DMC4SE is 15 cashmoney on Steam.
DMC thread.
>>342609139
I'd like to participate in a DMC thread but I feel like there's nothing left to talk about
Perhaps you should ask a question or something to start us off then we can shitpost about how shit other people's tastes are
it's too soon anon
DMC4SE is 0 money on TPB
>>342609139
>no dmc5
>>342610294
Ok how about this one:
DMC1 is still actually the best installment in the franchise; despite its garbage camera and limited moves.
And yes, I've been saying this since before the Matthew video before it was kewl.
>>342612404
DMC1 is technically the best but it's less fun than 3.
And yes, 3 is more fun than 4, fight me you queers.
This is what Reuben's been up to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-ThJo5hWps
>>342613368
>Vergil's actor is an aloof motherfucker.
>Dante's actor is legitimately crazy.
It's pretty much pitch perfect.
We've spent years talking about DMC4
Then we clung to the possibility of a true sequel. This year we thought it was time for a devil may cry v, the signs were showing, Reuben teased. What we got, wasabsolutely nothing
>>342613968
>Dan Southworth
>aloof
Are you serious? Have you seen any interviews with him? He's a goofball just like the video game Dante is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGl7B8YJSyk
>>342614323
I meant more in the "no shits given" way.
He pretty much leaked DMC5 and acted like a total player.
>>342614205
>What we got, was absolutely nothing
People were naive for believing in an E3 announcement.
None of the actual hints ever pointed towards E3. It was just the possibility of it being in development. People took every other DMC being announced at E3 as "proof" for DMC5 being announced. Even though DmC got announced at TGS.
DMC isn't as big as it was 10 years ago. If it is happening, TGS is much more likely. And even if it doesn't happen then, there is still hope.
When Itsuno's new project gets announced and it isn't DMC, THEN you're allowed to say "Ok, it's probably not happening."
As a newcomer to the DMC series, is DMC 4 SE on Steam a good place to start?
>>342612404
>the Matthew video
I'm a DMC neophyte. What's this Matthew video? A combo video for DMC1 or something?
>>342615364
DMCHD is better if you have a 360 or PS3.
But DMC4SE is fine. Not the best in some aspects but gameplay is sublime. Play Nero/Dante first. Other characters are just extras.
>>342615485
A 3 hour long deconstruction of Devil May Cry.
>>342612404
Literally never heard this opinion in all DMC threads for years till now. Every day /v/ gains a higher level of being contrarian.
>>342615796
How can you never have noticed DMC1fags?
It objectively does some things better than every other DMC, partially thanks to its Resident Evil roots
>>342615606
I listened to it for about an hour, seemed like he was just rambling on about nothing
>>342616173
Yes the atmosphere is good but saying it is the best in the series is like saying DMC2 is the best in the series because it has the best music.
>>342616419
>DMC2
>best music
This guy can't be cereal. I'll give you best costume, but that's as far as your ruse will go.
>>342616419
DMC1 pretty much has the best campaign in the entire series. With some of the best enemies and levels in the entire series.
The weak parts of DMC4 is pretty much DMC1's strengths. DMC3 has a nice middle ground with strengths from both; but still has a bunch of boring filler garbage. Not as bad as DMC4,but it's still present.
>>342616996
4 is completely ruined by the campaign and 1 feels barebones as fuck the moment you touch DMC3. DMC3 also has by far the most highlights in the campaign.
Can we all just agree that DMC 2 was the worst of the series?
>>342617441
Some people will insist DmC is worse because it's offensive, but yes, DMC2 is the worst by a mile.
>playing through LDK mode as Vergil
>get to Dante's Savior fight
>the fun has stopped
What the fuck were they thinking with this boss?
>>342617661
I havent played DmC, I liked the new design of Donte, but idk he acts really edgy in the trailers
DMC4 could have been the best in the series.
Except you go through every level twice. And fight each boss three times.
Such a shameless amount of backtracking.
As it stands, DMC3 is probably the best.
I didn't try DmC. I had no interest in that shitfest.
>>342618056
Yeah DMC 3 along with DMC 1 are the best of the series. I liked 4 but they got lazy with the backtracking with Dante
>>342617681
Same, I was replaying on DMD with Nero and Dante for the first time since release and got 'nam-tier flashbacks with the savior fight.
Was getting S and A ranks left and right, Savior took me 20 minutes and landed me a nice fat D.
