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Anyone played through the demo yet? You can get it if you backed the game for 60 bucks (although I'm sure you can just pirate it at this point)
Overall, I was pretty impressed with the gameplay, the way Miriam controlled, her model, the enemies, the equipment and shard system and the level design.
The backgrounds are very disappointing, though, very bland looking, very dreary (and not in a good Castlevania-like way) and colorless. Not to mention they clash with the much more colorful and beautiful models. Is there a chance they'll fix them for the full release or are we stuck with the uglyness?
I just assume that the level is a ship that travels to a castle. There will be more locations.
>Is there a chance they'll fix them for the full release or are we stuck with the uglyness?
It's a kickstarter game. Expect the graphics to somehow get worse.
>>342530084
Actually, that is the idea.
If you have seen the concept art, you would notice that the castle is located in the middle of the sea, with a small port in front of it, with a long bridge connecting to the main castle.
Boat is the tutorial stage, while the pier is the first location Miriam arrives.
>>342529807
I'm pretty sure they rushed that ship area just to show something at E3.
The castle renders looked much better.
>MFW it looks much worse than an 8 year old game for the Nintendo DS
JUST
What happened, Iga?
>>342530229
This so much. I have zero hope for any KS game.
It's gonna feel pretty great to have an igavania that plays like the DS games while not being 50% reused SotN assets.
>>342530229
Yeah somehow the backgrounds looked better a year ago.
>>342530448
It doesn't doe.
>>342530513
We can only hope they just fucked up with the ship and the rest of the game looks much better.
>>342530589
The backgrounds on the left look much better 2bh
Just finished the demo.
Holy shit it is really bad, boring as fuck, all rooms looks the same and nothing interesting to see or do. No exploration feeling as rooms are just copy pasted.
But despite the game (well the demo) being shit, I am more concerned by the fact that people in this thread find "fun" or "pretty good".
Have you guys ever played the first 15 minutes of any Castelvania game? It is nothing like this.
>>342530589
It absolutely does
>>342530189
Whoa. Brendan Fraser is a wanted man?
>>342530448
What happened?
>>342530716
Hey, you posted the exact same thing in the other 2 threads. I thought we didn't do reposts.
>>342530513
nice blurry video
of a different setting
moron
It's a fun little teaser thats for sure. Liked the Kung Fu shoes a lot.
>>342530448
The backgrounds do. It needs more color. Also note that the NDS over saturates the games a bit to account for the NDS screen. So a pure emualtor shot does not reflect how the games look when played on a NDS screen.
>>342530716
Gatdang she is uggo
H-mods when?
>>342531106
I want to envelop Miriam.
so has the demo leaked yet or not?
help
>>342530229
Welcome to the game industry. Downgrades-R-Us.
>>342531309
nigga do you think anyone here actually backed 60 bucks
>>342531349
I know for a fact at least one has.
>>342531346
I blame consoles and their laptop tier graphic cards.
>>342531349
This anon did. Damn it feels good to be a richfag.
>>342531318
what OS?
32-bit?
>>342531619
yes
im fucked right
>>342531723
yeppers
I liked movement and combat so far, wish for style reasons Miriam kicked with more than one leg though. Like alternating between two.
Also IF YOU START AN ATTACK RIGHT ABOVE THE GROUND WHILE FALLING THE ATTACK WILL GET CANCELLED WHEN YOU LAND REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Also Miriam should strike a post when you hold up like other Metroidvania games.
>>342531106
>>342531184
Reminds me of when I used to let myself get captured but the energy-sucking squid things in OoE or the Succubi in PoR
>>342531723
Sucks to be you, unless you have a 64 machine somewhere.
>>342530513
That's literally just flash shit m8
>>342532072
>IF YOU START AN ATTACK RIGHT ABOVE THE GROUND WHILE FALLING THE ATTACK WILL GET CANCELLED WHEN YOU LAND REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
this has been on every single Metroidvania
>>342532072
That's a good thing.
You can attack in the air, cancel the recovery, attack on the ground faster than normal and cancel that recover by backdashing.
Combat is pretty cool.
I liked it but like most people, would want better backgrounds.
>>342531349
>mfw backed for signed collector's box
I've dumped over 300 dollarydoos into this game, and so far it's looking to be worth every penny.
>>342530448
It looks fine
And I'll bet you the budget for this game is much smaller anyways, don't act like being on the DS made it somehow easier even though they're sprites
I wish I could report this guy for spamming this shit in every single thread?
>>342532464
It's just a boat. How much more exciting can you get?
>>342532464
What do you want a boat to look like?
>>342532527
It's a good investment, anon.
>>342532398
No it fucking hasn't
I know for a fact it's not in PoR at the very least, I always used the huge-ass axe and it will follow through after you hit the ground just fine
>>342531449
I blame PC's and their wide variety of hardware
>>342532464
>Most people
I seriously don't get what the beef with the background is, it looks fine
>>342532571
>>342532613
I want a boat that doesn't look grey and desaturated. It should have more color.
>>342532703
Do you see Miriam using a huge-ass axe?
And it's also the case on PoR, it's a sword thing, that's why they're faster
>>342532938
If you're a backer, you should request that. Tell us what they say.
The mega got taken down by the owner. Anyone else have a legit link?
>>342531349
>Not getting a physical copy
>>342532938
It is a cursed ghost boat that has been drifting in foggy waters for decades.
>>342532938
So you want a spooky decrepit ghost ship in the dead of night to look like a nickelodeon carnival.
It's a good thing you're not a game designer.
>>342532571
>>342532613
I guess a bit more color and actual lighting, though not sure if that's background anymore.
>>342532703
What are weapon classes?
How many IGAvanias have you even played?
>>342532938
>Open your control panel
>Crack up the saturation
>???
>Profit
How do i get the demo, is it in my email?
>>342533180
Because color and light make spooky things spookier. sure. ok.
the demo was pretty boring, easy as fuck and not much to do
jump cancels are also broken
>>342532938
Why does a wrecked ship need to look like a fucking candy shop? It's unrealistically bright as is.
>>342529807
It's exactly what I expected
plays exactly like the DS games full of reused assets and cheap budget, yet this is a big fancy console game that had tons of money thrown its way
IGA is a hack that killed castlevania by making the same game over and over and caused konami to make that shitty lords of shadow stuff, motherfucker still hasn't learned his lesson.
IGAvanias were fun, but this is literally just drawn of ecclesia with bad looking 3D visuals that don't properly feel like castlevania
>>342533248
My key went straight into the junk folder.
Also you need to have filled out your survey, apparently a bunch of idiots here didn't.
>>342533293
>jump cancels are also broken
it's a castlevania game
>>342533248
You should have received an email from Fangamer if you filled out the survey on time.
>>342533331
Make it darker, give it realistic lighting, and make the wood brighter. The colors in everything are desaturated too much so it looks greyish.
>>342533345
Look at you, tryhard.
>>342529807
Did anyone uploaded demo?
>>342533650
I apologize my opinions trigger you so
>>342533345
>IGA is a hack that killed castlevania by making the same game over and over and caused konami to make that shitty lords of shadow stuff, motherfucker still hasn't learned his lesson.
Fuck's sake I know this is a low effort shitpost and you just hate IGA but he fucking tried to make 3Dvanias. You cannot say he 'made the same game over and over' like he didn't try to make TWO 3D console castlevanias that still sucked yet STILL managed to be better than all other 3Dvanias not made by Iga.
>>342533286
I get not agreeing with more color but what's wrong with better lighting effects?
>>342532542
>I wish I could report this guy because he disagrees with me
Butthurt fanboy or desperate shill?
>>342532703
Wow you are a stupid asshole.
Most weapons cancel, heavy weapons don't.
>>342533560
No.
>>342533182
All of them but HoD and DoS
I'm positive Axe wasn't the only weapon to follow through on landing, too.
Just booted up SotN to check, and you're right about that one anyways
Still bugs me
Hope there's a huge 2-handed axe that follows through and takes ten years to swing
>>342533441
Who here likes haikus?
