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So I bought Dragon Age: Inquisition during the E3 sale and I'm about to start it up for the first time. I'm not used to Western RPGs (Fallout: NV was my last one.) What should I know about this game beforehand to avoid headaches? Any problems I should be aware of or skills/quests I should avoid?
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well, that the first 10-12 hours are easily the worst in the whole 100h game.
Also when on that the strategy table the time is you real time, it passes even if the game is turned off, which I think is a nice feature adding a bit of muh immershun
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>>342613554
Don't play on high difficulty
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>>342613993
Why not?

>>342613795
What's wrong with the first 10-12 hours? Too much prologue stuff, I'm guess?
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You haven't played Dragon Age Origins? Not only is that a better game, you'll get way more enjoyment out of Inquisition once you're done
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>>342614383
>Why not?
The follower AI is pretty dumb and higher difficulties just increase the foes' hp and damage, making it a chore to play. It also makes a lot of builds pretty useless
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>>342614487
Unfortunately not. Hate to admit it, but I stopped playing WRPG's after Fallout NV. Never been big on the genre, but with the sale going on, I looked up some reviews and decided to make a leap. That said, I'm confused as fuck as to who and what all these people and places are.

>>342614684
So what should I do if I still want a challenge?
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>>342614383
yeah, prologue-y low level shit, collecting some berries and blankets and shit. It picks up the pace noticeably after that mission when you choose between two factions to ally with.
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>>342614961
>So what should I do if I still want a challenge?
Just try it out on nightmare and see if it doesn't bore you
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>>342613554
If you want to solo the game, run a knight-enchanter.
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>>342613554
You should avoid the entire thing and get origins instead then pretend that the series ended after that
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>>342614961
origins are -75% on steam now, and they really worth the money. You can freely skip the DA2, it's an unbelievable shitfest
and the harder levels are not exactly a challenge, more of a tedium, even on normal some fights take fucking forever
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>>342615112
Which is like the most boring class
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>>342613554
Get some visual mods.
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>>342614961
>So what should I do if I still want a challenge?
not play this game.
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>>342615112

Don't listen to this guy since KE was nerfed. There has been a shit ton of patches since KE was OP.
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I'm at the ball. How close am I to being done?
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>>342613554
What the hell, did captain morgan come back for DA:I? What about her mutant baby?
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>>342614961

Turn on the trials. I'm not sure if those came with a patch or came with a DLC but they're basically modifiers that make game hard and give rewards based on chance after encounters. Stuff like enemies get more abilities, can't use healing potions, enemies always scale with you, halved exp, etc.
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>>342614961
I disagree with that guy about difficulty.
Only play on highest diff because the game is way too easy. It starts off as challenging, but you will be steamrolling everything by level 10 or so.
So, if you're terrible maybe start on hard or normal and as you level, increase the difficulty.
The AI is terrible, he's right, but the game is soloable after you get a few levels. All of the player character classes get so overpowered the game can't keep up.

If you want a challenge, play NM and get trespasser.
If you have trespasser it adds some difficulty variables that mix things up.
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My biggest advice is to completely skip all the optional sidequests. Not the story-kind, but the "go gather some herbs for this town" kind. Forget about closing extra rifts, hunting rare monsters, its just not well designed nor fun. Even Skyrims random quests were more interesting than this.

At first you will think that gathering power for your Inquisition is some big shit, but its actually just shit. Do the bare minimum required to keep the story going.

