Why are chaosfags so stupid?
>>342602614
Because they're essentially /pol/
Lawfags are cancer.
>>342602750
>>342602614
>SMT Metatron
>Loving
>Helpful
>Trustworthy
>A pretty nice guy
>A pretty nice guy
>A pretty nice guy
Confirmed for memeroo.
Currently playing SMT IV. Its my first SMT. After a while, I bought the DLC to grind app points because I had bought useless apps and gimped my character so I had to get the actually usefull ones.
Am I a casual?
You should only support the laws you believe in.
>>342602614
Fuck them both.
Natural master race.
Mission must be completed.
>>342603112
Lets be honest, more often than not neutral is just hitting the cosmic snooze button. Though if Mastema in SMT IV is to be believed then there could be a higher power than even YHVH that supports the neutral path.
>>342603112
Natural plebs are the most stupid
>>342603112
>black
>master race
lmao
Atlus generally makes every path in every game edgy in some way and at least half shitty.
If you chose Chaos route in DeSu you're literally retarded
>>342602614
Neutral good is the best alignment of all.
>>342603598
>Not siding with your millenial brother that got fucked over by god time and time again
Yeah whatever you say man
>>342603414
SMT IV's neutral path wasn't edgy at all
>>342603598
DeSu actually has good Chaos and Law routes though. Even Neutral/Yuzu's route was pretty decent thanks to the 8th day.
>>342604473
I need to play 3DS DeSu
>>342604652
best girl
>>342604636
You should. It's a lot better gameplay wise and the 8th days are really good.
>more demons
>more skills
>STR build actually viable end game
>has the fucking Compendium
>8th days
>has ashittydub
>>342604652
That is just wrong. We need a non-greedy fuck to rule the world and tell us what to do.
LawAnon is a retard, so go chaos
>>342604850
And who would that be? Can't be the forces of Law. Wanting to subjugate all of humanity into worshiping them and only them is pretty fucking greedy.
For anyone who needs it.
>>342602614
Metatron is so cool looking
>>342604652
What's with that horrible filter? How can anyone play like this? Everything looks blurry as fuck.
>>342604473
Yuzu is not neutral.
>>342604850
What a flawed, pitiful species.
>>342605858
Considering the game, it's the most neutral and the less stupid out of the non Chaos or Law endings in DeSu.
>>342603210
The Great Will is neutral.
YHVH was a part of The Great Will that became independent and The Great Will is not fond of YHVHs work.
>>342604473
Yuzu's route is the most retarded route in both versions of both games, even if 8th Day makes it slightly less shitty.
But I guess a garbage route tied to a garbage character and utterly useless unit makes sense. Just like useless, annoying Ronaldo and his shit route. Actually, he might be worse than Yuzu. But it's damn close.
>>342605310
Raidou deserves more love.
>>342603112
this desu
>lawfags
>>342606668
He gets a lot of love.
Please tell me SMT 2 has the worst backtracking in any of Megaten games. I don't wanna do this shit ever again.
>>342606975
I think it does yeah.
>>342606975
From what I've played it does. I don't think Nocturne SJ or IV have much backtracking through the same area.
>>342607228
IV has a fuckton of bactracking.
>>342607467
Only big backtracking I can think of is when you go through the different tokyos and backtrack through the same building
>>342607218
>>342607228
Thank God.
>>342607467
Half of 2 is backtracking. If IV's better than that I can live with it.
>>342608053
WUZ
>>342608298
SPACE
>>342608393
HOO
>>342604837
I want to lick Yuzu'spocky
>>342608626
i want to stick my face in between her fucking tits and lick them all over like BALALALALALALALALALA!
>>342608353
MEHREENS
>>342608393
>>342608503
>>342608740
AND
>>342608802
SIR
>>342602664
But most of 4chan seems to agree with /pol/'s opinions. They just hate their shitty meme shoveling bullshit.