>>342533345
>full of reused assets
Look, I'm all for good pasta, but this is where you need to cook better.
Or is it?
>>342533754
Maybe they aren't done yet.
anyone have a new link? the old mega is down
>>342533753
if IGA attempting to innvovate is his 3D castlevania games then he actually is a hack because those games are near unplayablelegacy of darkness or whatever the second n64 game was is pretty good for its time, and it also actually felt like a 3D castlevania instead of just taking IGAvania elements and putting them in endless 3D hallways
>>342533560
Timber used for ships ain't light colored, less when they have been sea borne for quite some time.
Perhaps some darker shadows in the lower portions would be wood.
>>342530189
>people are lumping in someone who made some of the best games ever with some drawing ape who had almost no part in the MegaMan series
>>342533345
Nah fuck you
I wanted more Castlevania and that's what I got take your INNOVASHUN and shove it
I just want to play a castlevania now
I've played Aria of Sorrow, Circle of the Moon, and Symphony of the Night
and that's in order of most liked to least (crucify me for SotN whatever)
any others I should play?
>>342533872
The fuck are you talking about? The first two DS games and all the GBA games are full of reused assets from rondo/sotn. That's just a fact
Ecclesia doesn't but that game is also a series of hallways and has like 10 enemy types
>>342534020
order of eclessia or however you spell it
>>342531106
Here you go.
>>342534000
Sounds like that would impact gameplay.
Not being able to see the platforms isn't good for this kind of game.
It's better than nothing.
>>342534020
Dawn of Sorrow is probably the closest to Bloodstained in terms of controls.
>>342533785
Some anon in the last thread hacked the game files and found some planned weapon classes:
>clubs, kicks, guns, katanas, knives, large swords, normal swords, rapiers, spears, another type of a sword (code name TSword, but there aren't any finished) and whips.
>>342534006
They don't need to reinvent the wheel, they just need to give me literally any reason to play this over the IGA games that already exist. It controls the exact same. It has the exact same soul/equipment system. All of the enemies in the demo are just reskins of enemies from IGAvania games.
I already played those games and liked them, I can play them again. Why would I play this game that only features muddy 3D graphics as its big new feature.
"I just want the same game over and over" is what killed off this series in the first place
>>342534130
THANK YOU CON MEN
>>342533807
I hate haikus.
>>342534119
the fuck is this fanmade?
>>342534119
>Mfw someone creates a full porn conversation for bloodstained
>>342534095
Yeah, but you're going to have a hard time convincing me that Bloodstained is full of reused assets.
>>342534265
All the weapon types were revealed before the game was announced in their sword v whip site.
TSword is probably the whipsword.
>>342534020
portrait of ruin is the best IGAvania
for the sidescrollers the general consensus is that either rondo of blood or castlevania 3 are the best ones
>>342533119
>>342533139
See: >>342530448
Fuck off with your realism nonsense. Castlevania and Bloodstained are games that happen in a fantasy gothic world, the colors are vivid, like something out of a painting. This is how Castlevania has looked every since Symphony of the Night. Fuck, this is what the artwork for the damn game and the concept art promised, no, I'm not saying that the game needs to look as good as concept art, but it obviously should retain the visual characteristics that encompass it. Namely: The fucking colors that aren't washed out grey bullshit.
The picture that makes the comparison is fair, the picture on the left is from a sunken ship in Order of Ecclesia, and it looks much better than the ship in Bloostained
>>342533331
It should definitely have some darkness added to it as well. There's barely no contrast in the level, which is most likely why the colors are all so washed out.
>no mega link
>>342533785
Weapon/backdash canceling is a staple of the igavanias
You wanting it gone is fucking insulting
>>342534130
THANK YOU IGA MAN
>>342533962
>Legacy of Darkness
I hear good things about this for a 3D vania but many things put me off from trying it and now it's the last CV I've yet to play which makes me sad. Also, it's both cool and sad that they introduced a unique character like Cornell as the mc and that it's considered one of the only good 3DVanias with no Belmont/vampire killer wielders in sight.
>>342534173
It's better thanthe 25th anniversary game
>>342534417
Eh, they might not all make it in, depending on time and budget.
>>342534424
I'm actually not clear on what specifically Igavania means, is that just the more metroidy-style ones with abilities and shit instead of the older ones where fuck you here's a hundred medusa heads and dracula
>>342534286
New map to explore, new enemies. Some new cool platforming sequences.
For many of us, that's all it takes.
>>342534398
That isn't what I said.
>plays exactly like the DS games full of reused assets and cheap budget
It plays identically to cheaply made (if good) handheld games desptte being a console release. Game feels like a fangame with it's 1-1 copy of the previous games controls/movement and jank looking unreal engine 3D graphics
>>342533050
I definitely said as much on the survey, more people should follow along if they think it's a problem.
>>342534265
NO AXE NO BUY
Nah I'm kidding, I already bought it and I'll enjoy it anyways
Hopefully large swords have a fucktarded huge, slow overhead swing
>>342532464
They should make the level up animation faster
>>342534372
It's a sequel to a 2D platformer with a DMC style meter. He wanted to do a Metroidvania for the sequel, and just went with the Bloodstained design.
>>342534286
More of the same is fine, just not too often.
If you're tired of it then that's you. It's okay for you to not like this game.
That won't mean the game is bad.
>>342534450
Symphony didn't have vivid colors. The color palette is muted and realistic.
NDS and GBA games are over saturated to counter act the crappy screens. Emu screenshots do not reflect how the games actually looked on those screens.
>>342533293
>>342533419
what is a jump cancel?
>>342534614
Seems about the same as SotN, if anything it's faster.
>>342534286
>"I just want the same game over and over" is what killed off this series in the first place
If it was yearly thing I would agree but the last Metroidvania game I loved came out in 2006. A decade ago.
>>342534535
once you beat cornells story you unlock a somewhat trunciated version of the original castlevania 64 story with the belmont and the mage girl
it's pretty fun with the improved gameplay legacy of darkness added
>>342534586
you got it. they're called IGAvania because that's the guy that was in charge of castlevania as a series when they made all of them after SOTN was so popular
>>342534761
I feel like Bloodstained is a little slower
>>342534606
I did not complain, and merely said thank you on my survey because I'm a respectful gentleman who is considerate of services rendered unto me by my betters.
>>342534452
There's a torrent, use that.
>>342534860
I feel like you're forgetting how slow SotN was.
>>342534676
>SotN didn't have vivid colors
Eat shit
>>342534676
This is the concept art that was shown, this is what they said they wanted the game to look like visually. Again, I'm not saying the game needs to look as good as this on a pure technical level, but tell me with a straight face that these colors are even 10% as washed out as the actual fucking game, you stupid motherfucker.
Even in the actual demo, the rose effect, the menu, the interface, the models and the animation when you get a shard stuck into you all clash with the backgrounds that look completely lifeless in comparison.
Im really tempted to back this for 60 bucks for the physical copy
But that march 2017 release date is so far. Can I still get the demo?yooka laylee better have a physical copy for the public ;_;
>>342534978
VERBOTEN
>>342534676
this pretty much
>>342532464
I can see that level up animation giving speedrunners nightmares already
>>342534265
>another type of a sword (code name TSword
Maybe it's twin swords.
>>342534878
Where?
>>342535027
Holy shit what a dull, colorless game! TOTALLY
>>342534978
Those aren't vivid. They're pretty dark. The color palette is dark and realistic.
>>342534265
>guns
FUCK YES
Soma gun runs were fun as FUCK
>>342535004
That is not a picture of the boat. Are you kidding me?
>>342534978
Nice Deviantart picture.
>>342534978
>Dull backgrounds
>Bright objects like candles, to have them stand out for gameplay
>Bright spells
Wow this is almost exactly how Bloodstained works!
>>342535107
Kickass.
