Anyone played through the demo yet? You can get it if you backed the game for 60 bucks (although I'm sure you can just pirate it at this point)
Overall, I was pretty impressed with the gameplay, the way Miriam controlled, her model, the enemies, the equipment and shard system and the level design.
The backgrounds are very disappointing, though, very bland looking, very dreary (and not in a good Castlevania-like way) and colorless. Not to mention they clash with the much more colorful and beautiful models. Is there a chance they'll fix them for the full release or are we stuck with the uglyness?
I just assume that the level is a ship that travels to a castle. There will be more locations.
>>342529807
>Is there a chance they'll fix them for the full release or are we stuck with the uglyness?
It's a kickstarter game. Expect the graphics to somehow get worse.
>>342530084
Actually, that is the idea.
If you have seen the concept art, you would notice that the castle is located in the middle of the sea, with a small port in front of it, with a long bridge connecting to the main castle.
Boat is the tutorial stage, while the pier is the first location Miriam arrives.
>>342529807
I'm pretty sure they rushed that ship area just to show something at E3.
The castle renders looked much better.
>MFW it looks much worse than an 8 year old game for the Nintendo DS
JUST
What happened, Iga?
>>342530229
This so much. I have zero hope for any KS game.
It's gonna feel pretty great to have an igavania that plays like the DS games while not being 50% reused SotN assets.
>>342530229
Yeah somehow the backgrounds looked better a year ago.
>>342530448
It doesn't doe.
>>342530513
We can only hope they just fucked up with the ship and the rest of the game looks much better.
>>342530589
The backgrounds on the left look much better 2bh
Just finished the demo.
Holy shit it is really bad, boring as fuck, all rooms looks the same and nothing interesting to see or do. No exploration feeling as rooms are just copy pasted.
But despite the game (well the demo) being shit, I am more concerned by the fact that people in this thread find "fun" or "pretty good".
Have you guys ever played the first 15 minutes of any Castelvania game? It is nothing like this.
>>342530589
It absolutely does
>>342530189
Whoa. Brendan Fraser is a wanted man?
>>342530448
What happened?
>>342530716
Hey, you posted the exact same thing in the other 2 threads. I thought we didn't do reposts.
>>342530513
nice blurry video
of a different setting
moron
It's a fun little teaser thats for sure. Liked the Kung Fu shoes a lot.
>>342530448
The backgrounds do. It needs more color. Also note that the NDS over saturates the games a bit to account for the NDS screen. So a pure emualtor shot does not reflect how the games look when played on a NDS screen.
>>342530716
Gatdang she is uggo
H-mods when?
>>342531106
I want to envelop Miriam.
so has the demo leaked yet or not?
help
>>342530229
Welcome to the game industry. Downgrades-R-Us.
>>342531309
nigga do you think anyone here actually backed 60 bucks
>>342531349
I know for a fact at least one has.
>>342531346
I blame consoles and their laptop tier graphic cards.
>>342531349
This anon did. Damn it feels good to be a richfag.
>>342531318
what OS?
32-bit?
>>342531619
yes
im fucked right
>>342531723
yeppers
I liked movement and combat so far, wish for style reasons Miriam kicked with more than one leg though. Like alternating between two.
Also IF YOU START AN ATTACK RIGHT ABOVE THE GROUND WHILE FALLING THE ATTACK WILL GET CANCELLED WHEN YOU LAND REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Also Miriam should strike a post when you hold up like other Metroidvania games.
>>342531106
>>342531184
Reminds me of when I used to let myself get captured but the energy-sucking squid things in OoE or the Succubi in PoR
>>342531723
Sucks to be you, unless you have a 64 machine somewhere.
>>342530513
That's literally just flash shit m8
>>342532072
>IF YOU START AN ATTACK RIGHT ABOVE THE GROUND WHILE FALLING THE ATTACK WILL GET CANCELLED WHEN YOU LAND REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
this has been on every single Metroidvania
>>342532072
That's a good thing.
You can attack in the air, cancel the recovery, attack on the ground faster than normal and cancel that recover by backdashing.
Combat is pretty cool.
I liked it but like most people, would want better backgrounds.
