>D44M is number one best seller on steam
I thought you guys said it was bad?
>>342539321
Idk but I just bought it today cuz it was on sale and I'm having fun blowing demons into bloody bits while death metal plays in the background.
Most steam users dont have standards.
Hell most people here dont have standards.
>>342539321
Nah, most people here seemed okay with Doom singleplayer.
Its pretty great.
>>342539321
It's just the pirate cucks being bitter because they can't play it.
>>342539321
That's because we can't pirate it so we have to buy it if we want to make lewd webms
>>342539561
Lol
Even the multiplayer is pretty damn fun in my opinion
>>342539561
Rather, my standards are so high that the modern casual consolefags can't understand why someone would find the whole design of D44M revolting.
>>342540248
D44M is great faggot.
The single player was good and surprised everyone.
The multiplayer was outsourced and shitty, and that's all their marketing team showed off.
>>342541041
iD took over multiplayer now though, so it should become god tier in the coming months.
>>342541229
Can you stop this fucking meme? Yes, they will work on new content. No, they wont remake nudoom into quake multiplayer.
>>342539321
People only said it was bad before they played
Then all the noise died down because people realized it was actually pretty good
The rest were just shitposters and people who wouldnt be satisfied with anything but a 1 to 1 remake of the original
>>342539321
The multiplayer is bad, the single player is where the game made it's worth.
Not baiting, honest question I have:
Is there a singleplayer FPS that has been released in the past five years or so that comes close to Doom4 in terms of speed, challenge, enemy/weapon diversity, etc.
>>342541949
I don't want it to be Quake Multiplayer, I enjoy it as is, and new content sounds awesome.
>>342542228
I liked Shadow Warrior, but its definitely not as good.
>>342539321
play multiplayer. Beth launched MP beta and people HATED it. Turns out MP is developed by a separate team and id only make SP. And SP is pretty good.
Doubly funny, because Beth banked on MP with season pass. And no one gives a fuck about this shit.
>>342542268
>>342541229
id took over PC multiplayer. Old team still develops MP, id just tries to fix netcode and cheaters.
>>342539321
Sales aren't an indicator of quality.
But no, majority of the people who say it's bad are just John Romero samefagging. The Singleplayer is pretty fun.
It is a better sequel to the old Doom games than Dark Souls 3 was to the previous Souls games, and that game is a serious rehash.
>>342540248
So what games does a faggot like yourself play?
>>342539321
Solo is good.
Multiplayer is absolute dogshit.
>>342542862
id over PC is all I care about
It's one of the worst FPS games ever made. It's everything wrong with the FPS genre. It retroactively makes Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 look like a good game, which is a miracle because Black Ops 3 was complete shit where you shot endless waves of enemies for 10 hours.
>>342545427
Can you pleb any harder?
>>342542721
>Doom E3 presentation entirely about multiplayer shit
I hope Bethesda shitcanned whoever the fuck thought the multiplayer would be the big draw
No shit, it's the only game that hasn't been able to be pirated.
Also it's a decent deal for a recent release, so good on iD for that.
I wanna play it but my GTX 750 Ti can barely handle it.
>>342545574
>Can you pleb any harder?
Can you? Doom 64 is the only truly great Doom game. Everything else is pure pleb, and Doom 4 is lower than pleb.
>>342546128
fag
>>342546128
>doom64
>only great doom game
Ya got me hooked
>>342540248
D44m is a casual console game.
>>342539321
>opinions of a game aren't allowed to change after the full game comes out
>>342539321
No, we said the multi was bad, retard.
>>342539321
>tfw when i bought it on amazon for 38.99 when its on steam for 34.99
>>342539321
Any anons got any snap maps they worked on?
Popular things are bad, don't you know how this place works?
>>342539321
/v/ managed to successfully called out that the MP and SnapMap being a massive pile of shit
And it doesn't take much to get in the Top Sellers on Steam, plenty of games get on there after a discount
>>342547275
Multi is fun though.
>>342547397
You knew the steam sale was coming. The exact date was even leaked. Also, that's a difference of 4 fucking dollars. Get your shit together.
>>342547738
im a greedy bastard so seeing the $4 difference made my stomach turn. Oh well.
