>be bad at a game
>decide to cheat
>"its for le lolz XD"
>get banned
>h-hahaha I-i dont care anyways ;(
>I-i can make an another a-account anyways
What do you guys think of cheating in general?
>>342616984
>What do you guys think of cheating in general?
I don't see the point of it in multiplayer games. It's not fun for me to beat people just because I used a wall, aim, or trigger bot.
>>342617176
Some stories I've read, people who go out of their way to buy multiple accounts and cheating software just like the idea of beating the shit out of people for a while before getting banned, only to switch accounts and keep going.
Cheating in single player games? I don't see any problem with it because you aren't impacting anyone elses fun.
Cheating in multiplayer against other players? All you're doing is admitting you're both trash AND lazy. There's nothing more satisfying than watching a hacker get banned.
>>342617381
>just like the idea of beating the shit out of people for a while before getting banned
These people must be dead inside.
Cheated once, felt dumb, got banned, never again.
Of course, I didn't do it for the stats and kills, but rather to make satirical plays and a humorous environment for people in game and the friends I was playing with at the time - I wouldn't want to cheat just to get to the top of the scoreboard thats fucking autistic.
I guess if you want to see people salty?
>>342617842
*shrug*
From what I understand, they see that as more "fun" than just regularly playing the game.
When I mention games, I am specifically talking broadly, like cheating in Battlefield 4, a game with -no competitive scene-
Never did it. Seems kind of pointless to me.
>>342616984
buy a radar hack. do better without it. Hacks are literally useless for me.
>>342617994
Oh, they're having fun cheating? Well here's a guide for you.
>Adult
Has fun without trying to ruin the fun of others.
>Child/Teenager/Manchild
All that matters to him is whether he has fun. How other people feel doesn't matter.
>>342616984
>What do you guys think of cheating in general?
in my experience (TF2), a lot of the cheaters are kids who do so in order to keep up with older, better players. The occasional Sniper cheater pops up because he wants to be a 1337 5n1p3r but sucks so he uses aimbot.
>>342616984
>6 years ago, playing MW2
>start hosting matches where everyone could jump 30 feet in the air, and one kill gave you enough experience to go from level 1 to 70
>get banned
>that shit will stain my account forever
Feels bad.
>>342618160
I don't agree with them bruh, I'm just throwing in what I've read/heard. Some of these stories came from people who make enough money from their 8-5 day jobs and just do it knowing the repercussions won't really affect them.
>>342618281
Exact same thing happened to me
I feel you bro
>>342616984
Used to hack AvP2, swapping ammo types and all sorts of other shenanigans, killing people while locked in free fly, decapitating everyone in the server instantly with 1 swing of the knife. was always hilarious to watch dumb kids sperg out and cry, telling you they were calling the FBI if you didn't stop.
Good times.
>>342618281
>>342618497
>tfw alterIWnet died
By far the most fun i've had with CoD ever.
>>34261825
Wasn't there a bunch of top tier TF2 players that got vac banned recently?
>>342618552
>telling you they were calling the FBI if you didn't stop.
Thats some top tier keks
>>342616984
I don't ever see much point to cheating for anything other than convenience i.e. to skip a tedious, long, repetitive task such as Pokemon breeding.
Cheating to win doesn't feel like winning.
>it was an INTENTIONAL decision
Fuck the broken ass VAC system and fuck mw2 while i'm at it.
Stupid fucking game, bought it for 12€ and the same day got banned for playing with hackers without any choice, now i can't even play the god damn game
>>342618571
AlterIW was some good shit mayne.
But the most fun I had in CoD was still with CoD4.
My friends and I being like 17 thinking we were so pro, owning the servers and getting kicked for "hacking" because the ofhers sucked.
There was this one server called The Fighting Irish, all of those guys were so bad despite playing it all day. We would play on there, get temp banned for a week or so, then returned to see how fast we could get banned again.
Good times
>>342618825
>dat zombie mode where the ''zombies'' where just players with the sniper character model and a USP with knife
>all those extra bits of maps made with hundreds of carepackages
>>342617994
>*shrug*
fucking kill yourself
I never cheat in online games and I'll go one step further.
When I play any game for the first time, I don't even want people to give me advice. The most fun I have with games is coming up with strategies on my own. If I so happen to stumble upon the most OP shit that people were going to tell me anyways, I take pride in my ability to figure shit out and find the most optimal abilities in a game.
I have this mentality with card games as well. I always make my own decks in every trading card game that I play. People who netdeck in card games are pathetic.
>>342618873
I wonder what that guy hoped to accomplish by writing that
even if its all 100% serious, even if he really wanted to get caught and what not the way its written it comes of like a childish attempt to go "I didn't care about that thing anyways"
>>342618898
Kids don't know halo 2 invented zombies
>>342618873
How much is that stuff worth he's got? How much was it worth when i got the Vac ban?
