Every single day, I see dozens of Overwatch threads saying "X character is broken!" Or "There's absolutely no way around Y character!". These complaints, while not only showing how bad /v/ is at this game, make a point very clear: there's a lot of characters in the game that people have a hard time getting around, so join me /v/, as I take you on a journey into the land of strategy. I'm gonna go through the whole cast and list off different counterpicks and strategies not just against, but for each character.
>>342447235
why do people like mei
everything about her is awful
>>342447235
It's been 11 minutes you stupid idiot, what's taking you so long
D.va - Headshots at mid range.She has big hit boxes.
Mei - Snipers. Tanks. Zarya, Reaper, and 76.
Genji - Winston, Mcree
Junkrat - High Mobility characters. Go Reinhardt if he spams over a wall.
Lucio - See Genji
Soldier 76 - No hard counters.
Mcree - Reaper, Tanks, or Pharah.
Tracer - Winsoton, Zarya, Mcree
Reaper - Anything ranged, Reinhardt for ults.
Winston - His sole purpose is to kill healers or camping defense characters. Focus him, or ignore him.
Pharah - Snipers, Zenyatta
Reinhardt - Symmetra, Reaper, Pharah
Symmetra - Genji, Mei, Roadhog
Torbjorn - Snipers, Junkrat, Roadhog
Bastion - Snipers, Junkrat, Genji, Mcree, Tracer - Roadhog
Hanzo - Any assault class if you get the drop on him. Tanks and Pharah otherwise.
Mercy - Everything
Zenyatta - Reinhardt, Hanzo, Junkrat.
>>342448346
Mercy counters Mercy? Who'd have guessed :P
>>342448456
Really, she is the only pure support. Her damage is so bad. Also, not the OP.
>>342448625
This was more in reference to Rez ult having an excellent answer in Rez ult. Nothing beats reviving your own team like the enemy reviving second.
PSA of my own: If you're a Junkrat, never stop launching grenades in the enemy direction. Down halls, over roofs, anywhere. Nothing worse than having a Junkrat camping somewhere while the entire enemy team sits on the payload behind a Reinhardt.
And they need to buff D.va already
>>342448346
>Winston counters Lucio
arguably. I'd give it more to Roadhog or Mei, someone who can answer his sick maneuverability.
>>342448178
Chris Jericho pls go
Wow thanks for your insight you autistic fuck.
>>342448346
You don't have her on here, but
Zarya - Don't shoot her when you see her bubble on herself or someone. It may seem coounterintuitive- "how can i kill someone if I don't shoot them!?" If you don't shoot the bubble, she has a fucking tickle feather gun. And she's much, much easier to kill when she can't really hurt you back. At that point, she can feel like a support.
>>342448346
>Mei
>Countered by Reaper
You're wrong and have never played the game. Even aimed directly at the head, he can't kill her before she freezes him provided they both shoot at the same time
>>342449214
>what is pressing shift as reaper.
>>342448346
>not listing pharah's actual hard counter, soldier 76
His hitscan melts her, she cant get behind cover from the air, and if he plops down a biotic field, he can survive an extra rocket or two(depending on if direct hits or not)
>>342448346
>Genji and Mercy not countered by Torbjorn
it's like you actually have no idea
you can't mowdown a lv2 turret in one clip/deflect + one slowdps genji clip before it killsyou
>>342449214
>what is lshift
>>342449339
>what is pressing shift as mei
>>342449214
Two shots. You press shift. You leave shift. You shoot her once. She iceblocks. You reset, since your cooldowns are shorter.
Assuming your two shots weren't headshots, in which case she will be dead anyways.
>>342449359
76 is good against everything really. He has one of the highest win rates for that reason. The only things he seems to struggle against is Reinhardt at close range.
>>342448346
Mei - countered by 76? Just no.
Junkrat - Reindhart? Rofl
76 - What the fuck is Mei?
