> Never forget E3 2016
>>342314041
Kill yourself memer.
>>342313879
>Someone was autistic enough to combine nintendo shit and OPM shit
yeah Im not surprised
>>342314041
versus what? Nintendo's game that only nintendo fags care about?
Well if you only post one game every year, you're bound to strike eventually.
I have a weird boner
>>342313949
>>342314192
>>342314253
>>342314125
>they're still butthurt about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSagK41RfEM
Is this going to start a trend of having each conference devote a few hours of time to a single game in future E3s?
Like will we see Bethesda next year stream 12 full hours of Fallout 5 or new TES being played by obese neckbeards?
>>342314192
>many gamesites saying that sony won E3
>nintendogaf thinks Nintendo won E3
LOL
>>342314192
>making oc is considered autistic
No wonder /v/ is so shit now
>We don't have any new IPS or games to show at E3 this year, what shall we do?
>Lets show a them a tech demo of Zelda that we already told was gonna be there and people will ape shit
>OMG NINTENDO WON PLEASE FUCK ME MORE, U MAD SONYPONIES
>mfw
One game? And it looks medicore, I don't understand the hype of it, or is just a spammed meme?
>>342313879
>One game
Pokemon Sun & Moon
Pokemon GO
Ever Oasis
Mario Party Star Rush
Yokai Watch 2
Monster Hunter Generations
Dragon Quest 7
Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE
BoxBoxBoy!
Paper Mario Color Splash
Rhythm Heaven Megamix
I guess people ignored Day 2 then.
>>342313879
Nobody won E3.
>games with heavy emphasis on the story are considered movies
>but when Zelda has 3 hours of cutscenes amidst 50 hours of dialogue boxes and text, it's still a game
>>342314771
So basically Zelda
>>342314041
>God of My wifes son
kek
>>342315019
>>342315019
>A game with 94% gameplay isn't a game
>>342315019
the only Zelda game even close to that is Ages.
Skyward Sword had an hour and a half of cutscenes, but the game takes a whole day to beat so...
>All it takes for Nintendrones to suck Nintendo's dick is see link run around a field for 5 hours.
BUT ITS FUN R-RIGHT?
>>342315019
>50 hours of dialogue boxes
...you didn't watch it, did you?
>>342313879
Can nintengaffers fuck off already
>>342314948
Crash did
>>342314753
>We don't have any new IPs
That Oasis game on the 3DS?
>>342315019
>entertainment with gameplay is considered a game
>entertainment without gameplay isn't
its almost like the defining feature of a game is gameplay
>>342314516
get that dogshit off this board anon
>>342314586
They already do that. Half of the shit they show at the conferences has stage demos and live interviews with developers and gaming sites.
Do people seriously think that E3 ends after the first day conferences? Granted, I really liked the Zelda footage but it's nothing new and honestly provides way too much exposure.
>>342314632
>Sites that get paid by Sony vs. one that doesn't
wooow
>>342313879
>one game
>not coming out this year
>nintendo has literally nothing
Wow I'm so jealous I never bought a WiiU guys
>>342314940
>>342314798
>The enormous popularity gap
>mfw Nintendo could have released info on the NX too but they didn't want to completely embarrass the competition.
>>342315164
>>342315180
>>342315227
>>342315394
Gameplay cannot exist if your game is trying to push a cancerously long story or narrative.
>muh 50 hours
I get hundreds of thousands of hours minimum out of online games with no story whatsoever, and thousands of hours out of singleplayer experiences that have no story. 50 means nothing to me.
>>342315831
>Persona 4 isn't good
>MGS4 isn't good
Eat my cum.
Uhhhh
>>342315993
As movies, they're average. They don't really qualify as games with that much story and cinematics.
>>342313879
Most popular game? Sure.
Won? If you wanna call it that fine. But its hardily a win. There was no competition and in all honesty LoZ:BotW was the only game at all that was objectively promising.
But no, keep being a nintendrone. Refuse to accept any faults Nintendo has or acknowledge any mistakes they made in the past few years. Because in my eyes everyone lost E3.
But that's enough blog post.
>>342315831
>trying to push a cancerously long story or narrative.
Again, you didn't watch it did you?
>>342316108
As a retard, you're average. You don't really qualify as a functional human with that much stupidity and retardation.
>>342315831
The story in BotW isn't spoon-fed to you like the recent 3D Zeldas.
Aonuma said you can beat the game without knowing the full story, depending how you play.
>>342316194
I watched Skyward Sword, Twilight Princess, Link Between Worlds, Hyrule Warriors, an Triforce Heroes, all of which pushed more story on me than your average Uncharted game. And I also saw dialogue boxes in the BOTW demo. So I know what to expect.
