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CIVILIZATION VI - E3 2016 Walkthrough
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKUFvo3_FYQ

Looks even more dumbed down from Civ5
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This shit looks cool though
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>>342481624
Did the game's modelers get Howard Taft mixed up with Theodore Roosevelt?
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>>342481881
>lowtest twink detected
the man got shot and finished an hour long speech. He went out west and was a cowboy thats the body of a real man
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>>342481881
That's just how the average American look, anon.
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>>342481624
I hate America but I respect Teddy Roosevelt.
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>>342481624
Is civilization a 4X game?
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>>342482684
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>>342481624
>roosevelt is fat
>he wasn't fat irl
>mfw
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>>342481624
looks promising.
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>>342482684
dude was a gay nazi though
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>>342483068
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Is Civ a resource game? I wanna play a civilization/city builder that advances at my pace
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>>342482150
>le lowtest detected meme
What's with people on anime imageboards pretending they have high testosterone levels?
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I do not like that Teddy.
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>>342481624
He was fatter when he was president, but most people are just used to seeing photos of him when he was younger.
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>>342483345
try cities: skylines
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Cleopatra confimred leader of Egypy
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>>342484443
*shit egypt
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>>342484443
That's been known for weeks. At least she's not speaking Arabic (or maybe she is and I'm retarded).
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>>342481624
is that sean bean
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>>342485217
ye
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>>342483304
Fucking Taft
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>>342483618
Niggers
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>>342485217
Yes.
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>>342484443
>Those tits
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>>342481624
Nice Clash of Clans graphics. Cease and desist letter when?
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Do we know who China yet?
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>>342485392
TAFT YOU FUCK
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>>342485571
I know, just kinda looks like they're running out of ideas at this point too. Just the same shit, but with Districts and Wonders requiring their own tile and that Govt Policy menu. Other than that literally the same game from what I can tell. Pretty disappointing, definitely not going to pick up at release.
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>>342481624
im still oging to try it. civ is some fun and comfy vidya
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>>342481881
Theodore was more built like a brick wall as seen in the in OP's picture while Taft was like and oversized tear drop.
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>>342481674
>Trait picking instead of having dynamic changeable government types

Why..
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>>342484443
I am kind of confused as to why Cleopatra is the leader of Egypt. She was basically a Roman whore whose entire reign was facilitated by Roman politics.
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Why does he look like Gaben?
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>>342486795
They wanted famous personalities rather than good leaders for their agenda system.
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>>342487343

This is a good decision. The most important thing is having an AI that's fun to play against.
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>>342481624
I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't like Sean Bean's accent. They better keep him around for the DLC and shit thought, I don't want Sid Meier reading quotes ever again.
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It's gonna be a 5 all over again.

>game releases
>everyone hates on it and the new features
>people get used to them eventually
>DLC is released
>everyone forgets about the previous game
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>>342487898
I'm just happy 6 has a lot of the stuff they added in 5's DLC. Vanilla 5 was boring as fuck.
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Am I the only one who things the new one looks pretty neat?

Civ V looks like shit so I'm not to bothered by the cartoony artstyle, at least now things will be easier to see.

The UI looks pretty shit though, I will say that.
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>>342487898

Civ V was hated because its vanilla was gutted. It needs DLC to be good.
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>all this hype about an even more casualized, ugly mess
>nobody talks about Endless Legend

This and those WoW threads, Skyrim shit, Mass Effect, Battlefield nonsense really shows how neo-/v/ is a very real thing.
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>>342488194
Literally looks like Civ5 all over again. Only Districts now and Govt policies. Nothing new.
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>>342488646
Yeah. And Civ 5 is great.
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>>342488572
Did Endless Legend 2 got confirmed? Did they add new DLC?! Oh well then shut up.
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>>342481624
shallow
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>>342488701
>Did they add new DLC?!

A few weeks ago actually, yes.
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>>342486795
this game has fuckin NAZI Gandhi and you wonder why cleo is choosen??
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>civ 6

Damn, I'm still playing 3 like a raging autist.
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>>342488685
Enjoy paying 60 dollars for nothing new you silly goy
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>>342488572
I've never tried it since I tend to find turn based 4X game a bit boring(damn Paradox have spoiled me with their real time games)

Sell me on it anon. What makes it more fun than something like Civ?
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Cleopatra looks wierd in the defeat screen.