>>342618008
He acts that way the entire game. There isn't a single scene a normal person is capable of taking seriously.
Thanks, I haven't tried this yet and am excited to play as Trish.
Also, why do people say DMC1 is clunky? It feels exactly the same as the rest of the series. Running, dodging, the standard sword combo, delayed button press combo, the launch, stinger, jumping, wall jumping, etc. Everything feels exactly the same to me. I play these games back to back every year.
DmC completely missed the tone of DMC proper.
Dante's character only works because it isn't meant to be taken seriously. Peel away the corny aspects and you're left with one of the worst Mary Sues of all time: half demon, anime hair, red trench coat, stylistic fighting prowess, etc.
But somehow DmC had the bright idea of upping the edge, the angst, and the grit. So now instead of cheesy one-liners, we get "fuck you." And he's wearing a darker outfit with a new shit-eating grin and fuccboi haircut.
And Vergil... That character is already questionable in DMC. But now he's a fedora wearing cunt who shoots fetuses and boasts about his dick size.
Top it off with some ham-fisted political commentary and you get a goddamn disaster.
Not sure why we couldn't just get a sequel to DMC4.
>>342618056
>>342618189
DMC4 was supposed to be much bigger.
40 mission total with 20 each for both characters. But Capcom pulled the plug mid-development when they realized they had blown past their budget. This is why DMC4 has such crazy production values for its time. And why Dante backtracks and gets weapons totally unrelated to the bosses he fights.
Capcom thought 2.5 mil was "disappointing" during release because DMC4 was such a incredibly huge moneysink that was going to be even bigger.
>>342618816
Please tell me at least the combat is good
>>342619371
As someone said: "it's good but not Devil May Cry good"
>>342619234
Hopefully someday DMC 5 deliver us this, but with Virgil as the MC
>>342618995
>Also, why do people say DMC1 is clunky?
DMC1's camera is real fucking bad, and I say this as somebody who loves the game.
It's like an old school Resident Evil without the tank controls, but when you keep the camera but remove the tank controls everything gets fucked. Because your perspective changes with the camera and so does your inputs.
It was never a big problem for me but it's a totally valid complaint
>>342619429
Hmmm, near my house they sell it for 10 dollars new for the PS4, maybe ill try it to see if its worth it
>>342619371
It's simpler. It's a decent western action game so compare it to the likes of GoW or Dante's Inferno. I heard the "We're sorry" edition fixes a lot of things.
>>342616419
DMC2 has good music but the other three definitely have better ones.
>>342619371
>Please tell me at least the combat is good
Combat is fun but casualized.
It doesn't have anywhere near the depth of old games but atleast hitting stuff feels good.
>>342619689
Well that convinces me! Btw have you guys ever shopped in Liverpool? The games in that store are super cheap
>>342619371
It's great.
>>342619820
>4
>better than anything only because it has the time has come
>>342619371
It's okay, but it's easy to get bored. Bosses are utterly unremarkable.
>>342609139
DMC4SE was 15 on humble bundle and it came bundled with re4hd, re5, rev, re6, sf4u, dmc3, DmC, etc.
Are valvefags retarded? Do they like to be scammed?
>>342619959
Through our something
We'll fight until eternity-y
Come with me
We'll stand and fight forever
Through our something
We'll make a better day-ay tomorrow
And we shall never surrender
>>342620343
>he actually likes the weeb song they put in
>>342612615
I don't think anyone will argue that. 3 feels faster, Dante's styles are more unique and feel like they're worth replaying the game to level up, and the asset reuse is less blatant and lazy. 4 is a fantastic game in its own right, especially with the SE content, but 3 is still the reigning king of Devil may cry.
>>342620446
I was kidding. My favorite DMC song is the Cerberus battle:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QE1ScwL4Jmo
>>342620446
>he doesn't like Shall Never Surrender
You're alone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isVSURYCcHI
I have extra keys for DmC and DMC4:SE
Does anyone want to buy me games in exchange for them?
>>342620705
I'm rather alone than with a bunch of neckbeards that sharpen their katanas and train teleporting while singing shall never surrender and combine it for maximum cancer gains.
>>342620965
>>342620705
>gameplay footage provided by twitch plays DMC4
>>342621472
>implying that's not the skill of an average /v/irgin
>>342620705
Honestly the song gets real fucking annoying when it is the main battle theme for Nero.
I know people love to memepost about it but it just like BABYBABYBABY from Persona 3 it starts to get on your nerves.
