Is this the most JUST game in history?
>7 years in development, it's literally the scraps of a DSi game
>Revelead, everyone literally hated it
>petition to be cancelled, thousands sign it
>Damage control by Reggie and fags
>Game is re-revealed again
>everyone hates it
>Nintendo hides the dislike bar
>The game wasn't even at e3
>Most likely will be released quietly and nobody will play it except for a few stupid Nintendrone claiming it's a masterpiece
>three months later it's 20$.
It wasn't 7 years in development the idea was just 7 years old.
>>342280752
Just like the person who thought up of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n79BY89o6U4
It looks alright, they should have had another Metroid game lined up, because that's the only problem.
I dunno, I'm cautiously optimistic but then again I'm not a metroid fan
>>342281151
Looks like a cheap mobile game
oh well, what gives? Metroid hs been dead for a while.
>>342281538
Paper Mario fans are just as salty
Them and F-Zero niggers are salty ass babies
>>342281538
Ironic, considering that Paper Mario fans are probably one of the most salty persons ever.
>>342280040
Have you not been paying attention to MN9 news today?
>>342281329
It's only slowly paced and suffers from sluggish animation.
I know they tried to replicate Prime's controls but I think they should've had more adjustments other than a hover
>>342281963
Sure, the difference is that Con man and friends already got 4 millions in the pocket.
We just have to wait to see the reception of this game.
>>342282084
Why the fuck did I typed only
I meant also
>>342281538
This from the people raising the worldwide sodium coefficient upon seeing Color Splash.
>look up Metroid Prime Hunters sales
>less than 1m
This is why we get this shit
Hunters was great, more of you fags shoulda bought it
>>342282094
What difference? It's about the game not money.
>>342280040
literally the only thing wrong with the game is the "prime" in the title. If it was just announced as a metroid spinoff game nobody would have complained but they bait and switched people with the titlecard
I'll start by admitting that I hated on the game upon reveal.
Now that that's out of the way, I can say from watching various gameplay footage that this game, as a spinoff, looks fun as shit. It got me thinking, why is it okay for Mario to have various spinoffs, that are usually praised i.e. Mario Tennis, Super Mario Strikers, etc., but Metroid is on the don't-touch list? I understand that the series rarely churns out a new maingame release as often as Mario, and that the last cannon game was Other M, but does that mean that lore fags have to jump all over Nintendo because it's not exactly what we were expecting? What exactly were we expecting? Another rehashed Metroid Prime game?
I was one of the lore fags with my "WE WANT SAMUS" picket signs too until I realized that any series can have an oddball game that ends up being really good. My favorite game of all time is RE4, but I was not upset to see the first person "escape the room" demo the RE7 ended up to be. In fact, I like it. It's different.
So why are Metroid fans the most hard-to-please people on Nintendo's neglect list?
>WE WANT A NEW METROID
>release a game just like any other Metroid game
>REHASH
>release something completely new and different
>THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANTED I WANT A GAME LIKE THE METROID I PLAYED AS A KID
>>342283505
I never saw a single Metroid fan cry rehash in my entirely life
It doesn't look totally awful, but it still looks kind of boring. Not something I'd go out of my way to get or at full price.
>>342283567
Browse any SM vs MP shitflinging thread anytime.
>>342282841
>Zero Mission undersold
>Prime Hunters undersold
>Federation Force is going to bomb
Metroid games on handhelds are cursed
WHERE'S THE FUCKING DEMO NINTENDO!?
>>342281151
I think I seen this on the Android Marketplace somewhere
>>342280905
Ohhhhhhh!!!!incredibly shitty burn m8.
>>342282094
Reception wise>This becomes the anti Mighty No. 9
>>342282678
Watching these ball escort sections bore the bejesus out of me.
>>342282094
>Con man and friends already got 4 millions in the pocket.
That was the development funds, you fool.
Inafune's image will likely never recover from this, his career is irreparably damaged. He's going to keep burning what money he has left in a sad attempt at keeping his pitiful excuse for a franchise going. It doesn't get much worse than that.
Next Level and Tanabe will have a shit pile on their hands with FF but they're just wipe themselves off and keep going on other shit and it won't matter much.
>>342280040
>Revelead, everyone literally hated it
>petition to be cancelled, thousands sign it
I would take the whining's of a bunch of butthurt fanboys with a grain of salt. From the way they reacted you would think Nintendo was never going to make a mainline Metroid game again.
>That time Metroid almost went chibi years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RExHUXbFt5E
>>342284719
>That was the development funds
Hahaha, do you honestly think that the 4 million dollars went exclusively to development?
>>342283505
I still think the saddest thing is that this whole disaster will likely convince Nintendo that Metroid spinoffs are a bad idea when the concept of a Metroid spinoff has a lot of potential to be interesting.
This game just came at a time when Metroid fans are incapable of feeling anything except unbridled rage and refuse to accept anything that isn't a traditional Metroid, and had a really poor choice of developer that led to a load of issues that people noticed immediately.
>>342281702
>fzero fans
That's impossible because those don't exist
>>342284608
Sorry Anon I have a feeling that ball shooting is one of those recurring mechanics that the developers try to add a new twist in each level.
>>342283740
Prime 3 also undersold. On the fucking wii.
>>342285036
I know you want to believe the con man image /v/ has been spinning but you don't just have a game in development for 3 years and not spend an ass load of money in process. Not to mention Inafune was clearly counting on this thing being a success.
He's not a scam artist, he's just a shitty businessman.
