Exhibition stream at CEO today at 6pm and tomorrow at 2pm EDT: twitch / ceogaming
Atlus stream at CEO for the whole weekend: twitch / atlususa
New trailer: youtu.be/dJ-YzmeigJE
HQ ver: gamersyde .com/download_the_king_of_fighters_xiv_team_official_invitation_trailer-37614_en.html
New characters bio pages: snkplaymore .co.jp/us/games/kof-xiv/teams/officialinvi.php
First for Kula ryona
>>342626328
Second for Mai.
>>342626328
Appreciate it
Obligatory KOF tutorial for new players:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3KVgI1LvU
Will we ever see Riot of the Blood Iori as a standalone character again?
First for Mian is NOT for lewd!
>>342627964
Kula is for lewd
>>342628142
Wish I could get off beating her.
Are there ryona JAVs I wonder.
Don't mind me posting best Athena.
>>342628385
>Kingdom Hearts 4.jpeg
>>342628142
That's because she is an ice cream slut. Mian is pure and virginal and wants to show you her smile.
>>342628469
They're honestly really bad designs and look completely out of place in KoF. They look like they'd belong in a more generically animu game like Tales or Star Ocean.
>>342628539
I want to protect Mian's smile.
>>342628642
That is modern fashion trends, just like how it used to be everyone new in leather and tight clothes.
>>342628642
Not really. There are worse designs then that.
>>342628709
Not if I protect it first, faggot.
>>342628908
I honestly think Falcoon's worst MI designs are better than Pillow Fag & Chuuni: The Character.
>>342629085
Well. It's Falcoon after all. Hard to top that guy in terms of bad designs.
>>342628709
>>342628956
>implying you are good enough to receive her smile
>>342629085
>>342629395
We're posting Falcoon now? Here, have someBlue Mary.
>>342630005
I liked that one.
It's silly and doesn't fit Blue Mary at all. But still.
>>342629085
pillow boy is cute
>>342629395
I think his art and his design tastes have matured a little judging from what he posts on his Twitter, but there's no way he'll get involved with SNK again.
>>342630005
>>342630135
OK then.
>>342630135
The only good things to ever come out of Falcoon's designs were Another Mai and Chae Lim.
Dumping a Falcoon artbook.
>>342628385
>>342630187
>>342630315
>These are Tung Fu Rue's new students
Not sure whether to feel bad for him.
>>342630495
Fuck Nagase.
>>342630598
>Implying Mai doesn't need a DFC to bully her
>>342630509
I want to see him turn the two fuccbois into something worthwhile, but since SNK characters must always be static one-notes I'm certain chuuniboy will just turn out like K'.
>>342630745
Probably going to end up worse and even more cliched than K' desu sempai.
>>342630713
>ready for the gay bar after this match
>>342630256
What about Lien?
>>342630939
Well, Falcoon is gay so...?
>>342630256
Lilly alt costume was adorable
>>342631103
It's okay.
>>342630394
Luise was actually not all that bad as well. Titty Britty was pretty good too and I wouldn't mind either one showing up in a real KoF barring Luise's weird alien spook shit.
>>342631308
Lien had a weird moveset though... She would have to get reworked a little to be in a 2D game.
Luise & Duke especially cuold be in KOF XV with little change, except maybe the command for Luise's grab DM.
>>342631103
It's one of the only designs SNK has actively acknowledged, since she appears in the clock tower stage in KOF XIII with that costume.
>>342630995
Lien is a two-bit mercenary agent whose only defining feature was her bust being unconfined by her jumpsuit. We already have Vanessa.
>>342631641
>Somebody couldn't handle "REQUESTING BACK-UP!" OTG shenanigans
>>342630713
That Saisyu themed one is cool. He also looks good with Yuki's jacket, but I think it would look better with dark hair.
Iori with Setsuna's outfit was cool too, but again, I would prefer his natural hair color. K' with that outfit would be perfect.
what happened to the stream?
>>342631514
>Chae Lim with May Lee's uniform
Neato
>>342628642
>and look completely out of place in KoF.
Stop being a shitposter.
>thread has already become an image dump
>>342631785
I think SNKP went with Iori because facially Iori & Setsuna are identical. Like how Rock Howard got a Kaede outfit.
>>342631917
Half the costumes in Maximum Impact were just loud references to other SNK characters.
>>342631929
>Defending Ash Crimson
yeah
nah
fuck off
>>342632015
>newfag doesn't realize why 4chan is an imageboard and not a textboard
>>342631521
I hope that if she ever becomes playable again that they use this design instead of the red dress.
>>342632038
>Defending Ash Crimson
I'm not doing that, you idiot. I just hate when people go "hurr durr shun'ei and meitenkun look out of place :(" when we have characters like Ash, K', Nameless and KoD around.
>>342632101
Holy fucking hell that bare back with buttcrack
>>342627453
I hope not, unless he plays differently enough from the default - if nothing else, XIII created a nice precedent.
>>342632101
>B. Jenet
>One of the first fighting game women to openly wear a thong
>Left a life of luxury to become a pirate queen with her own submarine and crew
>Practices savate
>One of her SDMs is beating the enemy over the head with her stiletto
Gotta love her.
>>342628642
The random folded up pant leg aside, I don't really mind Shun'ei's design too much. Not amazing but the jacket cape thing looks nice in motion. Meitenkun looks fucking weird though.
The zaniness of their designs stands out even more when put next to a really stoic design like Tung's too.
>>342632385
Indeed.
>>342629586
You're all getting the ugly angry mask and you'll like it!
>>342632101
What a gal
>>342630256
Duke was alright too.
>>342630745
You never know, their designs and even moves (Kyo 95 -> 96) could change a bit between games.
If they get better alternate DLC outfits, make sure to buy those so hopefully they'll help drive changes in the sequels.
>>342632242
Agreed.
KoD is everything wrong with "Outlaw" wrestling promotions like Lucha Underground rolled into a single character.
K' is literally a recolored sprite hack of a character from the game set in a post-apocalyptic future called Daraku Tenshi.
Nameless is a design-by-committee replacement for an (Arguably) better design because Eolith said "LOL Copyright Laws".Ash is Falcoon's husbando.
>>342632428
I thought that rolled up jeans on one leg was old dusty 00s fashion. Remember 50cent?
But then hipsters roll up both legs with their jeans like in the 80s.
Shuun'ei is fashion disaster.
>>342632796
>because Eolith said "LOL Copyright Laws".
Wasn't the guy who made Tetsuo totally okay with K9999 existing, though?
FUCK YOU
>>342632980
WHO ARE YOU
>>342632902
Yeah, but SNKP didn't want to deal with it. Same reason why Angel didn't show up in KOF games until XIV.
>>342633115
YOUR PROM DATE YOU SACK OF SHIT
I'm pretty hype for playing Angel in XIV.
>>342632287
>Another Jivatma is a moth girl
uh
>>342633613
That's good anon.
>>342633630
Considering that Jivatma was technically a parasite inhabiting someone's body, I don't think it's out of line to see "Him" in a female body if he thought that it was more powerful than what he had.