>>342617994
Woah
*teleports behind you*
Heh, nothing personnel, KID!
>>342619062
Are you me? The best is when you make the one thing everyone thought was shit work cause you're too stubborn to care for opinions
>>342618873
kek how will he ever recover?
>>342619062
depends on the type of card game
plenty of games require some sort of successful deck in order to gain currency and then spend said currency to gain more cards
there's nothing wrong with netdecking to be able to get the more interesting cards efficiently given you're already playing at a major disadvantage
>>342618898
Aw man, I totally forgot about that. That shit could get really intense
Other things that come to mind
>people going out of bounds or unreachable places in maps
>people raging in chat about using nade launcher
>people raging about "abusing" the knive
>people raging about all kinds of shit being OP
>ninja defusing in S&D
>sniping niggas on the SAS side of Pipeline, abusing the map imbalance
>people raging in general
>>342617994
*unzips dick*
BACK THE FUCK OFF!?!?!?!?!?
>>342619249
Good man, never stray away from this mentality.
>>342619190
some of the most expensive items in the game from the looks of it
easily a couple grand but i cant be sure with the fucked up prices tf2 has nowadays
I don't see a problem in cheating in single player games. But it is not tolerable in a multiplayer game.
>>342619190
around 20.000 dollars
>mfw cheaters in overwatch get permabanned from one strike and any new accounts they make even buying the game again are automatically banned again
>>342619484
fucking hilarious
>>342619686
that hat is only 20 bucks? thats not that big of a deal
>>342616984
I literally haven't cheated since IDKFA in doom. I feel like I am wasting my time the second I cheat in a game. It instantly makes the game boring in my head
>>342616984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btslv172ceg
>>342619784
If only every service had that.
>>342619784
How do they know its them
It can be pretty fun in singleplayer or co-op, multiplayer cheating is cancer though.
>>342619784
That's incredible.
I might actually play Overwatch because of this.
This is the father
>>342619190
>>342619784
>cheaters try anyways thinking they can outsmart blizzard
>the same guys with literally decades worth of experience with cheaters
>>342618160
>Has fun without trying to ruin the fun of others.
>All that matters to him is whether he has fun. How other people feel doesn't matter.
I don't see the difference, anon.
I can't understand how much of a bitch one has to be to cheat in multiplayer games.
I cheated a bit in dark souls 2, but all I did was stupid shit like invading people and naming myself Muhammad and blowing myself up with a custom pyromancy, then ascending into the skybox until the game killed me
>>342619895
Guess hardware serial numbers. There is only one CPU with that one serial number in existence, so if they see that somebody hacked on a computer using that CPU they will ban the person using it.
So if they want to cheat they will have to buy a new motherboard and shit.
>>342619895
No clue maybe it flags something hardware related like the motherboard? people try using new ip's and all that and they still end up banned, I remember reading a forum post that a guy used brand new hard drives and still ended up banned within a day
>>342620156
Haha woooow what an idiot.
>>342620247
so if a cheater sells their used hardware they get the buyer banned from their overwatch accounts bahahahah
>>342616984
I avoid cheating and others who cheat like the plague, since the one game I play with consequences for cheating is something with only permabans and I don't want to get banned.
I've always wanted to make myself unbannable/unmuteable in tf2 and micspam shitty servers.
Am I gag
>>342619895
I don't think they care. It is a tactic. They (maybe unjustly) ban a ton of people, word gets out, makes people afraid to cheat, cheating stops. The whole thing is a deterrent tactic. They are willing to break a few eggs to make an omelette, since the precious "esports" dollars are at stake. Just be thankful that for once Activision's jewery is aligned with the best interest of the player base
>>342620406
I'd imagine they look at the IP range too. If they see the computer is being used on an entirely new ISP or something I think the person would be fine.
>>342620247
>they will have to buy a new motherboard and shit
or you run the game in a virtual machine where you can spoof the hardware ID of everything in your computer
>>342620458
Don't you have a nost thread to be crying in?
>>342620464
so all a cheater has to do is change their isp LMAO
>>342620556
what is nost?
>>342616984
High risk high reward. If you play a video game without cheat you're just wasting your time on a skinnerbox. By cheating, you are playing on a level that's a step above the other plebs. There's more adrenaline and reward to it. Non-cheaters are either too stupid to cheat and don't know where to find hacks or they're just too pussy to risk anything and try to justify it on muh morals muh git gud
>>342620556
What does a defunct private server has to do with overwatch, you mongoloid ?
>>342620601
No? It's been proven multiple times that doesn't work
>>342620601
Which is really impractical, and if they get caught cheating on that ISP they're fucked if there isn't another in town.
>>342620545
if it was that easy half the WoW players would be cheating
they're not so it clearly aint
If people can pay to win, why can't I cheat to win? No issue with cheating when other players can buy dlc with the best items in game.