>>342620705
This song reminds me of when we beat DmC.
Hold me brothers
I'm playing through DMC1 and holy fuck this is hard. That spider boss was retarded, I mean, I have all these moved and only one will hit it? But the Black Knight fight was rad. Besides that, I love how horrible Dante's voice acting is, he sounds like he's imitating Solid Snake imitating Dante.
>no DMC 6 featuring Uncle Dante, Nero and Lady as playable characters (Dante/Nero main campaign + Lady campaign comparable to Ada campaign in RE4)
Lady is best girl, that's all.
>>342627835
>DMC6
It was also $15 with a bunch of Resident Evil games on Humble Bundle last month. Games on this sale are too expensive.
>>342627835
>You will never fuck Lady on a billiard table as Black Betty plays on the jukebox
why even live
>>342627910
i feel emberrassed now.
didn't mean to post such a bait level sentence.
>>342627661
>That spider boss was retarded, I mean, I have all these moved and only one will hit it?
The fuck are you talking about? all of Alastor's attacks AND your guns will hit Phantom. You're supposed to study his movements and attack at the right times (IE when he is not defending himself with his claws).
Theres even some cool mechanics going on were you can deflect his fire ball attack right on his face, or do a Helm Breaker on his tail for massive damage.
>>342627835
Lady was boring as fuck in DMC4SE.
Gun focused characters just aren't very fun in DMC.
>>342629039
She really needed a radically different playstyle from everyone else.
>>342629039
Gunslinger was really fun in DMC 3, though. The problem with Lady for me is that she feels really broken; not many actual options but everything she has will clear entire rooms in seconds. She also is a monster at building the style meter, I don't think I have ever stayed below "Stylish" playing as her.
>>342615606
Can someone give me a summary of some of his points in that vid?
I honestly don't want to give it a click, youtube is just a cancer amplifier with however the fuck their trending algorythms work, and I don't care for Matt making a living by beating dead horses because analsis videos and gaming are 'in' right now.
>>342628405
I literally just kept doing helm breakers on his tail because none of my other attacks did anything.
>>342612012
Im still on suicide watch from E3 guys...
...Hold me...
>>342619448
That reminds me what do you guys think of Vergil's movesets in 4 compared to 3?
dmc sucks lol
>>342631610
I thought DMC4 Vergil was cool but he had not enough weaknessess.
Way too OP and his instateleport just makes it feel like you're not doing much.
>>342631751
>Dante: I CALLED HER ON THE PHONE AND SHE TOUCHED HERSELF
>Vergil: What ARE you talking about?
>Dante: SHE TOUCHED, HERSELF
>Vergil: YOU'RE WASTING TIME!
>>342619915
BRAVO TAMEME
R
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>>342631790
He made me wish Vergil was less limited as fuck thanks to how much they cut his movesets in 3;SE due to disc limitations.
>tfw Dante will never be black
>>342632228
>tfw Dante will never be back
>>342630614
You might have noticed that he has armor around his body, only the tail and the face are unprotected. Thus, he will put up his claws in front of the face to guard it and hide his tail inside his body. It is much easier to stay close to his face and bait his attacks, attack after he does and Stinger his face when he tries to shoot a fireball; all of his attacks are telegraphed as fuck. Of course, if you are in Normal mode you can also use Air Raid to cheese him from above, but that is not going to work on higher difficulties.
>>342612012
>>342631282
NEVER EVER
So he was serious with this?
I thought he was like teasing us because he was gonna be there for DMC5. Rest in pieces my hopes.
>>342631282
>>342632353
If they started recording mocap just recently there's nooo waaaay they'd have anything ready for a E3, you were being delusionally optimistic.
For a game with as much graphical detail as DMC you're either going to get a teaser image announcement, or you'll get a trailer 1-2 years into production.
If we don't hear about it until 2019 at that point you could say it's dead.
There were so many teases.
>Capcom pleased with DMC4SE sales
>"They're bringing us back"
>Itsuno's new project
I'm still holding out hope for TGS, if nothing there then I'll be on suicide watch.
>>342620705
The Vergil remix of Divine Hate is the best imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K26mi_cSAkA
>>342632806
They did have Devil May Cry on their 2016 fiscal year thingy, which means they would have to release something before 2017. Unless that refers ro Pachinko games or something retarded like that, of course; I'm not entirely sure how these reports work.