>>342633959
My team is probably going to be Angel, KoD & Geese at first. Maybe pick Mai back up (Mained her in almost everything except XIII), try out Terry and Mui-Mui.
>>342632287
>that Gundam Hanzo
I've gotta get MI2 again, somehow. That game was real fucking crazy
>>342634492
Pretty sure you can emulate it.
>>342627664
Isn't there one where she stretches her pants-thing?
Where can I find edited sprite animation like these?
I need you Yuri
>>342635628
ARE YOU OK?
>>342631946
This girl is better than sylvie
>>342634816
I have it, but I can't immediately find it. I imagine it's a scrapped intro animation of some sort. Wouldn't be surprising since Angel is as lewd 'n' crude as they come.
>>342632902
SNK pretty much hates everything from the Eolith days.
Leona
>>342636543
>they brought back Angel
'no'
>>342636673
Because they wanted to appeal to Mexicans. If they didn't realize the large burrito fanbase they have they wouldn't have brought her back.
>>342636793
>they hate everything from the Eolith days
>except when they don't
Fuck off already.
>>342636871
I don't see what's wrong with it.
Angel's back. That's all it counts.
>>342636543
IIRC they brought back the composer from 99-00 to make the theme for K's stage
>>342637025
Right.
>>342637039
>99-00
>Eolith
>>342636234
Please find it! Help me out!
>>342637186
You sound eager
>>342637186
Holy shit, calm down.
>>342636216
Aw fuck, she was a fucking pain the ass to fight in MI:RA because everything she does OTGs and her teleports are strong.
>>342636576
Change the colors up and bring back her "Normal" hair and it could be her KOF XIII design.
>>342637186
You seem a tad thirsty, Anon.
>>342638254
Ninja'd.
>>342637025
Wasn't Angel specifically one of the Eolith producer's waifus?
>>342638458
Correct.
>>342638458
>>342638551
Nah, it was Toshiyuki Kotani (AKA "styleos"). He designed K' & Maxima as well.
hola mexicans
>>342639026
Oh. Whoops.
>Female character is a staff member's waifu with all his favorite fetishes in one
>Bayonetta
>Lightning
>Dragon's Crown
They should do that everytime.
>>342637948
>>342638254
>>342638358
Thanks, my thirst has been quenched
I amok____now
Has Angel's VA confirmed to be FLCL Haruka again?
Who /Team Mexico/ here?
>>342639157
No problem.
>TFW you will never get the chance to put your waifu in a videogame
how do I jump CD irl
>>342639416
I don't think it's Shitani VA'ong Angel in XIV, but then again her voice has changed so much it could be.
>>342639519
"If you can't jump high, jump from high places."
>>342639442
I envy those who can.
>>342639613
>"If you can't jump high, jump from high places."
Or just hop.
>>342626328
>still no webm of M8an switch to kenface during her climax and then doing the flip
Im disappointed at how slow people are on this.
>>342639418
I'm /Team SouthAmerica/!!!
>>342630745
>Badass and patient old man attempts to un-fuccboi two fuccbois
Can it be done?
>>342639954
Guess the Brazilian check is the only character left which we have no idea how will play.
We know pillow boy is some kind of sleep boxing.
We seen Hien's on videos.
Alice is a Terry fangirl so lost likely some of his moves.
>>342639859
You're asking anons to ruin their waifu's face. Of course they're gonna be slow on it.
>>342639954
>stream
Your team is up next pal get hyped.
>>342640414
Maybe, but we all know what the bad end will be like.
>CEOgaming still streaming USF4 top3
C'mon man. You're killing me.
>>342640573
What the hell, why was the word stream quoted? I didn't type that.
>>342640428
>Brazilian chick
DELETE THIS
>>342640573
I'm going to shill the fuck out of that team, just watch me next week
>>342640530
Its only a mask anon
>>342640684
Clear up that clipboard, anon.
>>342639519
Depends. If want yo be like Mai, just jump hurling something at people.
Remember, the point of jump CD is to get people in the corner, just be creative.
>>342639519
http://youtu.be/9wQzlH8_OGQ
>>342640414
Only if he needs to sacrifice himself by teaching the fuccbois THE ULTIMATE SECRET TECHINQUE! THE HURRICANE FIST SENPUKEN!
>>342641058
>tfw Leona browses /m/
>>342626776
>>342641076
According to that Famitsu article Tung considers Meitenkun to be his secret weapon already.
>>342628385
From this pic alone with no context (and if I didn't already know the two characters), I'd never be able to guess it's from a kof game. Does look like a JRPG.
Only two new characters that really disappointed me so far, especially since they're the new mains. They're tied traight to Tung, so they should look somewhat like Fatal Fury characters.
Gang-Il and Luong are tied to Kim and they pull it off right.
>watching kof14 stream
>nobody play with ralf
okay
>>342642015
What about Xanadu?
>>342642015
I think Oda mentioned in an interview that they let a new young designer design the new main characters.
I feel like doing an KOF14 infographic chart for new players, but what should I put?
Newbs always ask about hops and execution in KOF, but what else?
>>342642015
Wait, Shun'ei is the new hero character?
>>342630187
>>342630315
I want the pillow boy to be my daki.
>>342628385
admittedly, with no context, this really fucking looks like a screenshot from a jrpg cutscene
>>342630892
man, K' could be legitimately cool with slight personality tweaks
but he'd risk being too similar to a tamer Iori maybe
>>342636543
I think they just didn't like KOF 2001, and that's entirely okay, it being kind of bad and all.
>>342642484
Well, what does the DandyJ video go over?
>>342642363
that would explain why in that leaked roster picture his drawing stands out amongst the others on that leaked roster
>>342642209
He's cool.
Wacky and ugly, while still creepy and intimidating, just like Chang and Choi.
His wackyness also reminds me of the earlier FF/AOF/Samsho characters. SNK was a litle more insane pre 1995.
>>342642489
Yeah, China Team is the new Hero Team.
Holy shit KoF hasn't even started and they're already like
>LEL PS2 GRAPHX
>DREAMCAST XD
>>342642605
Usage of the different hops and mixing them up, the "triangle system" (hop > low > antiair > hop), playing defensively and offensively, some OS.
>>342642363
Holy shit, it shows. This is a 2016 main character...
>>342642917
...and this is a 1991 main character.
When did young, overdesigned pieces of shit with over-the-top powers become the norm?
>>342643014
I blame anime
>>342642489
Yes. That's why he's on the box art.
>>342642506
I think too that K9999 was considered to be too much of a homage to Tetsuo... Like, if he had the same VA & personality but with Nameless's design and moves he would still be in KOF games IMO.
>>342642741
This is why I always say "Graphics matter when it comes to fighting games".
>>342642847
I used to have a little logo that showcased that system, but lost it.
>>342642917
>>342643014
I think it's the color choices and too much detail more than anything. That and there's too much "Zazz" in Chuuni's design for my tastes.
>>342643139
>This is why I always say "Graphics matter when it comes to fighting games".
