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How are the english musical numbers?
game hasn't released, these reviews are all paid for by NoA as usual. wait for the release and see how fucking befuddled the actual players will be.
>>342488110
I am sorry I said it would be good.
>>342488110
Come back in a week when we have the user score
>>342488110
Now reviews matter again?
Someone buy it for me.
>>342488286
it's not dubbed
>>342488286
>English dub
wew
Atlus USA did something right for once and kept it Jap audio only.
>>342488423
They matter only when they coincide with the opinions of the person making the argument.
Fuck Off Tripspic
Anyone who thought this game wasn't a solid 8 was just deluding themselves. You can hate it all you want but it's still mechanically sound and fairly well designed.
That said I won't be buying it because of NoA's changes. I'll either wait to get it used or pirate it down the line, but it's not a priority for me since I have dozens of other games to work through.
Ah now I know why they made so many changes. It was to appeal to the reviewers.
I'm not going to read any of these reviews but hold up!
Are you telling me the latest game to be butchered by treehouse with a serious public backlash from the core audience is getting good review scores ?
Hold the phone, this doesnt sound like omething the sjw agenda would push at all.
Eh, I guess I'll pirate it then.
>>342488549
>buy P5 and support no original audio but you also get to support uncensored content
>buy #FE and support original audio, but also support censorship
>buy neither and risk the chance that cool Atlus RPGs never get released outside Japan.
They did this on purpose.
>Higher score than Planet Robobot
H-how did they do it bros?
>reviewers take points off when games are too sexy
>don't take points off when they're censored
I guess we know who games get censored for now
>>342488658
Confess
>>342488110
I love Tsubasa!
>an 8.8 used to have Nintendo fans on suicide watch
>now we're happy to have an 8.0
How the mighty have fallen.
You mean /v/'s whining about "censorship" didn't actually mean anything?
WHO COULD HAVE GUESSED!?
Help. Should I get this game? Will it be rare?
Atlus games are always good
>>342489439
Get me a copy while you're at it.
It also got good reviews in Japan, didn't stop it from only selling 39k copies
>>342489410
Go to bed, Reggie.
>>342488110
>censorship
No. I don't care how fun something is. Censorship, no buy.
>>342489238
EXCUSE ME WHAT
>>342489004
Pretty sure Persona 5 cover is censored, you can downplay or sugarcoat it till the cows come home, but it happened.
>>342489502
It'd be pal
I will never forget that 9.5 from Polygon
>>342489642
Fuck that
>>342489636
That cover is censored because of ESRB regulation. They don't have a choice.
I'd play it because I like Persona/Digimon Cyber Sleuth gameplay but the whole idol thing is too much for me to handle
I'll pass, sorry
Good to hear it's decent though
>>342489682
At least Australia is an oasis for limited editions. 1 person owns a wii u here and it's me
Just because it's been brain-numbingly censored to hell and back does not suddenly make it a bad or boring game. The gameplay is still solid.
It's still absolutely overwhelmingly mind-boggling how they went to such extreme extents to censor this particular game, though.
NoA recently put out a statement saying Paper Mario Color Splash does not have a Gamergate joke in it. Why the FUCK can they make a statement on that game and not explain anything about their decisions with this one?
I really wish somebody would ask them sometime. PR shit excuse or not, I just want an explanation.
>>342488423
No, apparantly they only matter when used to shill literal garbage like Unsharted 4 or overwatch.
>>342489805
Enjoy the game then,cunt.
>>342489238
I am genuinely upset. Wont be buying fe anyway but, poyo for life!
>>342489347
I know you're a sonypony and as such retarded by default, but it wasnt the score that was the issue, it was the fact that the reviewer went out of his way to not give the game a 9, and used a meme number like 8.87351/10 instead
>>342490448
>went out of his way to not give the game a 9
thats even worse for nintendo fans
>>342489636
Okay yeah, let's say it is censored, Catherine's cover was also censored, but was the actual game itself censored? No.
>>342490448
>b-b-but Sony
>>342490934
>b-b-b-but nintendo
>>342488110
No, it's typical weebshit and supporting it means we just get more dancing anime girls instead of some good stuff like a legi FEXSMT
But of course you fat virgins will.play it, love it, masturbate to it
>>342488110
Once Nintendo removes the censorship.
>>342490979
Yes this thread it's about a Nintendo "game"
Sheesh there drones don't even know what games are shilling anymore
>>342490296
Ah yea because "Persona but not actually Persona+idolshit" is better
If anyone should be apologizing, it's Nintendo of America.