Re-iterating the difficulty, don't increase it. Its just tedious. There is no real "system mastery" that you could perform in old RPGs, which made you feel like a badass. The fights are simply just tedious after a while, and you will fight a lot of them.
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>>342615462
Yes, and it's a young boy now
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>>342615576
>morgan raising a son
jesus fuck no
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>>342613554
>to avoid headaches

Don't play it. The game is fucking horrible and no this isn't one of those anons giving an opinion haven't played the game. Played it and I wished I hadn't. It's like a single player mmo. Boring as fuck. Not to mention they fuck up the lore so bad it's not even funny.
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From what I can tell, Morrigan is the only worthwhile thing about DAI.
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So if I should be solo'ing the game after lvl 10, should I even ask who the best partners are?
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I'm so depressed at how horribly wrong the series went. The first game was solid and I got attached to it.
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>>342615710
Why would you solo the game? One of the things I liked about is running around with a group who talks to each other and stuff
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>>342615710
Cassandra, Varric, Solas
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>>342615779
Me too. I even bough that Collectors Edition guide with the artbook. I used to participate on the forums and talk about lore all morning. Awakenings was great too, then DA2 happened and it hurt
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>>342615689

She barely plays a role. Even Flemeth has more to do with the plot than Morrigan.
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>>342615710
Just turn down the difficulty and pick the partners you like
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>tfw they turned Leilana into an edge lord on par with Coldsteel

I fucking hate you Bioware
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>>342615710
Melee DPS are bad because too many enemy types do AE melee. It's frustrating on high difficulties and makes Cole and Bull totally worthless if you aren't controlling them.
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>>342613554
Best girl reporting in
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>>342616126
>girl
Really?
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>>342616126
But anon you've posted a man.
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Man, a lot of people seem disappointed/mad in this thread. What's so different about this game from to two or three before it that it makes you feel this way?
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>>342616192
Rude
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>>342616212
Origins was a good game. Not perfect like some people make it to be but it was good. Two was a fucking disaster in every way. Inquisition just hammers the diversity check your privilege nail Bioware has been on. Plus it's just not a good or fun game.
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>>342616192
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>>342616212
I played Origins and skipped the sequel. I thought Inquisition was much better than Origins
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>>342616273
Why is that man wearing a bra?
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>>342616332
how does it hammers the diversity
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I have the demo for DA:I and something seemed off about dialogue and conversations, then it hit me. The top half of their faces never fucking animate.
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>>342616332

Cann you tell more about gameplay or something instead of buzzwords

The critics seemed to like Inquisition, it has over 85 on metacritic
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>>342616413

The marketing was really trying to reel in the tumblr crowd but for the game itself, it didn't really push any agendas unless you actively sought it out. Even the openly gay mage they paraded around in the promos actually is the chillest bro in the game. Dorian is one of the most level headed and logical people in your party and has great banter with practically everyone. Him, Blackwall, and Varric are the only ones I found to be not annoying. Even Iron Bull got annoying because he was trying too hard to cash in the macho stereotype.
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>>342616126
I wanted to like her and I kinda did, but the whole romance pare, it just felt, I don't know, fake?
T.b.h. most of the characters felt like they are pretending to be something, and not just being it.
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>>342615620
I want to fuck morrigan
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>>342616413
I'll just give you one example although the game is littered with SJW shit. Dorian is one of the biggest examples. Aside from him being an insulting caricature of homosexuals. His personal quest is literally him getting acceptance of coming out from his dad.
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>>342616650
That's a problem with Bioware writing in general.
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>>342616358
>I thought Inquisition was much better than Origins
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>342616563
>critics seemed to like Inquisition

Because they would never lie to you.
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>>342616771
What made Origins better?
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>>342616595
so you are mad about one gay thing ok
>>342616724
you do know there was a gay romance in all the games right and his dad did almost kill him
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>>342616650
>bioware romance writing
>ever genuine
they are just fan service and pandering.
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>>342616724

Other than him being really conscious of fashion, what exactly about him was blatantly homo? I never hear him talking about sucking dick or prancing around like a queer or anything.
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>>342616840
Oh I don't know. How origins was an actual rpg and not a single player mmo that inquisition is.
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So no one played the game because it triggered /v/

Got it

>>342616771

I wouldn't be surprised if the reason was because he played the game
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>>342616929

I don't see how you read my post and came to the conclusion that I was mad about anyone being gay.
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>>342616940
>How origins was an actual rpg and not a single player mmo that inquisition is.
Explain?
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>>342616939
>prancing around like a queer

That's literally what he does the entire game. Thanks for showing me you never played it.
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>>342616407
You must be 18 years of age to post on this website. Come back in a few years hon.
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>>342617023
Your like that little shit kid that keeps asking why? Everytime you get an answer.
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>>342613554
If you haven't played DA:O and DA:2, you will be LOST AS FUCK, you will have no fuckng idea about the things that are going on.