>>342283740
Nah
>Zero Mission was a remake (we already had the original Metroid)
>Metroid Prime: Hunters was only good for its multiplayer
>Metroid Prime: Federation Force will be shit
Everyone has been waiting for Metroid 5.
>>342281538
Paper mario is on wii u? Dammit
I'm guessing ttyd isnt there
>>342283505
Extremely obvious shill
>>342283876
they won't release a demo because someone will find out how to make an exploit from it
>>342285995
Don't point it out, otherwise my family may starve.
>>342284872
rip
>>342285995
how? Because they're not mad about a spin-off?
>>342285995
>shill
Prepare to see that word a lot in August
>>342286623
It's already everywhere, I don't think that problem can get any worse.
>>342282094
It's going to be more positive than Mighty No. 9
>>342285828
Correction
>Zero Mission was a good remake
>Metroid Prime: Hunters was good for its multiplayer
>Metroid Prime: Federation Force will be good for its multiplayer just like Luigi Mansion 2
stop being so negative, TORtanic ruined any potential of you fags having good out looks on shit now that /b/ completely took over /v/
>>342281151
Like if the game looked fun sure, maybe I'd get it. But that looks painfully slow.
>>342288805
I really don't get why they thought the controls and movement of a game built around exploration would transfer over to what is clearly intended to be a more action focused game.
I actually think this game would look more fun if it were less like Metroid.
>>342288560
That's why Zero Mission and Prime Hunters sold so well right? That's why Fed Force will be a blockbuster on release right?
>>342281151
Who in the fuck would think this was good
Who in the fuck plays a first person shooter on a handheld, a 240p 2006-tier handheld no less
Who in the fuck ever thought this would work, look at how static and slow it is, it legitimately looks like the video is going in slow-mo.
What the FUCK happened to nintendo. First this shit, then mobile pokemon scamfests, then zelda just becomes yet another generic open world with collectibles and points of interests.
>>342288805
Was Prime Hunters this slow?
>>342289757
All Prime games were that slow, no offense.
>>342284719
>Next Level and Tanabe will have a shit pile on their hands with FF but they're just wipe themselves off and keep going on other shit and it won't matter much.
Only Because FF drones have been abused so many times that they now accept this and the norm, and they'll get just as hyped for FFXVI.
>>342289324
I really couldn't give a fuck about how much copies are sold as long as the game is enjoyable. Didn't care for then don;t care for it now, especially when everything today now means Sales=good and Profit = non existant thanks to AAA games and popularity having a chokehold on the market.
>>342280040
what does JUST mean?
jesus underwear smelling tournament?
>>342290019
You should, because traditional metroid got scrapped after they saw the shit sales in the first place.
This has meant 10 years of shit/no metroid for the consumers.
>>342289723
Reply
>>342284809
>I would take the whining's of a bunch of butthurt fanboys with a grain of salt.
I have to disagree. Metroid fans are a small bunch, and the only people who will buy and play Metroid games. If you piss off a group of people that small, ya fucked up.
>>342290235
>10 years
You seem to be implying the Prime series was bad
>>342284809
People getting extremely mad and mobbing nintendo is the reason there may be a retro studios NX metroid announced in a year.
>>342290797
It wasn't bad but it's definitely overrated.
>>342290797
You do realize prime released 14 years ago, prime 2 released 12 years ago, and prime 3 released 9 years ago, yes?
It's not 2002 anymore, senpai
#rare
#basedsamus
#brinstarsucks
>>342290981
Overrated to hell and back, no offense.
Impressions I've read online usually say the game is underwhelming at worst to decent at best
>We probably won't get a sick remix of the space pirate theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOo_mVvbIEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dESx1CQfgyI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXq1YV8yMUc
I just realized that they delayed the game to August in order to add amiibo compatibility
>>342282973
>>342282815
>>342282678
>>342282490
>>342282342
>>342281846
>>342281151
This doesn't look too bad.
Why does /v/ hate this again?
>>342291947
Autism
>>342291947
>first person action game moving two times slower than alucard
>the worst combination of chibi and blocky shit
>doesn't look bad
As the OP said, nintendrones will truly defend anything at this point. This is why nintendo has no idea what games to make these days, because their core audience will eat any piece of shit no matter the quality.
>>342291947
*Why does everyone hate this again?
-Slow pacing in a co-operative shooter
-Uninspired weapons, settings, and score
-In /v/'s case they have no friends to play with
-Aesthetic is just charmless
-Drought
>>342292142
So you dislike the artstyle?
>>342292228
>Uninspired weapons
Aren't the subweapons just Metroid weapons?
>/v/'s case they have no friends to play with
That makes sense. I see.
So being autistic loners this game isn't really for /v/.
>>342292383
The problem with the mechs in particular is how bulky they are and how people fear that they will clutter the corridors during the game.
Their stiff and sluggish animation doesn't help at all.
>>342292703
Is this your Youtube comment? Why did you post it here?
So you don't like games with bulky power armor? Is that the problem?
>>342292843
Nah it's something I just found online.
Guy was downright furious at the game to the point where it was kind of hilarious seeing him rage.
Bulky armor is fine but when you consider four of them in a compacted corridor with their sluggish movement the gameplay might end up feeling like a drag especially since enemies could appear in said corridors.
I could be wrong but it's just one of the reasons that has led people to be wary of the game.
It could be good
>>342291947
>Why does /v/ hate this again?
Because it's not a Metroid game. People want exploration, they want upgrades that let them backtrack to unlock brand new areas and items, they want fun bosses, they just want a good Metroid game. Idiots will say because there's no Samus that it's not a Metroid game, but it could be a Metroid game as long as it had the proper concepts in the same world.