The issue is that the graphics have vastly improved since that first horrendous trailer, but everyone is still taking the piss out of it.
>>342643014
Like >>342643121 said, blame anime. Several KoF characters are inspired by the anime of the time and other media. Designs started going towards what they are now in the 00s.
>>342643294
animation still sucks in places, but I can't really complain about the look otherwise
>>342643294
>>342643139
Character designs do matter more than graphic quality though.
Look at VF.
>>342643294
Americans love to shit on KOF as "That Street Fighter Rip-Off Mexicans play".
>>342643503
VF5's final update only got played because Japan creamed itself when Jean Kujo got revealed, then realized how broken the Sumo Wrestler was.
>KOF Thread
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>>342642741
Twich chat is cancer anon, especially for big streams, stay in the atlus chat
Andy's gone through a few renovations, and Joe has changed his trunks here and there, but these designs are 25 years old and still so fucking good.
Compare these heroes to >>342628385 and tell me there hasn't been a dramatic shift in style.
>>342643798
>TFW Geese's story is about him entering the new tournament so he can "Make KOF Great Again"
>>342643949
CAN'T SPRUCE THE GOOSE
>>342643949
>>342644036
Hail to the king, baby.
>>342643709
I didn't even know about that final update. I was talking about console VF5/FS.
>>342643949
>tfw Geese is here specifically to beat the shit out of Antanov and take his rightful throne as the king of fighters
mui mui looks terrifying
>>342643903
The decline happened much earlier than that, just look at he who doesn't exist.It actually started in 99 imo, but I can understand why people like K' and friends
>>342644209
What do you think FS means anon.
That said VF's designs are fine, but people who like old kung fu movies or martial arts in general will like the series alot more compared to others who dont think its flashy enough in comparison to tekken or SF.
>>342642741
Come back to the atlus chat, anon. They're hosting the stream.
>>342644212
>>342643949
Wasn't it said somewhere that Antonov is THE king of fighters?
I wonder how that will tie up with Geese.
Is it just me or is the stream laggy as fuck?
Also hellpockets has shit taste.
>>342644472
What did hellpockets do now.
And yea CEO's quality is kinda shit.
>>342644469
We don't know Antonov's story. All we know is he's the tournament's sponsor this year.
>>342644469
>Geese: i heard you saying you were the king of fighters like i wouldn't find out
Nakoruru looks sick
>>342643903
This is probably somewhat of an unwanted opinion in this thread, but I strongly feel like SNK's shortcoming with XIV is they fell for the typical 2d>3d transition trap in a series that has an established "look," which is using 3d as an excuse to go "all out" on detail. As a result, you end up with characters that look like they would never belong in a KOF game because they just wouldn't translate to 2d well due to the elaborate nature of their costumes or animations. I think that's one area SFV surpasses XIV: I could believe every new character (except Necalli) could have been from a 2d Streetfighter, but I'd never assume Sylvie, Xanadu, or the Bean Team was from KOF.
>>342644368
I cannot stand K'. He tries exceptionally too hard to be cool, aloof and uncaring, and he comes across as a straight-up unlikeable cunt who can't rock the "too cool for school" angle like Terry can.
>>342644472
>hates Yuri
>called her a scumbag
>>342645131
Meant for
>>342644598
BIRD CANCELS
>>342645370
Can't wait to get my hands on Nako
>>342645083
But the old characters still look pretty much as they always have. Look at Team Fatal Fury. The main change is that Terry has a bigger jacket, but still. I'm not sure "Does this look fine as a 2D sprite?" is a decent-enough measure of character design for a fighter.
>>342645108
only thing wrong (it's a major enough aspect of him by itself though) with K' is his design in my opinion, it would've fit back when 99/00 were supposed to be set in the future as originally planned but that never happened. His moveset is pretty much loaded with personality and is actually fun on top of that, doesn't bother me too much what type of personality that happens to be personally
moveset-wise Terry has always been my least favorite of the traditional Fatal Fury team lineup, for that reason alone I don't think I've ever liked Terry as much as everyone else seems to.
>>342642917
I want to see pillow boy in action, but I'm fine with him for now.
As for Shun'ei, I like his design overall. Maybe it's the overuse of "modern cool accessories" that makes him look a bit too much, but without the headphones, necktie and folded up pant leg, he looks okay.
Also, I like how he seems to have references from JJBA and how one of his special moves is basically Aurora Execution from Saint Seiya.
>>342644609
SNK wiki is claiming that Antonov bought out the rights to the King of Fighters name from a bunch of copycats, calls up a press conference in Sochi's Olympic Stadium, declares himself "The First KOF Champion" (Which explaims the belt he's wearing) and announces a new tournament.
>>342643897
>>342642741
Sometimes it's pretty amusing watching all of these people in chat out themselves as never having played a fighting game.
>>342645678
I like Terry's moveset because, like most main character movesets, it's well-rounded, does a little of everything, and covers all his bases. Terry almost always has an answer for anything.
>>342646034
Except crouchblocking
Post all the waifus you want.
It won't change the fact that boring game is boring.
>>342646198
That's what throws are for.
>>342644368
Because he's hot
>>342646332
dumb weeb poster
I want to look at Mian
>>342646198
>tfw 2k2um Terry has 2 overheads but isnt top tier because his name doesnt begin with K
>>342646034
Being an all-rounder isn't all that unique in KOF though
>>342646189
What's Shen doing by himself? That's a weird pose.
>>342645108
He has his chill moments, like wearing a hawaiian shirt in his XIII ending.
It's not his personality that bothers me, but his design and backstory.
One thing I liked about FF/AOF/KOF characters felt like they belonged in their respective eras, which made the games feel like they were happening NOW (well, then).
Then comes K' and his sci fi friends, and it really doesn't feel like 1999 at all and all the classic characters look out of place next to them. Had NESTS taken place in the actual future, I probably wouldn't mind it as much.
>>342645919
"The First KOF Champion"
I guess AOF2 doesn't count for KOF canon then.
>>342646667
K' can apply pressure like nobody's business in 2K2UM and has a lot of options to keep opponents out of close range though.
>>342646835
Oh, you.
>>342643798
They already did. It was called PS+.
>>342647005
>I guess AOF2 doesn't count for KOF canon then.
Or maybe Antonov just doesn't give a shit.
Hell, I can totally see him doing it on purpose to get Geese to participate.
>>342647005
Oh it does feel like it was made in 1999 though. Remember when everyone was prepared for the new millennium and everything looked clean and shiny and high-tech?
>>342647005
It's more like Antonov is a pro-wrestler christening a new title for a company that just shut down every one of their rivals.
Hellpockets:
>Nobody likes Shingo
I hope he's not being serious
>>342647272
Wow hellpockets IS fucking shit
I wonder how one would feel after getting shitstomped by xiaohai
>this fucking backround noise
>>342647426
As I said earlier, he's got shit taste.
>>342647272
But Shingo tries his hardest!
We still need to see a few newcomers, but I liked the ones I saw until now.
