This bitch is legitimately broken, by far the strongest tank and basically unkillable by a decent player.
Fuckin hell.
Wrong
Junkrat exists
That's not: Mei, Roadhog, Reinhardt, Bastion, Winston, or Pharah.
>>342428372
>don't shoot her shields
>don't let her run away
Wow OP she's weak as fuck what a shocker
she's great at what she is, a secondary tank that acts as a support, lowest health of any of the tanks, shit damage output if you ignore shields, no armour.
>>342428637
FUCK Junkrat and his brain dead Ult.
>>342428720
>Dont shoot her
Yeah great strat.
She's the only hero who gets exponentially worse as the other teams gets better. So she's good against shitters.
>>342428989
As opposed to shooting her shields and powering her up? Please use some common sense the next time you play a game. Thank you
>>342428947
just shoot it nigga
>>342428989
>Bastion players
>>342428908
>lowest health of any of the tanks
And yet she's by far the tankiest tank in the game.
>>342428637
>Junkrat spamming corners with his LMB
>Thanks for the 100 charge
>>342428989
Read the entire sentence. Holy shit, dude.
>>342428372
Lana rain
>>342428372
just don't shoot her when her shield is up. Boom easy kill.
I've yet to see an actually good Zarya player.
>>342428637
Theres no way for Junkrat to fight a good Zarya
>>342428372
>ITT: Character I don't like and I'm too stupid to counter against
Literally one of the most retarded characters to shitpost about. Pretty much the same as complaining about tobjorn.
She's an easy kill as Reaper.
I wouldn't know because somehow I've only played against maybe two teams that even picked her and I've been playing since beta.
>>342430421
Only if her shield is on cooldown. I've taken down so many reapers with her because they come in, I pop shield and close range she'll take down a reaper faster than he can take down her shield + health.
>none of the faggots in this thread have played against double Zarya at high mmr
>think they have an opinion on balance in their shitter bracket
kek
>>342428372
>salty fag who still hasn't learned not to shoot her shield
>>342428989
are you fucking retarded?
MAXIMUM CHARGE
>>342430680
>jump zarya
>zarya turns around and shields
>float around like a retard for a few seconds, waiting for the shield to go
>finish her off
There's no reason why a good Reaper can't beat a good Zarya, excluding teammates being retarded.
>>342428372
>She puts her shield up
>Teammates keep shooting her
>>342430226
One of the best players in the game is actually a Zarya mainand she's like 17
>>342428989
>Don't shoot her
>she does like 50 damage to you total
>fucking pulverize her
>shoot her
>do 0 damage because shield
>she turns giant, red and powerful, pulverizing you and probably at least 1 extra teammate with you
take your pick fag
Zarya is pretty hard to play well.
Shes for sure S tier though. Not enough good Zarya players for the community to take notice yet.
>>342431032
Who?
>>342430149
And then she farms charge off her bombs. You literally can't stop her from charging, you can only slow her down.
>Don't forget honesty!
What did she mean by this?
>>342431032
>>342431246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaXsmG4g3Xk&feature=youtu.be&t=4m30s
She made 3 other gooks quit playing because she was cleared of hacking accusations by Blizzard.
>>342431119
At least it's better than when the beta was happening. It isn't a fucking exaggeration to say that there were 20+ threads up back then.
>mfw I played the shit out of her in the beta when no one would touch her
>mfw cumming every game
Felt good, now you fucks know her potential and its not fun anymore. Happens to every multiplayer game I play. I find a really efficient flowchart for killing/winning (be it using a weapon a certain way in a certain place, a certain hero/character, do X in Y gametype, grouping up with 2 friends and doing something, etc) and milk that shit for a week or two, bathing in manchild tears, then someone puts up a youtube video and it everyone and their Aunt Deb uses it.
Every fucking time.
>>342430369
If those people are on console, then complaining about Torbjorn is pretty valid.
>It's a Tracer won't get off your dick match.
I have a new appreciation for how fucking irritating she is.
She is perfect.
>>342428372
It's been like a month sense release and people still don't know that hitting her barriers power her up.
>>342431474
She still isn't being played that much
http://masteroverwatch.com/heroes/pc/global
I consider her more as a support character than a tank honestly, way more of a support than Symmetra.
>>342428372
>basically unkillable by a decent players Good players are usually unkillable regardless of hero. Why do you dumbfucks always think it's hero specific when you can't counter someone?
>>342431490
If you're playing on console, you shouldn't even bother with overwatch
>>342431678
>Winston is third lowest played
What the fuck. Winston is great.
>>342431345
You don't get energy for bombing yourself with m2
>>342431234
>Not enough good Zarya players
Thats because she looks like a dyke and we all know that Overwatch caters to waifufags
>>342428908
>will always regen at least 50% of her health
>200 hp shield that blocks instakills, can put it on allies as well
>retarded dmg if she gets energy, which a good player will get (see pro players)
Armor is overrated, only d.va has the amount to make it noteworthy.
>>342431976
>Lucio is the most popular
I'm calling bullshit
>>342431378
>gooks
>FPS
kekking
>>342431378
What's the counter beneath her reticle?
>>342432081
>d va is the only character with a good amount of armor
>has a fuckhuge critbox so it doesn't matter
Sasuga Blizzard
>>342431830
Well, if Blizzard doesn't feel like balancing the game on all the platforms they chose to release it on, that's on them, not the players for buying it.
>>342432145
Lucio is a great all-rounder and compliments any team well.
He's damn near necessary on Koth maps.
>>342432269
No. It's on you for buying it for console. You bought the product. You could've refunded it.
>>342431378
>71% win rate
I thought you faggots said it was forced 50/50
"Forced 50 isn't real"
lel, who even thinks this
>>342428989
yea that's exactly what you're supposed to do faggot. Are you capable of thinking of strategies outside of hold W+m1?
>>342431570
>Play Torb
>Tracer bullies me the whole match
>>342432259
How much charge she has. The higher it is the higher her DPS is with a max of 100.
>>342428372
>He has trouble with Zarya
Don't shoot her when the shields up idiot
>>342431976
shitters play him like Reinhardt or try to solo team kill.
>>342432145
Get to higher MMR, Lucio is played on both sides a good amount, more than any single DPS is.
>>342432259
Charge %
>>342432342
If you're good enough with a good team you can get very high winrates. Some people have 90% (those play in 6 stacks 100% of the time)
>>342428720
Ha, this reminds me of Riot's advice on how to deal with Jax in League of Legends.
>If you encounter Jax, don't fight him.
>Also, try to run away
It's funny because they both sound like bad defeatist advice on the surface, but in reality that's actually a legitimate strategy to deal with both of them because they thrive on you choosing to fight them on their terms.
>>342431976
He's good but its harder to make an impact with him than other tanks since his kill potential is rather low and counting on randoms is hopeless
>>342432259
Zarya has her energy gun which shoots a continuous beam or grenades. She has two shields, one for herself and one for her teammates. Both shields expire after 2 seconds and take 200 damage. When her shields get damaged, Zarya gains energy. That's the counter under the reticle. The boosted energy means more damage.
She is a monster because she can simultaneously output damage while protecting herself and teammates, negating enemy damage.
>>342432339
That's fucking extreme, all I'm talking about is a console specific nerf to his turrets.
>>342431570
You gay, son?
I've played 51 hours and am Challenger rank. Am I fucked?
>>342428372
She dies in three reaper shots.
One off the bat, second to break her shield, third to finish her off.
>>342432793
There is no rank in quick play you fucking dunce.
And the whole tier ranking is being replaced by 1-100 mmr once ranked does come out.
>>342431570
tfw u do this
>>342432910
>sub 60fps on 720p.
What toaster is this?
>>342432904
Then how the fuck do I know my MMR?
>>342431032
>first month of a game
>spams the aoe blast against people who don't know how to shut down zarya
Top kek
Zarya is legit OP right now. A friend and I often run double Zar on King of the Hill and it is blatantly too good. We alternate using ults so there's almost always one of us with it up, and that is frequently a team wipe, and we E shield each other so when enemies try to wait out the first shield they're greeted with a second as they charge in. Her damage is insane at high charge too, everyone can die to her. She's legit OP but I have NO idea how you would fix her without making her worthless.
>>342433130
You don't, there is no visible MMR for pubs.
You will see your (separate) MMR in Competitive only.
>Get pulled by Zarya's ult and see her entire team revving up their Q keys.
>>342433130
You don't. Quick play is literally just meant to get you into a match with people at a reasonable skill level as fast as possible. It's not a competitive mode.
>>342433130
For quickplay you don't, its hidden so you "don't take the game so seriously."
Which I mean, I do agree since there's going to be actual ranked play. It's just annoying they didn't have it from launch.
>>342433001
Why would I want to make a 1080p webm lad
2 big for 4chan's size limit, shit would look pixelated
>>342433227
Oh. Thanks anon. So the Challenger thing is meaningless?
RANKED
MODE
FUCKING
WHEN
>>342433282
I don't even know what "Challenger" thing you're referring to. If you mean the spiky shit around your hero icon, that's purely for playtime. Nothing else.
>>342428372
FUCK dont tell the masses, they are starting to realize, i see her on almost every game now
>>342428372
>crop out the tits
>color hair black
LITERALLY a man
>>342433327
Hope you have fun facing double healer teams when you struggle to even get 1 player to play a healer on your team.
>>342433327
Sometime next week. Very likely Tuesday next week since Blizz likes that day for patches.
>>342433375
If you open your character sheet it's to the left of games played and hours. Just says "Challenger" with a symbol.
>>342433375
Go to your career profile. It's right next to the wins and hours played. It'll be replaced with the 1-100 rank anyways
>>342433282
Yes its useless. Everyone is challenger because no ranked yet and it will be replaced soon
>>342433501
>>342433527
Oh, I see. Challenger was the beta incarnation of the ranked mode. It went from Challenger at the bottom to Master at the top. Its inactive now since Competitive isn't up yeat.
