a GTX 750
What should I upgrade to that isn't more than $200
>>342652636
You used to call me on my cellphone.
shitty driver meme, if the gpu stays alive for 6 years, it aint shitty u fucking drones. I haven't seen any problems 2 years of recording gameplay as well. KYS
>>342655368
RX 480 retard
>>342655368
Firepro W9100
>>342652154
Considering how you still save money, it doesn't sound retarded at all.
>>342651469
>Founders Edition GTX 1080
You know what to do my man
>>342652990
implying I play AAA shit
>>342656195
It MIGHT save you money in the short run. In the long run it will cost more for extra wattage and burn the cards out faster, as is the nature of xf/sli. Not to mention the number of games that support xf is tiny.
>>342651469
RX 480
>>342648396
You think that never happens with Nvidia? I've gotten way more crashes on my GT 335m, GTX 765m, and GTX 770 than I ever got with my x1950 XT or HD 5870. Can't wait to go back to the red team with the RX 480.
I have a pentium G3258 and a 750 Ti.
If I take a rx 480 will I need to upgrade my cpu?
>built gaming pc for first time
>plan to get 480
>probably only going to play Mount and Blade Warband, and Crusaders King II
>>342648396
>have a 290
>have had less problems than my 670 from nvidia
must suck to be bad at computers
>>342643719
>Current year
>Using SLI/Xfire instead of a single strong card
SLI/Xfire scaling is shit in almost everything, some games don't even support double GPU configs. If you get a double GPU confic in current year you may be retarded.
>>342643719
>tfw just bought a 1070 today
Feels so good to not have a shit card for the first time in my life.
>>342643719
>2 cards to beat 1
>>342646867
>repeating old memes
AMD drivers are arguably better than Nvidia's now, since Nvidia pulls off this bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7fA_JC_R5s
>>342646867
nice meme
>>342652705
>That voice
Is that Tommy Wiseau's lost little brother?
>>342656831
No.
>>342646430
>unoptimized garbage
>still performing better than a card that's 2x it's price
You're not really convincing me to buy nvidia at all.
>not buying a budget card and waiting for the shit with hbm2
stay mad turrdburglers
>>342654114
>paying 1k dollars, or godforbid even more in euros for overkill of a card
I mean sure if you got money to throw around or you'r trying to do some 1440 ultra AAA or some 4k games.
I'm rolling on 1080 as well as vast majority, maybe 1440 in some cases, which there are much cheaper cards to go with.
>>342659162
>HBM2 will totally be game changing guys! Honestly! Please believe! AMD will completely crush nvidia with it! It will do everything you could ever imagine! Just wait a little longer!
Just like HBM destroyed the 980, right?
>>342643719
I have a GTX 770 and not too much money to spend. Is the RX 480 the best upgrade option?
>>342660459
The fact that the Fury can keep up with objectively better cards because of its retarded memory bandwidth should be some evidence.
Until nvidia is forced to "play fair" with developers and shit there is no reason to go AMD unless you want to be shit on.
>>342660930
Yeah, it just needs a water cooler to barely go toe to toe with obsolete air cooled cards. Groundbreaking.
>>342643719
please stop posting, you might trick some poor retard into actually buying AMD
>>342648571
>But it just works
Todd?
>>342660778
200 dollars for AT LEAST preformence as good as Nvidia's "mid range" offering, and faster than AMD's current high end.
The 480 is the new 460.
>>342654258
Keep meaning 970 gets the job done and then some still and will for a while.
Crossfire never works, though.
>>342662257
This. SLI is barely better, both multi-card solutions are fucking awful. You would gave to be incredibly gullible to fall for this shit.
>>342654442
>>342649727
I've been using a 670 for around 4 years too.
Mine just started dying randomly after ~10 minutes of game. But only some of the time, like 4 out of 5 times it causes a BSoD, the 5th time it works just fine for a 6 hour play session.
>>342662685
That sucks. My 660ti is still chugging along happily.
I hope some site does a 480 crossfire review, shit would be so funny
Im getting that 1070 senpai
>tfw super genius alien and can make my own super advanced video cards that are thousands of times more advanced than earthling video cards
>>342660229
>1440 ultra AAA or some 4k games.
>on a 1080
do you realize how costly 1440 ultra usually is