Luong and Gang Il feel like good options to be in a team with Kim.
Xanadu is just as crazy and goof as Chang and Choi.
Geese with his henchman and buttler also sounds okay.
Mui Mui fits better than I expected.
Nelson and Bandeiras are fun.
The new protagonists and official invitation team are the most outstanding ones, but let's what their roles in the game will be.
What's the name of that one TRAP boss from KOF 10 or 11(I think)?
Nakoruru looks like she's gonna annoy the shit out of people
>>342647935
..Shion?
>>342647935
Shion.
>>342648070
Yeah. That's the one.Got any more pic?
>>342647734
This reminds me.
Why isn't Goro ever on the father's team?
>>342631082
Really?
>>342647272
>hating on Shingo
how is this allowed?
I want Shingo to befriend some Kyo clones and team up with them.It would be funny if they were his fanboys or something, I just want to see Kyo getting pissed off.
>no BURNING ON THE INSIDE
shit trailer to be honest
>>342648070
>>342648162
>shion killed magaki from another dimension
Hue
>spanish in the stream
NICE
GOOOOOOAAAL
where's the Nakoruru BAYBEE fag
congrats, your waifu looks good
>tfw bout a HARP4 Kai when SFV came out when it was $250
>Haven't played SFV for a long ass time
>See stream ad for HARP$ Kai for $150
I should've waited to buy that stick.
>>342649295
forgot my face
>>342630745
I mean, there are worse things than being K'
>>342649402
Tjat show needs more brown witch waifu
>>342648661
>kyo clones
>fans of shingo
Not even K' likes shingo.
The only people in the Orochi and Nests main stories who like shingo are Goro (respects his perserverance, though considers Shingo's pride to be his downfall) and Saishu (recognizes his fighting talent, but in doing so, is also running a gambit to slap kyo's shit, which he will enjoy). Beni doesn't "dislike" him, but he mostly only thinks of Shingo as a joke. Chizuru seems rather neutral towards him. Everyone else related to orochi and nests either hates him or doesn't like being around him.
Oddly enough, everyone else either finds him either "alright" or "kind of annoying" at worst. Hell, I think even in-canon Mai offered to give Shingo advice about shiranui flames, but he refused (like a dumbass), hoping to make them on his own.
>>342632796
>"Outlaw" wrestling promotions
Honestly, go back to /asp/
>>342645484
Every time I look at this Andy, I see ProJared.
>>342649679
When'sChizuru x Shingo/ss/?
>>342649679
Ninja gunpowder flames are not shooting flames from your hands
>>342649679
>Like a dumbass
There's a difference between a dumbass and having self confidence, anon.
>>342649679
ouch, I want him to come back with his own team even more now.
SNK could at least make that Kyo cosplayer female his girlfriend.
>>342645083
I don't think there is anything wrong with Nelson and Bandeiras. Nelson is just a boxer and Bandeiras is just a ninja an archetype that has been explored like 10 times by SNK.
And Xanadu is the best newcomer
>>342649679
>shitting on shingo when he was able hold orochi iori off solo without dying
The man deserves respect.
>>342650003
Shingo's too old for /ss/
>>342645083
They are never going back to 2d
sfv ony has 4 fucking new characters
>>342645083
Sylvie's the only who looks kinda out-of-place to me out of the guys you mentioned
what steam are you guys watching
>>342650928
/ceogaming
it just ended though, so go to
/atlususa
>>342650557
Didn't stop a doujin from havingPoison fucking shota Ryu and Kenthough.
>>342650928
twitch tv/atlususa
>>342647272
But he's the King of the World.
>>342650928
ceogaming
>>342650928
Atlus, had to switch to it because the other one was cancerous. Did it ever get better?
>>342651039Did they have poison be a woman like in Japan or did they give poison a dick like in the west?
>>342651282It's a doujin, anon. Who do you think the most popular version is?
>>342651282
Poison always has been a futa.
https://clips.twitch
.tv/ceogaming/DelightfulSeahorseMrDestructoid
>>342628385
The blonde one is literally just Sin from Guilty Gear.
>>342652605
Sin is not that feminine. Meitenkun is literally boipussy.
>>342643709
>americans
Prove to me that it's just them and not just shotposters, faggot. This isn't just your game.
>>342652114
>Shingo fought RoB Iori to prevent him from killing Kyo for rea
SHINGO IS A FUCKING HERO
I still can't believe Kyo, Iori and Shingo were an official team in XI. Poor Shingo...
>>342642015
It makes sense for them to look different from the FF protagonists, especially if they're Chinese themselves.
>>342652896
>fat kyo
>>342642484
Make sure to cover the close hard attack -> command normal -> special combo pattern common to most of the cast, and that that works from a running state.
I don't see that mentioned often enough, and especially didn't back in 97 what that apparently got introduced.
Why did Daigo hate KOF with a passion anyway?
>>342653259
Hop normal before close normal for maximum damage.
>>342653525
First I hear of this. Story?
>>342653583
Hop are a huge must contribution to the KOF game.
>>342653997
He hated KOF because it didn't suit him and reminded him of SF4. He said the game had too much defense.
>>342644469
Antonov's build reminds me of the bosses from Street Smart, which precedes the original Fatal Fury (whose secondary name was The King of Fighters), and apparently a music track from that game made it to Fatal Fury as well.
Curiously the bosses in Street Smart appear to be named while the player characters aren't, but it's been mentioned often that the player character in a gi looks like Takuma's KoF self.
By a process of elimination, this would leave the blonde player character as Antonov - which would be weird since he was a patriotic American outfit while Antonov is supposed to be Russian, but Street Smart is all about competing all over the US while the Cold War is going on, so it would be a good reason to try and not look too foreign...
>>342645083
growing pains of experimenting with a new medium. Some character probably use too many colors, but I like how Mian can use the 3D and the blind angles it can create with her movements to apply her mask switching during a match.
I can imagine Nelson and Shun'ei's designs getting revised in DLC outfits or for a later game for something with a clearer color identity, but most of the cast is fine in that aspect. Sylvie's supposed to be a mess, so she's OK.
>>342654220
This.
>>342645108
He seems partially inspired by Spike Spiegel from Cowboy Bebop - they should probably play up the similarity a bit, if not in attitude, at least in outfits, like having him use shorter sleeves more often.
>>342643368
But does that say a lot about modern character design being shit or the character designers themselves being bad? Leona certainly looks like a character from the mid-'90s with the wild, pointy blue hair and such but it's something that still has a bit of a timeless/iconic look to it whereas is anybody going to remember or love Shuun'ei or his design?
The problem is that nobody seems to understand anymore how to keep things simple. Just look at Kyo's current design vs. previous ones to see exactly what I mean, or look at most of Falcoon's MI designs. Everything is overdesigned and almost shows a Guilty Gear/ASW influence in how over the top and overly anime it is instead of using it as a base by tailoring the design to fit in the series. Using Street Fighter as another example, Rufus and El Fuerte are going to be footnotes and nobody likes or cares about them partially because their designs are dumb and they don't look like Street Fighter characters; or you go the opposite direction and look at Abel who's exceedingly bland and again is pretty much already forgotten in a sense. Bitch about V but (hair aside) Laura's a pretty good design that strikes a good balance between unique and simple and she's someone I can see sticking around because she feels like she belongs in the series compared to most of the other new characters from SF4 and SF5.