>get totally caught using an aimbot in cs:s by my own team and the enemy team when doing a 180 couched headshot as the last terrorist alive.
>never get a VAC ban
>mfw all that drama
its not like ive put more than 2 hours into any online PvP and i never hacked since but the reaction was kinda funny.
>>342616984
I would if I could, but I can't so I don't.
Only Russians cheat because their lives are shit because they are Russian.
>>342620653
This Russian just speaks English really well.
I do not give a shit what people do in singleplayer. A lot of times people shit for QoL reasons. Like using a trainer for SFV survival mode? Yeah, go ahead. That's bullshit anyways. If you want to fly around and never lose in other games, more power to you.
But I do not condone it in multiplayer games. Occasionally you'll see someone using cheats in a funny way or to actually try and enhance the other players' experience, but that's like a drop of fresh water in an ocean of baby piss. The most pathetic of all are cheaters in competitive games. Why even use cheats in a fighting game vs somebody else?
>>342620745
How about you stop playing shit games?
>>342617176
Really that's all you can do. Lame as fuck.
>>342620745
If the game is pay to win feel free to cheat in it because it is a pile of shit. I used to aimbot and speedhack in Combat Arms just to see all the kiddies with their overpowered sniper rifles get pissed.
I love it when cheaters go a post-ban temper tantrum on forums (or here, ugh), acting like the unspeakable act of banning people who ruin the game for everyone else is somehow ruining the game. And THAT'S the one thing which will be the death of the game.
>>342621075
They're entitled little shits.
>>342620708
>WoW players
>intelligent
pick one
>>342616984
>Play cs since it got birthed into existence
>Use weapon skins because it's fun
>Have alien pulse rifle for AK47
>Steam is born
>We CS1.6 now
>Get banned for using skins
>Have VAC ban which is over 3000+ days old
>Still get called hacker in CS:GO circa 12 years later
>mfw
Can't people see how old the ban is are they just retarded?
>>342621285
You were a lucky early beta tester, they jelly :^)
>>342620842
well said
>>342621386
I guess, also if I recall correctly it didn't show up publicly on profile as it does now.
>>342621075
This, delicious tears on Steam forum are always great after a massive wave of cheaters gets cleaned up every so often.
Haven't come accross many hackers in ranked but in casual i reported quite a few, when I log in the next day it shows often a message saying "a person you reported has been banned"
I imagine some butthurt slav yelling BYLAT at his screen in return
>>342616984
It's retarded, but honestly they could make dedicated cheat servers to let the spergs get the sperginess out of their systems,
>>342621285
thats for playing this shit game m8.
>Play CS:GO
>Be Global Elite
>Competive match
>Enemy has a russian with 300 hrs
>Oh boy here we go.jpg
>the russian prefires like hell and knows
>Be first to notice
>Others in my team notices as well
>Switch tactics, go where he is not
>Go behind him, he cant see there
>Win many rounds
>He starts to hackusate us
>Laugh
>Win
>The russian is soon banned
>neo/v/ has sunk this low
Let me guess, griefing videos are extremely problematic now instead of good fun?
>>342621786
Why is it always russians?
Not even br are so fucking stupid anymore
>>342621975
chalk it up to the tryhard CS shitters, they ruin everything with their "VIDYA GAEM IS SUPR SRS BIZNIZ >;(" attitudes
>>342621975
>needing hacks to grief
smalltime.jpg
>>342616984
Rust is awful with this shit because you can have a VAC ban and still play, but you can't advertise your CS:GO account if it has a VAC ban.
https://www.reddit.com/r/playrustlfg/comments/4pnpyw/hacker_looking_for_chill_grouppeople_to_play_with/
This shit is fucking cancer, 1/4 of all these posts lead to a VAC banned account.
>>342621975
/v/ was never ok with cheating anon
Griefing is ok when it's funny and not just malicious.
>>342621984
They are in Rust.
In Warcraft they're nothing but a crossrealm STD.
>>342621975
>man it sure does suck to have my game ruined by cheaters, I wish they could just play the game normally
>N-N-NEO /v/ Y-YOU JUST HATE FUN
>>342622282
>/v/ was never okay with cheating except that time where /v/ made hacks for tf2 as well as modern warfare 1 and 2 to shit on pub games
t. newfag
>>342621984
Well, there are many russians. But they also have many computer science experts as well. They also have long history of evil deeds in internet throught history, they have gained easy money that way.
>>342622282
Lots of griefers would cheat and record people sperging out at them over cheating. Would you consider this something /v/ was never ok with?
>>342616984
Cheating is okay if it's singleplayer. You're robbing yourself of the proper experience though, but you're not ruining anyone's fun but your own, so that's fine.
Cheating for multiplayer is unacceptable. You deserve to be permanently banned and given one single chance to appeal the ban, but if you fail, perma banned forever.