>>342539321
single player is pretty good, the complaints are valid but over exaggerated
multiplayer can be a little fun, but is grossly imbalanced and is mostly frustrating because there are so many game designs that clash with each other and make it a hot mess.
also the victory poses are almost all retarded, feel out of place (same goes for armor and gun customization), and look like they were mo-capped by a gorilla.
It is bad. You can thank genuine low standards and a very disjointed image being put out of what a good old school shooter.
/v/ just added a healthy helping of meme magic to the mix to push the few undecided skeptics over the edge.
>>342545739
>all planned dlc is multiplayer shit
Obviously they didn't learn.
Genuinely would like to know what makes doom4 bad? I haven't keep up with it at all
>>342539321
>Doom 4 is on sale for 40% off
>might not have the money to buy during the sale
>video card is fucked until at least winter, when I might consider buying a new one
It would be nice to have Doom 4 for cheap so I can play it when I put my bike away and hermit myself during the cold season. I've also got to make rent this month, and the belt's pretty tight.
>>342547885
You at least got the physical box with the sweet-ass reversable cover, right? Consider that worth the price of admission.
>>342547713
>we wouldn't have known the MP was going to be bad without /v/ "calling" it for us
phew, thank god for /v/. I mean, on average, a good 5-6 of you together have as much gaming knowledge as I did when I was 22.
It is seriously the best fps since the glory days of fps the only people saying it sucks are pirates and butthurt meme lords i.e. People who haven't played it
>>342540248
Holy fuck get over yourself.
>>342548041
got mine for 40% off plus another 20% on top of the reduced price on GMG the first week after it came out. don't know if they have/will do another sale like that though.
>>342548060
>You at least got the physical box with the sweet-ass reversable cover, right?
Im assuming it will have it since its the physical copy. If not, im going to hang myself.
It IS bad its terrible
>>342539603
but pirates didn't buy it anon.
>>342547924
gonna be honest the poses gave me a good giggle, its silly and kinda tongue in cheek IMO. I mean they have the carlton.
>>342548439
>but pirates didn't buy it anon.
because they're broke niggers who are cheap as fuck who dont want to spend any of their NEET money.
Hopefully this prompts more publishers to release demo's.
>>342545854
It's not though. And one game isn't evidence enough for the idea that that's the only reason. There are plenty of other games with Denuvo that failed completely.
>>342548721
Then why pretend like Denuvo did anything at all?
>>342539321
Gonna wait for xmas sale and get it for $12
>>342542228
Try Hard Reset Redux, and play it on Hard; not Normal or easy. Shit gets frantic fast.
Best FPS I've played in a long time.
Singleplayer is great.
People hating come from a bunch of different sources. Some are just trolls, others just hate these types of games, Some just hate for haterd sake, but most are just bitter. Hateful to the world and the fact that they cant enjoy video games. Dont kid yourself with their suggestions, They dont actually play them, Its games they used to enjoy before they let every issue destroy their experience. Your instinct is better than any advice you will get on this site.
My suggestion is just find someone who seems to like the same stuff as you. Look for recommendations of things you like and look at gameplay to make your own opinion. Dont listen to the buzzwords and choose what reviews to listen to wisely. There is nothing that can keep you from getting screwed over better than just being informed
>>342539321
It's a great game, but regardless, sales numbers don't equate to quality.
>>342548118
Most of /v/ didn't play Quake Live, so they never saw the first big red flag that showed that id didn't have clue what they were doing concerning multiplayer.
Took the news stating season packs and that the people that ruined Halo 4 multiplayer was making D44M's multiplayer before people start calling it.
>>342549247
>Some are just trolls, others just hate these types of games, Some just hate for haterd sake, but most are just bitter.
Beautiful man, simply beautiful.
Thank you for this insight in the mind of a Bethestard.
>>342547998
pirate fag?
>>342548960
butthurt broke pirate fag
>>342539321
Since when have sales ever been indicative of quality? Fuck, look at the movie industry.
>>342548439
Which is why most of the backlash was toward things that sound bad in concept but were actually great, like climbing in Doom and glory kills. Because pirates didn't actually play the game. They just watched people play it. And based off that convinced themselves that the game wasn't worth playing. They need that reasoning because if they ever considered that pirates might miss out on content available to paying customers then they couldn't justify their elitistism.