And not only that, DA:O, the first game in the series, is still the best one. " DA:O > DA:I >DA:2 " is the most approved tier listing

So back off and play the series from the beginning.

I will never understand how people dare to jump in on long RPG series that even have save imports going on, blindly, from the last or middle games.
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>>342616595
I don't know. Even if you play a female inquisitor Iron Bull manages to tell you about how much he enjoys smashing dudes.

... Thanks... I didn't ask.
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>>342617036
He is one of the best characters in the game retard. He doesn't even mention that he's gay unless you talk to him a lot and help him with a personal quest or try to romance him.
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>>342613554
>So I bought Dragon Age: Inquisition
go eat shti somewhere else.
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>>342617023
The main quests in Inquisition are fine enough, but a large number of side quests are just an mmo-style fetch quest. "Collect 17 shards" or "Kill 5 groups of Red Templars." It's okay for the first few hours, but if you care about full completion, you burn out on the tedious, repetitive side quests before you even get out of the Hinterlands. It makes it worse that the game compels you to do the sidequests to a certain extent so that you can gain power, which is necessary to progress onto the next main-story quest.
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>>342617116
because the elder scroll, fallout and wow exist
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>>342617116
this. IT boggles my mind how many casuals started playing the Witcher series at 3. You should atleast be watching the story for the 1st on youtube and playing the 2nd (in the case of the witcher).

For dragon age you should play the first and watch the story for the 2nd on youtube.
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>>342617165
this>>342617058
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It does a really good job of player empowerment. People respect you and, depending on choices, are treated as a holy figure.

That shit's pretty neat IMO.
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>>342617058
>all that salt

You forgot your pic too
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>>342617036

Show me a single scene where he literally prances around. I know gay people who are big flamers that are literal stereotypes who watch that Drag Race show and extend limp wrists when they talk. Dorian is nothing like that.
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>>342617193
>witcher 1 2 3 has more in common than the core casts.
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>>342617256
keep crying
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>>342617193
I've got to admit I started The Witcher at 3 and DA at Inquisition. Fallout at New Vegas as well, come to think of it.

I was just a late bloomer to a lot of popular series.
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>>342617116
This dude's right but even after playing Origins, Inquisition left me a little lost until later in the game. I can't help phasing out all the boring religion stuff but all these nuns and shit won't stop harping on about it.

I guess the clue was in the title, but still...
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>>342617112
What is the answer you fucking idiot? Both games are about killing enemies and talking to people
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>>342617127

I barely used him and only played him enough for his personal quest which I felt was one of the better ones because it put a hard conflict between his people and his crew.
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>>342617341
The only one crying are the idiots who think inquisition is good.


Mmm your tasty delusion
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>>342617190
And Origins wasn't like that? I remember collecting herbs in a forest and shit like that
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>>342616126
Best girl will always be Leliana.
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>>342617425

You literally came into a thread about a game that makes you analblasted so you can try to find people that validate your opinion. There is nothing more important to do in your day but go into threads about games you hate so you can express your bitterness.
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>>342617385
Knock knock
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>>342617425
Good boy, you sure showed those sheeplets!
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>>342617256


>>342617281
what are core casts?
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>>342617565
>don't give your opinion of a game you've played so my perfect bubble isn't broken!