I used to cheat all the time in puzzle and dragons because fuck mobage
>>342618825
>>342618571
AlterIW (MW2 and MW3) was a botnet.
https://teknogods.com/?p=732
Do some of you remember the clan ~Angels?
>>342622604
I want to date you.
You sound sensible.
>>342622604
>Cheating for multiplayer is unacceptable
why are you on /v/ then, who is known for trolling games with hacks "for the lulz"?
>Blizzard will auto-ban you if they suspect you've cheated on a previous account
>neo/v/ thinks this is "based"
>They don't see the problem with banning an account based on a pretty loose connection to a cheater's account
>They get so fucking triggered by griefers, who old /v/ thought were hilarious goofsters, that they demand draconian punishments because someone is enjoying a game that is problematic
Hello tumblr
>>342621975
I agree with that other anon
>needing hacks to grief
The best griefing videos I've seen are based stgggs and he didn't need shit for those
>>342622946
Playing with friends and getting banned is no reason to get pissed off.
If you're by yourself, and you wan ted to get to the end faster, or find some of the extra stuff in the game using hacks, it stands to reason that cheating is a worthwhile pursuit.
>>342622968
If you have played 4000 hrs Counter Strike, you can't find cheaters or griefers any fun.
>>342616984
you cheat you get punished its as simple as that. people need to stop tying to spew bullshit in order to justify it
>it was only one time!
>I was young and foolish!
>other people were doing it!
on the other hand valve needs to stop being faggots an interfering with community servers and their preferences.
>>342623071
stgggs cheated in multiple videos you fucking joke of a human being
>>342623173
Which ones?
>>342620162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHeSHT2ZDnU
lmao
>SC:BW
massive hacking, blizzard does little to nothing.
>WC3
massive hacking, blizzard does little to nothing.
>WoW
massive hacking, blizzard does little to nothing.
>SC2
massive hacking, blizzard does little to nothing.
>D3
massive hacking, blizzard does little to nothing.
>Overwatch
"cu_k"
>>342623152
>If you have played 4000 hrs Counter Strike
Why would anyone do this to themselves?
Always cheat in single player games, never cheat online.
>>342616984
I don't cheat but I don't have a problem with it.
Cheaters are people too!
>>342618281
I don't see what's wrong with any of that...
>people are defending cheating
And I thought /v/ wasn't supposed to be casual
>>342623363
CS is serious business :D
>>342623372
Literally no problem with it in single player. If people can't be assed then that's their prerogative.
>>342623326
All of the jay owen videos at the very least, I need to hope I can find a source of reuploads if you want specific video names.
>>342620245
That's hilarious though.
>>342616984
we already had this thread an hour or so ago
Back when MW2 was the newest, I went through 6 or so copies of MW2 with mom's credit card because I couldn't stop aimbotting and making modded lobbies. It was tons of fun and I had a blast with my friend who also was the same age (15ish?) cheating as well.
Now that I'm 22 I think cheating is dumb as fuck and I hate everyone and anyone who does it for a multiplayer advantage.
Dunno if there's any World of Tanks players in here but a number of the top US clans I believe were caught out cheating. I can see why they'd do it, especially for tournaments where there's the possibility of earning shit they'd otherwise have to pay for.
>that one guy who wrote a cheat for Tribes:Ascend that fired like ten sniper shots a second at everybody on the map
Sometimes cheats are hilarious. Wish I could find the video on Youtube.
>>342623602
"P-problematic! Valve should never let you play an online game again for your ENTIRE FUCKING LIFE unless you suck the valve dick and buy another copy of all of your games!!!!! How DARE you have fun in a manner that I don't approve of."
-neo/v/
>>342618281
>one kill gave you enough experience to go from level 1 to 70
and thats why you idiot
>>342623752
>that BC2 cheat that would calculate bullet drop and lead headshots on people across the map with the AA gun
>>342623756
No one said that kind of shit though you sperg, people are complaining about people just being assholes
Cheating can be funny when the guy clearly doesn't care and is just doing it for reactions. (See: GoronCity, myg0t, mordX when he isn't shilling here)
It's pretty easy to tell when someone's just being a cunt, though.I still laugh my ass off whenever someone uses a spinbot on multiplayer. It's so goddamn hilarious.
>>342620197
Then that post is for you apparently,
>>342624003
neo/v/ roots for blizzard and valve to ban cheaters based on specious evidence with 0 chance to appeal
>>342623752
>Max payne 3 multi
>survivor mode where each team has limited lives
>Both teams have a hacker with invincibility and unlimited ammo grenade launcher
>Watch them both spamming nades at eachother ragdolling all over the map
Shit was pretty funny.Wish mp3 multi wasnt dead ;_;
>>342622946
since when?
>>342621975
>>342622168
Calm down Conrad
Never actually cheated myself, but I did benefit from it. It's practically impossible not to if you played Diablo 2.