>>342488110
I don't trust anyone other than IGN
>>342491549
8.1/10
>>342488110
Posting in every "metacritic and reviews matter when I want it to thread" regardless of intent or origin
CENSORFAGS BTFO
>>342492269
Yeah, this, Metacritic scores matter only when they fit my personal idea.
>>342488110
I'm sorry that the average reviewer doesn't understand I don't want to play the Muslim version.
>Westen press shits on JRPG and Japanese culture for being sexist
>A JRPG based around the whole Idol culture is getting high scores
I Guess putting the women in burkhas does work
>>342492617
It sure seems that way.
>>342492269
TLOU deserves that score
Skyward Sword doesn't deserve that score
God Hand deserves that score
Custom Robo is better on DS
>>342488110
why should i?
the game is great, already 7 hours in
>>342489636
Can't wait for the salt when it's actually censored
>>342492915
>Godhand deserves that score
Fuck your bait and fuck you, you double-nigger homofag.
>>342493081
What about Godhand warrants more than a score that means "good not great"?
That's the perfect description of Godhand.
>>342489439
Atlus usually prints a gorillion copies of their games but this is a Wii U game so who knows
>>342489410
the censorship happed alright
it almost seemed like they just censored random stuff
maybe they didn't have enough time to catch it all
>>342488110
So while this game got censored to hell and back, one of the treehouse girls tweeted this earlier.
Why are they such fucking hypocrites?
>>342488110
>gamerevolution
i can spot the sjw shill from the other threads 2 days ago talking about reviewing it
>>342489410
Don't be delusional, its still going to sell like absolute garbage.
I mean, it wouldve sold like garbage with or without censorship, but now it has no hope at all.
>>342492617
>Censor your game
>Cuck sites give it a good review
What a time to be alive
>>342493687
>Treehouse
>In charge of anything but dialogue
Nigga those "censored" bits were the work of the Atlus peeps and are in both versions of the game.
They had a change in heart on design. Get over it.
>>342493980
Fuck off retard.
>>342493962
>make a good game
>gets a good reviews because only like 5% of people care about the censorship
wew
>>342493962
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/8606187.html
>>342492915
>God Hand deserves that score
Fuck off
>>342494125
>It still sells like dogshit because Americans don't care about j-pop or idols
This game was too weeb for Japan
>>342494076
>Game creators decide to change something
>le blame it on le censorship boogeyman meme
I'm sure the gameplay itself is fine, but I wonder how many reviews for it would be different if the game had been left uncensored. Like Polygon giving it a 9.5? Maybe so that it'd get better reviews is the real reason for censoring the game.
>>342494256
The localizers are the ones who changed the boss's tits, changed tsubasas weeding dress, altered an entire dungeon's plot, and removed an Adonis belt for some reason. Those things were not censored in the jap version.
Fuck off retard.
>>342494125
>make a good game
Is this you? https://twitter.com/OpKOWASHITAI
Starcuck zero BTFO
Kirby BTFO
color splash BTFO
it's over. #FE won.
>>342494415
no, i just bought the game and i'm enjoying it rn.
sorry that you need to find more petty reasons to not buy games.
>>342494421
What makes you think this will outsell Kirby?
>>342493687
No one is that unaware.
They know EXACTLY what they're doing.
>>342488110
No.
>>342494505
I don't want to buy it because it looks like arse
>>342494595
>muh sales
enjoy your babby game my friend. maybe in this one kirby gets a diaper power up. faggot
>>342494421
Kirby was well-received, dumb fuck.
>>342494732
ehh, i like artstyle and character designs.
What if the censorship was done by the original devs themselves? They did rerecord lines to fit the rewrites, even though the voices are in Japanese.
>>342494415
thats the tripfag tharjaanon
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/username/TharjaAnon/page/1/
>>342490261
People are yelling louder at the Five Fungi joke then they are at #FE censorship.
>>342494751
>M-muh reviews
Enjoy your censored idoltrash.
>>342488110
>82
>Worse than second worst mainline
Shit.
Tsubasa is waiting for everyone, anons!I get to enjoy her now
>>342494853
It wasn't. The jap VAs did that at NoAs request. We've already listed several things ITT that were censored in the NA version and not the jap version.
>>342494905
>grown manchild
>plays babby's first platformer
can't make this shit up senpai.
>>342493980
As far as I know, only the zipper panties were changed in all versions. Everything else that was censored was thanks to NoA's strict supervision.
>>342495087
>Buys idolshit
>Calls other people manchildren
Can't make this shit up.
>>342491108
It still hurts
>>342488294
>implying NoA had to pay even a cent for Polygon to bait and glorify their censorship
>implying Nintendrones and every single Wii U owner who plays on it will not love this game for existing seeing as it's the first game in over a decade for the system
>>>/vg/ weebshit
>>342495193
cheer up kirby manchild. just don't forget to change your diaper.