>walk downstairs
>housemate playing doom on his xbone
>disgust.flac
>asks me if i want to play for a bit while he makes a call
>after adjusting some settings and fov its not only playable but alsofun
Pleasantly surprised, COD/Battlefield feels like liquid shit on pads but DOOM has made me think that it might not be the pads themselves but braindead optimization for them by devs.
>get that one upgrade that gives you unlimited ammo
>run around unloading everything
a game this new has no right being this fun
there's some shit missing, like the rockin soundtrack, and the story attempt is pretty half assed, even for doom
I didn't like them linking doomguy to some ancient order of faggot aliens, either
>>342549181
Way too bulletspongey.
>>342552556
>there's some shit missing, like the rockin soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNkQMtZAMAw
you take that back motherfucker
>>342549181
This game was fucking atrocious. Clunky and ugly.
i was just gifted Doom and once it finishes downloading in 30 minutes i'll let you all know how much i enjoy it in my ass
>>342552556
>rocking soundtrack is missing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNkQMtZAMAw
>Story is pretty half assed
It's the best story any Doom game has had.
>>342553002
that came out wrong, I guess
I wish there were more rockin heavy metal
it only came on when you got ambushed by a big group, so it's cool they used it sparingly, but the doom1/2 soundtrack was so fucking catchy
>>342539321
The game uses too many resources to be modded. Maybe in 5 years or by some impressive leap in technology, new hardware will allow it to be as configurable as the original, but the way this works Bethesda will have released D55M, and people would had forgotten about this, for what is worth I am glad bethesda decided to make the season pass about MP stuff than can be ignored, for a moment I thought they would be smart to release this game equivalent to "Thy flesh consumed" along with new assets, or simply DooM Ep 1 fully redone in the new engine, or anything I would had liked to purchase.
Also if FO4, or D3 are any indication, the current user base literally never played the originals, so what they do have to complain about. The game itself is fun, I might pick it up at the end if there is really nothing else but DLC.
I mean what are you guys buying? I simply have DLC for Pillars, Shadowrun, and Endless Legend left, and I barelly play those, so it is between that or D44M.
>>342553310
>doomguy inherited his ass kicking powers from some faggy aliens
>not just being too hardcore for hell itself
you are wrong and gay
>tfw we'll never get proper classic FPS level design again because of the fanfare this game received, now we'll just be stuck with neo-old school shooter shit with static levels that have minimal to no moving walls and floors and constant use of locked arena segments
T-thanks
>Game that came last month
>40% off
Geeee i wonder why
>>342553608
As opposed to all those moving floors in the original? What are you talking about?
>>342553103
souper
>>342545971
I have an i7 4770 and a 750ti 2GB and it runs well on medium, 60 FPS and 1080p.
That reminds me to shit on ubisoft support because while it runs the divion was well, better cards do nothing for it because Massive has the fucking draw distance set on a aughable limit. Watch a GTX 1080 run in on ultra 4K and still look about the same as a 750ti due to the way it draws objects.
>>342553525
He got his powers so he can fight hell better, he was ass kicking hell without powers in the first place.
Like the Seraphim went "Oh shit, look at this guy go, I'll help him so he can be even more powerful."
monsters are surprisingly quick and can flank pretty well
are grenades infinite but on cooldown or something?
>>342553617
It is actually fun, especially at that price, and I will most likely do not give a fuck about it later in life.
It is a summer game, and just like that videogames have become movies.
>>342553923
Yeah, although I never used them.
>>342553608
Nigger the map design was top notch in nuDOOM
>>342539321
/v/ literally says every game is bad, especially true with popular or highly anticipated games.
>>342554050
yeah no
>>342553497
>Endless Legend
How is that? I've wanted some fantasy with my civ for a while but haven't gotten around to checking it out
>>342553996
I never really used them till nightmare, they're pretty handy for a quick fuck you
>>342553002
>mixture of heavy rock and dubstep
So close.
>Daam
When will this meme end?
>>342554517
That's not dubstep you dumbass.
>>342554517
okay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6BbvCC0VI0
howsat?