>b-but you can skip them
Yes, and how will I know how to do that the first time around?
>>342316328
see>>342316361
I've heard that narrative before. but since every single Zelda before it had way too much story, why should I believe that this should be any different?
>>342313879
when will this "won" meme end?
Nobody has won anything. We all lost.
Consoles and video gaming have been trash for decades. You're just used to eating the shit they are forcefeeding you.
>>342316484
>why should I believe that this should be any different?
Because that's the whole point of this game
>>342315831
>mfw weebcucks try to push the "western games are cinematic" meme
>TLOU is the only western game on that list, and only larginally longer than the other two
>following games are more than twice as long
>>342316735
>>342315831
Are you honest to god trying to call Bayo 2 a movie game?
You have no clue what youre talking about. Kojima won e3
>>342316881
>>342313879I like Wind Waker HD's visuals better
I must be the only person that hasn't given a fuck about Zelda since wind waker
>>342313879
i thought e3 was a conference, you can't "win" a conference you tard
>>342316759
Again, that's what they said about Skyward Sword. Marketers say the funniest things. I could also go into the sub-30 FPS gameplay casualized for smaller audiences, or the empty boring overworld, but the story is the biggest problem I have right now. I want a guarantee that it won't even be optional. It'll be completely removed from the game. If they do that, I would gladly give BOTW the benefit of the doubt.
>>342316887
How is it not?
>same gameplay quality as TLOU
>focuses on an epic "narrative" and "pandering" and "fanservice" and voice acting and CGI cutscenes and epic wacky action finishers
>gameplay is just a tool to bring you from one cutscene to the next
If it was truly a game, it wouldn't have 2-3 hours of cinematics. As someone who enjoys GAMEPLAY, I can't tolerate constantly skipping story just to get to the actually interactive sections. It's too much to ask of me.
>>342316980
Yes you are a joke, thanks for agreeing
>>342316980
>someone made this
W O W
O
W
Yup
>>342313879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FofA3c6dYvU
>>342317274
>>342317280
it's not even about that. don't you want to play the best possible games? aren't you tired of hyping games and ending up disappointed?
>>342317269
>>same gameplay quality as TLOU
>>gameplay is just a tool to bring you from one cutscene to the next
>>342317571
Look at the metacritic scores if you don't believe me. Normally game journalists hate games that are too "videogamey". They'd prefer cinematic experiences.
However, Bayonetta AND TLOU share the same glowing praise from places like IGN and Polygon. coincidence?
>>342317503
I'm not a cynical jaded hipster so no, I don't have unrealistic expectations
>>342317503
I'm good
>>342314041
>God of My wifes son
>>342315831
Holy shit are you still trying this? I already argued with you months ago over Metal Gear Solid 3 with this shit.
>>342315557
>>342314771
>Nintendo releases the same game over multiple console generations
>Nintentards will protect this choice for generations to come
>Complain about FPSes always being the same despite anything new added to the series
>Go apeshit over because she has tits, not surprised, probably never held hands with one
>Any third-party game gets poor user reviews on the Nintendrones' console despite it doing well on everything else
>>Nintendrones deny everything
>>>mfw Nintentards will buy 20$ figurines to get a complete gaming package
>>>>mfw people actually defend this because their game has been folded 1000 times
>>342317586
Wii U.... more like... Whoa U....
Whoa....
>>342317686
>Look at the metacritic scores if you don't believe me.
>>342317586
I guess I'm sucking Reggie's dick for being the lesser man
-Shoehey Yoshi-Da
>>342315831
>Bayo 2 has bad gameplay
10/10 good b8 made me bite my keyboard in half.
>shittier combat than Dragon's Dogma but a more realized world and environment interactivity
I really liked the new Zelda but have no interest in a Wii U (especially now that it's DOA) and I'm worried about what NX might offer in order to not suffer the same fate.
>>342317269
> that's what they said about Skyward Sword
Unlike SS, we got hours of unscripted gameplay of the new Zelda. It's not SS 2.0
>console kiddies think any of their shit announced this year was good
>>342315831
>Bayonetta 2
>>342318335
>PC weeb has no games to play or discuss so he shitposts about games he can't play
>>342315637
>nintendo decided to hedge their bets with the NX information so they could do it at their own pace and not get overshadowed by whatever the competition decided to announce
>they didn't even need the NX information to win E3, had nothing to worry about
>if they'd done a full-blown NX show they would have won E3 so hard that the sonyggers instantly suicided
>>342318335
M8 I own a $1400 battleastation but the pc conference was godawful. We had DoWIII shitting the bed with one of the worst framerates I've ever seen, mountain blade with no real news, and tripwire killing KF2's undead shell live onstage with one of the worst balance updates in the history of gaming.