>>342433448
What? Are you saying that a woman literally cannot be muscular? I mean, no, it's not common or anything, but it's possible.
>get destroyed by a character in overwatch
>type "[character] is op" into google
>see results, feel justified
>post your shit opinion on /v/
The shitter cycle
>>342432374
Sometimes I only use M1
>>342433327
It's on PTR and it actually shouldn't ship yet imo, it's got some pretty glaring unfun issues
Games are played in matches. It assembles the teams, and then gives you a map/mode.
KOTH is currently Bo5 (which means you will play some maps twice)
Assault is time based. Attackers get their time taken, then defenders, then attackers, then defenders. Whoever does it fastest wins
Payload is fucked. No time taken into consideration, just getting to points gives you a point. A team could defend for 20 minutes, lose, play attack and win in 5 minutes, but both teams get 3-4 points, so they both win. Then it goes into shitty as fuck sudden death, where the game flips a fucking coin to decide who is attacking and defending on the same map you just played. attackers have 3 minutes + overtime to get to the FIRST POINT. Defenders lose like 80% of sudden deaths, it's shitty as fuck.
>wahhhh mccree and widow
>nerfs
>wahhhh zarya
jesus fuck the lolbabs infesting this game are going to kil it
>>342433701
they LITERALLY use the same face for soldier 76
Man
Remember when everybody complained about Bastion during Launch day/Open Beta
Now everybody is silent about him
>>342431032
>one of the best korean players in the game*
>>342428947
Spread out and shoot it, easiest ult to counter faggot
>>342428372
>A zarya killed me when I was getting my killstreak on noobish players
>>342428372
I fucking love her
>>342431032
>>342431378
>she
the terrorists have literally won
>>342433858
people are getting better the cycle goes bastion > mei > mcree > widowmaker > zarya
>>342433449
that's literally already the case, anon.
Their team: Cloud 9
My team: Jimmy and his friends, fresh out of school
>>342428372
I fucking hate this game sometimes sometimes the other players can ve so stupid why does no one ever push the point? Like ever it's always me a Tracer killing tons of opposing forces averageing like twenty two putting at least three minutes of objective time but still we lose. Honestly is everyone in the game afraid to put their life down to capture the damn point? I lost three games in a row like this and honestly it's irritating it seems rigged. These people cant be that dumb right?
>>342428637
>There are legitimately people who believe Junkrat is in any way difficult to fight
In a straight up fight with any of the offensive classes as long as you keep a medium range Junkrat is dead. Forget offensive, most of the cast can beat him in a straight up fight. His advantage lies solely in corners and baiting traps, which given most maps it's easy to take another route and fight him on better terms.
His ult has an obvious sound and can be destroyed, most good teams can easily tell where it's going to come from and take aim.
If a Junkrat is really giving you trouble, switch to Pharah. While you're in the air you're nigh impossible to hit, it's a direct counter.
Here's another piece of professional advice. If the enemy team has a Junkrat, look at the ground before you run into a room that's likely defended. The most obvious spots are always near doorways, large health packs and tight spaces.
I hope all this can help you from being such a massive shitter.
>>342428947
Mei's ult freezes it, Zarya's ult holds it.
Even without ults it's super easy to counter.
FUCK MEI
REMOVE CHINA
RANKED SHOULD HAVE BANS SO I CAN NEVER SEE THIS ICE COLD BITCH FACE EVER AGAIN
>>342432910
Did this once to a Tracer and she bitched the whole match that I was hacking.
>>342434796
Why not just make a Mongolian hero whos whole purpose is to fuck Mei over?
>>342428947
But all of the other ultimates are really high skill and difficult to use, right?
>>342431032
>Korea
>good at FPS
Unless she is traveling to Europe abd wiping everyone or some shit, she isn't one of the best.
FPS is the white man's genre of dominance
Dont want to make a new thread for this, so ill post it here
Any of you want this?
>>342435352
>Playing other Blizzard games
>>342435185
>White men.
>Better than Koreans in ANY game.
Oh look, he's so cute thinking he's good.
>>342435352
gib pls
>>342435185
only because the koreans are still playing shit cs ripoffs like Sudden Attack. once they hop on the real ones they'll dominate just like they do at everything else.
>>342431570
>be mercy
>healing and buffing everyone
>this fucking tracer bitch hunting me the whole time and killing me
>''hey team can you get this tracer off my back when im healing you and you hear her zipping around?''
>no response
>tracer keeps killing me making me useless to do my role
>end of the game
>lost
>''hey teammate mercy, you suck at healing''
>>342435745
Give me a way to send it
>>342435995
steam: Kicock
>>342435856
>Letting Tracer hurt you.
>Not pulling out your pistol and showing Tracer why she should fear YOU.
You deserve it senpai, a good gun slinging Mercy is a scary thing to deal with.
>>342436242
Might aswell take another class then if i spend 95% not doing my role and are dueling with the enemy tracer all the time.
>>342436040
I dont have a steam account, any other way? Or do you think youre fast enough to get it first?
>>342436402
Takes only 5 seconds bro, pull off them headshots and drop the bitch.
>>342436242
Fucking this.
The amount of fags I've killed because they probably thought "HA HA a mercy free kill" is amazing.
>>342436402
You can't also perform your role while dead.
Don't worry, you can defend yourself and keep doing your job just fine.
PROTIP:your pistol shoots projectiles, so aim in the general direction of their heads for sweet headshots.
>>342436526
Against a shitty tracer that underestimates the mercy pistol sure, but a decent one rewinds before dying and repeats. Even if shes ded shes back in the fight real fast hunting you again if her sole purpose is taking down the healer being a general annoyance while our teammates are just comparing dicksizes to each other and not helping you out.
>>342436417
my battle.net is kicock too so there's that..
>>342436813
>Roadhog coming after me as I am healing our Reinhardt.
>Tries to chain me, I quickly fly to teammate up ahead.
>Pull out pistol and start head shooting his slow ass.
>Keeps trying to one shot me but I am too far away.
>Gets scared and tries to heal.
>Still getting the better of him.
>He tries to run away and dies.
>Get accused of hacking.
>Tell him that Roadhog tears taste like gravy.
>she puts shield up
>stop firing
>count to two
>commence firing
Her biggest threat is shielding allies which is why it's on a long cool down.
Mei is the only character that is legitimately broken, and the biggest reason is because of her fucking heal. All they need to do is make it breakable and then it becomes balanced.
>>342434935
I've kept on top of a Tracer as soldier 76 and got them to start getting pissy. Almost as though it's 'literally' impossible to save your rockets for when you know they're unlikely to dodge them.
On an even more childish response, a different tracer that I beaned with two grenades in the face as Junkrat, saying I was just lucky. Sometimes they just assume that blinking or recalling makes them invincible.
They're still cancerous as fuck though.
>>342435995
i guess i ripped them
Kicock #1671 on battle.net
lordfagbutt@gmail
.com
>>342432342
Solo queue is 50%
If you have 1 or more friends you can get at 70-90% win rate the larger your crew is. Assuming you're decent.
>>342436965
M8 if you are on a team that is not competent you are not gonna win the match no matter what. Switch to Lucio or Sym if she is giving you trouble. Or just to switch to whatever hero you want and don't give a fuck because if your team is that bad you are not gonna win.
>>342428372
it gets harder to charge in high-level play
> tfw you rekt assholes when no one played her.
> tfw everyone plays her now and even knowing how to fight her she makes you rage.
Such a fucking annoying hero and shes in every single game now, i much preferred when everyone whined about her being SJW and never touched her.
I blame that korean chink bitch getting publicity on Kotaku, now all the shitters realize how broken she is.
>>342430626
that is one manly looking chick
roadhog main here.
i like to hook zaryaand then smooch her
>>342432342
How do you force someone to lose if there's no one better to match them against?
>>342433823
Not to disagree, but I think "literally" is going to far.
>>342438043
Make their team shit. That's why people who queue with friends/people will have a higher win rate. Which she does. In the video she's with 2 others.
>people who play torbjorn and symmetra exclusively
Fuck off, this is a fps, not a city builder
>>342438035
I like to shield as soon as I get hooked and then get killed shortly after
>>342436965
This >>342437570 is unfortunately one of the strongest ways to cope with Tracers.
Lucio, while you can't outdamage her, you CAN keep shoving her back where her bullet spam is only mildly threatening so it wastes a lot of time on her end, and wasted time for her is a big deal, because it means stronger foes will eventually turn their focus on her and flatten her. Between pushing and wall-grinding and jumping, you'll generally be a difficult target to kill while still healing the team.
Sym is just a good ol'fashioned Tracer crusher. Between homing primary that can kill her in moments, a secondary that can be used to block doorways around an area which can, and will, slap Tracer down firmly, if not kill her outright if she isn't at full health. That's before you distract and slow her with some well hidden sentries.
>>342434483
This. You can dance around Junkrat pretty god damned handily and eliminate him if you're an offensive hero with some range on you. Getting the full attention of a Tracer or Soldier 70-dicks or McCree is tantamount to suicide.
>>342429975
>Implying
Bastion will melt her and her shield before she can do much, his damage output is enough to justify just laying into her.
>best hero in the game
>retards don't play her because they get triggered by pink hair
>you don't even see it when you're playing as her
>>342431378
>korean voice actor saying Zarya's russian ult line
>Started playing dyke yesterday
>Do ok
>Win rate was a bit too high above 50 so get put into thirteen CONSECUTIVE games where at least one member of the team was retarded
2 genji on attack no tank no healer
widow on offense, garbage at it
>>342438276
>retards pick symmetra when we need a support
SUPPORT MEANS HEALING YOU FUCKING RETARD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>342438642
This, she needs to be reclassified as a defender, she is utterly useless on attack.
How does her shield power up work? I mean, does the damage buff last based on time duration, or number of shots?