Winston - Your summary r ammusing
Reinhardt - Not listing Mcree or Widow
Symmetra - Listing specific heroes
Torbjorn - Not listing the massive robot with the mobile shield
Hanzo - What is a Widowmaker
Zenyatta - Not listing a vicious fart, kick in the shin, or any sniper with downs & mild enough ADD to keep focus on the game
>>342448937
I can usually get away from Mei as Lucio by pushing them away when they are trying to freeze me.
Then with Roadhog I'm able to push him back after he hooks me and the hook animation ends, but from all the games I've played, it doesn't seem to work all the time.
>>342449676
Forgot to add...You're a fucking retard OP
>>342449214
That's not true in any way shape or form.
Reaper's shotgun does 2-7 damage per pellet, and shoots 20 pellets, with a rof of twice per second.
A point blank shotgun to the face will kill mei in one fucking shot, granted every single pellet hittiing the head is infeasable in most situations.
It takes mei 2 full seconds of fire to freeze a target, reaper will kill her well before that every time, and if he fuckes up and doesn't, he can ghost out for free.
>>342449756
I'm not entirely sure how her freeze's range matches up with push off, but it's probably not too hard for her to outrange it while freezing.
Roadhog is really just a fucking reflex game, push vs shoot.
McCree is a good counter with that flash, and S76 throwing his ult kills me when I'm not paying close enough attention.
The balance is really good right now, if d.va, symmetra and torbjorn get buffs it would be perfect.
>>342450237
>torbjorn
I hear he's absolutely buttfucking the consoles right now.
Like, defense games are just torbjorn, and since consoles can't aim for shit at a range, they usually can't break through 3+ turrets.
Thank god they've seperated the balance between the platforms
>>342448346
roadhog does not counter torb
>>342447457
because she is useful and isnt just another slayer, tank or healer. she is different and has her uses
>>342449676
Mei - Drop your heal when she tries to freeze you, and her headshot/melee combo can't kill you.
Reinhardt - Shield blocks Mcree stun. You hit him with your hammer. Widowmaker is a fucking sniper.
Torborn - Turret AI is laughably stupid. If Reinhardt charges your turret, you shotgun him. Or drop a new turret and watch him charge off a cliff.
Hanzo/Widowmaker - Sniper wars are not worth discussing.
Zenyatta - Stop playing him aggressively. If you don't have someone in front of you, you're doing it wrong. Zen and Zarya are sleeper OP, and will win games if played well.
>>342450237
>Torbjorn
>Get a buff
I bet you want Bastion to get his shield back from beta too. /lol
>>342450539
Console players are fucking retarded. I mean that in the nicest way possible. Too many years of COD and Battlefield. TF2 had the same problem.
*playing on PS4 and PC
>>342448346
I like how you didn't mention Widowmaker. Because she's still broken. The nerf did nothing to her.
>>342450661
Use da hook. He ults? Use da heal!
Pull him out of LOS of his turret, stupid.
>>342450237
Mercy's ult desperately needs to be nerfed, and some characters need a couple buffs, but other than that the game is actually in a pretty good spot.
Organized games are revolving entirely around mercy's ult at the moment. It allows for some really stupid things like intentionally having all 5 players push in too hard just to be brought back by mercy.
Defensive mercys are going front lines and healing without care for death when they have ult, because she needs to be picked off first so they don't have healing. Then she's the first to respawn and gets to undo the entire enemy's successful push by pressing ult
It's getting really silly
>>342450237
Widow needs to go down to 150 health and D.Va needs some kind of buff but otherwise I agree
>>342447457
Brain dead character that can take advantage of the fact that randoms spread out all over the place, don't help each other, and most of the cast is useless against her at close range 1 on 1. On top of that the average Mei player is selfish as fuck and uses her abilities as nothing but two "oh shit" buttons rather than contesting with her block or actually using the wall to separate the enemy team, they always want to have them to save their own ass.
>>342451005
I forgot her and Zarya desu
Genji shits on her in general. She is a sniper, moreso than Hanzo. Snipers are always the case where close range or surprise attacks lead to victory. This depends more on teamwork and/or map design though.