>>342531349
>mfw backed for signed collector's box
I've dumped over 300 dollarydoos into this game, and so far it's looking to be worth every penny.
>>342530448
It looks fine
And I'll bet you the budget for this game is much smaller anyways, don't act like being on the DS made it somehow easier even though they're sprites
I wish I could report this guy for spamming this shit in every single thread?
>>342532464
It's just a boat. How much more exciting can you get?
>>342532464
What do you want a boat to look like?
>>342532527
It's a good investment, anon.
>>342532398
No it fucking hasn't
I know for a fact it's not in PoR at the very least, I always used the huge-ass axe and it will follow through after you hit the ground just fine
>>342531449
I blame PC's and their wide variety of hardware
>>342532464
>Most people
I seriously don't get what the beef with the background is, it looks fine
>>342532571
>>342532613
I want a boat that doesn't look grey and desaturated. It should have more color.
>>342532703
Do you see Miriam using a huge-ass axe?
And it's also the case on PoR, it's a sword thing, that's why they're faster
>>342532938
If you're a backer, you should request that. Tell us what they say.
The mega got taken down by the owner. Anyone else have a legit link?
>>342531349
>Not getting a physical copy
>>342532938
It is a cursed ghost boat that has been drifting in foggy waters for decades.
>>342532938
So you want a spooky decrepit ghost ship in the dead of night to look like a nickelodeon carnival.
It's a good thing you're not a game designer.
>>342532571
>>342532613
I guess a bit more color and actual lighting, though not sure if that's background anymore.
>>342532703
What are weapon classes?
How many IGAvanias have you even played?
>>342532938
>Open your control panel
>Crack up the saturation
>???
>Profit
How do i get the demo, is it in my email?
>>342533180
Because color and light make spooky things spookier. sure. ok.
the demo was pretty boring, easy as fuck and not much to do
jump cancels are also broken
>>342532938
Why does a wrecked ship need to look like a fucking candy shop? It's unrealistically bright as is.
>>342529807
It's exactly what I expected
plays exactly like the DS games full of reused assets and cheap budget, yet this is a big fancy console game that had tons of money thrown its way
IGA is a hack that killed castlevania by making the same game over and over and caused konami to make that shitty lords of shadow stuff, motherfucker still hasn't learned his lesson.
IGAvanias were fun, but this is literally just drawn of ecclesia with bad looking 3D visuals that don't properly feel like castlevania
>>342533248
My key went straight into the junk folder.
Also you need to have filled out your survey, apparently a bunch of idiots here didn't.
>>342533293
>jump cancels are also broken
it's a castlevania game
>>342533248
You should have received an email from Fangamer if you filled out the survey on time.
>>342533331
Make it darker, give it realistic lighting, and make the wood brighter. The colors in everything are desaturated too much so it looks greyish.
>>342533345
Look at you, tryhard.
>>342529807
Did anyone uploaded demo?
>>342533650
I apologize my opinions trigger you so
>>342533345
>IGA is a hack that killed castlevania by making the same game over and over and caused konami to make that shitty lords of shadow stuff, motherfucker still hasn't learned his lesson.
Fuck's sake I know this is a low effort shitpost and you just hate IGA but he fucking tried to make 3Dvanias. You cannot say he 'made the same game over and over' like he didn't try to make TWO 3D console castlevanias that still sucked yet STILL managed to be better than all other 3Dvanias not made by Iga.
>>342533286
I get not agreeing with more color but what's wrong with better lighting effects?
>>342532542
>I wish I could report this guy because he disagrees with me
Butthurt fanboy or desperate shill?
>>342532703
Wow you are a stupid asshole.
Most weapons cancel, heavy weapons don't.
>>342533560
No.
>>342533182
All of them but HoD and DoS
I'm positive Axe wasn't the only weapon to follow through on landing, too.
Just booted up SotN to check, and you're right about that one anyways
Still bugs me
Hope there's a huge 2-handed axe that follows through and takes ten years to swing
>>342533441
Who here likes haikus?
>>342533345
>full of reused assets
Look, I'm all for good pasta, but this is where you need to cook better.