>>342604837
the 8th days are stupid
>"Shit, we made a game where the law ending isn't blatantly worse then the chaos ending for once"
>"Better add an epilogue chapter where you beat up civilians for no real reason and otherwise act like a huge out of character prick to make things even"
>>342604473
>DeSu actually has good Chaos and Law routes though
naoya is the physical embodiment of *tips fedora* and a huge unlikable fuck aside, the only good part of that game besides the midori/keisuke subplots was watching that nerd break down when you don't play along with his plans
>>342609030
>>342606975
strange journey is worse because SMT2's backtracking is mainly during the osiris body parts bit, while in strange journey its the whole game
every single dungeon past the first one is designed to make you go in circles and you have to come back to previous areas to do sidequests or get materials to make new items constantly
There's no "good" ending in any SMT scenario.
You just do what you want. You're the one playing.
>>342609318
Benevolent King of Bel seems like a pretty good end in DeSu OC.
>>342608802
SHIIEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTWher da dimmin wimminz at?
it's a shame chaos and law are so extreme that neutral is better in virtually every circumstance except ones like SMT II Chaos where it's just blatantly written without flaws. the alignment system is really shallow and childish but reasons weren't much better, hope they can improve in the future
>>342609407
>>342609137
naoya is just as bad if not worse in desu, his entire ending/plot boils down to "hey abel, do everything I want even though I fucked you over 1000's of years ago and fucked you over again by dragging you into this bullshit, you literally mean nothing to me as anything but a pawn to win the war of bel and get hella power". his only problem with god is that it's not HIM in the position with unlimited power, he makes a big show of "oh im doing this for the people" but he blatantly doesn't give a shit about anyone besides himself.
the law ending doesn't ever show the big yellow face or even metatron directly so you exclusively deal with the more lower tier law types that aren't gigantic dickheads and actively want to help people, also you get to hang out with titty priestess instead of a fedora tipping hacker that wears chunni clothing, a character that wouldn't be out of place on /r9k/ if he wasn't anime pretty
>>342603112
Ve are nihilists LEBOWSKI ve believe in NOSSING
>>342609318
>there's no good ending
t. Lawfag
>>342609574
>with with
>>342602614
>Not capitalizing Lord
Traitorous Neutralfag spotted.
>>342602614
I haven't played an SMT game in a long time, which one has YHVH take you in as divine beings while leaving the world to rot if you choose him?
>>342609441
all the neutral endings are stupid too, every single one is just "I murdered everyone in the immediate vicinity" and then end on a note that obviously implies this shit will all happen again later because the majority of humans auto lose to demons
I actually liked reasons a lot better because they weren't just insane moral left/right/middle choices but more like a series of equally stupid philosophies
Come on guys, law is the choice of patricians.
>>342609025
Gotta admit that, its not the content but the presentation.
>>342609834
yeah neutral's flaw is always "it'll happen again later" but it's irrelevant since the games aren't connected, that or it's a reset ending. damn shame
Chaos and Law are indistinguishable. Anarchy is the most direct route to totalitarianism while Law is merely the rule of the strong over the weak - exactly the same thing it claims to prevent.
Why would anyone choose this guy's ending?
>Low level chaosfag ending
>Humanity is wiped out either by eachother or demons
>High level chaosfag ending
>Humanity is REALLY wiped out in the apocalyptic war between YHVH and lucifer
>Low level neutralfag ending
>Everyone important is dead, regular people get to live decently for another decade or so until all this crap starts again and someone picks a real ending this time
>High level neutralfag ending
>Doesn't exist because, again, neutral endings are temporary non-endings where nothing actually gets resolved
>Low level lawfag ending
>Something close to a utopia because it's just regular society but without people murdering eachother as often
>High level lawfag ending
>Hyper-totaitarian state where humans can't even be called humans anymore because of how repressed they are
the only game that has a law ending that doesn't change the very balance of the universe is desu, making it the only game with an ending that won't instantly go to shit 10 minutes after the game ends
>>342610093
He has the best girl, Otome on his team.
>>342610093
Idk but looking at the amount of art each character receives, he wasn't very popular.