>>342616984
Anyone who cheats in multiplayer servers is a scumbag.
Only exception is if everyone else has cheats too.
>>342624732
Did you find hacked items or something?
![1982-toyota-supra-generat-17_1600x0w[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/25nvAn4.jpg "1982-toyota-supra-generat-17_1600x0w[1].jpg")
cheating is fun and its funny
nobody cares about ethics, its a video game
>>342624261
>specious
Except you know overwatch only has footage of every game you play, but I'm sure you think blizzard edits it themselves to make it look like they're cheating right? Oh also say neo /v/ a couple more times for good measure I don't think you've said it enough
>>342624732
>build almost perfect grief
>try to sell it
>"that's duped you cheater!"
>>342624971
That's no Trueno AE87!
You take that shit 'round back!
>>342624886
Hacked items were pretty rare. It was more about botted runes. Almost every high rune circulating bnet was botted.
>>342624998
So the blizzard example is that hackers have reported to be immediately banned even when creating a new account with a new computer, email, credit card, etc.
False positives have also been reported. People are being banned for "hacking" when they haven't done anything of the sort. The community is behind the customer, until blizzard just goes "b-but you hacked on a previous account" and the redditors here turn into corporate shills.
>>342625306
That's such shit.
I hate finding stuff like that, I play the game for the authentic experience and players have a direct impact on how I enjoy the content in such meaningful ways.
>>342624248
>Then that post is for you apparently,
I'm ruining people's fun just by playing normally, yet i don't care about their hemorrhoids.
What does that make me, a manchild or an adult ?
>>342625393
You really like buzzwords don't you?
>>342625581
Way to respond to my argument with valid points.
I'll bite, what buzzwords?
ama
>>342625452
you think you're important enough to use a name on 4chan without providing original content? Filtered!
Either produce good OC like 3 Angled Blue did with his series of pic related comics, or stay anonymous.
Closet cheaters should kill themselves. People who cheat and act like they're legit.
>>342626057
what
>>342616984
in single player I try to beat a game in normal mode no cheating first off. After that it depends. I usually try to ramp up the difficulty but I may do some cheating like max $ to minimize tedious grinding.for me, I hate when I go to a new town in an RPG but can't afford shit. yes, sometimes you find the same items or better in the next dungeon, but, I love that feel of walking into a new town and getting full new sets of gear for all my characters.
How does everyone here view using Cheat Engine after you've beaten a game to dick around as a psuedo-debug mode? Like how in games back in the day you beat the game once or twice and it enabled Cheat Mode to do crazy shit or just to noclip out of maps and find all kinds of the hidden shit and cut-for-time stuff that was still on the cart/disc? Cause that's the kind of shit I use it for, pretty much only in single player games.
>>342627009
heres a little tip: true oldfags who showed up in 2003-2004 dont give a fuck about cheats outside of a competitive environment, whether online or offline, because we used to use them to grief people constantly. cheat all you want. ruin online pub games, harvest those tears. anyone who says "hurr cheating is bad and wrong" is a newfag who wasnt here in 4chan's first year.
i cheat on single player atfer i have finished the game, becuase its fun,, but i never have cheated on multiplayer because that its cancer.
>>342627009
Why the fuck not. Cheating in SP is your own choice. I also have a rule to do it only in games I've beaten though.
>>342627143
>anyone who says "hurr cheating is bad and wrong" is a newfag who wasnt here in 4chan's first year
Hell, I didn't get here until 2007 and /v/ had this attitude for my first several years here. It's only recently that I've been seeing people acting like game devs are "based" for doing completely unthinkable things to cheaters. We used to be pro-consumer and anti-corporation here. When did that change?
>>342616984
i don't care
>>342616984
>Single Player
Perfectly fine, do whatever.
>Multiplayer
Fine only if everyone in the current lobby or whatever is doing it in good fun. Using them in regular gameplay is just nigger tier.
>>342627193
>>342627189
What ever happened to unlockable cheat codes in SP games?
Play normally, unlock cheats along the way, beat it and play again with a bunch of wacky shit on.
>>342627321
>post-habbo shitter
please leave and don't come back. the only way to restore 4chan to its former glory is to kick out everyone who showed up after habbo hotel.
I used to cheat ALL THE DAMN TIME in single player games, first with a Gameshark, and then after coming to PC I even indeed bought a lifetime account on CheatHappens because of that.
The habit has died down in the last five years or so though, when I realized that proper game progression can be more rewarding than having max level and all abilities from the get go.
I'm not above still cheating in certain games I want to play mostly for the story though.
>>342616984
I cheat when I'm bored with the game, like I did with insurgency
I buy each game with a different account when its multiplayer so I don't give a fuck
>>342623326
Neo Tokyo ones.
>>342627441
"Here" being /v/, not 4chan in general. Wasn't /v/ still fairly new in early 2007?