>>342645919
If possible, try and use official sources: http://www.snkplaymore.co.jp/us/games/kof-xiv/story/
>>342647005
it's not even clear if the whole business with Mr Big kidnapping Yuri ever happened in the KoF timeline, although her learning Kyokugenryuu basics in a year like in AoF did, based on XIII dialogs.
>>342645919
>bunch of copycats,
who were the copycats really?
will Adelheid show in the story and as a future DLC character
>>342655568China, MUGEN, flash gamesThe story of XIV is a reference to real life SNK and actual KoF.
>>342648419
You probably need to raise a martial artist old enough to compete to qualify.
>>342653015
I mean they should look like they fit in FF.
>>342655691
I thought SNK loved Mugen for all the right reason, why they would have a grudge against them.
>>342655990
>I thought SNK loved Mugen
Yeah, just like they love piracy. By the way, totally forget about WAREZ from Neo Geo Battle Coliseum, that was just a silly joke LOL!
>>342655568
Wasn't there a KoF ripoff made by some Chinese company? I remember they actually got permission from SNK to use some of KoF's characters for their roster.
Other than that, it's probably just a shot at fighting games in general. After all, this is supposed to be the KING of Fighters.
>>342655568
>will Adelheid show in the story and as a future DLC character
I hope not. What a completely stupid character.
>>342656185
King of Combat, right? SNK let them use Terry and Benimaru for a while, but that ended months ago.
>>342655568
>will Adelheid show in the story and as a future DLC character
No, he's to busy rebuilding and increasing the Bernstein family numbers with Rose.
>>342656568
And who are the people in the bottom supposed to be
I don't recognize any of them outside of Garou's final boss
>>342656698
New characters from the cancelled sequel to Garou
>>342656698
New characters for the unfinished never released Garou 2.
>>342656416
Why, Adelheid trying to continue the Bernstein name with the KOF name.
Antanov trying to piss off everyone then I'm sure Adelhied wouldn't take it very nicely .
>>342656698
New characters for Garou 2.
What I do know is that the chick is supposed to be Joe's pupil.
I don't think we ever heard anything about the others though.
>>342656698
brown girl on the bottom row is presumably Joe's apprentice, the devs mentioned that there was going to a character like that in the planned Garou sequel and said that she was a cute girl or something.
Where's Mr Karate II though? It's known that he was planned to be in Garou 2 too
>>342656185
I know there was a King of Fighters moba. No idea what happened to it.
>>342657223
>It's known that he was planned to be in Garou 2 too
That screenshot was fake.
>>342656689
>No, he's to busy rebuilding and increasing the Bernstein family numbers with Rose.
Adelheid is training to become better than his father. Rose needed her tubes tied anyway because she's a poor mother.
Will May Lee ever return? I really like her
>>342658132
since her seiyuu died likely no
>tune in
>sf lmao v
where is she senpai?
>>342658915
You missed her anon.
>>342658915
go back to atlususa
>>342658915
twitch tv/atlususa
>>342658862
Mai and Athena have changed VAs a few times and they're far more famous, that shouldn't be a problem, compared to animated 2 completely different movesets for her.
What gets me is that Chizuru actually convinced both Kyo and Iori that having Shingo on board was a good idea. Kyo thinks Shingo is a doofus (only gave him his gloves as a "nice try") and Iori can't stand him for admiring Kyo.
Yet they both agreed to do so.
Chizuru's power isn't in her mirror, it's in that silver tongue of hers. Holy shit.
>>342656483
>ended
Did they patch them out or something?
>>342656568
>nadia
Guess she got tired of bowling.
>>342648162
I want Shion back. He's awesome
>>342626328
did the graphics get better?
>>342660652
HE'S STUCK
IN ANOTHER DIMENSION
Literally.
>>342660724
If the last time you saw the game was when it was first revealed, then yes.
>turn on stream
What is this shit, who are these SF players?
>Cr.LP on tech rec
I'M OUT
>>342660913
kof is now on atlususa
>>342659426
I don't think Athena has.
>>342660874
He got out after XIII's story mode.
>>342656791
>>342656795
>>342657195
>>342657223
To be honest they're kinda boring.
I mean i kinda like brown chick, muscle dude and the baggy pants man, but thats it.
>>342660724
What kind of question is that? If he saw the first teaser, he'd then know than Mian wasn't in it so maybe he could see just from OP's pic that she's a far cry from the first teaser's derp Kyo.
>>342660347
Licensing agreements giveth, and licensing agreements taketh away, so goes our digital future.
>>342661431
I think they all look like shit but the girl.
>>342659979
>Chizuru: you two will be in the same team and will LIKE it. Or else I have some photos that can go viral on the internet...
>Iori + Kyo: y-yes ma'am
I like this
>>342656894
He's stupid in that I hate the very concept of Rugal having a faggot pretty boy son who's totally a good guy. He's a completely unnecessary character and his moveset is just a dollar store version of Rugal's and his design is fucking shit. I seriously hope he's never brought back.
>>342656698
The brown girl is Joe's student. The guy with the yellow coat is Rob Python for sure. The last one could be a new character entirely or Mr.Karate II. The rest I don't have a clue
>>342662582
I agree. He's a really shitty descendant of Rugal and his moveset is just a lame version of his. I'd rather Rugal keep getting resurrected.
>>342656568
Is that Rob Python?
>>342662774
Could be, except Rob is a boxer.
>>342662582
On the other hand, Rugal's attitude passing on to Rose while Adel gets modified versions of the moves means both character could theoretically be in the same (dream match) game without the problem of playing too similarly to each other.
>>342662774
Looks too tall too me, but since some of the sprites look like edits, maybe it's not a final version.
>>342661225
Athena went through a few until they settled on Ikezawa with, I think, '97 and she's been the voice ever since.
>>342662743
He's legitimately my least favorite character in the series, even more than Momoko. He's total fanfic-tier garbage. Most of the other tag-era characters are fine (even Malin who I actually like a lot and is fun) but goddamn is he the pits.
>>342662548
What kind of photos were they?
>>342663548
embarrassing photos
>>342662942
Rob wearing a pimp jacket instead of gloves would be pretty nice though. He's someone who honestly should've been added to the series by this point.
>>342664361
gay
>>342663082
>Rugal's attitude passing on to Rose while Adel gets modified versions of the moves
That's the point. Adelheid inherited Rugal's power, while Rose - not a fighter - inherited Rugal's ambition and arguable spite.
>>342661225
if you played earlier kofs you would have known, that yes, athena has gone through several vas
kyo also recently changed va, as have some other characters
having a character with a different va is not an issue, now some people say that they will respect a character's integrity if the va actually dies, but it's an always enforced thing
>>342655369
It most likely did since that what prompts her to train and learn kyokugen in the first place.