>>342610269
But you can easily steal her.
Raidou 2 has the best Law/Chaos endings, because they aren't on a cosmic Lucifer vs YHVH scale, prove me wrong.
>>342605147
Wait a second
What exactly is P4 Arena Ultimax?
A sequel? A remake? The SMT equivalent of Dissidia 012, where the original game is included?
>>342610369
I can't
>>342610289
Ronaldo wasnt liked because he came off as a hypocrite, killed best girl Makoto if you side with him on Day 6, and acts spiteful when Yamato offers him a position in Merit ending.
>>342608739
Me too
>>342610486
Sequel to P4 and P4 Arena
>>342609025
/pol/ has the best memes even if you aren't a trump supporter
>>342610369
Those are also barely different and the choices for options are fucked up (I recall an option that would blatantly seem like a law choice instead giving you chaos points because it was the "nice" option)
story wise they don't matter and gameplay wise the game favors chaos over law the most of any game since SMT2. if making them irrelevant is the only way they make the entire system not stupid they should probably just throw it into the dumpster until atlus learns how to write properly
>>342610354
You have to be at level 4 Fate to steal best girl.
>>342610513
Pretty much exactly how I felt. Fucking asshole threatens my waifu, then has an autistic tantrum when given an offer to join. Fuck that guy. Also ega ending is retarded.
>>342610513
Also his stat distribution made him the most laughably useless unit in DeSu2. And his Triangulum path is painfully stupid.
>>342610551
Then why does it say it's "like a major expansion" and "generally the better version to pick up"?
It makes it feel like it's what P3FES is to P3
>>342610093
Only did it to see all possible endings. It really is shit compared to Yamato's wild ride or even the true ending.
>>342602614
Law vs. Chaos is basically "Which aspect of Hitler do you like more? Do you like that he was a shitty dictator or that he was a crazy social Darwinist?"
>>342610671
Easy unless you neglected her. She gains Fate rather fast compared to most others due her intro time.
>>342610745
I never used him, what's his stat distro? Also Idk anyone who would take his ending unless it's 100% completion. Fuck fighting all those stars.
>>342610808
They mean that in the fighting game sense.
As in you would want to get the latest Street Fighter 4 as opposed to picking up the original.
>>342610672
Egalitarian is stupid because its the secret law route: brainwash everyone into being nice and peaceful.
Fumi is the worst character Atlus has ever made.
>>342610823
>Yamato's wild ride
my man, I fucking loved Yamato's route, it had everything, good goal, worst character dies, Yamato is best bro
>>342610931
Your example is just as confusing
Obviously I'll take the newest version of the same game but it makes it feel like P4A and P4AU are the same game as well
>>342610998
Fumi > Yumi
>>342609206
Damn. Well, I'm not planning to skip a game so I should stop whining and get myself ready for that, I guess. Thanks for the input, anon.
>>342611114
>>342610998
Fumi is the best character. You just have to put more effort into making her moist.
>>342610963
Also society would stagnate. Man his ending is retarded.
>>342610909
He has high str and miserably low agl. He is pretty much always going to move last and is the all-time MISS champion. Also has more vit stats than a physical attacker needs for utility skills. Just worthless at everything.
>>342610909
I always do her fate. Honestly hers, Io, Fumi, Makoto, and Jungo have the best Fates.
I think Ronaldo is supposed to be balanced physical, but outclassed by Keita, Jungo, and Daichi.
>>342609030
Chaos 8th day was perfect though
You could either be the edgy tryhard king of bel or you could take the power of bel to raise humanity above the shitfest of angels and demons
>>342610998
Poor Trumpeter.
Fumi is cute af though, she even says she loves protag.
>>342611329
>tfw my MC build was like this the first time because trying not to get killed
>get killed a lot
Yeah multi-strike is much better, skipped vit for the most part in second run.
>>342611447
Agreed, I love their events.
>Jungo
>get him just before Nagoya JPs battle
>him and Fumi rape Ronaldo in a single turn
Man I loved using them.