>>342633282
MEIN NEGGER
>>342632806
The most solid, concrete evidence of Devil May Cry is Capcom's annual report.
It specifically mentions Devil May Cry by name, as can be seen right here, along with other Capcom titles (We now know Dead Rising 4 is happening) which were obviously happening.
A new Devil May Cry is planned to be out before the end of fiscal 2017. Which is early 2018, I think. Which would make sense.
If Itsuno started development on DMC5 early 2016, an early 2018 release is not impossible. Let's assume that DMC4SE is actually something they worked on in the meantime to get familiar with the new consoles, and that they are also planning on reusing assets from DMC4SE.
Early 2018 is very possible.
>>342633459
Nah I feel like this is a good sign, it's up there with their mainstay franchises.
>>342633969
>lets assume they're reusing assets from 4SE
But anon, 4SE was made entirely out of reused assets already!
>>342632460
Okay, I'll experiment with weak points of bosses and such. Thanks anon.
>>342633969
man revelations 2 was so good considering it was only 25 bucks.
playing a episode every week was a lot of fun, i hope they get to do it again.
>>342634254
Fuck it they can just put all of DMC4 in DMC5.
>>342634254
>But anon, 4SE was made entirely out of reused assets already!
Outside of Trish, I can't say that I noticed much.
Capcom is not the video game giant they once were. If they have to go the From Software "DUDE JUST REUSE EVERYTHING LMAO" route I would be fine with that.
The important part is that DMC5 feels like a finished game, if they blatantly reuse a bunch of content from DMC4 then so be it. The foundation is so good that I don't mind.
>>342633459
Neither RE or DR is gonna realize before then either though right?
Just seeing it on there is good.
It's not gonna happen but I really wish devs would go back to 3-4 year cycles instead of 2 years + a couple of months to patch together what remains after dropping half.
If we get a DMC5 in 2018/2019 and they worked on it from late 2015, that would be the ideal. That's a game that would stand the test of time, that's how classics are made.
>>342634756
*Release
Keyboard dyslexia is a pretty interesting phenomenon I have to say.
>>342633969
>>342633974
>>342634756
If DMC 5 IS in production since early 2016, do you guys think a 2017/early 2018 release would be enough for them to give us an actually complete game this time around? If you consider Reuben doesn't seem awere of anything going on (based on some comments he made during E3) and how DMC4 turned out, it sounds like an awfully short time to build a new game from scratch. Unless they get lazy and reuse all animations from 4 or something like that.
It physically hurts me to think that Capcom would give so much time for DmC to be developed only for it to turn out crap after they rushed DMC 4 out of the door like that.
>>342627457GIVE ME...BACK...MY SON!!!
I really wish that Vergil wasNero's dad.
>>342635139He is.
>>342635139
And he's a shit dad, just like his own dad.
>>342635231
Never played the SE of DMC4 (4 I did, but never got the SE). Did they pretty much confirmed it in there? Or will we be only having that one post on Capcom's forum that says that he is?
>>342634668
I dunno, I thought Lady and Vergil's reused shit was super noticeable, too. Using DmC's sword teleport for Vergil was dumb, it was fine in DmC but 3SE could teleport without swords and it was fine. The reused shit doesn't bother me much personally but it is noticeable as hell, you've gotta be blind not to see it.
>>342634939
>If you consider Reuben doesn't seem awere of anything going on (based on some comments he made during E3)
This assumption is made on that Reuben is just straight up fucking lying about not knowing anything because he's under contract.
Some people bring up the argument that Reuben with his crazy principles never actually lie; and I could buy that. But also he can be held legally accountable if he doesn't cover it up
>>342612404
>story faggots
Fuck off back to witcher.
DMC1's gameplay is awful.
>>342635442
Dunno. If it is confirmed that he's Nero's father, then how would've he knew it?
Bet he went to Fortuna Island to look for some answers to Sparda and his exploits, met some nice young lady, actually decided to stay there for some time and then something must've happened that he left the place and started to hate people.
>>342635459
>did the confirm it
there were vague hints, nothing concrete but they're obviously aware that peoplenot me personallyenjoy the idea
>>342618816
>implying
>Forgetting the scene where vergil kills that girl's unborn child and dante literally says what the fuck
It's like you guys only remember what you want to.
>>342635721
>A game is only made up out of story and combat.
Don't be a fucking retard Anon.
>Sparda: Knocks up a girl, has two kids, fucks off and disappears forever.