>>342451050
torbs turret has a long ass range and he is generally in the back of the enemy team, out of range.
also an ulted torb can usually beat a roadhogg, even close up.
>>342450794
You haven't actually fought a Mei as a 76.
Shield blocks everything but Symmetra's alt fire. What's your point?
Why does Rein need to charge your turret when he can just walk up to it with a shield and shit on it? Or simply pull it's aggro and have one of his team mates drop it instantly from behind the safety of cover. Placing another turret? What does that have to do with anything?
Sniper wars are completely within the realm of discussion when one of them is a mid ranged focused hero that fires projectiles and the other is an unlimited ranged sniper with hitscan
Regardless of playstyle, Zenyatta can still get taken out by a nasty fart. Needs hp buff
>>342451005
He didn't mention Zarya either, because she's broken too right? Retard.
>D.Va
Outdps her before she does. If you defeat her mekka and think you can't win the second fight just get out of there nigga.
Counters: mid/long range medium/high dps
Strong against: Reinhardt, Winston, Zarya on cooldown, Genji up close.
>Mei
Don't get close to her unless it's dps safe. If she somehow manages to ambush you just admit defeat. Some heroes
can outdps her freeze. Also don't forget she can still pull out decent damage mid range.
Counters: Reaper, McCree, Pharah, mid/long range very high dps.
Strong against: Winston, Lucio.
>Genji
Assuming the guy is skilled then you've got a fight there. It's up to who has better aim. Nevertheless, never let a Genji get
close to you, as he can pull out great burst with triple shuriken->melee->dash combo.
Counters: Winston, Zarya, McCree, long range.
Strong against: unaware players.
>Winston
Same strategy as D.Va, except most times it'll be a battle to death. Deal damage before he gets close, so you have the
upper hand.
Counters: D.Va, Mei, Reaper, prep time Bastion, Roadhog.
Strong against: Lucio, Mercy, Widow, pub Zen.
>Junkrat
Abuse the inevitable lack of awareness from the player. Never get to close or he can nade+c4 combo you. Never forget
that there'll be a bear trap somewhere. Have some awareness.
Counters: Pharah, 76, Snipers.
Strong against: Torb, crowded places.
>Lucio
Most Lucios will focus on staying alive rather than attacking. However, if you happen to have a duel with a Lucio, just outdps
him or you'll find yourself in a long battle.
Counters: Reaper, Mei, Winston, Junkrat if on low ground, Rein, Symm, McCree.
Strong against: players close to a pit.
Ain't even doing the rest, OP is a fag.
>>342450539
to be fair, 3+ torbs is pretty rough on any platform if they place their turrets in the most optimal postions
>>342451140
>Mercy's ult desperately needs to be nerfed
that's practically the only reason she is useful. if you nerf her ult, no reason to pick her over lucio or even zen.
>>342451404
They can make other areas of her better if they want, but that ult is currently a fucking mess
>>342447235
Meh, i think every character is viable but I encounter quite a lot of Hanzos with aimbots.
Infuriating.
>>342451140
Mercy is only useful for her res. You fuckers need to learn to kill mercy before you wipe the rest and not the other way around. Its not like the fucking stream of healing doesnt give her position away or something you idiots.
>>342450539
I play the game on consoles and yes, 3+ Torb shuts down 90% of the attacking teams. It is a joke how fast the turret locks on people with a slow controller. I play the game since release and still barely could manage to destroy a turret with any health left.
Yeah I'm probably shit but other people get absolutely destroyed by a couple of Torbs as well.
>>342451367
Junkrat is also seriously weak to Tracer. The grenades can never pin her down, and you basically have to prep in advance with a trap.
I honestly don't know how to deal with any Pharah that knows how to play.
>>342452336
Widowmaker hanzo and hog are hard counters.
>>342452336
mccree and 76 can melt her
>>342451339
These are for 1v1. Which isn't balanced since this is a team game. IF Rein is walking up to your turret with a shield, you shoot him.