This is a spinoff game that should come out alongside a mainline Metroid game if it was going to come out at all, and it paints an especially bad picture since the last Metroid game we had was Other M which was awful. If this game does awful(Which it will), then they're just going to use it and Other M and "proof" that Metroid isn't a viable IP anymore and shelve it.
>>342293249
>Because it's not a Metroid game
I see. Metroid Prime Pinball was a Metroid game?
>This is a spinoff game that should come out alongside a mainline Metroid game
Why would they release a main series Metroid on the soon to be replaced Wii U and 3DS?
>>342291947
Well, people should dislike it because it looks slow, boring, and shallow
But most dislike it because "not my metroid" and "I literally don't like anything but metroid so these past ten years have been hell"
>>342281151
IT'S SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>342293397
I don't know the webms look like you could get some fun out of the game.
>But most dislike it because "not my metroid"
Ah. That explains it.
>>342293391
>Metroid Prime Pinball was a Metroid game?
Pinball was a spinoff that came out while another mainline Metroid game was being released.
>>342293249
In case you think this Anon is bluffing
http://www.gonintendo.com/stories/236931-fire-emblem-fates-producer-details-how-awakening-saved-the-franch
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/10/chibi-robo_zip_lash_could_possibly_be_the_last_game_in_the_franchise
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/11/miyamoto_puzzled_as_to_why_anyone_would_want_a_new_f_zero
>>342293391
Prime Pinball came out a year after Prime 2
Federation Force is coming out after a drought with people having expectations for a Wii U Metroid installment at that very E3
>>342292383
I dislike the aesthetics, the choice to put a first person game on a tiny screened handheld, and the slow gameplay (it needs to be slow because it's on a system with butchered controls and underpowered in the first place)
It looks really sterile. This is probably also an issue with the tiny screen, to make objects as readable as possible. I hope so, because it honestly looks ugly, visually.
Plus, playing co-op with handhelds is terrible in general. You're all looking at a tiny screen and if you're over the net it's even worse because there is horrible voicechat/chat support so you need to be next to a PC regardless.
I just don't see a place for this game. Why was this made instead of a more efficient 3DS puzzle game, or a more proper first title on the WiiU?
What void does game this fill, exactly? I can't see anything but a more simplified, slowed down, limited version of other games that have already come out.
>>342293580
So it has nothing to do with Federation Force but more with Metroid fans expectations?
>>342280040
looks like it will be fun, sorry im not some fag that needs metal mario to be playable
>>342293475
I'm surprised nobody made a video comparison between Prime 2's, Prime Hunter's, and Federation Force's multiplayer pace
>>342291947
the gameplay looks boring. You must not play many games
>>342291947
MUH SAMUS
>>342293630
>Plus, playing co-op with handhelds is terrible in general
What.
>>342293630
Tanabe decided having the game to be on the 3DS because of NLG's experience on the hardware
Guy also said this game is supposed to bridge the plot to Prime 4 or something
>>342293591
>people having expectations for a Wii U Metroid installment at that very E3
People have that expectation literally every year (except this one, for obvious reasons) because they're fucking stupid.
>>342293740
>You must not play many games
No I've been playing games pretty consistently since the 16-bit era. Why would you think that? Do you need to believe anyone who has a different opinion from you needs to be inexperienced?
>>342293697
The game itself also looks boring, slow, and what we've seen of the non-Nintendo released gameplay shows it's just going to be filled with annoying moments like a boss that can only be hit three times before it retreats and you just have to stand around waiting for it to open up to hit again, enemies that deal no damage, wrangling and escort portions in the missions, the "secrets" are just walls you can blow up on the side if you picked up the right items, and so on.
It doesn't look fun in the slightest, it looks like you're walking tanks that do no damage and take forever to get anywhere.
>>342293992
>The game itself also looks boring
I don't know, the webms ITT look fine.
>what we've seen of the non-Nintendo released gameplay shows
There are Metroid enemies that do no damage though.
>"secrets" are just walls you can blow up on the side if you picked up the right items
Not the first video game to do so.
This seem more like small nitpicks.
>It doesn't look fun in the slightest
That's a shame, I think the webms show something that could be fun.
>no Samus
>no Metroids
>no Ridley
>no Space Pirates
>nothing at all from any Metroid game
>generic mechs shooting balls everywhere
>Metroid name slapped onto it
Gee, I wonder why people are upset. It's like making something called "Final Fantasy" and having absolutely nothing in it that's from Final Fantasylike that shitty movie that nearly bankrupted Square.
I'll say the same thing I said about DmC and Sonic Boom: it looks like an okay generic game, but a very bad Metroid game.
>>342294471
Space Pirates are in the game and Tanabe said Metroids and Samus will appear in one mission
>>342280905
>three months later it's 20$.
It's a Nintendo game.
3 years later and it'll still be full price.
>>342294471
>no Samus
But >>342286448
>>342293391
>Metroid Prime Pinball
You Federation Force apologists need to realize that Prime Pinball came out in a time where Metroid was actually getting games. As of right now Metroid hasn't gotten anything in more than 5 years, and the last thing it got was one of the biggest fuck-ups in vidya history.
>>342294471
But there have been space pirates in like every trailer anon
>>342293850
I'm sure prime 4 will spend 5 seconds on an opening cutscene backstory that bridges them itself, not gonna play a bland game to read 20 lines worth of lore. May as well read up a wiki at this point.
>>342293798
What what? Playing co-op games on handhelds is frustrating due to the lack of good voice chat, buttons for comfortable message macros, or being unable to type on the fly in general.