>>342431573
I love how you faggots get shitty deviantart stuff and act like that's anything like how the hero looks in game
>>342438642
>"Choose healing yourself you diaper faggot."
>>342432145
Lucio is the best healer in the game.
Mercy's such a shit healer in comparison, no wonder they have to make HEAD ESTABLISHED so broken so people would actually play her
>>342435727
>koreans
>have to go to internet cafes to play their games
kek. whitey wins gook faggot
>>342438782
I love how your mom sucks my penis. :^)
>>342437709
Not if you play smart.
People who are bad with her shield before running in, forgetting they have 200 rechargeable shield to burn through. If you shield while people melt that, the current volley of attacks will all be absorbed by your shield.
Not to mention good support shield placement.
There's a reason why Zarya is used in professional comps.
>>342438782
That's pretty much what she looks like though
>>342438890
Or maybe because Lucio is a nigger.
>>342438754
She gains charge by absorbing damage with her shields. Her energy drains on its own regardless of how much you shoot so you have to be constantly shielding damage to stay powered up.
>>342438642
Symmetra players don't pick Symmetra for you, they're aware she isn't a healer.
>>342438754
Every 4 points of damage gives her 1% of charge, which is also 1% of damage increase. Each shield, (her own and deployed on others) react the same, lasting 2 seconds and absorbing up to 200 damage.
This charge degrades over time, I forget the exact numbers, but it's fast enough that you can't sit and wait on defense without wasting a bunch of it. Firing doesn't drain it either, so it's a good idea to get stuck in and keep fighting, only really pulling back whenever you need to heal.
>>342438642
I guarantee she's doing more than your character is, you go healer.
>>342438942
>Not wanting to go to a cafe to talk to your bros as you all play games together then go out down town to get some drinks and hookers.
>Wanting to stay alone in your run down apartment or your mothers basement to play with people you don't know.
So glad your women have started to only date black men exclusively.
>>342434153
Nice
I love playing her but I'm not good enough to carry with her. Although this is not really a game you can carry due to how heroes are balanced.
>>342439232
I'VE GOT 4 GOLD MEDALS AS JUNKRAT YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
>>342438754
>>342439134
It feels like the charge decays at the rate of 2%/second. I could be wrong though
Is McCree a lot worse now or was he vastly overpowered per-nerf and I was just an incompetent shitter all along?
>>342439232
>I guarantee she's doing more than your character is
Or you could know when to NOT PLAY SYMMETRA.
Such as on an offense payload
>>342438890
>Playing Mercy
>Have to constantly zip around the battlefield and juggle healing and damage boost with no way to defend myself
>Only saving grace is having a revive literally every 30 seconds
>Playing Mercy
>Jump around like a retard and punch people ineffectively
>Helping my team by simply existing in their general vicinity
>Get to meme on people with environment kills
Why bother?
>>342439383
>was he vastly overpowered per-nerf and I was just an incompetent shitter all along?
ding ding ding!
The only thing changed was fan the hammer so you must have just been a HOL UP shitter
Not to mention it's still retardedly powerful.
>>342431378
Korean is such a weird looking language.
>>342439383
McCree is now performing as intended, someone to take out soft targets and highly agile characters.
If need be he can still fuck up a Winston pretty hard.
>>342439383
His FtH still does a formidable amount of damage.
Players now have to learn to headshot with his primary fire. That does ridiculous damage too
>>342439370
>>342439134
It is 2% per second degradation.
>When you're one of the people that get killed in the PoTG
>>342433170
Gee, who'd guess that two people working in tandem with their skills can be really good?
>>342439410
>Dorado Offense
>we have a Symmetra for god knows what
>we lose because it's essentially 5v6 at that point
>5v7 if you include the Mercy player that won't switch to compensate because if you're not assisting team composition then you're actively hindering your team
Of course we lose.
>>342439428
>You have to play hard to be good at one hero. Doing well with them is very rewarding and great benefit to the team.
>The other hero takes no skill and is made so basic that any retard can do it. They also play shit music and are a manlet.
Sounds like typical whites vs blacks to me.
Her bubbles she uses on teammates is what gets me they always come up as soon as i start shooting
>>342439659
>waiting for the day you end up in a joke PoTG webm where you get owned
>>342439807
>>You have to play hard to be good at one hero. Doing well with them is very rewarding and great benefit to the team.
Don't kid yourself. It's piss easy to sit behind and heal people an then press Q every 30 seconds.
>>342439659
>misclick an ult or make a stupid play
>get punished for it
>hope no one sees it
>gets displayed in all it's glory in someones POTG
>>342439410
>>342439789
A good Sym on offense can be godly, but a bad Sym is a hinderence on defense. That said, there are more factors to consider than just one person. Usually when its a one sided stomp, there were more issues with the match, like usually half the team not being terribly helpful.
>>342440121
>Double queue with a friend
>End up with two symmetras
>Hey could you change, or at least one of you
>Do you see our level? We can handle ourselves
>They procede to do fuck all outside of having a teleporter up sometimes
>>342439807
>Unkillable negro of KOTH domination
>Cuckslut revival machine
And when you got Lucio on your team that means you can automatically double the effectiveness of any other support.
>>342439837
As soon as you want to process that you have one of her shields it's gone. I hate that.
>>342440080
>perform an ultimate
>die immediately afterward in an unsatisfying fashion
>PLAY OF THE GAME
>>342440121
I'll never bring Symmetra on Attack because I have no idea of where to place the turrets without being out in the open and getting my shit fucked. I could focus on making a nest around health packs but, fuck, I need that teleporter up. Any Winston or D.Va can rain from the heavens and fuck my shit. And Symmetra is fodder for a sniper. I just firmly believe you're better off choosing a better hero.
It'd be so much more different if Symmetra's range on her primary weapon rivaled that of Mercy only with a longer build up over time to hit that sweet sweet 120 dps but that's living in perfect world.
>>342439983
>Playing Mercy means just standing someone holding left then right click while popping Q.
>The nigger lover doesn't pull out his pistol to land those devastating crit shots during slow healing points.
Shhh Tyrone, your third world education is showing.
>>342440310
To be fair, often times symettra shouldn't be around her team. Killing flankers and what not.
>>342439659
>playing attack on gibralta
>decide to go dva because we don't have a tank
>proceed to stomp the enemy, taking out healers and reins (not sure how on that one) as soon as they show up
>get the cart all the way to the final
>suddenly cart stops going and teammates are nowhere to be found
>proceed to lose after getting the cart all the way to the end with 4 minutes left
>wonder what's going on
>we have two tracers while they have reins and torbs
>POTG was a torb getting 3 kills far apart while being pocketed by a mercy, one of which was me while I was trying to stall overtime because my team was 100 miles way>I got a gold medal for kills as dva
>>342440489
Attack sym is really hard, but possible. Mostly you have to just kinda put turrets ahead of your cart or sprinkled around to act as minor traps.
As for the rest, shes kinda best suited sticking with the rest of the team and kinda just running around killing squishies. Most people tend to underestimate her, so they put priority on killing other targets. Letting you kinda run around moping up.
>>342440619
Except she didn't
>>342440619
When I play Symmetra I try to dedicate myself to shutting down potential lanes/avenues to alleviate flanks. Two/three turrets somewhere around the primary road for the payload and two/three others slapping ass on a potential flanking route.
>>342440606
>Having to stop healing to shoot someone
>Not getting speed boost
Do you actually think they're a better character or are you just a waifushit?
>>342440897
They are better because they are not a nigger.
>>342439807
Both play differently, one doesn't really take more "skill" than the other if you ask me.
I find Lucio to be more versatile though, but I would rather choose Mercy on most attack maps.
>>342441009
So waifushit, got it
>>342440776
>most people tend to underestimate her
In my eyes she'd be little more than a free kill. Especially if I'm a Junkrat, Mei, Reaper, Pharah or Winston. She just...I don't know, man.
>sprint ahead and set up turrets
Yeah, a minor annoyance at best but I can see the potential in this. Set up some turrets at a potential lane and wait for the kills to come in. 4 lasers just about guarantee insta-death to any 200hp hero save for Reaper since he can ghost ride right the fuck up out of there. Or a Tracer that doesn't have her rewind on cooldown. Still, man. S'difficult.
>>342438642
>Someone picks Symmetra for defense
>Doesn't change when they're on the last point
You're a waste of a slot, your ultimate saves a second from actually running to the point from spawn. Your turrets won't do shit against a team push.
Literally anyone else would be more of a help.
>arguing over Lucio and Mercy
>they don't switch depending on the situation
>>342441112
>I literally love to watch my gf get fucked by niggers while I stand in the closet with my chastity belt on.
>>342428372
>tfw still no artic skin
>>342431378
>It's another tranny
Topo kek
>>342441026
I know dude I am just baiting >>342441112 hard because boredom.
>>342441242
boring, honestly.
>>342441332
>but I was only PRETENDING to be retarded
>>342441205
Symmetra still has viability on Point B. But depending on how quickly we lost Point A there's an 95% I'll switch immediately because whatever the fuck I was doing clearly wasn't making too big of contribution and we need to go hard on the other team's push.
>>342441242
Well I'm gay but aside from that sounds pretty good. I've never gotten someone to fuck me in the ass while I have one on though
>>342439428
>Not doing sick wallrides to take out widowmakers and turrets
>Not landing headshots with lucio's weapon
>not helpfully blasting away ulting zens, reapers, etc
>not timing your Q and E to survive many enemy ults like mei's, zarya's and bastions
>not backing up your team with DPS spam constantly
>not juggling between heals and speed boost at opportune times
Lucio has a lot to do if you play him well.
>>342441425
>I am so anally blasted that I am shitting corn cobs.
>>342436526
Who is the artist of this?
>>342441379
>>342441509
The common /v/irgin in his natural habitat everyone.
>>342428989
>i can literally only think 3 words at a time
>>342432342
For about a month after launch you could quit a game and not have it affect your win rate. If someone's boasting 80% or higher, they're a shitter.