>>342318196
>(especially now that it's DOA)
Anon, that's not how DOA works
You can't be dead on arrival four years after arrival
Anon, you're a retard
I'm so sorry
>>342318704
Not that guy, but the Wii U was definitely DOA
>>342318228
Then you don't remember E3 2010.
Not getting fooled again m8.
>>342318169
>>342318361
Tell me what makes Bayonetta 2 any different from TLOU without opinions. It's gotta be objective fact, AND it has to be something that actually makes it better. All I ever hear is biased opinions.
>>342319368
No fug u have a finnish meme frog instead. It's what you deserve with this lazy as b8
>>342317705
then why are you on 4chan you generic faggot drone
>>342319561
You know, you're free to call it bait all that you want, but it would be nice if you explained why you thought that way at least. Again I point you to this image >>342315831
Now, keep in miind that I've played games with 0 story, not even a single cutscene, and they've lasted me 800 hours minimum. Can any game on there offer the same claim to fame, without relying on excessive narrative and plot and other things that make video games into cheap hollywood movies?
Or did we forget the disastrous E3 that just hapoened, where every other """"""game""""""" was just a series of cutscenes? And you're surprised that I have an aversion to these types of games?
>>342319865
>You're free to call it bait all that you want
I think I'll take you up on that offer.
Seriously this is just getting lazy. I've seen the whole "Disprove my comically retarded idea but NO OPINIONS" method too many times now.
>>342313949
Matthew confirmed it, though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87IbuTN4AL4
>>342320075
>LE FROG MEME xD
Differentfag here but you're making yourself look even more retarded. If the claim was easy to refute then you'd have no problem doing it.
>>342320075
Can you explain why you consider it to be "comically retarded"? For that reason, why is it a retarded viewpoint to not want movies and cinematics in a VIDEO GAME?
I feel like I'm trying to argue on neogaf, what with all the praise cinematic games get here. And for what? Fanservice? Maturity? "Muh artistic vision"? Those things don't matter to me.
>>342314459
Nothing weird about getting a boner from Link, anon.
>>342320402
I see frog images, but the space where your argument is supposed to go? It looks a little empty.
>>342319865
Bayonetta One and Two both play significantly different from TLOU on a mechanical level, not to mention the ranking you get at the end of each chapter and fight encouraging you to replay the levels in order to improve. Bayonetta is gameplay focused with a narrative attached, something which is quite common. The narrative also rarely affects gameplay, with every cutscene-y bit being very easily skippable; this includes "pseudo-cutscenes" where you are free to move about while two characters talk. QTEsin Bayonetta 2, at leastare largely optional or serve as a bonus for beating a boss or hitting it with some critical strike that lets you get an optional QTE in for bonus damage.
The story's also incredibly ridiculous and very clear not meant to be much more than a fun break in-between levels, but that statement may be venturing into opinion territory just a little.
>>342320494
Post stupid things designed to draw people into an argument you have no intention of taking seriously, get frogs.
As an Idort I find it cringy as hell how a lot of Nintendo fans just absolutely lose their shit when they get a new game. I get that Wii U doesn't have multiplays so the new titles are few and far between but you don't have to over hype every single title that comes along. Ssaying you think Zelda is cool is fine. Saying you think Nintendo won E3 by showing off the least games is a whole different matter
>>342314613
>this character in general
please anon be gentle
Post your report cards, boys. You've had a week to fully take in all of the stuff from E3.
>>342320687
>Bayonetta One and Two both play significantly different from TLOU on a mechanical level
This is only true genre-wise, as one is a zombie shooter and the other is a hack and slash. They both require the same level of skill and/or challenge, as they were designed with a console audience in mind. (and I mean no offense, but I've seen runs of Dwarf Fortress that trump both these cinematic titles in difficulty)
>not to mention the ranking you get at the end of each chapter and fight encouraging you to replay the levels in order to improve.
This is nothing more than esports jerking, just like TLOU's online multiplayer. If the game isn't compelling on a first playthrough, why would you want a high score?
>Bayonetta is gameplay focused with a narrative attached, something which is quite common.
The 2 hours of cinematics + 5 hours of voice acting and quick time events would say otherwise.
>The narrative also rarely affects gameplay,
Stopped reading there. Every other moment is a quick time event or a cutscene, and it ruins my immersion in the game. A video game should be free of this taint. Look to inspirational games like Pac man or contra or, again, Dwarf Fortress. Did they need hours of cinematics to produce quality gameplay?
>The story's also incredibly ridiculous
It is ridiculous that it takes up so much time. But it'd be much better if it was reasonable. Maybe 10 minutes of story, 20 if they're pushing it. Maybe an hour if there's like a thousand hours of enjoyment and gameplay. Otherwise, you're wasting my time.