If you want to argue team tactics, we will be here all night. Which is why I tried to stay in dueling territory.
>>342447235
>PSA: Strategies to counter any Overwatch character
>play a better game
>/thread
this is why tf2 is infinitely better
anything can literally counter anything
>>342452336
This.
>>342452458
76 works pretty well too. Hitscan shreds her ass and his heal station lets him take a few rocket hits
>Not-Spy hero for removing dorf when?
>>342452814
but scout counters literally all classes in tf2
>>342452721
No different for a 1v1, you waltz up to his turret and smack it with a fuckin hammer. Same for the midget. You can take a good amount of damage from a torb turret on ult with a shield up. 200 some odd dps doesn't hit a shield all that hard. Just accurate as fuck so it murders squishies
>>342453009
exactly
How do you counter more than one torbjorn?
One by themselves are insufferable, but two or more are ridiculous.
>>342453079
nothing can counter a good scout my friend
>>342448346
>genji
>mcree
www
t.
genji player
>>342453229
what about another good scout
Guys, I need your help.
5 Torbjorns, 1 D.VA on Temple of Abub-ass
They are spread out and my team is idiots
>>342453436
You want to defeat the enemy team on your own?
The best thing you can do is get phara and destroy them one by one.
>>342449632
This. Since 76 is such a vanilla character with easy to use weapons and features, it's very easy to be a counter to any class that's not Widowmaker or Tracer. Play 76 like Scout but with more of a mid range focus.
>>342453436
4-5 winstons and the rest Lucio
>>342453214
What the fuck people? JUNKRAT!
>>342448948
Calm down, junior.
>>342453436
junkrats and dva's
>>342449359
>76s Biotic field outheals Winstons tickle gun
It sucked finding that one out
>>342453436
On your own, your only option is to D.Va and ult all the turrets down if possible.
>>342453313
well. yea.
>>342453693
torb sets up another turret almost instantly.
>>342451005
>widowmaker
>broken
yeah, broken spine, c'mere you frog, time for hot monkey dick
>>342448907
>And they need to buff D.va already
I think if she were just able to fire her weapon while Defense Matrix was up, she'd have a great deal extra staying power when she charges in without necessarily making her any stronger (and since she'd be able to attack with Matrix up, the big headshot box of hers could stay).
It would further enforce her hit and run flanker style in the same way Winston is all about Jump in > Barrier > monkey business > Jump away.
And speaking of buffing, Zenyatta is already a worse Support than both Lucio and Mercy in nearly every regard, he doesn't really have any situational advantages on some maps in the way Symmetra does, and Discord/Harmony aren't enough to make him a formidable asset when each only tags one person at a time (and Discord doesn't display itself on the HUD to allies which would serve as a really nice focus attack indicator).
I think Zenyatta's Discord orb should be a passive effect applied to any enemy he hits with his primary attack, making them take extra damage for a few seconds.
With his E key free, give him a mobility option to let him have better means of escaping from danger and getting around in general.
And do something about his Orb Volley, it's really not worth using over just shooting one at a time.
>>342449339
>>342449374
>Mei chills Reaper a bit
>Reaper presses Shift and ghosts away
>Mei can still just about keep up with his faster ghost speed, even using the Wall to trap him, continues freezing
>Reaper may get some hits in
>Mei uses her own Shift, can break out when she wants
>>342450042
Mei's most powerful tool isn't in just slowing down their movement, ensuring they can't escape without a mobility ability, it also slows the victim's aiming speed. Even a single tick of frost and your judgement of how much you have to move your mouse is going to be fucked with while any Mei runs and jumps in circles around you to exploit that.
>>342448346
As a Symmetra player I'd like to say that Pharah's put a real stranglehold on my style of play since they don't adhere to the "tower defense mode" I set up. Winston and Dva are also in this category and they fuck up my turrets with ease. I can actually kill Genji's, Mei's, and Roadhogs quite easily. It's all a matter of predicting movements and setting turrets in blind spots.