>>342627705
No.
Fuck, god damn it. Of course not, come on.
>>342627537
>not feeding the beast
I get loadsa fun out Cheat Engine, making clean tables and trainers.
I've made a point to go back and re-install all my favorites just to make my own cheats for them.
It's like a whole new layer of joyous opportunity.
>>342619484
>Dick has a zipper
>>342627705
uh, no, /v/ was made in 2004, roughly a year after 4chan was put online on october 1, 2003i am 99% sure i am the only 2003 4chan user left, moot and all the original staff are gone.
>>342627756
>>342627868
My bad, I guess I just didn't know of it until then. For some reason I thought it was a later addition than the original boards but I guess I'm wrong.
>>342627441
>everyone who showed up after Haboo Hotel
Nigger I wish these boards were still at the same level of general posting quality of the Habbo times, or indeed anything before the Advice Animals Disaster
There's clinging to the old times, and then there's clinging to the times that were already old when the old times weren't even here yet
>>342616984
Frequently used wall radar in csgo. I'm terrible at the game so I mostly just bought shitty guns and tanked my ranking and teammates. Also 80% deaf so I could never be good at it so I don't feel bad. It was the only online game I tried.
This is why I don't play multiplayer games, honestly.
Like, I understand WHY you need to ban cheaters, because it's unfair to others and ruins their experience
But it's my game and if I don't want to play it "right", that's my business. I shouldn't need the dev's permission, and I CERTAINLY shouldn't be punished for it.
>>342627189
I cheated just recently in Devil may Cry 4: Special Edition, but only to do Trish's Bloody Palace 'cause I died on stage eighty-five, five times in a row.
I know it's bad, but man did I ever want the achievement, and now that I have it I feel dirty.
>>342627857
>new is a fag
>>342628067
>But it's my game and if I don't want to play it "right", that's my business. I shouldn't need the dev's permission, and I CERTAINLY shouldn't be punished for it.
That EULA you accepted says you do you faggot.
>>342616984
I got falsely flagged from Nosgoth last year.
Never bothered to message Steam to fix it now the numbers are just pilling up and there's nothing I can do.
Not that anyone will ever believe me, but fuck siblings.
>>342628236
EULA's aren't legally binding and we all know it, shrink wrap agreements are almost never honored by courts, especially on products you can't easily refund.
But that's neither here nor there; even if a dev wouldn't ban me for cheating (or for fucking around doing stupid bullshit all match instead of playing properly) it would potentially ruin the game for other players and I don't want to do that.
So I only play SP games (or occasionally local/private games) so I can have fun how I see fit.
>>342628067
I understand this sentiment but at the same time that's what private servers are for.
Cheating for the lulz is okay
Cheating just to gain advantage over other players is not okay
Cheating in video games is so fucking dumb.
>Hahaha! Look guys! I "beat" the game! I got to the top because I think outside the box! Why waste time getting good at games when their is a more efficient alternative? Haha!
Cheating in video games just highlights how fucked up that person's priorities in life actually are. Video games are a waste of time, it's entertainment. Unlike cheating in stuff like gambling or sports you have absolutely nothing to gain out of it if you succeed.
You won't get money or glory, nobody cares that you won in a video game. All you've done is ruin everybody else's time.
If you're gonna cheat, cheat in something worthwhile.
>>342619784
>>342619895
>>342620247
Most probably they trace the MAC address, I worked as a support on Planetside 2 and there was something called "Soulmark" if i remember correctly, it was a combination of things including the MAC address which made sure if the banned person comes back with another account they'd get banned again, it's easily avoidable as soon as you figure out what sort of information they trace, so i guess it's only a matter of time.
>>342627393
seems like GTA 5 its the last one (or recent) game that has cheats on SP.
it looks like that tradition has been lost whether Japanase o Western Games.that is sad
>>342628426
True, but private servers are hard work, and I'd rather just not play multiplayer games period
>>342628476
>You won't get money or glory, nobody cares that you won in a video game
this is so untrue
the winners of the dota 2 international last year made over a million dollars for each member on the team, and the entire dota world was shaken up because USA had never won a championship
>>342628569
Well, there you go.
>>342628420
That's a sensible position Anon, but I'd like to add that at least the clause of "don't cheat or you get kicked" for multiplayer games IS legally binding when it comes to enforcing the server team's right to restrict you access to the product.
For single player games it's far more murky though, the sort of thing you'd have at least a basic case to stand up in court with, at least in SOME legal systems.
>>342616984
cut their right hand
>>342628097
i once did that too, but i never wanted to do that again becuase i felt dirty and really dissapointed to myself
>>342622604
>You're robbing yourself of the proper experience though
I disagree. Sometimes the proper experience isn't fun, when the game requires you to do the same thing many times. For instance, I cheated to give myself enough money in Way of the Samurai 4 to get a good sword, something that takes 10-15 hours of gameplay otherwise. Without that sword, every other part of the game takes 3-4 times as long, if doable at all. And sure, I could experience it the proper way, but literally the only difference is how many times I walk down the same path, how many times I have to swing my sword at a random dude that has no bearing on the plot, and how many times I have to talk to the same people over and over.