Or is it?
>>342533754
Maybe they aren't done yet.
anyone have a new link? the old mega is down
>>342533753
if IGA attempting to innvovate is his 3D castlevania games then he actually is a hack because those games are near unplayablelegacy of darkness or whatever the second n64 game was is pretty good for its time, and it also actually felt like a 3D castlevania instead of just taking IGAvania elements and putting them in endless 3D hallways
>>342533560
Timber used for ships ain't light colored, less when they have been sea borne for quite some time.
Perhaps some darker shadows in the lower portions would be wood.
>>342530189
>people are lumping in someone who made some of the best games ever with some drawing ape who had almost no part in the MegaMan series
>>342533345
Nah fuck you
I wanted more Castlevania and that's what I got take your INNOVASHUN and shove it
I just want to play a castlevania now
I've played Aria of Sorrow, Circle of the Moon, and Symphony of the Night
and that's in order of most liked to least (crucify me for SotN whatever)
any others I should play?
>>342533872
The fuck are you talking about? The first two DS games and all the GBA games are full of reused assets from rondo/sotn. That's just a fact
Ecclesia doesn't but that game is also a series of hallways and has like 10 enemy types
>>342534020
order of eclessia or however you spell it
>>342531106
Here you go.
>>342534000
Sounds like that would impact gameplay.
Not being able to see the platforms isn't good for this kind of game.
It's better than nothing.
>>342534020
Dawn of Sorrow is probably the closest to Bloodstained in terms of controls.
>>342533785
Some anon in the last thread hacked the game files and found some planned weapon classes:
>clubs, kicks, guns, katanas, knives, large swords, normal swords, rapiers, spears, another type of a sword (code name TSword, but there aren't any finished) and whips.
>>342534006
They don't need to reinvent the wheel, they just need to give me literally any reason to play this over the IGA games that already exist. It controls the exact same. It has the exact same soul/equipment system. All of the enemies in the demo are just reskins of enemies from IGAvania games.
I already played those games and liked them, I can play them again. Why would I play this game that only features muddy 3D graphics as its big new feature.
"I just want the same game over and over" is what killed off this series in the first place
>>342534130
THANK YOU CON MEN
>>342533807
I hate haikus.
>>342534119
the fuck is this fanmade?
>>342534119
>Mfw someone creates a full porn conversation for bloodstained
>>342534095
Yeah, but you're going to have a hard time convincing me that Bloodstained is full of reused assets.
>>342534265
All the weapon types were revealed before the game was announced in their sword v whip site.
TSword is probably the whipsword.
>>342534020
portrait of ruin is the best IGAvania
for the sidescrollers the general consensus is that either rondo of blood or castlevania 3 are the best ones
>>342533119
>>342533139
See: >>342530448
Fuck off with your realism nonsense. Castlevania and Bloodstained are games that happen in a fantasy gothic world, the colors are vivid, like something out of a painting. This is how Castlevania has looked every since Symphony of the Night. Fuck, this is what the artwork for the damn game and the concept art promised, no, I'm not saying that the game needs to look as good as concept art, but it obviously should retain the visual characteristics that encompass it. Namely: The fucking colors that aren't washed out grey bullshit.
The picture that makes the comparison is fair, the picture on the left is from a sunken ship in Order of Ecclesia, and it looks much better than the ship in Bloostained
>>342533331
It should definitely have some darkness added to it as well. There's barely no contrast in the level, which is most likely why the colors are all so washed out.
>no mega link
>>342533785
Weapon/backdash canceling is a staple of the igavanias
You wanting it gone is fucking insulting
>>342534130
THANK YOU IGA MAN
>>342533962
>Legacy of Darkness
I hear good things about this for a 3D vania but many things put me off from trying it and now it's the last CV I've yet to play which makes me sad. Also, it's both cool and sad that they introduced a unique character like Cornell as the mc and that it's considered one of the only good 3DVanias with no Belmont/vampire killer wielders in sight.
>>342534173
It's better thanthe 25th anniversary game
>>342534417
Eh, they might not all make it in, depending on time and budget.