Your the very reason why Bioware keeps making shit and doesn't change.
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>>342617626
geralt, dandelion, zoltan, triss.
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>>342617504
The number of fetch quests in Origins comes nowhere near the sheer enormity of them in Inquisition. We're talking, without exaggeration, hundreds of quests to the tune of "Close 15 fade rifts," "destroy 12 red lyrium sites," and "find 8 Grey Warden memories." A vast majority of assigned quests in the game are ripped straight from an MMO, made just to pad the amount of time you have to spend if you want to complete them.
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>>342617885
Yeah the mmo style quests just drag all the fun out.
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The game's good. Not the best ever, but still fun. Put in 100+ hours. The ones bemoaning it are hardcore /v/tards, the "I liked it before it was popular" crowd. Also, Dragon Age 2 was the weakest of the three, but still fun.
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>>342617987
100+ hours in one playthrough?
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>>342613554
On the war table just accept your missions and then change your system clock ahead by a day to have them finish instantly. The rewards are all garbage, this saves you time. Nobody wants to wait 6 real time hours for some garbage item. Every single thing you can craft is way better than anything you will ever loot off of enemies or out of chests. Anything you didn't craft isn't even worth equipping unless you're in the first few hours and have an empty equipment slot that it can fill.
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>>342617794

Problem with your argument is that you will find more people who agree with me than you, meaning whatever the fuck you want Bioware to be will service less people than it does now. Have all the opinions you want but try not to be deluded into thinking you speak for the majority.
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>>342618097

Yes. I did pretty much everything in it minus stuff like gathering 10 of this plant and ship like that.
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>>342618097
I've got like 70+ and I'm nowhere close to being done, if you run around doing all the fetch quests and exploring every part of the maps it can take awhile, boring though
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>>342617885
>made just to pad the amount of time you have to spend if you want to complete them.
Aren't they optional? I remember skipping a lot of them and still having a lot of content
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>>342618168
>thinking your the majority

Woah that delusion. A few people hugboxing you is not a majority.
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>>342618323
to a certain extent. But the game makes you complete a number of them to gain the necessary power to unlock the next main-story quest. It might be something like "need 24 power to advance," so you have to go out and do side quests for 1-2 power apiece.
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>>342618461
god help you though if you're one of those people that can't leave any side quest unfinished
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>>342617548
>tfw you can't romance either in DAI
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>>342618395
>all the reviewers and people who liked it are wrong! Read my post on 4chan and listen to MY opinion! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>342613554

Quick question. Are the DA games related to each other story wise at all?
I have DA:O and DAI but want to play the ps4 one first
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>>342618395

And a few people constantly shitposting on an imageboard that represents no one is considered majority? Even if you take the absolute worst of the metacritic scores (PC), there are still more positive than negative reviews. The very definition of majority states more people enjoyed it than didn't. So until you provide some statistic that states more people find the game bad than good, don't bother responding.
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>>342618675

You just summed up /v/ in a nutshell.
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>>342618461
I never needed power. I enjoyed walking around the castle and having those table missions running in the background
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>>342618736
But they didn't really enjoy it, they fell for the marketing.
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>>342618781
Yeah
>why are you listening to other people's reviews? Listen to my review instead!
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>>342618730

They are and aren't. Not direct continuations but have recurring characters and lore obviously. All can be played as stand alone games and still be enjoyed. There is usually enough context to keep you informed on important story details.
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>>342615246
Knight enchanter is still broken, just in a different way. Now with the stacks increasing its damage you can attach an elemental rune on your staff and cast spirit barrage. Instead of 12 projectiles you get 24 with a rune attached. Each cast gives you 24 stacks to up your spirit blade damage. Stack it up high and you can hit for multiple thousands in one strike.
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>>342618887
Fell for what marketing? I bought it because I remember enjoying the first game and wanted a new RPG to play
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>>342618587
>Stealing your Grey Warden's girl
I can't do it
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>>342618887
Oh I see.
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>>342618887

>"they fell for the marketing"

What the actual fuck does that even mean?
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>>342618887

And you did enjoy it, you just fell for the /v/ hivemind.