>>342494853
>What if the censorship was done by the original devs themselves?
It wasn't.
>>342495353
How many idol figures do you own?
>tfw want to support a decision that don't always have to be dubbed and legitimately interested in the game
>Don't want to support censorship
Fuck man
>>342488294
>NoA
>paying for reviews
lol, no.Here's a (you) for ya.
>>342495484
For some reason. Left makes me harder.
>>342488110
>R-reviews matter!!!
>>342494751
>Sales don't matter
TMS drones sure are some dedicated shitposters.
>Make weeb garbage
>Censor it
Who is this supposed to appeal to?
>>342495495
do you watch MLP as well?
>>342495745
Self-healing neofags who love anime but get triggered by breasts.
>>342495635
No amount of money could buy positive reviews for that game anon. The damn thing couldn't even be played properly, those controls were more of a shitfest than skyward sword.
>>342494994
He voice is shit mate
>>342493962
>Actual muslim dress is showing more skin that the game one
>>342495762
How many j-pop records have you imported this year?
>>342489681
Probably a weeb reviewing it. If it was Gies reviewing, it would certainly be a5
>>342488110
apologize for what? it's still censored to hell.
>>342495745
SJWs, apparently. See >>342492893
>>342495817
*Self-hating
>>342488110
Censored Idol Shit
emphasis on shit.
If you think that not buying the game because of the retarded censorship is making a statement or in any way is voting with your dollars, I have to inform you that the reality is the game will sell poorly and Atlus and Now Nintendo will say "Oh I guess our audience doesn't like this sort of game" and move on.
>>342496268
The game is going to sell like shit regardless. It couldn't even sell in Japan, where idolshit is actually popular. Its not even on the Vita, it never had a chance.
leak when
>>342494256
>NoA
>game creators
>>342496268
Don't care. They can keep this in Japan if they are gonna bring it over censored. Or pull that bullshit where they censor some of it to cause a shitstorm for sales.
It's not fucking fair. Why did this weeb trash get a higher score than Planet Robobot and Starfox. Fuck this garbage
>>342496268
I get to keep my money, so it's still a win for me.
>>342494751
>maybe in this one kirby gets a diaper power up.
Ouch.
>>342488423
t. sonygger who petitioned to remove the negative uncharted review
I don't care what reviews it's getting, it's not the SMT x Fire Emblem crossover I wanted. I wanted a mix of SRW, devil survivor, and fire emblem.Also fuck idolshit.
>>342488286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTl8gDQiKiE
>>342496268
>If you think that not buying the game because of the retarded censorship is making a statement or in any way is voting with your dollars
Seeing as buying the game directly supports the censorship, "voting with your dollars" is exactly what it is.
If you think a business is being scummy about what they're offering, the correct response is to both not buy what they're selling and spread the word that they're being scummy and why.
>>342497013
>not playing untranslated majin tensei
>>342496731
>Censor your game
>Nu males give it a good review.
There you go.
Keep in mind that the same reviews these #FEfags are gloating about are from the same people who docked points from Bayo 2 because she's sexualized.
>>342496752
This. NoA saved me 60 fucking bucks.
No eShop sale will ever come close.
>>342496825
retard
>>342495637
Do you have a thing for unitards or bodysuits, because that might be what it's invoking.
bravo NoA
>>342496731
Because Kirby and Starshit are just casual games. No nintendo games deserve a score higher than 70.
>>342494076
The most odd thing about this is that it is indeed censored for whatever seconds or whatever it is in this cutscene, but then when the actual battle starts it's uncensored again.
So what was even the fucking point?
>>342497382
I don't but I'm tired of seeing anime tiddies fucking everywhere so left is a nice change.
>>342495693
/thread
I've never seen anything but shitposting from #FE faggots
>>342496074
Playing the contrarian card here gets them the most clicks. If #FE was a good game and widely accepted, they'd be trashing it.
>>342494901
Why they've made a statement on that is beyond me. Just ignore the triggered mouth breathers and everyone will forget that they even existed soon enough.
>>342497768
>I'm tired of seeing anime tiddies fucking everywhere
>>342493980
>>342494853
The only thing that was change was the pants for one girl so they could be shown in karaokes in japan
The rest is all for the american version
>>342492893
>polygon
kirby wasn't censored so it didn't get a good score. NoA shilled and bribed all the reviewers just so #FE could get 80+ score. kirby got 80+just by being an near perfect game.
>>342498106
Nice reading comparison mate.