>>342534424
I'm actually not clear on what specifically Igavania means, is that just the more metroidy-style ones with abilities and shit instead of the older ones where fuck you here's a hundred medusa heads and dracula
>>342534286
New map to explore, new enemies. Some new cool platforming sequences.
For many of us, that's all it takes.
>>342534398
That isn't what I said.
>plays exactly like the DS games full of reused assets and cheap budget
It plays identically to cheaply made (if good) handheld games desptte being a console release. Game feels like a fangame with it's 1-1 copy of the previous games controls/movement and jank looking unreal engine 3D graphics
>>342533050
I definitely said as much on the survey, more people should follow along if they think it's a problem.
>>342534265
NO AXE NO BUY
Nah I'm kidding, I already bought it and I'll enjoy it anyways
Hopefully large swords have a fucktarded huge, slow overhead swing
>>342532464
They should make the level up animation faster
>>342534372
It's a sequel to a 2D platformer with a DMC style meter. He wanted to do a Metroidvania for the sequel, and just went with the Bloodstained design.
>>342534286
More of the same is fine, just not too often.
If you're tired of it then that's you. It's okay for you to not like this game.
That won't mean the game is bad.
>>342534450
Symphony didn't have vivid colors. The color palette is muted and realistic.
NDS and GBA games are over saturated to counter act the crappy screens. Emu screenshots do not reflect how the games actually looked on those screens.
>>342533293
>>342533419
what is a jump cancel?
>>342534614
Seems about the same as SotN, if anything it's faster.
>>342534286
>"I just want the same game over and over" is what killed off this series in the first place
If it was yearly thing I would agree but the last Metroidvania game I loved came out in 2006. A decade ago.
>>342534535
once you beat cornells story you unlock a somewhat trunciated version of the original castlevania 64 story with the belmont and the mage girl
it's pretty fun with the improved gameplay legacy of darkness added
>>342534586
you got it. they're called IGAvania because that's the guy that was in charge of castlevania as a series when they made all of them after SOTN was so popular
>>342534761
I feel like Bloodstained is a little slower
>>342534606
I did not complain, and merely said thank you on my survey because I'm a respectful gentleman who is considerate of services rendered unto me by my betters.
>>342534452
There's a torrent, use that.
>>342534860
I feel like you're forgetting how slow SotN was.
>>342534676
>SotN didn't have vivid colors
Eat shit
>>342534676
This is the concept art that was shown, this is what they said they wanted the game to look like visually. Again, I'm not saying the game needs to look as good as this on a pure technical level, but tell me with a straight face that these colors are even 10% as washed out as the actual fucking game, you stupid motherfucker.
Even in the actual demo, the rose effect, the menu, the interface, the models and the animation when you get a shard stuck into you all clash with the backgrounds that look completely lifeless in comparison.
Im really tempted to back this for 60 bucks for the physical copy
But that march 2017 release date is so far. Can I still get the demo?yooka laylee better have a physical copy for the public ;_;
>>342534978
VERBOTEN
>>342534676
this pretty much
>>342532464
I can see that level up animation giving speedrunners nightmares already
>>342534265
>another type of a sword (code name TSword
Maybe it's twin swords.
>>342534878
Where?
>>342535027
Holy shit what a dull, colorless game! TOTALLY
>>342534978
Those aren't vivid. They're pretty dark. The color palette is dark and realistic.
>>342534265
>guns
FUCK YES
Soma gun runs were fun as FUCK
>>342535004
That is not a picture of the boat. Are you kidding me?
>>342534978
Nice Deviantart picture.
>>342534978
>Dull backgrounds
>Bright objects like candles, to have them stand out for gameplay
>Bright spells
Wow this is almost exactly how Bloodstained works!
>>342535107
Kickass.
>>342534587
I can respect that but like, every previous IGAvania had a unique feel to it
circle had the cards and the fact that you only had whip/subweapons like an OG castlevania
HoD had the sonic speed dashing and the magic/subweapon combo stuff
the sorrow games had souls had future tech like guns
portrait has the two character mechanic
ecclesia has glyphs being a combination of weapons and spells from previous games and the fast regenerating MP bar
What does this game have? The soul system but also the item crafting from curse of darkness which is just an excuse to add even more rare item farming?