It's not. Only assblasted poorfag pirates shit on it because they can't steal it.
>>342554706
> fucking trumpet in the back
lol
>>342554517
Oh yes the non exsisten bass drop was my favorite part
>>342554706
Well this is more Death Metal. Not really something I can appreciate but I can see it fitting the game style.
>>342539321
are they actually redoing the multiplayer or are they pretending it is not garbage?
>>342554590
Only when companies stop making reboots and sequels that use the name of the first game in the series with no subtitle so that talking about it ends up being confusing forever and you have to start referring to shit by year of release.
>>342547397
That's just 4 bucks you fucking drama queen.
>>342553660
Doom had plenty of moving floors, they were just restricted to function only as elevators, crushers, bridges and floors that sink into lava because of engine limitations that limited their movement to only up and down and prevented any two objects being on top of one another.
As soon as the developers were able to overcome those limits and make floors fully 3D and able to move left and right, they went all out with the design concept as evidenced by the level design in Quake. That's a good example of building upon a game design rather than regressing it.
Were there even any instances of usage of elevators in the many combat arenas Doom 4 had? No. They don't mind borrowing jump pads from Quake III but they can't even follow the basic designs of the original Doom, let alone build upon it like the original id Software did with Quake.
>>342555115
I doubt it. They'll probably try to balance it but probably won't ever fix it completely.
>>342555030
This actually sounds really good now. I can definitely see myself shredding some revenants and cacademons to this
>>342546128
>I've never played any of the doom games.
What a megafaggot.
Post YFW doomguy actually stops and backups VEGA, that was fucking bizarre.
>>342540248
>This whole post
How pretentious can you get?
>>342555030
I dunno, feels more thrash/metalcore than death
>>342555482
>metalcore
shut up you stupid fucking nigger cunt
>>342555404
>the only entity to give a damn about what happened on the base and have regrets, that is willing to sacrifice himself to fix everything
And Doomguy saves it. That's a nifty bit of character development.
>>342555561
someone's grumpy
>Tried the DEMO
>Had launch problems
>Kept launching it repeatedly, finally worked
>Get in game, ultra settings, runs fairly well
>It feels slow, and too easy
The only thing I liked was the graphics and scenery. Gameplay was a snoozefest from the demo.
>>342555780
The demo is probably the worst example to go by for the gameplay.It doesn't really get ballbustingly hard and if you're collecting secrets and upgrades you will eventually trivialize most encounters.Then they give you Rich get Richer and armor from glory kills
I did enjoy the game however, but I wouldn't really call it too difficult unless you're playing on Nightmare, but at that point it's just punishing instead.
>>342548353
well you should probably do that regardless
>>342553608
Yeah, that's why we'll never get classic FPS level design* again. It's not because sprawling levels that change their layouts on a massive scale is really impractical to design, make and render while sticking to the current standard for AAA graphics or anything.
*The sort we keep getting more of on a daily basis out of Doom .wads anyway
>>342555265
Jump pads are like elevators, but don't slow down gameplay by making you wait for them. I'm really not sure what you're bitching about, Doom very rarely used them in combat areas, and when it did they were generally pretty annoying. Also you're really overvaluing moving platforms. They're nice and all, but they don't really add much. Again, they got pretty annoying at times. Its almost like new Doom learned from the mistakes of the past.
Singleplayer is fantastic. Never tried multi, but I got my money's worth with SP alone.
>>342539321
The multiplayer is dogshit. The actual game though isnt too bad which was a plesant surprise.
>>342555115
mp will probably never be completely redone but marty stratton already confirmed classic deathmatch is coming, and he also acknowledged feedback about people wanting playlists that disable hack modules and demons (the two things that ruin five out of the six currently existing playlists), and he said they could make playlists without that stuff. Additionally bot support and private matches will be coming soon so I'm thinking people could even make duel with that classic mode
>>342556567
See, that's all I need, the gameplay is all there, now it just needs those modes and it'll be perfect.
>>342556567
Unless Classic involves stupidly fast movement or bunnyhopping I don't feel like there's much point to Duel.
Item control would go like this: Down player goes to take item, Up player contests item, both players are slow master chefs, Down player loses fight on account of being the Down player.