>>342661297
AW FUCK
>>342661693
So, did they patch them out?
If so, that's kinda nuts that people can do that now.
BIRD'S THE WORD!
>>342667253
It's an online multiplayer game.
>>342667423
I guess.
>KoC terry had the blade wave
Fuuug wish I had played it.
>>342659979
Remember that shingo was some how strong enough to make it into kof as a single entry, and won against at least one team by himself.
Shingo is the real fucking deal
When trailer for another world? I wanna see pirate chick
>>342659979
I want to try out that silver tongue of hers, if you get what I'm saying.
>>342668246
It's one of the last ones i believe
>>342666172
The Sakazakis never react to Big or Geesehen they share KoFs, it's weird.
>>342668215
Maybe they felt bad for him or got caught off-guard. Or both.
"Alrighty, kid. Go ahead and give me the ol' one-two. I think I can take it."
>>342668317
Sounds painful.
>>342668965
I guess only some things managed to carry over to KoF canon.
I mean, technically, the AoF members should all be at least 10, if not 12 years older than everyone else.
>>342669143
Thin line between pain and pleasure.
>still no Gals Fighters 2
Kill me.
>>342669653
what would the roster be
>>342669805
Every SNK girl.
And the ADK ones for good measure.
>>342669919
>>342669653
fuck, I need this
>>342669919
Wouldn't that be like a bigger roster than KOFXIV?
>>342670213
...Yes
>>342669805
Mrs X on Period is the final boss.
Is the Riot of Blood
>>342670764
Also, someone called her old.
>>342670675
What the fuck is up with your eyes, Richard?
>>342670919
>her
>>342670998
He's losing it because a bunch of women are tearing his cafe apart and Bob has the day off.
>>342670675
>eating cake with a fork
wtf
>>342671276
IIRC, One of the endings actually turns Iori into Miss X permanently.
Fuck it, let's make that canon.
>>342670919
man the women's fighter get more vapid and less likable every year.
when was the last time they had an ending where they weren't catty bitches
>>342671376
Don't tell me you eat your cake witha spoon?
>>342671376
>he doesn't eat cake with a fork
You WUT m8?
>>342671494
Mai has always been a bit of a diva - "Japan is #1!" and all that.
>>342670919
Well King's not getting any younger. Ryo needs to hurry up and put a baby in her before he's raising another guys kid like Terry.
>>342671758
please you wish Terry could raise your kid, maybe he wouldn't grow up to be a punk
>>342671758
She was already raising a brother
>>342671494
The last time we had a women's team before 13 was in 2k3. The past members were split into other teams past from then onward.
What did she mean by this?
>>342672320
Who knows.
>>342673210
is this bestiality porn?
>>342671494
This is just an issue with KOF. Everytime a character gets into KOF from another franchise, they are nearly flanderized levels, if not completely flanderized.
Mai isn't what I'd call a square by any means, but the way they portray her in KOF is just a big tittied bimbo.
You see that remark about Joe Higashi in KOF? They had to bring that up because Joe Higashi really was a joke to the KOF designers back then. But the people working on the game now are from the Fatal Fury era, like they said. So get used to a more serious Joe who will be getting a girl and not a trannie. Or at least, he'll try to get the girl while being chased off by Billy.
>>342674793
hopefully mai will be more serious
Who calls out for Andy more often, Mai or Barney Fife?
Official Invitation is a fun bunch
>>342644469
Obviously the King of Fighters is only a figure head. All the real power with with the Prime Minister of Fighters.
>>342674793
Well, Mai gained a new DM in KOF14, which is actually a super from the Real Bout days (the flame pillar.)
>>342670675
Maybe they can get in a game again if they reform the highschool girls team.
>>342669919
I'd play the fuck out of that.
Can't wait until team Southtown.
>>342675871
Nice art
>>342676558
She had that in 2003 though.
>>342674908
She is not really supposed to be too serious. It's just that she got turned into sort of an idiot ever since KOF.
In Fatal Fury she's just a female would-be ninja who takes things in stride. She still has a big thing for Andy, which was triggered by him giving her a birthday gift. She actually wasn't that interested in him at first until then, so it was kind of cute. She is pretty basic even here, but compared to KOF, it's a lot more in the favorable direction. She's still the sexy charismatic ninja girl we know and love on the other hand. Her endings range from silly to cute.
In KOF, she's just really annoying. All of this "I'm a girl, hear me roar, something something blah blah girls can fight too, sexism is outdated, where was my original personality blah blah chauvanist pig I'm so sexy look at my ass". Of course this was kind of consistent with a lot of girls in KOF, so you miss out on the charm points of their characterizations that come from the source franchises. Where KOF excelled was in its own original characters like Leona.
The Fatal Fury dev team reportedly got pretty peeved about the treatment of their characters that they supposedly refused to allow more of their characters into KOF. I have no sources for this but eventually I'll find it sometime down the road in a future KOF thread.
>>342676558
There are a couple of other moves from Real Bout days, and even earlier KOF days that she doesn't have anymore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3k6RISmwoQ#t=7m9s
>Sui Chou no Mai
>Houou no Mai
And this move:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz_f43O0eqk#t=3m36s
Among a couple other things I missed, being normal specials. If I remember, the flame pillar move was a special move in FF3.
>>342680030
I feel like Yuri got the same treatment
she's like 22ish but she acts like a fucking child
>>342680739
As I said, everytime a character from another franchise gets into KOF, this kind of thing happens to him or her, but especially her. The mindset of KOF developers at the time wasn't to have proper treatment of characters (then again a lot of AOF characters tend to have questionable quality anyway), it was just to have a giant fanfic level crossover and then have its own original the characters fight with them, too. Keyword being fanfic. Think about that for a second and let it sink in the mentality, literature-wise, these crossover developers would probably have.
Look at Yuri in the cutscenes and in AOF2 and then compare her to KOF Yuri. So you would be about right in how they've made her really childish.
>>342680739
>22ish y/o girl and acting like a child
You say this like it's unusual.
>>342681312
they at least seem to be reversing this trend somewhat
they said that Joe would be more serious and Kim is no longer as much about MUH JUSTICE
>>342680739
Yuri acts the same way she did in AOF2, which is preferable to the crybaby damsel in distress from AOF1.
>>342656568
Man i really want a Garou MotW 2, maybe after kofxiv
And i kinda like the last 2 characters, i think one of the best things snk does best is using movesets to make characters cooler
>>342654220
is he talking about 14 or just KoF in general because i've never heard anyone say KoF is way to defensive
>>342654220
>KOF
>too much defense
Maybe in really older KOFs where you had the dodge move and low life DMs, but 96 on up had rolls, and 97 introduced advanced mode for no low life DMs but meter-based DMs and guard cancel moves. After 96 the series became the kind of playstyle that we are more familiar with.
>>342644469
I'm just wondering how the final boss will tie into this.