>>342534587
I can respect that but like, every previous IGAvania had a unique feel to it
circle had the cards and the fact that you only had whip/subweapons like an OG castlevania
HoD had the sonic speed dashing and the magic/subweapon combo stuff
the sorrow games had souls had future tech like guns
portrait has the two character mechanic
ecclesia has glyphs being a combination of weapons and spells from previous games and the fast regenerating MP bar
What does this game have? The soul system but also the item crafting from curse of darkness which is just an excuse to add even more rare item farming?
Compare that with sotn where you have so many options and abilities and unique rare items, which made sense because it was a big console game and the other IGAvanias were handheld games. Am I just expecting too much of this game?
>>342534943
I played it recently, it feels slightly faster than this.
>>342535065
The finished game is going to have a speedrun mode isn't it?
I imagine they'll be happy with that.
>>342534860
Your eyes deceive you.
>>342535235
>>342535185
Get your eyes checked, Bloodstained is nowhere near this colorful in terms of backgrounds you cancerous fucks.
>>342535235
>Dull backgrounds
Ayy lmao
Compared to Bloodstained, that background looks like Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
is there a new demo link?
>>342535138
Nice emulated and not accurate at all screenshot with ugly filters.
>>342535413
You've literally seen one environment and you're acting like it's the entire game.
Choke on a bag of dicks.
>>342531723
what os?
>People outright pretending that the backgrounds being posted here from Symphony of the Night look as bad and colorless as Bloodstained's
The fuck is going on? Is this a new meme? Has everyone lost their mind?
Maybe the wrong place to ask, but since its sale time, are there any good multiplayer Castlevania on Steam? I know there was one on XBox and PS3, but I don't know if it ever came to PC.
>>342535215
Hell yeah.
Hey drawfags.
Some pics of Miriam's GUNS would be appreciated, thanks.
LOOK AT ALL THIS LACK OF COLOR, I SWEAR
>>342535004
I do not have it at hand right now, but one of the screenshots showing the different shaders have a more varied composition.
Like others have said before, this is a pre-alpha demo.
>>342535506
Hey, dipshit, we're criticizing what we can see, we're criticizing what we were allowed to play. If the demo section looked better, then we obviously wouldn't be criticizing how it looked.
>>342535621
Nice filters.
CASTLEVANIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN WASHED OUT AND MUDDY, DARK LIKE MY SOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLL
the problem with the visuals isn't so much the colors as it is the asthetic overal
there's no blood, there's no monster boners, there's no insanely satisfying stab sound effects when you hit stuff. these are all important things of real castlevania games that aren't in this demo. instead you just sort of hit a thing and it falls over
this sounds like a silly complaint but these little touches are a big part of the feeling behind castlevania, and since this game mentions sotn roughly a 100 times in its promo materials and the EXACT SAME feeling to the combat/canceling I don't think having the same feeling is too much to ask
LOOK AT ALL THIS LACK OF COLOR I-UH WHOOPS
>>342535724
You don't need to throw a hissy fit about it and shitpost in every thread about how it doesn't look like Willy Wonka's Chocolate factory.
I'm absolutely certain other zones will have color, they seem pretty set on their stained glass motif after all.
Just give Iga your feedback and shut up about the damn saturation.
Yes I'm mad.
>>342532464
Having level ups tied to damage or the amount of hits you land as opposed to enemies killed just seems odd. I leveled up while I was still fighting the boss. It totally kills the flow of the gameplay when you level up in the middle of a fight.
>>342535561
that multiplayer game was really bad
anyway there's no castlevania multiplayer games on steam, no
>>342535715
I'm not arguing with you, mate.
I'm arguing with people that are excusing how it looks, not with people that say that this is still a Pre-Alpha or that the rest of the environments might look better. It's certainly possible you're right. I hope you're right. But we're talking about what we can see right now.
DARKNESS, FILL KINGDOM FARTS WITH DARKNESS AND LACK OF COLORS
I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW WASHED OUT THIS GAME'S COLORS ARE !!1!
this looks kinda bad without the shaders and other effects.
>>342535954
I'm throwing an hissy fit and you aren't? And what do you mean "every thread"? This is like the second time I comment on this game this year. Perhaps other people are justifiably having the same concerns I'm having.
CASTLEVANIA IS SUPPOSED TO BE COLORLESS, DEVOID OF LIFE AND DEAD, LIKE MUH GEARS OF WAR
>>342536061
Too bad the fucking demo doesn't look like it, get cancer and die IGA shill.
JUST LOOK AT HOW MOTHERFUCKING MUTED EVERYTHING IS!
>>342535621
>>342535835
>>342536015
>>342535874
>>342536061
just fuck already
>>342536061
We're obviously talking about the ship level, you know, the one we actually got to play and see in motion. Are you daft?
>>342534595
>That isn't what I said.
Fair enough. I should have taken the other to interpret that sentence into consideration.
>>342535295
I think it's a bit early to judge. SoTN is a weird game. For me, it's one of those examples of bad game design that nonetheless works.
It does so by no giving a fuck and cramming a cornucopia of options. I ant to say most, but memory may not serve well, but at least a non-insignificant portion of those options come from items drops.
It really is up to the people who're making the game to do the same for Bloodstained. Iga has proven that he's willing to let the talent in the team get some leeway into introducing cool/weird ideas. Which is part of why SotN is endearing, you can feel how much everyone behind the game loved their craft, and tried to insert some ideas. Some of them ridiculous and useless, and all the more cool for it (the peanuts or size boosting shoes for one).
>>342536121
Looks kinda bad with them too.
DIDN'T YOU HEAR? CASTLEVANIA DOESN'T HAVE COLORS, IT'S ONLY NATURAL SHITSTAINED SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY EITHER
>>342536153
It's just you, tho. The Vocal minority. Have you ever considered working for the Humanities dept of your local College?
>>342535874
>>342536061
>>342536164
>>342536194
Impossible to properly judge until we see it in motion. No one here has said that the entire game looks like shit because obviously the whole game isn't even fucking done yet. We've been saying that the ship looks like shit.
>>342536061
>breast tattoo
my new fetish
>>342536437
The ship looks like a ship.
>>342536190
haha, im in your head
CASTLEVANIA HAS NO COLORS GUIZE
>everyone is so mad about colors
>Check out the game
>3d models
And into the Mighty Number 9 pile it goes
why does she walk so fuckking slowwww
>>342536548
I'm pretty sure it's just one guy. Whether he's being ironic or has autism, I can't tell.
>>342536378
>It's just you, tho.
You literally just said that I've been saying this every thread, despite the fact this is the second Bloodstained thread I post in this year and despite the fact there are two or three posters aside from me posting right now and criticizing the backgrounds just like I did.
Have you perhaps considered the fact that there can be such a thing as more than one person with different opinions than yours? Do you suffer from Schizophrenia?
>>342536548
We're mad that a 10 milion dollar game looks like shit, when the previous games made under Konami under MUCH smaller budget looked thousand times better.
It's not just the colors, the animations are shit, the models are shit and it uses awful low poly 3D like the Rondo remake because they are too talentless to make sprites.
>>342536529
>>342536327
>>342536190
Don't think I've seen this one before, which CV is it?
>>342536437
You are delusional if you think the boat doesn't resemble a boat.
>tfw windows 32 bits
IT'S NOT FAIR
>>342536378
It's not just him, though. I agree with him.
>>342536609
because it's a castlevania game
if you want fast you backdash or divekick everywhere or wait until you get the go fast ability
>>342536496
>>342536717
We're back at this shit again? I'm just gonna copy-paste what I said already.
Fuck off with your realism nonsense. Castlevania and Bloodstained are games that happen in a fantasy gothic world, the colors are vivid, like something out of a painting. This is how Castlevania has looked every since Symphony of the Night. Fuck, this is what the artwork for the damn game and the concept art promised, no, I'm not saying that the game needs to look as good as concept art, but it obviously should retain the visual characteristics that encompass it. Namely: The fucking colors that aren't washed out grey bullshit.