>>342456127
>she grappling hooks away
>if you try and go after her, her team eats you alive
There's literally nothing you can do to counter Roadhog in a 1v1 situation assuming he plays perfectly
PROVE ME WRONG YOU CAN'T
>>342448346
>Bastion
A sneaky Pharrah fucks him up the hardest, especially since he'll usually have his attention on the chokepoint you can fly around.
>>342457504
Don't play symmetra on offense you scrub you'll only pull your team down.
>>342457660
Reaper playing perfectly would counter roadhog still. Whats funny is that because of the tickrate or lag in general if you get hooked theres a 50/50 chance you can simply shift away and live to just slap his shit. The rate that this happens feels a lot higher than 50% i should say. Just spam that shift
>>342448346
I would argue mei counters genji too as if he cant get away its easy to 1 headshot him after freezing him.
>>342447235
This is modern day video gaming, it's easier to cry OP and demand nerfs then to actually get gud and counter said problem. Look at Bastion and how that was a problem for as long as it was when Bastion is the most easily countered character in the game.
>no one on your team ever fights near the point
>no one on your team can actually hit anything
>>342449131
Simply put, Zarya's job is to make you fight her on her terms. If you can, don't engage
>>342456127
That doesn't work
>jump at her
>she jumps away and kills you
It only works if she doesn't know how to use her hook shot
or you walk at her and save your jump while she kills you
>>342457718
You seem to know everything, I will listen without questioning you or your reasoning.
>>342457660
"plays perfectly" is a dumb statement.
A genji can beat any hero if they are "played perfectly"
>>342458349
Good luck. What widow is ever in a place you can get to without using your jump?
>>342447235
What about double Zarya?
>>342448625
Her damage isn't that bad, it's just tricky and you can rely on every 1 in 35 Mercys to try actually using the pistol. The projectiles should move as fast as D.va's pistol imo
>>342448346
>mei gets countered by 76
>genji not getting countered by sym and mei
>mccree gets countered by the character he counters (reaper)
How are you this shit?
>>342457718
>he doesn't play Symmetra on Koth maps
carwash.jpg
>>342458370
To win on offense you need one big push to take the point. Symmetra puts emphasis on poking at the enemy and getting back into the fight quickly. Don't question me again.
>>342458664
No one does. I can honestly say I've never seen it.
>>342450045
Push off on Mei outranges, but the slowdown lasts long enough that she can still close down. Push off is good for buying time to amp up healing to save yourself/teammates.
>>342458349
>losing to widowmaker as winston
Holy fuck how bad are you at the game?
Literally all you've gotta do is W+M1 as WInston after you leap at her. If she hooks away your jump has a faster cooldown.
>triple dva with friends
>charge in together
>alternate shield cds
D.va's best temmates are more D.va
>>342458782
How fucking bad is your MMR if your playing against a widow that's far ahead of her team so when she hookshots shes still no where near them?
>>342459043
>higher MMR = higher skilled opponents
Welp. Opinion discarded.
You obviously don't even play the game.
>>342458461
>pop jump cd to get to her
>widow hooks away
She's either going to lead you to her team or go into a hallway where you can't avoid a charged shot when you pursue. or be fucking bad and die
junkrat counters all tanks
Winston? Spam nades directly at him until shield busts
Reinhardt? Spam nades at floor, chuck a mine above his shield
Zarya? Ignore until shield vanishes, spam nades directly.
all else fails, throw down a mine at your feet and easily escape
>>342459152
:^)
>>342459152
MMR is your skill ranking. That's what it does.
>>342458782
winston is the easiest tank to deal with as a widowmaker
easy panic button anyway just hooking into your teammates
>>342448346
While this list is decently logical, I don't think it's right or wrong. I think it's safe to say that there is no direct counter that'll work every time just because you use certain characters against others.
Because no one plays the same. Everyone approaches situations differently. For example, I main Tracer and I can counter the fuck out of everyone on this list in some way except for Mcree most of the time.