>>342497505
>>342498454
> I'm tired of seeing anime tiddies fucking everywhere so covering them up is a nice change.
>hurrr reading comprehension
you're an idiot.
who gives a fuck about censorship. it's fucking anime titties. are you guys fucking virgins?
>>342497505
HOW DO YOU DO MY FELLOW IDOLS?
"no"
What's sad is that this will most likely be Wii U's best game of 2016 by default.
>>342498681
>Bitching about fanservice in an idol j-pop game
You must be a special kind of retard
>>342498681
Who the fuck do you think the target audience for this game is dipshit?
I'll never understand this anti-sex sentiment used to defend the most blatant pandering idolshit games getting censored. It's like saying "who gives a fuck about balance?" and calling people virgin tryhards for complaining about catering to casuals in a competative game.
>>342498851
Zelda doesn't come out this year?
>>342497505
Are they just fucking with the consumer at this point? I just don't get it.
>>342498681
I'm usually on the "it's just tittes you faggots" side but this is an idol Japanese bubble gum pop game, pop Idols sexualize themselves alot.
>>342497505
Did they actually use 80's slang?! What the fuck Nintendo!
>>342499016
No.
>>342499016
Nope.
>>342498681
>>342498229
To be fair, they have a point there. Not that I care about links gender (the fuck has always been pretty androgynous anyway) but Nintendos reasoning behind not giving a fem Link was retarded. "Link is male, it would make more sense to let people play as Zelda. But then what do we do with link? It would throw the Triforce out of Balance"
Nigga it's your fantasy story. Do whatever the fuck you want with Link. Make him the kidnapped one, Make him locked in an eternal battle with Ganondorf for all time and Zelda has to come to the rescue, The fuck you mean Balance out of whack? It's always been 2guys 1girl, link and ganon as guys and Zelda as the girl. How is it out of Balance to maybe have 2 girls and one guy? How about all girls?
It's a fucking lame excuse. Just be honest and say: "We like it this way and we think it will sell better so we're not doing fem link" It's your franchise Nigga, do what you want but don't give me this shit of "oh it can't be done" because it fucking well can. That's why I admire certain other Japanese developers who when asked why their women are barely dressed Tittymonsters reply with "Because I like Tits!"
>uh mah gud, my 3d titties are censored. the game is ruined!
>>342498681
IT'S THE FUCKING PRECEDENT
>>342499618
precedent about what ?! teen girls titties being covered?!
>>342499578
Consistency in the lore of the world is important, if Link has always been a boy in the past why should he suddenly be a girl now?
>>342499578
>Do whatever the fuck you want with Link
That's essentially what they're doing. Nintendo is a large company with a public face so they gave a PR response to avoid backlash. But the reason Link won't be a girl boils down to "we don't want to".
A game from Nintendo and Atlus, two of the most renowned publishers and developers of all time.
Creators of the Fire Emblem and SMT series loved by hardcore fans and casuals alike.
And they can only muster an 8/10.
>>342488110
apologize to my 5 bitch
>>342499596
>Game initially shown as direct crossover
>"Actually we're not making that we're making this instead"
>Game about Medieval lords and monsters with demons and Satanists becomes a game about idols fighting with the power of friendship
>"No but you only hate it because no cleavage"
>"You're a neckbeard if you DON'T like this game"
>>342500010
>overhyping reused assets the company and guys who's only involvement was their IP
>>342498681
I LIVE FOR ANIME TITTIES NIGGA
>>342488110
And pathetic virgins here said that it wasn't going to be the game of the year. LMAOing at your lives
>but muh censorship
Literally why does it matter? they could censor it even twice as much and change even more dialogue and I still wouldn't care about that, literally only losers who can't get laid care about this
>>342499841
Not the guy you're talking to but I think it's important for the creators vision to be maintained in localization. The original devs obviously wanted fanservice in their game otherwise they wouldn't have added it. Its a package deal. That is the product they wanted to make, and paying for money for a version that's been cut and hacked to death that it doesn't even resemble the original is ridiculous.
They also altered an entire dungeon subplot, just fyi
>>342499841
>?!
Censorship should never be condoned or even accepted, no matter what, because companies might start thinking that it is acceptable, and move on to change core elements of the game.
I'm not saying that core elements of this game are changed, but if this goes over without a little complaining, maybe next time they just up and remove parts of the game, like the gravure dungeon, that do not fit with their agenda, and then we are left with less of a game.
>>342496268
Everyone always says this. If they're so fucking inept that they don't understands why their own products fail then fuck 'em.