On top of that, if you are playing local, having everyone look at their own tiny screen is not the most social thing you can do.
>but but MH is good so handheld coop is good
MH is good period. MH on a home system is a more comfortable experience in co-op due to easier communication and better lobbies and loading times, while it may be more convenient on the go, but only when you're playing solo.
This doesn't make sense to you? It makes sense to me, and I despise any co-op game on handheld.
>>342294471
>It's like making something called "Final Fantasy" and having absolutely nothing in it that's from Final Fantasy
Each Final Fantasy has been self-contained though...
>It's like making something called "Final Fantasy" and having absolutely nothing in it that's from Final Fantasy
Spirits Within didn't have Final Fantasy themes? Like the lifeforce [VII]? Alien World migrating to the planet [IV/IX]?
It was a better movie than Advent Children at least.
>>342294642
>apologist
What?
>and the last thing it got was one of the biggest fuck-ups in vidya history
The Metroid amusement park in Nintendo Land was one of the biggest fuck-ups in vidya history? What?
>>342281963
What's sad is that outside of the framerate issues and glitches (some of which are reportedly being patched) I'm having a lot of fun with it.
I don't know why people said the special weapons are shit. They're a lot more useful than in most MM games, and because of how Xel works, you can use them without worrying too much about ammo.
>>342294738
Where were the Chocobos? Moogles? Magic? Fantastic non-human species? Everything else that appears in every game no matter how self-contained the game is? Shit, if the movie wasn't called Final Fantasy you'd think it was some sci-fi/fantasy movie about man-eating ghosts from space.
>>342294678
>voice chat
Opinion discarded.
I'm honestly hoping that the introduction will get subbed
>>342294471
Samus is confirmed and so are Metroids (even if only for one mission).
Same with Space Pirates.
>>342294867
He was very clearly referring to Other M, are you honestly this retarded?
>>342294927
>Chocobos? Moogles?
This do not define a Final Fantasy. They are common items but they do not determine what is a Final Fantasy.
>Magic
They could have had some science magic like Materia or Para-Magic, that's true.
>Fantastic non-human species?
The alien ghosts were definitely non-human. But there have been many games with completely human parties.
Still it's a better movie than Advent Children at least.
>>342294574
>>342294676
>>342295116
So they'll appear in one hastily-made mission at the very end to reassure you that you're playing a Metroid game?
No reason for the game to be this slow and ugly.
>>342295264
And Metroids only appeared in Taurian originally, the final (and very short) area of the original game.
>>342295209
That wasn't the last thing Metroid got though.
>are you honestly this retarded
No. You might want to look into your own mental health though.
>>342294949
I'm guessing handhelds' lack of tools appeal to your social anxiety disorders and that's why you love it when it's impossible to speak with your friends, cause you cannot bring up the "i have no mic" excuse.
That's a positive I've never considered. But it only applies to autists.
>>342281538
>Paper Mario fans calling Metroid fans salty
>playing the Wii U's shitty emulation of Virtual Console games.
>>342295538
>your social anxiety disorders
If you need to believe that then I feel sorry for you anon...
>>342291947
its been over 30 years since the last metroid game and this is what we get
>>342295554
>Paper Mario fans
>only Paper Mario fans play Paper Mario
Ok.
>>342293591
What the fuck happened to Miyamoto these last few years? He's a total hack who hasn't made a single good thing.
>>342295509
>guys, a little minigame in a crossover game is totally just like a full-on game!
Netx you're going to insist that Smash 4 is the most recent Metroid game.
>>342295820
>is totally just like a full-on game
Nobody said that anon...
literally what the fuck
>Game has chip like devices that give you specific boosts and abilities before a mission
Calling it now there will be one that makes you faster.
Why they wouldn't give the player a boost in speed without a chip is absolutely ludicrous
>>342289757
No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_GeoRC71BI
>>342295509
Oh boy a fan service little mini game = a full Metroid game! Based Nintendo making those awesome modern Metroid games!
>>342295956
What's with family-friendly shit looking so overly childish these days? Why does everything have to look like skylanders shit?
>>342296124
>a full Metroid game
Nobody said that anon.
>>342280040
A mech game set in the Metroid universe should be the sickest shit. Only Nintendo can take an idea that cool and turn it into cartoon astronauts rolling balls around.
>>342295956
not my image
>>342294294
>I don't know, the webms ITT look fine.
Like?
>>342281846 this is one of those bosses that have a problem where it's invincible for ages, you can only attack it very briefly and it'll take forever to kill. Look at how little damage they did from multiple charge beams and three people simultaneously shooting at the thing. It was chip damage.
>>342282342 shows enemies aren't really that aggressive nor do they pose much of a threat.
>>342282490 shows that we're going to be forced into stealth segments that will slow the game down even further.
>>342282678 is literally an escort mission.
>>342282815 just shows you can equip upgrades to make certain things better like missile damage and they're not exactly that hidden(In that bit it was just behind an ice wall which was the only thing in the room)
>>342282973 is legitimately the only decent looking thing, and it still looks really slow and not that enjoyable.
Nothing we've seen looks that fun in the slightest, it looks like absolute tedium more than anything else.
>>342295264
Space Pirates appear to be a recurring enemy in the game
>>342296382
>like?
>the Webms ITT
Are we in ESL time?
>>342295956
How they managed to make hunters look so good on a fucking DS of all things is baffling.
>>342296225
>3ds
>powerful
It's a piece of shit. Was dated at release and it sacrificed half its rendering power for the most useless gimmick I've ever used.