The artstyle and Fog of War looks better in motion than the reveal screenshots.

I'm not sure though, I feel betrayed since Beyond Earth and Rising Tide.
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>>342488925
Have you heard of these mystical things called, torrenting, sales, and resellers?
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>>342488968
yea they aren't innovating or adding anything new. The district shit could just be a 10 dollar expansion to Civ5 tbqh
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hitler in?
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>>342483304
What does this face convey?
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>>342488968
>I'm not sure though, I feel betrayed since Beyond Earth and Rising Tide.

You could tell from the beginning that BE was filler made by the b team meant to fill in the space between Civ V and Civ VI. I'm not sure how people were tricked.
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>>342488847
Nope. And if you mean bat guys thats old already.
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>>342481624
>tfw medieval era doesn't have feudalism (vassals, lords, etc)
Typical firaxis
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>>342481624
>All they had to do was make Civ IV 64 Bit and DirectX11/12
>Instead they made a dumbed down Civ V which was already a dumbed down Civ IV which was already a dumbed down Civ III

Please fucking kill the fucktards who run this franchise. Just give to to the Directors who work on XCOM please. PLEASE.
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>>342488948
It's fantasy Civ with more focus on exploration, a beautiful map, very original and creative races with pretty unique playstyles and a bit more focused endgame due to a dynamic quest system. Also the music is fantastic:

https://youtu.be/XhG6Qaij7VE
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>>342489149
Lots of feedback during beta and after release what felt wrong/missing, expansion came and changed a few things to spice it up but it feels so bland it just makes me want to go play SMAC and Civ 5.
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>>342489072
Poor guy, he doesn't know...
merkel has been confirmed ;-;
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>>342489258
No, this is different from civ
It's like a fantasy civ.
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>>342489198
Why would it? The games have almost no politics in them to begin with apart from some simple polices and shit like that.
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>>342487898
> 5
> Implying this wasn't the case with 3 and 4 as well
Underage pls
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>>342484443
>she's not black like rev
Fuck, I wanted to make WE WUZ jokes
Atleast they're going the historically accurate route
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>>342488572
>Enjoy WoW
>Enjoy Battlefield
>Enjoy Mass Effect 1 and 2
>Also enjoy Endless Legend

So are you neo-/v/ too or??????
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>>342489276
>a living person being in a civ game
lmao
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>>342489328
Civ VI clearly said that a leader can unite tribes
Like the EU3 vassal system
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>>342489258
So, it's sort of Civ with more rpg on the side instead of Civs?
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>>342489276
made me look, thank god
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>>342489532
>>342489276
Mwahahaha
White master race again
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/682439/Angela-Merkel-migrant-crisis-Syria-Africa-European-Union-EU-referendum-Brexit
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>>342489072
>>342489276
>>342489532
It's just gonna be good old Big Fred isn't it?
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>>342489394
Cleopatra wasn't really Egyptian to be fair.
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>>342489827
What was she?
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>>342489827
She's greek
She's the heir of Ptolemy
Retarded Firaxis doesn't know she's white
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>>342489524
Definitely more RPG. You can even equip your lords and units with items. Also the combat, while still flawed and kinda weird, is way better than in the Civ games.
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Theodora the whore sickens me
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>>342489923
Macedonian.
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>>342489394
Don't worry they'll add Ramesses later and give him a coat of tar.
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>>342490016
So it's like a combo of CK2??
Well, damn.
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>>342490016
Sounds fun. Hope it gets a decent sale in a few hours.
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>>342490097
Yeah sure, MACEDONIA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_naming_dispute
http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/MacedonianGreekConflict/conflict.html
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>>342488646
>nothing new
>except for these things that drastically alter some of the core aspects of the game
You're forgetting the terrain-contextual research and unit nesting, too.
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>>342490016
>>342490174
Also. How vital is the DLC? Are we talking CivV vital or more just some neat additions?
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>>342490187
>>342490097
She's greek
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Macedonia shouldn't even fucking exist.