>>342500267
>8.0
>GOTY
LMAOing at your life
Same as Japan
The reviews are fine but the sales will fucking tank
Meanwhile SMT4 Apocalypse will see lower reviews but considerably higher sales
I hope this pushes for a real SMTxFE on the3DSthat basically combines FE and Devil Survivor in gameplay
>>342496268
>No TMS sequel
>The west still gets FE and SMT
I don't see a problem here
>>342500545
the sales will tank because nobody gives a fuck about fan service.
>>342488110
no amount of reviews can redeem a shitty idol anime game
>>342500545
This. The same exact thing happened in Japan. It got high reviews from Famitsu and Dengeki but sold like shit. The same thing will happen here. Reviews mean nothing, this game caters to almost no one.
>>342493962
>tfw she is actually more covered up than the muzzie
>>342500694
No, it'd sell okay if they left it uncensored. But they forced away those that care about fanservice by censoring it
>>342499945
That's a pretty valid reason.
>>342496268
>"Oh I guess our audience doesn't like this sort of game"
That's the plan
I hate what they did to this supposed crossover so they won't get a cent from me for this game
I hope they never try any of this idol bullshit or bait and switch ever again
>>342500518
Defending TSM with scores is dumb because P4G has a metascore of like 94 and SMT purists hate that game
>>342500867
it wouldn't sell better if they kept the fan service in. nobody gives a damn about idol from japan here in america.
>>342488110
>Nintendo pays for reviews and shills this game hardcore
>A..a..pologize n..now guys... Please?!
Top fucking kek
>>342496731
>the 3 people that have been non-stop shilling the game review it
>surprised that it's rated that high
wew
>>342488286
No dub
>>342496603
This is actually a really interesting statement. In 30+ years noa has never made anything or done anything productive. Even sony had first party titles developed in both countries
Reminder this game couldn't even sell 30.000 copies TO THIS DAY in Japan.
Biggest commercial failure of this gen, they'll never recover the money.
I'm guessing 10.000 sales first week 15.000 lifetime on USA.
>>342498607
Don't you love when fucking imbeciles try to change the script?
>>342497189
/thread
>>342488294
>these reviews are all paid
>unclaimed conjectures
>>342488110
>8.25
>>342499903
Nigga can you read? It's a fantasy story. They can do whatever they want. There is literally no reason not to break the lore.
I mean fuck it's not like Zelda games are consistent from game to game.
>In OoT he switches around between being a kid now and then a squid no... I mean an Adult. He's also the chosen one
>in MM he's a slightly older kid that gets fucked by a cursed kid and transforms into different species to save the day
>in WW he's largely just some guy trying to save his sister and some other folk in the process. Also he controls the wind
>in TP he's a fucking dog for half the game with a very erotic imp on his back.
And you're telling me: "Oh no he couldn't be a girl. That would not fit with the lore at all" He can be literally any race and even a fucking animal but he can't be a fucking girl? Or he can't be captured while you play as Zelda? Go fuck yourself. "bu-but that was only temporary! he wasn't really a dog he was just transformed!" So what? You still played large fucking parts of the game as a god damn dog. SURELY you can survive being a girl for one game.
>>342499945
That much is obvious, But like I said they should just have owned up to it.
>>342488110
It it would take is 2 Finnish fucks to not like your game and it goes into the 70s
>>342501153
Take a good look at this thread again, tasteless retards are more common in the west than in Japan, this shit will sell regardless of what happens.
>Anti-censorship fags complain about the game
>"Journalists" consider anti-censorship fags, just gg
>Give the censored game an high score out of spite
It's not hard.
>>342499945
>>Do whatever the fuck you want with Link
>That's essentially what they're doing. Nintendo is a large company with a public face so they gave a PR response to avoid backlash. But the reason Link won't be a girl boils down to "we don't want to"
Oh the irony
>>342496268
If they get hacked to pieces anyway what the fuck do I care?
>>342489747
Was it really censored? Or is this just a meme?
>>342501334
Should they allow you to modify link's hair/eye color, alongside his weight, height and race?
Should they introduce male-samus?
What about a fem-mario?
The design of a mascot character like link is important, arbitrarily allowing the players to modify it, is a good way destroying it.
>>342502038
>Should they allow you to modify link's hair/eye color, alongside his weight, height and race?
Yes
>Should they introduce male-samus?
No
>What about a fem-mario?
Yes
>>342502001
A character's face was moved over another character's cleavage on the cover so their face isn't covered by the ESRB logo.
That's literally it
>>342502224
Go to bed Ben
>>342492269
>skyward sword
>93
Fucking disgusting
>>342501593
Not really. They get to do whatever the fuck they want with link they just can't respond to the public however the fuck they want.