70%+ is for competent premades.
>>342439659
>when you're the only player on the team who doesn't get shot by McCree in the PotG and kills him as he's doing his emote since he knows he got it
Man, he was salty about that when I brought it up. We still got stomped, but that sort of made it worthwhile.
>>342441431
Even if the Symmetra is a great player and capable of locking down the other team on point B, they'd still be a bigger contribution switched.
Because it's unlikely they're someone who only knows how to use Symmetra. If they can lock down an area with her, then they can probably do it much better by switching to a different defensive character.
Any hero is viable in any situation if you use them right, doesn't mean you should always pick them.
>>342428372
Just got out of a game
>Zarya at 100 charge (me)
>Roadhog is able to turn around, heal, reload, and kill me
>Hitting him at point blank
>No exterior healer
>Whispers me "get good" after he kills me
I dont get it, was I not holding the mouse button down hard enough? Roadhogs have been my worst fucking nightmare today as any character.
>>342439659
>playing pharah
>reinhardt hammers down 2 of my teammates
>use my own ult to keep him from killing them
>he was the only one in the area
>just sitting here shooting rockets at nothing
>accidentally aim at a wall and hit myself with the rockets a couple times
>soldier 76 comes in and shoots me
>got potg
>>342441671
Look up Marko Raassina (Scrollzoom) on tumblr.
>>342441929
>For about a month after launch
The game hasn't even been out a month
>>342441237
There's times when Mercy is useless but there's no time when Lucio is.
He's like if Soldier 76 was OP.
>>342428947
lol what? his ult is easy as shit to counter, the skill involved with it comes from using it in a way that catches your opponents off guard, like sending it over a wall or cleverly using the sound to trip your opponents up. even torb's turret can take it out, you have to be smart about it or any decent player will destroy it with no effort
>>342442020
>Attack a Roadhog at point blank
>Why did I lose?
>>342442080
Shit, I could have sworn it was the 29th or something. You just gave me a week of my life back, anon.I will squander it on alcoholism.
>>342431378
lmao
nice lg accuracy
koreans so good at fps
lmao
>That moment when brain dead teammates shoot at Zarya's shields
The game should fucking pound people on their heads for shooting the shields, she becomes crazy as fuck when she's 80+ power.
>>342441264
>short hair
>tranny
this website is so detached it's unreal
>>342442020
Nigga you do not want to be hitting Roadhog at point blank.
>>342439520
I like it. Really easy to learn honestly.
>>342441630
Honestly, he's one of the better tanks for squatting the payload and no one seems to know it. I routinely shut down other teams by dancing in the cart and using his push. Additionally, sometimes you'll get bashed into the air by a Junkrat mine and you can ult at the top of it and it feels hell of cinematic since it takes longer to hit.
>>342442218
>Have 100 gun power
>He had to reload to get enough shots to kill me
It wasnt as strong as you think homie
This encounter took like 10 seconds
>>342442498
Then something is wrong here because at 100 power and with all that you said Roadhog should have been dead.
>10 Seconds
You suck at aiming.
>>342442439
getting blasted way up into the air, nearly dead, and coming down with the ult is so satisfying.
>>342442498
>This encounter took like 10 seconds
Unless you have the aim of a blind man he should have died
>>342442757
It really is. The only thing that compared I've found is when Zarya launches her ult and it donks your whole team, but you ulted just in time and then do powered up healing in the ball and no one dies, despite the enemy team all unloading into you.
>>342439268
unless you're a good widowmaker, in which case you can annihilate the enemy team with little to no resistance
I'm starting to leave games when someone picks Genji.
I don't wanna play fucking 5v6.
At least Hanzo can use his braindead ult and maybe clear some space.
>>342442331
I don't recall there even being a tip thingie that explains that Zarya gets more damage as her shields take damage. And I usually at least glance at them.
>get shitstomped by some zarya
>check profile
>342 hours on zarya and only zarya
>73% win/loss
>300K+ damage
>spouting nothing but memes as he goes around killing everyone because dumbass teammates keep shooting his shield
fucking kill me
>>342443316
Genji is okay in the hands of someone with good aim. Pretty similar to Tracer, he's meant to find ways to flank and take down easy targets. As a frontline fighter he's kind of useless.
I was fighting a Genji on Hanamura that was constantly attacking the final point from the side door and getting kills, distracting people and dealing damage. He was hella maneuverable and difficult to chase down as well, even as Lucio.
>>342434153
Good taste
>>342430683
Aren't you a cool person. :)
>>342443112
If you can ult and then hit E you and your team can survive some serious shit. I've survived Zarya's ult, Mei's, Genji's, Hanzo's, and more.
I pretty much exclusively play Lucio and it's gotten to the point where I feel like I'm not being helpful enough if I play anyone else. His DPS is nothing to laugh at either.
>>342443551
>He was hella maneuverable and difficult to chase down as well, even as Lucio.
No one thought to go Torbjorn and put up a turret or two? I know it isn't sporting to fall back on that faggot but one is acceptable.
>>342443812
We had a good Bastion who was turret mode most of the time, shutting down the side door and main door pretty well. Didn't needs a torbs.
>When you're fighting against a Lucio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWOovefpyq4
>>342439263
>not having your friends come over for a lan party
>not going to your friends for a lan party
so glad you have micro dicks
Is there a way to hide exp and levels? I could care less about this shit and I'm tired of seeing double stars in all my games.
>>342443939
Good shit. That's what he's there for.
As D.Va I usually suicide rush Bastion and then hop around like a fairy. If he's distracted then he isn't shooting teammates. I'll take the L.
>>342444028
Jesus fuck. I always feel as if I can never get a bead on Lucio as it is. If I had one going HAM like that I'd just retreat.
>>342444028
I love how the music fades as he gets farther out. I so want this to be a thing.
>>342444028
This is just too fucking good, Lucio's speed boost can be the fucking best
>>342444028
That is fucking great.
Mod to switch Lucio's music to the JSR soundtrack when?
When is Lucio actually getting nerfed anyway. Other than Mercy's Ult there's no reason to ever pick her over Lucio, at all. Lucio's other tools are too versatile for someone who doesn't actually need to be paying attention to heal his team.
>>342444728
Mercy's Ult needs a nerf, it's the only one in the game that can literally undo several other Ults worth of work.
>>342444728
What could you nerf? Give him a bigger hurt box? Curb his heals per second so he isn't healing what damage you're dealing at a distance?
>>342436242
>mfw it's a muselk hanzo and the mercy takes a steaming hot load to the head before even realizing her team is dead
>>>/vg/146344792
>>>/vg/146344792
>>>/vg/146344792
just advertising the general so anons know it exists
it's an exclusive party andyou're invited
>>342434483
>In a straight up fight with any of the offensive classes as long as you keep a medium range Junkrat is dead.
Except you forgot that it's a complete rng-fest if you fight him 1 on 1 since you don't know where he will aim his M1.
Not to mention when he throws a mine or a trap in which case you have to take note of the floor and the bombs flying towards you.
Now i'm not saying Junkrat is OPthough his trap kinda is since it deals 80 damage and traps for 3s
But a much better advice is to kill him immediately before he can direct his attention to you.
>>342444852
Nerf passive healing, buff active.
Makes him need to actually pay attention to what he's doing.
>>342444852
>Curb his heals per second so he isn't healing what damage you're dealing at a distance?
Not him, but this one. Music shouldn't be *that* good at healing.
>>342444842
If you nerf Mercy's Ult too much she is literally useless, there will be no reason at all to ever pick her over Lucio ever in any situation. It's all she has over him, he is better in every other regard by a huge margin.
>>342444852
Reduce his team heal from 30 to 25, reduce his self healing, give a bigger cool down to that bumping skill he has, shit is like 5 seconds. Lucio is almost mandatory on Nepal.
>>342442429
>Skinny Roadhog
Why even draw it.
It's fucking trash.
>>342445234
>>342445209
That's a solid idea.
>>342428712
>Roadhog, Bastion
>Good
Opinion discounted.
>>342445192
>an enemies actions are now rng
>>342444852
Honestly, a radius nerf would be great. He can just heal everyone, all the time. It might make him not the best character in the game.
>>342445209
What if team heals were nerfed, self heals stayed the same and Bump Up The Volume healed more for team?
>>342428712
Bastion overcharges her shield till it breaks and melts her. Go back to sucking cock trash kid.
>>342439561
>someone to take out soft targets and highly agile characters.
>people think this is true.
Most people can now straight up beat McCree in a 1v1.
>>342445965
Acquire aim.
>>342430278
Carbomb her away or use trap.
>>342445965
Maybe in the shithole of MMR where you play.
>>342445192
I don't think you know what RNG means
No part of Junk rat's aim or his general playstyle is dictated by random number generation
If you're trying to say it's complete luck whether he hits you or not, that's an entirely different matter, but an equally weak excuse that exposes your shittiness at the game.
>>342439561
If you mean Tracer and Genji are unstoppable gods whose only flaw is that they have to stop moving to take a point, and thats the ONLY FUCKING TIME they will ever die, then yes the "balance" worked.
>>342445686
>Make Lucio harder to kill
Pls no
>>342445965
McCree still does more than enough damage to kill most of the cast in a simple Flashbang + FtH. He just can't delete Tanks anymore.
>>342446050
Yeah, turns out most characters have abilities to just get around that.
>Be reaper
>Ghost out if touched and oneshot latter.
>Be Tracer
>laugh and recall
>Be 76
>stay away and heal.
>Genji
>reflect or dash
Before you could kill people before they could do anything about it. Now you have to hope they're on cooldowns or you're in trouble.
>>342446134
>Junkrat
>aim
Pick one and only one. Junkrat is literally the most autopilot character in the game.
>>342446193
>>342445965
Acquire skill
Flash + Fan still takes out anyone <250
>>342446261
Post nerf, isn't it faster just to line up a headshot after the flashbang?