>Vergil: Knocks up a girl, has a kid, fucks off, destroys a city, gets brainwashed and dies.
>Dante: Spends all his time dealing with his family's unfinished business. Most of the time, he's either defeating enemies that his dad failed to kill or mentoring his brother's son.
Just you watch. In DMC5, he'll be cleaning up his mom's stupid shit next.
>>342633280
>Capcom is happy with SE sales
>Do more HD collections
>They're bringing us back!
>Pachislots
>Itsuno's new project
>Nothing known about it
Just give up.
>>342636031
>DMC
>Not the biggest card people pull when saying it's good is the "god tier combat"
>DMC1's is shit
?????
>>342635882
Honestly, I didn't mind Donte much, but Virgin was so bad. It's like they said "oh shit DMC3 ended with a fight between Dante and Vergil, quick, make Virgin a competent fighter that can go toe-to-toe with Donte even though he was a pussy bitch throughout the rest of the game" at the last minute.
>>342635872
I too like the idea, but where it would fit in the timeline and how the events turned that he conceived Nero...we'll never know it.
>>342636335
>In DMC5, he'll be cleaning up his mom's stupid shit next.
There will be witches in it I swear...but then again Capcom isn't like it used to be.
>>342635618
>you've gotta be blind not to see it.
It's not like I actively look for it.
I can notice it if I take time to think about it. But it's not like Vergil's stinger is going to bother me because it's the same animation. They refitted it in a clever way and added different properties and visuals to it.
All in all I think they hid it pretty well, shit like Beowulf might mostly just be rips from Gilgamesh, but it's not like they have the exact same combos.
>>342635721
>DMC1's gameplay is awful
That's completely false anon.
What makes it awful exactly? It's responsive, enemies are engaging and dangerous, there's a lot of enemy variety, the two weapons have full movesets.
Are you talking about manipulating the rank system with how it only counts number of hits instead of attack variety?
>>342635139
>>342636858
>triangle
>to jump
>>342636382
>Not the biggest card people pull when saying it's good is the "god tier combat"
That doesn't mean the other parts of the game aren't important. DMC 1 in particular had a very strong atmosphere, soundtrack and the best level design in the series by far. Story wasn't bad either, if you can escuse the cheesy voice acting.
>DMC1's is shit
Your opinion is shit. DMC 1's combat is not as smooth and CHURUAAZAAAYYYY as 3 but it is very solid mechanically and has a lot do depth to it too,whith lots of different ways to aproach every situation and really strong enemy variety and design. I learn something new everytime I play that game.
>>342636858
I think enemies were only dangerous because Dante himself was never supposed to be that strong to begin with. At least, not as strong as he becomes later on in the series. In DMC1, Dante yells in pain, runs away from an enemy is caught off guard several times.
Ever since DMC2, none of that ever happens again, with the exception of Jester's intervention in DMC3.
>>342636927
Sweet. Now we need DMC5 where Vergil gets resurrected and will have flashbacks of how he met Nero's mom.
>>342637050
>i learn something new every time i play the game
Not my fault you have some kind of mental defect, it has far less to do, i do agree about the lack of enemy variety in later games though.
>>342637247
>Vergil gets resurrected
This meme needs to end.
>>342637312
Or at least have his spirit come back somehow...if it is possible.
>>342636382
Simple combat=/=bad
DMC1 is still tons of fun to play. Weapons are satisfying, enemies are aggressive and fun to fight, and it has some great bosses.
Just because you can't pull off sickass combos doesn't mean there is no merit to the combat. DMC1 still has the most satisfying Ebony and Ivory in the entire series, and it doesn't even have gunslinger, they're just fun to shoot.
>>342636809
I didn't look for it, I've just played these games so much it's easy to notice reused shit. They did a mostly decent job hiding Vergil's reused assets but it wasn't hard to see Lady's, even with the new effects. Like I said, not a deal breaker, but they're noticeable. To me, anyways
>>342636649
That's part of the reason I don't like the idea, it doesn't make sense. Otherwise I just prefer the idea that Nero is possessed by the ghost of Vergil or something like that
>>342637413
He should just stay dead. There's no point to killing him off if you're just gonna bring him back to life. Granted, no one knew there was gonna be a sequel back when they made the first game, but he's dead and they should leave it at that. Bringing a dead character back to life is one of the worst things you can do in fiction. This isn't Marvel or DC Comics.
>>342637507
May very well be that he did it a year before DMC3 or something like that.