Compare that with sotn where you have so many options and abilities and unique rare items, which made sense because it was a big console game and the other IGAvanias were handheld games. Am I just expecting too much of this game?
>>342534943
I played it recently, it feels slightly faster than this.
>>342535065
The finished game is going to have a speedrun mode isn't it?
I imagine they'll be happy with that.
>>342534860
Your eyes deceive you.
>>342535235
>>342535185
Get your eyes checked, Bloodstained is nowhere near this colorful in terms of backgrounds you cancerous fucks.
>>342535235
>Dull backgrounds
Ayy lmao
Compared to Bloodstained, that background looks like Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
is there a new demo link?
>>342535138
Nice emulated and not accurate at all screenshot with ugly filters.
>>342535413
You've literally seen one environment and you're acting like it's the entire game.
Choke on a bag of dicks.
>>342531723
what os?
>People outright pretending that the backgrounds being posted here from Symphony of the Night look as bad and colorless as Bloodstained's
The fuck is going on? Is this a new meme? Has everyone lost their mind?
Maybe the wrong place to ask, but since its sale time, are there any good multiplayer Castlevania on Steam? I know there was one on XBox and PS3, but I don't know if it ever came to PC.
>>342535215
Hell yeah.
Hey drawfags.
Some pics of Miriam's GUNS would be appreciated, thanks.
LOOK AT ALL THIS LACK OF COLOR, I SWEAR
>>342535004
I do not have it at hand right now, but one of the screenshots showing the different shaders have a more varied composition.
Like others have said before, this is a pre-alpha demo.
>>342535506
Hey, dipshit, we're criticizing what we can see, we're criticizing what we were allowed to play. If the demo section looked better, then we obviously wouldn't be criticizing how it looked.
>>342535621
Nice filters.
CASTLEVANIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN WASHED OUT AND MUDDY, DARK LIKE MY SOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLL
the problem with the visuals isn't so much the colors as it is the asthetic overal
there's no blood, there's no monster boners, there's no insanely satisfying stab sound effects when you hit stuff. these are all important things of real castlevania games that aren't in this demo. instead you just sort of hit a thing and it falls over
this sounds like a silly complaint but these little touches are a big part of the feeling behind castlevania, and since this game mentions sotn roughly a 100 times in its promo materials and the EXACT SAME feeling to the combat/canceling I don't think having the same feeling is too much to ask
LOOK AT ALL THIS LACK OF COLOR I-UH WHOOPS
>>342535724
You don't need to throw a hissy fit about it and shitpost in every thread about how it doesn't look like Willy Wonka's Chocolate factory.
I'm absolutely certain other zones will have color, they seem pretty set on their stained glass motif after all.
Just give Iga your feedback and shut up about the damn saturation.
Yes I'm mad.
>>342532464
Having level ups tied to damage or the amount of hits you land as opposed to enemies killed just seems odd. I leveled up while I was still fighting the boss. It totally kills the flow of the gameplay when you level up in the middle of a fight.
>>342535561
that multiplayer game was really bad
anyway there's no castlevania multiplayer games on steam, no
>>342535715
I'm not arguing with you, mate.
I'm arguing with people that are excusing how it looks, not with people that say that this is still a Pre-Alpha or that the rest of the environments might look better. It's certainly possible you're right. I hope you're right. But we're talking about what we can see right now.
DARKNESS, FILL KINGDOM FARTS WITH DARKNESS AND LACK OF COLORS
I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW WASHED OUT THIS GAME'S COLORS ARE !!1!
this looks kinda bad without the shaders and other effects.
>>342535954
I'm throwing an hissy fit and you aren't? And what do you mean "every thread"? This is like the second time I comment on this game this year. Perhaps other people are justifiably having the same concerns I'm having.
>>342535874
CASTLEVANIA IS SUPPOSED TO BE COLORLESS, DEVOID OF LIFE AND DEAD, LIKE MUH GEARS OF WAR
>>342536061
Too bad the fucking demo doesn't look like it, get cancer and die IGA shill.