>>342321184
For someone who obsesses over gameplay focused games so much, you sure love to ignore how much gameplay time games have.
>implying nintendo won e3
>when they have one game
>that is doing what all of the last gen games did before it and most likely better
>and with better graphics
>and some with better story
>and most likely deeper mechanics
I think BotW looks cool but let's be fucking reasonable, it's just another open world fuck that is plaguing recent years, people are just going apeshit because it's Zelda, just like they loved Hyrule Warriors despite being yet another DW but with a Zelda reskin.
>>342320687
>>342321304
A movie has almost no game time. If it did, it wouldn't need cinematics.
Look at pic related. Can Bayonetta or Persona or Metal Gear offer me THIS level of replayability, without shoving a single cutscene in my face?
>>342314041
>God of My wifes son
Perfect.
>>342314798
Sonyggers BTFO and on suicide watch.
>>342321464
Maybe not Persona, but Bayonetta and Metal gear can certainly offer the same amount of replayability. But if you're soley focusing on cutscenes and not caring about the gameplay enough to even consider their replay potential, then I don't know how to help you.
>>342321464
Yes, you'll be playing the exact same shit over and over again but that's what you were doing in terraria anyways.
>>342314041
>>342316575
>I have no argument, so I must point at reddit meme
>>342321632
You're asking me to play a game where I have to mute it to avoid the cringeworthy voice acting, and constantly mash the X button just so I don't suffer from the excessive cutscenes, when better games have come out with better gameplay AND didn't rely on cinematic crutches. And after this E3, are you surprised that I've become disgusted with narrative heavy games that rely on violence and sex and story?
>>342321669
Funny thing, because the game didn't invest millions of dollars into CGI graphics or sex appeal or being "mature" with dark gritty violence, the developers were able to churn out 4 years worth of free DLC. Again, can any cinematic game claim that?
>>342313879
anime is shit and you should kill yourself.
>>342322071
>>342322187
>>342322071
You're right. We need less games with context and more games like New Super Mario Bros and Paper Mario Sticker Star.
>>342313879
>500x281
>OPM
>meme font
cant make this shit up
>>342315831
I am willing to bet one billion dollars that the anon I am quoting is actually ACfag.
So am I correct or what?That's a silly question, of course I am.
>>342322396
now hold on. Content wise, there's nothing wrong with New Super Mario. They just kinda ran out of ideas after a few installments, but inserting a bunch of story and cutscenes into it would not have made it any better.
As for sticker star, the problem was the gameplay. The story had nothing majorly wrong with it, other than being cliche and unoriginal. If the gameplay was actually challenging and not reliant on gimmicks or removing vital elements of its respective genre, Sticker Star would've been remembered as a classic. Putting in a bunch of recolored OCs with quirky personalities, while par for the course with Paper Mario games, would not have improved the gameplay.
>>342322071
Incidentally, if a game has boss intro scenes that's just the boss entering and looking intimidating, does that count as a detrimental cutscene?
>>342323156
Does the game need that cutscene? Wouldn't it be better for the boss to enter the arena in a more subtle manner? Like a Contra boss. They pretty much just come in and start attacking you right away.
Of course, it's less of a detriment if the rest of the game is moderate in its use fof cinematics. But waste not, want not.
>>342322071
>"stop liking what I don't like" the post
>>342323391
Not him but videogames have always strived for presentation. They're played on displays and mankind have always strived to put on the best presentation if possible like when you plate food, or dress nicely, and etc. Games are no different.
It sounds to me you should just find a new hobby or just find games that don't do what you don't care for. Simple as that.
Nintendo could of "won" with a NX reveal assuming it won't be a shit console.
I stopped visiting /v/ for six months
You're still getting mad about FUCKING VIDEO GAMES
>>342323556
>Not him but videogames have always strived for presentation.
And look where that got us with this E3.
>watch god of war man press quick time events
>watch uncharted man press quick time events
>you thought you were gonna see final fantasy footage? Haha have some more cinematics
Some "presentation" you got there.
>>342314798
Talking about something doesn't mean talking positively about something.
>>342314041
>God of My wifes son
>>342323831
Like I said, if you don't like those videogames, don't play them, or find ones that accommodate what you want. People care about appearance in all facets of life, whether you agree with that mindset or not, and whether you like it or not.
>>342317686
>Bayonetta 2
>glowing praise
>Polygon
do some research, dipshit, they gave it one of its lowest scores
>>342324023
I don't play them anon. But does that mean I'm not allowed to criticize what I deem to be an issue in the industry?
Imagine if the mods banned all criticism of the PS4 unless you timestamped your own, and then you'd be banned anyway for criticizing it because someone pulls out the "you bought it, so you clearly don't hate it" jargon.