>>342444028
Not gonna lie, I'd have nightmares after facing a Lucio like that
>>342446348
>unkrat is literally the most autopilot character in the game.
torbjorn
hanzo
bastion
mei
>>342446350
>Flash + Fan still takes out anyone <250*
*assuming abilities are off cooldowns
>>342444028
>Runs away from the team to harass a sniper for 40 seconds
>Uses ult on himself
>Finally kills her
>Dies
Just play genji or something, you're not doing well
>>342446405
>Post nerf, isn't it faster just to line up a headshot after the flashbang?
Only vs Tracer and Zenyatta since that'll actually straight up kill them.
>>342446301
How are you so shit that you can't kill characters with sub 300 health when you can dump that much damage into them in the duration of the second long stun. If reaper is getting away after you flashbang him you are garbage.
>>342446497
Incorrect.
Actually try landing your shots, they have no horizontal spread you know.
>>342446301
>Be McCree
>Flashbang and FtH Reaper, he's dead
>Be McCree
>Flashbang and FtH Tracer, she's dead
>Be McCree
>Flashbang and FtH 76, he's dead
>Be McCree
>Throw the Flashbang at the ground near Genji and stun him with the AoE effect, then FtH and he's dead
Wow that was hard. McCree is still effective in the same way he was played before he got nerfed i.e. a flanker who kills squishies 1v1. Only difference now is McCree can't shit out 800+ damage in a roll combo and destroy Tanks.
McCree's primary fire still does a lot of damage if you headshot, learn to fucking aim.
>>342428372
no roadhog is the best tank, hands down
youtube.com/watch?v=Nn8Z8XXAx-4
>play competitive
>multiple people keep going Zarya on enemy team
>as an attacking force, they're broken as fuck
>as a defending force, they're broken as fuck
>no one else on the team bothers to match the competition
>three placement matches
>all losses
Jesus christ.
>>342446434
Maybe I worded wrong by saying the "most", but Junkrat takes about one brain cell to play effectively. There is no situation in where Junkrat is a bad pick for any team.
>>342445458
>>342446134
>can't take a joke
spotted the Junkrat mains
>>342446434
While I don't agree with the person you're talking to, Junkrat players aim less and spam more on average than even Hanzo does. Hell, even bastion requires a tiny bit of aiming. Mei and Torb both still require aiming.
>>342446604
Yeah man, that's why I can literally ghost away every time a McCree flashes me around a corner as Reaper. McCree's used to give me problems, now it's easy shit. Same with 76, used to be a problem, now I'm their problem.
>>342446634
Roadhog is literally the worst tank. He just builds ultis nonstop. He's not even particularly good at sponging damage compared to the other tanks.
>>342428372
Don't let her activate her strap on, and wait until she runs out of fist lube.
decrease junk rats grenade damage by 25 but give him 2 extra grenades
>>342446773
Cuz you're a shitter who gets matched against shitters.
>>342446762
Torb doesn't if they just let the sentry do all the work.
Not to mention actually landing grenades instead of spamming them is a lot better, so it's good to aim.
He doesn't even have the bullshit hitboxes that hanzo does
>>342446857
>Cuz you're a shitter who gets matched against shitters.
Or McCree just ain't that good, and is especially not good now.
>>342438532
A smart Zarya can use a half-second of Bastions fire to eat her entire shield for 50 free energy. Just a quick pop-in-pop-out.
>>342446773
Can't really say much if you're playing against shit McCrees man. That's like implying Widowmaker is weak because a couple of shitty players play them. Turns out those McCree "players" were just riding the broken graven train until it was taken away only to realize they can't actually play McCree.
Tell me what the difference is in ambushing someone with McCree pre nerf and post nerf and hitting them with a Flashbang near point blank range and unload Fan the Hammer. Other than tanks mind you.
>>342444028
This is fucking fantastic.
i was playing the other day and got quite spooked. Here's the story.
I was playing my main and favourite character Genje. I were fighting in some small city in Mexico (probably Texas) with my team. I waved to my team and then i run over to the enemies to slice them up (genje slice up very good). Merce and Reinhert started yelling to me "come back", but i guess it is just because they can't kill anyone since they play bad characters with no damage. But as an experienced Genje with multiple badges and twitch streams of experience i told them that got this and dashed away.
As i explored the night with my ninjastars i heard something. I looked back and saw nothing unusual. All i saw was a dead pinata and a car. I didn't think much of it, and continued my hunt for enemies to get some nice kills and carry my team (as usual). I heard the screams of my teammates as they died (again). Then the noise again. The same car were behind me. The car was following me. How? It was empty, and clearly didn't move anymore. I was soon feeling the spooks, however the thought of me getting play of the game, quickly changed my mind.
later that night: I had now gotten 15 eliminations and i was carrying the team. As they kept dying, i was spawnkilling their Phereh. SWOOOSH. there it was again. I looked back, and the car was there - RIGHT BEHIND ME. My team we're fighting just in front of it, and it just kept following them. Following us. The spooks were real this time. Right as that happened, we won the game (thanks to me).
>>342446845
Make them 150 damage on direct hit a
>>342446865
Yeah but thats kinda a shitty Torb honestly if they're just afking while the sentry gets them kills.
And while he doesn't have hanzo's hitboxes, his grenades themselves are AOE and timed. As for aiming, thats kinda true of everyone honestly, but why I also included on average. Lot of Junkrats are just spamming the area to get lucky with their hits.
>>342446350
>>342446497
It still takes out almost every at full health.
It's shocking how few mcskill players I've seen since his damage went from "insanely retarded" to only "overpowered". I had assumed most of his players were shitters but not all of them
>>342446434
Allow me to nitpick
>Torbjorn
need to effectively place turrets so snipers can't destroy it
>Hanzo
Projectile based sniper unlike Hitscanmaker
>Bastion
Have to place himself perfectly to be effective without getting destroyed by snipers or pharah
>Mei
Mei has to get near to even do anything useful
Whereas with Junkrat you literally just lob bombs from a distance.
Also this >>342446762
>>342447049
and take away 2 grenades*
This may just be a dream but holy shit I want there to be aSpace marineskine for Zarya.
>>342446773
>over half you health is gone
>i reload while following your wraith mode
>fan the hammer during your recovery frames
>"Somebody call the undertaker"
>>342435727
>>342435813
Asians have historically been shit at every shooter. Hell, even the Zarya that people are talking about has pretty shit accuracy.
>>342446634
His hook is hitscan, not a projectile.
>>342446986
Not that guy, but point blank nothing really changes. The difference however is at any distance besides pressing up to your opponent, shots will miss, and with the lowered damage, that means you aren't likely to kill someone in a single fan burst now.
>>342435352
My GF bought that but doesn't play Diablo. How do you send them, I assumed they were tied to a blizzard account together.
>>342434483
A good junkrat won't put himself in a position where he is both on his own, and unable to retreat in some form, or put himself in a favorable position. Either by a doorway, or his own mine.
>>342437496
You're probably gone but
>70-90% win rate the larger your crew
literal lmao
If you six stack, you're guaranteed to run into The Scrim Kids from down the lane who'll direct your straight into the Grand LAN Finals /!\ NO FUN ALLOWED /!\ parking garage.
Two or three friends are fine. Any more will lead you to a loss streak.
>mfw 76 counters literally everyone ever if you play him right
>>342428372
The only character I legitimately think is too strong is Torbjorn's turret. 40m is just too much range
>>342428637
I play Zarya a lot and a Junkrat in the enemy team is the easiest way for me to stay at full charge.
>>342444143
>Bunch of fat, sweaty white boys wearing their favorite greasy anime shirts coming to my house to sit their unwiped asses on my chairs and stink up my rooms.
Ew, please no. I vomited a little just from typing that. Also please tell white people to stop coming to Korea, no one wants you hear.
>White men always asking me where is the best spot to get laid in my city.
>Always point them to the gay clubs for filthy foreigners.
>>342431573
Are women with that kind of body even fertile?
>>342446986
Before the nerf, you'd be dead before you could do anything about it, after the nerf, you can use your abilities to escape. Reaper, before, insta dead before they can do anything, after, can ghost off. If they FTH, Tracer can recall out of it before she dies, but can't if they just headshot her with lmb. Genji can reflect before he dies and dash to end up killing McCree or bringing him close to death where before Genji would be done. Mei can ice herself up before she gets killed and heal and no flashbang to worry about now when she pops out.
>>342447106
>need to effectively place turrets so snipers can't destroy it
That's not skill, that's map knowledge only.
>Projectile based sniper
With ludicrously large hitboxes even excluding the head.
I'll give you bastion
Mei is pretty braindead, her needing to be remotely close to someone doesn't make it skillful.
>>342440897
Not him but she's a better character. Both because her ult is stupid strong and single target healing is better in high level play where people focus down targets one at a time. Most teams run both though so this argument is dumb as shit.
>>342439659
>POTG is me spamming Lucio's dance emote on the point before pushing two faggots down
>>342445284
Very little genderbent Roadhog art anon. This is the only other one I have.
>>342447506
In most games (see: less than full 5-6 man) people won't be coordinated enough to do that so it's usually better to play lucio.
>>342447156
You can pick up health/souls while in wraith form, and Reaper wraith is faster than McCree unless you want to waste your roll trying to keep up. And then it's one shot time for McCree if he continues to push up close with no Flashbang to save him.
>>342433823
76 has a visibly more square chin while Zarya's is rounded off. you're an idiot.
>>342447506
>Zenyatta is my most used hero
>30% of my playtime spent on fire
>get Epic's every other game
People need to step up their game, Zenyatta is absolutely great.
>>342439659
>When your PoTG is just launching D.va's Ult and getting a triple kill
Will you be able to choose what type of character you'd like to play when searching for a ranked game? Kind of like LFG in WoW. So you don't have to figure out who's going to be the healer?