>>342637620
>Bringing a dead character back to life is one of the worst things you can do in fiction.
You have a point here.
>>342637050DMC1 Dante's costume is the best, fuck those people that say that lanklet from DMC2 looks better
>>342637451
>most satisfying guns
i heavily disagree, even though they're fairly weak in 4 i think they were done best there.
>>342636649
>how would it fit in the timeline
DMC4SE's vergil story is somehow canon so at some point he went to whatever the place was called and knocked up some girl.
>>342636937
HD collection lets you change buttons for sure.
It's been a long time since I played DMC1 on PS2 but I recall it having some button layouts you can use.Some buttons should not ruin the whole game for you unless you're just holding a grudge against it
>>342637312
He's definitely coming back anon. He's practically more popular than Dante.
>>342637943
DMC1 was not my first game i went back and played it and the button layout i could absolutely not get used to.
>>342636375
After TGS.
>>342637620
They didn't even kill him in 1. Mundus just says that he was "defeated" then nobody references him again.
>>342638024
And that's why he's a playable character in DMC4SE.
He doesn't have to be alive in order to be playable. Any writer who brings a dead character back to life just because of his popularity is a piece of shit hack.
>>342638056
My first one was DMC1.
I didn't really have problems adjusting to DMC2 or 3, but 2 was just funky for all sorts of different reasons.
I like DMC1 3 and 4 equally for different reasons.
>>342638125
>He was just hiding
This would be just as bad as bringing him back to life. Way to completely destroy any and all impact his "defeat" had. You guys don't even care, do you? As long as your favorite character is back, you don't give a shit how stupid and bullshit it is.
>>342638196
I like 3 and 4 equally for different reasons but i see that 4 made the combat smoother but that's basically it.
>>342612012
>>342632495
Just wait up until TGS, you crazy coots.
>>342637750
>even though they're fairly weak in 4 i think they were done best there.
The guns dropping in damage so quickly with just a bit of distance really sours the guns in DMC4 for me. I get that they are not supposed to be mainly for damage output, but they felt very pushed to the sidelines in DMC4 outside of a few moves.
Also I fucking HATE standard fire for E&I in 4 because I have bad mashing fingers.
>>342619136
>Not sure why we couldn't just get a sequel to DMC4.
Sales weren't hot in the west at first, particularly on PC, coupled with Inafune's obsession with West
>>342638126
He's not just popular because of how he plays, people love his whole style in the cutscenes too, and at some point they can't keep making up flashback stories for him.
>>342638265
Don't be a retard anon. The weight of him and Dante fighting isn't retroactively lost just because he comes back - DMC3's conflict isn't rendered meaningless just because he was also in 1.
With the sheer vagueness of what happened it's no stretch narrative to have him return. Fuck they could just say that Nelo Angelo was Vergil's soul trapped in the armor while his body was held captive in hell, and it would line up because all the Bianco and Alto Angelos in 4 were also souls infusing armor that were constructed from the remains of Nelo's.
>>342638489
>Just wait up until TGS
Don't fill them with false hope Anon. Even if DMC5 is happening there is no indication it will get announced at TGS.
Announcing games months before release is the hot new thing. RE7 is coming out in January for fuck's sake. DMC5 could pull something similar and not get announced until 2017.
>>342638809
Sounds like a shoddy bunch of excuses to me. You're just clinging onto whatever shitty excuse to bring him back you can to justify your reasoning. Let him die and stay dead. Bringing him back now wouldn't do anyone any favors anyway. Nero's his legacy now, and his gameplay style can simply be copied by Dante with Dark Slayer.
>>342638613
>Can't enjoy Honeycomb Fire
I feel bad for you, anon.
I don't have PS3 or X360. I wish they port HD colection to PC.
>>342638809
Sparda was never definitely said to have died either. You think they should bring him back too?
>>342639085
How would brining back Vergil suddenly be a disservice to DMC as a whole?
>>342639574
It's cheap. DMC isn't exactly known for great writing, but that's no reason to bring it down even further. Have some standards for god's sake.
>>342639174
Honeycomb fire is great, so is Rainstorm.
Like I said, I just hate Dante's standard fire because I have bad mashing fingers and Dante only fires on bullet per press. His gunslinger moves are fine because they don't require fire a bullet per press.
>>342639085
You sound assmad anon. It's not a shitty excuse if it's done well and actually leads to a relevant plot.