The picture that makes the comparison is fair, the picture on the left is from a sunken ship in Order of Ecclesia, and it looks much better than the ship in Bloostained
>>342536529
Nice edit.
>>342536665
Adventure Rebirth, Wii exclusive. It's a remake of CV Adventure from the original Game Boy, a Classicvania.
>>342536761
Literally only true for SotN (and HoD but that's because it has forward dash). Every single post-SotN Castlevania had backdash being slower than normal movement.
But keep on being retarded, you clearly never played the fucking games you literal paid shill.
>>342536663
How do you know what the budget for the DS games was?
>>342536842
Why are you getting triggered by a boat, LOL?
>>342536871
IGA himself said their budgets were being drastically cut from game to game hence why they were reusing so many enemy sprites and that Ecclesia had a budget of less than half a million.
>>342536842
>We're back at this shit again?
Because you keep arguing about shit you're obviously wrong about.
>>342536991
I was asking for a source.
>>342536842
tbqh this post is just as mind numbingly stupid now as it was 40 minutes ago
>>342536969
Honestly, the boat itself merely disappointed me, the only thing that's triggering me is the fervent defense of it.
You're like the fags in official game forums trying to defuse every possible criticism anyone has for the sake of sucking the dev's cocks.
>>342536654
I haven't been in every thread.
So obviously there's a lot more people here who disagree, or aren't here because they're too busy playing the demo.
A better use of your time would be making your concerns known to the team, that way you can feel depressed with their lack of response, knowing they won't entertain your silly man-child desires.
>>342537040
>>342537095
1) The sunken ship of Order of Ecclesia looks better than the ship in Bloodstained, they're both ships
2) The concept art promised something more colorful than what the ship looks like
3) The ship has no contrast, it's bright and washed out
>>342537059
https://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/igarashi-on-castlevania-judgment-and-budget-concerns/
>>342537148
Anon the purpose of this board is for people to disagree with each other.
If we didn't then one of us would be redundant.
If I've never played Castlevania games, but Super Metroid is my favorite game, should I get into it? If so, does one just play them from the oldest to the newest or are there games I should skip etc?
>all those literal MN9 tier shills that clearly never even played Castlevania before spewing objectively wrong bullshit such as backdashing being faster than regular movement being norm in CV games which is flat out false and applies to only 1 game
That's how I know that all these threads are just post-purchase rationalizing morons and literal shills.
>>342537148
You don't have to autismally defend everything, you know. It's just 4chan.
>>342537302
But I'm not the one arguing that you're the only person that disagrees with me. You're the one who said that.
And I already made my criticisms known in the survey.
A better use of your time would be to not be butthurt responding to a criticism, but we're all here wasting our time on /v/.
>>342537348
Where in that article does it say OoE had a budget of $500k?
>>342537445
Kill yourself.
>>342537542
It says that Judgement had abysmally low budget. Is that not enough for you?
>>342537515
I'm not arguing that either. You brought it up.
I'm sure they will take your concerns seriously.
Personally, I think the boat is fine.
Let's all just calm down.
>cult of personality
Death of games.
IGA didn't make those games. A team of talented developers made them, IGA was the ideas guy.
Ideas guy alone does not make games.
Bloodstained already reflects the lack of talent of the new development team.
>>342537445
I played SotN late, maybe four years ago.
It's still glorious to this day, doubly so if you don't know any specifics about it.
If you've somehow managed to stay blind leave this thread right now and go play it.
when is this getting released again?
>>342537727
Works for me, thanks m8.
>>342537713
I didn't bring it up, you're the one who said:
>It's just you, tho.
>>342537343
>Why is the ship in Ecclesia relevant
>You don't know what the word promise means
>This is true
>>342537515
>>342537721
He brought his team members. He ain't stupid.
>>342537615
Konami is a big company.
Their idea of a small budget can vary.
If you have no exact source it's impossible to compare the budgets of Bloodstained and the DS games.
I don't doubt that they were being cut over time, but it's not impossible for them to still have been more than Bloodstained.
If you can't provide a source then we simply don't know.
>>342537827
Oh my god, drop it, sperg.
>>342537829
The ship in Ecclesia is relevant because the excuse being given to the ship in Bloodstained looking bad is that "it looks like a ship". Ecclesia's ship also looks like a ship and on top of that, it looks good.
I know what the word promised means, concept art is supposed to show what the developers want the game to look like. Obviously it can't be 1 to 1, but it's supposed to represent it
And if you agree with me that the ship lacks contrast and is washed out, then why are you arguing with me?
>>342537928
what game is this?
>>342537445
Seeing as you're a Metroidfag, you want to play all the Metroidvanias.
Namely in release order:
Symphony of the Night
Circle of the Moon
Harmony of Dissonance
Aria of Sorrow
Dawn of Sorrow
Portrait of Ruin
Order of Ecclesia
You may also want to play at the very least a few of the Classicvanias, namely Rondo of Blood (SotN is a direct sequel to that), Bloodlines (PoR is a direct sequel to that) and the classics that are Castlevania 1 and Castlevania 3 (you want the fantranslated Japanese version called Akumajou Densetsu, has better balance and music quality).
And then there's the 3D Castlevanias which are also Metroidvanias, namely Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness. Lament is prequel to the entire series and Curse is a direct sequel to Castlevania 3.
>>342537928
Colors
>Green, check
>Red, check
>Blue, check
>Brown, check
>Purple, check
>Yellow, check
What are we missing here? Pink?
>>342529807
It was ok, might buy it depending on the price. But no buy if there isn't any barefoot Miriam in it.
>>342536121
what the fuck were they thinking with this boss design? What is it even supposed to be?
>>342538082
Castlekino: Kickstarer Under Moon
>>342537926
I wonder what a pachislot budget looks like.
Do you think it looks like dead dreams and old people?
>>342537926
IGA literally said his budget for Bloodstained being 500.000$ (that was the Kikescammer pitch) was already more than he had at Konami working on DS games.
http://www.wired.com/2015/05/koji-igarashi-bloodstained-kickstarter/
Go shill harder.
so will someone post a download link or not?
>>342538215
BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT
>>342537861
He didn't. Only Michiru Yamane is on the team.
I don't see any of these people working on Bloodstained, do you?
http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Symphony_of_the_Night_Credits
>>342537928
those have a low chance? i got the soul like in my second one
>>342538215
Can't view that site because it doesn't like adblock.
>>342538140
>What is contrast
>What is lighting
>>342538140
>no contrast depth
>everything is washed out
>no detail definition (the fucking OoE sprites at 1/12 resolution have 200% more detail)
>this thread
/v/'s autism knows no limits
>>342538431
Move the goalposts even harder.
>It’s going to be more expensive to produce than a typical Castlevania, Igarashi says, because he can no longer re-use the assets from previous games to keep the budget low. But Bloodstained already has secured enough funding to proceed.
>The Kickstarter, with a goal of $500,000, is intended to accomplish a few things. First, should it take off, it could significantly increase the game’s development budget. Second, the team hopes it will generate sufficient funding to print the game on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One discs for those players who’d rather not download.
>>342534286
New areas? New weapons? New Souls to play with?
>>342534586
Igavania is just a word they coined to be able to say "Metroidvania" without having copyright issues, or more specificlly meaning CASTLEVANIA GAME MADE BY IGA
>>342538647
We're arguing about saturation.
Don't try and stop us.
>>342538357
IGa said 1% I think
>>342538647
God forbid we expect the game to have the same level of quality as previous Castlevania games which had 1/20 its budget.
>>342538737
To be fair, Nintendo is pretty trigger happy with their lawyers.
>>342538431
Use uBlock.
>>342538894
No it's fine.
I've never gone to a website that blocks adblock and thought "I really need to visit this site."
I just leave.
>>342534265
>katanas
of course
>>342538647
Autistic /v/ is better than memer /v/.