>>342557137
>Item control would go like this: Down player goes to take item, Up player contests item, both players are slow master chefs, Down player loses fight on account of being the Down player.
Except for you mentioning speed this is basically how Quake has always played out at high level.
Being the down player has always been a huge disadvantage.
>>342557137
Well I believe classic deathmatch in snapmap actually speeds you up considerably over the default mp movement speed. Strafejumping apparently is in the engine but can only be enabled through the console, at least that's how it was in the alpha. I imagine custom matches will allow strafejumping. Only real problem is that most maps are just going to be stupid for duel. Infernal, Heatwave, Helix, maybe some others would be fine. Disabling powerups and the demon will be needed as a custom match feature of course
>>342553923
Yes, the grenade boxes you see instantly finish the cooldown
>>342555265
>Were there even any instances of usage of elevators in the many combat arenas Doom 4 had?
Yes, in Argent Tower imps come after you as you're going around the ring that bounces up and down.
>>342557307
The mechanics in Doom would still make it even harder to avoid the already pretty snowbally dynamics of dueling since the MP character isn't really agile enough to dodge much of anything. There's skill involved in hitting/avoiding getting hit in Quake but in Doom if both players are just decent at aiming way too often the fight is just going to come down to who can take more damage at the time.
I bought it at the supermarket on a wim and holy fuck this game is awsome.
>>342555404
I wish they'd moved Hayden's line afterwards, when he says "Thaaaank you, Vega", it sounds like he's thanking YOU for backing Vega up. Instead, it's not supposed to be apparent Hayden knows you did that. Cortana DLC when
>>342555780
>It feels slow, and too easy
This is why they should have opened the second level, not the first. The first is much easier from pistol start.
>>342555986
I went with reach+faster glory kills+better grenades for this reason. It's too easy if you take the best runes.
>>342556202
There's more to moving floors like I just mentioned, it's not just elevators.
And jump pads are not exactly like elevators at all. People so obsessed with "muh fast" when talking about Doom really do the games a disservice when they just talk about speed because there's more to the games than that. Having to wait for elevators gives your actions consequence. For example, I had a very interesting experience in a Doom 1 megawad I was playing a few weeks ago which really highlights the way moving floors and elevators can make varied and memorable encounter design. In the encounter, a couple of barons were firing from an elevated platform. They were restricted to that platform so I just evaded their shots and ignored them while I blasted away at the other enemies. After activating a switch that progresses the level and opens up access to an elevator, the platform the barons were on lowered so they became free to roam about and come after me. I still chose to ignore them because I didn't want to waste ammo on them and ran for the elevator to take me out of there. As soon as the elevator reached the upper floor, a bunch of former humans and a demon greeted me. I prioritized taking out the shotgunner because of its dangerous hitscan attack and let the demon rush me. Because of that, the demon was able to get close to me, step into the elevator and trigger it to go back down. The barons I avoided earlier and completely left out of the equation had been waiting at the bottom of the elevator. I was panicked and was unable to make a quick decision and take the less riskier option of running past the barons and out of the elevator instead of staying inside. The barons stepped into the elevator, triggering it to go back up. Stuck in the elevator while it's in transit, the barons and the demon were able to make short work of me. There's no way that experience could be recreated with a jump pad.
>>342558297
You have a point. If the movement speed is increased, that issue could be avoided. Still, making comebacks in duel really can be done with smart play, prediction, a little bit of luck maybe, I don't think DOOM duel would be quite as simple as those situations you are suggesting. I mean custom matches and classic mode are coming probably next month so I'll personally find out very soon
>>342558332
Why does it seem like enemies have way too much trouble actually hitting you or that you're actually anchoring them down magically with executions? I also noticed Revenants just don't seem to be anywhere near the threat they were in the original DOOM 2.
>>342559273
They made up for it by making Pinkies and Barons more annoying,
>>342559273
Enemies in Doom 4 aim at where you are, not where you will be.
Revenants don't have slow lazy homing rockets like before, and their damage is not nearly as high or as random.