>>342680739
You're absolutely right, anonymous poster! It's about high time my daugh- I mean, Yuri, started acting like a proper woman! Why, I'd even go as far to say that it's unbecoming of someone like herself to even practice martial arts! She should call it quits and leave the Kyokugenryu style to her brother. I'm sure it's what her devout, persistent, and may I mention handsome father would want. Also, don't forget we're- I mean, the Kyokugenryu Dojo of Japan is having 25% off all entry fees this month, and your first lesson is free! Sign up now!
>>342683442
tell me about Mr. Karate, why does he wear the mask
>mfw the AoF team makes note of Mian's masks
>>342683442
I want Yuri to teach me how to do a Haoshokouken
>>342680030
>The Fatal Fury dev team reportedly got pretty peeved about the treatment of their characters that they supposedly refused to allow more of their characters into KOF. I have no sources for this but eventually I'll find it sometime down the road in a future KOF thread.
I believe it. They turned Kim into a joke character in a fair number of his endings. The worst is in XI, I think, where Kim is just a babbling drunk ranting and raving about justice endlessly. Also, a fair number of characters complain that Kim is a bit too wound up and takes things too seriously (Kensou is particularly savage in XIII).
>>342680739
In Yuri's defense, they did that to play up the "Ryo's adorable little sister" angle, to the point that she ends her sentences with "-cchi" solely to sound extra cute (instead of "Shoubu!" it's "Shobucchi!")
>>342683903
seems like they're moving away from that in XIV, he's teamed with his master and his master's girl instead criminals he's trying rehabilitate and his bio this time around seems to indicate he's more about trying to prove the strength of his TKD this time around
>>342684413
Yep. He's jumping in the same boat as Ryo and wants to validate the strength of taekwondo, instead of strictly fighting for justice.
>>342683820
I actually don't know, but I'd imagine it probably has something to do with Takuma being the embodiment of Kyokugenryu instead of being a master of it. Funny to think how well Takuma becoming Mr. Karate transferred over into the KoFXIII tier lists though. Also:
>tfw when Mian does a mask switch and it's the Mr. Karate mask.
>>342684108
Her voice actress come up with that.
>>342683820
>>342684673
It's because he had to commit murders and wanted to protect his identity.
>>342684673
Takuma invented Kyokugenryuu. He's such a badass that in Team Art of Fighting's ending in 2000, he saves King's life by deflecting the beam of a killsat with a single Haoh Shi Gou Ken.
>>342685214
Yeah feat-wise Takuma is amongst the strongest characters in KoF.
I wonder how Korean DSP stacks up to him
>>342685214
Wasn't that just so Ryo would finally fuck King? Damn, it's sad to think that Ryo is the new Andy. I mean, Robert's always been a joke to Yuri, but Ryo being in Andy's position now? Sad.
>>342640428
Nay, there is also the third member of the Another World Team along with Mui Mui and Nakoruru, who's name I can't even remember.
She's some kind of pirate in a Pachinko game right?
>>342685585
Ryo/King isn't as lovey-dovey as Andy/Mai. Ryo respects King as a person and a fighter, and that drew her to him. They're not officially an item, and Takuma, Robert and Yuri have been tearing their hair about about it. I think at a couple points, Takuma has outright called King the "Bride of Kyokugenryuu" or something similar.
>>342686006
Love Heart, a sky pirate from the Sky Love pachinko series.
>>342685585
Wait, I thought neither one of them wanted to fuck. I don' t see how that compares to Andy actively running away from Mai's ninja booty.
Post lewds of Luong and/or Mai please
>>342686736
Preferably Luong ON Mai, femdomming her and sitting on her face, while Mai struggles like Cammy did in that one gif of Chunli and Cammy
>>342686237
>love
almost as bad as "Dinosaur"
>>342688270
King of Dinosaur is great, don't hate.
>>342689320
Who could hate the king of dinosaurs
Does KOFXIV have a Discord or
>>342691374
r/kof is a thing but it's pretty slow
Can't answer the discord question, I'm looking for a KOF discord myself
A highlight video a BR just made from CEO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s79kdM4WT8
>>342686946
this too. but anything will do, senpai.
>>342686946
what now
I want to eat Muimui's buns
>>342693628
I want to put a certain hotdog between her buns.
>>342670675
What's with that guy's face?
I'll try to create a /KOF/ Discount.
>>342695845
There already is one
>>342696254
Link?
>>342696367
I think there's two, an older kof discord, and a dreamcancel one
>>342697372
Link for both?
>>342696549
BirdJosh was going HAM
>>342665175
Adelheid needs to train Rose
It wouldn't surprise to see him train her forcefully instead using her as a baby making machine.
>>342663302
>Ikezawa
Did she voice XII previously
>>342698429
I mean XIII not XII fuck me
http://www.mmcafe.com/news/posts/10196.html
4Gamer interview with Oda, Ogura, Watanabe and Neo_G
>Oda feels obligated to make a new MotW since fans keeps asking for it
>wants to make a new AoF, Athena and Metal slug
>Ogura wants to make a new World Heroes
>Watanabe wants a new Buriki-One
>>342699096
Holy shit, is the old SNK returning? That would be awesome!
>>342699516
That has literally been the goal and the point since KOFXIV started development. That's why this game is even getting made, that's why they dropped the Playmore from their name and went back to the original name, logo, and motto (THE FUTURE IS NOW), that's why they developed their own engine for KOFXIV instead of licensing an engine. SNK is fucking dead set on being a contender again, they WANT to be seen as the top of the line for video game ass video games. This is only step 1 in a very long term plan to recreate the SNK of old.
>>342699096
In addition:
The jump speed is loose on purpose. Previous KOFs were designed for the arcades, but 14 will be mainly played online and the game was specifically designed to accommodate that. Speaking in detail, the game was designed so that with 2-4 frames of lag it'll feel very much like 02 or 13.At least it's not 8 frames
>>342699732
So they will bring back Falcoon too right
He plays a role to KOF and other SNK titles.
>>342700007
After Maximum Impact, SNK hates Falcoon.
>>342699772
>the game was designed so that with 2-4 frames of lag it'll feel very much like 02 or 13.
I get why everyone is doing this nowadays but I don't like it at all. Tekken 7 has 2-4 frames of intentional input lag too.
>>342700007
Falcoon was just a lucky drawfag who happened to walk into chance when SNKP laid off their old artist. He wasn't part of the original staff at all.
>- The game engine was internally developed by SNK. They were considering Unreal Engine earlier in development but decided not to go with it because the version at the time didn't match well with SNK's situations including their knowledge, budget, and potential risks.
>As a result it was inevitable that they were going to be bad with lighting and shadings, but given that they need to build up their knowledge, they went with their decision.
well I can appreciate their honesty. XIV might not look pretty but at least they really seem to be doing their best to build a solid foundation for future titles
>>342700158
I see guest he deserved it, we will see the original artist comeback when KOF is popular again.
>>342700278
>we will see the original artist comeback when KOF is popular again.
Shinkiro is Capcom blood now, that's not happening. Besides, they have Ogura who is arguably a better artist and was with the team since the Fatal Fury days.