>>342488110
Fire Emblem Opening Sales Comparison
1-[3DS] Fire Emblem Fates: Birthright / Conquest (Nintendo) {2015-06-25} — 353,201 / 536,121 [Famitsu Tracker Data]
2-[3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening (Nintendo) {2012-04-19} — 242,600 / 481,865
3-[NDS] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon (Nintendo) {2008-08-07} — 147,704 / 252,309 [Famitsu Tracker Data]
4-[WII] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn (Nintendo) {2007-02-22} — 73,337 / 171,924 [Famitsu Tracker Data]
5-[WIU] Genei Ibun Roku #FE (Nintendo) {2015-12-26} — 23,806 / NEW [Famitsu Tracker Data]
Shin Megami Tensei Opening Sales Comparison
1-[3DS] Shin Megami Tensei IV (Atlus) {2013-05-23} — 188,562 / 262,150
2-[PS2] Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne (Atlus) {2003-02-20} — 151,203 / 245,520 [Famitsu Tracker Data]
3-[NDS] Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey (Atlus) {2009-10-08} — 91,000 / 136,149 [Famitsu Tracker Data]
3-[PS2] Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne Maniax (Atlus) {2004-01-29} — 40,907 / 77,791 [Famitsu Tracker Data]
4-[WIU] Genei Ibun Roku #FE (Nintendo) {2015-12-26} — 23,806 / NEW [Famitsu Tracker Data]
Daily Reminder that even the Japs are laughing at the people who will buy this censored garbage:
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/8606187.html
>>342488294
It's localized by Atlus.
>>342489747
HAHAAH
Deadpool was Rated at 14A in Canada
You can watch a guy get but fucked and gore out the ass and hear fuck 84 times at the age of 15.
BUT NO NO NONO NO Our video game better not have cleavage. Kill yourself idiot.
>>342500908
Sure, but it's one that would have drawed ire from all the crybabies who demand link be a female protag in a mainline zelda game. These people will never be sated, giving a lore reason is the least offensive
>>342501334
>I mean fuck it's not like Zelda games are consistent from game to game.
Link is a boy in every single Zelda game. It's one of the characters defining traits.
>But like I said they should just have owned up to it.
Which would have never happened, because again Nintendo is a large public-facing companies.
Lesser known Japanese developers can get away with saying "I like Tits!" because they don't have to answer to western audences. I believe Harada-san brought this up in a recent interview over why Summer Lesson isn't being localized outside of Japan.
“Also when you think about the current game situation and the climate in different countries where you have to have characters from every different race or nationality, someone else would say ‘mine is not included,’ which is the climate we currently see with games. Since there are people who can’t set aside the game and the actual problems in society, I don’t want open that can of worms" - Harada, the game director
>Gameplay looks great, anyone who has bothered to play it says it plays great
>Hate idols with extreme prejudice
>Taking out fanservice of a fanservice game
What a gay earth.
>>342502490
Under supervision from NoA. Since they're publishing it in the west
It's the same story with Braviry Default.
>>342501334
>If race doesn't matter why not make the main character black?
>If race doesn't matter why make the main character black?
>SJW sites like Polygon hate almost anything from Japan
>jrpg got heavily censored and most gamers complained about it and decided to boycott it by not pirating
>SJWs give it positive reviews
Hmmmmm!
>>342495851
>Nintendo paid critics to score it better than they usually would have
>They did
>>342503732
>boycott it by not pirating
I'm not sure that's how it works.
>>342503732
>boycott it by not pirating
How did they manage that?
>>342504037
>>342504089
Sorry. I meant by not buying it.
![link_generations_by_zerjer97-d62os96-why-a-live-action-zelda-netflix-series-would-be-widely-successful-png-299012[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xE3BKXu.jpg "link_generations_by_zerjer97-d62os96-why-a-live-action-zelda-netflix-series-would-be-widely-successful-png-299012[1].jpg")
>>342502038
Nigga can you fucking read? I'm not saying "OMG THEY SHOULD" I'm saying THEY TOTALLY COULD BUT IF THEY DON'T WANT THEN THAT'S TOTALLY OK TOO you fucking turbo backwards ass mongrel. And to your questions, Why the fuck not? Link has been INCREDIBLY diverse over the years. He has been 2D has been a Kid, has been a teen has been an adult has been a toon has been a dog has been fucking almost everything except a girl. So why is the leap for you that fucking big? Who cares if you adjust his hight when there are pretty much 20 fucking different Links anyway? Male Samus can't be worse than other M samus so give it a try. Why not fem mario? You already pleayed as Peach and it was pretty much Identical. You just could float making her even better than mario in a number of levels.