This game just needed to not be on 3DS period, chibishit or not.
It's 2016, we can't have one-analog shooters that are barely playable and watchable due to the low specs.
>>342296172
I was initially referring to Other M, That's a full Metroid game. You're the braindead retard who decided that a fucking mini-game was "the last thing Metroid got."
>>342285828
>we already had the original Metroid
and it wasn't incredible
Zero Mission is straight up fantastic
>>342296137
Nintendo knows manchildren will play games with child-friendly artstyles so they just stick to that. The designs are simple and probably a lot easier to come up with.
![fyFlk4V[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/LGLbN1r.png "fyFlk4V[2].png")
>>342296457
That's because it doesn't actually look that good, that is an emulator running on unlocked internal resolution.
Pic related.
>Deflecting the loss of Mighty No. 9 onto Federation Force
For shame.
>>342296448
Yes, my question is which of those webms looked good, and what parts of them looked good? You can't just go "They look good" and then not explain why. What about them is good? What parts "wow"'d you enough to consider buying it?
>>342296830
They're both dead carcasses
The v in /v/ stands for vulture
>>342296118
ya know, i really did enjoy this game. sure, it may have been repetitive and a little weird looking, but for being a DS Prime game, it ain't half bad
>>342296778
Damn
>>342296667
This argument doesn't work because even nintendo in the 90's had darker atmospheres for their family friendly shit.
It's just a general modern culture thing that anything family friendly now has to look like soulless neon-bright plastic toys no matter what.
Remember those bizarre and sometimes unsettling designs of Super Mario Land 1 and 2? Remember the strange eerie scary shit in SM64 and B&K? Remember Donkey Kong on the SNES? Mother series? Majora's Mask?
Everything is skylanders ultracute ultrabright plushies/toys designs with silly cutesy deformed exaggerated shapes now.
>>342296489
No one said anything about power anon. In any case there are several 3DS games that achieve the same things as this game without sacrificing anything so it's as clear as day that the 3DS can handle it regardless.
This is just the case of a rushed development cycle and uninspired visuals, even the Samus art looked kind of bad.
>Federation infantry armor changed
>The somewhat chibi/distorted style
>The entire art direction and styling
>Weapons are almost exact copies of Aran's beam weapons, which I don't remember being a thing
They could've made something like Battlefront, or maybe a combo of shooter with SWAT 4-styled tactics.
>Checking through space pirate base/frigate
>Operating operationally as future operators in space operations
>Finding equipment and systems that work with Aran's suit but not yours, if you want to ride on the whole thing of pirates making systems that work for her abilities
Heck, if they could turn Frigate Orpheon from Prime 1 into a whole thing with a squad of Federation troops boarding it and destroying the Hive Queen I'd be cool with that.
>>342296489
>This game just needed to not be on 3DS period, chibishit or not.
Then it would have had to have been put on hold even longer so it could be on the NX because Nintendo sure as shit isn't like a franchise like Metroid on the Wii U
And at that point you might as well just make Prime 4
>>342296778
>this is what handheld fags have to put up with
genuinely looks like a hd remake that was made thanks to 15 years of technology later.
>>342280040
>Is this the most JUST game in history?
Looks pretty dope, if it flops there will never be another metroid, if it succeeds there will never be more Samus outside of cameos and the tears will be delicious, it's a win-win.
>>342297226
Dude, have you ever played a Nintendo game?
The newest Kirby game even involved the death of someone's daughter.
And not to mention the "hell valley sky tree" thing in galaxy and odd ghosts in SM3DL.
The difference between now and then is that it's a lot more subtle and you have to make a second glance to believe what you saw.
>>342296990
federation force will probably be average but at least wont brick your 3ds like mighty no 9
>>342296489
Federation Force is just filler, calm down. The 3ds is on its way out, don't expect any more big budget games besides the newest Pokemon. Nintendo is just buying time until it happens.
>>342297226
>This argument doesn't work because even nintendo in the 90's had darker atmospheres for their family friendly shit.
This isn't the 90's anymore. I feel like kids in the 90's got that last taste of Gen X parenting.
Nowadays, as fedora as it sounds, we're living in an era where children are treated like they're made of glass. Kids don't play outside anymore because of panic culture. Characters in comic books can't smoke cigarettes anymore, even fucking Constantine didn't smoke in his show. People who legally qualify as adults can op out of reading certain books at the colleges they're paying for because the material might be too offensive.
I know this sounds like some paranoid red-pilled bullshit, but it's undeniably true. Kids nowadays are just being treated differently than we were 20 years ago.
>>342296619
And then the stealth section fucks it up. Hell you don't have full exploration of Zebes until you get your suit back. In the original the game was full open world from the start.
>>342293391
>Why would they release a main series Metroid on the soon to be replaced Wii U and 3DS?
Why are main Kirby and Pokémon still coming out?
>>342298339
I thought the whole stealth section was pretty cool. Should've been longer, I say.
Though not having access to areas until you get things from the end anyways was silly.
>>342298339
A stealth section that lasts all of 2 minutes.
>>342297343
Making the troopers Samus-lite is so boring and unimaginative.
>The gameplay revolves around customization of your Mech through sub weapons and chips that can be selected before a mission
>This was done to give each player a "role playing class" element
When they finally released the gameplay videos, I thought it looked pretty fun. Looks like a good co-op dungeon crawler.
>>342297659
You still can't say there's as many creepy designs.
>>342298110
And that's something that's painful to me.