JUST LOOK AT HOW MOTHERFUCKING MUTED EVERYTHING IS!
>>342535621
>>342535835
>>342536015
>>342535874
>>342536061
just fuck already
>>342536061
We're obviously talking about the ship level, you know, the one we actually got to play and see in motion. Are you daft?
>>342534595
>That isn't what I said.
Fair enough. I should have taken the other to interpret that sentence into consideration.
>>342535295
I think it's a bit early to judge. SoTN is a weird game. For me, it's one of those examples of bad game design that nonetheless works.
It does so by no giving a fuck and cramming a cornucopia of options. I ant to say most, but memory may not serve well, but at least a non-insignificant portion of those options come from items drops.
It really is up to the people who're making the game to do the same for Bloodstained. Iga has proven that he's willing to let the talent in the team get some leeway into introducing cool/weird ideas. Which is part of why SotN is endearing, you can feel how much everyone behind the game loved their craft, and tried to insert some ideas. Some of them ridiculous and useless, and all the more cool for it (the peanuts or size boosting shoes for one).
>>342536121
Looks kinda bad with them too.
DIDN'T YOU HEAR? CASTLEVANIA DOESN'T HAVE COLORS, IT'S ONLY NATURAL SHITSTAINED SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY EITHER
>>342536153
It's just you, tho. The Vocal minority. Have you ever considered working for the Humanities dept of your local College?
>>342535874
>>342536061
>>342536164
>>342536194
Impossible to properly judge until we see it in motion. No one here has said that the entire game looks like shit because obviously the whole game isn't even fucking done yet. We've been saying that the ship looks like shit.
>>342536061
>breast tattoo
my new fetish
>>342536437
The ship looks like a ship.
>>342536190
haha, im in your head
CASTLEVANIA HAS NO COLORS GUIZE
>everyone is so mad about colors
>Check out the game
>3d models
And into the Mighty Number 9 pile it goes
why does she walk so fuckking slowwww
>>342536548
I'm pretty sure it's just one guy. Whether he's being ironic or has autism, I can't tell.
>>342536378
>It's just you, tho.
You literally just said that I've been saying this every thread, despite the fact this is the second Bloodstained thread I post in this year and despite the fact there are two or three posters aside from me posting right now and criticizing the backgrounds just like I did.
Have you perhaps considered the fact that there can be such a thing as more than one person with different opinions than yours? Do you suffer from Schizophrenia?
>>342536548
We're mad that a 10 milion dollar game looks like shit, when the previous games made under Konami under MUCH smaller budget looked thousand times better.
It's not just the colors, the animations are shit, the models are shit and it uses awful low poly 3D like the Rondo remake because they are too talentless to make sprites.
>>342536529
>>342536327
>>342536190
Don't think I've seen this one before, which CV is it?
>>342536437
You are delusional if you think the boat doesn't resemble a boat.
>tfw windows 32 bits
IT'S NOT FAIR
>>342536378
It's not just him, though. I agree with him.
>>342536609
because it's a castlevania game
if you want fast you backdash or divekick everywhere or wait until you get the go fast ability
>>342536496
>>342536717
We're back at this shit again? I'm just gonna copy-paste what I said already.
Fuck off with your realism nonsense. Castlevania and Bloodstained are games that happen in a fantasy gothic world, the colors are vivid, like something out of a painting. This is how Castlevania has looked every since Symphony of the Night. Fuck, this is what the artwork for the damn game and the concept art promised, no, I'm not saying that the game needs to look as good as concept art, but it obviously should retain the visual characteristics that encompass it. Namely: The fucking colors that aren't washed out grey bullshit.
The picture that makes the comparison is fair, the picture on the left is from a sunken ship in Order of Ecclesia, and it looks much better than the ship in Bloostained
>>342536529
Nice edit.
>>342536665
Adventure Rebirth, Wii exclusive. It's a remake of CV Adventure from the original Game Boy, a Classicvania.
>>342536761
Literally only true for SotN (and HoD but that's because it has forward dash). Every single post-SotN Castlevania had backdash being slower than normal movement.
But keep on being retarded, you clearly never played the fucking games you literal paid shill.