>>342618978

Spirit Blade became my least damaging spell and the one I used at lowest priority from what was my top used spell. Why would I spirit blade anything when my firemines do 20k+ damage and lay down 3 at a time? I felt gimped forcing myself to HAVE to use barrage to make spirit blade remotely useful because I need constantly to charge it fast. Meanwhile my other mages are doing AoE damage, having great CC and aren't getting fucking tossed around in melee because one of the trials I turned on made shield users into fucking brickwalls.
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>>342618814
I'm not talking about the war table operations. I'm talking about the side quests found in each location.
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>>342618989
I would if I could. Morrigan was hot as fuck.
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>>342619168
That's why I dropped playing on nightmare, turned the difficulty down and powered through the boring side quests and enemies
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>>342619253

She looked really goofy in her poofy ball gown though.
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IMO Inquisition was much better than DA2 but not as good as Origins and Awakening.
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>>342619317
Really? The dress alone gave me a boner.
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>>342619548

Right?!
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>>342619548

From the corset up it looked great but I always though the umbrella wireframe bottoms were weird looking.
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>>342618580
I'm one of those people. Finished it all up and completed the game at 103 hours. All landmarks, shards, rifts, fetch quests, war table. There was nothing left. Fucking never again. Some of the most tedious garbage I've ever done.
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bioware rpg have plenty of faults but there aren't that many games that do stories with character creation + dialogue heavy + companionship banter like them
I like each dragon age iteration less and less and here I am hoping they announce the next soon
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Currently playing through DA2. The game is a lot more fun than DA:O gameplay wise. The RPG element is really lacking and the choosing of one conversation bubble and Hawk responding in a way that is not even close what you though you chose in the conversation can be really fucking annoying.

the companions are at the moment shit in DA2
>edgy elf who escaped some mage guy
>le fucking everything that moves pirate lady
>whining brother
>boring red head lady that still sobs over her dead templarfu
>can't stop about being oppressed Mage/Grey Warden

But I still find more enjoyment in DA2 at the moment because atleast the combat is somewhat entertaining compared to DA:O.

Why do /v/ shit on DA2 again ?
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>>342620950
The companions are shit, the story largely goes nowhere and is pointless, and ANOTHER WAVE combat removes any semblance of pre-battle planning and tactics.
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>>342614684
The damage difference is actually very minor as far as difficulties go. The real challenge in turning up the difficulty is friendly fire on AoE, and the enemy AI is no longer crippled and will stunlock and gang up on your party members, which makes it seem like far more damage is coming in. They actually bothered to make decent difficulty settings for DAO, and then completely abandoned it in future games, going the health sponge route.

That said, the combat often hinges on heavy use of CC from both sides which is why Mages are gods. Most people will probably just find the higher difficulties especially annoying because of that.
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>>342620950
DA2 gets way more hate than it deserves. As far as companions go Carver and Merill are pretty good.
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>>342621126
>tactics
You have to use tactics and adapt because you can't predict the waves.
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>>342621154
I'm dumb. No idea why I thought I was responding about DAO. It's true, DAI's difficulty settings are shit.
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>>342621154
I used AOE spells to kill enemies from outside their engagement range all the time. I'm one of those bastards that can't stop using an effective tactic once I learn it even if it makes the game less fun. I specialized in arcane warrior later for a different playstyle and that was even more ridiculous. Nearly invincible.
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>>342613554
It's really fucking boring.
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Is DA:I's multiplayer still active? I bought it during the sale too, but I didn't know there was multiplayer.
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>>342621253
That's my problem with it; every fight turns into a clusterfuck. I'm not using "tactics" in the sense of setting up the gambit system for your party members ("attack the enemy with highest health first; use potion at <50% health.") I'm talking about tactics in the vein of battlefield strategy and positioning. "Use the warrior to block the enemies' single bottlenecked point of entry while the mage and rogue safely sit back and take potshots." With waves, enemies randomly drop in all around you, so the way you position your party doesn't matter at all. You could do this for the most part in DA:O, but in DA2, any strategy goes out the window as soon as the first wave goes down.
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>>342613554

The biggest thing is they trading heal spam for armor building and barrier spam. At higher levels and higher difficulties, enemies love using one or the other so you'll eventually want something that's effective against either otherwise fights can take forever.
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>>342618978
Literally every other spec does a ton more damage.
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>>342616212
one was a hilarious and edgy CRPG, later titles were 3rd person action cancer
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do people actually enjoy da:o's combat?