Bulgaria and Serbia should've divided it up together.
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>>342490187
WE WUZ GREEKS
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>>342490274
The vanilla game is good on its own but the DLC is pretty neat and adds lots of stuff to the mid- and endgame. Would definitely recommend it if it's on sale.
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>>342490347
YOU ARE STILL GREEK SINCE 2000BC
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Why do people think this game is fun? I tried civilization V and it was just so boring. I've always enjoyed total war games because in them you can atleast battle with your armies.
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>>342490114
>>342490174
It's still close to Civ in many mechanics though. If you really hate Civ as a whole then I kinda doubt that you will like Endless Legend.
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>>342489258
>more focused endgame
You're kidding. EL's endgame is weak as shit. It's the main reason I prefer Civ V.
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>>342490315
Well. Same thing really. Macedonian is only more in depth.
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>>342490484
It really depends on your faction and which DLC you own. It's not perfect but certainly better than Civ 5.
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>>342488194


I think it looks fine despite the memes. The individual tiles actually mattering thing would look like shot in 5's graphics.
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>>342490372
Aight. Thanks.

>>342490468
Well, I do like Civ. Just in general I'm not to hot on the turn based stuff.
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>>342490426
Because it is. You are just one of those people that has to have a bright light, a loud sound or blood to keep their attention.
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>not playing endless comfyness
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>>342490426
Cause people have different tastes
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>>342481624
I hate the mobile game look of this civ but otherwise it looks decent enough.
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>>342490256
That barely changes anything. It's a minor bonus, not all that different from pantheons. The game looks waayy too similar to Civ 5.
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>>342486453
Where does it say that it is not dynamic?
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>>342490649
>not playing both
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>>342488194


I think it looks fine despite the memes. The individual tiles actually mattering thing would look like shot in 5's graphics.


Anyway I'm cautiously optimistic for 6. I like the sound of most of the changes, but then again I liked the sound of beyond earth and that was a boring peice of shit.
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>>342490426
>total war shitter again
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>russia
fucking Catherine again
>germany
probably something boring again like Wilhelm II
>france
100% Napoleon
>probably a couple of shitty 14-15 century civilizations that no one ever needed like Aztecs
kill me
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>>342490727
Sure, if you ignore the drastically different artstyle and the entirely new approach to city and government management.
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>>342482150
>not being a qt twink
>being so disgusting and fat that you actually become attracted to other disgusting and fat people yourself
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>>342490649
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>>342490426
I usually avoid war in Civ games unless I lack vital resources. It's much more fun to go for cultural domination. It's awesome when cities want to join your civilization.
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>>342490879
>drastically
>entirely

Nice try, Firaxis.
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>>342491043
It's still important to have a good army or other civs treat you like a little bitch.
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>>342490862

Why would you want Nicholas II, he was an idiot.
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>>342490649
>check steam
>$76 CAD for the complete edition
>and that's during the sale

I need to know if it's actually that good.
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>>342491043
I usually avoid war in Civ V because you spend an hour every turn shuffling your units around.
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>>342491256
it's good, but not as addictive as Civ. Not worth fucking worth $76 though.
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>>342490862
>germany
>barbarossa never ever

Also, fuck you. Mayas were fucking OP in Conquests.
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>>342489198
feudalism never existed
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>>342481624
>Looks even more dumbed down from Civ5
How so anon?

What elements do you think are dumbed down?
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>>342481624
Would a civilization/minecraft style game be fun?
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>>342490862
>doesn't want Aztecs
lol faggot
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>>342486453
>>342490742

They are dynamic and changeable. You can literally change them every turn if you have the money for it.

There are government types again in this game. They're unlocked along the Civic tree and besides specific bonuses, they have different number of available slots divided between Military, Economic, Diplomatic, and Wildcard policies (the one in the picture is Early Republic- it gets one of each type of slot; Oligarchy gets 2 Economic, 1 Diplomatic and 1 Wildcard, and Autocracy gets 2 Military, 1 Economic and 1 Wildcard). Wildcard slots have their own type of card OR you can put any of the other policy types in the slot - that's why they're called Wildcard.

You get a free policy switch any time you research a Civic that unlocks a policy, otherwise it costs gold. The Civic tree is a separate tree from the Technology tree this time.