Do you want a world where criticism is censored for the sake of feelings?
>>342324213
I can't even tell what the fuck you want, anon. Are skippable tutorials bad for games too?
>>342313879
>this is what nintendrones actually believe
Dishonored 2, Gravity Rush 2, Nier Automata, and plenty of other games all looked better than Zelda: i fell for the sandbox meme edition
Even Horizon: Zero Dawn looks better than BotW
>>342314041
>Being this mad at Sony because Nintendo will never get a tremendous reaction like this from any game they put out.
http://www.ign.com/videos/2016/06/14/god-of-war-ps4-announcement-trailer-e3-2016
>>342324213
Oh you can criticize, go right ahead. It just seems to me to be a waste of time, that can be better spend doing things you rather enjoy instead. I mean if you don't enjoy something, it probably be better to find something you rather do instead.
>>342313879
Only because everyone got gay boners for twink Link you can strip and dress up.
>>342324335
I want games where the story is less emphasized than the gameplay. If you want SOME story, fine. but let's cut down on the needless hours of it. It should exist as context for the gameplay, nothing more. Just like a game's art design, graphics, music, and atmosphere. These exist solely to make the gameplay better. If you want that, then fine. There's other mediums to go to. Movies, books, radio, music concerts, etc. Games are there for interaction above all else.
>Are skippable tutorials bad for games too?
If your game even needs a tutorial, then there's a clear issue. Look at Megaman X for an example of a game that gave you a tutorial without it being a tutorial.
>>342324509
I'm actually playing a game as we speak. So I'm being productive.
Top Game: Zelda (Dont be salty faggots and admit it is won)
Runner Ups: Horizon & Nier
Literally who gives a shit: Everything else
Unfiltered and Unbiased truth
>>342317252
Nah you're not, the game has been shit since OOT and this looks to continue that trend.
>>342313879
nothing about this game looks that hype and i really dont know why people are going crazy over things that we've seen other games pull off much better.
>>342315831
>I get hundreds of thousands of hours minimum out of online games with no story whatsoever, and thousands of hours out of singleplayer experiences that have no story. 50 means nothing to me.
People like this talk as if their time has no vale. A 6 hour game can be a life changing experience, 500 hours in DOTA 2 can literally be a waste of 500 hours.
>>342324760
I think I finally figured out why your posts annoy me so much.
>>342318228
Not getting fooled by Nintendo again after TP and SS.
Sorry, they overpromise and underdeliver.
>>342324921
>A 6 hour game can be a life changing experience
And if three hours of that is watching cutscenes, then it's an experience for the worse.
>>342324975
Yes, Sequelitis pointed it out well. But if you want an example not from an overrated e-celeb, then I invite you to read this regarding one of my favorite Metroid titles.
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/HugoBille/20120114/90903/The_Invisible_Hand_of_Super_Metroid.php
Behold the act of storytelling done through gameplay.
>>342314771
Real talk though, I'm pretty excited for BoxBoxBoy. I loved the first BoxBoy, so I can't wait to see what new mechanics they add to spice up the puzzles.
>>342315831
All of those games are good except for Other: M. I haven't played The Last of Us yet but I assume it's at least decent.
>>342323451
>"stop having an opinion that isn't mine!": The post
>>342325225
>And if three hours of that is watching cutscenes, then it's an experience for the worse.
It's never 3 hours and that's not necessarily true even if it is.
>>342313949
But it's true. No other conference had anything as good looking as Zelda.
>>342325428
>it's never 3 hours
>what is The Order 1886, Uncharted, TLOU, Gone Home, or Firewatch
Yes, the holy 5 sided polygon of "safe spaces" and "comfy cinematics". Alas, no room for gameplay though.
>>342325537
>he's actually trying to compare the graphics of all things
I'm pretty sure every game shown at the conference was better looking than this pile of ps2 tier geometries.
>>342325593
>what is The Order 1886, Uncharted, TLOU, Gone Home, or Firewatch
What about them?
>>342315831
The cutscenes aren't the problem.
Its trying to turn the gameplay into more cutscenes that is.
MGS 1 is the best example, as whilte it have 2+hours of cutscenes, it offers even more time actually playing, and while you're playing, you're playing a good game that offers you several options to complete the same tasks and rewards you by "breaking the clockwork".
Now when the game go to the "press X to watch the game play all the fun part while letting you only do the boring button mashing" approach, then its cancer.
>>342313949
>>342322296
Sonyggers have to be the most delusional fanbase to ever exist, holy shit.
>>342325636
>reading comprehension
I didn't say graphics, I was talking about the demo as a whole you fucking retard. Where di I mention graphics specifically?
>>342324497
>>342315831
What cut scenes did Persona have?