And it's not just the childish stuff either. Everything in general tries hard to be more tame, streamlined and inoffensive for everyone. I feel that's limiting on each individual's own creativity.
Take the abe remaster, too. It's just slightly less dark. Take diablo 3. It replaces the dark with the palette of a fantasy painting.
>>342298110
Yep, kids are being treated as if they're complete and utter retards that can't differentiate real life from fiction. What they should really do is go hard on the stuff that would be bad if kids picked it up like smoking and make it look like a horribly bad thing instead of hiding it and making it seem like taboo. That route is only going to lead them to try it themselves.
I mean, kids are stupid but if you tell them something is bad then they'll stop doing it.
People don't like the Federation. They're the most boring part of the setting.
You'd think they'd use this opportunity to actually make them interesting but instead they're doubling down on the Buzz Lightyear shit that makes everyone hate them.
I don't understand.
>>342298690
Game's linear
>>342298718
>You still can't say there's as many creepy designs
Depends on what you define as creepy.
>>342297792
Can't wait for the 3DS to die off
I wish the NX will be both portable and home, so they have the entire nintendo library on one system and I'll just play everything in 1080p.
>>342298759
>People don't like the Federation.
How could you not like them in the Prime games?
The whole joint operation against space pirates was cool as hell.
>>342296778
Nigga I have hunters. I know what it looks like. It's still fucking georgeous for something that can run on the og DS.
>>342298759
If they were to ever make a game about the Federation there's only one man they should've used.Anthony Higgs
>>342298505
>>342298565
Yeah and as a whole it hurt the game and wasn't needed. Zero Mission to tell you the truth is the main reason we got Other M. At that point in time Sakamoto started to run out of ideas for the series so he just started rehashing and adding unnecessary gimmicks into Metroid. Say what you will about Metroid: Fusion but at least what it did was actually interesting and different and didn't too much like a rehash.
>>342295756
Pikmin 3 is great.
>>342298978
it was a fucking launch title too, or at least the demo was
>>342298759
>People don't like the Federation.
You say that but people were asking for a game like this for years.
Well not like this style and speed wise but the whole mission based fed gameplay.
>>342299002
No it didn't.
Metroid 2 did the whole survival horror gimmick way better than Fusion. It's plot was better too.
>>342296990
No dumbass it stands for vidya.
>>342297761
Unless you're an American I wouldn't say 6/10 would be average
>>342299002
But you have to admit, getting your powersuit back and having the theme play as you romp through the pirate base and blast everything away without a care was fucking awesome.
>>342299096
Metroid 2 wasn't survival horror it was extermination. You had to find all of the Metroids on planet SR-388 and wiped them out.
>>342299241
True
>>342299250
>health and ammo drops not nearly abundant enough, meaning you have to carefully manage resources
>dark and creepy atmosphere
>jump scares
It was a survival horror. "Extermination" isn't even a genre.
>>342299096
>Metroid 2
>survival horror
You what?
That was more of a collectathon tier of gameplay than anything else except instead of collecting you were killing to progress. Meanwhile Fusion set it up in a way that felt like you were being hunted and not just by the SA-X but the BOX security system, Nightmare and the X themselves.
Of course we know that these things were scripted to an extent now but it doesn't change the fact that Fusion had a better set up and tone especially when the Zero were gradually changing into Kihunters.
>>342299000
I don't remember him
>>342298749
>What they should really do is go hard on the stuff that would be bad if kids picked it up like smoking and make it look like a horribly bad thing instead of hiding it and making it seem like taboo
I agree with this. If anything the underexposure to things as common as cigarettes will only make them more curious.
>>342299090
That's why this game pisses me off because they took a good idea and fucked it up so badly that they'll never try it ever again.
I don't think people were imagining Samus-lite when they requested a Federation spin-off.
>>342299000
You know how this guy's plasma beam was way different than the one Samus had?
I can't believe I'm referring to something in Other M as a positive but that's what the mech weapons should have been like in this game.
I seriously would have preferred this to be an Other M spin-off because at least sweeping through a space station and fighting Metroid enemies with conventional weapons sounds kinda interesting.
>>342296216
>Wait a second--that looks like the spheres we've seen elswhere on Bion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PjeCuT-GWU
Prepare to see that a lot
>Give the game to Relic
>They convert the skins and locations to be warhammer-related
>We get a portable Space-Hulk game
It'd be perfect
>>342299000
I wanted to punch that commander guy in Other M. I have never seen a more smarmy douchebag of a military leader.
I can't even tell what part in the timeline Other M is supposed to be. Is it directly after Fusion? After the Primes? Cause if after Prime then she shouldn't give a single fuck about that asshole with everything she's done in the Prime series.
>>342299802
>That's why this game pisses me off because they took a good idea and fucked it up so badly that they'll never try it ever again.
Fucking this.
Imagine some Star Wars: Republic Commando shit. Or some F.E.A.R. shit. We could've gotten something cool like that, with a more action-adventure focus.
But nope, weird generic chibi shooter game that's slow as hell.
>>342299727
That's exactly what happens. Look at the abstinance-only stance regarding sex, all they do is act like sex doesn't exist and never tell the kids, who then learn it from less-than-good sources and because they don't know about diseases and pregnancy and contraception they end up fucking themselves over. The states with AO policies have the highest teen pregnancy, STD, and abortion rates in the country, eyt they refuse to change it because they think Jesus will magically beam everything the kids need to know into their brains and the kids won't have minds and wills of their own.
>>342298847
Here's one random comparison from a direct remake, but I could list ton of stuff from SML1/2 alone.