At least we're talking about something
>>342536869
>>342537491
in portrait backdash -> tag -> backdash is how you go fast for many parts of the game
likewise in ooe with backdash -> attack -> backdash
the only igavanias that don't have backdash canceling of some sort to go fast are the sorrow games (instead you just jump/dive kick constantly) and circle of the moon (which gives you the ability to run in the first 20 minutes)
I said you backdash OR dive kick because the overall point I was making is that you never go fast in igavania by just walking anywhere, there's always something else you do
Why are you so mad?
>>342538326
That's his old team. And they all use pseudonyms.
>>342538835
And again, for the hard of understanding in the crowd, those games could afford to be that cheap because the makers could recycle assets like crazy from game to game.
A luxury this game doesn't have.
>>342538979
They had a user poll to determine the strongest weapon in the game.
Katana won.
>>342535138
Stained glass windows aside that's a very subdue palette.
>>342530189
>Two can play that game
>>342539036
In Portrait you literally need to equip the special backdash boots for the backdash to do anything at all. Faggot.
>>342539076
You are so fucking deluded holy shit, the game it being made by Inti Creates, the same faggots who co-developed MN9.
>>342532464
How did you attack so fast on the ground? I get the jumping attack but is there a way to level up your attack or something?
>>342539132
first sign this game was gonna be a letdown desu whip shoulda won fuck the weebs
>>342538048
Because a ship lacking contrast and being washed out does not make it a bad looking ship. Whether or not it happens in a fantasy world doesn't make a difference, you sound like an idiot by acting like it does.
>>342539120
AND IF YOU READ THE FUCKING SOURCE I PROVIDED, IGA ALREADY SAID THAT HE NEEDS THE 500.000$ ON KICKSTARTER BECAUSE THE GAME WILL COST MORE THAN THE DS GAMES DID, AS HE CAN'T REUSE
ERGO, HE NEEDS THAT 500K IN ORDER TO MAKE A GAME THAT DOESN'T REUSE ASSETS
HE GOT 4 MILLION + 6 FROM THE INVESTOR
THAT'S 10
DS GAMES HAD LESS THAN 500.000
DO
THE
MATH
FAGGOT
>>342539242
Attack in the air
Land (cancels air attack recovery)
Attack on the ground
Backdash (cancels ground attack recovery)
Attack
Three attacks in rapid succession.
>>342539253
The problem was that the poll had three whips to vote for, which split their votes too much.
>>342539182
>steering up false reports
welcome to ban
>>342539253
Alucard didn't use a whip.
>>342539253
The poll was fucking rigged against the whips because it was split into 3 categories, all those 3 whips combined had overwhelmingly more votes than TELEPORTS BEHIND YOU
>>342539215
tag cancel backdash is faster then moving
not as fast as slide kick tag cancel but still better
why are you literally figuratively so mad?
>>342539342
Or the DS games cost less than 6.5M since the investor money was in the bag from the get go.
>>342539182
>It takes Three to tango
>>342538215
>500.000$ was already more than he had at Konami working on DS games
Jesus fucking christ. They barely allowed him to exist.
>>342539537
I mean, there were three swords too, but who the fuck would vote for a broadsword or rapier over a weapon that's been folded ten gorillion times?
>>342539591
You're deluded if you think a DS game with 70% recycled content had bigger budget than say fucking Witcher.
Christ, I really hope future threads aren't plauged by this MUH BACKGROUNDS autism.
>>342539679
Witchers' budget was 300M and 600M on advertising.
>>342539342
Yeah, right, so HD definition, everything has to be built from scratch - including up to the production pipeline itself...
And that's before mentioning the Kickstarter commission, the taxes to pay on that Kickstarter money, all the backer rewards...
Yeah, I'm doing the math alright.
>>342539591
Not him but even if you were to assume that, Bloodstained still has a considerably larger budget while looking a lot worse.
>>342539636
they wanted to kill all of their ips off and looked for a good reason. iga didn't let them by making games using a box of matches, a rubberband and a shoe and they still brought in profits.
>>342539242
>>342539376
If you stop the backdash by crouching you can keep backdash-cancelling the ground attack too.
>Muh backgrounds
It's a fucking ghost ship adrift salty waters. What kind of fucking colors do you want it to be?
>>342539696
I hope it's just bitter MN9 backers trying to find something else to tear down in their salty rage.
I doubt they'll leave though, chances of having a good Bloodstained thread here now seem slim.
>>342539696
People are being ultra critic with any kickstarter after the whole MM9 fiasco, and for good reasons
>>342539735
Cool shitpost, kill yourself.
Witcher 1 was 2 mil.
Witcher 2 was 10 mil.
Witcher 3 was 100mil.
That's in dollars.
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Witcher-2-Cost-10-3-Million-Make-58698.html
https://www.vg247.com/2015/08/26/the-witcher-3-6-million-copies/
>>342539743
>the Kickstarter commission, the taxes to pay on that Kickstarter money, all the backer rewards...
Also the cocaine parties.
They are an important part of any Kickstarter budget.
I don't care about backrounds but that Sea tit monster has the WORST color scheme ever
>Use washed out colors whole game
>Suddenly oversaturated RGB
No sir.
>>342539743
>Bloodstained
>High Definition
HAAH
WAAW
IT LITERALLY LOOKS FUCKING IDENTICAL TO THE PSP RONDO REMAKE IN TERMS OF BACKGROUNDS
BUT DO GO ON SHILL EVEN HARDER.
>>342539912
To the point that they'll nitpick silly things like the wood being too washed out on a ghost ship, before seeing what is actually good about the game.
They've all got angry reviewer syndrome.
>>342539840
Play Castlevania and find out you shiteating sack of nigger turds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zS-edxcpL4
>>342540010
If there's one thing I'll trust your opinion on, given your quality of posts on game development, it's cocaine consumption.
>>342530716
Nice copypaste, familia.
I must feed you some (You)'s so you can shitpost yet another day. Mmmmmmm, does it taste good? Here comes the helicopter!
>soisoisoisoisoisoisoisoi
Cool post purchase rationalization faggots, but nothing you say will change the fact that with much higher budget IGA made a much worse looking game if the demo is anything to go by.
>>342540040
Still not that good.
I don't mind the original but she was a pretty lame boss.
>>342540040
MY GOD
LOOK AT THE SIZE O' THOSE EGGPLANTS!
>>342537754
March 2017.
>>342540063
M8 do you know what high definition means
>Giant Oppai Tentacle Monster
>>342540318
Who here predicts DELAYS?
>>342535235
>Dull backgrounds
>Vivid greens through the window
>Deep purple night sky
>Dark red curtains
>Gold trimmings and embroidery
Yeah sure buddy
Did they get some amateur hentai artist to do the art and design?
Everything looks fucking horrible.
>>342540348
Yes, it means resolution you goddamn moron.
>>342540063
What was the resolution on those DS games already? Does bloodstain have to run on 1920*1080?
>>342540135
It's funny, people were being pretty positive in general and constructive in their criticisms. Look at OP and: >>342532464
The autistic fucks are the ones that started a fight out of it, see:
>>342533119
>>342533139
>>342533237
>>342533331
>>342533286
>>342540181
It's mostly grey and brown, your point is? Fucking retard.
>>342540063
Shame you got a tosater, m8.
>>342539840
See: >>342530448
Both pictures are of ships. One looks much better than the other.
>>342540456
>let's pretend i wasn't half of the shiposters in that slap-fight
>>342540434
Shitstained is 720p/1080p (the only resolutions you can pick in the game).
DS games were 256x192
GBA were 240x160
PS1 was 320x240
PSP was 480x272
Wii was 640x480
>>342540460
Go see an ophthalmologist.
>>342540545
Cool projecting ad hominem faggot, but alas that's the only thing you can do.
>>342540456
I'm struggling to see how "People want better backgrounds." is constructive criticism.
>>342540434
why are you holding this modern console/pc game that has way more budget to the standards handheld games from a decade ago that mainly used sprites from 20 years ago?
>>342540669
>castle
cool
>ghost ship
cool
What's yer point?
>>342540656
I'm none of the people I quoted in that post, my man.