Think of the enemies like how they are in Doom 1, the enemy selection mostly just aim AT you without a lot of variety in shots where they aim around you(Mancubi), repeatedly shoot at you(Arachnotrons) or homing(Revenants) and having them set up in ways to sort of make it hard to dodge.Not that Doom 2 took very good advantage of their new enemies though, the community is what made the enemies really shine
>>342559273
I'm playing not on a really hard difficulty cause I suck, harder they are very aggressive. And those are not the hardest enemies by far.
>>342558731
>There's no way that experience could be recreated with a jump pad
That's not true, I had a hell knight slap me into a jump pad which sent me straight into a mancubus. Generally the only unique gameplay elevators make is waiting.
>>342559273
Revenants don't have their homing shot, and enemies don't lead you anywhere near as much. Super noticeable with mancubi. Also you can jump out of the way of thing.
>>342540248
How can you type so well with your head so far up your own ass?
>>342553617
Because shit like g2a exists. It was $30 day after release.
>>342539321
it looked pretty bad pre release, the multiplayer beta was fucking awful and a lot of people thought the singleplayer would be as shit. it wasnt and we got a decent game, which is pretty good.
>>342547397
>I lost 4 dollars
Grow a dick, anon.
>>342559639
Yeah, then you just jump away from the mancubus and go back down again because you're not made to wait as a consequence of your actions. How is that similar at all?
>>342551032
>glory kills
>great
I beat it and enjoyed it but go fuck yourself
>>342539321
My computer can't run it :(
I'm sad.
>>342542228
Wolfenstien: The New Order.It's a little faster paced than Doom, in my opinion
>>342559952
And you just leave the elevator. Just because you fucked up doesn't mean there isn't an easy way out of that.
>>342559995
They're fine once they get sped up.
>>342560176
No way in hell.
If you like your Doom games with points of no return and lockdown sequences every 3 minutes then this game's for you
I played it, it's FUN!
>Not playing Doom 1/2 with Project Brutality
Shit's fun as fuck
Micro-missiles are something else.
>>342560313
you CAN play wolfenstein like a cover shooter but it's much, MUCH more difficult that way
>>342560508
Stop playing on Normal.
>>342545427
here's (you)
>achievement for killing the cyberdemon is called "shoot it until it dies"
>to kill him you have to finish him off with a glory kill
>>342555404
I was happy that the doomguy did a backup of VEGA
Game tried hard to be fun, a lot of the game felt like "oh this is the moment where I'm supposed to feel like a badass" and it was fun yeah.
Like getting trapped in a corner and rummaging through your inventory and remembering you had a bfg? yeah that shit was fun.
It's just a lot of the game was player created fun like ruins and shit. Some of the level design was well done, but fuck nothing really struck me as clever or memorable. Game just kind of washed over me when it was done.
I think the biggest problem was that it lacked polish or any feeling of developer touch.
How do I stop that valve leak in chapter 3? I may be too retarded to figure it out.
Its pretty good
>>342554904
>>342560205
I had a choice between chancing the elevator to go back up again before the barons could step in or run past them in a tight squeeze and risk getting mauled on the way or pressed up against a wall. The choice between the two is ambiguous and both decisions have significant consequence.
Just being knocked into a jump pad and into another enemy and jumping away again is a brain dead decision to make. You've been running from enemies the entire time in the game, you'll just do what you've always been doing.
>>342561041
You are really, really overstating the difficulty of your decision. It is no different than suddenly finding yourself catapulted into an enemy. Come on man, there are a million ways for you to suddenly be confronted by enemies in a level and have to choose how to get away. Stop pretending elevators were some kind of unique piece of level design.
>>342560945
Yeah, it also doesn't really feel like I could just pick it up and replay it like I do with classic Doom due to the story and lack of modability.
Fallout 4 is also a top seller and its basically doom 4 with guns
>>342539321
>listening to /v/ ever
shiggy
>>342561613
hol up
>>342561394
The scenario you described only involved jumping away again i.e. distancing yourself from enemies like you have always been doing in the game. It's in contrast to making a risk-vs-reward assessment and deliberately getting in close to an enemy to achieve a better tactical position. I don't know why you're having such a difficult time to understand the difference between the two.
>>342539536
uhm acktually it's industrial
BIG QUESTION
I know you PC gamers love FPS on PC, I do too.
But at this moment in life I don't have the funds.
My PC is outdated yet I enjoyed the game on PS4.