>>342696549
Those bird cancels are quick.
>>342700365
Shinkiro and Ogura are good artists
As long the door opens for wide to Shinkiro he'll comeback anytime right?
>>342700096
They're not saying it has built in delay, they're saying when you're playing online if you have 2-4 frames of online net latency it will feel like old KoF.
So the new articles confirms everything leaker anon said about the game (not that it hasn't already) even down to the small bit about the game engine. I wonder how that realistic looking very early build they had looked like.
>>342700509
I'm sure SNK would love to have him, but like I said he's Capcom blood now.
I wonder what exactly prevented them from using Unreal engine
like, it's "free" (you only pay royalties afterwards), works fine and is popular so every developer out there knows how to work with it
>>342700652
Sooner or later he'll be free from Capcom hands then return in the arms of SNK grace
>>342700007
Fuck Falcoon
>>342699096
>Oda wants to make a new AOF since the series never got far enough to find its answer as a fighting game
>Neo G played Samurai Shodown all the time and wants to make a seriously bloody Samurai Shodown for grown-ups, almost like an MK but with a traditional Japanese samurai drama taste.
>Ogura wants to make a new World Heroes because noone will complain no matter how crazy he goes on it.
>Watanabe wants to make a new Buriki-One, now that consoles come with two analog sticks. He thinks the game can be refined for more fun.
Well I hope they get to do all this shit. We hear all the time about stuff devs like these guys want to make stuff, especially with Capcom, but it never seems to happen.
>>342700868
It's mentioned in the link posted in >>342699096
> The game engine was internally developed by SNK. They were considering Unreal Engine earlier in development but decided not to go with it because the version at the time didn't match well with SNK's situations including their knowledge, budget, and potential risks. As a result it was inevitable that they were going to be bad with lighting and shadings, but given that they need to build up their knowledge, they went with their decision.
In short money, risks and an unknown future
>>342700868
>like, it's "free"
KOFXIV started development in early 2014.
Also, current development strategies have changed since last gen. So in the PS2/Xbox days, everyone was making their own engine because there was no readily available commercial engine you could license. That changed last gen with UE3 which became a huge success. The huge success of that engine led tons of companies to develop their own engines in an attempt to have something they could license out, but after that generation passed and this one came into its own, people realized that licensing out engines is a waste of money and started making their stuff proprietary. From the developer side, if you plan on making TONS of games over a long period of time, licensing an engine for every single game you make gets really costly. In the long run it's much cheaper to spend a lot of money right now to make your own engine so that in the future you don't have to spend shit.
It's not that there was anything preventing them from using it, it's just that it is no longer the smartest idea for all developers. It being free is great for smaller developers, but for a bigger team like SNK it's going to be more financially viable to do what they're doing, and making their own engine from the ground up means that they will eventually have a really great understanding of how it works and how to get the results out of it that they want and it will become a very unique experience from other games.
I hope Monster Maezuka's voice is in this game
Monster has done a huge contribution to SNK success.
>>342701283
nice, too nice
>>342701251
yeah I read that, but I'm still curious about details. They mention knowledge (presumably lack thereof?) and money, but as I mentioned, the engine is free and everyone knows how to use it
>>342701283
>It being free is great for smaller developers, but for a bigger team like SNK it's going to be more financially viable to do what they're doing
aren't we seeing exactly the opposite? Huge devs like Namco, Square and Capcom are all moving to licensed engines (specifically UE4) because it's easier and cheaper
Square had a hard time with their clunky Luminous engine (so the FF7 remake is using UE4) and Capcom seems to have completely dropped their Phanta Rei in favor of UE4 and even Unity
>>342701716
>Phanta Rei
was it from SF4 development
>>342701716
>Huge devs like Namco, Square and Capcom are all moving to licensed engines (specifically UE4) because it's easier and cheaper
I don't know about the specifics behind Square and Namco, but Capcom went UE4 specifically BECAUSE they do not have long term plans anymore. Think about Capcom's history, they ran MT Framework for over a decade and used it in TONS of shit because it was so good for them. Then they dropped it because they wanted to make a NEW engine to replace it, Panta Rhei. Thing is, development of that started to take too long and the only game planned to use it is Deep Down which at this point might as well be abandonware. Capcom doesn't give a fuck, they don't even keep an art team on staff anymore because they don't make games like that. Everything in SFV was outsourced. Their goals are very different from that of SNK.
For Square with the insanely massive scope of their games, I could see them also being very reliant on outsourcing to actually get their shit made, and if you plan on outsourcing, having a common engine with tons of documentation is vastly preferable. Also a very different goal to SNK's in house development.
>>342631689
Cow Ralf always creeps me out and Heidern Leona is always a qt
>>342701998
no, that was MT framework
godly engine btw. I swear you could run their games on literal potatoes at 60fps
>>342702373
Heidern Leona would be a fun DLC outfit
Though I'm sure they would bring back her classic outfit before that
>>342702003
I thought Japanese devs made it a point to shy away from Western engines and tools. It's why you don't see many, if any, Japanese fighters using GGPO.
>>342703109
they don't bother using GGPO because they generally only think about the japanese player base so it wouldn't make a difference. It's a small country and connections are very good so their delay based netcode works perfectly fine to the point arcade cabinets are all online and do fine
>>342691374
https://discord.gg/0mDIyC5HmtsWWdRe
>>342703958
>Link has expired
What
Why
I'm so ready for KOF. I want SNK to succeed.
>>342699096
Buriki Two with christmas cake Yuri would be awesome.
Will the new game just be for PS4? I do have one in my household, but none of my friends own one.
Bump
>>342705943
It'll probably get a PC release down the line like everything else does nowadays, but for now yeah PS4 only.
He actually did it, the absolute madman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KShvPid8ezc
>>342706460
Mai looks really cool in this one
>>342701251
>money
UE4 is fucking free to use
behemoth-senpai didnt notice me yesterday uguuu ;_;
>>342707836eh...who?
>>342707836
He'll notice you one day. I think he noticed me once before.
>>342708371
thank you, i hope so too.
>>342680030
It's possible to flesh out Mai a bit, the game's medium is just a tricky way to do so, especially when the KoF status quot is kinda stuck in time:
http://dreamcancel.com/2015/06/29/exploring-kof-xiii-dialogues-mai-and-the-shiranui-legacy/
>>342706460
Nakoruru does not look fun to fight against in this one
>>342699096
>The rise of a new golden era for SNK
What a time to be alive! I wonder if will also get some new franchises between the revival of old ones?
>>342712534
>liru released
>kotaku is kill
>snk back to gold old days
2016 best year
>he still can't do deadly rave
>>342631082
>Well, Falcoon is gay so...?
He is? Now I understand why he wanted to be a fashion designer.
>>342713916
>pretzels are gone in XIVthis pic is one of my favorites
>>342699096
>>342712534
It's too early to be talking about other franchises. We don't even know if this game is gonna be a success(it looks fun though)
>>342715180
I want to believe anon.
They escaped pachinko hell already, that alone is like a miracle and a good start.