>>342540643
The OoE one have lamps every 4 feets, of course it looks like that. Remove some of them and the ship would be grey, too.
https://youtu.be/fsfb_aSFtYM?t=3m29s
PSP 3D Castlevania made for lower resolution and on lower budget, has much better art, color and lighting design than your Shitstained.
>>342540675
>Looks too washed out and there's no contrast, the colors aren't vivid enough
Can't get any more constructive than that.
>>342540390
I predict delay with deliveries, but they already announced the game will launch properly, and get the extra modes with future updates.
So, asynchronous multiplayer, vs multiplayer and all that shit will get updated later.
Core game will arrive first on time if we are to believe them. Make of that as you will.
I personally will believe.
>>342540672
You're the one who said it wasn't High-def.
Nice job outing yourself.
sprites on a tiny screen will look better then most 3D by defualt because the sprites have less detail so your mind fills in the blanks
with 3d models unless they look amazing will have more detail but not actually look very impressive, so you just look at it and realize its bad
>>342540669
I don't get it
there really isn't that huge a difference, when you consider that one is in a castle and one is an old ship
have we seen any screenshots of the main castle yet?
>>342540672
>Judging an entire game based on a single stage, meant for show on a convention.
>>342540915
Rendering resolution literally requires no fucking budget effort to implement you goalposting moving ad hominem shitflinging cocknigger.
>>342540802
What's funny is that the OoE ship actually has contrast and darker areas while also having vivid colors, whereas Bloodstained looks like it has a lantern pointed at it.
>>342540893
Can't get any more opinion than that.
>>342540767
> t. Anon
>>342540838
>Playing the game of PPSSPP without scaling up the internal resolution
Good lord that video look fucking disgusting,
I'd love to play the demo to form my own opinion but it just keeps crashing on start
>>342540981
>E3 KNOWN TO ALWAYS HAVE BETTER LOOKING DEMOS THAN FINAL PRODUCT
>BBBBBBBUT THIS TIME ITS DIFFERENT, ULL SEE, ITS TOTALLY NOT SHITSTAINED: DESATURATION OF THE LIFELESS
>>342540986
Said the technically illiterate plebian who has never written code in it's life.
>>342541004
What do you think constructive criticism is? 100% objective? You're not very smart.
>>342540838
>DXC, the remake of Rondo literally everyone shits on now being used as an argument against an actual new Castlevania aimed for consoles, something we could only dream of around the time DXC was announced
Go fuck yourself
>>342540672
That was a purely rhetorical question, but thanks for taking the time to provide an answer anyway. No irony.
>>342540696
I'm not actually. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous it is to compare the budget of this modern game with those of the 10 years old handheld games. *Because*, the new game has to go for a higher standard, and doesn't benefit from all those shortcuts the games it's being compared to had.
>>342540986
LOL what goalposts?
You're the dumb motherfucker that said it wasn't hidef!
>>342536190
god rebirth looked like garbage
>>342541169
Yeah like "This part of the game is broken, it actually doesn't work." rather than "I think it should be darker here."
That's constructive criticism.
>>342541074
>I have no counter arguments so I'll resort to ad hominem and insult the video creator instead
>>342541142
Seriously go die you fucking shill
>>342541180
It's being used as an example because despite being such a shitty game it still has much better art than this.
But nice goalposting moving.
Post purchase rationalization never fails, like clockwork.
It's pretty sad that people expect good games from devs who literally can't make good games.
>>342541265
>>342541372
>>342541407
Nice shitposting.
>>342541372
What about pre-buy rationalization?
Haven't supported the Kickstarter, and this demo makes me confident that, if they can keep up the good work, I'll be buying this day one.
>>342531106
I'm sure /vr/s very own Galaga guy is losing his mind over this.
>>342540975
The ship looks stupid with more saturation.
It's the characters that need a saturation increase.
>>342541372
but I didn't buy anything
>>342541532
Then you clearly never played Castlevania and have horribly low standards.
>>342541560
Characters need saturation increase, the backgrounds need contrast increase, they're washed out to hell.
>Demo
>Sea monsters has gigantic tits
I'm out.
>>342541585
Or you, know, I have played them all since the MSX days and I'm not a shitposter.
I personally don't like the artistic direction that much on that demo, I would prefer more vibrant colors too - at the very least they need to do something about that clashing of boss and level. UI too to a lesser extent.
But as of what it shows of the game components? At that stage of development? I'm thinking this is pretty promising.
>>342541265
I don't care about arguments, i only care about playing PPSSPP on native is giving me eye cancer, so fuck you.
>>342541946
Thanks for providing a screenshot that makes Shitstained's lighting and color direction look like ass.
>>342541946
I'V JUST MET A GIRL NAMED MARIIIAAAAAA
>>342541946
OH GOD THOSE WASHED OUT COLORS WHAT IS THIS A KICKSTARTER GAME!!??!? OH MY FUCKING GOD!!! HAUNTED BOATS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO LOOK SO WASHED OUT WHAT THE FUCK MUH AUTISM!!! MUH AUTISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>342542052
>That'll show 'em
The Shitpost.
>>342542157
It actually looks a lot more colorful than Shitstained
>>342533180
I really don't like the animation for shards. It's way too cinematic. Also I hate that they're keeping with the shitty method of farming spells off enemies.
>>342542375
I like it. It's well made.
Honestly the ship looks more like a dramatic mood setter that you're about to leave a shitty, dreary situation into a castle that's going to be pretty damn trippy and filled with all sorts of abominations. Yeah the lighting and contrast suck, but it's nowhere as terrible as you people are making it out to be, I can see the enemies and protagonist pretty well.
My main problem is that the UI is so zoomed out, a simple UI scaling option wouldn't hurt at all. And personally I think the game is copying its inspiration a bit too closely for its own good, everyone sees it as 'the not Castlevania with tits' and that's pretty much what it's billed as.
I'm hoping that those aren't the final ship enemies the Knights felt out of place there for example. Hopefully just what's done already was thrown in.
I kinda want this game to fail.
Maybe Im just mad it got way more than YookaLaylee even though it had absolutely nothing at all to show except a girl.
>>342542524
>Yeah the lighting and contrast suck, but it's nowhere as terrible as you people are making it out to be
I don't know about the others but I'm not making it out to be anything worse than mediocrity. I still expected better.
>>342542571
>Wanting to play N64 collectathon game No. 256.
>>342542524
>Honestly the ship looks more like a dramatic mood setter that you're about to leave a shitty, dreary situation into a castle that's going to be pretty damn trippy and filled with all sorts of abominations.
Good point, and that could work actually.
>>342542571
I feel that way about Yooka funnily enough even though I joint backed it with my gf cause she's a huge BK fanI just think Banjo is overrated as fuck compared to Mario 64.
I'm sure plenty of people feel that way about IGAvania games though.
>>342542571
>I kinda want this game to fail.
FUCK
YOU
>>342542628
You couldn't build a better alpha in one year, anon, let's be realistic.
>>342542734
Fuck yeah I do. Its been a long long time.
>>342543102
You overdid it, but it looks better.
>>342543141
O-ok. Well. Um.
Enjoy.
>>342543102
That looks awful. What is this Call of Duty?
>>342543102
Don't stop, keep pumping up the color till it's an oversaturated garish mess, only then can you appease the nitpicky autism itt.
>zero information on the director, programmer, level designer
>fame hogging producer
>re-uses MN9 team from Ini-Creates
Get ready to be disapointed.
>>342543454
That Sonic screenshot looks thousand times better than Shitstained though.
>>342543102
Mmmhhh... maybe the color palette is more where it's at. Which would be a shame, that more work to fix.
>>342543534
F-f-f-f-filters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>342542239
You're absolutely right about that shitty PS1 quality game using saturation and contrast miles better than Bloodstained. It nicely draws your attention to the terrain you can walk on and the background is properly desaturated. Unlike the splotchy mess of lights here: >>342538074
But when you keep calling it Shitstained you're like one of those free software sperglords who might actually know something but nobody's gonna notice because they use "M$ Winblows" in every sentence
>>342543748
B-but m-muh s-shitstayned!