So anyway, in the picture, if you decide you need to build up an early navy fast, you can just swap out Survey or Inspiration for Maritime Industries, and then change it back when you're done.

It's not like the Civics of Civ 5 where you once you've chosen it's locked in.
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Nthing the age of wonders 3 recommendation. Game is legit one of the best fantasy 4x games released in years and both it's expansions were great.


I wonder why nobody has tried to mix the high diplomacy stuff of civ in a fantasy 4x. Imagine being able to win economically by using magic to poison every land but yours
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>>342481624
looks like a lazy phone game. nothing really new or interesting brought to the series.
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>>342491850
age of wonders was shit and always crashed
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>>342490649
>>342490912
So where do I get the .apk for this?
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>>342491591
He's retarded
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>>342491961
no it doesn't

name one mobile game that looks as good as civ 6
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>>342491759
>Montezuma: "Hey anon, want to trade your hot techs for 50 gold per round, diamonds, spice and silk?
>oh fuck yes
>next round: "The treacherous Aztecs declared war on us!"

The biggest assholes in the whole game.
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>>342492117
Stop being a faggot. I'm a big fan of Civ but it does look like a fucking mobile game. Still going to buy it though.
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>>342492380
no, you stop being a faggot and name a single game that looks as good as civ 6

I'll wait.
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>>342492325
Biggest asshole are the greeks.
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>>342492380
>>342492435
Just fuck already, faggots.

The art direction change is weird, but it looks good desu.
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>>342492486
>>342492325
I named my corvette classes in stellaris after asshole civ5 leaders.

Atilla-Class, Montezuma-Class, Alexander-Class, Shaka-Class, Nobunaga-Class
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>>342492435
It has the character models of a fucking mobile game, you dumb cunt. Now you're just being retarded on purpose.
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>>342492653
Show me the mobile game
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>>342492713
Civilization Revolution 2

Now go eat nigger cock, faggot.
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>>342492653
What. The character models actually look really high quality.

Just because it has a more cartoony and wacky artstyle dosn't make it mobile graphics.
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>>342492854
topkek

nope. I'm going to buy the game but to say they look "high quality" is a fucking delusion.
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>>342492847
they look barely alike

stop being an angry deluded cynic
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>>342493034
>they have too look exactly alike

into the trash you go, you lose, faggot.
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>>342492951
I wish I had your phone.

Mine doesn't even have close to having 2gb's of vram.
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>>342493294
Whatever, faggot. Keep lying to yourself, m8.
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>>342493474
I will.
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>>342490862
>>probably a couple of shitty 14-15 century civilizations that no one ever needed like Aztecs
>Implying it won't be even more shitty sub-saharan african "civilizations"
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>>342483304
reminder taht president taft got stuck in the white house bathtub and needed assistance getting out.
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>>342494190
no cares, redditor dipshit.
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Buildings and techs and even policies have no fucking art, only shitty minimalistic icons.

FUCK. THAT.
PROPER ART makes EVERYTHING COMFY!

Look at HOMM, look at CIV V, look at fucking Endless Legend.

Fucking total war Shogun 2 or Napoleon.

Fuck you Firaxis, this looks like a mobile game.
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>>342494358
those are place holders, retard.
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>>342494358
>Shogun 2 art
Fuck yes, the aesthetics was god tier.
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>>342490649
more like endless DoF
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>>342494358

Also, leaders look whacky tacky + static background.
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>>342494462

Wanna bet?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8wekKcs6UE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vVGQThK01M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4MHZHd-QHE&t=8m48s
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Is there a list of rulers out yet?
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>>342494718
The devs said it in one of their videos, faggot.
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>>342494815
We know four of them for sure, and the rest are speculation from interviews/unique units:

America: Theodore Roosevelt
(Aztecs: Montezuma?) (They've been mentioned in interviews, but haven't been explicitly shown off.)
China: Qin Shi Huang (/Shihuangdi)
Egypt: Cleopatra
India: (Probably Gandhi, but no pictures of him yet) - War Elephant unique unit
Japan: Hojo Tokimune
Spain: ? - Conquistador unique unit
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>>342495189
when
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I hope the background of the leader screens is just a placeholder too because they're so boring.
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>>342497829
it might be so simple because the leaders can be easily swapped between civs and make it simpler for modders

i dunno
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Sean Bean is fine and all, but I prefer Leonard Nimoy.
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>its the same e3 demo play

fucking faggot made me think it was new actual gameplay footage

kill yourself
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>>342495986
>Japan's ruler is based off a handsome actor's depiction in a tv show

>China's ruler is based off of a retarded toad

kek
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>>342500587
superior nippon genes
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>>342495189
Provide proofs?
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>those tits on cleopatra

oh yes. ohhhh yes.

shame the game looks is gonna look and play like a mobile game though.