>>342447447
>map knowledge
Still much more brain work than shooting from a corner and wait for elims
>With ludicrously large hitboxes even excluding the head.
Hanzo still needs to aim though, his arrows doesn't home in on heads.
>>342447798
Zenyatta brings peace and balance in all our lives.
>>342446604
Reaper Genji and Tracer can all use their evasion before the final shots hit after the nerf.
McCree got dumpstered
>>342447656
reaper can't one shot McCree unless he has his guns jammed down mccrees throat
>>342445321
>Roadhog
>Bad
dude lives up to the one-man apocalypse thing
>>342432910
why doesn't my reticle expand like that? it's set to default.
>>342441332
That image should be zarya and a pharah or something.
>>342447919
I agree. Still want to see him with a smaller crit box with his bow. It's retarded how big it is.
>>342447919
>his arrows doesn't home in on heads.
they don't technically "home in" but you can fire at random as much as junkrat and get easy kills
you have infinite ammo too so there's no stopping
I don't get the complaint about filthferrit only hanging out behind corners spamming grenades. The only junkrats I ever see, are the sort that always seem to appear behind/above us right when an important push starts.
>>342447656
you acting as if reaper is the flash when he uses wraith mode while he is only half a step faster for 3 seconds. besides being far enough away ruins your chance of killing me. Fth is not hard to aim also when you try to aporach (if i miss enough shots of the 2nd fth) i just roll backwards and do it a 3rd time. i would think 810 damage would be enough to kill a reaper if you arent shit
>>342448036
It expands based on charge.
>>342435352
yes
>>342433001
Well, he's playing the game on not low settings and also recording. From my experience, you record at the frame rate you dictate (usually 60 fps). Then it'll occassionally drop between 55-59 and jump back up. These usually only occur at certain instances that others would typically call "graphically intense" periods.
None of this really matters anyways, since any footage can be made into 60 fps with a program like Vegas or even Movie Maker.
>>342431378
her tracking is mediocre, otherwise she's really competent.
>>342447656
The funny thing is if the mcree has good aim he can just head shot the reaper twice and there is literally nothing the reaper can do to stop it
>>342447969
>numbani
>came up against a fucking master of stealth roadhog who always seemed to pop out from a building and pull someone in like those stage canes from the cartoons
>you chase after him and now you're inside a building where his shotgun just shreds you
>whenever you try to find him he's gone
>perfectly angled charge at Zarya as Reinhardt
>unzip my dick as I steer into her ass
>she instantly pops her shield
>ofukofukofuk
>desperately try not to pin her into a wall
>instead we both break railings and fall down
>mfw
>>342437496
I have a 75% win rate and I only play alone with randoms. (and most of my "losses" are from being added to a game that is almost over to the losing side)
>>342447506
This picture needs to either die or get updated because Zenyatta has become a rising star ever since the Widowmaker nerf. People are trying their eyeballs inside out in scrims to use this two-tank system and the other team will simple just go Zenyatta and shread both of them.
Of course, that, in turn, causes one of the tanks to go Winston, which then counters the Zenyatta.
>>342448501
Yeah, but then they have a winston and that is worse than having a zen
>>342448594
The team that had the zen isn't the one that now has winston.
>>342447336
I never complain about nerfs or buffs or anything but torbs turret is way too much bullshit, that much range plus autolock is insane. also
>killing torb turret
>have it down to <50
>he ults from god knows where
>turret kills me
>>342448087
I know, mine isn't expanding when I have charge
>>342448783
I know, I mean switching to winston to counter zen is more detrimental than having a zen
Either way, winston isn't a counter to zen since the winston is fucking assured to die if he tries jumping in on him
>>342447798
It's a combination of no mobility, shitty healing and an ult that's essentially just a worse sound barrier. His only redeeming factor is discord orbs.
>>342447624
That's gonna change in ranked mode. After that he's relegated to the KOTH supporter.
>>342447506
>torbjörn so low on defense
Either they know something I don't or they don't actually know how to use him effectively.
>>342428947
His ult is close to impossible to use effectively without the enemy team being retarded.
The reason I like Zarya? I love cucking Hogs. Every time they go for the grab I'm there with a barrier. Free 50 charge, team mate gets away, and the Hog rages.
>>342448847
Torb's turret is laughably easy to kill
>>342448964
It's called his turret is less effective than a level 2 sentry in TF2
>>342449017
Not if you place it well. (behind your own team where it does supporting fire, preferably high up)
>>342435150
d.va's literally is
>>342448501
>going Zenyatta to counter tanks
That's what Reaper is for.
my brother held the 1st zarya title on some overwatch ranking website for awhile. my brother is also silver in league and csgo. he's also 16 years old
>>342448964
Torb is absolutely fucking useless in comp play. Torb himself isn't the problem because he has one of the better guns out of the cast, but his turret is SHIT and it's extremely easy to coordinate a team to shut the turret down and get free charge off of it while they're at it.
>>342449093
The only way it's even remotely hard to shoot is if you have it on the first hollywood point because it moves.
Just go pharah (or in a fair amount of things soldier, widow, etc.)
>>342449017
The only way for an offense hero to kill a good torb's turret is to out range it and if it's a good torb you won't have a chance to do that.
>>342449059
But if placed well it can be close to impossible to destroy, assuming your team is taking advantage of it.
+ torbjörn himself does high damage
+ great ult
+ just rebuild the turret if it get's destroyed
>>342449208
>The only way for an offense hero to kill a good torb's turret is to out range it and if it's a good torb you won't have a chance to do that.
Unless he's sitting behind it then you can easily kill it with pharah.
Of course there's little to no cooldown on placing a new one so you have to follow through, but still
>>342431378
>that posture
LOL
>>342447106
>only lob bombs from a distance
You play with the worst junkrats in existence m8
>>342435150
Some characters need to actually think about where they use their ult. Characters like Pharah who are literally sitting ducks during their ult need to be careful where and when they use it since she is completely immobile with only 200 health. A shitty Junkrat Ult play can probably still kill someone and you don't die for it. If a Pharah utls badly she dies before even finishing the sentence.
>>342449151
Reaper needs to get close to do damage
Reaper doesn't heal
Reaper doesn't have discord (in an environment where people actually know how to focus down)
Since Zen has a significantly larger "magazine" he can more consistently put out damage.
>>342449208
Here is this thing, you can coordinate to defend a turret that does a whooping 56 damage a second or you could have junkrat make an entire chokepoint unusable
>nerf McCree and Widow
>now Zarya might get nerfed
Nerfbabbies pls go. I swear every hero is going to get nerfed into the ground at least once.
>>342447506
From what I've seen of competitive play, this is how common each guy is.
>ON BOTH TEAMS AT NEARLY ALL TIMES
Mercy
Lucio
>ON ONE TEAM AT ALL TIMES, VERY OFTEN ON BOTH
Reinhardt
Widowmaker
>VERY COMMON
Genji
McCree
Winston
>COMMON
Zarya
Soldier 76
Symmentra
Pharah
Torbjorn
>UNCOMMON
Reaper
Roadhog
Mei
Junkrat
>RARE
D. Va
Bastion
>ONLY USED BY DEFENSE AT THE LAST MINUTE
Tracer
>ALMOST NEVER
Hanzo
>>342449206
I'm still not convinced. I main torb (on defense) and almost every map there are very good choke points where you can place the turret so that you have to be fired by it to shoot it. And then you use your own weapon to add damage. I don't think there is a class in the game that can solo the turret + torb in that instance.
I swear my winrate on defense with randoms is close to 90%, and I almost always get play of the game + votes at the end.
>>342449151
Reaper is bizarrely countered by a Roadhog (if they have one).
Almost every match where the opps had a Reaper and we had a Roadhog I'd always hear:
>DIE! DI- UGH!
>COME HERE
>AAAUGUGHHHH!
That hook is danger.
>>342449475
Reaper also doesn't die to a stiff wind, especially if enemies get close. Zen is only good if hes completely ignored.
>>342449662
A good zen won't be up in the enemy's face. He'll be back behind his team. And how that they've nerfed the stiff wind he has even less to worry about.
>>342430978
This. If you can't figure out how to beat a hero, play the hero and see what tactics you need to avoid
>>342431678
>Those Symmetra ratios
Is it that there's just a strong core of Symmetra players who exclusively play her to the point of mastery or is she just that good?
>>342448964
Every single time an image like that gets posted the console kids come out of the woodwork and look like retards. Newsflash, his turret is fucking shit and gets completely negated by a single Reinhardt, which gets used in almost every game. His gun is nothing special either.
I hate Anubis.
I hate Hanamura.
I just want all control point maps.
>>342435727
koreans are ONLY good at RTS, this is a well-known fact.
>>342449790
>completely negated by a single Reinhardt
I guess if you place the turret like absolute shit and sit there waiting for Rein to slowly walk towards you and do nothing, yeah. Otherwise no not at all.
>>342449750
People think she's weak for some reason. Symmetra is a fucking monster on Defense with proper turret placement and her gun does ludicrous damage once it gets going. Characters like Tracer and Genji just get eaten alive by Symmetra, there is nothing they can do against her other than run.
>>342449557
>there are very good choke points where you can place the turret so that you have to be fired by it to shoot it.
Well no duh you're gonna get hit by it.
Assuming they aren't spamming plinks into where you are before you get there, you hit it once, probably a second time because of rocket firing speed, and then you fire again.
If he's repairing the damage, he's going to lose that fight fairly quickly, if he's not, the sentry is dead and you should try and follow through (in most cases only viable with pharah). This only works if they have a viable sight line that isn't being swarmed by your enemies, but even with bad sight lines you can usually do this (albeit with less health)
He's not meant to hold off teams or be a deterrent like the TF2 engi, he's just supposed to constant DPS when people are busy fighting the rest of your team.
>>342449750
Having a symmetra is like always landing your queen injects in SC2 perfectly for the entire 20 minute game.