>>342543542
are you the same guy calling it shitstained last night, as if trying to make a silly meme
>>342543838
>>342543831
>>342543748
Shitstained shills at it again.
>>342543748
ROLLED GOLD TOLD
>>342543891
well aren't you a mature moral guardian of vidya games
>>342542239
I guess sun-bleached wet wood really triggers your assburgers, huh?
>>342543892
This looks like a pic for a Creepypasta.
>>342543892
I-it's b-beyooteeful!
M-muh s-shitstayned!
>>342544178
I hope it ends with Miriam appearing under the narrator's table and his dick blowing up.
>>342543892
Perfect.
A true Castlevania spiritual sequel.
>>342544459
Blowing up because she's sucking on it, right?
why anyone would still want to play a side view game in 2016 confuses the shit out of me. unless you're like a 30+ year old manchild and cant let go of 1994.
come on, imagine if this was 3d. do you remember the american mcgee alice game a few years ago? that was fucking amazing and this would be even better!
>>342543892
LOOKS AT THIS GORGEOUS ART DIRECTION, FUCK
THE FUTURE'S SO BRIGHT I'M GONNA NEED SHADES
>>342543892
Max contrast actually highlights the problem really well. See all those colored spots in the background of that screenshot that draw your attention around randomly?
Now look at this DXC screenshot with its contrast slider turned up. All its background elements were mild enough to fade out, leaving only the terrain you should be looking at.
>>342543892
SHITSTAINED SAVED
/v/ HAS DONE IT AGAIN.
>>342544636
You know who's afraid of the past?
Convicted criminals.
>>342544636
your mindset is why we had a metric ton of shovelware and garbage 3D games in the PS1/Saturn era due to the push for 3D and the shit heaped on 2D games
>>342544636
Do you remember the 3d castlevania games and how mediocre they were
>>342544636
You're in the wrong part of town.
You want CoD, go play CoD, wankstain.
>>342544728
Another thing to note about those areas is that they are a slight teal color of wood in normal gameplay. I like their ideas of hue changes for the background, but there needs to be a clearer way to give more depth to the structure of the boat or give focus more on the playing field.
>>342545130
I had no trouble discerning where the playfield and background were.
Some colorblind options are needed in the final version.
Will we ever get rid of tortanic syndrome or are we doomed to suffer through the dogshit some people spew
The backgrounds look great. You people seriously need to get your eyes checked. There's plenty of color for what is supposed to be a sinking, dilapidated ship. The only thing they need is a bit of animation.
>>342545649
>Tortanic syndrome
Only applies when the game is failing and the company resorts to damage control.
>>342532703
Try it again with a longsword or knife or general "one handed" weapon
>>342545837
but how are you supposed to know where to go without more colors
did I hear "Kraken Tits"?
>>342546073
The map?
Character placement in the beggining of the stage?
>>342546235
but those aren't colors anon
>>342546112
That boss is a technocolor mess.
>>342546112
So are the bosses in this game people infected with the glass aids or are they just demons>
Can someone rip that beautiful background music?
The boss and main menu are cool, but the level music is glorious.
>>342546668
I believe the OST is on YouTube. Go look around
>>342545931
I meant this
>>342546668
I looked up on the files and it show two big sound files on different formats: one it's in .ACB and the other is in .AWB
Does anyone know how to convert them into a more common format?
>>342545931
And how is this game anywhere near what you're talking about?
>>342547108
Only the main theme and another that I don't recognise are out there. That one is still yet to surface.
>>342547138
Same, I wish I knew.
>>342546668
I found it good, but not great+catchy like the soundtrack of... well, almost every Castlevania game (not even only the Metroidvanias)
I'm hoping the rest of the songs are great+catchy
>>342547115
Yeah but the boats represent MMO's
>>342547491
He's using tortanic syndrome to describe people who want to see this game fail, like /v/ commonly did to MMO's after tortanic but in this case it's about proving how kickstarter is bad.
>>342547601
just check the last thread dude, there's a mega link with all the music from the demo in there
>>342547604
>You will never be a giant and suck on those cow tits while mouth fucking that stomach-maw
Why live?
>>342547715
The boats don't represent anything except the first one
>>342545837
>There's plenty of color for what is supposed to be a sinking, dilapidated ship
I don't think this is a legitimate argument. Ecclesia's ship is sunken and it still looks better than this ship. Realism is irrelevant.
>>342548312
I'd say the crab boat is at least GW2.
It wasnt bad for a game thats very WIP.
No enemy in the demo was actually threatening or even attacked really they were just there for you to kill.
The attack speed needs to get way faster though or at least a double attack. I liked that their was different weapons like kick attacks confirming foot jobs for foot fags.
>>342547115
Unfortunately for you, this "syndrome" you're speaking of does not absolve the games you like from criticism.
>>342547604
look at that tentacle blink into existence 14 seconds in
>>342548651
Oh my god, into the garbage it goes.
>>342534265
you can get all these types by just going to the menu, weapon equip then pressing x.
tsword = throwing sword.
>>342548481
>Ecclesia's ship is sunken and it still looks better than this ship.
Actually no it was an ugly mess.
>>342548651
Looks like the tentacle was refreshing itself due to a change in the animation. It was already there prior, since it's the one coming out of her right shoulder.
Probably an animation error.
>>342548481
It was a clusterfuck of color. You know who loves color? Babies.
>>342548874
but anon
the colors
the colors man
>>342548874
Actual contrast and proper consistent lighting, colors are more vivid, looks much better, even if the model is not as detailed.
>>342547138
Found the BGM in last thread
https://mega.nz/#!fV432AhI!EM_hyter5V1nBIekJyo30F-SwIm4dwP6Vgy7c_94YTM
>>342547764
Found it, thanks
>>342549035
Yeah, Bloodstained should try to go for the Gears of War theme for mature gamers such as ourselves.
>>342548620
>criticism
>it looks like shit
>it doesnt
>it does
>it doesnt
>fuck off
>you fuck off
>scam
>cuck
>faggot
Here just saved you 20 months of bloodstained threads and criticism, no need to ever enter these threads again
>inb4 hugbox
>>342549098
You're comparing a finished game to an E3 demo.
>>342548874
Pic unrelated? That looks better than Bloodstained.
>>342548874
Bloodstained looks fine, but that definitely looks better 2bh famalam
>>342549235
Babies learn to talk fast with prolonged exposure to shitposts.
>>342549286
So? If the ship looks better on release, then I'll be a happy camper. That's exactly why we should be offering feedback.
>>342548874
What's with all the brown and pixels everywhere. Someone anti-alias this bitch up.
>>342549481
Then offer feedback and don't talk about fucking colors on a boat on /v/
>>342549481
This is not the place to offer feedback. The devs will not see this.
>>342549284
It has poor contrast and lighting, the colors are way too washed out, this is why I believe it looks like shit. This is a criticism. Don't lump me in with whatever shitposting wars you're talking about. I haven't talked about cucks or scams.
>>342549635
You're shouting at an echo chamber, anon.
I can stomach the artstyle
I can deal with the gameplay, tbqh it feels really similar to SOTN which I played not too long ago
But what I absolutely can't deal with is that they just copy pasted stuff from a really lame tileset.
There are no unique rooms that make sense in that ship, no kitchen, no piratey-treasure-storage, no crew quarters, no dedicated cannonball and cannon storage thing. They desperately need to hit that "I am in a believable place" thing they had with all the castles in the other games. It completely lacks a soul. Here's to hoping they deliver on the final product in terms of area design - then they get my shekels.
>>342549607
>>342549632
I have provided feedback on the survey already.
The whole reason why we're discussing this is because OP talked about the game being ugly, another anon agreed and then a few anons came in and argued that it looks fine. I'm merely arguing that it does not, in fact, look fine.