>$60
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>>342495986
Why does Hojo Tokimune look white?
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>>342481624
>make deal
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>>342504383
basically this guy
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>>342495986
fat erasure
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>>342489276
you scared the shit out of me anon.
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>>342489276
do not joke like that
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>>342487559

So does that mean the AIs will act more like NPCs you can reason with instead of just all becoming cunts because you shitted up a small nation that wouldn't leave you alone?
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>>342484443
>Egypsy

You're damn right
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Can you PLEASE say MoCtezuma with a C and not an N? Its MoCte not MoNte
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>>342506570
Monty
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>>342495986
Why not Toyotomi Hideyoshi, dude was the one who had the clean up the mess of the civil war.
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>>342504130

It doesn't look nearly that cheap. Granted, they could have tried for something a bit realistic with the stencil look for the characters.
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>>342506682
STOP SETTLING NEAR ME
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>sean bean

For what purpose
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>>342490649
> Welcome to megacity 1
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>>342507216
Because Keith David isn't available and Nimoy is dead.
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>>342481624
It's just so ugly. They had a guy say they chose that style to make it iconic. Jesus why???
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>>342481624
>no moveable backgrounds
expansion when
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>>342506273

Two agenda system for AI: one leader agenda that's always the same (unless there's, like, a randomization option) as it defines that leader - Egypt will always like you better if you have a strong army and be hostile if you have a weak one. Roosevelt will always dislike warmongers on his continent. So say they're both on your continent. You can deliberately bait Egypt into attacking by keeping a light military and draw America into coming to your aid because Egypt declared war on you.

There's also a second, hidden agenda for each AI that you have to find out through espionage (or observing their actions). It's drawn randomly from a pool of agendas, and could be things like "desires the biggest navy/likes high culture/wants to be the only civ on their continent" and that will modify their behavior a bit. So Teddy might not be as cordial to you being picked on if his plan was to get everyone out of America in the first place.

There should be a lot more personality and transparency to the diplomacy game this time.
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>>342490649
the combat is a fucking slog that you can't auto through on the higher difficulties
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Alright, I'll admit it

I'm kind of hype

That gameplay actually looks quite unique and fun, and even though I don't care for the art style much, the animation was top notch.
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>>342494358
>minimalistic
I really hate how the world is going towards this
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>>342489089
a stroke
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>>342490649

I played this when it first released and the AI was even more braindead than Civ BE. Has it been improved at all?
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>>342484443
Atleast they didn't pander to the afrocentrist
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>>342508007

I am digging the idea of the cities actually spreading across your area of control instead of just being those shitty little "forts" like before.
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>government system seems cool
>the stencil map of areas outside your vision looks great
>districts and wonders taking up tiles and sometimes requiring specific tiles adds depth
>certain technologies being boosted depending on where you're settled or what you do also adds more depth
>the social policy tree sounds like it can be much better than the social policies from V
>certain military units can be stacked again

Anyone saying it looks dumbed down from V has got to be shitposting, it has taken everything from V and improved and added onto it. Can't wait
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>>342482684
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>>342494358

>A game can't possibly get animations and more details in 4 months, tis impossible! Impossible, I SAY!
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When will we get the British instead of the English
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>>342508709
it's more of a matter of won't than can't, and you know full well they won't change anything significantly
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>>342508624
>districts and wonders taking up tiles and sometimes requiring specific tiles adds depth

Does that mean you can spam whatever Wonders you want anymore? Or that they won't have as much effect if they weren't built on a specific tile?
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Was Teddy really that American looking?
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>>342509106

>they won't

We'll see, 4 months is plenty of time to piece together 3 frame animations of idiots in robes giving you advice and drumming up small artworks for the techs. Ain't like it takes months to draw icons.
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>>342509129
They physically take up a tile, sometimes a specific one. Pyramids can only be built on a desert tile for example

also districts gain bonuses depending on location, like religious districts benefit you more for being built near mountains, etc.
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>>342509129

Mean you CAN'T spam, is what I meant to say.
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I've never played Civ before but it looks great.