She is the only character designed to play the long game. She does nothing big, but she does a million small things all at the same time.
>>342432262
is this a joke
>good armor
>not playing dva as a harasser tank
>>342449790
>Torb's gun
>nothing special
I'd say a Torb who knows how to aim is far more dangerous than his turret is. You can literally two shot 200 health characters with just the primary fire if you land a headshot
>>342432269
If you're dumb enough to buy an FPS on cinsole, while there is a PC version available, you're a dumbass.
Console FPS are fucking shit.
>Fire any projectile at her
>shields up while projectile is mid flight
HURR JUST DONT SHOOT HER U GUYS
>>342449943
>he's just supposed to constant DPS when people are busy fighting the rest of your team.
Of course, which is how I play him. But I stand by him being able to solo any class 1 on 1 as I described. And I don't repair the turret in that instance, I use my weapon.
>>342450014
>You can literally two shot 200 health characters with just the primary fire if you land a headshot
So can a lot of characters, more versatile characters too.
>>342450117
I honestly have more of a problem with Genji's Reflect than Zarya's bubble.
>>342450014
>tfw outsnipe blueberries fairly consistently
>>342449790
>His gun is nothing special either
His gun does 70 damage per shot with 18 rounds ,mcree does 70 with a headshot with only 6 rounds. A good torb wont place his turret in a spot that'll let some reinhardt walk up to it.
>>342450142
1v1 he can take on quite a few classes (mainly pharah since she's his usual counter) with plinking, but not a whole lot.
>>342448425
cheers
>>342450291
Which class can 1v1 him and win in your experience?
>>342449925
She's my support of choice for defense. I'm not too good at turret placement though, but I get my hits in. Except for when I get heavy usage out of my teleporter, no one seems to notice I exist except for the occasional buff request.
Maybe there's an inherent advantage to defense coming into play.
>>342449924
56 damage a second
56, 5 6, 28+28
it literally takes 10+ seconds for it to kill a tank, the target is likely to be shooting anyway
Just fucking play junkrat if you want defense
>>342450184
From his range though? His gun has amazing range on it. Hell it even doubles as a shotgun in close range.
>>342434206
>muslim extremists
>supportive of preferred pronouns
>>342432081
Don't act like 200 health regen is anything special when you can take that much damage in less than a second. Her cooldowns take forever and she has trash damage output, her charge doesn't matter if you stay out of her lmb attack and her mortar is slow as fuck. By your logic Roadhog should be better because he has more health, more damage, and better regen. The only thing that Zarya has that makes her worth a shit is her Q and E, the Q for synergy and the E for support even though the cooldown is too long.
I WANT TO BE IN A SUBMISSIVE LESBIAN RELATIONSHIP WITH ZARYA!
>>342428637
Fuck off shitter, Skillrat is balanced. In all honesty he could use a buff.
>>342428947
Fuck YOU faggot, Junkrat has one of the worst ults in the game.
>>342450206
>mcree does 70 with a headshot
no, he does 70 bodyshot (at close range)
I think torbjorn's damage doesn't fall off as early as mccree's, at the cost of it being a projectile and not hitscan.
realistically torb should probably get a smaller mag, maybe 12 or 10 rounds. 18 is excessive for how strong that thing is, he's probably the best counter-sniper in the game.
Nerf when?
>>342450408
This is why the turret with Tjor is actually secondary. You use it to distract enemies and lay suppressing fire. His main wep is very capable and has high DPS.
+ the ult and his ability to give armor are fantastic
>>342450391
With sentry or without? If you're just flanking solo people you can usually kill people around 200-300 range if they don't have a way to get around it (tracer, mccree, mei).
Mei depends on your range though.
>>342450434
Good luck consistently getting headshots with a non hitscan, low fire rate weapon.
>>342449924
I dunno why you're acting as if this isn't a team based game. Literally anyone standing behind the shield can kill the turret with ease. Even fucking Mercy can do it.
>>342450014
So can Widowmaker, and her gun is Hitscan and can one shot any character with 300 or less health.
>>342450598
With a well place sentry.
>>342450408
>it literally takes 10+ seconds for it to kill a tank, the target is likely to be shooting anyway
>Just fucking play junkrat if you want defense
Or you could learn to play torbjorn you idiot.
He's not meant to demolish a tank, he's supposed to be constant DPS for when they're fighting the rest of your team.
>>342450195
You have to time it at the very end of his deflect, while he's still deflecting on your screen
his deflect will have ended on his screen
its a timing thing, works great though
t. top hanzo
>>342433237
Set up so many POTGs this way. I usually only end up getting POTG if nobody else notices that I've ulted
>>342450686
Well then that really cuts down on flanking routes, but then you'd probably be able to kill most things that aren't a tank if it's pure 1v1.
>>342450647
Well this is getting very situational as always, but you don't place the sentry so that rein can walk towards objective and block it.
You have a team as well. A well placed sentry will take advantage of where your team is and where the enemy is and is going to.
>>342450803
In my experience even tanks in that case. I think there are a lot of people who don't realize that moving + firing as Tjor is more important than placing a sentry and spam fixing it.
So we botching at overwatch? K
>Be holding the point
>All of the team is gathered there
>Hear enemy junkrat " ladies and gentlemen, start your engines!"
>Run the hell away from the point since it's the most likely target for the wheel
>Start yelling at my team mates to get the fuck out of there
>The retards insist on standing next to each other
>Hear wheel get closer
>"Guys for fucks sakes you're all gonna get killed and they'll bum rush after
>They keep just jogging around the point
>Wheel comes kills 5
>The rest of the enemy team rushes
>My D.Va fights in vain
>Get shit pushed in, game goes into overtime we never recover nd they win.
Every
Single
God
Damn
Time
>>342451129
That's the friendly ult sound
>>342450693
>team pushes behind a rein
>turret instantly dead because it's stationary and even the most braindead retard that shoot that
>"but I'll throw down another
>ignoring the fact that a level 1 turret is worthless
>loses all area denial when his ult is down
>requires the enemy team to be bad to get consistent armor packs
>either has to babysit the sentry or roam and hope to not come across one of his many counters
I can go on but torb is literally meant for countering retards at this point since his turret is weak enough to not matter when ult is down but strong enough to warrant being destroyed by the enemy team as soon as they see it
just play junkrat
>It's a 2 Torbjorn, Bastion, Mercy, Reinhardt and Mei on defense episode
WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO
>>342450578
Ever notice that nobody complains about Bastion anymore? Because everyone got better and knows how to counter him.
Why is he so perfect
>Best gun in the game
>Best personality in the game
>Falls with style
>If he ever gets in any confrontation he doesn't like he can STOP ME IF YOU'VE HEARD THIS ONE BEFORE out of there in the blink of an eye
>Vaudeville
>>342451282
play junkrat
>>342451312
>What a bunch of misfits and freaks over here, i love it!
>>342451349
Junkrat doesn't work because I die instantly.
>>342451282
leave
>>342428989
Well here's your problem
>>342451218
>>requires the enemy team to be bad to get consistent armor packs
well that's just flat out wrong
>>loses all area denial when his ult is down
He's not even supposed to be heavy area denial you idiot.
I play junkrat and torb a lot, junkrat more than torb but still.
I don't know your insistence on saying he's awful. Not to mention good luck ever having a team actually fire from behind a rein shield properly, or if it's up from your team attacking it.
He's not the best but you're not going to listen
>>342451349
>the turrets are high up and can only be fired at if you are being fired at
>die
>>342451195
>have played with my vidya bro since launch
>we've both got at least 50 hours clocked in this game so far
>he still doesn't recognize which ult sounds are friendly
it's a silly thing to complain about but cmon bro this ain't hard
>>342451129
>ladies and gentlemen, start your engines!"
Thats the friendly junkrat ult sound
Enemy junkrat is FIRE IN THE HOLE
Friendly ult sounds are much quieter than enemy ults, and have different lines
Enemy --> Friendly
It's High Noon --> Step on up
Justice rains from above --> Rocket barrage incoming
I've got you in my sights --> Tactical Visor activated
>>342449732
Thats why you have flanking characters and sniping chars. It honestly doesn't take much to kill Zen with pretty much anyone.
>>342451129
http://pastebin.com/aucmrYYL
>>342451218
>I can go on but torb is literally meant for countering retards at this point
Most of the people you encounter in quick play are retards.
There's a reason he's top of the roster on MastterOW, people are dumb.
>>342451543
The only flanking character I can immediately think of is Tracer and she'll have a VERY BAD DAY if she gets headshot once.
>>342448205
way to prove you didn't even watch the video you waste of air
>>342451296
Its more that whenever someone bitches about Bastion, the replies tend to be some flavor of "Git gud"
>>342451312
When I play junkrat I become junkrat. I don't know if it's the fact that his design makes the best options always the same sort of crazy shit he'd do (mine jumping behind the enemy and crushing dreams). Or the combination of personality and general dickassishness. I just find myself laughing my ass off when I play him.
>>342451195
>>342451469
I get them mixed up, you get my point anyway.
>>342431378
is that supposed to be impressive?
>>342451628
Dva, Pharah, Tracer, Genji, Reaper
To a lesser extent McCree and Mei. Even Junkrat can flank pretty successfully.
And thats just off the top of my head.
>>342451389
>Remember that time when we stole the crown jewels? All hail King Jamison Fawkes the First! And, uhm, Duke Roadhog? What is your name anyways?
>>342451702
THIS
HE'S SO MUCH FUN
>>342428372
>shit technology
what did she mean by this?
>>342439232
Zarya is literally a better support than Symmetra
>>342451129
>team defending the point
>hammer down, embrace tranquility, start your engines, death from above, diediedie, Ryujin no ken wo kurae!
>lose
Every once in a while when I face a premade team.
>>342451813
Oh, forgot Winston too.