I spent more on my old PC but my PS4 can run DOOM unlike my PC.
I really wanna play it but PC can't but PS4 can.
So I'm on board with playing DOOM with PS4 rather than PC which I rather, but can't.
Should I buy it for PS4?
I mean it'd cost more to rebuild a new PC just to play this game.
>>342561035
>Mfw when I bought a DOOT shirt online the other day.
Im not ashamed.
>>342562063
I played it on the ps4, the aim assist was enough that it was just as fast if I were to play it on pc. It just takes a while to get used to.
Make sure you remove that smoothing thing and set the sensitivities correctly.
>>342561613
(you)
>>342561394
Do you really not understand what that other anon is saying? With the elevator scenario, you have certain degree of probabilities that you have to compute at breakneck speed, while also introducing into the equation risk-reward analysis and game theory. It makes for an incredibly complex and intense experience.
With a jump pad, you just fucking spam buttons.
>>342562436
> It makes for an incredibly complex and intense experience.
It's a scenario that doesn't exist in vanilla.
>>342539321
It was bad. Or, it was presumed bad based on the multiplayer.
The SP was much better than we expected though.
>>342564102
also no mods ever, just lame snapchatmaps
>>342560584
you're an annoying cuck
>>342555404
Doomguy is a major softy for anything that's not evil. Did you forget his love of bunnies in the originals? Also, take notice of how gently he handles the little dolls he finds. He's the kind of guy who'd go out of his way to help a brother out, while thinking nothing of ripping a bully in half.
>>342539321
GETTING GREAT REVIEWS AND SELLING SUPER WELL DOESN'T MEAN A GAME IS GOOD
>>342566759
Not to mention the best characterization is near the start where Samuel Hayden says what they did was the best for humanity and Doom guy glances at the corpse.
That says a lot of his character without any words.
>>342539321
>you guys
Can you think for yourself?
I'm convinced Doom 4 is the greatest shilling effort ever done on /v/. That or the state of neo-/v/ is even worse than I thought.
The game is extremely mediocre through and through.
>everyone constantly shits on the multiplayer
I get why you wouldn't like it, but you can't say it's objectively bad. If you enjoy Halo and D44M, you'll enjoy the multiplayer. I personally love it and I'm pretty goddamn adept at it too. It fits me like a glove.
>>342568204
Have you actually played it?
Please, tell us why the game is mediocre.
I am not saying the game is perfect by any means, but it is an enjoyable game and a good single player experience.
>>342545427
>playing Call of Duty for the campaign
D44M is fucking great tier. The only negative is the multiplayer, I seriously don't know what they were thinking with that. Campaign is absolutely amazing though, play that shit on nightmare too don't be a bitch.
>>342545427
Are you seriously complaining about shooting waves of enemies constantly? That's what the FPS genre is for, constant action.
>>342542228
Serious Sam 3, Hard Reset, Shadow Warrior, Wolfenstein TNO and TOB.
>>342568348
It's ok as a casual game but such games don't really have longevity for me. I hit max level and stopped playing
>>342539321
/v/ says Recore looks bad but from the impression that I been reading about since E3 have been positive. I see /v/ being BTFO again like they were with this game when Recore releases.
>still no classic DLC/expansion announced to give us all the classic maps from DooM 1 and 2 with both classic demons like in Wolfenstein and modern demons like we have now
I WOULD PAY FULL PRICE FOR THIS id WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING FOCUSING ON MULTIPLAYER WHEN YOU HAVE THE NEW QUAKE COMING OUT ANYWAY FOR THAT
>>342569440
Well they can't just back out of the season pass now. Additionally I see no problem with them improving the MP and adding new playlists, I paid $60 and would like more options and better modes
>>342539321
The first 5 minutes were cool until I got the Dev Mode Bug and had to reinstall
>>342549181
I ran through it on insane. It's a solid game but it felt like it had too many modern elements. You could tell what they were going for, if anything, but they fell short. Weapons don't feel like they have enough impact and even the dash mechanic doesn't make it feel very fast. It's not bad for what it is but it feels lacking.
>>342555596
His entire character is "Fuck Demons, Hell, and everyone who thinks they can control that shit."