What's best for beginners, IV or V?
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>>342506697
...and have the country plunged into another civil war immediately after his death following a failed war
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>>342488909

that changing of leader clothes and style to suit the era was GOAT. i honestly don't know why they didn't keep that. is that because plebs can't recognize Queen Elizabeth in 90's specs and a sharp business attire?
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>>342509549
5 with all expansions
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>>342509549

It's kind of a jagged split between them.

Many will say Civ4, while others will recommend Civ5, but only with all the expansions.

You can at least give V a shot with the demo to get a feel for things, it just won't have all the bells and whistles the expansions have.
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>>342509849
>i honestly don't know why they didn't keep that.

It's more shit to model.
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>>342509549

Is that GATE? What the fuck. I haven't watched since the mid season ending like a year ago.
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>>342509549
I played V first and I found that the most satisfying.
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>>342495986

>They actually made Cleo white.

THE MAD MEN.
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>>342481624
>Completely wipe out egypt
>Doom an entire nation of people to genocide
>American leader teddy with his big stick policy doesn't even react
Is this game going to be stunted until DLC makes it good?
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>>342510218

If it weren't for the fact they'd have to get more VAs and make a ton of models, I think it would be pretty cool to see the leaders change over time. Though I'm not sure how to make it happen as places like America would be changing constantly and practically requiring fanfic OCs for the latter years, though one idea could be that wars could see leaders being killed and succeeded by their successors if the nation isn't crushed by their enemies.
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>>342510232
No, that's not GATE.

>>342509869
>>342510118
>>342510341
I'll try the V demo then, thanks. It's on sale until the 4th so I have time.
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>>342481624
>>342484443
why are the backgrounds so drab?
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>>342510118
IV is the apex refinement of the original formula, fat crosses and stacks and all. Some of the best megamods, too.

V is the first try at a new paradigm - they didn't get everything right, but I still think it's a plenty worthwhile game (VI may make it largely redundant, though - not too many still play Civ III compared to IV, after all)
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>>342509549
>As if arrows would be able to penetrate heavy steel plating of an attack chopper

Stay retarded, animu
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>>342490862
Wat about the mesopotamian civilization?
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>>342511492

>muh realism

Only retard is you, chap.
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>>342510582
Well? What is it?
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>>342511734
Tell that to all the fat fucks who buy katanas thinking it would cut everything it touches
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>>342510582
It's GATE
this is clearly bait
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>>342512078
please fuck off.
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>>342490862
>russia
Stalin has already been in civ4 so to see him again would be nice. Or Lenin at least.
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>>342513818
>Stalin
>Lenin
You clearly never seen Breshnev
https://www.rt.com/politics/brezhnev-stalin-gorbachev-soviet-638/
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>>342489257
game is closer to civ 4 than any other entry in the series. All the shit from civ4 removed.

Still attracts posts like yours

Civ:be might have been shit but i am glad they didn't listen to "the fans" who just want the same shit they already play, just made prettier and nothing more.
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>>342506570
>MoCtezuma

It's Motēcuhzōma you Spanish imperialist pig
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Why is TR's face so chubby? He now looks more like Eggman than he does his original likeness
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>>342513818
It would make more sense for the Gorbachov and the later leaders to be shown rather Stalin and Lenin, both are far more "Soviet" than "Russian".
Stalin dindu nuffin, Gorbachov killed the USSR
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>>342511789
It's Owari no Seraph
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>>342514191
Even him would be better, I'm just tired of seeing those imperial russia leaders. Also, Ivan IV would be nice.
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>Civ V gets released
>Its shit
>People tell me it will be as good as BTS with expansions
>A few expansions come out
>It's still a consolized version of BTS
>Civ 6 gets announced
>Civ 5 is still an unplayable mess

You have 10 seconds to explain why you are hyped for this shit
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>>342491401

>Barbarossa
>Major achievements: Failing at crusades, drowning
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>>342513818

It won't be Stalin or Lenin again because they were Soviets, Stalin wasn't even a fucking Russian.
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>>342515068
He also liked to wreck cheeky Italian cities.