>>342459235
How stupid are the tanks you're facing? Step number one to winning is don't get shot too much and your tips for countering are "shoot my slow ping pong balls directly at their face"
>>342451201
>Selfish as fuck
I see that rip tire coming, you better believe I'm Ice blocking.
>>342448346
Roadhog shits on reapers ult
come to think of it road hog shits on a lot of ults
>>342459497
Rip tire falling from the sky
Gee thanks Mei
>>342459537
That's only fair considering that he helps the other team build those ults so often
>>342453229
Sniper and engineer do, or are you just memeing?
>>342457660
it depends on many things, if he misses hook and you are a mid-range character you win because easy headshots on his e, also reaper rapes tanks and i think he can survive his combo
>>342457718
Symmetra and Torbjorn are both able to be played well on offense. It's all about player skill, my friend.
>>342451367
>counter to junkrat
>hope the player is an idiot
Whew lad.
>faggots who played hanzo and widow on defense pick hanzo and widow on offense
>team loses painfully slow each time
>can't leave the game or I'll get less xp forever
>>342460654
FUCKING THIS. I hate it so much. Especially when there's more than 1 sniper on your offense team. Sniping is primarily useful on DEFENSE. FUCK.
But when the other team has more than one sniper is ok
>>342447235
Fuck.
Off.
Shill.
Nobody cares about your gay & lesbian TF2 rip off. Fuck you an your Battle.net.
Sage.
>>342459043
Jump on widow
Hooks away
Jump on widow again
If she has backup use your sheild
Kill widow
Jump out
Can confirm this works at any and all mmr
>>342460587
Soldier counters junkrat hard, it's great.
>>342461250
sounds legit
>>342461250
>jump twice within 2 seconds
dont see it
>>342448346
Genji actually counter Mcree, not the other way around. You deflect his flashbang, he's dead izi
>>342449676
>Mei - countered by 76? Just no.
shoot her 4 times in the head and use rockets
wowww
>>342449214
>Even aimed directly at the head, he can't kill her before she freezes him provided they both shoot at the same time
reaper headshot does 280 damage, are you retarded and can't see that 280>250
>>342448346
Junkrat's hard counter is Pharah because his grenades don't reach that high and he can't trap her. The only thing he can do is launch a concussion mine in the general area of the floaty bitch and hope it hits something.
Telling people to go 'slow as fuck' Reinhardt against someone who can take down a shield in about 6 shots is frankly dishonest.
>>342459235
Junkrat is a bad counter for Zarya, unless you can predict the exact bounce and speed of your grenades, which you can't. If she shields just before a barrage hits her, you've just given her a free power-up and there's probably a plasma grenade about to blow your face off, so I hope you put a trap somewhere that female Zangief can step in it.
>>342453436
Junkrat. But you're fucked anyway if your team hasn't figured that out yet.
>>342453436
Any combination of Rein, Pharah, Zarya, and Hanzo + a Healer.
>>342450794
>Reinhardt
>Blocking the McCree stun
You DO know that McCree can toss stun over the shield, and still has enough damage to 1-rotate Rein, even after the nerfs, right anon?
Mei kills 76 even through heal, she just needs to react fast.
So should I be going for headshots in this game? I've just been going for bodyshots since they're so much easier. Everyone seems to have varying head sizes and its hard shooting the fucking tinyhead characters.
>>342450936
>> Console players are retarded
>> Mean that in the nicest way possible
I... don't... a compliment or...?
>>342450539
Can you just plug in a mouse and keyboard on consoles and become a god?
can you shoot through a characters body to get headshots? some characters have kinda arched backs so I dont see how you could get headshots from behind them
>>342447235
Honestly this game's pretty balanced, there isn't really any uncounterable character and the majority of characters have their place somewherealthough I've yet to see Winston be effective in a game yet
>>342457492
it slows ur aim speed? didn't notice the multiple times I rekt mei with reaper
ez
>>342447235
>PSA
Are we fucking reddit now?