>>342536663
How do you know what the budget for the DS games was?
>>342536842
Why are you getting triggered by a boat, LOL?
>>342536871
IGA himself said their budgets were being drastically cut from game to game hence why they were reusing so many enemy sprites and that Ecclesia had a budget of less than half a million.
>>342536842
>We're back at this shit again?
Because you keep arguing about shit you're obviously wrong about.
>>342536991
I was asking for a source.
>>342536842
tbqh this post is just as mind numbingly stupid now as it was 40 minutes ago
>>342536969
Honestly, the boat itself merely disappointed me, the only thing that's triggering me is the fervent defense of it.
You're like the fags in official game forums trying to defuse every possible criticism anyone has for the sake of sucking the dev's cocks.
>>342536654
I haven't been in every thread.
So obviously there's a lot more people here who disagree, or aren't here because they're too busy playing the demo.
A better use of your time would be making your concerns known to the team, that way you can feel depressed with their lack of response, knowing they won't entertain your silly man-child desires.
>>342537040
>>342537095
1) The sunken ship of Order of Ecclesia looks better than the ship in Bloodstained, they're both ships
2) The concept art promised something more colorful than what the ship looks like
3) The ship has no contrast, it's bright and washed out
>>342537059
https://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/igarashi-on-castlevania-judgment-and-budget-concerns/
>>342537148
Anon the purpose of this board is for people to disagree with each other.
If we didn't then one of us would be redundant.
If I've never played Castlevania games, but Super Metroid is my favorite game, should I get into it? If so, does one just play them from the oldest to the newest or are there games I should skip etc?
>all those literal MN9 tier shills that clearly never even played Castlevania before spewing objectively wrong bullshit such as backdashing being faster than regular movement being norm in CV games which is flat out false and applies to only 1 game
That's how I know that all these threads are just post-purchase rationalizing morons and literal shills.
>>342537148
You don't have to autismally defend everything, you know. It's just 4chan.
>>342537302
But I'm not the one arguing that you're the only person that disagrees with me. You're the one who said that.
And I already made my criticisms known in the survey.
A better use of your time would be to not be butthurt responding to a criticism, but we're all here wasting our time on /v/.
>>342537348
Where in that article does it say OoE had a budget of $500k?
>>342537445
Kill yourself.
>>342537542
It says that Judgement had abysmally low budget. Is that not enough for you?
>>342537515
I'm not arguing that either. You brought it up.
I'm sure they will take your concerns seriously.
Personally, I think the boat is fine.
Let's all just calm down.
>cult of personality
Death of games.
IGA didn't make those games. A team of talented developers made them, IGA was the ideas guy.
Ideas guy alone does not make games.
Bloodstained already reflects the lack of talent of the new development team.
>>342537445
I played SotN late, maybe four years ago.
It's still glorious to this day, doubly so if you don't know any specifics about it.
If you've somehow managed to stay blind leave this thread right now and go play it.
when is this getting released again?
>>342537727
Works for me, thanks m8.
>>342537713
I didn't bring it up, you're the one who said:
>It's just you, tho.
>>342537343
>Why is the ship in Ecclesia relevant
>You don't know what the word promise means
>This is true
>>342537515
>>342537721
He brought his team members. He ain't stupid.
>>342537615
Konami is a big company.
Their idea of a small budget can vary.
If you have no exact source it's impossible to compare the budgets of Bloodstained and the DS games.
I don't doubt that they were being cut over time, but it's not impossible for them to still have been more than Bloodstained.
If you can't provide a source then we simply don't know.
>>342537827
Oh my god, drop it, sperg.
>>342537829
The ship in Ecclesia is relevant because the excuse being given to the ship in Bloodstained looking bad is that "it looks like a ship". Ecclesia's ship also looks like a ship and on top of that, it looks good.
I know what the word promised means, concept art is supposed to show what the developers want the game to look like. Obviously it can't be 1 to 1, but it's supposed to represent it
And if you agree with me that the ship lacks contrast and is washed out, then why are you arguing with me?
>>342537928
what game is this?
>>342537445
Seeing as you're a Metroidfag, you want to play all the Metroidvanias.