>background's color has been brightened up
>dinosaur's color has been made more welcoming, less deep/pungent of a blue, more child-friendly pastel
>goofy looking eyes with a visor, le happy swimming cute dinosaur :^)! Happy thoughts everywhere, he's cute
In 64:
>you get to an overall more atmospheric drop down in that lake
>everything is darker
>the dinosaur is very creepy because its face shows no emotion and does not interact with you in the first place
The creepy Easton Kingdom statues in the background of SML1 are generally replaced by goofy angry-but-in-a-cute-way humanized stones in 3DW.
The mimic piano in 64. The mecha-shark level of banjo with that super uneasy rusty palette. I could go on for hours across several titles.
>>342300005
Right before Fusion
>>342299571
>now
We've known Fusion is scripted since release. And there's absolutely no sense of urgency at all in Fusion, the game shoves endless amounts of X parasites at you, so you're only ever in danger of actually dying against a handful of bosses.
Furthermore, it's tone and pacing were ruined by being brought to a halt every 5 minutes by the dialogue and exposition.
>>342298621
Do you have a source on that clip Anon?
As for Feddie Force I'd be happier with a hamster tube Space Pirate tunnel base builder like Fallout Shelter meets Mario Maker.
Of course the Hunter would make an appearance to ruin all your hard work each level but if you made it to the escape pod your mad schemes would start anew from any resewarch points you accumulated.
>>342300005
MOM is set between Super and Fusion.
It also ignores and retcons every other game in the franchise so that Sakamoto could tell his version of the Metroid story and what Samus Aran is truly like.
>>342299090
>Well not like this style and speed
Not gonna play a game if the idea is correct but the execution makes it unfun, of course.
>>342300057
Exactly. Trying to shove a topic as unavoidable as sex under the rug nowadays is astronomically retarded because kids can pull out their phones and iPads and learn a maligned perspective about sex through porn.
>>342299551
Survival Horror where, you can get health and missiles more easier than you could in the first game, all you did in the game was collect Samus's items to make her stronger and then killed all of the Metroids in the area to lower the lava within the caverns. I will give you that the game was atmospheric like all mainline games though. Fusion made you weaker and for most the game you had to hide from your heartless twin tried to fry you.
>>342300251
Didn't say you had to, just that people were asking for something similar.
>>342300172
>Do you have a source on that clip Anon?
Short Peace: A Farewell to Weapons
>>342300115
Forgot pic
>7 years
nigga what? the developer was working on luigi's mansion 2 from 2010 to 2013
>>342300172
>i will never draw cool shit like this
Why live ;_;
>>342300613
To see cool shit?
>>342300143
>We've known Fusion is scripted since release.
It was 2002, very few people knew it was scripted and it doesn't change the fact that Fusion set the survival horror tone extremely well especially when the SA-X was chasing you after you restore back up power to the station. Oh and when the Zoro's are visibly changing into Kihunters.
> the game shoves endless amounts of X parasites at you
Considerably less than Metroid 2 mind you, there's also the fact that the X can also spawn new enemies if you don't collect them.
>so you're only ever in danger of actually dying against a handful of bosses.
That applies to nearly every game anon. Anyway, adding the previous spawning of enemies situation into account there's a lot more danger than 2.
>it's tone and pacing were ruined by being brought to a halt every 5 minutes by the dialogue and exposition.
Did you even play Fusion?
You only experience dialogue at nav rooms and that only happens when you've cleared your objective in the area and a select few elevators, the cutscenes weren't as frequent as you think they are.
>>342300482
multiple teams you dumb fuck
do you think artists, writers and musicians spend the last 6 months of development working on bugfixes?
>>342286448
PAULDRONS
>>342298908
They're space marines. It's the most boring and generic concept you can add to a scifi FPS.
Happy 30th anniversary
>>342299918
This looks legitimately awful.
>That minute long ball rolling segment to hit the boss once.
>Have to keep rolling them up small ramps to hit the boss while your friends just wander in circles.
>>342300445
>>342300115
You know that's a case of better textures and finally being able to implement the real design right?
It wasn't made to be creepy.
Also you have the thinnest skin I've ever seen if you think that's creepy.
>The mimic piano in 64
Still in the DS version.
>star fox dead
>metroid dead
>paper mario dead
>>342301051
Dude, there's only one team with those guys.
In any case the actual game wasn't in development for 7 years, the IDEA was conceptualized 7 years ago however.
>>342300115
Are there still people that go on about that fucking dinosaur?
It wasn't meant to be creepy, dingus. Even now you can tell that any "creepiness" was entirely the result of unintentional things that resulted from the weakness of the hardware and it being an early attempt at 3D for Nintendo.
You could at least point to something that was actually toned down, like Dead Hand in the 3DS remake.
>>342301041
>It was 2002, very few people knew it was scripted
Stop bullshitting. You can tell it's scripted on your 2nd playthrough at the absolute earliest.
>Considerably less than Metroid 2 mind you, there's also the fact that the X can also spawn new enemies if you don't collect them.
Metroid 2 enemies barely drop jack shit you retard. Metroids themselves are the only ones that give guaranteed drops, and not nearly enough to make back what it took to kill them. So you're pretty much relying on missile stations, which are few and far between.
>That applies to nearly every game anon. Anyway, adding the previous spawning of enemies situation into account there's a lot more danger than 2.
But its especially a problem in Fusion, because unlike in other games, every single enemy will give you 100% guaranteed drops, that give asstons of health/missiles. Most bosses even start giving out X parasites while you're fighting them.