>>342628476
Why do you fags keep assuming people cheat for a sense of superiority? What ever happened to /v/ laughing together as one about people sperging out in online games?
Griefers cheat to provoke THAT reaction from people. It's legitimately hilarious when people take their casual online game so seriously that the thought of a cheaters drives them into autismal fury.
Oh wait, the reason that everyone here is rallying against cheaters is probably because they are likely to be the ones providing the cringy overreactions...
My only real experience with hackers was in Dark Souls and the people who used them were usually really, really bad at the game.
>>342619836
No, twenty thousand
>>342622267
yikes
>>342629194
>have to be rank 3 in csgo to play comp
at least we have the gmod sperglords
>>342621984
Thanks to their shit economy games are cheaper so they can just get banned, open a new account and rebuy the game with money meant to buy their week supply of maggoty bread.
>>342622968
>let little brother or friend use your computer
>he logs into his Overwatch and decides to try cheating
>gets himself banned
>a few days later you log into your own Overwatch account and try to play
>immediately banned
I have never cheated once in multiplayer game it just seems pointless.
I don't have problem with cheaters if they are just doing silly stuff like this.
>>342629194
>Oh wait, the reason that everyone here is rallying against cheaters is probably because they are likely to be the ones providing the cringy overreactions...
I just want to play video games for fun Anon. The only person having fun with hackers is the one doing the hacking unless it's one of those group lobbies like in Halo 2 where everyone got the modded shit. People want to cheat that's fine, but don't expect to get away with it or have me be sorry you got banned.
>>342622267
Redpill me on Rust so I don't waste ten dollars on it.
>>342620247
>>342620273
>buy a used computer
>buy overwatch
>Get banned
wew
>>342629886
Amazing game overrun with toxic meme trollers, cheaters are common (most you won't even notice), look for VAC bans on profiles (they appear even if private). People with multiple accounts are common, devs are now going to block multiple accounts from the same IP if they one was banned via RUST.
>>342620162
The same developers where I played against some guy virtual machining 20 shamans in Alterac Valley for FOUR FUCKING YEARS
>>342630123
>People with multiple accounts are common, devs are now going to block multiple accounts from the same IP if they one was banned via RUST.
Sounds rad, they should have done that years ago.
>>342622968
>based on a pretty loose connection
How do you know? We have no idea what criteria they use.
>>342629727
>I shouldn't be responsible for the software that runs on my hardware
Nah, fuck off. I'd rather have a few innocent retards banned than a lenient policy against cheaters.
If you're cheating in a game with leaderboards you deserve to be tortured for several months.
>>342630313
They don't have the time/money to do anything remotely as advanced as what Blizzard is doing, but it's better than nothing.
Especially after a sale.
this is also why it's assumed you can't gift CS:GO if it's bought during this sale, it's to hurt reselling and smurfs/cheaters stocking up on copies.
>put down my sign
>drop +40 estoc to host
>bail
>>342630663
>Don't have time/money
Rust sold pretty well though, hasn't it? Especially for a 'beta' that's been in development for like three-four years. Garry mad fat band on GMOD10 as well.
If you cheat in multiplayer games you need to just stop playing games in general. You are a cancer and need to remove yourself.
>>342630409
>>I shouldn't be responsible for the software that runs on my hardware
>Nah, fuck off. I'd rather have a few innocent retards banned than a lenient policy against cheaters.
>>342629886
literally the same as all the other survival sandbox shooters
>>342618873
this guy makes me cringe so fucking hard
he fucking writes a giant wall of text to explain how he is not retarded for losing 20k usd worth of items because he wanted to quit his addiction
fucking hell this fucking idiot
>>342630950
Except it's the best looking and least clunky.
>>342616984
I dont get it unless your making money as a top CS pro or something like that. Theres no joy in a win that comes from cheating. Its purely for people with no sense on competition or drive to be a winner
>>342617403
No, the most satisfying thing is killing the hacker by outsmarting them, etc.
ie: Dark Souls where you would have a hacker and still kill them by pushing them off a ledge.
>>342630950
>>342630991
Best sound design too, high fidelity audio, etc.
It's incredibly immersive if you aren't listening to a bunch of retards in a VoIP
>>342616984
Singleplayer to fuck around? Cool beans.
Otherwise you are small time.
>>342616984
Well personally I only cheat in singleplayer games when I know it would take too much time to do something normally. Like I won't cheat for infinite resources or something in an RTS game, but there are times in an RPG where I just don't feel like bothering with the level grind.