Namely in release order:
Symphony of the Night
Circle of the Moon
Harmony of Dissonance
Aria of Sorrow
Dawn of Sorrow
Portrait of Ruin
Order of Ecclesia
You may also want to play at the very least a few of the Classicvanias, namely Rondo of Blood (SotN is a direct sequel to that), Bloodlines (PoR is a direct sequel to that) and the classics that are Castlevania 1 and Castlevania 3 (you want the fantranslated Japanese version called Akumajou Densetsu, has better balance and music quality).
And then there's the 3D Castlevanias which are also Metroidvanias, namely Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness. Lament is prequel to the entire series and Curse is a direct sequel to Castlevania 3.
>>342537928
Colors
>Green, check
>Red, check
>Blue, check
>Brown, check
>Purple, check
>Yellow, check
What are we missing here? Pink?
>>342529807
It was ok, might buy it depending on the price. But no buy if there isn't any barefoot Miriam in it.
>>342536121
what the fuck were they thinking with this boss design? What is it even supposed to be?
>>342538082
Castlekino: Kickstarer Under Moon
>>342537926
I wonder what a pachislot budget looks like.
Do you think it looks like dead dreams and old people?
>>342537926
IGA literally said his budget for Bloodstained being 500.000$ (that was the Kikescammer pitch) was already more than he had at Konami working on DS games.
http://www.wired.com/2015/05/koji-igarashi-bloodstained-kickstarter/
Go shill harder.
so will someone post a download link or not?
>>342538215
BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT
>>342537861
He didn't. Only Michiru Yamane is on the team.
I don't see any of these people working on Bloodstained, do you?
http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Symphony_of_the_Night_Credits
>>342537928
those have a low chance? i got the soul like in my second one
>>342538215
Can't view that site because it doesn't like adblock.
>>342538140
>What is contrast
>What is lighting
>>342538140
>no contrast depth
>everything is washed out
>no detail definition (the fucking OoE sprites at 1/12 resolution have 200% more detail)
>this thread
/v/'s autism knows no limits
>>342538431
Move the goalposts even harder.
>It’s going to be more expensive to produce than a typical Castlevania, Igarashi says, because he can no longer re-use the assets from previous games to keep the budget low. But Bloodstained already has secured enough funding to proceed.
>The Kickstarter, with a goal of $500,000, is intended to accomplish a few things. First, should it take off, it could significantly increase the game’s development budget. Second, the team hopes it will generate sufficient funding to print the game on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One discs for those players who’d rather not download.
>>342534286
New areas? New weapons? New Souls to play with?
>>342534586
Igavania is just a word they coined to be able to say "Metroidvania" without having copyright issues, or more specificlly meaning CASTLEVANIA GAME MADE BY IGA
>>342538647
We're arguing about saturation.
Don't try and stop us.
>>342538357
IGa said 1% I think
>>342538647
God forbid we expect the game to have the same level of quality as previous Castlevania games which had 1/20 its budget.
>>342538737
To be fair, Nintendo is pretty trigger happy with their lawyers.
>>342538431
Use uBlock.
>>342538894
No it's fine.
I've never gone to a website that blocks adblock and thought "I really need to visit this site."
I just leave.
>>342534265
>katanas
of course
>>342538647
Autistic /v/ is better than memer /v/.
At least we're talking about something
>>342536869
>>342537491
in portrait backdash -> tag -> backdash is how you go fast for many parts of the game
likewise in ooe with backdash -> attack -> backdash
the only igavanias that don't have backdash canceling of some sort to go fast are the sorrow games (instead you just jump/dive kick constantly) and circle of the moon (which gives you the ability to run in the first 20 minutes)
I said you backdash OR dive kick because the overall point I was making is that you never go fast in igavania by just walking anywhere, there's always something else you do
Why are you so mad?
>>342538326
That's his old team. And they all use pseudonyms.
>>342538835
And again, for the hard of understanding in the crowd, those games could afford to be that cheap because the makers could recycle assets like crazy from game to game.
A luxury this game doesn't have.
>>342538979
They had a user poll to determine the strongest weapon in the game.
Katana won.