>>342611562
>Not going full INT
I mean multi strike is cool and all but you already have Daichi already set to do that. His stats are literally screaming "PUT MULTI STRIKE ON ME BRO, IT WILL BE GLORIOUS"
>>342611767
you know what my stats are screaming?
to put my nuts on your face
*dunk*
>>342611767
Well I went
>str and vit
>str and agi
>mag and vit
>mag and agi
The worked out ok, I liked phys a mite better but Ziodyne early game was great.
Can we agree SMT 1's protagonist had the hardest life
Neutral path.
>>342612057
yes
>>342611562
Does she love him enough to sit on MCs lap and undress him in front of Beta Daichi and Io?
>>342611835
*it was an hologram*
heh... nice try... kiddo
*defecates on your shoulder*
>>342612135
Why yes, she does.
>>342611269
Would it stagnate to the point that the Triangulum shows up?
Make a contract with me, and become a Godslayer.
>>342612619
>Die
>Nigga revives you for free
thanks pham
>>342612619
Not going to lie, Poly Alliance were bro tier despite being villains.
>>342612473
Idk, egalitarian and meritorious aren't in the Triangulum arc, just a mix of Kingmaker and Triumphant. Probably would though, especially since Polaris didn't like it since it made the all the "potential" that was introduced in Yamato's ending nonexistant, so probably the next admin would attack again due to society's lack of it.
>>342611767
>INT
>DeSu
Mag you filthy casual.
But yeah you could have Daichi do it.
Or a demon. Or a bunch of demons.
No MC build is exclusive to MC. But in terms of overall power, just for MC, nothing beats 40Str/40Agi/MS/Pierce/Phys Repel.
Especially on NG+ when you can also get Almighty element physical attack to slap Phys Repel enemies with.
And frankly it doesn't hurt to have two OP MS team leaders, especially for clearing the rabble from the ultimate boss stage.
>>342602614
>Law and Chaos are shit on Apocalypse
>game literally forces you to go Neutral
Into the trash it goes
Am I the only one who that Miyako was retarded in Tri Arc?
>>342613220
The Law and Chaos options in Apocalypse are the same as the ones in SMT 4. So if you like those ones you can do them again.
>>342611767
Getting assloads of strength and using Multi Strike was hilarious. It was like I turned into Kenshiro.
>>342606064
But isn't YHVH himself the core manifestation of The Great Will as percieved by mankind? The point of SMT II was that YHVH's nature reflects humanity itself, and that a YHVH could become benevolent once humanity is at peace with itself. Maybe that's the true nature of The Great Will.
>>342613310
I was under the impression they cut the game pretty short when compared to all the content in the other ones
>>342613220
then don't play it faggot
>>342613425
You would be correct.
They are like how the White ending was in SMT4
>>342613405
Final implies that the Great Will is fed up with YHVH and been taking him down using Messiahs. Also, YHVH is insane because he has no equal.
>>342603112
this famalam
>>342612619
I've never watched MM and I know nothing about it but whenever I see Kyubey I always imagine him speaking in a deep, booming voice, like the way god would sound.
He probably actually talks like a kawaii desu mascot tho
>>342613890
He has a high pitched voice, yeah.
He also doesn't have a soul and only acts out of buisness, little girls lifes are part of the contract.
>>342602941
Max out negotiation with those points
Why is Lucifer necessary for so many fusions despite being the most powerful demon by default? I mean other demons have good stats but maybe 3 mitamas and Lucifer caps or near caps all his stats.
>>342612619
>celtic kyubey
no pls
>>342603112
>being an indecisive fag
pick a side or kill yourself
>>342619337
>le indecisive meme
If you honestly think Neutral routes like Strange Journey's or SMT4's are 'indecisive' you are delusional.
>>342609025
>But most of 4chan seems to agree with /pol/'s opinions
Please, /pol/ is an echo chamber of bullshit that breeds a community of retards that derail any thread they're in. No one likes /pol/ except for other /pol/ users.