>>342325640
I was giving examples of games where the story literally overtakes the gameplay in numbers.
>>342325656
Tell me the MGS series hasn't devolved into this, setting guiness world records for "longest cutscene in a video game". That's not something to be proud of.
>>342313879
>console war shitposting
videogames
>>342314798
>>342314940
>Battlefield 1 that high
What the absolute hell? That game looks like fucking garbage.
>>342325805
Any scene where the main characters are talking would qualify.
>>342315019
>idiots like this are going to defend Movie of War and Uncharted
AHAHAHAHAHA
>>342324497
>Nintendo= Guy in blue shorts
>Sony= Guy in black pants
Sony just keeps getting better I feel sorry for Nintendo.
>>342325897
But that's like the entire game.
>>342325679
t. nintendrone in denial of being the outcast of gaming
>>342325818
>I was giving examples of games where the story literally overtakes the gameplay in numbers.
Then you posted blatantly incorrect examples
>>342325758
>looking
pick a better word than that if you're gonna actually try to display an opinion faggot. FFS use best overall expierence.
I do agree though. Seems like the overlaying mechanics surrounding the field will add a ton of fun.
>For us it's all about the games.
>Only one game.
>>342313879
Zelda fans would claim Nintendo won E3 even if the game on display was just a Link to the Past VC re-release. They're not exactly a bunch known for having standards.
Zelda BoW looked painfully ugly, slow and outdated, I wonder if anyone would care if it didn't have the Zelda name to it.
>>342325960
Well then I don't see how it qualifies as a "game" in that capacity.
>>342325970
>Then you posted blatantly incorrect examples
is that true? So the games have little story whatsoever? Because that's quite contrary to any research you could do.
>>342326030
The mere fact that I talked about the game as a whole, and didn't even mention graphics, shows that I wasn't even talking about graphics but about the entire showing.
Are all of you Sony niggers this fucking illiterate?
>>342325818
MGS2 still did it right.
Still need to play MGS3/4/5 to judge the whole series, but people that pick MGS1 as an example of cinematic cancer are not doing it right, as well, its a game so proud of its gameplay, it actually offers a fucking separate CD just to glorify it, while a true cutscene driven drivel like 1886 would offer just a floppy disk of "vr missions".
>>342325818
>I was giving examples of games where the story literally overtakes the gameplay in numbers.
You act like every game now a days has that though. Plenty of games that have the gameplay prioritized over cutscenes still come out. The new Kirby that came out is a recent example.
>>342326067
>if a game has story, then it is all story and absolutely no gameplay
>>342326067
>So the games have little story whatsoever?
The games have stories, so again, the fuck is your point?
>>342326054
Graphically speaking is indeed a shitshow.
But it do offer things that you don't see much or at all in other games, like the physics being an integral part of the game.
If anything, its an open world half life 2,including half life 2 tier graphics.
>>342326067
Because gameplay. The characters talk a lot.
>>342326174
MGS1 still had the cancer by having such a bloated story, but it was subdued, so I usually complain about it less.
>>342326182
Again, you keep forgetting the entire point of this thread, and how everyone declared E3 to be a disaster because every other game shown was a movie. So yes, almost every game that comes out this gen is propagating the hollywood plague in video games.
>The new Kirby that came out is a recent example.
I dislike the new Kirby for being casualized and prioritizing "comfy cuteness" over actual challenge, but I agree. It's one of the few games. However, I want a good game, one that doesn't fall prey to these flaws. And after what companies just tried pushing at their last biggest electronic event, it's insulting to think twhat they're trying to push as interactive entertainment.
>>342326336
They need gameplay to qualify as a game. Pressing a quick time to watch a movie doesn't qualify under that.
>>342313879
Someone was pathetic enough to make this fucking image...
>mfw Nintendo's console will be the weakest shit of the new consoles AGAIN
>Nintendrones will defend this
But muh Zelda
>>342326464
Again, listening to characters talk is not gameplay. It's cinematics.
>>342326393
Nah, every open world game in the past ten years has been busy cramming in a lot of crap that you stop caring about after the first 30 minutes. Zelda's fire shit isn't exactly a game changer in 2016.
You know its sad that Nintendo showed so little that Nintendo fags have to cling onto literally one game and then proceed to create crappy memes with something that's actually successful
>>342326682
But you're clicking X.
>>342315998
>9 million views on God of War
Christ
>>342324497
>tremendous reaction
I'll take your bait autist. If they did have a show like they used to the results would be similar to or greater than this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE2Dc1sx71U
You can keep your boring 4 minute shitty viking music intro
https://youtu.be/vS2UGuk5GDA?t=140
LOL
>>342326673
>sonyggers now just care about console strength
>not when the PS1 was the weakest
>not when the PS2 was the weakest
>not the the PS3 was pretty much the weakest because it was terribly optimized
>but when the PS4 comes out and it's the first sony console to be the strongest
>>342326507
>They need gameplay to qualify as a game.