>Failing at crusades, drowning

He was 70 years old, give him a break.
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>>342515186
Like Saladin wasnt an arab.
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>>342515186
Napoleon wasn't French, Joan d'Arc wasn't the countries leader.

They don't care.
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>>342484443
To be fair, Cleopatra not being lily white could be due to her getting a tan. Egypt is famous for getting a lot of rays.

Doesn't explain the dark hair, though.
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>>342515613
>Doesn't explain the dark hair, though.
Shes fucking Greek.

(unless shes called blonde in historic texts)
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>>342514902
>Stop playing on Prince setting and lower
>Enjoy the game

you have 10 seconds to explain why you're retarded
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>>342490649
I have both EL and Civ 2 - 5, and I can honestly say all of the Civs are better, except for 3.

EL just gets boring after you hit the 4th era. Too little buildings, population hits cancerous rates of growth, and most of the land is gobbled up, meaning you need to rely on others for resources that run out after 10 turns. Even with 0 specialists in food, I usually hit 30 population in 5 cities by the end of a normal paced game. There's only so much Moonleaf can do for you when your population hits overdrive.

Not to mention the city building system is shit, the combat is garbage, it suffers from Beyond Earth syndrome with no variety in games, and each race places so drastically different they're playing different games entirely, so most of the time you don't interact with anyone (aside from the Necrophages)
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>>342515613
>>342515869

Even if she hadn't been naturally dark-haired, there were both wigs in her time and hair dye.

In fact, we even know the recipe for the dye: Mix lead oxide with slaked lime (a strong alkali) and water to make a paste. Rub this paste into the hair for three days. After this time, the hair will be dyed black throughout, and the dye won’t fade or wash out.

It's a permanent dye and that power is actually something we've only been able to kind of catch up to in modern times. There's just one drawback - it's toxic. Note the lead oxide part.

Lead poisoning is pretty slow, though, chances are it wouldn't have shown many signs until later in a user's life, if they even lived that long without some violence or disease-cause.

But Egypt nobility in particular used plenty of wigs (there are surviving examples in museums), and those would only need to be dyed once and the health risk would be even more marginal.

Point is, unnatural dark hair isn't a problem in Cleopatra's time.
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>>342515869
Greeks didn't have dark hair. Modern """"Greeks"""" are Turks. Mostly due to the Turkish genocide of the Greeks and population displacement. Even the gyro, one of the most quintessentially Greek foods out there, is a knockoff of Turkish cuisine.
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>>342516761
>"""""""memes"""""""
Just die already.
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>>342515903
Increasing the difficulty doesn't fix bad mechanics.
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>>342516761
Why do snowniggers feel the need to appropriate the greeks and romans? It's the same WE WUZ from the afrocentrists.
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>>342495986
>Hojo Tokimune
The only reason I can think of for why they picked him is that him spreading Zen Buddhism will give him a religion-focused leader agenda.
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>>342516761
talking straight out of your ass there senpai, look at the depicting of Alexander the Great, he has curly dark hair and tanned skin. Who started this fucking meme that southern euros were originally blond, pale and blue eyed? why the fuck would they be that way in the fucking south?
>Modern """"Greeks"""" are Turks
its actually the opposite you tard, look at modern turks and compare them to say the Ughyr people, or any other turkic people. Notice significant difference in appearance. Nomadic tribes do not have the numbers to replace or outbreed massive native populations, wholesale replacement like that almost never happened, there is an old latin saying:
>the conquered mourns, the conqueror is undone
you figure that one out anon
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>They'll never have the balls to add emperor Hirohito as Japanese leader
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>>342485575
Qin Shi Huangti
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There are still 17 Civs to show off in the game besides America, and there are 17 weeks left before launch.
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Why not just keep playing Alpha Centauri?

You know - The best game in the series and possibly in all of 4x.
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