>>342549764
that's a perfectly reasonable thing to say anon, thank you for sharing
it's only for backers, and i'm a fronter.
>>342549764
Which "tileset" are you talking about?
>>342549815
It looks fine. I doubt it will be changed.
>>342549961
I worded that badly maybe.
The one they created themselves for this demo. Its just rather limited in variation.
>>342549098
>>342549316
>>342549363
Are you kidding me? The colors look like a fucking Battlefield cover.
>>342549764
>I can stomach the artstyle
I can see why a lot of people are not going to like it
>But what I absolutely can't deal with is that they just copy pasted stuff from a really lame tileset.
>There are no unique rooms that make sense in that ship, no kitchen, no piratey-treasure-storage, no crew quarters, no dedicated cannonball and cannon storage thing. They desperately need to hit that "I am in a believable place" thing they had with all the castles in the other games. It completely lacks a soul. Here's to hoping they deliver on the final product in terms of area design - then they get my shekels.
I completely get what you mean, they always had those in the past games, specially on Metroidvanias.
>I can deal with the gameplay, tbqh it feels really similar to SOTN which I played not too long ago
>deal
it plays just like most of the Metroidvanias, you shouldn't have to "deal" with it, it should be what brings you in
>>342550126
Not really an issue for a Castlevania-style game.
>>342549961
tileset isn't the right word he should have used, but the rest of his post his rigth. They tried to match a ship's shape, but the single rooms lacked character. Like the place where you get the flame thing, it could have been the storage for gunpowder and cannons, but the room looks exactly like any other. This kind of thing
Can I run this on a toaster or are the requirements heavy?
>>342550086
I disagree. I think it looks bad and I agree with the other anons on this matter.
As for what can be changed. I'd expect at the very least the lighting and contrast to be changed a bit, but I'm not very hopeful about making the colors more vivid.
>>342550179
echo
echo
echo
>>342550323
I disagree. I think it looks fine and I agree with the other anons on this matter.
It won't be changed in any significant way.
The shitposters have evolved. They're learning.
ABANDON THREAD
>>342550482
Alright, then. I suppose non arguments are better than "BUT IT'S A SHIP"
>>342550482
The lighting will absolutely be changed in a significant way, no way they would fuck up that badly.
>>342550736
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. But I do hope you'll drop the passive-aggressiveness next time.
>>342550960
Funny, since the faggots that started acting passive aggressive (or outright aggressive) from the get go were these dipshits:
>>342532542
>>342532571
>>342532613
>>342533119
>>342533139
>>342533237
>>342533331
Low-resolution, low-detail games like OoE had to exaggerate the colors to make the graphics look appealing. With high-detail HD graphics that is no longer necessary, so the color palette can be more subtle. But some people still prefer the exaggerated colors from low-res stuff. There really is no wrong or right answer here. It all comes down to preference.
>>342529807
Everything I've seen of this fucking game looks like it's rehashing the BARE MINIMUM, most basic aspects of the Castlevania series, as if they have absolutely no new ideas whatsoever. Zero. They don't even know what are the good parts of Castlevania to emulate.
>>342535004
this shit looks like mobile tier videogame.
The demo is better.
>>342551607
>that is no longer necessary
It absolutely is necessary, since the HD graphics of Bloodstained still look much less appealing than the less detailed more colorful graphics of the DS Castlevanias
>>342551659
What are you talking about? The game is a direct continuation of the gameplay style from Iga's Castlevania games, which is exactly what backers wanted. What is the issue? What "good parts" have they neglected to emulate.
>>342551985
Again, it's personal preference. YOU think the DS games look better, but this thread alone shows that many people disagree with that.
>>342552327
That's fair. I can only hope I'm in the majority, because these dull backgrounds look like shit.
Do you need a controller to play this, or is my computer just shit? I can't seem to attack in the demo
>>342552454
For what it's worth, the background shown off with the shader test and the various pieces of concept art we've seen look much more vivid. My guess is only the ship and a possible underground/catacombs area will look less colorful like this.
>>342552206
Maybe it's just me, because I've played every single Castlevania game at this point. The series is dead to me. Nothing in any footage of the game looks new or interesting as a result. It's still just the same type of game since SOTN, which we've had a dozen of (rough estimate), except it looks slower and less stylish here. SOTN had serious style that no other Castlevania game has yet to replicate well.
Honestly, this game looks like it's targeting kids now who aren't very familiar with the series, or who just played the very last released games in it. Which is fine. But to me it offers no improvement over past titles.
How long is the demo, anyone know?
>>342534265
>Spears
TAKE MY MONEY
>>342534003
>Was only a producer for every castlevania with one exception. The only game where he had any job title that might have been more was as an assistant director a position with questionable input on the end product, but also a single circumstance.
Totally means he's responsible for how good that series was and not at all comparable to Infafune the businessman. Keep that damage control engine fueled, you're going to need it when the game launches.
I can't get the game to run. It goes to a black full screen, flickers then returns me to my desktop with the music playing.
>>342552931
Well I can't speak for the others but I've been playing the series since I had Simon's Quest as a little kid in the 80s, and I've played them all ever since. I'm fine with the way the game is shaping up, as it's the classic SotN style of gameplay, done in HD, well over eight years after the last proper entry in this style.
I get what you mean about it looking derivative, but that's kind of the point. Honestly there's probably a limit to how much they can innovate and experiment precisely because the game was sold to backers as a classic SotN styled experience. If it gets a sequel that isn't crowdfunded I think they'll get a bit more creative with the formula.
>The series is dead to me.
It's dead to everyone unfortunately.
>>342553703
Except the Bloodstained demo is already better than the entirety of MN9. Don't worry anon, you'll find your next TORtanic one day.
Crack where?
>>342552680
Someone please answer this, I want to fight some monster titties
>>342529807
>mfw still no demo
>>342554571
mouse controls attack in the demo
>>342536378
I agree with that guy though. I would like to see more
>>342554675
Ah. Probably shouldn't have been playing on mylaptop. Thank you, anon
>>342554576
Better than having a demo that won't even run.
I'm fine with the look of the ship as long as the entire game isn't like that. Not every area can be colorful or it will lessen the impact. But if the entire game somehow ends up with dull colors then it will be an issue.
—Today we have developers Koji Igarashi and Toshihiro Furukawa here to talk with us about Symphony of the Night. To start with, please tell us what games you’ve been involved with up to now.
Igarashi: Detana Twinbee (PCE), Gradius II -Gofer no yabou- (PCE), Tokimeki Memorial (PCE), Tokimeki Memorial -forever with you- (Saturn).
I herd u liek Twinbee
>>342533345
He tried making things fresh but you'd bitch about that too. There's no pleasing you people.
>>342529807
Quick post your face when you didnt back this!
WHERE'S MY DEMO
> Y to attack, can't use while jumping
> X to jump, press again to do an attack in the air
Not sure if want...
>>342534130
Thank YOU CON MEN
>every Castlevania game after SOTN has been an adaptation of SOTN
>but a true SOTN 2 still does not exist
God fucking damn it. All I want is to play as Alucard again, in an even BETTER game, without the 500 excess useless items and piss easy difficulty and gay leveling up system.
>>342555778
Good sequels are just more of the same.
Bad sequels take out the good shit and shoehorn gimmicks no one wanted to try and attract the casual crowd.
>>342556304
A good sequel would take out the bad shit too.
But who cares about sequels. I actually want to play a reboot of SOTN. A pure hack and slash action game, no leveling up, no inventory / equipment, and no having to find / unlock skills. You start with everything, and there's a bigger focus on the spell casting system which was utterly pointless in SOTN, and a bigger focus on learning the mechanics via increasingly complex and difficult boss fights. All wrapped in a similar aesthetic that SOTN had, playing as Alucard, inspired by western mythology and classic art, etc.
Too good to ever be true. A man can dream I guess.
>>342554521
You don't even need a crack, it's not even tied to steam.
![1465388442309[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/DXTWYdr.png "1465388442309[1]")