>You only experience dialogue at nav rooms and that only happens when you've cleared your objective in the area and a select few elevators,
And it ends up being about every 5 minutes. Just because you were a retarded kid that took 20 minutes to figure out how to press A or something doesn't mean all of us were.
>>342300115
I'm not him, but the dinosaur in 64 was NOWHERE to be creppy, even when I was a kid. The dino was just generic, while in DS remake, they atleast tried to make it a bit unique.
You're not THAT guy who pushes his cherrypicked opinion on 64 DS being bad, just because some of the art direction is different, are you?
>>342281151
Reminder you would all love it if it had this art style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPuGojluVisI really wish it had the prime art style, it would have been like metroid meets starship troopers and not some kiddie looking android shit
>Federation Force is so bad people at Next Level Games are jumping ship
https://twitter.com/nextlevelgames
>>342301998
The problems lie in more than just the artstyle Anon
You don't make co-op shooters this slow pace and have set pieces this uninspired
>>342290797
Prime isn't bad, it's terrible.
>>342302097
If only they had stuck to sports games.
Punch-Out was easily one of my top 5 games last gen.
>>342302097
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>>342302097
>their robot mascot is cooler and more interesting than the robots you actually play as in their game
seriously what the fuck is going on here
>>342302352
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>>342301759
>You can tell it's scripted on your 2nd playthrough at the absolute earliest.
>2nd playthrough
Why do you think this matters to the conversation?
Of course second playthroughs remove the magic, again that applies to every game.
>Metroid 2 enemies barely drop jack shit you retard.
I take it you haven't played the game in a while, health drops are everywhere to compensate for the bad controls.
It's incredibly easy to grind your shit back up with no issue.
>that give asstons of health/missiles
Hyperbole aside, yes they do appear every time but there's also the added movement and respawning ability that you so conveniently ignored.
>Most bosses even start giving out X parasites while you're fighting them.
Did it ever occur to you that it's because there's a massive core X that either fires at you whenever you inflict damage or rams you for a considerable amount of damage when you try to collect the health that's flying around the screen? Even then you only spawn them in specific ways and they don't restore too much health.
>And it ends up being about every 5 minutes.
Unless you're playing on an emulator at 5x speed no it's not.
>>342302424
The mechs were designed by Retro Studios
https://mynintendonews.com/2015/08/05/retro-studios-designed-the-mechs-in-metroid-prime-federation-force/
>>342302278
IIRC they said that they had ideas for a new Punch-Out!!
Would've been cool to see that on the NX but after this they're most likely fucked like NST
>>342302550
Delete this. Retro can do no wrong
>>342291947
Just Metroid babbies being Metroid babbies.
>>342302717
They're initial ideas since Prime 3 were interesting but I guess compromise had to be made for the 3DS
>>342285146
Fuck you, im an Fzero fan and my balls went blue because no fucking news about the franchise during the last century
Eh, I'm still going to give the game a shot.
If I don't like it I can easily return it on a pretext.
>>342302550
yeah i know
they're fucking terrible designs
like i seriously can't believe that's the robot design they went with
>>342302883
How do you feel about that rejected pitch NoE gave to Criterion?
>>342285146
DELETE THIS
>>342303131
We all know you're a liar Todd
>>342280040
>Revelead, everyone literally hated it
when it was revealed as blastball people liked it
>>342303272
No Anon people thought Blast Ball was a boring e shop game and there were people who just flat out stopped watching until it was over
>>342302883
>wanting a new F-Zero after MK8
Nintendo can't make physics engines for shit now, a new F-Zero would literally be a polygonal version of the original, with some garbage control idea Miyamoto thought of while driving an electric car or some shit.
>>342302920
Didn't the Prime artists leave Retro?
Maybe that's why
>>342303272
Most I heard about Blast Ball was "this looks kind of boring", "this better be a cheap eshop thing", and "this kind of reminds me of Metroid, but if Metroid were a slow soccer game"
>>342303407
What does MK8 have to do with anything?
>>342281151
it looks kinda slow but i'd still play it with my friends
>>342302549
>Why do you think this matters to the conversation?
Because you claimed it was a relatively recent thing that we figured out Fusion was scripted. And just like pretty much everything else you post, it was bullshit.
>I take it you haven't played the game in a while, health drops are everywhere to compensate for the bad controls. It's incredibly easy to grind your shit back up with no issue.
Sounds more like you haven't played the game at all. Enemies don't drop anything at least 50% of the time. And each enemy type only has a specific drop. Missile enemies are much rarer than health ones.
>added movement and respawning ability
These are complete nonsense. The pick-up range for X is big enough that it's never a problem at all, and the respawning doesn't matter because the enemies do no damage and you can kill them instantly.
>Even then you only spawn them in specific ways and they don't restore too much health.
Doesn't change the fact that they still spawn them, and they heal enough so that you're not in danger of actually dying.
>Unless you're playing on an emulator at 5x speed no it's not.
Unless you're a braindead idiot playing with one hand, than yeah, it is.
>>342303272
People thought Blast Ball was just going to be an eShop game at the Nintendo Championships and that was just the way they were showing it off. Then they added the "Metroid" title to it and the rest is history.
If Federation Force was a $10 game for the eShop I wouldn't mind since it's an eShop spinoff and we can take it at face value for that. But since it's a $40 game and Blast Ball is part of it I don't want anything to do with it.
>>342301759
>You can tell it's scripted on your 2nd playthrough at the absolute earliest.
I could tell on the first playthrough. The fact that the SAX rooms look nothing like the surrounding rooms and were clearly designed just for the SAX gave it away pretty damn fast.