And like I said, If you could read you would understand that I'm not saying "omg you have to give us fem-link" I'm saying there is no reason not do it besides not wanting to. And not wanting too is a perfectly acceptable reason you turbotard
>>342502679
>it's one of his defining traits.
It's totally not. He has been a boy but he has no male traits whatsoever. he's an androgynous fuck in most of them, and he doesn't really have any typical male character traits other than maybe that he's a bit intimidated by girls he likes in OoT. But that's hardly "one of his defining traits", His defining traits are that fucking tunic and that he is brave. that he shows courage and does what's right no matter what he has to face. "Being a man" is a defining trait for duke nukem or serious sam or even Dante to an extend. But certainly not one of Links.
>>342492915
>God Hand deserves that score
Nice try
>>342503645
Like I said earlier. Missing the point. You don't have to do anything. You however could do anything. Tell the story you want to tell and don't behind silly excuses like "oh it's too hard to come up with a reason to play as zelda" because it is fucking not. I bet that most anons could come up with 5 reasons at least for a plot that involves you to play as zelda.
It's not about "I want muh diversity!" (I don't give a rats ass about diversity, I'm a fucking blonde, blue eyed german) It's about not giving absolute bullshit excuses. You CAN make a protagonist black if you want to. But you don't have too if you don't feel like it. It's your story.
>>342503645
Its a style choice. I think that everyone thinks its 'progressive' these days to do stuff like that.
But they would never make the MC a chinese guy, native american, or even Hispanic even though hispanics outnumber black people in America.
I think theres a tax credit for video games with 'diverse' casts, maybe thats why they do it.
Japan hasn't given a single fuck about that line of reasoning.
>>342497505
>Yo homeslice! What's groovin? What are the haps?
Oh my fuck
I have to watch a lets play of this just for the retarded dialogue if this is true
>>342489274
Are there any reviews of games where the reviewer actually, specifically took off points because of sexiness?
>>342504257
When did you found out you suffered from autism?
Because being unable to understand why a huge characteristic such as one's genre is an important aspect of a given character, means either deep stupidity or mental illness.
>>342497505
>>342504257
>Nigga can you fucking read? I'm not saying "OMG THEY SHOULD" I'm saying THEY TOTALLY COULD BUT IF THEY DON'T WANT THEN THAT'S TOTALLY OK TOO you fucking turbo backwards ass mongrel. And to your questions, Why the fuck not? Link has been INCREDIBLY diverse over the years. He has been 2D has been a Kid, has been a teen has been an adult has been a toon has been a dog has been fucking almost everything except a girl. So why is the leap for you that fucking big? Who cares if you adjust his hight when there are pretty much 20 fucking different Links anyway?
Preach on brother.
>Male Samus can't be worse than other M samus so give it a try. Why not fem mario? You already pleayed as Peach and it was pretty much Identical. You just could float making her even better than mario in a number of levels.
Oh shit, nigga! What is you doing!?
>>342494994
I've already played her game. Doing some post-game item grinding is a fucking pain in the ass and I'm getting burnt out on it.
>>342506089
Not him but, answer me this: Link being male is important to the character because....
>>342499903
Reincarnations.
Using Dark Souls as an example, Manus broke apart when beaten and reincarnated into several girls.
Not saying they have to have a girl link, but consistency in the lore doesn't seem like it would be the reason to have Link stay a male.
I'd say the real reason Link stays a male is becauseLink is iconic
>>342504257
>It's totally not. He has been a boy but he has no male traits whatsoever.
Literally every single Link you've posted is male.
>>342506940
Because Link is male as defined by the lore and Nintendo themsleves
>then change the lore!
They're not going to. "They can!" is not an argument. Progressive fallacy is still a fallacy.
>>342506940
>Link being male is important to the character because....
Link is a mascot.
>>342507342
Link is male because women fucking suck and can't do anything good without being genetically engineered soldiers like Samus
>>342506940
Males prefer playing as males, they're also the majority of the consumer-base.
Girls don't care, and actually they might even prefer good-looking males as protagonists (see sports shounen).
Secondly because link is and as always been male.
Thirdly because the gender of mascots is an important aspect of them.
The sex (or any trait) of a fictional character are not set in stone and can be changed if necessary, but you need a really good reason to do so.
>>342506089
faggot how is his gender part of his character in any way? In what situation is there in OoT where you think "Oh this can only work because he's a guy". Answer: fucking none. Link displays ZERO manliness throughout any of his games because him being male isn't defining of him in any well. If you think Link you tend to think "green, Sword 'n board, hero, courage" and likely "songs with magical powers" that's what they hammer in every fucking game. Those are the ingredients you need to make a Link. They put them ON A FUCKING DOG ONCE. They can just as well put them on a girl and call it a fucking day. Hell. in OoT you could barely even tell that he's a boy until he turns older.