rtwp is garbage 90% of the time and da:o's implementation is generic milquetoast mmo bullshit. fuck at least da:i did something interesting with it
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>>342621695

Not really. Bioware stopped supporting it because it wasn't bring in ME3 money so people stopped playing it. It was active earlier in the year when they made the multiplayer f2p but once the last DLC released everyone bailed.
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>>342620950
It's like ME2 but without the strong cast that made it decent. Everything is dumbed down for slightly better combat, exploration is gone, the story is pointless in the grand scheme of things. DA:O felt like a grand adventure, DA2 just had you fucking around in the same lifeless city for the entire game with reused areas galore.
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>>342617548
>>342618587

Morrigan is a good waifu for Warden, but Leliana is just a crazy bitch that has a crisis of faith every five years. I mean damn, either believe or don't.
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>>342622619
>but Leliana is just a crazy bitch that has a crisis of faith every five years
I thought she was cute in Origins, never played later titles
>Morrigans initial disapproval of every single thing you do got tiring as well
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>>342621156
Carver comes of as a whining little shit. Can understand somewhat where he is coming from but the guy constantly complains about literally everything.

>>342622141
haven't played da:i but I agree with your the first part.
People here praise da:o as this cool grimdark adventure RPG, but always found it to be more of a shore to play than anything.

The writing is shit compared to something like VTMB that was released a few years earlier and a game like Witcher 1 that was made by a bunch of slavs living on pizza.
I never understand the praise some game gets here on /v/.
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>>342613554
The game has a lot of content but it's very shallow/repetitive. I started playing it and liked it well enough to keep playing, but before I could finish it I simply grew too bored since I kept doing the brainless side content, I don't even know why.

If you're going to play it don't focus too much on all the brainless side shit or it will probably burn you out, the rest of the game isn't good enough to keep you interested. It's "ok" at most, it's by no means and amazingly engrossing RPG.
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>>342620950
>>342622605

>better combat

What the fuck is wrong with you people. There are sequels that actually improved combat slightly by making it slightly more "action-like"; Witcher 2 and Mass Effect 2. The thing those two series have in common are that Witcher 1 and Mass Effect 1 had garbage combat so it was a pretty straight improvement.

DA:O combat was actually fucking great and tactical and DA2 and Inquisition made it completely dull and just something that gets in the way of the story. Even if everything else improved I could never enjoy another game in this series as much as DA:O because the combat, like 50% of the game, is so brainless.
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>>342623220

Leliana is fine in the first game. She's a trainwreck in Inquisition and leans toward being a complete edgelord in every way if your PC doesn't act like Jesus all the time.

Meanwhile, Morrigan actually matures as a person.
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>>342617548
A lisping bard? Nigga, please. I seriously have no idea why they even brought back someone you could've potentially killed in Origins. I mean, it's not like she does anything a new character couldn't have done.
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>>342623264
>Mass Effect 1 had garbage combat so it was a pretty straight improvement.
Only with certain weapon types and classes. The ones that worked, worked really well so it was more of a balance issue which ME2 still had btw.
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>>342619253
people tend to forget morrigan was redesigned after everyone called her a tranny following some inquisition promo screenshots she was in
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>>342623491
>A lisping bard?
Bard as in spy/assassins, which is why her song buffs were just battlecries.
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>>342618675
I'm pretty sure literally the only reason why DAI won any awards in 2014 was because Witcher 3 got delayed to 2015.
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>>342623264
I think it was better than having nothing but toggle abilities reserving 80% of your stamina with auto-attack being the majority of the combat in DA:O. The trade off was that combat became spammy which is also not good. Maybe they'll find the right balance in the next one. It is Bioware though so I doubt it.
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>>342623491
I'm still mad that she comes back if you killed her and the explanation is "LOL did you check her pulse?"
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>>342622141

>rtwp
>mmo bullshit

I don't even understand this argument, what MMO has real time pause combat?
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>>342616126
>RESTORE ZA ORDAH

She was infinitely more attractive in DA2, though.
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>>342623884
If it has cooldowns it's MMO combat.
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Posting best girl who I romanced immediately once I met him.