Even in DMC1 Vergil's story was basically cut content, the whole deal with Nelo Angelo was a rushjob. Kamiya's even said that his story post-1 would continue if he got to make a sequel.
Also,
>Nero is Vergil's legacy but fuck it let's give Dante Dark Slayer and Yamato AGAIN
>>342639440
Well no, they definitely did directly say he died.
But also yes.
>>342639950
Nero's circle button is dedicated to the Devil Bringer. He can't use Styles.
Dante actually knows how to use Dark Slayer and iai. Nero doesn't know the first thing about it. And Dante doesn't need to get Yamato permanently. He only needs it for one stage. After that, it's a permanent part of his armory.
>>342640397
They could just make Devil Bringer a style. Or give him Yamato as a weapon switch that also changes what B does, like a soft tutorial for style switching.
It doesn't matter if Nero uses Iaido (He did use it a little in 4 though), but he should get Yamato no matter what. There's no reason for Dante to get it again just so he can copy Vergil. It's fine enough but I think the novelty was used up in 4.
>>342641031
Dante's the technical style character. Nero's the beginner-friendly straightforward character. They should stay as they are.
And like I said, it doesn't need to exchange hands permanently. Even if Dante only gets Yamato back for one stage and gives it back to Nero in the following stage, it won't be reflected in the gameplay. Every weapon you obtain is permanently part of your armory. You don't lose them just because the character loses them in the story. That's why Dante can use weapons he obtains over the course of the campaign in previous missions where he shouldn't have them.
>>342641359
It would make sense for aspects of Nero's play to prep people for Dante's play though. One weapon switch that changes B's functionality would demonstrate part of what Dante does in a way that isn't overwhelming.
>And like I said, it doesn't need to exchange hands permanently. Even if Dante only gets Yamato back for one stage and gives it back to Nero in the following stage, it won't be reflected in the gameplay.
Even so, if Nero doesn't use it there's no point in him even having it in the story over Dante.
>>342641880
He uses it for his Devil Trigger. If he doesn't have Yamato, then he can't use Devil Trigger. That's the whole point. He might get a different Devil Trigger if he used Rebellion or even Sparda.
>>342641880
There's no point in giving Nero an inferior version of what Dante has. That would just make him a lesser Dante.
If you WERE to give Nero different weapons, ideally, they should be simple, easy-to-use affairs. Like an axe or hammer that's stronger but slower and doesn't require significant skill to use like Nevan or Lucifer.
>>342614323
He always seems so intense in interviews and such.
>>342642936
It's barely used in DT though. He should be able to use it regularly.
>>342643109
Nero already has a smoothed-out or watered-down version of Dante's moveset. There's a reason people call him a tutorial character. Even then, using a similar mechanic doesn't mean it needs to be exactly the same, he could put his own spin on it, just like Yamato itself.
>>342643109
>DMC5
>Nero gets a ball and chain weapon. If you rev it up to max, it creates explosions when it impacts.
>For an alt ranged weapon, he uses an M79 grenade launcher. It has a far slower rate of fire than the Blue Rose but it hurts like a bitch.
How do you guys get high style rankings on bosses? I know im bad but I always get ds it doesnt seem like you can actually chain stuff together on them
>>342643727
Use different moves.
Don't get hit.
>>342643703
The Devil Bringer and Nero's overall slower, more power-based style makes him different from Dante. If you let him use Yamato normally, he'd just be an inferior Dante/Vergil.
It's better to focus on the Devil Bringer for Nero. Make it more versatile and convenient.
>>342612404
The horror feel in DMC1 is fantastic. But knowing how powerful you are makes it thrilling. Shame the other games ditched it for curazzzy action.
>>342643712
>Nero's already the slowest of the playable cast. Make him even slower and just add more power.
Admittedly, I think having a tank character like that would be a refreshing change for Devil May Cry. Just give him a Devil Bringer option that lets him punch shit and you'd have a real bulldozer on your hands.
>>342643727
what game/ bosses?
for the most part, the most important thing is to learn the bosses behavior so you can know when you can combo and get out without being hit. Taunting is very important too, as it keeps your style up and gives you DT energy back.
>Best fight in the game.
>Only boss you fight once.
Sasuga Itsuno-San.
Does the DMC3 PCmod work with a pirated copy?
>>342618238
>a nice fat D
I'll give you a nice fat D, bb
>>342627835
>already discussing what DMC6 can be when 5 isn't even out
>>342644154
He doesn't need to use it with iaido like either of them. It could be like in DMC1. He could even use it WITH the Devil Bringer.