I hate Mei so fucking much.
>>342453436
Mei walls in front of turrets
Literally git gud. More helpfully: Main the fuck out one character till you know them incredibly well. Then do the same for another. Repeat this till you have a decent base of characters you can play at least at an expert level. Most situations aren't as impossible as is first apparent. Games like this have a lot of hidden nuance in how you can respond to various situations and threats even on the most niche character. There are no real hard counters. Just different methods required that the first obvious method upon playing the character for five minutes.
Yeah, you'll have to put up with being seen as 'that guy' for a while. That absolute cocksucker who plays a X for every situation, but knowing a character that well is way too valuable to pass up for momentary embarrassment. Don't dare tell me you're concerned about your winrate outside ranked either.
Some things about a character can only be properly internalized by playing them a shitload. Eventually you'll have a decent collection of characters you can swap around to clean house with.
>>342448456
>:P
Leave.
>>342447235
>have 4 pharahs, 76 and a lucio
>enemy team calls us noobs when we win
>>342468402
Nice blog
>>342463687
t. low mmr genji main
McCrees will flashbang to your side or at your feet and you can't deflect shit.
'don't shoot the shields' doesn't always work for Zarya. Good ones will throw it up in such a way that fire will hit it, even setting netcode aside nobody has reaction times that fast. Obviously there are lots of retards out there who just fire blindly into them but those have started to get more and more rare over time.
The shields also aren't invincible. 200 damage isn't that much and concentrated fire can bring them down.
The best counter to Zarya at the moment is actually having a persistent Tracer keeping her shields from regenerating. It's hard to kill (a good) Tracer as Zarya by yourself until you're at 80+ energy and have huge AOE death balls.
>>342465062
the thing about junkrat vs zarya is he's one of the only characters that has the burst damage to deal with her in a straight up fight. Reaper can but he has to get in range of the 100 energy fully expanded laser dong.
as Zarya he's a double edged sword, he's free energy but also a great way to just suddenly die out of nowhere. His ult is the same, you can shield it (and kill it if you're charged) but if he knows what he's doing he can bait your shield and explode.
>>342448346
>Winston - His sole purpose is to kill healers or camping defense characters. Focus him, or ignore him.
git gud, I can wipe a team as winston
>>342468026
This guy gets it. I currently rotate 4 heroes on a regular basis depending on the map and game situation, occasionally going something different. Makes me stay usefull and feel I am actually contributing a lot.
And this countring thing is just too general. I have outplayed (and vice versa) my supposedly hard counters, but that only came in after I have built up some map awareness, team awareness (like not risking my life to get a kill and backing off if I can see a teammate will take the fight from there) and general "I know what's happening" vibe. All of that is easier to learn while playing a hero you are already comfortable with.
>skill
>Overwatch
You guys are cute
>>342470235
A team that is being sucked in by Zarya's ulti. Or a team right at the edge of a map. Other than that, this is bullshit. You jump in, throw down the shield and go bananas, your team rushing right after you get the kills you set up. You will not solo a team as Winston.
>>342470453
You're boring already.
>>342470280
The problem behind merely counter picking is you will be playing a character your are utterly mediocre at. What good are you if you can't even exploit the one situation your counterpick is supposedly good at?
Every moron ever that picks Spy to kill Engies then gets vaporized cause they don't know how to act like a member of the enemy team comes to mind, or closes in on the Engie only to realize they don't know how to deal with a single pyro who only started playing two days ago.
Using TF2 as an easily relatable example everyone should be somewhat aware of by now.
Counter picking is a flawed concept.
>>342467534
B/c pharah flys out of it and rockets her ass
>>342450539
>mfw i am that guy on xbox one who goes torbjorn for every game
29 eliminations and 0 deaths every time we are on defense is too satisfying
>>342450539
>Thank god they've seperated the balance between the platforms
They did? What are the differences then? I thought consoles just get patches slower.