>>342507439
Yes, they are. But it's not their defining trait. And I posted them because that anon said "it wouldn't fit with the lore" when Zelda Lore is already a vastly convoluted mess that's all over the fucking place. I really don't get why ya'all niggas are fine with him being a deku-kid, a zora guitarist and a fucking dog but him being female is too much of a stretch.
>>342489238
>techraptor gave it a 6.5/10
>not on metacritic
this is why people should boycott to OpenCritic
http://opencritic.com/game/2399/tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe
>>342507439
>Because Link is male as defined by the lore and Nintendo themsleves
Understood. However, that fact does not answer the question. It only speaks to what Nintendo has decided, it does not speak on why that decision is important to the character. You know, things like behaviors, actions, thoughts, and feelings that the player identifies as being unique to Link.
>>342507487
Not a bad reason. However, As a mascot, Link has been portrayed very differently throughout his life. As the previous anon already laid out for us. Link has been so many things. And every time he changes, that no form takes on the role of mascot.
>>342507869
>But it's not their defining trait.
Yes it is.
>I really don't get why ya'all niggas are fine with him being a deku-kid, a zora guitarist and a fucking do
All of them are male.
>>342508135
>It only speaks to what Nintendo has decided,
That's all that matters.
There has yet to be a single reason given to why the decision NOT to make Link a woman is important.
>>342494751
>#FEcucks
http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe/critic-reviews
>2 pending reviews
honestly if one of these give it a 6/7, #FE's sure to be lowered to a mediocre 79
>>342507869
>deku kid, zora, wolf
Gameplay elements which are also presented as problems to solve at the start of the game.
Link's cunt would add nothing to that, I like link's cunt but let's be real here
>>342507869
> I really don't get why ya'all niggas are fine with him being a deku-kid, a zora guitarist and a fucking dog but him being female is too much of a stretch.
Because those aren't the default but transformation due to game mechanics.
People wouldn't really complain about femLink, if it were some kind of transformation needed to access a women-only area.
>>342508135
>muh fee fees
no they don't matter
fuck off sjw
>>342508135
Link has been portrayed as an adolecent boy and a teenage boy.
Every other Link form takes place as a transformation that is justified by the narrative of the game's they take place in. Anon is being disingenous by conflating transformations with his core identity. Link doesn't get reincarnated as Goron or a wolf and remain that way for the majority of the game.
>>342488110
Why?
The game isn't good. It's entry level weebshit that gives decent JRPGs a bad name.
>>342507812
>Males prefer playing as males, they're also the majority of the consumer-base.
That is valid on an industry level, if you were a jew pushing sheckles around, thinking about how to maximize profits. However, as a consumer, you shouldn't be concerned with a corporation's business. As you are not being paid by them. The quality of the product is your priority.
If Link had an option to choose between male and female, then it could serve the interests of those wanting a male Link, and those wanting a female Link. With the potential of pulling in more players, thanks to the option. It also gives the added value to fans who want to try a different sex just for the hell of it.
>Secondly because link is and as always been male.
If change should need a reason, then so does tradition. Merely stating something is traditional, does not justify it.
>Thirdly because the gender of mascots is an important aspect of them.
See >>342508135
>but you need a really good reason to do so.
You really don't. You only need a good reason to get other people on board with your idea. But as a creator, Nintendo can change anything on a whim. However, they have already implemented an in-world mechanic that could justify a female Link. So there you go.
>>342507487
Your mascot has been:
>a pixelated mess
>a sidescrolling pixelated mess
>a pink headed pixel-elf with some shade
>a super pixelated mess
>a kid (in 3 colour variants)
>a young man
>a tree-man
>a rock eating fatty
>a Guitar Playing Fish-man
>a cartoon kid
>a Goat Herder
>a dog
>a little guy with a god damn weird bird as his god damn hat
>driving around in a fucking train
>one of four clones of himself
>a season changing stick wielder
And fuck know what else I'm forgetting. Your "mascot" has been pretty much everything except female. The only thing that REALLY defines Link is that he shows courage in the face of danger. You don't need any more. Put green clothing on something, give it courage and a sword: BAM Instant Link recognition.
Out of all these links there are only a handful that are not super androgynous or so pixelated that you couldn't tell anyway. Being Male is absolutely not part of the "Link Mascot formula" because NONE of the mentioned links show any form of masculinity whatsoever. they don't do manly things they don't do particularly boyish things. They do Hero things and show courage. That's what makes a Link.
>>342488110
>82
>Back below SMTIV where it belongs
Good.