;_;
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>>342623264

the tactical part of da:o was shitty though. It felt like 90% was stopping time to move your characters or decide a spell for your companions to do.
Felt like I was doing baby's first RTS. Rather play starcraft if that is the case.

EVEN THEN the combat so fucking shitty because if you had a brain and realized that building your character around passive buffs that makes your auto attackers stronger is a lot more sufficient than the other options that exists.
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>>342623896
I LOVE how the kid amounts to literally nothing in the story. He's just there because they needed to tie that loose plot thread from the first game.
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>>342623924
For some retarded reason they decided to add facial scars to pretty much everyone but Leliana and Morrigan. Vivienne has none but she's bald so still ugly anyway.
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Two words bro. KNIGHT ENCHANTER
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>>342623791

I agree the toggle abilities were too powerful but I was never just auto-attacking in DA:O. I suppose that depends on party composition, bringing mostly mages makes it much more fun.

The problem is that DA2 fundamentally changed the combat, it's not just "more spammy" it's a totally different (and shittier) style of gameplay than DA:O.
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>>342615198
>side cut
Why are people still convinced this looks good?
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>>342623235
He complains when you do stupid things, like talking about mage rights in the middle of templar HQ. Or alternatively, outright confessing to being a mage in the middle of templar HQ. Or sending an unstable mage to the Dalish to learn highly unorthodox magic instead of somewhere capable of either giving him the help he needs or making him tranquil. Or if you agree to side with renegade mages (some of which are blood mages) in a cave while Templars are about to bust down the door. Or when you do super shady stuff. Despite (or perhaps because of) him being a stickler, he's a lot more on the up and up than Bethany.

He also complains when people rub it in his face that he's in Hawke's shadow. He also, unlike most of the companions in that game, actually does something about his problems, whether by choice or not. Or dies in the deep roads.
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>>342623924
>She was infinitely more attractive in DA2
She's basically the same in DAI, except she traded black makeup for scars and she honestly comes out better for it.
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>>342624237
Some hippies from socal
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>>342624013

I think you just fundamentally don't enjoy that style of play then, coming from CRPGs and things like X-COM that tactical part was the best part of combat. It's also great because you only pause as often as you need to think, so as you get better at it the combat gets faster.

Building around passive buffs was your choice, and is not the most effective way to play the game. Yes, you can beat it on normal difficulty that way, but normal isn't hard. You can cheese your way through most RPGs on lower difficulties.
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Do I need to play DA2 for the story or is it irrelevant when looking at DAI?

I played DAO back in the day and figured I should give the other two a shot even if they are bad.
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>>342624554

It's pretty irrelevant. You can pirate it if you want and give it a shot. You could probably watch a youtube video or read a wiki and get caught up too.
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>>342623825
I think if you killed her one of the endings imply she was just a projection of sentient lyrium some shit, she literally disappears out of thin air
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>>342624554
It's irrelevant. DLC is actually what matters, but you can do without it because every Bioware game is built so you can jump into it ignorant.
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>>342623896
Ay yo, lemme get the sauce
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>>342624554
>Do I need to play DA2 for the story
Not really. I didn't and characters seemed to explain stuff well enough. Just be sure to do the dragon keep setup if you want shit to carry over from the first game though.
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>>342624915
Mages and Templars are fighting now because the Templars oppressed the mages pretty badly (the Kirkwall mages were almost 100% bloodmages). Also, Hawke accidentally released a guy who claims to be one of the original Tevinters who went into the Golden City to find the Maker.

That's basically all there is to know from DA2.
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>>342624419
But I do enjoy that kind of combat. X-COM is NOTHING like da:o combat wise. One is built around the turn based part and the other isn't.

And please tell me about this build that has minimum amount of auto attacks for damage that works in higher difficulties.
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