They do
>>342326785
Not even just that, but Watch Dogs and Battlefield? Jesus Christ, gaming is dead.
>>342326507
>Again, you keep forgetting the entire point of this thread, and how everyone declared E3 to be a disaster because every other game shown was a movie.
There were games shown at E3 that don't perpetuate this so called Hollywood plague. Not every game plays to this cinematic approach.
>I dislike the new Kirby for being casualized and prioritizing "comfy cuteness" over actual challenge, but I agree. It's one of the few games.
Kirby was always a series intended for newcomers. And compared to the older games, Planet Robobot is a harder game in comparison in some ways I argue.
>However, I want a good game, one that doesn't fall prey to these flaws.
Every game ever made is going to have flaws. Pros and cons. Because everyone and everything is naturally flawed. I'm not saying you have to dislike them, but I'm sure whatever games you enjoy also have their own flaws.
>>342324497
Zelda always wins baby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahMRnlWf2P0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXlWthJwFu8
>>342314798
it's like Zelda isn't the most normie game ever
>>342326787
>2:20
What did she mean by this?
>nintendrones doing the same shit sonyggers did with bloodborne without seeing the ironing
>>342327069
It's the song of cuckoldry
>>342326946
>Not every game plays to this cinematic approach.
I understand that, but the problem still needs to be addressed because it's become a major tumor in the industry. Anywhere you look, it's become commonplace. Mighty Number 9, for example? Con Man spent 4 million american pesos on voice acting and graphics and "the story" and yet did he work on the gameplay? Did he work on fixing major game breaking issues? Nah. Let's just give everyone a quirky voice actor and have in-game dialogue while you're trying to platform.
>Every game ever made is going to have flaws
Oh no no no no. I'm not trying to argue that my favorite games are free to flaws. I wish they were, but I acknowledge them as such. All I ask from the industry is to just put out games with effort. If the frame rate drops, fine. If there's an occasional issue at launch, fine. If there's a tiny cutscene here and there, that's cool. Just do it in moderation. Don't throw garbage like Bloodborne at me, where framerate drops and crashes and glitches infest the launch, online is broken and imbalanced, and everything is focused on being dark and gritty and mature.
Reminder that even Pewdiepie said that Zelda is shit
>>342327343
>Listening to Pewdiepie to begin with
Kill yourself underage
>>342327343
>retarded normie retard doesn't like Zelda
How is this a bad thing?
>>342327343
who?
>>342327343
I don't know who that is.
>>342327343
Go back to kindergarten, you retard.
>>342327343
No, he said "He shouldn't still find it awesome, but he does"
The guy likes Studio "Anime for kids" Ghibli. L2read.
>>342313879
> Never forget the pop-ins
>>342314798
Nice 50 autistic men searched Legend of zorlda the ungendered xer. 80,000 times.
>>342318550
>mountain blade with no real news
Did you not see the fucking video faggot?
>>342327541
It's only in beta, mr. senpai. I'm sure they'll fix it.
>>342320713
I like retard pepe
>>342314041
>still trying to push the Sonyponies meme
It's Sonygger, get it right faggot.
>>342327541
>>342327639
This game have some obvious signs that is a rushed port of a more powerful system.
Besides the pop-ins, there are some needlessy low resolution textures, and the explosions use too much particles for the system to handle well.
To not mention 720p/30fps that is not a thing in other nintendo games for the WiiU.
>>342324659
AAWWWOOOOOOO
>>342327639
holy shit the amount of times this board has seen this exact sentenceexcept the senpai thing, that's more recent
it has NEVER foreshadowed ANYTHING good
>>342325853
It's just anti-COD hype.
>>342313949
this is true though.
>>342327639
Nah, I'm pretty sure the game's pretty much done. The best you could hope for is if they add a fade effect to the pop in like in Xenoblade X
>>342317586
this makes me pretty sad but the game looks pretty fun.
Is Todd a hobbit?
>>342313879
>LE ONE PUNCH MAN MEME
>LE NINTENDO WON E3 WITH ONE GAME
I should have known that the One Punch Man fanbase were all Nintentards too.
>>342313879
We know.
>There are people on NeoGA/v/ in denial of OP
Jesus Christ.
>>342329305
>NINTENDO WON E3 WITH ONE GAME
They did. Why did you quote this part?