>>342645873
Tell me that.
DMC4 was even supposed to have different bosses for both Dante and Nero. Nero getting all those he fought up to two Sanctum battles and the False Saviour, while Dante would get along with the Saviour and bosses that would've been unique to him.
>>342646793
But what would be the point? He'd just use it like Red Queen only without rev. I don't think you noticed, but Yamato doesn't have an engine embedded in it.
>>342609139
>DMC4SE
>game looks barely better and runs at half the framerate
Top kek, people paid money for this.
>>342646884
It was a rushjob, but what can you do? All we can do is hope that the next game (if there IS a next game) does a better job incorporating the two of them.
>>342636927
>also his arm is a demon lol
Nice explaining it.
I still don't know why to this day why Nero has a demon arm.
>>342646910
>all swords have to work the same way
If you need a rev mechanic just use demon magic or some shit in place of an engine.
>>342646884
>play Vergil
>beat all the bosses first time
>get to the halfway point
>lol go backwards
>replaying entire game backwards with Vergil
>just fighting the same bosses again in reverse order
It made me realize how rushed the game is.
At least you get a different play style with Nero/Dante, but Vergil just fighting all the bosses twice is pretty boring.
He's fun to play though.
>>342647015
>(if there IS a next game)
And that's the question. IF.
With Capcom's current policy and how slow they are with mastering the Unreal engine it will be a very long time till DMC5 finally comes. It will in fact be so long that we'll have grandkids by that time it happens.
>>342647081
And he was supposed to have an actual demon trigger like Dante and Vergil, and instead we've got a Stand. But hey, like anon >>342647015 said, RUSHJOB.
>>342647081
He's 1/4th demon so 1/4th of him is a demon.
>>342644070
Good call
>>342645203
I guess since i played more of 1 that would be a better game to chose. I made it up to the boss that you have to keep those style circle things active or it turns into a puddle
Matthewmatosis's DMC1 video granted me a lot of respect for the game that I didn't appreciate when I first played it on the HD Collection
>>342646945
Muh Virgil.The way they handled virgils teleport really sucks, it would have been better if it was just a trickster button.
>>342644824
Yeah, the more I think about this, the more I want it. Dante's really amazing but Nero has this weight to his moves that Dante doesn't have. Smashing shit, going all pure brute force. If they made Nero even weightier and more brute force it would be amazing.
>>342647614
With Nightmare, those thing I said stand true. After he is in his 'solid' form, he has a few different ways he can attack you.
First, he shoots those tiny projectles that you can avoid by just moving around, and then he tries a bigger attack; for instance, he can charge a huge ice/laser beam or attack you with some spikes. The thing about those attacks (and jsut about every other attack in the game) is that while they hit very hard, they are also telegraphed pretty hard by visual and sound cues, giving you ample time to dodge and prepare a counter attack. In Nightmare's case, after every attack he will have one of three orbs (his 'cores', actually)exposed on him; you need to get close to these orbs and do the meanest combo you can (for this boss, I reccomend using Ifrit and charging your regular combo's attacks, it is very satyisfing and deals lots of damage to him too. While all of this is happening, make sure to shoot him with your guns and taunt when you can to build up your Devil Trigger.
In short, for every boss you have to study their moves, learn when you have to evade and when you can attack. Make sure to play it safe. also, every boss has some neat mechanics for you to learn; in nightmare's case you can parry his spikes and letting him absorb you and beating the 'nightmare world' he makes will do massive damage to him, among other things. Its up to you to experiment and learn other things.
>>342648087
I don't like it. He's kind of a brawler but more in a scrappy unrefined way than a slow heavy guy way.
>>342649196
That's just with Red Queen and Blue Rose. If you give him some alt weapons with even more power and momentum, it'd be amazing. Plus they'd be easy to use so it's perfect for a tutorial character like him. Give Dante all the complicated shit and give Nero a bunch of high-power weapons.
>>342649675
But that's shitty, slow heavy hitting characters just aren't fun to play.
I don't think the solution to his sluggishness in 4 compared to Dante is to make him even SLOWER and give him Bayo's chain-chomp or something.
>>342643287
Explain. He seems to not care about any disclosure and seems to have a carefree personality. I'd drink beer with him if I had the guts.
>mfw played all the way through both vanilla and SE 4 and still can't Dante