Though that's mostly only when I've already played the game on console or something, and I happened to feel like replaying it on PC.
>>342631143
Reminds me of "Lawnmower" attack spam stuff in Gunz, you could still flip them into pits if you timed it right as they jumped on you.
>>342616984
I think you are pretty triggered dude lmao
>>342630179
Multiboxing automation software is allowed. :^)
>>342616984
I always avoid people with bans on their account. They are always a piece of shit weird autismo nerd; every time.
>>342622946
For the lulz was /b/ you dumb fucking nigger faggot, go kill yourself and reincarnate into Reddit
I find it funny. Seeing people rage at aimhacks is funny as hell. You all need to chill.
All these "you suck, get a life" etc counter arguments also make my day.
For example, I have a main account for CSGO, no hacks, Supreme.
I have another account that hacks. I do it because I know their reactions will be priceless. I believe that account is at DMG level right now.I'll happily carry you guys
>>342616984
>Though not within my scope of interests I think it should be possible for people to cheat in a space that allows it. Likewise, I'd enjoy playing games against cheaters just to see if I could beat them, if it was my choice to engage them.
>when anti cheat shit makes it so we cannot mod our games like using the first person mod in dark souls 3 in fear of being banned for it, then that's shit.
>Glitching is not cheating. I think a lot of glitches make games interesting to dick around in and I enjoy trying them out.
>A vac ban was given to me 10 years ago for doing a skywalking glitch in a random cs1.6 server with like 3 people in it, of which 1 was smoking some dank weed at the time, which I think is ridiculous. I will never get rid of it, like I'm some kind of sex offender that needs to be branded.
>>342618160
And then there's people like you who feel that others are responsible for how you feel.
>>342632616
>low brow humor
Let me take a big guess, you also like super hero movies.
>>342616984
I use cheat engine in games sometimes, usually in compile heart games. But other than that I really don't see the point in cheating.
You play games to have fun, sure some people have fun cheating their way through the game, but I feel like it really gimps the experience
CCheating in multiplayer games is just a thing cunts do when they enjoy ruining other people's good time, can't say i feel bad for people who are harshly punished for it.
>>342618873
INTENTIONAL
>>342616984
I made a pretty good runescape bot, back in 2008-2009,right as the game turned to shit.
I was a shitty student programmer at the time, so my technique probably wasn't optimal. But what I did is I grabbed a low res screenshot of the game, and used a blob detector / color recognition script to automatically find elements in the game like trees and fishing spots. For this I think I used openCV.
Getting back to the bank was the most difficult part, honestly, I ended up using the minimap for localization and mapping.
Never got busted though.
>>342632616
>Ruin people's games
>lol chill dude
People get mad because you're wasting their time and they can't leave or they get a cooldown. Time is the most precious resource.
>>342616984
For character action games some cheats help tremendously in finding new tricks and practicing them. Practicing dmc4 would be hell without infinite enemy hp and no timer.
likewise I found dozens of tricks in dishonored which I only play with infinite mana and gadgets
>>342633137
Just because I take pleasure in making competitive fags salty doesn't mean that's the only sort of humor I engage in, or that I find find no other intellectual interest. That's a funny counter argument though, made me giggle.
I downloaded a trainer for Payday 2 in order to get all the DLC weapons and shit
Does that count?
>>342633473
Oh, and random event were a fucking bitch to deal with.
>>342633518
>waste their time
I carry almost half the people in the game.
The other half could simply surrender if they were smart enough.
Your argument is invalid. I had an enemy team surrender on (if I remember correctly) the 3rd or 4th round. That's a couple minutes at most.
When I was a cunty kid I would go onto GMod DarkRP servers and use a lua aimbot I downloaded to gun down everyone repeatedly. I found it hilarious that I was ruining everyone else's good time. Luckily, I didn't get VAC banned.
>>342616984
>play ark official server
>chinese hackers try to wipe us
>we beat them and they get banned
>chant USA
Good times.
Stupid since you newer learn to get better at vidya if you rely on cheats all the time and most modern vidya will permanently disbar you from online play for even the slightest amount of cheating
>>342626246
>gay ass weeaboo with Le Smart Opinion xD!
Fucking kys
>>342633784
I don't blame you.
Fuck those darkRP kids.
Most of these kids are mods now too.
or worse, admins.
>>342633615
The fact that it's funny to you speaks volumes. You're a lot less clever than you think you are. I'm done replying to you.
>>342634319
All that means is I ran your bitch ass off lol.
>>342634319
I wasn't
>>342634468
Anyway. Are you seriously implying that because I find people being angry humorous, I'm less intelligent or clever? Where did I ever even imply that I considered myself more clever than the average person? Wow, your incredibly idiotic points might give me an aneurysm. You simply sound like someone who dealt with someone like me, got incredibly upset and still holds a grudge like a 3 year old.
>>342616984
>projecting this hard