>>342314632
>many gamesites saying that sony won E3
>>342329979
I think it feels kind of unfair. Zelda only won against the other consoles because the entire competition fell flat on its face. Against PC it lost pretty hard. The PC lineup is looking great.
why do people suck nintendo's dick so much , the game looks like its from 2011 and a blatant child friendly witcher 3 remake. it's not the 90s anymore , no one cares about that fag zelda anymore.
>>342330082
>I think it feels kind of unfair
Life is unfair.
>because the entire competition fell flat on its face
They've been that way for a while now though.
>>342330223
Still, it lost against the PC, so saying Zelda won is a bit of a stretch.
>muh popularity and discussion
Yeah, popularity isn't the best indicator of something "winning". Not if the Ps4 has anything to interject.
>>342325163
>Sorry, they overpromise and underdeliver
Nintendo does a LOT of stupid shit, but that isn't one of them.
>>342330390
>saying Zelda won is a bit of a stretch
How so?
>>342330487
If it won the popularity contest, then sure. But actual quality wise? It gets beaten easily by any game not restricted by DRM.
>metal link the breath of ripoff now with mobile phone graphics
>won anything but appeal to usual autistic sect
kek
>>342314940
>Zelda
2 days of gameplay footage
>Everything else
120 seconds of prerendered cutscenes
maybe that has something to do with it
>>342330547
>If it won the popularity contest, then sure
Are you ok anon?
>>342330576
>trying THIS hard
Jesus Christ, are you a dev for Guerrilla Games?
I feel sorry for you anon.
>>342327219
>>342330585
>anything on PC being pre-rendered
Will there ever be a LoZ/Link thread without gayshit spammed everywhere?
>>342330674
PC was at E3?
>>342330802
>>342330674
Oh he means the Windows 10 games.
Yeah most of those were pre-rendered.
>>342330802
You didn't notice the multiplats and exclusives announced? Games that weren't cinematics like God of War?
>>342330906
Did we watch the same Halo Wars 2 trailer?
>>342330962
Did I mention Halo Wars 2?
>>342330994
>anything on PC being pre-rendered
>anything
>any
>thing
Yes, yes you did.
>>342330994
Yes.
Kirby's been confirmed for Amiibo support
>>342331046
>>342331083
Oh. Just looked it up, apparently it's not an Xbox exclusive like the last one. My mistake.
>>342330585
What about games like Eve: Valkyrie?
One shit man was garbage
>>342331243
What conference? EA? Microsoft?
I must have missed it.
>>342331431
(you)
>>342331451
It was the playstation conference. It's easy to spot because it didn't have a cinematic cutscene in it.
>>342328130
it's because of the large scale of the game you dope of course there will be pop in, bad framerate and low resolution so the ram and gpu don't crash
>>342331558
See, this is my biggest problem. Unless every single area of the game has something interesting in it, then it's a waste of time and money. Look at the original Legend of Zelda,which arguably had the first "open world" of the series. Alot of empty nothing and places that served no purpose but to make the map big. They served no purpose other than to be filler. If this Zelda is gonna turn out to be the same, then it'll be just another case of the devs making the graphics more important than the gameplay.
And I know Monolith Soft is helping develop this title. After the trainwreck that was Xenoblade X, I have even less faith in them.
>hey guys you get cool giant robots!
>lol jk you have to wait 20 hours and listen to cliche anime trash all along the way
>>342331759
IS Xenoblade X really that bad?
I was looking foward to finally buy it after I'm donw with Zenoblade 3DS since I'm loving it, taking it slow though since everything is so fucking huge sometimes it wears me out from doing side quests for grinding
>>342332035
If you liked Xenoblade, then I guess Xeno X would be up your alley, but I couldn't stand either game. Too cinematic for not enough rewarding gameplay.
>>342331508
Really? I can't remember it and I've seen the PS conference 3 times.
>>342331759
>After the trainwreck that was Xenoblade X
Opinion discarded.
>>342331558
Xenoblade looks better in terms of texture resolution etc, and its running on the same system and made by the same team, being a just as big if not bigger Open World game.
I think of E3 like the Olympics. First place surely gives you a lot of points, but if you only have one gold medal, you're not going to get far.
Sony had more games rated up the top than anyone else, so in my eyes, they won.
Then again, I don't really give a shit since I don't have a PS4 but I do actually own a Wii U
>>342332035
Stop engaging the autist
I've seen you fags go through the same song and dance in other threads before
>>342330487
Honestly I didn't see one goddamn game I was interested at this E3, so I guess Zelda wins by default? It's all shit it was just the most talked about shit? Personally the new berserk game has me hyped but there's nothing of it yet so no hope there even, especially since it's a musou. So fuck this industry lmao.
>>342332327
But, I'm not lying, just reached the Fallen Arm area
>>342332737
>Honestly I didn't see one goddamn game I was interested at this E3
So you think you decide who wins E3?
I see.