>>342451443
>good luck getting people to shoot from behind reins shield
See, this is why you're being successful with Torb. It's not because he's good, it's because you're playing against retarded shitters.
>>342451452
>junkrat
>can only shoot things in his LOS
Good joke.
>>342447798
Same bro, fucking love him.
>>342448919
Discord orb is all you fucking need.
>>342451901
>mfw putting bubble on someone right before Reinhardt slams them into a wall or Tracer's stuck her bomb on them
it's so satisfying
>>342438617
>Admits he just started a new hero
>WAHHH WHY IS MY TEAM LOSING
>FUCKING BLIZZARD ENFORCED 50/50 I'M NOT GARBAGE RAAAAAAA
>They don't want Zarya to do naked squats over them and have sweat drip off her pink pussy hairs into their mouth
>>342451813
What do you mean even junkrat? Junkrat is fucking great at flanking because he's so damn good at keeping himself safe behind enemy lines. Not just traps and using mines to run away or do damage. But the fact that unlike most of those characters he can be effective without having to commit too much. Just being behind the enemy at any distance is enough because you can so easily keep rein not sure of which way to face his shield.
Proper matchmaking when
Daily/weekly/monthly challenges when
Higher tick rate modes when
More skins when
More Maps when
actual lobbies when
being able to edit characters during intermission when
a good video game fucking when
zarya could be the perfect woman if it wasn't for those tattoos and that hair
Zarya had a rough childhood
>>342451939
Play mercy and press q. There's a reason she's top tier.
>>342431345
>And then she farms charge off her bombs.
Can't do that, retard.
>>342452142
Except I was actually doing good? I'm not the best but I'm certainly contributing more to the 2 genjis who run in and die.
I don't know why you're so upset about this, especially since it was a one-off post from 2 and a half hours ago.
I didn't even mention forced 50, but nice memeing.
>>342452163
Roadhog a cutest.
>>342452243
that literally. LITERALLY just looks like 76
>>342452048
My favorite is Roadhog hooking Reinhardt as he is dashing at someone.
>>342447205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obCexNf6_4g
It's not hitscan, it just has a pretty large hitbox.
>>342451901
Zarya can't keep vision on every flanking route at once. Symmetra also has the unique privilege of having her ult only be used EXACTLY when it's needed.
>>342452162
I don't need this right now, man.
>>342437925
you're a faggot anon
>pick Zenyatta
>go behind Reinhardt
>heal anddiscorb fuckers left and right while you have a huge shield in front of you
I fucking love competent Reinhardt players, it's so fucking satisfying to do.
>>342452395
They all look exactly the fucking same.
>>342452214
Fuck off, her 512 tatto is awesome. And I usually hat tats
>>342452163
>Reinhardt is listed as a Junkrat counter on the official OW wiki
What the fuck
Rein is one of the easiest characters to kill as Trashmouse.
>>342439268
>friend is playing Overwatch
>enter the discord call we usually have, he's showing the game to a few friends in his house(he doesn't know I joined the call)
>try to join on his team, end up on the other team
>my team is getting absolutely fucking wrecked
>start playing as Zarya
>push them back to their spawn and get their payload back to the checkpoint
>friend says to his friends "well sometimes you find a fucking insane asshole that just vaporizes everyone with Zarya, god damn it"
it felt good.
It's funny, when he showed me Overwatch I picked Zarya as a joke because of the tumblr feminist thing, but as soon as I discovered her gimmick I was hooked. I fucking love the barriers.
>>342452478
>tch
nothin personnel kid
>>342452735
is that just a shitty metal gear?
>>342451813
>D.Va
She's a tank with a large critbox and immediately draws the focus-fire of the enemy team (which include the Discord Orb specialty combo w/ a drink)
>Pharah
I've never seen a Pharah flank.
Roam, sure.
Overextend, yeah.
Flank? No.
She's too squishy and her hitbox is too big to do anything besides harass without a pocket Mercy.
>Tracer
One.
>Genji
Two.
>Reaper
Reaper draws the ire of the opposing team nine times out of ten. He's one of the few characters you actively shout the location of over comms. Could he flank? Yeah I guess, since he's got the hell-a-port, but everyone is going to be watching and harassing the shit out of him.
>McCree
Zero mobility. I don't see McCrees flank in anything but QP. In matches, only when he has ult and knows the opposing team gets tunnelvision. McCree's main job is, and will always be, killing flankers. There's no reason to sac him for a possible flank.
>Mei
No.
>Junkrat
Junkrat's sole purpose is to nade spam chokepoints, so I don't know why you'd ever want to send yours to flank.
>>342452843
Yeah she's going to outrun the radius of those rockets.
>>342452456
Would you just prefer if she always shoved you into walls around other people, calling you puny? Always urging you to do one more push-up, or stop complaining about how heavy things are. Introducing you as the father of her future children, etc.
>>342452843
>>342452929
>Fighting against robots
>Doesn't have projectile deflection
>Baboon heart doesn't do anything
>>342452163
Well, its more that Junkrat's ability to flank is generally tied heavily to his ability to bomb jump and his bombs all leave a very obvious trail as to where he is. So he can be found out pretty easily and get caught stuck behind lines, especially if he uses the bomb offensively.
>>342445283
bumping is 12 seconds... big enough that you can't single-handedly heal for a full push if the other team lasts longer than 0.025 seconds
>>342453010
Wow, that was garbage
>>342431976
>>342432512
I main Winston. He's fucking great, he's a tank design to de-stabilize the enemy team and support yours.
>Be attacking at a choke point
>My team battling the enemy defenses
>Use just
His jump to get behind them
>Pop a shield
>Begin electrocuting the motherfuckers
>Force them to turn around and pay attention to me and stop shooting at my team mates
>Give them a chance to break through the distracted defense
>If I can I kill a squishy or two
>Jump back to my team as soon as the shield is about to break
>Join the attack.
Morons use him as an assault tank and then act surprised when they get fucking slaughtered.
Also, I fucking hate it when they misuse with stones ultra and focus on one target only. His ultra is designed to separate the enemy team and create breathing room foe yours to regroup, not so you can try to kill that reaper that's been nagging you the entire match.
He's also great at taking care of snipers.
>>342453258
>with stones
>Overwatch is too expensive
>if I'm gonna buy it, might as well buy it in physical form
>the Origins edition is the only one with retail copies
>and it's much more expensive than the basic edition
>>342453258
>Jump back as soon as shield is about to break
If you're jumping into the enemy team your shield will be down before your jump recharges. Every time. You could probably get away with it against one or two enemies but three at max will take that flimsy pos down damn near instantly
>>342447319
You can kill any hero as any hero if you're good, if that's what you mean
>>342452932
>She's a tank with a large critbox and immediately draws the focus-fire of the enemy team (which include the Discord Orb specialty combo w/ a drink)
Shes a flanking tank with the ability to nullify enemy attacks facing her, and the ability to fly around. Not to mention even if you killed her tank, she still has 100 HP afterwards. She can easily fly around out of bounds as well to flank.
>I've never seen a Pharah flank.
Bad Pharahs then? She can flank very easily, similarly due to Dva. High mobility means she can get in and out fairly easily, and bobbing up and down makes it harder to be hit.
As for Reaper, none of that really makes him less of a flanker. He can get behind enemy lines easily to harass and kill squishies.
McCree has no mobility, but thats why I said to the lesser extent. He just takes flanking routes and side paths, but pretty much anyone else can.
Mei is similar, cept her icewalls can be used as bridges and ways to go straight up too.
Junkrat can still do his job from anywhere on the map honestly, but getting kills is better than just spamming doign nothing.
>>342453438
>>if I'm gonna buy it, might as well buy it in physical form
why
>>342450392
>>342449925
>>342449750
>defense defense defense
She's a beast on offense. her balls are perfect for clearing shit out like turrets or bastions, or just blazing a trail. Her beam does sick fucking damage and will clear out a fucking room in seconds if they don't burst you down fast. Her turrets help you establish safe zones to group up, and her teleporter makes big pushing free. Especially since nobody expects you to slap the tele right outside their spawn, and every spawn has that second or third door that nobody EVER uses.
I use her for offense only, on defense she's just a worse toblerone, but on offense she's fucking vicious.
>>342452545
Well, they're communists, so.
>>342453649
On defense she can be a bit better than Torb for similar reasons you say on offense. You can shut down flanking routes and focus the enemy into one path.
>>342451443
Fucking this. I wouldvw thought that it was obvious when my rein puts up his shield and walks through a choke point.
But no, mcree and widow maker just run oast it and get killed.
Why do I even bother. I should become an shittwr and play assault characters all the time
>>342453636
So I can actually grasp the fact I'd spend $60 on a multiplayer game.
>>342453442
That's why you try to jump to a point they're not paying attention to. You're not gonna jump right in the middle of 2 torbs and a bastion. Besides the jump recharges very quickly.
>>342452275
your post literally says "win rate too high above 50 so the game rigs it"
Legit apologizing though if you weren't bitching about enforced 50/50. Annoyed with these shitters who are mad that it's mathematically impossible for everyone to win more than 50% of the time
>>342449750
Kids and waifu shitters dont like her so actual players that are good play her mostly
>>342454373
I actually don't remember posting that. /owg/'s shitposting must be getting to my head.
I do kind of wish there was a more casual variant of the game. Even when comp comes out I feel like you have to be actually trying at all times. TF2 was a lot more fun if you could just fuck around and not fuck up 5 other people's experiences for it.
>>342454497
Best advice is just to find some friends to play who don't take it so seriously. I've managed to find a group that has good chemistry when playing serious and the next round we'll go 6 Sentry Midgets on attack. If you're on PC and looking for someone to play with I can throw my Bnet tag up too.
>>342454873
That'd work.
Thread's about to die so if you don't get to post it mine is MichaelRein#1621
>>342454985
Added.
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![268px-Pharah-portrait[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/JfGRhhl.png "268px-Pharah-portrait[1]")
